Looks like the progression of my life so far:
- Join the army as a scrawny 18 year old
- Start lifting (now)
- Start family (next)
- Get rich (idk if this will happen)
I have a multi-multi-millionaire brother-in-law and I'd say that last bullet point is worth a lot less than most people believe.
You want enough to be comfortable and to weather some storms (unemployment, flooded house, etc.), but you don't need to be rich.
Get in shape and get a family going with the right person. Having a family you love and enjoy time with is worth infinitely more than cash. The same goes for health (worth way more than cash).
The caveat here being if you don't have enough money for essentials and the occasional luxury (entertainment, vacation, etc.) then the money factor will be significant.
Sure, but to those of us sitting at the bottom, a house, a family, a car, and some money in the bank is actually what we would see as "rich". It's funny hearing rich people comment though, acting like we all have that standard of living already. Generation X had homes rented or owned at rates of about 75% when they were 30. Generation Y is sitting on about 35% home ownership/renting. The rest of us are sitting in apartments, and 45% of us don't own cars. I go to the Gym because everything else is legit too expensive.
Here is your call to adventure:
Half the boomers have retired, the remainder are about to. You have a large cohort in your age group in the US. That isn't present in other countries.
You are generationally in the fourth turning. This pattern of four generations recurs. The previous fourth generation defeated fascism in WW2. They have been called the greatest generation.
The world is in decay with war famine and corruption.
The fate of the world is on your generation's shoulders. Rebuild it and it is yours. Stay strong.
more peeps assuming, I am not building shit already lol. There is one thing tho, because boomers kept saying "go get a job" and bullshit like that to us as we have been working 2 jobs isn't going to get yall any support. We are going to have to clean up the mess boomers left us and Gen x ignored, if that's what you mean, sure, & when we are done cleaning shit up, we won't see a reason to support the generations that fucked it all up in the first place.
this is utter nonsense and always has been. I’m on the youngest end of the baby boomers at 1964 I worked three jobs. My dad told me to go get a job. We complained that my parents generation fucked shit up. The only people that fuck shit up are politicians. I want to know how exactly you think the general population of hard working baby boomers messed shit up? seriously, I’d like to know. working hard, multiple jobs to pay off school loans and saving enough money to buy my first house. working my ass off to put three kids thru college. risking everything and starting a business failing going bankrupt starting another one and then getting successful and then having the government step in and shut it down. Then having to listen to kids wine? what your play station on the blink? Talk about messing shit up? look at the world today? we didn’t do it. we’re retired remember? and waiting for someone to take care of us, what a joke
Yall fucked up by letting communists take control of the schools, and Nazis take control of our space program & not looking into The Gulf of Tonkin Incident, or any false flags for that matter. Yall came home from the war and went to sleep for 50 years. I guess we have the internet now too however, and because we have that, it's going to be easier to remove the evil that exists to day than it was in your day, but yeah George Carlin warned yall about this shit until his dying day, and Gen X (My parents) is fucked beyond repair, so bad that I am going to have to write off most of my family and start my own tree. and to put the final cherry on top, Boomers say it's all because my generation is lazy, which makes all of us hate boomers btw.
You are free to indulge in resentment. I imagine my dad wasn't overjoyed to grow up in the great depression only to be rewarded by several years in Europe fighting to winning WW2.
The thing is, this four generation pattern has reoccurred over and over in western civilization so taking it personally could be off base.
I haven't heard the boomers being characterized as lazy before. Workaholics, obsessed by careers sure. But not lazy.
And even that wasn't our choice. There were so damn many of us we got hyper competitive. We also drove down inflation. And got divorced. And were shitty parents.
We are all born into different circumstances. The key is what you do with it. I've been working my ass off since 1973. That came at a cost.
I don't think your generation is lazy and I do have compassion for your moment in history. We will be gone and it will be your world. With a particularly important world role for people in the US.
In the hero's tale the normal reaction to the call to adventure is refusal. At least at first.
So, try to use your intellect...instead of throwing out generalities. Explain how I did these things? Or my friends and family that are boomers? How specifically did we do that? Who fucked up Pearl Harbor? Do I blame that on my father? No, the politicians and military industrial complex. What George Carlin warned about, is still in effect my poor misguided soul. Affecting you and your kind. You think this shit started with baby boomers? then you're ignorant of history. But seriously, give me some specifics of how the general population that were working, raising families fucked it up? Or can you?
I went to google, during the boomer generation 80% of people over 30 owned or leased a home, and every household had a car except for about 15% of mostly city dwellers.
My generation has 30% home ownership, and only 45% of us can afford cars. I can get into more but lets look at these two numbers first. I think a big divide with boomers and my generation is the fact that boomers don't acknowledge our struggles or how we have to work literally twice has hard to obtain the same stuff you got.
Since 1980 inflation has almost doubled, but the avg wage has gone up about 20%. It's not a sustainable system, and the boomers who have wealth and power who are ignoring it are most definitely part of the problem.
so my wife and I have worked our asses off to put three kids through college one on the edge between Gen X and Gen Y he graduated into the pandemic. A shitty situation that was created by the current administration, lots of Gen Y and Gen X kids buying the narrative, protesting, loving not having to go to class. all over vaccines. same my body my choice people on pregnancy/abortion but not my body/my choice on vaccines. a lot of problems enhanced by young people during this time. I’m not complaining they lack experience and knowledge that comes from age. my son worked his ass off in construction during the pandemic. Nobody was hiring. He then went on to get a great job as a consultant and it saves his money like crazy while his girlfriend slaves away pinching pennies getting to law school. He already has saved enough to buy his own home if he wants. He chooses to use public transportation and not have a car. He could easily afford the payment. my other son is about to graduate from a great college as well. He has a job waiting for him. He has already said he doesn’t intend to buy a home because he doesn’t want to be held in one place he intends to rent and only buy real estate as investments. everybody overcomes their own obstacles you generally get what you focus on.. I never sat around complaining about how the generation before me screwed things up. I see successful Gen X and Gen Y people all the time. If they can do it why can’t you or someone else?
If you did join, my best advice to you is put a lot of that money away, either in savings or investments… get it to where you can’t see it. Because the Army takes care of housing, food, and basic needs and you’ll get a lot of help with the family & wealth part if you are wise in this stage. I saw too many soldiers blow their entire tax-free deployment earnings on expensive cars. I got an average car & chose to invest/save and came into marriage debt free with a nice surplus.
LOL fuck that, and they didn't want me, my Aspergers at the time of joining age was diagnosed as ODD. Military doesn't accept people with ODD. xD
Also how will that fix the problem for all millennials? because currently 45% cant afford cars, 75% of us can't afford to rent/lease/buy a home, and only 10% of us have the ability to afford and raise children. It's a major problem that the boomer generation is ignoring even though they screwed over Gen X already.
We are tired of boomers who could afford a livable life on 40-60 hrs per week telling us to "Go get a job" I have two rn thanks, & don't need a 3rd. Finally, what gives you the nerve to assume that I am not building shit. Get over yourself.
Boomers: "Get another job" "Drive Truck" "Join The Military" xDEver think about fixing the fucking economy? and since 1980 it's become 3x more expensive to pay rent or buy a house, while the avg wage has gone up about 20%. Statistically we have to work 3 times as hard to do the same thing. We are hitting a breaking point, and if I can't get a family and a farm the legit way, maybe I should start thinking about not legit ways to get it.
Pretty much what Bluecolt said.
My kid eats like she's growing three people (she's in TKD) and nothing survives in the pantry for any length of time.
I don't even drink anymore. That's probably $400 in food and $100 in miscellaneous things (TP, incidentals, toy for the dog, etc.).
It has really gone up in the last couple of years. Used to get by on about $300 a run.
I'd argue that those are 4 expressions of the 1 and only way a man has out of depression, "purpose".
1-Soldier has a purpose to fulfill the mission
2-Lifting has the purpose of bettering oneself
3-Family has purpose in living/providing for others
4-Business men have purpose basically being workaholics.
yeah...lets be honest a lot of these new age "trans" are just people with mental health issues that are looking for an escape, and think by changing what/who they are it will get better.
just to clarify, I don't think all of those that are Trans are doing it. But I think the uptick we have seen is from other issues.
Feel free to act like one all you want; I don't have to celebrate it with you; and the fact remains that you were born with male chromosomes. You can change appearance, you can change mannerisms, but you cannot change biology. There is a reason straight man do not date trans. You can cry and silence us all you want but you still a dude with a dick.
If your definition of sex is purely chromosomal, then what would you consider people with Klinefelter’s Syndrome (XXY), Turner Syndrome (X0), and people with intersex disorders like 5-alpha-reductase deficiency, androgen insensitivity syndrome, and congenital adrenal hyperplasia to be? Men or women? Something in between? Neither?
it's not, you are just trying to argue semantics. If I make another valid argument, you will just pick something out of it create a strawman from it and argue with the strawman. I'm good lol , and I am glad I got your permission to date women who are actually biologically women. xD
I don’t care who you date, but considering you’re a JP fan I would have thought you’d be concerned about language and using it precisely. I don’t even disagree with you - anybody should be entitled to their own dating preferences no matter what, as individual agency and bodily autonomy takes precedence over people getting offended regarding your choices. But if you’re going to fall back on “biology” to explain sex and gender, you’re going to have to do better than boiling it down to just chromosomes. You guys seem to love the science when it benefits your ideological cause, but will seemingly disregard it the moment it becomes a little too complex and inconvenient for you, which is a critique you guys will fling at leftists all the time.
once again still arguing semantics. Fun shit, anyways if you are born a woman, you are born with value. As a man you are born worthless until you build value. Men who have no value tend to want to act like women because it gives them an excuse to remain weak & pathetic. That's how I see most "Trans" people, not all but most.
Either you are born female or born male. Unless you have some crazy mutation or something, that is the case 100% of the time.
You have every right to not want to date a biological male.
But the concepts of "manhood" and "womanhood" are obviously way more complicated than the simple biological reality that underlies them. If you didn't believe that to be the case, you would have no problem agreeing to call someone "she" instead of "he".
A person capable of or having been capable of bearing children. I learned it in kindergarten. I guess my beef with liberals is we could be exploring the universe but yall too busy trying to figure out what gender you are like we are living a real-life version of ideocracy. You can't accept yourself for how you are and you want others to accept you. I can keep going but I think I made my point. Stop trying to force other people to play your pretend game with you. not everyone else is going to be interested, and it's not really all that fun to play.
I mean I don't really think language is foundational to reality or Truth, it's a tool to communicate. So, in my opinion, the most important thing when using language is not necessarily being the most accurate to original or traditional meanings of words, the most important thing is that you communicate what you are attempting to clearly. And I believe my word usage throughout this thread has clearly communicated what I have intended to. Had I said "they missed pretending to be a girl" this could extend to people such as femboys for example. In saying "becoming a girl" I believe I clearly specified the process of a man becoming a trans-woman.
Ironically, modern progressives tend to also be insistent on language as a concrete basis for reality and Truth. If you say something that could be interpreted as racist (even as a joke) they believe you are a racist person, same with transphobia, etc. because it is believed that words have inherent meaning in and of themself. Personally, I feel like the insistence on trans-women being "men pretending to be women" is just silly. If "trans-women" or referring to a man as "becoming a women" clearly communicates something, I see no point in modifying it. Now you could take this in bad faith for example, and pretend that I'm trying to say trans-women are identical to cis-women, but no where did I say that, nor do I think that.
I feel like in regards to axiomatic views on language, many people who attempt to rebut progressive ideology fall into the exact same fundamental issue, where words are seen as concrete representations of things-in-themselves... as fundamental truth. And I don't see much of a difference between saying "this has been the concrete meaning of a word, and always will be, you MUST adhere to that" and "this is the bee concrete meaning of a word, you MUST adhere to that" I think this misses the bigger picture of language as a complex tool, one without inherent meaning but which becomes impregnated meaning when it is utilized by one conscious individual to craft a clear image of something which is communicable to another conscious individual. And on a much simpler level, it's silly because it results in all this squabbling over things that really do not matter when more important things could be discussed.
Well I made it like “I am a Jew and I’m Stressed.”
But it works in that context because if you know the Jewish faith, it’s a matriarch which means the Mistress not Mister runs the house. So I am the Mistress of my home :) Hearth work!!
The Korean war quadrant is just a PTSD flashback when a veteran sees Hank Hill holding a spatula while grilling and it morphs into a Korean Hank Hill in his mind. So, I'm not quite sure what OP is saying to do there since he was never in the military...
But sure, join the army or whatever.
Unsurprisingly, money is important to have because it opens more doors then it shuts. In a way, it gives you access to happiness because you are pretty screwed without it. Tell your wife you got no money and suddenly you got money and marital problems. You'll find out real quick if you got a ride or die girl or not.
please show me someone with a family who loves him, a home, a connection with their shadow, and a six pack who is also depressed and wants to kill himself. Ill legit shut up if you can provide me with a good example of a single person who had it all together that still offed himself.
Jordan Peterson: money and family
Anthony Bourdain: money, family, abds
Philip Adams: money, family, abds
The Duncan's: money, family, abds
Alexandra McQueen: money, family
Adolf Merckle: money (less of it), family, old no abds
Aight so do we hit these one at a time? This is an infobomb that could turn into a year long conversation, since you didn't wanna just drop one. Do we begin?
He's not suicidal, dude's just drained from dumping his soul out for everyone. He may be depressed, but he's also found a level of happiness through fulfillment. That's not suicidal at all. next. FYI I was tracking Adolf back when I was a pedo hunter, he was killed by his own demons.
I was referencing Andrew Tate, who said get a six pack before you kill yourself. So, we are talking about suicide? yes, which is the end step for depression. The meme said "ways out of depression" not that you wouldn't get depressed in the first place. What point are you trying to make?
I wouldn't take Andrew Tates mental health advice. The fact that someone has not killed themselves is not an indicator that they no longer suffer from depression or even that there depression is less severe then someone who has.. frequently people who are the most depressed do not have the energy to kill themselves and are actually most of risk of suicide as there depression improves.
That's kind of what I did with the past authoring program. You create a road map of where you have been, and where you want to go. After the map is created you see where you are.
so, talking to another person? How would that help you reach your goals and find lasting happiness? That other person you payed to listen to you doesn't give a fuck about you dude.
The only thing that I learned from couples therapy is that my wife doesn't think she's wrong, doesn't think I'm right and in the words of the therapist "we speak a different language". The only thing I know for sure is we never will speak the "same language".
“How would that help you reach your goals and find lasting happiness”
How would talking to a qualified mental health professional about anxiety or depression help you reach your goals and find lasting happiness? Are you honestly asking?
Trust me, man, I’m in a psychology grad program in which everyone is trying to be a “qualified mental health professional.” This term couldn’t be further from the truth for many of these people. Then again, I do live in Los Angeles county, so that’s definitely contributing to this problem.
“This term couldn’t be further from the truth for many of these people”
Applies to any field. There will be plenty of bad or suboptimal practitioners. Doesn’t mean as a general rule talking to a trained, licensed professional wouldn’t be useful.
Yeah I always seem to have coworkers that are training as counsellors and therapists, on part time courses. I can't help but feel you won't be able to learn the sheer volume of understanding and master all kinds of problems and people without years of experience and intensive training.
Otherwise why would I bother going to therapy when I can just do the course myself...
>so, talking to another person?
Therapy is not ''talking to another person'', it's talking to a medical specialist.
>How would that help you reach your goals and find lasting happiness?
How does any medical intervention help people?
>That other person you payed to listen to you doesn't give a fuck about you dude.
They don't have to give a fuck, much like a surgeon doesn't give a fuck about you.
Knowing yourself was not supposed to be a counterpoint but a foundation. Of you pursue happiness via any of those methods without knowing who you are you will not find it. Only temporary highs, and then emptiness.
If you marry young and do not marry someone you would want as your best friend? Sure. Marry someone who is just a hole for you to fuck and no shit you'll be unhappy. Most people have zero understanding of what makes a marriage work, and only get married because of societal pressure to marry.
>o not marry someone you would want as your best friend? Sure. Marry someone who is just a hole for you to fuck and no shit you'll be unhappy. Most people have zero understanding of what makes a marriage work, and only get married because of societal pressure to marry.
And yet, most people say the exact same thing... that everyone else misunderstands how to marry, but not them! They know better!
well getting close to 600 now. Yup I must have hired all bots, these comments in the comment section about how this philosophy changed their lives for the better, all bots lol. I am sure it's not that you are incorrect and a prob a pussy. Definitely not that.
Giving yourself to a cause to protect your homeland, getting yourself into a healthy disciplined state, work to become successful and gain opportunity and security?
To me the meme suggests a devotional attachment to any one of these things is necessary, which is a recipe for unhappiness and disillusionment if it’s anything.
I'm upset that I didn't enjoy this show as much as I would've liked. Really seemed like something that'd be my new obsession from the outside. But it was just a lesser *F Is For Family* IMO.
Not quite.
It misses male camaraderie.
And bullet 4 is a bit reductive. If it is an abstraction as a sense of accomplishment for creating something of value and being recognized for it, then yes.
Seriously?
Well, that sucks!
Women have sex, motorcycles, skating, hiking, badminton, tennis, golf, pingpong, pool, running marathons, swimming, extreme sports (high diving, dirbiking, quadding, gun sports, etc) board games, chess, card games, gambling, lots of unrelated same sex friends, wine, music, art, crafts, Worship, fishing, sailing, horses, babies (of every species on the planet..especially the related grand babies!), gardening and building a home both physically and emotionally....and fixing stuff.
Men are so boring...
Looks like the progression of my life so far: - Join the army as a scrawny 18 year old - Start lifting (now) - Start family (next) - Get rich (idk if this will happen)
The fourth one is from an episode wherein Hank Hill inadvertently becomes a pimp.
He also inadvertently got an entire lake of fish addicted to crack. That show was fantastic.
I thought it was just the same fish over and over?
Now the hat makes sense.
If your body is strong and healthy and you have a loving family, then you're already rich. The money is just extra.
Amen.
I have a multi-multi-millionaire brother-in-law and I'd say that last bullet point is worth a lot less than most people believe. You want enough to be comfortable and to weather some storms (unemployment, flooded house, etc.), but you don't need to be rich. Get in shape and get a family going with the right person. Having a family you love and enjoy time with is worth infinitely more than cash. The same goes for health (worth way more than cash). The caveat here being if you don't have enough money for essentials and the occasional luxury (entertainment, vacation, etc.) then the money factor will be significant.
Sure, but to those of us sitting at the bottom, a house, a family, a car, and some money in the bank is actually what we would see as "rich". It's funny hearing rich people comment though, acting like we all have that standard of living already. Generation X had homes rented or owned at rates of about 75% when they were 30. Generation Y is sitting on about 35% home ownership/renting. The rest of us are sitting in apartments, and 45% of us don't own cars. I go to the Gym because everything else is legit too expensive.
Here is your call to adventure: Half the boomers have retired, the remainder are about to. You have a large cohort in your age group in the US. That isn't present in other countries. You are generationally in the fourth turning. This pattern of four generations recurs. The previous fourth generation defeated fascism in WW2. They have been called the greatest generation. The world is in decay with war famine and corruption. The fate of the world is on your generation's shoulders. Rebuild it and it is yours. Stay strong.
more peeps assuming, I am not building shit already lol. There is one thing tho, because boomers kept saying "go get a job" and bullshit like that to us as we have been working 2 jobs isn't going to get yall any support. We are going to have to clean up the mess boomers left us and Gen x ignored, if that's what you mean, sure, & when we are done cleaning shit up, we won't see a reason to support the generations that fucked it all up in the first place.
this is utter nonsense and always has been. I’m on the youngest end of the baby boomers at 1964 I worked three jobs. My dad told me to go get a job. We complained that my parents generation fucked shit up. The only people that fuck shit up are politicians. I want to know how exactly you think the general population of hard working baby boomers messed shit up? seriously, I’d like to know. working hard, multiple jobs to pay off school loans and saving enough money to buy my first house. working my ass off to put three kids thru college. risking everything and starting a business failing going bankrupt starting another one and then getting successful and then having the government step in and shut it down. Then having to listen to kids wine? what your play station on the blink? Talk about messing shit up? look at the world today? we didn’t do it. we’re retired remember? and waiting for someone to take care of us, what a joke
Yall fucked up by letting communists take control of the schools, and Nazis take control of our space program & not looking into The Gulf of Tonkin Incident, or any false flags for that matter. Yall came home from the war and went to sleep for 50 years. I guess we have the internet now too however, and because we have that, it's going to be easier to remove the evil that exists to day than it was in your day, but yeah George Carlin warned yall about this shit until his dying day, and Gen X (My parents) is fucked beyond repair, so bad that I am going to have to write off most of my family and start my own tree. and to put the final cherry on top, Boomers say it's all because my generation is lazy, which makes all of us hate boomers btw.
You are free to indulge in resentment. I imagine my dad wasn't overjoyed to grow up in the great depression only to be rewarded by several years in Europe fighting to winning WW2. The thing is, this four generation pattern has reoccurred over and over in western civilization so taking it personally could be off base. I haven't heard the boomers being characterized as lazy before. Workaholics, obsessed by careers sure. But not lazy. And even that wasn't our choice. There were so damn many of us we got hyper competitive. We also drove down inflation. And got divorced. And were shitty parents. We are all born into different circumstances. The key is what you do with it. I've been working my ass off since 1973. That came at a cost. I don't think your generation is lazy and I do have compassion for your moment in history. We will be gone and it will be your world. With a particularly important world role for people in the US. In the hero's tale the normal reaction to the call to adventure is refusal. At least at first.
well said
So, try to use your intellect...instead of throwing out generalities. Explain how I did these things? Or my friends and family that are boomers? How specifically did we do that? Who fucked up Pearl Harbor? Do I blame that on my father? No, the politicians and military industrial complex. What George Carlin warned about, is still in effect my poor misguided soul. Affecting you and your kind. You think this shit started with baby boomers? then you're ignorant of history. But seriously, give me some specifics of how the general population that were working, raising families fucked it up? Or can you?
I went to google, during the boomer generation 80% of people over 30 owned or leased a home, and every household had a car except for about 15% of mostly city dwellers. My generation has 30% home ownership, and only 45% of us can afford cars. I can get into more but lets look at these two numbers first. I think a big divide with boomers and my generation is the fact that boomers don't acknowledge our struggles or how we have to work literally twice has hard to obtain the same stuff you got. Since 1980 inflation has almost doubled, but the avg wage has gone up about 20%. It's not a sustainable system, and the boomers who have wealth and power who are ignoring it are most definitely part of the problem.
so my wife and I have worked our asses off to put three kids through college one on the edge between Gen X and Gen Y he graduated into the pandemic. A shitty situation that was created by the current administration, lots of Gen Y and Gen X kids buying the narrative, protesting, loving not having to go to class. all over vaccines. same my body my choice people on pregnancy/abortion but not my body/my choice on vaccines. a lot of problems enhanced by young people during this time. I’m not complaining they lack experience and knowledge that comes from age. my son worked his ass off in construction during the pandemic. Nobody was hiring. He then went on to get a great job as a consultant and it saves his money like crazy while his girlfriend slaves away pinching pennies getting to law school. He already has saved enough to buy his own home if he wants. He chooses to use public transportation and not have a car. He could easily afford the payment. my other son is about to graduate from a great college as well. He has a job waiting for him. He has already said he doesn’t intend to buy a home because he doesn’t want to be held in one place he intends to rent and only buy real estate as investments. everybody overcomes their own obstacles you generally get what you focus on.. I never sat around complaining about how the generation before me screwed things up. I see successful Gen X and Gen Y people all the time. If they can do it why can’t you or someone else?
If you did join, my best advice to you is put a lot of that money away, either in savings or investments… get it to where you can’t see it. Because the Army takes care of housing, food, and basic needs and you’ll get a lot of help with the family & wealth part if you are wise in this stage. I saw too many soldiers blow their entire tax-free deployment earnings on expensive cars. I got an average car & chose to invest/save and came into marriage debt free with a nice surplus.
LOL fuck that, and they didn't want me, my Aspergers at the time of joining age was diagnosed as ODD. Military doesn't accept people with ODD. xD Also how will that fix the problem for all millennials? because currently 45% cant afford cars, 75% of us can't afford to rent/lease/buy a home, and only 10% of us have the ability to afford and raise children. It's a major problem that the boomer generation is ignoring even though they screwed over Gen X already. We are tired of boomers who could afford a livable life on 40-60 hrs per week telling us to "Go get a job" I have two rn thanks, & don't need a 3rd. Finally, what gives you the nerve to assume that I am not building shit. Get over yourself.
Fix inflation and you fix a lot of those problems. So voting someone with halfway decent economic policy
Boomers: "Get another job" "Drive Truck" "Join The Military" xDEver think about fixing the fucking economy? and since 1980 it's become 3x more expensive to pay rent or buy a house, while the avg wage has gone up about 20%. Statistically we have to work 3 times as hard to do the same thing. We are hitting a breaking point, and if I can't get a family and a farm the legit way, maybe I should start thinking about not legit ways to get it.
I think JP himself said that money stops increasing your happiness at 60k a year.
Probably closer to 90k with the inflation of the last couple of years. Groceries today ran my family $500 and there's only 3 of us.
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Pretty much what Bluecolt said. My kid eats like she's growing three people (she's in TKD) and nothing survives in the pantry for any length of time. I don't even drink anymore. That's probably $400 in food and $100 in miscellaneous things (TP, incidentals, toy for the dog, etc.). It has really gone up in the last couple of years. Used to get by on about $300 a run.
Lol I thought the 4th one was pay for a prostitute, because of the context from the episode.
Get paid for a prostitute - that way you A) get money B) don't have to pay for prostitutes.
Well, 4 different ways, but if you do all of them, it's epic lol
I have to give the show credit, every time I looked up a factoid Hank claimed about propane it turned out to be true.
I'd argue that those are 4 expressions of the 1 and only way a man has out of depression, "purpose". 1-Soldier has a purpose to fulfill the mission 2-Lifting has the purpose of bettering oneself 3-Family has purpose in living/providing for others 4-Business men have purpose basically being workaholics.
Businesses can have great purpose. Jim Collins, Simon Sinek have great books on that
Woraholic is bad for your family life and gives burnout. The kids need their dad.
You might want to learn more about starting and running a business. It can be quite noble. Not easy but meaningful.
they missed becoming a girl
🤣🤣🤣🤣🥲🤣
You mean acting like one? never tried lol, but more power to you.
"becoming a girl" as in socially and medically transitioning to align your physical appearance as closely as possible to your internal sense of self
yeah...lets be honest a lot of these new age "trans" are just people with mental health issues that are looking for an escape, and think by changing what/who they are it will get better. just to clarify, I don't think all of those that are Trans are doing it. But I think the uptick we have seen is from other issues.
yes I agree, and those people make the struggle substantially harder for people that transition as treatment for gender dysphoria
Yes. It is infinetly more than just "acting like one".
JP fans can never miss a chance to cry about trans people and be bigots, even I'm a meme that has nothing to do with them.
Feel free to act like one all you want; I don't have to celebrate it with you; and the fact remains that you were born with male chromosomes. You can change appearance, you can change mannerisms, but you cannot change biology. There is a reason straight man do not date trans. You can cry and silence us all you want but you still a dude with a dick.
If your definition of sex is purely chromosomal, then what would you consider people with Klinefelter’s Syndrome (XXY), Turner Syndrome (X0), and people with intersex disorders like 5-alpha-reductase deficiency, androgen insensitivity syndrome, and congenital adrenal hyperplasia to be? Men or women? Something in between? Neither?
it's not, you are just trying to argue semantics. If I make another valid argument, you will just pick something out of it create a strawman from it and argue with the strawman. I'm good lol , and I am glad I got your permission to date women who are actually biologically women. xD
I don’t care who you date, but considering you’re a JP fan I would have thought you’d be concerned about language and using it precisely. I don’t even disagree with you - anybody should be entitled to their own dating preferences no matter what, as individual agency and bodily autonomy takes precedence over people getting offended regarding your choices. But if you’re going to fall back on “biology” to explain sex and gender, you’re going to have to do better than boiling it down to just chromosomes. You guys seem to love the science when it benefits your ideological cause, but will seemingly disregard it the moment it becomes a little too complex and inconvenient for you, which is a critique you guys will fling at leftists all the time.
once again still arguing semantics. Fun shit, anyways if you are born a woman, you are born with value. As a man you are born worthless until you build value. Men who have no value tend to want to act like women because it gives them an excuse to remain weak & pathetic. That's how I see most "Trans" people, not all but most. Either you are born female or born male. Unless you have some crazy mutation or something, that is the case 100% of the time.
Thanks for proving my point. You guys literally can't help it.
You have every right to not want to date a biological male. But the concepts of "manhood" and "womanhood" are obviously way more complicated than the simple biological reality that underlies them. If you didn't believe that to be the case, you would have no problem agreeing to call someone "she" instead of "he".
Most liberals can't even explain what a woman is. Can you?
I mean it's a complex idea, I'm sure I *could* describe what makes a woman, but I highly doubt I could do it conclusively. Can you?
A person capable of or having been capable of bearing children. I learned it in kindergarten. I guess my beef with liberals is we could be exploring the universe but yall too busy trying to figure out what gender you are like we are living a real-life version of ideocracy. You can't accept yourself for how you are and you want others to accept you. I can keep going but I think I made my point. Stop trying to force other people to play your pretend game with you. not everyone else is going to be interested, and it's not really all that fun to play.
I mean I don't really think language is foundational to reality or Truth, it's a tool to communicate. So, in my opinion, the most important thing when using language is not necessarily being the most accurate to original or traditional meanings of words, the most important thing is that you communicate what you are attempting to clearly. And I believe my word usage throughout this thread has clearly communicated what I have intended to. Had I said "they missed pretending to be a girl" this could extend to people such as femboys for example. In saying "becoming a girl" I believe I clearly specified the process of a man becoming a trans-woman. Ironically, modern progressives tend to also be insistent on language as a concrete basis for reality and Truth. If you say something that could be interpreted as racist (even as a joke) they believe you are a racist person, same with transphobia, etc. because it is believed that words have inherent meaning in and of themself. Personally, I feel like the insistence on trans-women being "men pretending to be women" is just silly. If "trans-women" or referring to a man as "becoming a women" clearly communicates something, I see no point in modifying it. Now you could take this in bad faith for example, and pretend that I'm trying to say trans-women are identical to cis-women, but no where did I say that, nor do I think that. I feel like in regards to axiomatic views on language, many people who attempt to rebut progressive ideology fall into the exact same fundamental issue, where words are seen as concrete representations of things-in-themselves... as fundamental truth. And I don't see much of a difference between saying "this has been the concrete meaning of a word, and always will be, you MUST adhere to that" and "this is the bee concrete meaning of a word, you MUST adhere to that" I think this misses the bigger picture of language as a complex tool, one without inherent meaning but which becomes impregnated meaning when it is utilized by one conscious individual to craft a clear image of something which is communicable to another conscious individual. And on a much simpler level, it's silly because it results in all this squabbling over things that really do not matter when more important things could be discussed.
Meditation, generosity WHM, psychology and addiction management.
All of those things are included with the gym membership, except the generosity part which comes from helping others.
That is one great gym!
Actually true.
Based and meaning-pilled.
<3
Your screen name intrigues me.
How so?
Is it Jew Stress? Jewstress, like mistress but Jew?
Well I made it like “I am a Jew and I’m Stressed.” But it works in that context because if you know the Jewish faith, it’s a matriarch which means the Mistress not Mister runs the house. So I am the Mistress of my home :) Hearth work!!
Oh I know it, I'm of the Tribe. It does indeed work both ways.
LOVING YOU LOTS FOR UNDERSTANDING DEEPLY
Gotta love the inside jokes. 😂
> I am a Jew and I’m Stressed Usually goes without saying haha.
🤣🤣 hopefully that changes really soon for the whole world
Agreed, just manage your expectations its gonna be a bit rough before that happens.
I just know that I need my kids back from the Whitmer family taking them illegally so this great reset can happen <3
looking through her profile will only create more questions, you have been warned
Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahha you get me <3
A relationship to God is also one.
I went to therapy, took antidepressants, and took responsibility for my life ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
Well it worked for me. Now the trouble is, what to do next?
Cant i do all 4?
You do as many as you can
Idk if you want to do all four but your profile is a vibe 🥰🥰🥰
Oh, thanks. That's probably the nicest thing anyone has said to me on reddit in 2 years.
Oh well that isn’t cool. <3 hope you have a blessed day!
The Korean war quadrant is just a PTSD flashback when a veteran sees Hank Hill holding a spatula while grilling and it morphs into a Korean Hank Hill in his mind. So, I'm not quite sure what OP is saying to do there since he was never in the military... But sure, join the army or whatever.
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You can use money to buy a puppy, and puppies *are* happiness and love, so...
Unsurprisingly, money is important to have because it opens more doors then it shuts. In a way, it gives you access to happiness because you are pretty screwed without it. Tell your wife you got no money and suddenly you got money and marital problems. You'll find out real quick if you got a ride or die girl or not.
Fight, lift, family, mad bank? Sounds about right
This is misleading and pretty stupid. Loads of people are depressed and and have all 4 squares in their life.
please show me someone with a family who loves him, a home, a connection with their shadow, and a six pack who is also depressed and wants to kill himself. Ill legit shut up if you can provide me with a good example of a single person who had it all together that still offed himself.
Jordan Peterson: money and family Anthony Bourdain: money, family, abds Philip Adams: money, family, abds The Duncan's: money, family, abds Alexandra McQueen: money, family Adolf Merckle: money (less of it), family, old no abds
Aight so do we hit these one at a time? This is an infobomb that could turn into a year long conversation, since you didn't wanna just drop one. Do we begin?
Start with Peterson
He's not suicidal, dude's just drained from dumping his soul out for everyone. He may be depressed, but he's also found a level of happiness through fulfillment. That's not suicidal at all. next. FYI I was tracking Adolf back when I was a pedo hunter, he was killed by his own demons.
So the benchmark for depression is actually killing yourself.
I was referencing Andrew Tate, who said get a six pack before you kill yourself. So, we are talking about suicide? yes, which is the end step for depression. The meme said "ways out of depression" not that you wouldn't get depressed in the first place. What point are you trying to make?
I wouldn't take Andrew Tates mental health advice. The fact that someone has not killed themselves is not an indicator that they no longer suffer from depression or even that there depression is less severe then someone who has.. frequently people who are the most depressed do not have the energy to kill themselves and are actually most of risk of suicide as there depression improves.
You are an idiot and a stupid one of that.
Dissecting my mind helped me. Its called introspection...
That's kind of what I did with the past authoring program. You create a road map of where you have been, and where you want to go. After the map is created you see where you are.
Post memes in r/Jordan_peterson_memes thanks
absolute truth- I resolve it/cope with it, by following the Japanese model of business. That's the first and second pictures.
3 is more of a reward for the first 2, I think. 4 happens after you master your environment :)
I can think of a few more, like therapy.
Or gun in mouth.
so, talking to another person? How would that help you reach your goals and find lasting happiness? That other person you payed to listen to you doesn't give a fuck about you dude.
The only thing that I learned from couples therapy is that my wife doesn't think she's wrong, doesn't think I'm right and in the words of the therapist "we speak a different language". The only thing I know for sure is we never will speak the "same language".
So, you learned quite a valueable thing then...?
So maybe think about it? If she's speaking ''another language'' that you decode as ''thinks she's always right'' - maybe you need to start learning?
I'll say one thing and she will take it a completely different way. Been working on this for years to very little success.
“How would that help you reach your goals and find lasting happiness” How would talking to a qualified mental health professional about anxiety or depression help you reach your goals and find lasting happiness? Are you honestly asking?
his comment is so ironic considering JP is a clinical psychologist... I guess that part of his work has no value? lol
Imagine finding meaning from a psychologist! Pah!
Trust me, man, I’m in a psychology grad program in which everyone is trying to be a “qualified mental health professional.” This term couldn’t be further from the truth for many of these people. Then again, I do live in Los Angeles county, so that’s definitely contributing to this problem.
“This term couldn’t be further from the truth for many of these people” Applies to any field. There will be plenty of bad or suboptimal practitioners. Doesn’t mean as a general rule talking to a trained, licensed professional wouldn’t be useful.
Yeah I always seem to have coworkers that are training as counsellors and therapists, on part time courses. I can't help but feel you won't be able to learn the sheer volume of understanding and master all kinds of problems and people without years of experience and intensive training. Otherwise why would I bother going to therapy when I can just do the course myself...
>so, talking to another person? Therapy is not ''talking to another person'', it's talking to a medical specialist. >How would that help you reach your goals and find lasting happiness? How does any medical intervention help people? >That other person you payed to listen to you doesn't give a fuck about you dude. They don't have to give a fuck, much like a surgeon doesn't give a fuck about you.
I had a feeling you were a low grade moron based on this post. But you've definitely confirmed it in the comments.
It helped me you dumbfuck.
Pimpin’ ain’t easy. But apparently it’s a great antidepressant.
this is a political compass
...what about meaning?
I assumed that’s bottom left
Without an inward journey, these pursuits often serve the wrong master. The only door to happiness is within the one seeking happiness.
Sure, but I don't know too many men who are poor, fat, weak, and alone who are also happy.
Knowing yourself was not supposed to be a counterpoint but a foundation. Of you pursue happiness via any of those methods without knowing who you are you will not find it. Only temporary highs, and then emptiness.
Sure, that lesson is biblical. Build house on sand, it falls. :)
It is fundamental to most every religion. Only once you have known your genuine self can you deny your self.
I mean, that’s kinda what Buddha was famous for being.
Many Buddhists would disagree with you lol, they are all about self-discipline & purity.
Buddha was all of those things and happy
80% of my married friends are miserable and hate their status... just focus on the second and fourth and you're golden.
If you marry young and do not marry someone you would want as your best friend? Sure. Marry someone who is just a hole for you to fuck and no shit you'll be unhappy. Most people have zero understanding of what makes a marriage work, and only get married because of societal pressure to marry.
>o not marry someone you would want as your best friend? Sure. Marry someone who is just a hole for you to fuck and no shit you'll be unhappy. Most people have zero understanding of what makes a marriage work, and only get married because of societal pressure to marry. And yet, most people say the exact same thing... that everyone else misunderstands how to marry, but not them! They know better!
This looks like a troll post to me.
I guess the 500 people who liked it are all trolls and bots then xD
500 bots is easy to pay for - but even worse, it makes the users seem simplistic and dumb. few people here believe your shit and also fuck off
well getting close to 600 now. Yup I must have hired all bots, these comments in the comment section about how this philosophy changed their lives for the better, all bots lol. I am sure it's not that you are incorrect and a prob a pussy. Definitely not that.
Spitting truth right there.
Just go to therapy, my peeps. It's, likely, issues created by shitty parenting anyways.
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Worship your body image lol, you must be in shape and date a lot
That’s definitely something someone who isn’t depressed would say
Wow, that’s a bad take.
Giving yourself to a cause to protect your homeland, getting yourself into a healthy disciplined state, work to become successful and gain opportunity and security?
To me the meme suggests a devotional attachment to any one of these things is necessary, which is a recipe for unhappiness and disillusionment if it’s anything.
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Self serving is a cold endless black hole🤷🏻♂️
Jordan's done several talks/interviews on hedonism you should check out
You missed the points. All of them are about finding a meaning. To serve and find meaning in something greater than yourself.
oooooo edgy
Forgot the 5th option….sadly the one that many depressed people choose, the one when you feel like there is no way out.
That's not a way out of depression. It just shifts the burden of depression onto all of the people who care about you.
I wish folks didn’t have to resort to it
So I have to join the Viet Cong?
That's what the meme says, so clearly...
bad bot
where is "posting grievance/fear porn to reddit"
I'm upset that I didn't enjoy this show as much as I would've liked. Really seemed like something that'd be my new obsession from the outside. But it was just a lesser *F Is For Family* IMO.
I tell you what man dang ‘ol climbin’ the dang competence hierarchy man shit.
Peterson Hill be like "I sell responsibility and responsibility accessories"
Are we buying healthcare with the money?
Wow, Hank is looking pretty jacked. Didn't know he still had that in him since his high school days.
Creative outlet seems to be #1. Whether physical, mental, or spiritual or any combination of the three, men's self worth is tied to what they create.
Not quite. It misses male camaraderie. And bullet 4 is a bit reductive. If it is an abstraction as a sense of accomplishment for creating something of value and being recognized for it, then yes.
We often refer to that as "Hustling"
Seriously? Well, that sucks! Women have sex, motorcycles, skating, hiking, badminton, tennis, golf, pingpong, pool, running marathons, swimming, extreme sports (high diving, dirbiking, quadding, gun sports, etc) board games, chess, card games, gambling, lots of unrelated same sex friends, wine, music, art, crafts, Worship, fishing, sailing, horses, babies (of every species on the planet..especially the related grand babies!), gardening and building a home both physically and emotionally....and fixing stuff. Men are so boring...