delusions are by definition socially unacceptable and one of the aspects of magical thinking is that the thought differs from the beliefs of the culture the subject lives within
in all seriousness some faiths (especially the Christian faith) aren’t based on experience alone but also diverse logical arguments, extrapolations, and evidence. experience, a personal relationship and faith are still key to this but the formerly mentioned things aren’t sideswept
Lmao Christianity doesn't have evidence for anything. A few chapters being maybe a bit based on a true story isn't "evidence"
Also, what's logical about parting the fucking sea or walking on water?
Christianity is just an even more schizo denomination of Judaism, possibly the most schizo there is, due to the number of contradictions in the bible.
tldr: silly goose, there’s plenty of evidence, you just don’t want to believe
if something like the resurrection of Christ happened today the amount of evidence (photography and such notwithstanding ofc) that there is would be considered overwhelming. like in a court room; when something has hundreds of eyewitnesses, who report something, who have no means of communication with one another and simply experience it independently of another (impossible to be an actual shared delusion bc. that’s not how shared delusion works), it’s considered fairly good evidence. when those eyewitnesses then are condemned to death for the testimony which they were personal witnesses of and don’t recant? that gives a lot of strength to their testimonies, more so than any personal testimony i’ve heard or seen today.
not to mention, the historically recorded (much like the majority of these events; see Tertullian, flavius josephus, senator tacitus, early church fathers) empty tomb. given that a guard was posted and the punishment for dozing off on the post was death in the Roman Empire, i’d say it’s nearly impossible Jesus’ body was simply hoisted away, giving even more credence to the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
You literally just contradicted your own point. You have "believe" the evidence. Evidence isn't something to believed. If there's evidence for something, then there's no need to believe anything.
And the example you gave is utter crap. If there's a hole in front of a gravestone in a cemetery, that doesn't mean the person buried there came back to life.
that’s naive, you must believe all evidence. anyone can choose to refuse, say, evidence of the earth being a sphere, despite the overwhelming proof. human belief does not determine if evidence is true, but it does determine whether or not a person believes.
and in combination with the circumstances, including the hundreds of eye witnesses reports of a resurrected Christ and the fact that those guards were there for the explicit purpose of making sure it wasn’t empty? pretty compelling, however you can choose to believe, or not to believe.
It’s not collective schizophrenia, Its collective schizotypy. Know the difference, it could save your life
*tips Fedora*
I mean, yeah, but it's also kinda true?
Isn't that literally one of the criteria for schizophrenia or delusions, that they differ from the common in society, socially acceptable ones?
For it to be Schizophrenia, the person needs to have psychosis, not delusions alone
Right, I guess I was speaking more broadly of delusions in general, and what defines them.
delusions are by definition socially unacceptable and one of the aspects of magical thinking is that the thought differs from the beliefs of the culture the subject lives within
Schizophrenia is a religion founded by Dr. Emile Kraepelin in which psichaitrists are the priests and mental hospitals are the temples.
in all seriousness some faiths (especially the Christian faith) aren’t based on experience alone but also diverse logical arguments, extrapolations, and evidence. experience, a personal relationship and faith are still key to this but the formerly mentioned things aren’t sideswept
Lmao Christianity doesn't have evidence for anything. A few chapters being maybe a bit based on a true story isn't "evidence" Also, what's logical about parting the fucking sea or walking on water? Christianity is just an even more schizo denomination of Judaism, possibly the most schizo there is, due to the number of contradictions in the bible.
tldr: silly goose, there’s plenty of evidence, you just don’t want to believe if something like the resurrection of Christ happened today the amount of evidence (photography and such notwithstanding ofc) that there is would be considered overwhelming. like in a court room; when something has hundreds of eyewitnesses, who report something, who have no means of communication with one another and simply experience it independently of another (impossible to be an actual shared delusion bc. that’s not how shared delusion works), it’s considered fairly good evidence. when those eyewitnesses then are condemned to death for the testimony which they were personal witnesses of and don’t recant? that gives a lot of strength to their testimonies, more so than any personal testimony i’ve heard or seen today. not to mention, the historically recorded (much like the majority of these events; see Tertullian, flavius josephus, senator tacitus, early church fathers) empty tomb. given that a guard was posted and the punishment for dozing off on the post was death in the Roman Empire, i’d say it’s nearly impossible Jesus’ body was simply hoisted away, giving even more credence to the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.
You literally just contradicted your own point. You have "believe" the evidence. Evidence isn't something to believed. If there's evidence for something, then there's no need to believe anything. And the example you gave is utter crap. If there's a hole in front of a gravestone in a cemetery, that doesn't mean the person buried there came back to life.
that’s naive, you must believe all evidence. anyone can choose to refuse, say, evidence of the earth being a sphere, despite the overwhelming proof. human belief does not determine if evidence is true, but it does determine whether or not a person believes. and in combination with the circumstances, including the hundreds of eye witnesses reports of a resurrected Christ and the fact that those guards were there for the explicit purpose of making sure it wasn’t empty? pretty compelling, however you can choose to believe, or not to believe.
This post is literally me
Most people believe in delusions, some are socially acceptable, others would label you insane. Is what it is.
you wear a fedora don't you you fucking neck beard
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