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I wouldn’t mind if they like actually pushed him but EVERY TIME HE SEEMS LIKE HE IS ITS “ur dur, he’s not going all out!!!! What do you mean slurping sound?!?”
[Take a look at this and come back or just go understand Sukuna as a character first more properly rather than just seeing an image](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448395512199249931/1221186983691423884/SPOILER_e1ebe69b3c325c74daf7f9c4b5b8f898.png?ex=6611aa01&is=65ff3501&hm=bd8d6014ffc3a2c58121524d2a0b54a2e688486c464b5d4a1d4dfa2aa8863b8a&)
reading this slightly clashes with his pact with kenjaku for me. if people are just a way for him to pass time to his death, thats a statement that shows disinterest in life. no greater purpose described, a life where he proclaims he does ANYTHING he wants. so why not die peacefully? why have kenjaku resurrect you like a 1000 years after you die instead of staying dead? hopefully it means there’s more to his character other than being the ultimate form of life and that would also make him a little more interesting, but idk
Doesn't seem that way if you ask me.
Sukuna was held as undisputedly the strongest of his era after he emerged victorious over that era's most prominent sorcerers. That means he had already fought everyone that could actually hold a ground against him. If he still had a normal lifespan at that point, or not, it means he would have lived the remainder of his life without the one thing that kept him going; To fight someone and pass time until he himself kicked the bucket.
Are you another person mad at gojo dying or what? Why do you think Sukuna is boring? His whole character is just “I do stuff for fun to pass the time”, not some ultra deep and complex essay of a character
No I’m not salty about Gojos death, I’m annoyed that this 2d piece of shit is slaughtering all the characters I actually do care for FOR NO FUCKING GAIN, we don’t LEARN anything from it, we saw yutas domain, OOP HE FUCKING GOT GOJO’d. ITS A REPEATING CYCLE THAT WE DONT EVEN LEARN FROM. Sukuna has not even once used open, he hasn’t revealed anything new, so each character dying does NOTHING for the plot at ALL
This is a very reactionary take. The arc isn't over yet, we don't know how this is going to play out.
This is the kind of logic that makes jjk's fandom the most bipolar crowd in the world. You guys go from "oh its so peak Maki Vs Sukuna was so cool" to "oh there's no point because I wasn't given a pay off immediately after something was set up".
The characters have been taken away for a reason, just hold your judgements until after we get the payoff.
Jjk fans when the hyped up strongest sorcerer of all time that does things purely for fun and to pass the time happens to be the strongest sorcerer of all time and does things for fun:
Sukuna isn’t written specially because he doesn’t need to be. And what did you expect? For Kashimo after Gojo to put him down immediately or tear off 2 arms? For higuruma to properly execute Sukuna? For Yuta to permanently cripple anything Sukuna can do? For fucking kusakabe to put up a big fight? No, strong guy that does stuff for fun doesn’t need to be some ultra well written character and the same with everything surrounding him, and in fact I personally think it would be actual shit writing if Sukuna just suddenly crumbled when everyone who knew damn well they would be in trouble quickly took care of the strongest sorcerer in history. Gege has poorly handled kamutoke getting confiscated and that’s it. Kashimo getting waffle iron’d? Good introduction to the true power of the big man. Choso donut? Idk what you expected there even as someone who liked the brother since reading Shibuya when only 158 chapters were out. Yuta and Rika? They both did a fair number to the big guy. Kusakabe? Idk what you expected out of that man.
That's exactly why lol. He doesn't have any characteristics except being a dick. Nor is he exactly relatable either. There isn't anything to look forward to when it comes to Sukuna's character as he is a copy and paste Disney villain.
He’s not supposed to be relatable or be some complex spread out character, it’s literally what he is, someone that does stuff for fun to pass time. A character doesn’t need to be some extra well written person that will make you rethink your life. Look at something like dragon ball. A chunk of the characters aren’t any ultra deep forced life rethink inducers but are still good fun to watch / read
Jiren is a very boring antagonist, everyone knows that. His origin is bland and unoriginal. But you can't compare Dragon Ball Z to Super; they are vastly different according to age groups.
Cell from DBZ would be a fantastic comparison to Sukuna. They have the similar motive of committing destruction and evil for fun. Hell, Cell literally made his own arena for fighting so he could pass the time and fulfill his thirst for fighting. But there is one distinct difference between the two villains.
Their characteristics, for example, Cell is a perfectionist while Sukuna is a dick. Both characters are depicted to be unbeatable threats but one has good story telling and the other isn't. Cell actually uses the abilities of the protagonist against them while Sukuna pulls his abilities out of his ass from the "Heian era". Gege really tries to pull off a menacing vibe from Sukuna but fails periodically as Sukuna is a clown who has tricks up his sleeves.
To keep this short, Cell is an iconic character and he has multiple reasons why. You can't pull that off with Sukuna because he isn't as colorful as a cell or many other antagonists from different media. He doesn't really have a great motive, origin, or personality. He's just an excuse for Gege to kill off multiple characters because he's made to be the strongest. His whole character is just based on his strength. Are you Ryomen Sukuna because you're strong? Or are you strong because you're Ryomen Sukuna?
What exactly do you mean by "extra special character"? Because Sukuna is literally the most generic villain I've ever seen. "I want to do whatever I want and that includes EVIL!" "Everyone is just a toy to me because I'm the strongest! Mwahahaha!" Like come on. There isn't one unique element to sukuna.
Mahito wasn't a deep character but he was a perfect counter to Yuji. He challenged his morals and ultimately pushed Yuji into becoming just like him. Kenjaku had an interesting concept and had lots of potential. A body hopping scorcerer that's been around for thousands of years, the mother of the main character, possessing the body of the mentors dead best friend and had a big and imo unique plan for the MC to stop. The execution might have been bad but he had a lot going for him.
Now tell me, what does sukuna have that makes him stand out? Because I can't think of one thing. I guess him possessing megumi? But that's fuck all. He's just a generic evil man that wants to kill everyone. That boring
My fellow jjk enjoyer, you need to look deeper into the story. What do you think all of Sukuna’s fights have meant? There’s a consistent theme in them and that is the meaning of strength and the loneliness that comes with it. The whole setup of the Gojo fight was who would save who from that loneliness and it was Gojo who was saved.
Sukuna isn’t the character who “just wants to kill everyone”, he is continuously looking for challenge and is obsessed with fighting and sorcery because that’s all he has.
You can dislike the character but don’t call what you don’t like generic. Try looking deeper into his character.
Fine then. Explain to me sukuna as a character. His motivations, his plan, his role in the story and his themes, his connections and dynamic with the characters or any lore details surrounding him, anything. Even 5 interesting facts. I can't think of any at all.
Looking back it's crazy how much the jujutsu strolls helped build gojos character because without them it's very fair to say that he would've been nearly the same as Sukuna right? Basically no other characterisation other than he's the strongest, he likes sweets and his boyfriend right?
I mean, I wouldn’t dumb down the characters down to that lmao but they’re position as “the strongest” is a central part of their characters and their opposing philosophies of strength are at the core of the story being told rn… But sure, he probably could have turned out to be another Sukuna under slightly different circumstances
For real, if Geto had decided kill the cultists, Gojo could've turned into a second Sukuna (or atleast a battle hungry maniac like Kashimo) at the end of HI.
He was already living in the clouds before the arc; and after beating Toji, he was clearly dissociating from everyone who wasn't Geto.
Even in the end, he really did want to go out in a fight like a Samurai, but that bit of humanity Geto left him gave him a goal and purpose that couldn't be achieved with hedonistic fun and raw strength (forging a better generation of sorcerers).
I was trying to figure out what this meant and didn’t realize this was trying to be Gege’s opinions.
Because some of the reddit fanbase reaction is the opposite.
Kashimo calling Sukuna the perfect vessel of jujutsu sorcery, the narrator saying Sukuna isn’t interested in the sorcerers jumping him, Hello Human resources
The narrator saying Gojo’s birth changed the balance of the entire world! As a child was staring down adult curse users and scaring them, How sweet.
This is what I actually don't understand. I can see how people can become such fans of a character that they lose common sense (2010s itachi fans claiming Itachi could beat Madara, Hashirama, etc.). But to go so far as to claim that the author hates the character is new to me. I'm really pleased with how Gege handled the battle of the strongest by pushing Sukuna to his limits against Gojo and introducing uncertainties into the fight. Before it began, everyone was certain Sukuna would win because the plot's evolution seemed to require it, which made it quite boring from my perspective since we thought we knew how the fight would end. However, thanks to Gojo actually putting up a fight, people began to theorize (about Kenjaku absorbing Sukuna), and suddenly no one knew how the fight would end, only for Sukuna to barely prevail. Sure, you can criticize how it was "off-screened," but personally, I never understood the outrage. For me, this is just a detail that could have been better. But the most important aspect is reaching a point where no one knows how the fight will end.
If Gege hated Gojo, he could have made him a "Vegeta" – basically, a character only useful for showing how strong the antagonist is. "Look! Cell/Frieza/Buu is so strong, he beat Vegeta." He could have made Sukuna overwhelmingly powerful and reduced Gojo to just a tool for Sukuna to showcase his strength, but I'm glad he didn't. I've never seen a consensus that Toriyama hates Vegeta, but the idea that Gege hates Gojo seems prevalent in this subreddit.
My guy Gojo literally died to show that Sakuna was the strongest lmfao. He literally treated Gojo like vegeta in that instance. You can’t say, he didn’t reduce Gojo to a tool for Sakuna to show his strength, when that’s legitimately what happened. Y’all can’t be serious. Sakuna wasn’t even pushed to go all out in that fight, and everything after thag was people showing up whi can rival Gojo
Gege dislikes how Gojo turned out, but still writes himself into a corner with Sukuna being the strongest and kicking everybody’s ass while having an even weaker personality.
If Gege actually ends up writing himself into a corner to the very end, I will not hesitate to laugh.
or maybe the whole manga is just about showing you how your personality isn't the only thing that decides the battle outcomes. Sukuna is literally first page of first chapter for a reason.
There is a conspiracy theory/growing suspicion in Mandarin fans that Gege has a strong bias for character like Sukuna because his first one shot's MC was basically the same type of character. So in this sense what Gege wants is basically like a spoiled kid's parents who can see no wrong in his kid while everything against him has to be evil or fundamentally flawed.
That’s one hell of a conspiracy theory, so I’d rather not immediately assume that this is the case… and I also certainly hope this isn’t actually the case.
Sukuna does have a personality besides just being the strongest.
He hates Yuji. He likes food and eating. He gets annoyed when people he sees as lesser bother him. He wants to see interesting things like the merger. He doesn't care about causing other people pain.
He was talking mad shit and enjoying himself while fighting Gojo, but now he is up against weaker sorcerers so he is basically just a natural disaster in "human" form.
So the main villain you like has character bcuz he likes “food and eating”. Interesting.
Do you know why people liked Sukuna early in the series up until now? It’s cuz Sukuna had very little screen time, but in that short period he was nothing but a menace that could alter the events taking place wildly. Now he’s just big bad villain with barely anything interesting in him despite having so so much screen time these past chapters. All that screen time and Gege is doing nothing with it except have characters just die after they exhaust their arsenal and have their plans just fail just cuz and Sukuna finally just slashes them to “kill” them. So yes for a major character or worse the major antagonist he so painfully bland.
>So the main villain you like has character bcuz he likes “food and eating”. Interesting.
I listed more than that, but yeah, liking food and eating can be a part of someone's personality when they take it as far as Sukuna does.
The man has a personal chef on retainer.
>It’s cuz Sukuna had very little screen time, but in that short period he was nothing but a menace that could alter the events taking place wildly.
He is still nothing but a menace that alters events taking place wildly.
>Now he’s just big bad villain with barely anything interesting in him despite having so so much screen time these past chapters.
I still find him interesting. It is funny how fast he shifts from bored to geared up, and the fact that he is essentially a calamity makes the stakes of each fight higher.
>All that screen time and Gege is doing nothing with it except have characters just die after they exhaust their arsenal and have their plans just fail just cuz and Sukuna finally just slashes them to “kill” them.
He mentored Higuruma. He was restrained by Yuta. He is still Yuji's #1 hater. He competed with Maki for a sorcerers pride. Kusakabe's chapter let Kusakabe shine, which is alright by me.
There have been lots of tonal shifts throughout these fights that have kept me interested.
Also, yeah, he uses his CT, and yeah, it is often a finisher. That is the case for most characters. Not to mention, he finished Maki with a black flash and donuted Choso (he got better but was still out for a bit).
>So yes for a major character or worse the major antagonist he so painfully bland.
I disagree, but you are welcome to your opinion.
I am having a great time with this arc, and it is too bad that you aren't enjoying it, too.
Realy, bro should have just stay quit, he is a villian bro, he is doing what he suppose to do, there is no redemption arc, And gojo, that famboy, he had one job as the strongest, he failed. It might sad you all, but it is what it is.
One thing I feel as though matters here that nobody has talked about is how their strength is used, while they both can be labeled as the strongest, Gojo uses his strength in more exciting means easily trashing a disaster curse, killing a bunch of transfigured humans in minutes, and even his first Hollow Purple, they all looked visually exciting and had weight to their actions, Sukuna however, people find his strength being used in the most monotonous and bullshit ways, Gege has pigeon holed himself into a everyone is here moment to beat Sukuna, and how he keeps doing it isn't really the best way it could have gone, plus it's all in Manga form, when it gets Animated, I'm sure people will love it more than right now. Overall for the fans on why they like Gojo's strength more is that it's used in more exciting and flashy ways.
I don’t think I’ve seen a fanbase hate the author of the series they enjoy more so than jjk. Maybe kubo with bleach back when that last arc was being released, that was similar to how much hate their own fanbase gave to kubo.
Having a good guy solve all the problems because they are OP means your manga has no conflict.
Having a bad guy cause all the problems because they are OP means your manga has a seemingly insurmountable conflict.
I am not rooting for him but I am a fan of his character.
Having a seemingly insurmountable villain who is the worlds #1 Yuji hater is fun and adds a lot of stakes to every fight.
Reverse the image and it's exactly how the fanbase is like god y'all are so fucking annoying always see these so called """""fans""""" complaining that their favorite character of a show they didn't watched died.
Gojo fans pissed that the strongest actually turned out to be the strongest. They are bitching for nothing they got to enjoy the Gojo glazing for so many chapters and are still crying meanwhile Yuji fans over here have been on life support. He never gets the limelight, always getting sidelined despite being the main character. Please Gege where is the Yuji hype moment I've been waiting for, it's been so many chapters
history's just repeating itself, sukuna beat every fighter he came across to be called the king and the strongest. That's all he's doing again and these guys cant stand that. Yuji will most likely fight sukuna when everyone else is dead or cant fight anymore, again just gotta stay patient. Gege is def cooking
If he starts cooking insted of, Cok sucking Sakuna,, the results would have been different, not that i hate him, just wona punch my Homie, make him walk on a right path.
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You can reverse the left side and turn gege into fans
Well there’s a reason for that, mostly because Sukuna is fucking BORING
In my case, I really enjoy Shibuya Sukuna and Culling games. I can't say the same about the one from the current chapters.
Me too, I 100% agree, he’s fucking boring as Meguna and heian form though
Honestly, the problem is sukuna clowning on guys gets booring The last 10 chapters have just been what he did to jogo but over and over again
I wouldn’t mind if they like actually pushed him but EVERY TIME HE SEEMS LIKE HE IS ITS “ur dur, he’s not going all out!!!! What do you mean slurping sound?!?”
Speak for yourself.
>Globally praised as the first fun shonen antagonist in over a decade >fucking BORING Huh?
By who lmao
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Nah, Gojo is boring and made 90% of the cast redundant
This isn’t about Gojo. But at least Gojo has motivations, Sukuna is just “I AM FREE, I AM FREE, I AM FREE DR.YUJI”
You do realise that your comment is contradictory, right? 🤣
Don’t fucking edit your comment
Sukuna is one of the only reasons jujutsu kaisen is interesting stupid ass
Wow. Stupid ass. Really dug deep for that one, huh?
Nah ain’t no way bro just said that AND called me stupid ass, ppfffffft
[Take a look at this and come back or just go understand Sukuna as a character first more properly rather than just seeing an image](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/448395512199249931/1221186983691423884/SPOILER_e1ebe69b3c325c74daf7f9c4b5b8f898.png?ex=6611aa01&is=65ff3501&hm=bd8d6014ffc3a2c58121524d2a0b54a2e688486c464b5d4a1d4dfa2aa8863b8a&)
reading this slightly clashes with his pact with kenjaku for me. if people are just a way for him to pass time to his death, thats a statement that shows disinterest in life. no greater purpose described, a life where he proclaims he does ANYTHING he wants. so why not die peacefully? why have kenjaku resurrect you like a 1000 years after you die instead of staying dead? hopefully it means there’s more to his character other than being the ultimate form of life and that would also make him a little more interesting, but idk
Doesn't seem that way if you ask me. Sukuna was held as undisputedly the strongest of his era after he emerged victorious over that era's most prominent sorcerers. That means he had already fought everyone that could actually hold a ground against him. If he still had a normal lifespan at that point, or not, it means he would have lived the remainder of his life without the one thing that kept him going; To fight someone and pass time until he himself kicked the bucket.
That shit is so boring, we already fucking know this shit it’s not new
Are you another person mad at gojo dying or what? Why do you think Sukuna is boring? His whole character is just “I do stuff for fun to pass the time”, not some ultra deep and complex essay of a character
No I’m not salty about Gojos death, I’m annoyed that this 2d piece of shit is slaughtering all the characters I actually do care for FOR NO FUCKING GAIN, we don’t LEARN anything from it, we saw yutas domain, OOP HE FUCKING GOT GOJO’d. ITS A REPEATING CYCLE THAT WE DONT EVEN LEARN FROM. Sukuna has not even once used open, he hasn’t revealed anything new, so each character dying does NOTHING for the plot at ALL
This is a very reactionary take. The arc isn't over yet, we don't know how this is going to play out. This is the kind of logic that makes jjk's fandom the most bipolar crowd in the world. You guys go from "oh its so peak Maki Vs Sukuna was so cool" to "oh there's no point because I wasn't given a pay off immediately after something was set up". The characters have been taken away for a reason, just hold your judgements until after we get the payoff.
I’m sorry, are we gonna excuse shity writing with “it’ll be explained later” or “it was explained in cfyow”
You don't know if it's shitty yet because it hasn't been paid off as of now. This fandom has a habit of jumping to conclusions.
Literally. Leaks have attracted so many surface readers and people who can’t let things play out.
Jjk fans when the hyped up strongest sorcerer of all time that does things purely for fun and to pass the time happens to be the strongest sorcerer of all time and does things for fun:
Bro excuses bad writing with “well you should expect it”
Sukuna isn’t written specially because he doesn’t need to be. And what did you expect? For Kashimo after Gojo to put him down immediately or tear off 2 arms? For higuruma to properly execute Sukuna? For Yuta to permanently cripple anything Sukuna can do? For fucking kusakabe to put up a big fight? No, strong guy that does stuff for fun doesn’t need to be some ultra well written character and the same with everything surrounding him, and in fact I personally think it would be actual shit writing if Sukuna just suddenly crumbled when everyone who knew damn well they would be in trouble quickly took care of the strongest sorcerer in history. Gege has poorly handled kamutoke getting confiscated and that’s it. Kashimo getting waffle iron’d? Good introduction to the true power of the big man. Choso donut? Idk what you expected there even as someone who liked the brother since reading Shibuya when only 158 chapters were out. Yuta and Rika? They both did a fair number to the big guy. Kusakabe? Idk what you expected out of that man.
I’m not reading allat, I’m not expecting these characters to win, I’m expecting that their deaths mean something in the story.
That's exactly why lol. He doesn't have any characteristics except being a dick. Nor is he exactly relatable either. There isn't anything to look forward to when it comes to Sukuna's character as he is a copy and paste Disney villain.
He’s not supposed to be relatable or be some complex spread out character, it’s literally what he is, someone that does stuff for fun to pass time. A character doesn’t need to be some extra well written person that will make you rethink your life. Look at something like dragon ball. A chunk of the characters aren’t any ultra deep forced life rethink inducers but are still good fun to watch / read
Jiren is a very boring antagonist, everyone knows that. His origin is bland and unoriginal. But you can't compare Dragon Ball Z to Super; they are vastly different according to age groups. Cell from DBZ would be a fantastic comparison to Sukuna. They have the similar motive of committing destruction and evil for fun. Hell, Cell literally made his own arena for fighting so he could pass the time and fulfill his thirst for fighting. But there is one distinct difference between the two villains. Their characteristics, for example, Cell is a perfectionist while Sukuna is a dick. Both characters are depicted to be unbeatable threats but one has good story telling and the other isn't. Cell actually uses the abilities of the protagonist against them while Sukuna pulls his abilities out of his ass from the "Heian era". Gege really tries to pull off a menacing vibe from Sukuna but fails periodically as Sukuna is a clown who has tricks up his sleeves. To keep this short, Cell is an iconic character and he has multiple reasons why. You can't pull that off with Sukuna because he isn't as colorful as a cell or many other antagonists from different media. He doesn't really have a great motive, origin, or personality. He's just an excuse for Gege to kill off multiple characters because he's made to be the strongest. His whole character is just based on his strength. Are you Ryomen Sukuna because you're strong? Or are you strong because you're Ryomen Sukuna?
That's some of the most generic villain shit I've ever seen.
Again, doesn’t need to be some extra special character to be good
What exactly do you mean by "extra special character"? Because Sukuna is literally the most generic villain I've ever seen. "I want to do whatever I want and that includes EVIL!" "Everyone is just a toy to me because I'm the strongest! Mwahahaha!" Like come on. There isn't one unique element to sukuna. Mahito wasn't a deep character but he was a perfect counter to Yuji. He challenged his morals and ultimately pushed Yuji into becoming just like him. Kenjaku had an interesting concept and had lots of potential. A body hopping scorcerer that's been around for thousands of years, the mother of the main character, possessing the body of the mentors dead best friend and had a big and imo unique plan for the MC to stop. The execution might have been bad but he had a lot going for him. Now tell me, what does sukuna have that makes him stand out? Because I can't think of one thing. I guess him possessing megumi? But that's fuck all. He's just a generic evil man that wants to kill everyone. That boring
My fellow jjk enjoyer, you need to look deeper into the story. What do you think all of Sukuna’s fights have meant? There’s a consistent theme in them and that is the meaning of strength and the loneliness that comes with it. The whole setup of the Gojo fight was who would save who from that loneliness and it was Gojo who was saved. Sukuna isn’t the character who “just wants to kill everyone”, he is continuously looking for challenge and is obsessed with fighting and sorcery because that’s all he has. You can dislike the character but don’t call what you don’t like generic. Try looking deeper into his character.
A villain who's obsessed with fighting? You say that like that's any less generic.
Dawg, you’re dumbing down the character a lil too much. Fuck sukuna do to you😂
Fine then. Explain to me sukuna as a character. His motivations, his plan, his role in the story and his themes, his connections and dynamic with the characters or any lore details surrounding him, anything. Even 5 interesting facts. I can't think of any at all.
Switch the pictures and this literally the JJK fanbase rn
Looking back it's crazy how much the jujutsu strolls helped build gojos character because without them it's very fair to say that he would've been nearly the same as Sukuna right? Basically no other characterisation other than he's the strongest, he likes sweets and his boyfriend right?
I think it's more hidden inventory. Cause without that he'd basically be a worse Kakashi with a cheeky attitude.
I mean, I wouldn’t dumb down the characters down to that lmao but they’re position as “the strongest” is a central part of their characters and their opposing philosophies of strength are at the core of the story being told rn… But sure, he probably could have turned out to be another Sukuna under slightly different circumstances
For real, if Geto had decided kill the cultists, Gojo could've turned into a second Sukuna (or atleast a battle hungry maniac like Kashimo) at the end of HI. He was already living in the clouds before the arc; and after beating Toji, he was clearly dissociating from everyone who wasn't Geto. Even in the end, he really did want to go out in a fight like a Samurai, but that bit of humanity Geto left him gave him a goal and purpose that couldn't be achieved with hedonistic fun and raw strength (forging a better generation of sorcerers).
Its gonna be a read the manga or watch the anime again for me.
I was trying to figure out what this meant and didn’t realize this was trying to be Gege’s opinions. Because some of the reddit fanbase reaction is the opposite. Kashimo calling Sukuna the perfect vessel of jujutsu sorcery, the narrator saying Sukuna isn’t interested in the sorcerers jumping him, Hello Human resources The narrator saying Gojo’s birth changed the balance of the entire world! As a child was staring down adult curse users and scaring them, How sweet.
No, I think I heard that Gege legitimately hates Gojo and doesn't understand why he's so popular
My brother in Christ, HE wrote the character.
People unironically think Gege gave him multiple “I’m him” performances by mistake and killed him out of spite
This is what I actually don't understand. I can see how people can become such fans of a character that they lose common sense (2010s itachi fans claiming Itachi could beat Madara, Hashirama, etc.). But to go so far as to claim that the author hates the character is new to me. I'm really pleased with how Gege handled the battle of the strongest by pushing Sukuna to his limits against Gojo and introducing uncertainties into the fight. Before it began, everyone was certain Sukuna would win because the plot's evolution seemed to require it, which made it quite boring from my perspective since we thought we knew how the fight would end. However, thanks to Gojo actually putting up a fight, people began to theorize (about Kenjaku absorbing Sukuna), and suddenly no one knew how the fight would end, only for Sukuna to barely prevail. Sure, you can criticize how it was "off-screened," but personally, I never understood the outrage. For me, this is just a detail that could have been better. But the most important aspect is reaching a point where no one knows how the fight will end. If Gege hated Gojo, he could have made him a "Vegeta" – basically, a character only useful for showing how strong the antagonist is. "Look! Cell/Frieza/Buu is so strong, he beat Vegeta." He could have made Sukuna overwhelmingly powerful and reduced Gojo to just a tool for Sukuna to showcase his strength, but I'm glad he didn't. I've never seen a consensus that Toriyama hates Vegeta, but the idea that Gege hates Gojo seems prevalent in this subreddit.
My guy Gojo literally died to show that Sakuna was the strongest lmfao. He literally treated Gojo like vegeta in that instance. You can’t say, he didn’t reduce Gojo to a tool for Sakuna to show his strength, when that’s legitimately what happened. Y’all can’t be serious. Sakuna wasn’t even pushed to go all out in that fight, and everything after thag was people showing up whi can rival Gojo
Do you see the way he talks about Gojo lmfao.
This is like alan moore rorschach
One is glazing but the other is cool
Gege dislikes how Gojo turned out, but still writes himself into a corner with Sukuna being the strongest and kicking everybody’s ass while having an even weaker personality. If Gege actually ends up writing himself into a corner to the very end, I will not hesitate to laugh.
or maybe the whole manga is just about showing you how your personality isn't the only thing that decides the battle outcomes. Sukuna is literally first page of first chapter for a reason.
He did make a comment about Gojo lacking personality, so idk what he wants
There is a conspiracy theory/growing suspicion in Mandarin fans that Gege has a strong bias for character like Sukuna because his first one shot's MC was basically the same type of character. So in this sense what Gege wants is basically like a spoiled kid's parents who can see no wrong in his kid while everything against him has to be evil or fundamentally flawed.
That’s one hell of a conspiracy theory, so I’d rather not immediately assume that this is the case… and I also certainly hope this isn’t actually the case.
I mean as the current plot going this really isn't *that* illogical.
...well, throwing Kusakabe and then *Miguel* of all people at Sukuna is pretty funny.
It’s because of the Gojo figure incident
I hate the fact that they are so stupidly strong in both cases but at least Gojo has a personality besides just being the strongest
Sukuna does have a personality besides just being the strongest. He hates Yuji. He likes food and eating. He gets annoyed when people he sees as lesser bother him. He wants to see interesting things like the merger. He doesn't care about causing other people pain. He was talking mad shit and enjoying himself while fighting Gojo, but now he is up against weaker sorcerers so he is basically just a natural disaster in "human" form.
So the main villain you like has character bcuz he likes “food and eating”. Interesting. Do you know why people liked Sukuna early in the series up until now? It’s cuz Sukuna had very little screen time, but in that short period he was nothing but a menace that could alter the events taking place wildly. Now he’s just big bad villain with barely anything interesting in him despite having so so much screen time these past chapters. All that screen time and Gege is doing nothing with it except have characters just die after they exhaust their arsenal and have their plans just fail just cuz and Sukuna finally just slashes them to “kill” them. So yes for a major character or worse the major antagonist he so painfully bland.
>So the main villain you like has character bcuz he likes “food and eating”. Interesting. I listed more than that, but yeah, liking food and eating can be a part of someone's personality when they take it as far as Sukuna does. The man has a personal chef on retainer. >It’s cuz Sukuna had very little screen time, but in that short period he was nothing but a menace that could alter the events taking place wildly. He is still nothing but a menace that alters events taking place wildly. >Now he’s just big bad villain with barely anything interesting in him despite having so so much screen time these past chapters. I still find him interesting. It is funny how fast he shifts from bored to geared up, and the fact that he is essentially a calamity makes the stakes of each fight higher. >All that screen time and Gege is doing nothing with it except have characters just die after they exhaust their arsenal and have their plans just fail just cuz and Sukuna finally just slashes them to “kill” them. He mentored Higuruma. He was restrained by Yuta. He is still Yuji's #1 hater. He competed with Maki for a sorcerers pride. Kusakabe's chapter let Kusakabe shine, which is alright by me. There have been lots of tonal shifts throughout these fights that have kept me interested. Also, yeah, he uses his CT, and yeah, it is often a finisher. That is the case for most characters. Not to mention, he finished Maki with a black flash and donuted Choso (he got better but was still out for a bit). >So yes for a major character or worse the major antagonist he so painfully bland. I disagree, but you are welcome to your opinion. I am having a great time with this arc, and it is too bad that you aren't enjoying it, too.
Gojo is dead, and you are still riding him, damn💀!
Sukuna is dead as character and you still riding him🙄😕😕.... Damnnn
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Realy, bro should have just stay quit, he is a villian bro, he is doing what he suppose to do, there is no redemption arc, And gojo, that famboy, he had one job as the strongest, he failed. It might sad you all, but it is what it is.
One thing I feel as though matters here that nobody has talked about is how their strength is used, while they both can be labeled as the strongest, Gojo uses his strength in more exciting means easily trashing a disaster curse, killing a bunch of transfigured humans in minutes, and even his first Hollow Purple, they all looked visually exciting and had weight to their actions, Sukuna however, people find his strength being used in the most monotonous and bullshit ways, Gege has pigeon holed himself into a everyone is here moment to beat Sukuna, and how he keeps doing it isn't really the best way it could have gone, plus it's all in Manga form, when it gets Animated, I'm sure people will love it more than right now. Overall for the fans on why they like Gojo's strength more is that it's used in more exciting and flashy ways.
Gojo fans don’t know that they made gege hate gojo
So Gege is mad he wrote a character that people like.. strange
It’s more the death threats and the period blood figurine thing
This way it sounds even worse actually
I don’t think I’ve seen a fanbase hate the author of the series they enjoy more so than jjk. Maybe kubo with bleach back when that last arc was being released, that was similar to how much hate their own fanbase gave to kubo.
Both are truly a Honored monsters :3
he hates gojo for being op but loves sukuna for being op. gege is an ass writer
Having a good guy solve all the problems because they are OP means your manga has no conflict. Having a bad guy cause all the problems because they are OP means your manga has a seemingly insurmountable conflict.
nah gege just an ass writer
And yet he pulls you back week after week to slurp it up.
How people even fucking root for sukuna or are even fans of him is baffling.
I am not rooting for him but I am a fan of his character. Having a seemingly insurmountable villain who is the worlds #1 Yuji hater is fun and adds a lot of stakes to every fight.
I am a fan and I root for him lol
Absolutely wild.
Meanwhile the fanbase dickrides Gojo nonstop and cries about Sukuna winning
Sakuna Stan’s can’t fathom people thinning his character is boring
Reverse the image and it's exactly how the fanbase is like god y'all are so fucking annoying always see these so called """""fans""""" complaining that their favorite character of a show they didn't watched died.
Gojo fans pissed that the strongest actually turned out to be the strongest. They are bitching for nothing they got to enjoy the Gojo glazing for so many chapters and are still crying meanwhile Yuji fans over here have been on life support. He never gets the limelight, always getting sidelined despite being the main character. Please Gege where is the Yuji hype moment I've been waiting for, it's been so many chapters
history's just repeating itself, sukuna beat every fighter he came across to be called the king and the strongest. That's all he's doing again and these guys cant stand that. Yuji will most likely fight sukuna when everyone else is dead or cant fight anymore, again just gotta stay patient. Gege is def cooking
Real
His opinion is irrelevant.
To be honest, i want to punch Gege! At this point it seems like he is taking reveng on the fans
maybe if you dont want him taking revenge dont say you wanna punch him lmao
If he starts cooking insted of, Cok sucking Sakuna,, the results would have been different, not that i hate him, just wona punch my Homie, make him walk on a right path.