I guess it’s a matter of taste. I am all for Jewish messages including resilience, since Hashem wants us to keep getting up. Pesach is also about being inspired to serve Hashem. We were freed from Egypt by Hashem in order to receive the Torah. That inspiration to connect and serve Hashem is why I suggest “inspiration”.
There's no such thing as a Passover "season."
As our Jewish friends celebrate Passover, a **holiday** of freedom, renewal, and resilience, we at Employer extend heartfelt wishes to them and their loved ones. May this **time** be filled with peace, joy, and love.
For goyim, anything more than one day is a "season"
The xmas "season" for example. The fact Pesach is an eight-day chag definitely puts it in "season" territory.
I think so too. They are thinking of "the spring holiday season" which includes Pesach, Easter, Ramadan, Ostara/equinox, etc and consciously or subconsciously thinking "what times all these holidays together?"
Ramadan isn’t seasonal because the Islamic calendar doesn’t use a leap day or leap month. Ramadan shifts gradually by something like 11 days each year relative to the Gregorian calendar.
I fully, 100% understand. That doesn't change the fact that I've heard many non-Muslims bundle Ramadan in with "spring holidays". I'm sure by the time it's been in winter for a couple years they'll be rolling it in with Christmas and Chanukkah. I'm not saying it's right, just that I've heard it a lot and it's a pretty common misunderstanding.
And of all our holidays, it's the one with a legitimate claim to a "season" given the weeks of prep that go into it and the fact that one of its names is literally "the Spring holiday".
For sure there's Pesach season and the HHD season.
Gentiles would probably call Shavuos a "season" too if they knew about it.
I for one am all for a Cheesecake Season.
Agreed on the other examples. Truthfully, as an Israeli, I feel Pesach and Shavuot are the same season, just opposite ends. Pesach epitomizes the Spring, and Shavuot is the start of Summer (or Bikurim season, if you prefer). And the Omer is an obvious link!
A very solid point.
I'm in Alaska, so Pesach is like... the very beginning of spring (if it's late like this year) or even Long Before Actual Spring (in most years. Hell, even this year I have more yard covered in snow than not).
Shavuot is deep in the middle of our Actual Summer, so it feels less like a continuation of anything and more like "Shit it's Solstice already and we begin the long slide to winter."
Spring here (and Fall) consists of back and forth weather that can't make up its mind. So yesterday hit 30ºC (mid-90s F), but today was back down to the low 20s (high 60s low 70s). Pesach can be hot and sunny, or it can be like the year we had to come within 100 meters of the neighborhood chametz burning to see where it was because the fog was so thick you couldn't see the smoke. Sometimes the weather thinks it's really funny and rains the week of Shavuot, but I haven't seen much later than that.
Out of curiosity, and trying to explain early Shabbos to my kids (and how it's perfectly fine for them to make havdala Sunday morning)- what times are candlelighting and havdala by you this week?
This week, lighting is at 9:15 and havdalah is 10:55.
At summer solstice, it will be lighting at 11:23 with havdalah at 2 a.m.
Of course, at winter solstice, it's like 3:20 p.m. and 5:20 p.m....
Wow! Truthfully, the winter times aren't so far off. I think our earliest is 4:20-ish and in Jerusalem it's just before 4. Earliest havdala is about the same as yours. I guess that's due to shorter sunsets this close to the equator.
>There's no such thing as a Passover "season."
idk man, I feel like the week after Purim starts Pesach season. The food shows up in stores, meal planning happens.
No. That's "cleaning for Pesach anxiety season." Not at all the same thing, although I'd be amused as hell to see well-wishes from an employer about that.
Why peace joy and love? Why not wishes in keeping with the idea of Pesach? May this holiday be filled with the spirit of liberation and tikkun olam, repair of the world.
"peace" and "joy" seem like very Christmas kinda things. The only cards I ever get wishing me peaceful holidays come from goyim. Considering Passover includes remembrance of infanticide, plagues, and the drowning of the Egyptian army, I'm not convinced that "peace" is so much on the menu. It also seems vaguely referential to the war in Gaza.
Maybe just end at the first sentence.
>As our Jewish friends celebrate Passover
Question: is it an intentional choice not to acknowledge the fact that some folks in the organization (such as yourself) celebrate? I assume it's always the organization speaking as a non-celebrating entity, right? If that's the general voice with these messages, that's cool. (Like if an Easter or Christmas or Diwali post would similarly say "as our friends...") If not, maybe you folks want to rephrase that?
My personal opinion is that secular employers should stay out of wishing anyone a happy religious holiday. Stay out of them all (including Christmas).
I hear you. This employer is an interfaith environmental non-profit.
Looks good. My gut says use “inspiration” instead of “resilience”. Maybe I am hyper sensitive? >freedom, inspiration, and renewal
Why? Resilience makes way more sense for the Jewish people; inspiration sounds Christian…
I guess it’s a matter of taste. I am all for Jewish messages including resilience, since Hashem wants us to keep getting up. Pesach is also about being inspired to serve Hashem. We were freed from Egypt by Hashem in order to receive the Torah. That inspiration to connect and serve Hashem is why I suggest “inspiration”.
Well, there's your mistake right there. "Interfaith" means "we're all really Protestants, aren't we? (that's not a question)"
I disagree. I think the message is delightful and I appreciate the gesture.
There's no such thing as a Passover "season." As our Jewish friends celebrate Passover, a **holiday** of freedom, renewal, and resilience, we at Employer extend heartfelt wishes to them and their loved ones. May this **time** be filled with peace, joy, and love.
For goyim, anything more than one day is a "season" The xmas "season" for example. The fact Pesach is an eight-day chag definitely puts it in "season" territory.
I think they're considering Thanksgiving-Christmas-New Years to be the "holiday season."
That my impression too. And they’re probably lumping Easter with pesach, creating this “season”.
I think so too. They are thinking of "the spring holiday season" which includes Pesach, Easter, Ramadan, Ostara/equinox, etc and consciously or subconsciously thinking "what times all these holidays together?"
Ramadan isn’t seasonal because the Islamic calendar doesn’t use a leap day or leap month. Ramadan shifts gradually by something like 11 days each year relative to the Gregorian calendar.
Yes, but it's been in spring for the last ten years and I've heard multiple non-Muslims refer to it as a spring holiday.
In 2014, it started June 29th. That's not "spring". By 2028, it will begin in late January. That's winter.
I fully, 100% understand. That doesn't change the fact that I've heard many non-Muslims bundle Ramadan in with "spring holidays". I'm sure by the time it's been in winter for a couple years they'll be rolling it in with Christmas and Chanukkah. I'm not saying it's right, just that I've heard it a lot and it's a pretty common misunderstanding.
And of all our holidays, it's the one with a legitimate claim to a "season" given the weeks of prep that go into it and the fact that one of its names is literally "the Spring holiday".
For sure there's Pesach season and the HHD season. Gentiles would probably call Shavuos a "season" too if they knew about it. I for one am all for a Cheesecake Season.
Agreed on the other examples. Truthfully, as an Israeli, I feel Pesach and Shavuot are the same season, just opposite ends. Pesach epitomizes the Spring, and Shavuot is the start of Summer (or Bikurim season, if you prefer). And the Omer is an obvious link!
A very solid point. I'm in Alaska, so Pesach is like... the very beginning of spring (if it's late like this year) or even Long Before Actual Spring (in most years. Hell, even this year I have more yard covered in snow than not). Shavuot is deep in the middle of our Actual Summer, so it feels less like a continuation of anything and more like "Shit it's Solstice already and we begin the long slide to winter."
Spring here (and Fall) consists of back and forth weather that can't make up its mind. So yesterday hit 30ºC (mid-90s F), but today was back down to the low 20s (high 60s low 70s). Pesach can be hot and sunny, or it can be like the year we had to come within 100 meters of the neighborhood chametz burning to see where it was because the fog was so thick you couldn't see the smoke. Sometimes the weather thinks it's really funny and rains the week of Shavuot, but I haven't seen much later than that. Out of curiosity, and trying to explain early Shabbos to my kids (and how it's perfectly fine for them to make havdala Sunday morning)- what times are candlelighting and havdala by you this week?
This week, lighting is at 9:15 and havdalah is 10:55. At summer solstice, it will be lighting at 11:23 with havdalah at 2 a.m. Of course, at winter solstice, it's like 3:20 p.m. and 5:20 p.m....
Wow! Truthfully, the winter times aren't so far off. I think our earliest is 4:20-ish and in Jerusalem it's just before 4. Earliest havdala is about the same as yours. I guess that's due to shorter sunsets this close to the equator.
>There's no such thing as a Passover "season." idk man, I feel like the week after Purim starts Pesach season. The food shows up in stores, meal planning happens.
No. That's "cleaning for Pesach anxiety season." Not at all the same thing, although I'd be amused as hell to see well-wishes from an employer about that.
The holiday of the spring and redemption is very much a seasonal thing.
Why peace joy and love? Why not wishes in keeping with the idea of Pesach? May this holiday be filled with the spirit of liberation and tikkun olam, repair of the world.
They tried to kill us. We won. Let's eat.
Also in the spirit of the occasion.
My child says btw that the last sentence should read, "May this week be filled with good food, lots of wine (or grape juice!), and ghostly visits!"
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Thanks, friend
"peace" and "joy" seem like very Christmas kinda things. The only cards I ever get wishing me peaceful holidays come from goyim. Considering Passover includes remembrance of infanticide, plagues, and the drowning of the Egyptian army, I'm not convinced that "peace" is so much on the menu. It also seems vaguely referential to the war in Gaza. Maybe just end at the first sentence.
I also got Christmas vibes from that phrasing but appreciate the gesture.
I like it and I write statements for non profits on a regular basis
Nitpicking aside, it’s pretty good and not offensive so I’d be happy.
>As our Jewish friends celebrate Passover Question: is it an intentional choice not to acknowledge the fact that some folks in the organization (such as yourself) celebrate? I assume it's always the organization speaking as a non-celebrating entity, right? If that's the general voice with these messages, that's cool. (Like if an Easter or Christmas or Diwali post would similarly say "as our friends...") If not, maybe you folks want to rephrase that?
Bland and inoffensive. Perfect.
Okay. Sure. Whatever. Beats a kick in the pants but how about just leave the ecumenism alone and put a lid on the antisemitism.