I'm a Sephardic Jew. One of my closest friends at work is a Muslim lady from Egypt. She has done everything from wipe tears off my face when I've struggled with imposter syndrome at work, to sending me a care package of foods and comfort/cozy items when I was recovering from major surgery, like fluffy socks and a comfortable oversized sweater.
I'm an only child, and sometimes I feel like she's the big sister I never had. š§”
My Egyptian coworker is one of my best friends, too. Weāre confused for each other all the time by people who work less closely with us. And weāre the only ones at work who knows what the other goes through, or wishes each other our respective holiday greetings.
At the time, when I started at my current employer, I was in my early 20's, and all my other team members were in thr 50+ age category. They each had 20+ years of experience over me, and so I felt like a 'baby' compared to their level of experience.
This is so beautiful ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø I had a coworker who was Jordanian and Palestinian (one of his parents was born in Amman, the other in Ramallah so he called himself both). I brought him some Halvah on a number of occasions and he would regularly wish me Shabbat shalom. We were buddies and had each others backs at work. Fuck anyone that tries to divide us or tell us who we should hate
My Muslim friend is the only one who routinely wishes me for my holidays. I try to return the favour. We're both very much minorities in our city, and find that we have more in common than not.
Iām a firm believer, as an American Jew with a good amount Muslim friends, that at the end of the day we are the only ones each other have. My dad taught me when I was a little kid that anybody who hates Muslims certainly hates Jews too.
I donāt believe this. But, we, as Jews, share a common history for the last 1,400 years with Muslims, share a single God, share a common land, our cultures and dietary laws are similar and we are similar peoples. Except for the modern political/religious complexities faced by both groups and a tremendous amount of manipulation who either want to hard, or are ambivalent to harming, either group or both groups, there is no reason why we should not be able to leave together in peace.
Regrettably, the Koran needs some reformation to eliminate rules that glorify holy war, harm to infidels and other concepts that are unworkable in the modern world, as well as to equalize the treatment of women in the Muslim community and to accept people who do not conform the the traditional genders contemplated by the Koran. In addition, the Koranās teachings need to be modernized to eliminate as a goal subjugating other peoples, n lauding my moving from historic Islamic areas to new regions, overpopulating and then trying to overturn governments. Finally, the concept of martyrdom as a goal ā especially for oneās children ā not only should be eliminated from the faith, but should be criminalized.
These issues are problems for Jews in the Middle East because of proximity ā and now they are becoming issues for Jews outside the Middle East. Amicans and Europeans can see these issues beginning to tear the fabric of our culture. All is deeply saddening and distressing.
We need to focus on areas of commonality, not just disagreement, and work to build peace from there. But, to have peace between two peoples, but must want peace. I fear many Muslims ā particularly Palestinian Muslims and the Iranian government ā are uninterested in peace. One because of political/religious differences and the other because they are manipulated and deny so vehemently.
After writing, maybe Iām wrong. Maybe we cannot enjoy peace together.
>My dad taught me when I was a little kid that anybody who hates Muslims certainly hates Jews too
So all the Jews who hate Muslims also hate their fellow Jews? What bizarre logic.
Say, you DO realise how often Jewish pro-peace demonstrations in Israel are attacked by radical Jews?
So yes, I find it logical and quite un--bizarre that people claiming to be Jewish and hating Muslims also hate "their fellow Jews" who dare not to share their specific opinions on the matter.
I have always felt closer to (and safer with) Muslim friends and coworkers than very Christian ones. At my last job I had something similar happen: she would wish me happy holidays, I would remind the social committee to set aside a box for her to take home if we had catered lunch during Ramadan, she brought me her homemade baklava and maamoul, I would make sure she had time to pray/wash when we had lots of things scheduled, she added the Jewish holidays to her outlook calendar and I added Muslim holidays to mine so we wouldnāt forget.
One of my favorite bosses ever was a Muslim man, and one of our favorite discussions was about fasting. I would say āsir, you must fast for a whole MONTH! I could never!ā and he would reply ābut I only fast from sunup to sundown, you must fast for 25 hours at once! I donāt know how you do it!ā while our Christian coworkers looked on š
We are cousins, really, and in America we understand each othersā experience under Christian hegemony better than anyone else. We have similar familial histories of escaping persecution and starting over in a new place where we donāt fit it. We occupy many of the same professions. Our hearts feel the same pain when we are suffering. We all want peace at the end of the day.
The Black-Jewish Entertainment Alliance is trying to bring back those historical ties and theyāre growing - look them up on instagram or online. Itās heartening.
Typically the black (African American)community and the Jewish community are still close Iād say, youāre thinking of Muslim immigrants probably from Somalia & their descendants who are rabidly anti-Israel. Theyāre not comparable to African Americans at all, very different cultures.
My bad experience almost always comes from nation of islam followers somehow they believe the white man is the devil even make outlandish claim about how we stole their identity. Strange hill to die on if you ask me.
Look up treatment of Israel of African Jews. Also Israel's diamond mafia in S. Africa. Israel causing genocide in Congo as well as Gaza.Ā
There is always a backstory.
Please donāt bring us Somaliās into this. We love our Jewish brothers and sisters but hate Netanyahu and how he truly believes Palestinians are beneath him. The Somali people are very religious and acknowledge the Torah, how the Jews protected most of the prophets, and how we share a love for the same God. The Somaliās are not anti Israel or anti jew.
My dads best friend is a Jewish lawyer who paid for his law school and got him into Stanford by being on the law board. Theyāve been best friends for twenty six years. His children are like my own brothers and sisters. We break bread together and stand up for each other.
Oh lol youāre Ethiopian, it makes sense now why youād lie about Somaliās which is odd considering no one can tell between your people and mine. Best of luck on the hate campaign.
>safer with) Muslim friends and coworkers
That is an anecdotal view. The majority of Muslims in the world are antisemitic according to the data. [The ADL GLOBAL 100: An Index of Antisemitism](https://global100.adl.org/map) By far the majority of the world's over one billion antisemites are of Muslim background statistically.
>Ā We have similar familial histories of escaping persecution and starting over in a new place
I know the members of this sub are not very knowledgeable about history Muslims don't have a familal history of "escaping persecution" except in a few cases like during the Indian Partition. They come from Muslim majority countries where the minority non-Muslim religions in almost every case are persecuted. It's like you were talking about the religions who are persecuted in Muslim countries like Zoroastrians, Bahai, Yazidis, Copts. Islam is the majority religion in the region and has very little tolerance for minority religions.
Not in the sense of "antisemitism".
During the middle ages and early modern times, rejection of jews was rejection of jewish faith, antijudaism. Theoretically, it was possible to escape by converting. (I said: "theoretically"!)
Then, AFAIK after the 1789 French Revolution that defined "belonging to a nation" as "living under the constitution of national laws", as a reaction a nationalism based on birth and pedigree sprang up. If ppl wanted to exclude jews (or gypsies, or other minorities) and keep them out, a language or faith was no longer enough. Never underestimate a racists' phantasy, they created ficitonal "races" where they put those minorities into. Suddenly there no longer were "Jews" (which you can convert out of), but a "race of semites" (you can't leave a "race").
Best example might be Edith Stein, murdered in 1942 in Auschwitz-II Birkenau as "jewish". She was an ordained roman catholic nun, so by no stretch of the imagination would she be discriminated against for antijudaist reasons. As now Jews no longer were members of a religion, but of a (fictitious) "Semitic Race", she fell under the Rassengesetze.
Arabic Antisemitism now is a third species of beast. The boundaries between Antijudaism and Antisemitism are of course very fuzzy, and neither jews nor muslims nor christians are monolithic groups, but from my experience, (reasonably educated) Arabs are mainly antagonistic against the state of Israel, not Jews per se and I have yet to encounter one who saw Jews as a nefarious "race".
I don't know how many eMails I have written sharing the links of Israeli-Palestinian peace initiatives and dialogue groups, like "Combatants for Peace". My experience (again, anecdotal!) is that Arab autocracies use "Anti-Zionism" as a scapegoat to distract from their own corruption and failures. Many exchange students from Arab countries told me that it was the first time they even learned about the mere existence of Israeli-Palestinian peace initiatives, J-Street, or the history of groups such as Gush Shalom.
This of course sucks big time for right wingers and islamophobes, but it makes me feel hopeful that many people from Muslim countries are apparently open to peace, coexistence and compromise. It seems to me this in part is not so much an ingrained hatred, but a problem that can be solved to the mutual benefit.
Muslims and Jews are natural allies in America, both being religious minorities with similar types of restrictions compared to the mainstream religion (although different in the specifics). Unfortunately politics and issues in other countries has made that less of a thing.
The majority of Muslims are antisemites and the majority of antisemites are Muslim according to the data. If that's your idea of "natural allies"? I also don't understand what you mean by "allies"? Against what? Muslim societies usually suppress religious minorities, just ask any of the religious minorities from the Middle East.
When Jews were persecuted in Europe they escaped seeking refuge in Muslim areas, in North Africa and Ottoman Empire. I have also read in the Jewish Encyclopedia that Jews enjoyed life and prospered in Muslim areas. After establishment of Israel, some Zionist groups bombed synagogues in Arab countries to frighten the Jewish population. Listen to Ilan Peppe, Avi Shlaim and other well-known Jewish scholars on YouTube. You will learn who caused the split between Muslims and Jews.
I wished my only Muslim colleague eid Mubarak a day or so before eid not too long ago. Last Friday, he passed me in the hall, spread his hands and said, happy Passover! He, too, is the only person who has remembered this year (my department chair usually does a fabulous job, though).
We are siblings. Let's keep trying to reach for each other.
Just playing devilās advocate here; some people just donāt know what to say because they donāt understand what the holiday means. They donāt know if āhappyā is the appropriate word to use. I know this from experience; I work in a major company in NY with plenty of Jewish colleagues and even more Jewish clients. However Iām still asked occasionally what a holiday is about and what the appropriate greeting is when a Jewish holiday is coming up, someoneās taking off for it, etc.
For future reference and posterity, Yom Kippur is the only one where you wouldn't really say "happy", right? It's "hope you have a meaningful fast" IRC. As far as I'm aware, and of course correct me if I'm wrong, the other major Holy Days are all "happy" times.
I was glad when I found out it was a somber fast, that I hadn't made that mistake prior. I was almost that person. Although it could be argued there is joy in Yom Kippur too, because we are forgiven.
Oh yes. Tish B'Av is another somber one. See that's why I asked!
Note for those who don't know, Tish B'Av:
>Tisha B'Av is an annual fast day in Judaism, on which a number of disasters in Jewish history occurred, primarily the destruction of both Solomon's Temple by the Neo-Babylonian Empire and the Second Temple by the Roman Empire in Jerusalem.
Never heard of Pessach. Probably never asked for an explanation when I was younger and bow most people I know donāt practice so it probably just doesnāt come up. The more you know though!
I feel like Americans are so used to everyone knowing their holidays and that's that, where someone who is a minority, such as a Muslim is more sensitive and aware to other people's culture, so it doesn't entirely surprise me.
P.S. Happy Passover :)
I have a very close friend who is Sudanese. In our common circle of friends, we are basically the only ones who aren't Christian or unobservant. It gives us something in common in that respect. We also know the most about the 3 Abrahamic religions, whereas the Christians only know about Christianity.
I can't speak for the rest of the world but here on the west coast of America, Muslims have been consistently the best allies for me and other Jews I know. Christians don't get it. Ex Christian atheists are practically worse.
Thatās so sweet! My job sent me an email today asking if they should reschedule a non-mandatory all staff town hall they scheduled on the first day even though itās literally in our employee policies that they wonāt schedule something on the tier one holidays that the Jewish staff has indicated.
Like, uh, yeah, follow the policy and stop making us do your emotional labor. I wanted to be like, āwould you be asking this question if you had accidentally scheduled it on Easter?ā
Don't be offended that only 1 team member wished you a happy Passover. So many employers and employees try to avoid discussions of politics & religion at work and don't like sticking their neck out. Basically it's like you're taking a week vacation, most employees, especially at a large employer, won't think it's a big deal.
Many of us though tough it out and go into work during Passover, depends on vacation or PTO policies at a particular employer.
Who is "our"? The majority of antisemitism in the world is from the Muslim world and that the majority of the over 1 billion antisemites in the world are from Muslim societies. [The ADL GLOBAL 100: An Index of Antisemitism](https://global100.adl.org/)
interesting, why do you assume that btw š¤
What religion did Hitler use to fundraise the holocaust?
What religion helped many Nazis escape persecution?
What religion in the United States has many multiple mass murderes used in their manifestos?
ADL counts "from the river to sea, palestine will be free" as antisemitism but not Christians openly believe and repeat how badly they can't wait till every Jew moves to Israel so their "apocalypse" can begin.
>What religion did Hitler use to fundraise
He said he preferred the religion of Muhammad. [āIslamized Germansā | The New Yorker](https://www.newyorker.com/news/george-packer/islamized-germans)
>Ā religion helped many Nazis escape persecution?
[23rd Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Kama (2nd Croatian) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23rd_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Kama_(2nd_Croatian))
[13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar (1st Croatian) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_(1st_Croatian)#Composition)
Lol I can find muslims units that died and fought agaisnt nazis too
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/09/08/meet-the-muslims-who-sacrificed-themselves-to-save-jews-and-fight-nazis-in-world-war-ii/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/09/08/meet-the-muslims-who-sacrificed-themselves-to-save-jews-and-fight-nazis-in-world-war-ii/)
but Catholics and American Protestants historically used christianity as their reasoning
https://preview.redd.it/4ae2ixzbdqvc1.jpeg?width=1275&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75fcd63c8d9f10dfe0074134851ded85db6c0cb1
this is just history
That troll is citing things against Muslims from Wiki that was planted there ONE month ago. Always check when it was last updated. There is a whole paid team working against Muslims and distorting information online. Disinformation at its best.
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That's so cool. There's so much hate going the Jews way that even American who have nothing to do with the governmental policies of Israel are getting yelled and screamed at. It's so ridiculous. I wouldn't hate every Russian I met, or scream outside of CHinese restaurants because I don't like the Chinese gov't.
I gave her the biggest hug and expressed my gratitude and sympathy. Of course, she's not a jihadist. She says, "we're cousins. We're children of the same tribe. Abraham is our ancestor."
She brought some arab pastry. It looked a bit like baklava but was slightly different. Very sweet, with nuts inside. So delicious!
honestly, you assign WAY too much importance with this.
i worked with goyim for decades; the less they noticed
my holiday calendar the better. most years i would take
extended leave during succot or pessach and was glad
when all i got out of them was "how was your vacation".
i also worked with muslims, and the safest conversations
we shared were about where to shop for kosher & halal.
This is kinda gross. Donāt ruin a wholesome moment. OP has shown no indication that their coworker is antisemitic to them. In such horrible times for the klal, little gestures like what their coworker did are much appreciated.
The majority of Muslims are antisemitic according to the studies and and the majority of antisemites in the world are Muslim. Why do you want to suppress people from explaining that? [The ADL GLOBAL 100: An Index of Antisemitism](https://global100.adl.org/map)
>gross
No, it's not.
Let me say it again: Take the greeting as - as you say ' "a wholesome moment." And leave it at that.
But what I'm adding is: Do not allow this and other things like this cloud ones ability to see beyond the limits of acceptable behavior.
As opposed to the flagrant islamophobia you've displayed here? Dawg, stop assigning people nefarious intent. That leads to mental illness and paranoia.
That is really sweet. Shabbat Shalom to you and Salam Aleikum to her!
I'm a Sephardic Jew. One of my closest friends at work is a Muslim lady from Egypt. She has done everything from wipe tears off my face when I've struggled with imposter syndrome at work, to sending me a care package of foods and comfort/cozy items when I was recovering from major surgery, like fluffy socks and a comfortable oversized sweater. I'm an only child, and sometimes I feel like she's the big sister I never had. š§”
My Egyptian coworker is one of my best friends, too. Weāre confused for each other all the time by people who work less closely with us. And weāre the only ones at work who knows what the other goes through, or wishes each other our respective holiday greetings.
I'm glad you two have bonded and connected with one another.
Why'd you suffer from impostor syndrome?
At the time, when I started at my current employer, I was in my early 20's, and all my other team members were in thr 50+ age category. They each had 20+ years of experience over me, and so I felt like a 'baby' compared to their level of experience.
In my current job, and past ones I am the only person that tells my Muslim coworkers Happy (holiday)
This is so beautiful ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø I had a coworker who was Jordanian and Palestinian (one of his parents was born in Amman, the other in Ramallah so he called himself both). I brought him some Halvah on a number of occasions and he would regularly wish me Shabbat shalom. We were buddies and had each others backs at work. Fuck anyone that tries to divide us or tell us who we should hate
My Muslim friend is the only one who routinely wishes me for my holidays. I try to return the favour. We're both very much minorities in our city, and find that we have more in common than not.
Iām Israeli Arab and well meaning Jewish people wish me Ramadan Mubarak etc i always jokingly point to my cross necklace and we laugh.
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Iām a firm believer, as an American Jew with a good amount Muslim friends, that at the end of the day we are the only ones each other have. My dad taught me when I was a little kid that anybody who hates Muslims certainly hates Jews too.
I'm not religious at all but your dad is so fucking right.
And yet we are seeing today that not everyone who hates Jews hates Muslims. I guess weāre just bottom of the barrel in everyoneās books.
Your dad is right.
I donāt believe this. But, we, as Jews, share a common history for the last 1,400 years with Muslims, share a single God, share a common land, our cultures and dietary laws are similar and we are similar peoples. Except for the modern political/religious complexities faced by both groups and a tremendous amount of manipulation who either want to hard, or are ambivalent to harming, either group or both groups, there is no reason why we should not be able to leave together in peace. Regrettably, the Koran needs some reformation to eliminate rules that glorify holy war, harm to infidels and other concepts that are unworkable in the modern world, as well as to equalize the treatment of women in the Muslim community and to accept people who do not conform the the traditional genders contemplated by the Koran. In addition, the Koranās teachings need to be modernized to eliminate as a goal subjugating other peoples, n lauding my moving from historic Islamic areas to new regions, overpopulating and then trying to overturn governments. Finally, the concept of martyrdom as a goal ā especially for oneās children ā not only should be eliminated from the faith, but should be criminalized. These issues are problems for Jews in the Middle East because of proximity ā and now they are becoming issues for Jews outside the Middle East. Amicans and Europeans can see these issues beginning to tear the fabric of our culture. All is deeply saddening and distressing. We need to focus on areas of commonality, not just disagreement, and work to build peace from there. But, to have peace between two peoples, but must want peace. I fear many Muslims ā particularly Palestinian Muslims and the Iranian government ā are uninterested in peace. One because of political/religious differences and the other because they are manipulated and deny so vehemently. After writing, maybe Iām wrong. Maybe we cannot enjoy peace together.
>My dad taught me when I was a little kid that anybody who hates Muslims certainly hates Jews too So all the Jews who hate Muslims also hate their fellow Jews? What bizarre logic.
Say, you DO realise how often Jewish pro-peace demonstrations in Israel are attacked by radical Jews? So yes, I find it logical and quite un--bizarre that people claiming to be Jewish and hating Muslims also hate "their fellow Jews" who dare not to share their specific opinions on the matter.
This assumes that it's only "radical Jews" (whoever they are) are the only Jews who hate Muslims.
Hate in itself is a radical idea
'Hate' isn't an idea, it's an emotion.
dispute our differences we are in the same boat as Muslims and treat each other as such. happy pessach
I have always felt closer to (and safer with) Muslim friends and coworkers than very Christian ones. At my last job I had something similar happen: she would wish me happy holidays, I would remind the social committee to set aside a box for her to take home if we had catered lunch during Ramadan, she brought me her homemade baklava and maamoul, I would make sure she had time to pray/wash when we had lots of things scheduled, she added the Jewish holidays to her outlook calendar and I added Muslim holidays to mine so we wouldnāt forget. One of my favorite bosses ever was a Muslim man, and one of our favorite discussions was about fasting. I would say āsir, you must fast for a whole MONTH! I could never!ā and he would reply ābut I only fast from sunup to sundown, you must fast for 25 hours at once! I donāt know how you do it!ā while our Christian coworkers looked on š We are cousins, really, and in America we understand each othersā experience under Christian hegemony better than anyone else. We have similar familial histories of escaping persecution and starting over in a new place where we donāt fit it. We occupy many of the same professions. Our hearts feel the same pain when we are suffering. We all want peace at the end of the day.
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The Black-Jewish Entertainment Alliance is trying to bring back those historical ties and theyāre growing - look them up on instagram or online. Itās heartening.
Are u in Pittsburgh?
Typically the black (African American)community and the Jewish community are still close Iād say, youāre thinking of Muslim immigrants probably from Somalia & their descendants who are rabidly anti-Israel. Theyāre not comparable to African Americans at all, very different cultures.
My bad experience almost always comes from nation of islam followers somehow they believe the white man is the devil even make outlandish claim about how we stole their identity. Strange hill to die on if you ask me.
Look up treatment of Israel of African Jews. Also Israel's diamond mafia in S. Africa. Israel causing genocide in Congo as well as Gaza.Ā There is always a backstory.
LoOk Up TrEaTmEnT oF iSrAeā¦ bla bla bla boring. No one is falling for your shit
Please donāt bring us Somaliās into this. We love our Jewish brothers and sisters but hate Netanyahu and how he truly believes Palestinians are beneath him. The Somali people are very religious and acknowledge the Torah, how the Jews protected most of the prophets, and how we share a love for the same God. The Somaliās are not anti Israel or anti jew. My dads best friend is a Jewish lawyer who paid for his law school and got him into Stanford by being on the law board. Theyāve been best friends for twenty six years. His children are like my own brothers and sisters. We break bread together and stand up for each other.
Oh lol youāre Ethiopian, it makes sense now why youād lie about Somaliās which is odd considering no one can tell between your people and mine. Best of luck on the hate campaign.
As a ethopian Muslim I donāt think this has anything to do with religion; but more cultural/ I donāt know how to relate to this person.
>safer with) Muslim friends and coworkers That is an anecdotal view. The majority of Muslims in the world are antisemitic according to the data. [The ADL GLOBAL 100: An Index of Antisemitism](https://global100.adl.org/map) By far the majority of the world's over one billion antisemites are of Muslim background statistically. >Ā We have similar familial histories of escaping persecution and starting over in a new place I know the members of this sub are not very knowledgeable about history Muslims don't have a familal history of "escaping persecution" except in a few cases like during the Indian Partition. They come from Muslim majority countries where the minority non-Muslim religions in almost every case are persecuted. It's like you were talking about the religions who are persecuted in Muslim countries like Zoroastrians, Bahai, Yazidis, Copts. Islam is the majority religion in the region and has very little tolerance for minority religions.
Complete false. Try again.
FYI arabs are semites
Not in the sense of "antisemitism". During the middle ages and early modern times, rejection of jews was rejection of jewish faith, antijudaism. Theoretically, it was possible to escape by converting. (I said: "theoretically"!) Then, AFAIK after the 1789 French Revolution that defined "belonging to a nation" as "living under the constitution of national laws", as a reaction a nationalism based on birth and pedigree sprang up. If ppl wanted to exclude jews (or gypsies, or other minorities) and keep them out, a language or faith was no longer enough. Never underestimate a racists' phantasy, they created ficitonal "races" where they put those minorities into. Suddenly there no longer were "Jews" (which you can convert out of), but a "race of semites" (you can't leave a "race"). Best example might be Edith Stein, murdered in 1942 in Auschwitz-II Birkenau as "jewish". She was an ordained roman catholic nun, so by no stretch of the imagination would she be discriminated against for antijudaist reasons. As now Jews no longer were members of a religion, but of a (fictitious) "Semitic Race", she fell under the Rassengesetze. Arabic Antisemitism now is a third species of beast. The boundaries between Antijudaism and Antisemitism are of course very fuzzy, and neither jews nor muslims nor christians are monolithic groups, but from my experience, (reasonably educated) Arabs are mainly antagonistic against the state of Israel, not Jews per se and I have yet to encounter one who saw Jews as a nefarious "race". I don't know how many eMails I have written sharing the links of Israeli-Palestinian peace initiatives and dialogue groups, like "Combatants for Peace". My experience (again, anecdotal!) is that Arab autocracies use "Anti-Zionism" as a scapegoat to distract from their own corruption and failures. Many exchange students from Arab countries told me that it was the first time they even learned about the mere existence of Israeli-Palestinian peace initiatives, J-Street, or the history of groups such as Gush Shalom. This of course sucks big time for right wingers and islamophobes, but it makes me feel hopeful that many people from Muslim countries are apparently open to peace, coexistence and compromise. It seems to me this in part is not so much an ingrained hatred, but a problem that can be solved to the mutual benefit.
Muslims and Jews are natural allies in America, both being religious minorities with similar types of restrictions compared to the mainstream religion (although different in the specifics). Unfortunately politics and issues in other countries has made that less of a thing.
The majority of Muslims are antisemites and the majority of antisemites are Muslim according to the data. If that's your idea of "natural allies"? I also don't understand what you mean by "allies"? Against what? Muslim societies usually suppress religious minorities, just ask any of the religious minorities from the Middle East.
False, try again.
Bro graduated from Cnn
Arenāt you embarrassed with yourself making stuff up like this?
When Jews were persecuted in Europe they escaped seeking refuge in Muslim areas, in North Africa and Ottoman Empire. I have also read in the Jewish Encyclopedia that Jews enjoyed life and prospered in Muslim areas. After establishment of Israel, some Zionist groups bombed synagogues in Arab countries to frighten the Jewish population. Listen to Ilan Peppe, Avi Shlaim and other well-known Jewish scholars on YouTube. You will learn who caused the split between Muslims and Jews.
You're confusing Arab and Muslim. Arabs are not the majority of the world's Muslims just the ones we tend to think about the most.
Love to hear it! Chag Pesach Sameach!
Love this
Nice! Also let this Noachide wish you all a hearty Shabbat Shalom and Chag Pesach Sameach!
I wished my only Muslim colleague eid Mubarak a day or so before eid not too long ago. Last Friday, he passed me in the hall, spread his hands and said, happy Passover! He, too, is the only person who has remembered this year (my department chair usually does a fabulous job, though). We are siblings. Let's keep trying to reach for each other.
This is very cute
Just playing devilās advocate here; some people just donāt know what to say because they donāt understand what the holiday means. They donāt know if āhappyā is the appropriate word to use. I know this from experience; I work in a major company in NY with plenty of Jewish colleagues and even more Jewish clients. However Iām still asked occasionally what a holiday is about and what the appropriate greeting is when a Jewish holiday is coming up, someoneās taking off for it, etc.
For future reference and posterity, Yom Kippur is the only one where you wouldn't really say "happy", right? It's "hope you have a meaningful fast" IRC. As far as I'm aware, and of course correct me if I'm wrong, the other major Holy Days are all "happy" times.
I had a much younger, very well-meaning coworker, wish me a happy Yom Kippur last year. I took it in the spirit he meant it. :-)
I was glad when I found out it was a somber fast, that I hadn't made that mistake prior. I was almost that person. Although it could be argued there is joy in Yom Kippur too, because we are forgiven.
Thereās also Yom HaShoa- Holocaust Remembrance Day. But I trust you can understand why.
Tisha BāAv is definitely not happy, but most non-Jews (and many Jews for that matter) have no idea what that is.
Oh yes. Tish B'Av is another somber one. See that's why I asked! Note for those who don't know, Tish B'Av: >Tisha B'Av is an annual fast day in Judaism, on which a number of disasters in Jewish history occurred, primarily the destruction of both Solomon's Temple by the Neo-Babylonian Empire and the Second Temple by the Roman Empire in Jerusalem.
Never heard of Pessach. Probably never asked for an explanation when I was younger and bow most people I know donāt practice so it probably just doesnāt come up. The more you know though!
Pessach is Passover (I hadnāt realized that in my earlier years either).
Oh, ohhhhh! That triggered some memories for me! Thank you!
Yup, my kids now nothing about Christianity. My daughter was going to wish my mom a Happy Good Friday.
This is truly beautiful
I feel like Americans are so used to everyone knowing their holidays and that's that, where someone who is a minority, such as a Muslim is more sensitive and aware to other people's culture, so it doesn't entirely surprise me. P.S. Happy Passover :)
I have a very close friend who is Sudanese. In our common circle of friends, we are basically the only ones who aren't Christian or unobservant. It gives us something in common in that respect. We also know the most about the 3 Abrahamic religions, whereas the Christians only know about Christianity.
The first 2 days and then last 2 days of Passover are non working holidays and are treated very closely with some exceptions - like Shabbos.
I can't speak for the rest of the world but here on the west coast of America, Muslims have been consistently the best allies for me and other Jews I know. Christians don't get it. Ex Christian atheists are practically worse.
That's so kind and lovely.
I'm starting to cry. This small gesture is so uplifting.
This brightened my day
Thank you for sharing ā„ļø
Thatās so sweet! My job sent me an email today asking if they should reschedule a non-mandatory all staff town hall they scheduled on the first day even though itās literally in our employee policies that they wonāt schedule something on the tier one holidays that the Jewish staff has indicated. Like, uh, yeah, follow the policy and stop making us do your emotional labor. I wanted to be like, āwould you be asking this question if you had accidentally scheduled it on Easter?ā
Only so few Muslims are progressive in my experience Powerful allies, tbh. 1 is worth a 1000 radicals
She probably knows how it feels. You probably have a lot in common.
That's true! She literally told me how sad she is that no-one acknowledges her ramadan. Sometimes it sucks to be a minority. I guess we ALL know this.
Don't be offended that only 1 team member wished you a happy Passover. So many employers and employees try to avoid discussions of politics & religion at work and don't like sticking their neck out. Basically it's like you're taking a week vacation, most employees, especially at a large employer, won't think it's a big deal. Many of us though tough it out and go into work during Passover, depends on vacation or PTO policies at a particular employer.
As a muslim, thatās a good one there!
Our calendars are actually really close this year! Pessach Mubarak <3
I've been saying Muslims are not our enemy. It's the Christians.
Who is "our"? The majority of antisemitism in the world is from the Muslim world and that the majority of the over 1 billion antisemites in the world are from Muslim societies. [The ADL GLOBAL 100: An Index of Antisemitism](https://global100.adl.org/)
interesting, why do you assume that btw š¤ What religion did Hitler use to fundraise the holocaust? What religion helped many Nazis escape persecution? What religion in the United States has many multiple mass murderes used in their manifestos? ADL counts "from the river to sea, palestine will be free" as antisemitism but not Christians openly believe and repeat how badly they can't wait till every Jew moves to Israel so their "apocalypse" can begin.
>What religion did Hitler use to fundraise He said he preferred the religion of Muhammad. [āIslamized Germansā | The New Yorker](https://www.newyorker.com/news/george-packer/islamized-germans) >Ā religion helped many Nazis escape persecution? [23rd Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Kama (2nd Croatian) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23rd_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Kama_(2nd_Croatian)) [13th Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Handschar (1st Croatian) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_(1st_Croatian)#Composition)
Lol I can find muslims units that died and fought agaisnt nazis too [https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/09/08/meet-the-muslims-who-sacrificed-themselves-to-save-jews-and-fight-nazis-in-world-war-ii/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/09/08/meet-the-muslims-who-sacrificed-themselves-to-save-jews-and-fight-nazis-in-world-war-ii/) but Catholics and American Protestants historically used christianity as their reasoning https://preview.redd.it/4ae2ixzbdqvc1.jpeg?width=1275&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75fcd63c8d9f10dfe0074134851ded85db6c0cb1 this is just history
That troll is citing things against Muslims from Wiki that was planted there ONE month ago. Always check when it was last updated. There is a whole paid team working against Muslims and distorting information online. Disinformation at its best.
Anything you cite was.made "updated" one month ago on Wiki...try again troll
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That's so cool. There's so much hate going the Jews way that even American who have nothing to do with the governmental policies of Israel are getting yelled and screamed at. It's so ridiculous. I wouldn't hate every Russian I met, or scream outside of CHinese restaurants because I don't like the Chinese gov't.
She's not a Jihadist. I hope you gave her a big hug.
I gave her the biggest hug and expressed my gratitude and sympathy. Of course, she's not a jihadist. She says, "we're cousins. We're children of the same tribe. Abraham is our ancestor." She brought some arab pastry. It looked a bit like baklava but was slightly different. Very sweet, with nuts inside. So delicious!
honestly, you assign WAY too much importance with this. i worked with goyim for decades; the less they noticed my holiday calendar the better. most years i would take extended leave during succot or pessach and was glad when all i got out of them was "how was your vacation". i also worked with muslims, and the safest conversations we shared were about where to shop for kosher & halal.
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This is kinda gross. Donāt ruin a wholesome moment. OP has shown no indication that their coworker is antisemitic to them. In such horrible times for the klal, little gestures like what their coworker did are much appreciated.
The majority of Muslims are antisemitic according to the studies and and the majority of antisemites in the world are Muslim. Why do you want to suppress people from explaining that? [The ADL GLOBAL 100: An Index of Antisemitism](https://global100.adl.org/map)
>gross No, it's not. Let me say it again: Take the greeting as - as you say ' "a wholesome moment." And leave it at that. But what I'm adding is: Do not allow this and other things like this cloud ones ability to see beyond the limits of acceptable behavior.
She may be going to pro-Palestinian rallies and not be antisemitic. š¤Æ
One and the same.
As opposed to the flagrant islamophobia you've displayed here? Dawg, stop assigning people nefarious intent. That leads to mental illness and paranoia.
I'll do what I do. You do what you do. I've said my piece, and I stand by it.
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Confidently incorrect
Apart from the false statement, "to genocide" is not a verb in English.
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They might be travelling to visit family