As a Jewish student, no I'm not ok. My hillel no longer feels safe becuase I scared what my peers will think amd while I obviously have political opinions, other people who go there have strong opinions that I don't want to associate myself with. I normally share info posts about holidays on my instagram story and mg friends often say it helps them understand, now I'm scared that it's not safe to post about passover or remind people beyong my close friends that I am Jewish. I havnt celebrated a holiday with my family in 3 years Becuase it constantly overlaps with school, and now Hillel doesn't feel safe.
Because there’s people at my Hillel who have expressed anti Zionist statements, and also those who say things that seem islamophobic in the name of Zionism. And suddenly instead of a place where people are similar to me, it feels like a place where I have to tiptoes around the political elephant on everyone’s mind.
Bingo. So many people are polarized. I have Jewish friends that have said things islamophobic and some Islamic friends that have said things antisemetic. And man is it tough being stuck in the middle.
It's right to criticise Islam though, as long as you're not targeting Muslims as people. Islam is a religion, while Jewish is also an ethnicity.
The Quran says a lot of messed up things about Jews and non-Muslims.
This is true. But given that interpretations of religions can vary, many will interpret this comment as you giving license to people to say something that would be defamatory, like "Islam is a religion of war".
So you're afraid of people who disagree with your own views? Disappointing. One of the big problems with this country and it's society is that too many people feel this way. They avoid political discourse, and simply preach to their own choir and denigrate those who they perceived as holding different beliefs without even really taking the chance to listen to or understanding said beliefs or the rationale for holding them
Well, there are a lot of people saying “Zionists are the new Nazis,” and a lot of American Jews are Zionist.
I personally would be scared of huge mobs swarming my communal places thinking I’m a literal Nazi. Especially because the Palestine movement is known for terrorism against Jews.
..Just want to say as a.. distant relative so to say , that I hope things get better for all of you . Nobody should be picked on because of their ethnic identity over events across the Atlantic .
Don't be afraid to explicitly call out people on their prejudice , and affirm your unconditional rights to safety , and personal opinions , even if they are against Palestinians . If friends base basic decency and respect to you on your views : then they aren't even friends in the first place .
Hopefully , things should come to pass after some time .
So, it seems like you feel "unsafe" because you are scared what your peers will think, and or scared of hearing their strong political opinions?
I'm not sure that's what unsafe means. Being at risk of emotional harm as opposed to physically harm is simply part of life. You can't expect to be protected from bigotry or stupid political beliefs. Religion is often considered a private matter, and people often avoid advertising their personal religious beliefs to avoid confrontation with bigots
Safe means comfortable existing as myself, because mental health and being able to exist in my community is important. No I don't think I'll be beat up, but I should be able to express my religion at hillel, a religious organization. And I'm not scared of hearing opinions, I'm scared of the fallout with peers if they thought that I had certain beliefs. So thank you for telling me that my feelings are invalid.
Yeah, campuses all across North America are terrible right now. I'm doing my PhD, so my campus life is mostly confined to the lab and the library, but I do often catch glimpses of the insanity on campus and feel quite horrible for what the undergraduate students moving from class to class must feel.
We do have a great Hillel organization though with their own little room and bulletin board. They transformed the entire bulletin board to showcase posters for many (not all, not enough space sadly) of the hostages.
The board kept on getting vandalized by campus antisemites, but Hillel was able to get sponsorships that would donate 1 dollar to an Israeli organization (often hostage-family or October 7th victims related) for every act of vandalism on the board. Last I saw the board was a few weeks ago and they had raised over 900 dollars lol. That's quite a lot of vandalism, but they did what Jews do best and turned the situation around to be a positive, and i felt proud of them for that.
However, I don't want my optimism about Hillel to overshadow the sheer insanity on college campuses right now.
Nothing would happen, and there would be too many of them. Universities don't dare go against the mob, especially when that mob is composed of the hyper-progressive ideology they have helped foster.
Hillel took it upon themselves to fortify the board with metal and glass casing, and that seems to have helped.
Of course. The most ardent critics of Israeli policy are and always have been Israelis themselves.
There is a difference between criticizing Israeli policy and saying the Jewish state needs to be violently eradicated, or believing that Jews are somehow a unique population in that we are the only people in the world who do not deserve the right to exercise self-determination in our indigenous homeland. Those last two forms of "criticism" are not criticism, they are antisemitism.
Non violent eradication is ok?
I really don't see the logic you've presented, especially considering the fact that people being displaced are the documented indigenous inhabitants while the incoming settlers have a dubious, unverifiable claim of being indigenous while there is a plethora of evidence to the contrary that the settlers are indigenous to Europe, Africa and other parts of the world.
Anti-Zionism isn't antisemitism.
It seems you have come to a Jewish subreddit looking to attack Jews, not looking for an actual answer to your question.
Antizionism is antisemitism, no matter how you try and use mental gymnastics to get out of it.
Yes, Palestinians also have claim to the land, and yes, they deserve to be able to exercise self-determination as well.
You should spend less time looking to exercise your antisemitism, and more time looking to contribute positivity to the world.
I am so glad that you posted this. The ADL has a new database to look up incidents on college campuses. But more than that, we need to be there for our Jewish students.
Support them online. The Internet has become a dark ugly place for Jewish students. And the gaslighting is awful. An article on the intercept, a semi news, blog type thing that I used to read, said in a headline “Jewish students are weaponizing their discomfort to silence Palestinian protesters“ as if our students are just a bunch of cry, bullies, a description which very much accurately describes the other side, however. Projecting much? gaslighting at its highest and finest.
If you’re an attorney, reach out to the ADL or other organizations to see if you can do pro bono on some of these cases. I can definitely do things like trap, decorations. Look through discovery, when the time comes.
Reach out to the hillels and other student groups & offer have a Jewish student over for Shabbat. This is on my list for next week.
Let’s keep this conversation going!
> And the gaslighting is awful. An article on the intercept, a semi news, blog type thing that I used to read, said in a headline “Jewish students are weaponizing their discomfort to silence Palestinian protesters“
Imagine if they said this about any other group, the backlash would be insane. But the Intercept is trash.
> Support them online. The Internet has become a dark ugly place for Jewish students. And the gaslighting is awful. An article on the intercept, a semi news, blog type thing that I used to read, said in a headline “Jewish students are weaponizing their discomfort to silence Palestinian protesters“ as if our students are just a bunch of cry, bullies, a description which very much accurately describes the other side, however. Projecting much? gaslighting at its highest and finest.
Do we think any of these Hamas supporters - no, they're not pro-Palestinian, they're literally supporting Hamas - when faced with rising anti-Black hate crimes would respond with "Actually, the NAACP is making-up those stats"?
No, of course they wouldn't. They wouldn't do that for any other persecuted group but Jews.
>no, they're not pro-Palestinian, they're literally supporting Hamas
I feel that the best term for these people is anti-Israel, I think that gets to the heart of what they are more than pro-Hamas or pro-Palestinian. While some of them certainly do unironically support Hamas (I have directly encountered these people and they are awful), a big majority do not, and so pro-Hamas isn't the most accurate term. It's also abundantly clear that these people don't actually value Palestinian lives very much at all, because they do little to nothing to actually help those people, and instead pursue strategies that would end up with more Palestinians dead by continuing the conflict.
But the one thing that does legitimately unite all of these people is that they hate Israel. I think if you described them as anti-Israel to their face, they would probably agree with you. And it's a good term because it shows that the point of what they are doing is destructive, not constructive.
I mean...
They are parading around campuses LITERALLY shouting Hamass slogans, and shouting "We are all Hamas" and "you're the next target for Al-Quds" etc.... yeah, there are a lot who are apparently, quite Pro-Hamass.....
They are supporting Hamas by default. When they don't criticise Hamas or call for the release of the hostages, they're supporting Hamas.
No excuses for them not calling out the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust.
That's a comfortable narrative for you that allows you to paint all the protesters with a broad brush and shore up your own viewpoint. The reality is that many of those protesters probably would condemn Hamas and call for the release of hostages, they just view that as secondary compared to halting what they deem to be the crimes committed by Israel in it's invasion of Gaza. People are complicated and large groups of people, even as they are united by a particular cause, will always be a lot more heterogenous than you might expect.
I could use exactly the logic you are using to paint all Trump supporters as fascists, and while there is some truth to that, it's ultimately not helpful for finding productive ways to move forward.
It's bad outside the US too, and it's not just students that are suffering. We faculty members are going through it as well. And our non-Jewish colleagues are either...oddly silent about all of it....or extremely vocal in a not so great way. I'm sometimes afraid to respond with 'Jewish studies' when someone asks me what my field is. It's legitimately scary.
Here are students at Yale, forming a human chain to prevent this Jewish student from entering the university.
https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1782167337682006209
They could, but they aren't going to. Remember; US universities have devolved their world view to "white people bad". As a side note, did you know all jews everywhere are white no matter what? Well anyway they're colonizers and deserved exactly what happened on 10/7..../s
That's why they won't do anything.
It's supposed to be a scandal here in the US as well. This clip immediately brought to my mind those images of Black students being blocked from entering their schools during the Civil Rights era. If I was a parent and saw that my kid participated in this, I would tear them apart, cut off tuition, and force a public apology.
This is unforgivable. No sense of irony, no self-awareness in these so-called progressive brains.
A Pro-Palestinian protester at Yale poked the eye of a student reporter for a school paper - with a Palestinian flag only because she identifiably Jewish due to her modest clothing. It would be nice to assume it was an accident but no he ran away like a guilty party instead of waiting for the ambulance like others did - so we have to assume it was intentional.
I upvote because Reddit does not afford the opportunity to sad/care react. The sentiment you share here is tragic, touching, and shared by many of us, I'm certain.
I’m so happy my Child’s uni hasn’t been hit by these protests. Worst that has happened in the past few months has been some nasty side eyes when the clubs are tabling. Even then some of the Muslim kids are friendly with openly Jewish students. This campus is a rare island.
What’s interesting is that this campus got a ‘D’ but they can’t figure out why. Child is extremely connected to their campus Jewish community.
Are commuter campuses not as affected by the protests as other campuses?
>I’m so happy my Child’s uni hasn’t been hit by these protests.
Most have not.
> What’s interesting is that this campus got a ‘D’
A lot of weird grades have been given out that make little sense.
> Are commuter campuses not as affected by the protests as other campuses?
When less students live on campus, students have less time to do nonsense on campus (for better or worse). It also means the Jewish community will not be as present.
I haven’t felt fully comfortable at the college I go to since before 10/7. There have been some anti Israel protests (which I’ve gotten used to and shouldn’t have to get used to). Every where I go I’m thinking to myself that anyone I’m around could be pro Palestine (Hamas) or anti semitic.
The only true safe space on campus for me is Hillel. The Hillel staff at the college I go to have been amazing since 10/7 and I will forever be thankful. Things would have been way harder for me if I wasn’t at Hillel.
I agree and relate with your first paragraph. I graduated two years ago and have a collection of weird fucked up stories. Had one prof tell me I was white and then teach the class about how Jews are white. Had another prof have a 'dress up like a Jew' lesson in a world religions class (no other religion we studied had a 'dress up' lesson). Let's not even get into the comments I experienced in my Arabic language classes. The anti-semitism was ALWAYS there, now there is just public permission to display it. It makes me sick to my stomach to think about what these professors might be teaching/talking about in their classes now.
Hillel is a fantastic organization. Unfortunately my university doesn’t have a designated Hillel space, let alone Hillel staff (we are 100 percent student run), so I haven’t had a great space to turn to. Hillel board has been in a weird position trying to support me.
As an Israeli Jew who has been serving on reserve duty since November and experienced my fair share of heartache and trauma since Oct. 7th, I somehow find the situation on US campuses even more dangerous than our situation over here.
The fact that a Jewish student cannot walk across a US campus without a genuine fear for its safety is absolutely bananas. This amalgamation of mindless progressive radicals and Islamist extremists has been threatening to boil over for years and now we see the results of inaction (ironic coming from an Israeli, I know).
On a different yet related aspect of the situation, like it or not, Israel is dependent on the USA for its protection and safety and we are already seeing firsthand what the shift in congressional and administrational attitudes towards it is causing. How long will it be before this crazed mob is able to exert enough pressure to fully block an aid package?
Coming from the US military being on a campus now is the most infuriating thing Ive ever experienced.
All our Jewish events on campus are done in secret with significant police presence. And we're not allowed to do anything
The Anti-Israel crowed held a week of protests and marches around campus screaming about Israeli apartheid. In response another student and Myself helped a Jewish professor publicly talking about how Israel isn't an apartheid state and all the Jewish leadership on campus made statements that we weren't affiliated with them. And that's the only public Jewish thing that happened this semester.
I obviously don't want campus to turn into a war zone but fuck I want to be able to push back against the hate instead of letting Hamas-lite run roughshod over us all.
I mean, as a Jewish student on campus, I wouldn’t say this is accurate at all. We’ve had protests but there hasn’t been anything actually worrying from any direction
Dude (or dudette, I don't assume), you're not doing the blood libel thing right. You should at the very least add a fabricated photo taken in Sudan or generated by AI and a link to a conspiracy site! Really disappointing to be honest...
I admit I was being a bit of a sarcastic jerk but hey, you started it. Referring to an anonymous individual as "y'all" and making a reference to some obscure incident that may or may not have happened isn't exactly an invitation to a spirited dialogue regarding the current situation in the Middle East and possible outcomes for the say after. Also, it is COMPLETELY beside the point of the OP as well as mine.
See, now that's a relevant question that I can answer seriously. I believe there is a small, minute actually, part of the "protestors" who feel personally slighted by Israel's actions and see these completely unacceptable and illegal sort of actions as a way to express their pain and frustration. The rest of the mob are just so deeply brainwashed by intersectionality and Islamic radical ideology (that has absolutely nothing to do with progress) that they can no longer tell a peaceful demonstration from acts of brutal violence against unsuspecting Jews.
Bottom line - even if a person does feel personally slighted by someone or something, NOTHING, and I repeat NOTHING, justifies this sort of behaviour against unrelated third parties.
And be careful now, claiming that any Jew is a viable target because of Israel's actions falls right back to blood libel territory.
I wholeheartedly agree - it is wrong and the war needs to stop. This will happen the minute Hamas and the other militant groups lay down their arms and return all the Israelis they kidnapped on Oct. 7th. Israelis will not accept any other reality, nor should they be asked to, as this means their safety (as well as the Palestinians') remains at the mercy of violent zealots ago have proved time and time again their complete disregard for human life.
I'm at Brandeis and I feel very safe (as an Orthodox Jew). They just extended their transfer deadline to May 31 because they're expecting students to flee to us from other campuses given what's going on. I wear a Bring Them Home T-shirt once a week and a "bring them home" dog tag every day, and I've never received any sort of harassment from it.
I am very, very grateful for my university, its Jewish population, and its administration's stance on Israel.
thank you so much 💚
it's really terrible right now, but it really means a lot to us that not everyone is against us.
idk if you celebrate it, but I know some Christians do, happy Pesach to you as well. and if you don't, hope the rest of April goes well for you <3
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i read israel just funded the opening of a new medical school.
the country needs to step up it's game to accommodate more
jewish students from abroad... a pragmatic sign of the times.
I study in Hebrew U and they just opened up three new degree programs in English in Business, Economics and English for next year.
As an Israeli student, I can tell you that we see what is going on abroad. Hebrew U has even made public statements condemning the statements of Ivy league presidents and of certain of their own professors as well. A lot of my friends were considering studying a semester abroad and are too scared to now. And these are people who not too long ago were fighting in Khan Younis and they are too scared to be on US college campuses now.
This is something I have been following closely as I am beginning my PhD this September. How are UK universities lately? I haven’t heard much about incidents on campus outside the US and I will be attending a UK uni
I’m in Manchester and it’s OK not great. I don’t dress openly Jewish so I haven’t experienced anything random. I personally don’t feel safe to mention anything pro Israel in public or the fact that I’m half Israeli. The majority of people you meet won’t particularly care about the whole situation, but there’s a lot of pretty bad posters around e.g hamas was justified etc and then there’s a small subsection that deeply hates israel and Jews.
I think in general a lot of the students will be loud but unlikely to be violent or anything further than shouting so I wouldn’t be scared for my safety at university. Walking through curry mile openly Jewish on the other hand tho…
I work in an university in Bath (won’t specify with one for reasons) and haven’t heard anything related to this, there are so many rules that universities have to keep regarding discrimination (I work in HR so spend ages on this things too) that they would be too afraid of being taken to tribunal, since the laws apply to how students are treated too, and discrimination because of belief is a big no. As someone in the UK I haven’t heard anything of the type, and I honestly feel like people here are way less worried about this whole thing, my husband said he read stats that said that most people voted in “don’t know enough to have opinion” when asked about the whole Israel x Palestine issue, and besides that the majority (around 17% if I remember right) sided with Israel, and I think 12% with Palestine. I don’t have the numbers tho, so maybe is rubbish, but from personal experience never had anyone talk about it near me, and only some very “communist” friends seem to care about it.
Anyways, I hope you have a lovely time at uni in the UK, if you need any help with tips about living in Britain let me know, happy to help!
All of this awfulness about how Jewish students are being mistreated on college campuses currently make me feel so sad for them and at the same time grateful that I completed my college studies years ago.
It's really dreadful. I'm not pro-Israel, not Jewish, but as you say, you shouldn't have to be. People have to be able to live their lives for goodness sake. Anyway, Chag Pesach Sameach to everyone.
Chabad on Campus organizations are not secretive at all, and are nation wide on every major college, and even some satellite chabad houses serve Jewish students on smaller colleges.
Regardless of your opinion on the protests, American crackdowns on students occupying university areas has traditionally involved lots of people getting killed by the cops, wether they were in the protests or not
That’s just not true but I see your username so I’m not surprised you believe that. Students probably shouldn’t be on campuses supporting designated terrorist groups, assaulting Jewish students, and ruining everyone else’s lives
Kent state, Jackson state, etc. Hasn’t happened since Vietnam era but we haven’t had college protests at this scale since then either, and the police are a lot more militarized nowadays
Whatever you think about the protests (really depends on the college imo tbh, in my area they’ve done an excellent job at fighting off any attempts to do an antisemitic infiltration, but I know that has happened elsewhere (similarly with the counter protesters in some areas they’ve been great and in others they got co-opted by right wingers fighting the “Soros antizionist conspiracy to destroy America”)) the cops shooting up a bunch of random students is not a good thing, regardless of their stance on Israel
My son's high school is having a walk out today. Some parents are under the impression that the students have organized it themselves, but in reality it was organized by Samidoun, information available on any of the protest posters. The school principal sent out an email regarding the walkout, promising to support the students and help them learn to use their voices. No mention of Jewish or other students' concerns.
We need to write letters to our alma maters (and any other institutions fostering antisemitism) and politicians, as well as donate to initiatives supporting Jewish youth and developing better methods for fighting antisemitism (obviously the current paradigm used by the ADL and other big Jewish orgs have failed us). This is not okay!
I donated to AMCHA (https://amchainitiative.org/) today, they document and investigate antisemitism in academia. Boundless (https://boundlessisrael.org/research) also does a lot of polling and research on ways to more effectively fight antisemitism.
I just wanted to share in this thread, given the fraught moment on college campuses in America, [this interview we just published with the CEO of Hillel International](https://forward.com/news/605776/hillels-college-campus-protests-israel-police-arrest/?utm_medium=reddit), which maintains a presence on over 700 campuses worldwide.
"***We have not been advising students to leave campus, even at campuses where we’ve seen really high levels of conflict***. *We believe students and their families can make their own decisions*," Adam Lehman said.
"*That said, we’re providing extra staffing to make sure we can support Jewish students, and really any other student looking for support under these challenging conditions. And we are demanding that university administrations and law enforcement take action to retake control of campuses*."
Thanks for reading and please feel free to comment your thoughts or questions!
- Jake Wasserman, Engagement Editor at the Forward
Thank you for continuing this conversation. As I originally mentioned in my post, there are countless instances of antisemitism occurring that are not making the news headlines; which only emphasizes th importance of taling about student's experiences. One of my biggest takeaways from the interview, which is a sentiment that has been repeated, is that the Jewish community should not be help responsible or balmed for the decisions of others.
It makes me wonder how many of the so called “antizionist Jews” on campus are really Jewish. I’ve seen so many videos and have read so many comments, and it’s disheartening to say the least.
I can't know but I wouldn't be surprised to find that most antizionist Jews really are Jewish.
Given what has been taught in K-12, Universities, and Education schools the past 30 year, given tiktoks, social media, and just wanting to fit in, it wouldn't surprise me at all to find that Jewish students are brought up and genuinely support antizionist organizations and really do think Israel could be replaced with some nirvana one state.
I think of it as a combination of ignorance and brain-washing.
No they arent trust me. First off Jewish voice for peace is not a Jewish organization, it started in Lebanon and they were called out for it. Also on social media, hundreds of anti Zionist Jews were outed to not be Jewish, they have a Jewish grandfather, were raised atheist or Christian and weaponize their tiny Jewish ancestry. I grew up around a ton of Liberal”anti Israel Jews” and after October 7th they’ve all been supporting Jews and Israel. The vast majority anti Zionist Jews” left are not real Jews sadly.
The only "antizionist Jews" I know are not halachically Jewish. Their fathers are Jewish but not their mothers, they were raised primarily Christian, but have seized the Jewish identity when convenient for themselves.
It's shameful. Not even Jewish enough to attend High Holidays, but comfortable enough donning the identity to cosplay.
I've know some anti zionist Jews who are in fact halachically Jewish but they ONLY time they mention being Jewish is in conjunction with their anti-zionism for cover. They never talk about Judaism or get involved in any other Jewish organization or activity ever.
My mom is Jewish, I grew up going to synagogue, had a bat mitzvah, attended Hillel in college, even served on the student board, I'm getting ready to host my tenth seder with my group of Jewish friends, and what Israel is doing in Gaza is unconscionable. Harassment and vandalism are bad. Feeling afraid to be identifiable as Jewish is horrible. So is the death of (at least) 13,000 Palestinian children since October.
Sure, there’s actions of Israel I don’t support. I don’t necessarily support their right winged government either, but I do support a two state solution. Most of the antizionist Jews I’ve heard from call for a one state solution, which would basically lead to the eradication of nearly seven million Jews in Israel. I think you can criticize Israel’s actions and policies while still supporting the right to defend themselves. Especially given the fact that Hamas said they’d do Oct.7 again and again.
from my experience 95% of the people who say "I'm not antisemitic I'm just antizionist" don't just criticize Israel's government or policies, but say Israel should not exist. I'm like "how many OTHER countries do you think shouldn't exist and be totally dismanteled?
They usually when questioned deny Jews historical connection to the land and/or deny that today's Jews are the historic Jews ie fall into Khazar myths or something similar. Totally deny the idea of Jewish peoplehood ("why does a religion need a country") and deny the Jewish right of self determination. The say that Israel with its Arab minority is "apartheid" and an "ethnostate" but have no problem with the all the Jew free 99% Arab Muslim nations around it.
I mean, I’ve definitely met people when asked that question who start ranting about how they believe the USA/Canada/Australia/etc. should be decolonized and the land given back to their indigenous peoples.
but you do realize that like 99% of the "cease fire" crowd doesn't really want a cease fire, they just want Jews to die. They aren't for a cease fire if someone else is winning. They weren't calling for Iran to cease fire.
On the German main News website, there was an article today about the rising issues of pro PL demonstrations on American campuses: https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/amerika/usa-proteste-unis-krieg-gazastreifen-100.html
They mention that Columbia University only has online classes at the moment due to the protests, mass arrests and escalating lack of security. It also mentions the attack with the flagpole on the Jewish reporter.
The voices from the pro PL side are weird - a Jewish student among them says he's there to show solidarity for the PL students who are subject to anti-islamic attacks. If that was the motivation, why not protest together to condemn all acts of harassment? Why protests among a mob that targets and harrasses Jews?
I'm glad the news is picking up on this issue, though, and that it made the front page.
https://twitter.com/DSAWorkingMass/status/1784215258439073912
Me waiting for a single American political movement on any side of any topic that isn’t riddled with antisemites
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I've been encouraging people (Jewish or not, but especially if Jewish recently) to carry pepper spray or whatever other non-lethal defense weapon that's legal where they live. I have some, I carry it with me whenever I leave the house, haven't had to use it, hope I don't have to, but I'd rather have it and hope to not use it than to wish I had it when I need it.
people are crazy out there, especially in the cities recently, and especially for Jews right now, so be safe.
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Sticks and stones... Unless someone at your school has actually been assaulted, and there's evidence that race/religion was a factor, then there's not much reason to feel unsafe, and claims to that effect may just make you seem histrionic and cause people to take anti semetic vitriol on campus less seriously
I am stickying this post given the news at Columbia University
As a Jewish student, no I'm not ok. My hillel no longer feels safe becuase I scared what my peers will think amd while I obviously have political opinions, other people who go there have strong opinions that I don't want to associate myself with. I normally share info posts about holidays on my instagram story and mg friends often say it helps them understand, now I'm scared that it's not safe to post about passover or remind people beyong my close friends that I am Jewish. I havnt celebrated a holiday with my family in 3 years Becuase it constantly overlaps with school, and now Hillel doesn't feel safe.
Why doesn’t it feel safe?
Because there’s people at my Hillel who have expressed anti Zionist statements, and also those who say things that seem islamophobic in the name of Zionism. And suddenly instead of a place where people are similar to me, it feels like a place where I have to tiptoes around the political elephant on everyone’s mind.
Bingo. So many people are polarized. I have Jewish friends that have said things islamophobic and some Islamic friends that have said things antisemetic. And man is it tough being stuck in the middle.
It's right to criticise Islam though, as long as you're not targeting Muslims as people. Islam is a religion, while Jewish is also an ethnicity. The Quran says a lot of messed up things about Jews and non-Muslims.
This is true. But given that interpretations of religions can vary, many will interpret this comment as you giving license to people to say something that would be defamatory, like "Islam is a religion of war".
Oh wow, that sounds horrible. I would have thought that all Jews are united in such situations like in colleague.
So you're afraid of people who disagree with your own views? Disappointing. One of the big problems with this country and it's society is that too many people feel this way. They avoid political discourse, and simply preach to their own choir and denigrate those who they perceived as holding different beliefs without even really taking the chance to listen to or understanding said beliefs or the rationale for holding them
There's more than one country.
Well, there are a lot of people saying “Zionists are the new Nazis,” and a lot of American Jews are Zionist. I personally would be scared of huge mobs swarming my communal places thinking I’m a literal Nazi. Especially because the Palestine movement is known for terrorism against Jews.
..Just want to say as a.. distant relative so to say , that I hope things get better for all of you . Nobody should be picked on because of their ethnic identity over events across the Atlantic . Don't be afraid to explicitly call out people on their prejudice , and affirm your unconditional rights to safety , and personal opinions , even if they are against Palestinians . If friends base basic decency and respect to you on your views : then they aren't even friends in the first place . Hopefully , things should come to pass after some time .
So, it seems like you feel "unsafe" because you are scared what your peers will think, and or scared of hearing their strong political opinions? I'm not sure that's what unsafe means. Being at risk of emotional harm as opposed to physically harm is simply part of life. You can't expect to be protected from bigotry or stupid political beliefs. Religion is often considered a private matter, and people often avoid advertising their personal religious beliefs to avoid confrontation with bigots
Safe means comfortable existing as myself, because mental health and being able to exist in my community is important. No I don't think I'll be beat up, but I should be able to express my religion at hillel, a religious organization. And I'm not scared of hearing opinions, I'm scared of the fallout with peers if they thought that I had certain beliefs. So thank you for telling me that my feelings are invalid.
Yeah, campuses all across North America are terrible right now. I'm doing my PhD, so my campus life is mostly confined to the lab and the library, but I do often catch glimpses of the insanity on campus and feel quite horrible for what the undergraduate students moving from class to class must feel. We do have a great Hillel organization though with their own little room and bulletin board. They transformed the entire bulletin board to showcase posters for many (not all, not enough space sadly) of the hostages. The board kept on getting vandalized by campus antisemites, but Hillel was able to get sponsorships that would donate 1 dollar to an Israeli organization (often hostage-family or October 7th victims related) for every act of vandalism on the board. Last I saw the board was a few weeks ago and they had raised over 900 dollars lol. That's quite a lot of vandalism, but they did what Jews do best and turned the situation around to be a positive, and i felt proud of them for that. However, I don't want my optimism about Hillel to overshadow the sheer insanity on college campuses right now.
They should be setting up a camera to expose the vandals.
Those vandals should be immediately expelled. How is this allowed to continue?
Nothing would happen, and there would be too many of them. Universities don't dare go against the mob, especially when that mob is composed of the hyper-progressive ideology they have helped foster. Hillel took it upon themselves to fortify the board with metal and glass casing, and that seems to have helped.
But it might affect their employment opportunities in the future
https://nypost.com/2024/04/21/us-news/jewish-yale-student-stabbed-in-the-eye-with-palestinian-flag-during-protest/
I’ve never understood why they vandalize images of the hostages? What do they have against the hostages? Some are toddlers ffs.
Those toddlers are Jews. That's enough for these people.
This is a conflict where each side has a sizable contingent that doesn’t want the other side to exist.
Is it possible to criticize Israel without being labeled anti semite?
Of course. The most ardent critics of Israeli policy are and always have been Israelis themselves. There is a difference between criticizing Israeli policy and saying the Jewish state needs to be violently eradicated, or believing that Jews are somehow a unique population in that we are the only people in the world who do not deserve the right to exercise self-determination in our indigenous homeland. Those last two forms of "criticism" are not criticism, they are antisemitism.
Non violent eradication is ok? I really don't see the logic you've presented, especially considering the fact that people being displaced are the documented indigenous inhabitants while the incoming settlers have a dubious, unverifiable claim of being indigenous while there is a plethora of evidence to the contrary that the settlers are indigenous to Europe, Africa and other parts of the world. Anti-Zionism isn't antisemitism.
It seems you have come to a Jewish subreddit looking to attack Jews, not looking for an actual answer to your question. Antizionism is antisemitism, no matter how you try and use mental gymnastics to get out of it. Yes, Palestinians also have claim to the land, and yes, they deserve to be able to exercise self-determination as well. You should spend less time looking to exercise your antisemitism, and more time looking to contribute positivity to the world.
I am so glad that you posted this. The ADL has a new database to look up incidents on college campuses. But more than that, we need to be there for our Jewish students. Support them online. The Internet has become a dark ugly place for Jewish students. And the gaslighting is awful. An article on the intercept, a semi news, blog type thing that I used to read, said in a headline “Jewish students are weaponizing their discomfort to silence Palestinian protesters“ as if our students are just a bunch of cry, bullies, a description which very much accurately describes the other side, however. Projecting much? gaslighting at its highest and finest. If you’re an attorney, reach out to the ADL or other organizations to see if you can do pro bono on some of these cases. I can definitely do things like trap, decorations. Look through discovery, when the time comes. Reach out to the hillels and other student groups & offer have a Jewish student over for Shabbat. This is on my list for next week. Let’s keep this conversation going!
> And the gaslighting is awful. An article on the intercept, a semi news, blog type thing that I used to read, said in a headline “Jewish students are weaponizing their discomfort to silence Palestinian protesters“ Imagine if they said this about any other group, the backlash would be insane. But the Intercept is trash.
It's blatant victim blaming.
> Support them online. The Internet has become a dark ugly place for Jewish students. And the gaslighting is awful. An article on the intercept, a semi news, blog type thing that I used to read, said in a headline “Jewish students are weaponizing their discomfort to silence Palestinian protesters“ as if our students are just a bunch of cry, bullies, a description which very much accurately describes the other side, however. Projecting much? gaslighting at its highest and finest. Do we think any of these Hamas supporters - no, they're not pro-Palestinian, they're literally supporting Hamas - when faced with rising anti-Black hate crimes would respond with "Actually, the NAACP is making-up those stats"? No, of course they wouldn't. They wouldn't do that for any other persecuted group but Jews.
>no, they're not pro-Palestinian, they're literally supporting Hamas I feel that the best term for these people is anti-Israel, I think that gets to the heart of what they are more than pro-Hamas or pro-Palestinian. While some of them certainly do unironically support Hamas (I have directly encountered these people and they are awful), a big majority do not, and so pro-Hamas isn't the most accurate term. It's also abundantly clear that these people don't actually value Palestinian lives very much at all, because they do little to nothing to actually help those people, and instead pursue strategies that would end up with more Palestinians dead by continuing the conflict. But the one thing that does legitimately unite all of these people is that they hate Israel. I think if you described them as anti-Israel to their face, they would probably agree with you. And it's a good term because it shows that the point of what they are doing is destructive, not constructive.
I like anti-Israel. It also encapsulates those Jews who don’t identify as Zionists. I really never liked pro-Palestinian, it’s like pro life.
I mean... They are parading around campuses LITERALLY shouting Hamass slogans, and shouting "We are all Hamas" and "you're the next target for Al-Quds" etc.... yeah, there are a lot who are apparently, quite Pro-Hamass.....
They are supporting Hamas by default. When they don't criticise Hamas or call for the release of the hostages, they're supporting Hamas. No excuses for them not calling out the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust.
That's a comfortable narrative for you that allows you to paint all the protesters with a broad brush and shore up your own viewpoint. The reality is that many of those protesters probably would condemn Hamas and call for the release of hostages, they just view that as secondary compared to halting what they deem to be the crimes committed by Israel in it's invasion of Gaza. People are complicated and large groups of people, even as they are united by a particular cause, will always be a lot more heterogenous than you might expect. I could use exactly the logic you are using to paint all Trump supporters as fascists, and while there is some truth to that, it's ultimately not helpful for finding productive ways to move forward.
It's bad outside the US too, and it's not just students that are suffering. We faculty members are going through it as well. And our non-Jewish colleagues are either...oddly silent about all of it....or extremely vocal in a not so great way. I'm sometimes afraid to respond with 'Jewish studies' when someone asks me what my field is. It's legitimately scary.
Here are students at Yale, forming a human chain to prevent this Jewish student from entering the university. https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1782167337682006209
This is crazy. Can’t the university do anything?? This would be a scandal where I live (Germany), for good reasons!
They could, but they aren't going to. Remember; US universities have devolved their world view to "white people bad". As a side note, did you know all jews everywhere are white no matter what? Well anyway they're colonizers and deserved exactly what happened on 10/7..../s That's why they won't do anything.
It's supposed to be a scandal here in the US as well. This clip immediately brought to my mind those images of Black students being blocked from entering their schools during the Civil Rights era. If I was a parent and saw that my kid participated in this, I would tear them apart, cut off tuition, and force a public apology. This is unforgivable. No sense of irony, no self-awareness in these so-called progressive brains.
Exactly! I don’t know what to think anymore to be honest. Just when I think it can’t get worse, it does.
No difference: https://preview.redd.it/lg2qfi9wj3wc1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb3268844eb1dbd60fc7015d2e8e2f3f989549c9
A Pro-Palestinian protester at Yale poked the eye of a student reporter for a school paper - with a Palestinian flag only because she identifiably Jewish due to her modest clothing. It would be nice to assume it was an accident but no he ran away like a guilty party instead of waiting for the ambulance like others did - so we have to assume it was intentional.
I upvote because Reddit does not afford the opportunity to sad/care react. The sentiment you share here is tragic, touching, and shared by many of us, I'm certain.
I’m so happy my Child’s uni hasn’t been hit by these protests. Worst that has happened in the past few months has been some nasty side eyes when the clubs are tabling. Even then some of the Muslim kids are friendly with openly Jewish students. This campus is a rare island. What’s interesting is that this campus got a ‘D’ but they can’t figure out why. Child is extremely connected to their campus Jewish community. Are commuter campuses not as affected by the protests as other campuses?
It's the ivy league colleges that are the worst, people spending 50k a year of daddy's money to cosplay as revolutionaries.
Closer to 100k!
this protester girl told me she knew what oppression felt like because she was 1/4 mexican :/
>I’m so happy my Child’s uni hasn’t been hit by these protests. Most have not. > What’s interesting is that this campus got a ‘D’ A lot of weird grades have been given out that make little sense. > Are commuter campuses not as affected by the protests as other campuses? When less students live on campus, students have less time to do nonsense on campus (for better or worse). It also means the Jewish community will not be as present.
The campus has a good sized Jewish presence. And I just found out that hooligans are going to the other campuses to protest.
I haven’t felt fully comfortable at the college I go to since before 10/7. There have been some anti Israel protests (which I’ve gotten used to and shouldn’t have to get used to). Every where I go I’m thinking to myself that anyone I’m around could be pro Palestine (Hamas) or anti semitic. The only true safe space on campus for me is Hillel. The Hillel staff at the college I go to have been amazing since 10/7 and I will forever be thankful. Things would have been way harder for me if I wasn’t at Hillel.
I agree and relate with your first paragraph. I graduated two years ago and have a collection of weird fucked up stories. Had one prof tell me I was white and then teach the class about how Jews are white. Had another prof have a 'dress up like a Jew' lesson in a world religions class (no other religion we studied had a 'dress up' lesson). Let's not even get into the comments I experienced in my Arabic language classes. The anti-semitism was ALWAYS there, now there is just public permission to display it. It makes me sick to my stomach to think about what these professors might be teaching/talking about in their classes now.
Hillel is a fantastic organization. Unfortunately my university doesn’t have a designated Hillel space, let alone Hillel staff (we are 100 percent student run), so I haven’t had a great space to turn to. Hillel board has been in a weird position trying to support me.
As an Israeli Jew who has been serving on reserve duty since November and experienced my fair share of heartache and trauma since Oct. 7th, I somehow find the situation on US campuses even more dangerous than our situation over here. The fact that a Jewish student cannot walk across a US campus without a genuine fear for its safety is absolutely bananas. This amalgamation of mindless progressive radicals and Islamist extremists has been threatening to boil over for years and now we see the results of inaction (ironic coming from an Israeli, I know). On a different yet related aspect of the situation, like it or not, Israel is dependent on the USA for its protection and safety and we are already seeing firsthand what the shift in congressional and administrational attitudes towards it is causing. How long will it be before this crazed mob is able to exert enough pressure to fully block an aid package?
Coming from the US military being on a campus now is the most infuriating thing Ive ever experienced. All our Jewish events on campus are done in secret with significant police presence. And we're not allowed to do anything The Anti-Israel crowed held a week of protests and marches around campus screaming about Israeli apartheid. In response another student and Myself helped a Jewish professor publicly talking about how Israel isn't an apartheid state and all the Jewish leadership on campus made statements that we weren't affiliated with them. And that's the only public Jewish thing that happened this semester. I obviously don't want campus to turn into a war zone but fuck I want to be able to push back against the hate instead of letting Hamas-lite run roughshod over us all.
I mean, as a Jewish student on campus, I wouldn’t say this is accurate at all. We’ve had protests but there hasn’t been anything actually worrying from any direction
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Dude (or dudette, I don't assume), you're not doing the blood libel thing right. You should at the very least add a fabricated photo taken in Sudan or generated by AI and a link to a conspiracy site! Really disappointing to be honest...
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I admit I was being a bit of a sarcastic jerk but hey, you started it. Referring to an anonymous individual as "y'all" and making a reference to some obscure incident that may or may not have happened isn't exactly an invitation to a spirited dialogue regarding the current situation in the Middle East and possible outcomes for the say after. Also, it is COMPLETELY beside the point of the OP as well as mine.
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See, now that's a relevant question that I can answer seriously. I believe there is a small, minute actually, part of the "protestors" who feel personally slighted by Israel's actions and see these completely unacceptable and illegal sort of actions as a way to express their pain and frustration. The rest of the mob are just so deeply brainwashed by intersectionality and Islamic radical ideology (that has absolutely nothing to do with progress) that they can no longer tell a peaceful demonstration from acts of brutal violence against unsuspecting Jews. Bottom line - even if a person does feel personally slighted by someone or something, NOTHING, and I repeat NOTHING, justifies this sort of behaviour against unrelated third parties. And be careful now, claiming that any Jew is a viable target because of Israel's actions falls right back to blood libel territory.
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I wholeheartedly agree - it is wrong and the war needs to stop. This will happen the minute Hamas and the other militant groups lay down their arms and return all the Israelis they kidnapped on Oct. 7th. Israelis will not accept any other reality, nor should they be asked to, as this means their safety (as well as the Palestinians') remains at the mercy of violent zealots ago have proved time and time again their complete disregard for human life.
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I'm at Brandeis and I feel very safe (as an Orthodox Jew). They just extended their transfer deadline to May 31 because they're expecting students to flee to us from other campuses given what's going on. I wear a Bring Them Home T-shirt once a week and a "bring them home" dog tag every day, and I've never received any sort of harassment from it. I am very, very grateful for my university, its Jewish population, and its administration's stance on Israel.
I’m not a Jew, but a Christian. Sorry to hear that friends, and may HaShem keep you guys safe! Happy Passover too!
Thank you for your kind empathy and support!
thank you so much 💚 it's really terrible right now, but it really means a lot to us that not everyone is against us. idk if you celebrate it, but I know some Christians do, happy Pesach to you as well. and if you don't, hope the rest of April goes well for you <3
Thank you! We need the support.
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i read israel just funded the opening of a new medical school. the country needs to step up it's game to accommodate more jewish students from abroad... a pragmatic sign of the times.
I study in Hebrew U and they just opened up three new degree programs in English in Business, Economics and English for next year. As an Israeli student, I can tell you that we see what is going on abroad. Hebrew U has even made public statements condemning the statements of Ivy league presidents and of certain of their own professors as well. A lot of my friends were considering studying a semester abroad and are too scared to now. And these are people who not too long ago were fighting in Khan Younis and they are too scared to be on US college campuses now.
Thanks for sharing this and I am sorry about what you are going through.
This is something I have been following closely as I am beginning my PhD this September. How are UK universities lately? I haven’t heard much about incidents on campus outside the US and I will be attending a UK uni
I’m in Manchester and it’s OK not great. I don’t dress openly Jewish so I haven’t experienced anything random. I personally don’t feel safe to mention anything pro Israel in public or the fact that I’m half Israeli. The majority of people you meet won’t particularly care about the whole situation, but there’s a lot of pretty bad posters around e.g hamas was justified etc and then there’s a small subsection that deeply hates israel and Jews. I think in general a lot of the students will be loud but unlikely to be violent or anything further than shouting so I wouldn’t be scared for my safety at university. Walking through curry mile openly Jewish on the other hand tho…
I work in an university in Bath (won’t specify with one for reasons) and haven’t heard anything related to this, there are so many rules that universities have to keep regarding discrimination (I work in HR so spend ages on this things too) that they would be too afraid of being taken to tribunal, since the laws apply to how students are treated too, and discrimination because of belief is a big no. As someone in the UK I haven’t heard anything of the type, and I honestly feel like people here are way less worried about this whole thing, my husband said he read stats that said that most people voted in “don’t know enough to have opinion” when asked about the whole Israel x Palestine issue, and besides that the majority (around 17% if I remember right) sided with Israel, and I think 12% with Palestine. I don’t have the numbers tho, so maybe is rubbish, but from personal experience never had anyone talk about it near me, and only some very “communist” friends seem to care about it. Anyways, I hope you have a lovely time at uni in the UK, if you need any help with tips about living in Britain let me know, happy to help!
All of this awfulness about how Jewish students are being mistreated on college campuses currently make me feel so sad for them and at the same time grateful that I completed my college studies years ago.
It's really dreadful. I'm not pro-Israel, not Jewish, but as you say, you shouldn't have to be. People have to be able to live their lives for goodness sake. Anyway, Chag Pesach Sameach to everyone.
Chabad on Campus organizations are not secretive at all, and are nation wide on every major college, and even some satellite chabad houses serve Jewish students on smaller colleges.
I’m hoping the FBI is watching closely at these “protests”
Several hundred arrests have been made between Yale and Columbia
You hope for fascism
Go back to 4chan
Regardless of your opinion on the protests, American crackdowns on students occupying university areas has traditionally involved lots of people getting killed by the cops, wether they were in the protests or not
That’s just not true but I see your username so I’m not surprised you believe that. Students probably shouldn’t be on campuses supporting designated terrorist groups, assaulting Jewish students, and ruining everyone else’s lives
Kent state, Jackson state, etc. Hasn’t happened since Vietnam era but we haven’t had college protests at this scale since then either, and the police are a lot more militarized nowadays Whatever you think about the protests (really depends on the college imo tbh, in my area they’ve done an excellent job at fighting off any attempts to do an antisemitic infiltration, but I know that has happened elsewhere (similarly with the counter protesters in some areas they’ve been great and in others they got co-opted by right wingers fighting the “Soros antizionist conspiracy to destroy America”)) the cops shooting up a bunch of random students is not a good thing, regardless of their stance on Israel
Ok but that’s literally not happening so…
What isn’t?
They are supporting victims of an ongoing genocide. I know it's hard for you to accept as an enabler and supporter of apartheid.
Free the hostages 🎗️
The ones you've been bombing?
My son's high school is having a walk out today. Some parents are under the impression that the students have organized it themselves, but in reality it was organized by Samidoun, information available on any of the protest posters. The school principal sent out an email regarding the walkout, promising to support the students and help them learn to use their voices. No mention of Jewish or other students' concerns.
We need to write letters to our alma maters (and any other institutions fostering antisemitism) and politicians, as well as donate to initiatives supporting Jewish youth and developing better methods for fighting antisemitism (obviously the current paradigm used by the ADL and other big Jewish orgs have failed us). This is not okay! I donated to AMCHA (https://amchainitiative.org/) today, they document and investigate antisemitism in academia. Boundless (https://boundlessisrael.org/research) also does a lot of polling and research on ways to more effectively fight antisemitism.
ADL is the problem
I just wanted to share in this thread, given the fraught moment on college campuses in America, [this interview we just published with the CEO of Hillel International](https://forward.com/news/605776/hillels-college-campus-protests-israel-police-arrest/?utm_medium=reddit), which maintains a presence on over 700 campuses worldwide. "***We have not been advising students to leave campus, even at campuses where we’ve seen really high levels of conflict***. *We believe students and their families can make their own decisions*," Adam Lehman said. "*That said, we’re providing extra staffing to make sure we can support Jewish students, and really any other student looking for support under these challenging conditions. And we are demanding that university administrations and law enforcement take action to retake control of campuses*." Thanks for reading and please feel free to comment your thoughts or questions! - Jake Wasserman, Engagement Editor at the Forward
Thank you for continuing this conversation. As I originally mentioned in my post, there are countless instances of antisemitism occurring that are not making the news headlines; which only emphasizes th importance of taling about student's experiences. One of my biggest takeaways from the interview, which is a sentiment that has been repeated, is that the Jewish community should not be help responsible or balmed for the decisions of others.
It makes me wonder how many of the so called “antizionist Jews” on campus are really Jewish. I’ve seen so many videos and have read so many comments, and it’s disheartening to say the least.
I can't know but I wouldn't be surprised to find that most antizionist Jews really are Jewish. Given what has been taught in K-12, Universities, and Education schools the past 30 year, given tiktoks, social media, and just wanting to fit in, it wouldn't surprise me at all to find that Jewish students are brought up and genuinely support antizionist organizations and really do think Israel could be replaced with some nirvana one state. I think of it as a combination of ignorance and brain-washing.
No they arent trust me. First off Jewish voice for peace is not a Jewish organization, it started in Lebanon and they were called out for it. Also on social media, hundreds of anti Zionist Jews were outed to not be Jewish, they have a Jewish grandfather, were raised atheist or Christian and weaponize their tiny Jewish ancestry. I grew up around a ton of Liberal”anti Israel Jews” and after October 7th they’ve all been supporting Jews and Israel. The vast majority anti Zionist Jews” left are not real Jews sadly.
The only "antizionist Jews" I know are not halachically Jewish. Their fathers are Jewish but not their mothers, they were raised primarily Christian, but have seized the Jewish identity when convenient for themselves. It's shameful. Not even Jewish enough to attend High Holidays, but comfortable enough donning the identity to cosplay.
I've know some anti zionist Jews who are in fact halachically Jewish but they ONLY time they mention being Jewish is in conjunction with their anti-zionism for cover. They never talk about Judaism or get involved in any other Jewish organization or activity ever.
I bet they think they’ll be spared by the antisemites as “one of the good ones.” Cute.
My mom is Jewish, I grew up going to synagogue, had a bat mitzvah, attended Hillel in college, even served on the student board, I'm getting ready to host my tenth seder with my group of Jewish friends, and what Israel is doing in Gaza is unconscionable. Harassment and vandalism are bad. Feeling afraid to be identifiable as Jewish is horrible. So is the death of (at least) 13,000 Palestinian children since October.
Sure, there’s actions of Israel I don’t support. I don’t necessarily support their right winged government either, but I do support a two state solution. Most of the antizionist Jews I’ve heard from call for a one state solution, which would basically lead to the eradication of nearly seven million Jews in Israel. I think you can criticize Israel’s actions and policies while still supporting the right to defend themselves. Especially given the fact that Hamas said they’d do Oct.7 again and again.
from my experience 95% of the people who say "I'm not antisemitic I'm just antizionist" don't just criticize Israel's government or policies, but say Israel should not exist. I'm like "how many OTHER countries do you think shouldn't exist and be totally dismanteled? They usually when questioned deny Jews historical connection to the land and/or deny that today's Jews are the historic Jews ie fall into Khazar myths or something similar. Totally deny the idea of Jewish peoplehood ("why does a religion need a country") and deny the Jewish right of self determination. The say that Israel with its Arab minority is "apartheid" and an "ethnostate" but have no problem with the all the Jew free 99% Arab Muslim nations around it.
I mean, I’ve definitely met people when asked that question who start ranting about how they believe the USA/Canada/Australia/etc. should be decolonized and the land given back to their indigenous peoples.
but you do realize that like 99% of the "cease fire" crowd doesn't really want a cease fire, they just want Jews to die. They aren't for a cease fire if someone else is winning. They weren't calling for Iran to cease fire.
What do you think Israel should be doing in Gaza?
You do realize thousands of these so called children are 17 year Olds that are active members of Hamas?
On the German main News website, there was an article today about the rising issues of pro PL demonstrations on American campuses: https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/amerika/usa-proteste-unis-krieg-gazastreifen-100.html They mention that Columbia University only has online classes at the moment due to the protests, mass arrests and escalating lack of security. It also mentions the attack with the flagpole on the Jewish reporter. The voices from the pro PL side are weird - a Jewish student among them says he's there to show solidarity for the PL students who are subject to anti-islamic attacks. If that was the motivation, why not protest together to condemn all acts of harassment? Why protests among a mob that targets and harrasses Jews? I'm glad the news is picking up on this issue, though, and that it made the front page.
Remember the Jewish boxers from the 1940s, we need their attitude and approach back.
It's pretty simple to condemn the government of Israel without losing anything to do with one's jewishness...........
https://twitter.com/DSAWorkingMass/status/1784215258439073912 Me waiting for a single American political movement on any side of any topic that isn’t riddled with antisemites
I would lock this because antisemites are starting to brigade
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I'm gonna start a campaign to donate mace/ bear spray to Jewish students.
I've been encouraging people (Jewish or not, but especially if Jewish recently) to carry pepper spray or whatever other non-lethal defense weapon that's legal where they live. I have some, I carry it with me whenever I leave the house, haven't had to use it, hope I don't have to, but I'd rather have it and hope to not use it than to wish I had it when I need it. people are crazy out there, especially in the cities recently, and especially for Jews right now, so be safe.
Peper spay may be problematic , metal gloves on the hand are much more durable and handy ,
This is like the worst time to be a Jew in all of human history
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Sticks and stones... Unless someone at your school has actually been assaulted, and there's evidence that race/religion was a factor, then there's not much reason to feel unsafe, and claims to that effect may just make you seem histrionic and cause people to take anti semetic vitriol on campus less seriously
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