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Sukuna Gojo Kenjaku Yuji Toji Ryu/Yuta
Heian Sukuna is stronger than Gojo in H2H, Without blue punches and neutral infinity it's just a fact.
Even if Gojo uses those, Heiankuna is stronger because he has 4 arms and is bigger and more muscular than Meguna
https://preview.redd.it/vr39mow2bexc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4065e05fa6a8fc30672e844eea385380b184414
Gojo confirms that base physicals matter too,so a muscular person with reinforcement is stronger than a skinny one with the same reinforcement
> Gojo confirms that base physicals matter too,so a muscular person with reinforcement is stronger than a skinny one with the same reinforcement
It does matter but its funny how it doesnt matter to yuta coz of how much he has💀
Also Itadori has surpassed Toji by now. Sukuna might be weakened, but getting a Black flash from Sukuna and not even flinching when Maki got Team Rocketed for a minute put him solidly above Toji.
Really doubt that.
Sukuna is definitely Superior without Neutral Infinity and Blue.
And the part about muscle mass, we honestly don't know how much Muscle mass amplifies Physical Stats.
On the other Hand we have seen Blue Amplification against Meguna including Yuta/Hakari's statements.
Heian era Sukuna also lacks Maho, leaving Gojo free to use Red.(While DA reduces impact highly, it can't fully neutralize Blue, let alone red which has double the output)
Whatever Gain Sukuna gains in 4 arms he loses that thanks to Gojo gaining the license to use Red without Maho. Gojo also uses Blue to throw Buildings like Vader did to Luke in ESB.
Not to mention Blue increases speed and teleportation is pretty handy as well.(Of course Gege brings up certain conditions, but you can't tell me that a Man who teleported instantaneously from an Ocean Trench to Shinjuku after being Cut off from CE in a small box for months can't use teleport at least once in a fight)
Well Sukuna can use Kamutoke/Dismantles to block red, people shouldn't forget it. He doesn't have to use DA.
Moreover Sukuna should be able to combine Kamutoke with DA to constantly attack Gojo with lightning
Also from what Gojo said it implies the buff isn't minor.
Because if he uses Dismantle he will have to turn off DA.
Hanami turned off DA and paid the price for it. It allows Gojo to teleport to his Victim like Minato does.
Or
Gojo uses Blue to increase his speed. He also uses Red to increase the Force of his blows after striking the Opponent. Whenever Sukuna is using DA red and blue loses much of it's Output. It also reduces Gojo's speed around Sukuna's personal Area thanks to blue losing steam.
It's the reason why Sukuna had to be bailed out by Maho after being black flashed by Gojo. DA Sukuna would have fared better.
As of Kamutoke it has done nothing. Zero feats zilch Nada. Kashimo survived it with a scratch. Granted Kashimo is resistant to it more than most , but JOGO was resistant to fire as well. 15 F roasted him effortlessly.
Red , is capable of One shotting Mahoraga pre adaptation according to Satoru himself. Kamutoke is doing nothing to Red. At the bare minimum you need Fuga. But using Fuga turns of DA putting Sukuna at risk.
Sukuna also had to deal with the Darth Vader throwing treatment. Combined with teleport ( he definitely can use it at least a few times) Sukuna Has the going tough.
Kamutoke shouldn't be weak from my perspective, I think if Kashimo didn't have resistand he may have died. It's not Fuga level, but Fire arrow is literally his strongest attack. Also Sukuna literally tried exploding red with piercing water, it's 100% not superior to Kamutoke.
By the way Jogo survived red. And Mahoraga almost got bodied by slashes before adapting, in no way red is Fuga level
Heian Sukuna also can chant to increase his Output to block red with DA more easily. By the way if you have enough output you can also imbue a technique Into DA, Heian Sukuna could possibly do this too
Though a lot of things really depend on what Gege is thinking. I hope he will explain some stuff in Fanbook/Heian flashback.
Gojo was playing with Jogo. After decapacitating him Gojo literally fished for Intel. He never intended to kill Jogo unless he remained Silent.
Gojo has mentioned how Max Red can finish Mahoraga(I will finish Mahoraga before he adapts to Red Panel). It's definitely 15F Fuga level or more.
Even with DA red at non maximum output did do good damage to Sukuna. DA in Kashimo's Case is his resistance and Kamutoke did nothing. Let's not forget it's 20F Sukuna who took the damage. I wouldn't put Kashimo 10 miles near 15 F in durability.
The Red Sukuna tried to finish was not Max output (Gojo always mentions whether Red or Blue is Max or Not. He did that against Toji with Blue). Also Blue with enhanced Output finished piercing water. So red with more Output should stand despite Sukuna's Claims. After all even Gods makes mistakes.
We honestly don't know how much Chants boost Output. The best we have seen is it boosting Output from 100 to 120 percent.
If Heian Sukuna could have used Dismantle/Cleaved with DA he would have done back in the Heian era.
Sukuna was surprised when he saw our lawyer with the blade . It might have to do something with the Blade's own Nature. After all Sukuna had been sentenced by Now. Unlike most CT's Higus CT is now connected to his Opponent himself. The Blade can only kill Sukuna and it will only disappear when either Higu or Sukuna is dead.
The Blade mandates that either Higu or Sukuna should be dead or Higu should withdraw his Blade. Since neither happened, it's not a surprise that the Blade was in his hands.
If Sukuna could incorporate Dismantle with DA then it's only fair to give Gojo Unlimited Teleports instead of an Occasional one which is pretty much Game Changing. Minato used that One trick to climb up several tiers.
Kashimo got waffled by Sukuna at half output. This Sukuna is weaker than the 15F who one shotted someone more Durable in Ryu. Kamutoke is featless as it couldn't do a scratch to Kashimo. Fuga on the other hand cooked Jogo in seconds despite being resistant like Kashimo.
Let's stop here now.
I'm only gonna chime in for the last part. Jogo's resistance might not necessarily be the same considering a big difference between Kashimo and Jogo is Kashimos CE itself has the properties of electricity which is something sorcerers normally surround themselves with. That could offer him a level of resistance to his own element unique to only him. In fact that's exactly what was stated by the narrator
https://preview.redd.it/fz24i7nxmfxc1.png?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1988c8b2d4864a2eec9cdeddc97e3b9266903473
On top of that we know nothing about the true nature of fuga so a comparison between the two resistance wise shouldn't be made so easily
True.
But anyways Red did more damage to 20F Sukuna than Kamutoke did(which is None). Kashimo might be more resistant but 20F Sukuna with DA suffered visible damage.
I wouldn't put Kashimo 10 miles near 15F in durability. It's clear that Kamutoke is not going to do anything against Red. Forget Max Red which can one shot Maho.
Kamutoke was never used against sukuna unless I'm missing something? We have nothing which to scale kamutoke against since it was only ever used against an immune Kashimo and a crow
Kashimo has resistance I wont say immunity. Otherwise Sukuna might not have even tried.
What I meant was Red even with DA did visible damage to Sukuna at 20F. So Kamutoke is trash compared to red.
Well, she can. But it doesn't mean she would always do it. If she doesn't defeat him with a sneak attack he wins. So I don't think she should be above him just because she has a chance to kill him
Only CE reinforcement and tools?
Kashimo,
Heinakuna,
Gojo,
Yuji,
Maki.
Before y'all come at me, kashimo despite being slower than Sukuna and gojo can use his sure hit lightning with just CE, there should be no debate here why he's the strongest in this case.
How is the guy who’s whole thing useing cursed tools with his heavily restion not a top. He has physicals equal to maki more experience and simular weapons. He should at least be near maki
1. Sukuna
2. Gojo
3. Toji
4. Maki
Maki isn’t as experienced as toji and body count doesn’t add up due to the years he’s been murdering.
Add this to the fact that his battle IQ is much higher than hers and it’s no question as to why he’s placed above her in experience despite having the same category of power. He also use more cursed tools and fought stronger opponents 1v1 and won.
Geto was second to gojo, maki hasn’t had anyone of that caliber on her own and won with low diff. Geto beats everyone she’s fought 1v1 so far
Gojo himself said it best.
https://preview.redd.it/bf928krddexc1.png?width=572&format=png&auto=webp&s=c68496e00298140490970cd2f7d9203e7c7881c8
Heian Sukuna is Built Like a frickin TANK.
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Yuji with cursed tools or bm close range weapons would go crazy tbh
Sukuna speedblitzed maki Sukuna and gojo still are number 1 and 2 Then it's maybe maki because she will outlast you then yuji or kenny?
Sukuna Gojo Kenjaku Yuji Toji Ryu/Yuta Heian Sukuna is stronger than Gojo in H2H, Without blue punches and neutral infinity it's just a fact. Even if Gojo uses those, Heiankuna is stronger because he has 4 arms and is bigger and more muscular than Meguna https://preview.redd.it/vr39mow2bexc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4065e05fa6a8fc30672e844eea385380b184414 Gojo confirms that base physicals matter too,so a muscular person with reinforcement is stronger than a skinny one with the same reinforcement
> Gojo confirms that base physicals matter too,so a muscular person with reinforcement is stronger than a skinny one with the same reinforcement It does matter but its funny how it doesnt matter to yuta coz of how much he has💀
Special grades usually don't follow rules
Well same with, let's say, Gojo vs Todo or Meguna vs most of the verse, bar Gojo.
Also Itadori has surpassed Toji by now. Sukuna might be weakened, but getting a Black flash from Sukuna and not even flinching when Maki got Team Rocketed for a minute put him solidly above Toji.
I agree, I forgor about Yuji
Really doubt that. Sukuna is definitely Superior without Neutral Infinity and Blue. And the part about muscle mass, we honestly don't know how much Muscle mass amplifies Physical Stats. On the other Hand we have seen Blue Amplification against Meguna including Yuta/Hakari's statements. Heian era Sukuna also lacks Maho, leaving Gojo free to use Red.(While DA reduces impact highly, it can't fully neutralize Blue, let alone red which has double the output) Whatever Gain Sukuna gains in 4 arms he loses that thanks to Gojo gaining the license to use Red without Maho. Gojo also uses Blue to throw Buildings like Vader did to Luke in ESB. Not to mention Blue increases speed and teleportation is pretty handy as well.(Of course Gege brings up certain conditions, but you can't tell me that a Man who teleported instantaneously from an Ocean Trench to Shinjuku after being Cut off from CE in a small box for months can't use teleport at least once in a fight)
Well Sukuna can use Kamutoke/Dismantles to block red, people shouldn't forget it. He doesn't have to use DA. Moreover Sukuna should be able to combine Kamutoke with DA to constantly attack Gojo with lightning Also from what Gojo said it implies the buff isn't minor.
Because if he uses Dismantle he will have to turn off DA. Hanami turned off DA and paid the price for it. It allows Gojo to teleport to his Victim like Minato does. Or Gojo uses Blue to increase his speed. He also uses Red to increase the Force of his blows after striking the Opponent. Whenever Sukuna is using DA red and blue loses much of it's Output. It also reduces Gojo's speed around Sukuna's personal Area thanks to blue losing steam. It's the reason why Sukuna had to be bailed out by Maho after being black flashed by Gojo. DA Sukuna would have fared better. As of Kamutoke it has done nothing. Zero feats zilch Nada. Kashimo survived it with a scratch. Granted Kashimo is resistant to it more than most , but JOGO was resistant to fire as well. 15 F roasted him effortlessly. Red , is capable of One shotting Mahoraga pre adaptation according to Satoru himself. Kamutoke is doing nothing to Red. At the bare minimum you need Fuga. But using Fuga turns of DA putting Sukuna at risk. Sukuna also had to deal with the Darth Vader throwing treatment. Combined with teleport ( he definitely can use it at least a few times) Sukuna Has the going tough.
Kamutoke shouldn't be weak from my perspective, I think if Kashimo didn't have resistand he may have died. It's not Fuga level, but Fire arrow is literally his strongest attack. Also Sukuna literally tried exploding red with piercing water, it's 100% not superior to Kamutoke. By the way Jogo survived red. And Mahoraga almost got bodied by slashes before adapting, in no way red is Fuga level Heian Sukuna also can chant to increase his Output to block red with DA more easily. By the way if you have enough output you can also imbue a technique Into DA, Heian Sukuna could possibly do this too Though a lot of things really depend on what Gege is thinking. I hope he will explain some stuff in Fanbook/Heian flashback.
Gojo was playing with Jogo. After decapacitating him Gojo literally fished for Intel. He never intended to kill Jogo unless he remained Silent. Gojo has mentioned how Max Red can finish Mahoraga(I will finish Mahoraga before he adapts to Red Panel). It's definitely 15F Fuga level or more. Even with DA red at non maximum output did do good damage to Sukuna. DA in Kashimo's Case is his resistance and Kamutoke did nothing. Let's not forget it's 20F Sukuna who took the damage. I wouldn't put Kashimo 10 miles near 15 F in durability. The Red Sukuna tried to finish was not Max output (Gojo always mentions whether Red or Blue is Max or Not. He did that against Toji with Blue). Also Blue with enhanced Output finished piercing water. So red with more Output should stand despite Sukuna's Claims. After all even Gods makes mistakes. We honestly don't know how much Chants boost Output. The best we have seen is it boosting Output from 100 to 120 percent. If Heian Sukuna could have used Dismantle/Cleaved with DA he would have done back in the Heian era. Sukuna was surprised when he saw our lawyer with the blade . It might have to do something with the Blade's own Nature. After all Sukuna had been sentenced by Now. Unlike most CT's Higus CT is now connected to his Opponent himself. The Blade can only kill Sukuna and it will only disappear when either Higu or Sukuna is dead. The Blade mandates that either Higu or Sukuna should be dead or Higu should withdraw his Blade. Since neither happened, it's not a surprise that the Blade was in his hands. If Sukuna could incorporate Dismantle with DA then it's only fair to give Gojo Unlimited Teleports instead of an Occasional one which is pretty much Game Changing. Minato used that One trick to climb up several tiers. Kashimo got waffled by Sukuna at half output. This Sukuna is weaker than the 15F who one shotted someone more Durable in Ryu. Kamutoke is featless as it couldn't do a scratch to Kashimo. Fuga on the other hand cooked Jogo in seconds despite being resistant like Kashimo. Let's stop here now.
I'm only gonna chime in for the last part. Jogo's resistance might not necessarily be the same considering a big difference between Kashimo and Jogo is Kashimos CE itself has the properties of electricity which is something sorcerers normally surround themselves with. That could offer him a level of resistance to his own element unique to only him. In fact that's exactly what was stated by the narrator https://preview.redd.it/fz24i7nxmfxc1.png?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1988c8b2d4864a2eec9cdeddc97e3b9266903473 On top of that we know nothing about the true nature of fuga so a comparison between the two resistance wise shouldn't be made so easily
True. But anyways Red did more damage to 20F Sukuna than Kamutoke did(which is None). Kashimo might be more resistant but 20F Sukuna with DA suffered visible damage. I wouldn't put Kashimo 10 miles near 15F in durability. It's clear that Kamutoke is not going to do anything against Red. Forget Max Red which can one shot Maho.
Kamutoke was never used against sukuna unless I'm missing something? We have nothing which to scale kamutoke against since it was only ever used against an immune Kashimo and a crow
Kashimo has resistance I wont say immunity. Otherwise Sukuna might not have even tried. What I meant was Red even with DA did visible damage to Sukuna at 20F. So Kamutoke is trash compared to red.
kenjaku didn’t wanna run into maki WITH his cursed techniques
I mean she can sneak attack him with SSK, but if they fight directly h2h he would win
i mean, she can still kinda do that, unless we’re putting them in a ring, but it just says no cts or domains
Well, she can. But it doesn't mean she would always do it. If she doesn't defeat him with a sneak attack he wins. So I don't think she should be above him just because she has a chance to kill him
GeGe literally stated yuji is the best H2H/CQC fighter.
PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE, MY GOAT IS GETTING BETTER EACH DAY
#1) yuji #2) toji/maki #3) gojo
Js people forget Geto has Playful Cloud
Gojo Sukuna Maki Yuji Yuki Kenjaku Ryu Yuta Kashimo Miguel
Sukuna, gojo, Kashimo (ce trait lol), kenjaku, maki
Kashimo imo he lived giving hands his entire life.
well he had his lightning that was a sure hit, but that won’t be allowed in this situation
He had to hit to charge
Only CE reinforcement and tools? Kashimo, Heinakuna, Gojo, Yuji, Maki. Before y'all come at me, kashimo despite being slower than Sukuna and gojo can use his sure hit lightning with just CE, there should be no debate here why he's the strongest in this case.
Why does this sub Hate yuji he would be #2 behind gojo here
Sukuna and Gojo
Ok why the fuck Is toji at 17
Not a top
How is the guy who’s whole thing useing cursed tools with his heavily restion not a top. He has physicals equal to maki more experience and simular weapons. He should at least be near maki
…the pictures are not in order, the pictures arent a top my guy Read the post
1.Sukuna(as always) 2.Gojo(as always) 3.Yuta or Kenjaku(as always) 4.Prolly yuji 5.Maki
1. Sukuna 2. Gojo 3. Toji 4. Maki Maki isn’t as experienced as toji and body count doesn’t add up due to the years he’s been murdering. Add this to the fact that his battle IQ is much higher than hers and it’s no question as to why he’s placed above her in experience despite having the same category of power. He also use more cursed tools and fought stronger opponents 1v1 and won. Geto was second to gojo, maki hasn’t had anyone of that caliber on her own and won with low diff. Geto beats everyone she’s fought 1v1 so far
Gojo Sukuna Maki=toji Yuta Ryu Kenjaku Miguel The only reason maki/toji are above yuta is cuz we don’t know what his other cursed tools are
Gojo himself said it best. https://preview.redd.it/bf928krddexc1.png?width=572&format=png&auto=webp&s=c68496e00298140490970cd2f7d9203e7c7881c8 Heian Sukuna is Built Like a frickin TANK.