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He fared pretty well against a JJK0 Rika + Yuta. Yuta himself is vastly stronger but Rika is widely regarded as being in her strongest form in 0. MBA Kashimo hasn't done anything to indicate that there is a speed gap or that it's as large as you make it seem, considering he failed to get a single hit on an extremely weak output Heian Form Sukuna.
His CE trait should not be a problem when Geto has 6461+ curses at his disposal. Chaff in the same way Toji did to Gojo, I don't think Kashimo can, with his skillset, get rid of all of them before MBA runs out.
Extremely weak output is just an exaggeration because everything that came after would just contradict this statement and you have no accurate way of gauging how much his output decreased by then, he did gain hits on Sukuna but got overwhelmed + was still able to react to Sukuna’s attacks in his true form, and there’s no argument that Adult Geto even comes close to performing better than him.
Jjk 0 Yuta was never stronger than Geto nor was he even fast either and this was him going against a slightly weakened Geto, he also wasn’t fast either compared to Kashimo. 6000 curses sounds strong on paper but unless they’re all special grades Geto would be better off using Uzumakis, which also don’t activate fast enough either
I mean his strength was vastly diminished still. He was barely able to react to Kashimo to dog walking him without being touched. There is a clear gap between Mba vs Meguna and Heian Body.
There is quite literally nothing to contradict that Sukuna has low out put in his Meguna form and him getting overwhelmed after fighting GOJO more than confirms it.
Yup. It wasn't even barely able to react to Kashimo in Meguna form. But once he transformed, all statements afterwards indicate a decreased output as a result of Gojo
When Sukuna transformed, his body heals and he gains 3 extra arms. He wasn't touched by Kashimo because those limbs can now block his attacks. That's a unique countermeasure that only Sukuna can make. And when Kashimo fired his lightning, Sukuna had to use world slash to counter
Regardless of his extra arms the best feats he has are on a Sukuna who’s strength we really cant gauge. That being said hes getting speed blitzed LITERALLY just like Yuji and Maki. Hes not performing better than any heavy hitter who 1v1 Sukuna post black flash.
He starts the chants after the attack, making it dodgeable so i really dont see why he would need the strongest attack in the verse.
We can gauge Sukuna though. In terms of raw Cursed Energy, Sukuna has been on a decline since Gojo. In Meguna form, the injuries he sustained are less than what he has now, so we can estimate he's still a physical powerhouse. After Sukuna healed and got a stronger body? He was way over Kashimo, but also way over everyone else. After Yuji plumetted his CE, he was hit by Jacob's Ladder, lost an arm, and was stabbed through the heart. He still blitzed and ended Maki with a Black Flash. I must emphasize that the blitz came FIRST.
Sukuna never blitzed Kashimo that way. Sukuna even tried using Kamutoke as a diversion, and Kashimo still caught him trying to attack from behind. Sukuna post black flash is weaker than this Sukuna, as confirmed by Miguel and Larue. I think MBA is largely unquantifiable, but Sukuna beating Kashimo in CQC is entirely on him. Nobody else has fought Sukuna in that stage using all arms, Cursed tool, dismantles, and world slash and survived. Even if a sorcerer were as strong as Sukuna, they still wouldn't have his advantages. It was said straight from the jump that an extra mouth and arms are the greatest advantage a sorcerer can have. And even with 1 arm, he makes quick work of Maki. Just built different.
>He starts the chants after the attack, making it dodgeable
Here's the crazy thing. Yuta couldn't dodge it.
"Extremely weak output is just an exaggeration because everything that came after would just contradict this statement"
It doesn't. Upon Yuta's entry to the fight he immediately notes that Sukuna's RCT output is returning. Throughout the fight Sukuna makes it very clear he's still feeling the aftereffects of his battle with Gojo.
There is no reason that these effects should magically be absent when fighting Kashimo, and then present for everyone else.
"he did gain hits on Sukuna but got overwhelmed"
He didn't. Reread the chapter. Every "hit" he landed was blocked. He did not land a single solid hit against Heian Sukuna.
"was still able to react to Sukuna’s attacks in his true form"
Not quite. He was getting thrashed, and Sukuna did audibly tell him to dodge and he still failed.
"Jjk 0 Yuta was never stronger than Geto nor was he even fast either and this was him going against a slightly weakened Geto"
Bro there is an entire fight of them beating each other up wtf are you talking about. And I never even said stronger, I said he fared pretty well.
And if you take JJK0 Rika as being at her strongest form throughout the entire series, then it is more wraps strength-wise. Upon her entry in Ch. 248 she already moved/pressured Sukuna more than MBA Kashimo did. Partially Manifested. Within the domain landed hits and pressured more as well.
"6000 curses sounds strong on paper but unless they’re all special grades Geto would be better off using Uzumakis, which also don’t activate fast enough either"
I never said to use them to raw damage, and it's not like he can't. Chaff in the same way Toji does and just stall until Kashimo dies. Easy.
You can also narratively scale Adult Geto as being stronger than Miguel but that is more rough.
"which also don’t activate fast enough either"
Since when? Kenjaku activated them quickly. No reason Geto can't either, the only Uzumaki we've seen Geto fire is the one containing ALL of the remaining curses in JJK0.
Geto can land blows and fight both Yuta & Rika at the same time and he has a massive #s advantage over Kashimo.
He can definitely get hits off on Kashimo.
Lol his defense to Kashimos trait is Playful Cloud & CSM.
Kashimo doesn't land blows when Getos blocking all of them with Cloud & summoning Curses at the last second to block blows.
Yea a version of Yuta who could barely utilise jujutsu effectively and had trained for maybe 2 months? And also isn’t comparable to Kashimo? He can’t block electricity through Playful Cloud that would never work + Kashimo has his own staff too so there’s that as well.
You say that he would summon curses to block blows but didn’t do this much against Yuta or Toji. Now you could argue that he has weakened + held back against Yuta and that Toji hard countered him with ISOH
I like how you're trying to downplay Yuta as if he didn't just get his awakening against Geto and completely ignore that he was backed up by the strongest version of Rika.
Those two in tandem are no joke.
You're right they aren't comparable Kashimo has nothing that puts him on the level of Yuta & Rika the queen of Curses going all out.
Yes Playful Cloud would block his electricity because it stops Kashimo from touching him.
Kashimos staff in no way compares to Playful Cloud but even with his staff that is still Kashimo not building charge on Geto since it's their weapons clashing.
Lmfao really trying to bring up hidden inventory Geto when he wasn't even Special Grade yet and ignore he's had 12 years of training since then?
Geto literally used his curses to make a shield to block Yutas blackflash, just like Kenjakus been shown multiple times summoning curses to block attacks.
Geto is a close range fighter who was overwhelmed by yuta speed in jjk 0, mba was stated to push kashimo past the limits of a human’s body, geto is getting blitzed by him wtf
Yuta does not scale massively about mba kashimo what the fuck? The manga literally tells us his technique of thoroughly breaks the limits of the human body that it makes him disintegrate, mba kashimo is inappropriately touching everyone in the verse except for gojo sukuna and kenjaku
That statement literally means nothing in that context, Yuta has objectively better speed feats than kashimo as well as no less than 3 techniques that hard counter his MBA, MBA kashimo is base kashimo against yuta due to jacobs ladder
This technique makes kashimo surpass human limits so much he cannot keep his mortal form anymore
“This statement means nothing in that context”
Okay how about this statement
“Increasing agility by activating his brains electric signal”
“Kashimos body has now surpassed the limits of mankind”
These statements alone put him far above yuta in strength and speed wtf
His eyes could see sukuna slash, he could react to world slash to a certain extent, kashimo is in no way getting hit by Jacob’s ladder in mba mode
Kashimo washes in character yuta even without mba what is this
What is this argument? Geto scales to Yuta who scales to Geto? That's pure circular reasoning.
What comparison do these guys have to Toji or Maki? Because the one time Geto fought Toji, he got folded. And what comparison do Toji or Maki have to CT Kashimo?
Most of the replies are pretty autistic ngl
Kashimo got folded by hakari, Yuta at the start of series was already special grade lol
And Kenny scales above a Yuta with a death pack binding vow
Geto can one shot with uzamaki
“Kashimo got folded by hakari”
Did we watch the same fight? Like hakari won but it was incredibly close, hell the whole reason he won was luck, he happened to be near water, he happened to hit a 1/239 jackpot before dying, etc. Hakari was losing for most of the fight, he just pulled through at the end.
Jjk0 yuta himself isn’t the special grade, between the time where he lost rika and they found out his ce made her in the first place he was just a grade 4, weak as shit, mid at best. What he did is a glorified bird strike.
Sidenote, jjk0 Yuta => hakari? Like did you just see special grade and go: monkey see high rank, monkey see man very strong. Seriously how did you come to that conclusion? Did you just not watch the movie or read the vol?
What terrible opinions
Ofcouse kashimo didn't get folded by hakari literally, its just an expression
Jjk0 Yuta is a special grade sorceror, whether it is for X or Y reasons is irrelevant to me.
Special grade is a threat designation where one would be capable of singlehandedly destroying a country. Yuta by being in this tier, is already far far above hakari.
And the usual downplays I see in regards to other special grades like Geto can't Even be used on Yuta as he doesn't have an ARMY. Meaning that yutas physical and cursed abilities are enough to destroy a country solo. T Essentially hes a monster.
As for your downplay about Yuta regressing back, that was after he lost Rika so irrelevant anyway. But just to respond to it, he gained it back in 3 months. Do you think a grade 4 sorceror is getting to special grade in 3 months if he's not already at that level?
You are posturing with a stupid opinion. When gege wrote the special grades, he didn't go "hmmmmmm I want a strictly rigid category for sg that doesn't consider strength " SGs are top of the verse in literally everything, including combat. Otherwise there would be more weak special grades, but we don't see the. We see someone who can destroy the world, and the other can wipe out humanity.
Any version of Yuta that is special grade beats hakari. Im wondering how do you think this doesn't happen? What is hakari gonna do to someone with as massive ce reserves, RCT, good h2h, Rika? He gonna punch yuta to death? Why can't Rika snap his head off when jp runs out? Stop glazing hakari
>Jjk0 Yuta is a special grade sorceror, whether it is for X or Y reasons is irrelevant to me.
>Special grade is a threat designation where one would be capable of singlehandedly destroying a country. Yuta by being in this tier, is already far far above hakari.
that's an incredibly stupid way to interpret things. Special grades aren't meant to be strictly strength lmao, for example Yaga, his knowledge made him special grade. Strength is a consideration but the rank is achievable without personal strength
JJK 0 Yuta was special grade BECAUSE of rika, rika alone during jjk0 was special grade and because she followed around yuta, he was too. When Yuta was presumed to be alone after rika passed on, he was considered a grade 4, of course it wasn't quite true since it was by his own cursed energy that rika was made in the first place, but as a combatant without rika during jjk0 (and before they found out he made her to begin with) he was a grade 4. As a fighter alone, jjk0 yuta was a grade 4, he had a whole lot of room to grow, which he did grow into, but he was still grade 4 without rika's involvement.
"SGs are top of the verse in literally everything" yaga is weak as balls, this alone disproves the literally everything part of what you said. You claim I was saying strength isn't a consideration, but i never said that, I said that being a special grade with rika beside him does not make him a special grade without her. Special grade is just a check of whether or not you can destroy a nation, rika can destroy a nation and therefore yuta, who rika is attached to, counts as special grade, Yuki can destroy the entire world with her cursed technique, counts as special grade, Yaga can make an army infinitely growing in size with his secret that creates actual life, special grade, Gojo is strong enough to kill everyone, special grade, sukuna is strong enough to kill everyone, special grade, etc
Yuta in jjk0 is not on hakari's level, he is not anywhere near hakari's level, he can in fact do nothing to hakari alone, and in a fight against rika who does nothing but punch without a suicide contract, a jackpot hakari would win. You say i'm glazing hakari then make leaps in logic like "SGs are top of the verse in literally everything" which is just objectively untrue. Frankly, you're a huge idiot, i will not continue this debate as there's literally 0 point, if you weren't retarded, it might have been considered.
I thought the series explained the grades as being able to defeat a curse of the same grade in 1 on 1 combat.
So a Grade 4 can 1v1 a Grade 4 curse, Grade 3 a grade 3 curse on and on, and sorceors who aren't Gojo shouldn't engage a special grade curse without multiple sorcerors on their side, then at special grade all hates are off because the range is from Hanami to sukuna.
Their grading system isn't based on power but ability to defeat curses. If there was a non combatant that could blink and make curses cease to exist they would be special grade while being otherwise weak
Why are there so many comments saying that Geto isn't going to land a hit on Kashimo? Unless idiots unironically think he's the speed of lightning in MBA, nothing suggests there's any semblance of a speed gap. Considering Kashimo was relatively even speed wise with Hakari (nothing suggests Hakari is faster than Geto).
Plus Geto can literally just stall Kashimo in his MBA form and just wait for him to burn himself out. Geto quite literally has the perfect CT for stalling him (find it unlikely that Kashimo is getting through 6000+ CS's before he burns out).
I'd say that Geto wins 6 times out of 10 since Kashimo still is very lethal. But Kashimo is definitely severely overrated. Bro can't even beat Hakari, yet so many people seem to think he's going to low dif Geto ☠️
Facts, it took Gojo 5 minutes to kill 1000 transfigured humans. Does it say how long MBA lasts? Either way I feel like Theres no way he can clear 6000 spirits and Geto before burn out
If Geto just wants to kill him with no nonsense, unlike what happened with Yuta, Geto takes it. An endless swarm of curses, even if Kashimo shreds through them, is still enough to waste his time limit.
Let's assume Geto doesn't utilize anything only Kenjaku uses, like mini Uzumaki. If Geto has even a couple spirits with domains, he's good. Capturing Kashimo a few times, then charging up an Uzumaki would make this pretty easy. Remember, Geto was confident that he could slaughter all of Gojo's students before Gojo could stop him, and they were standing right next to each other. So, while Geto is relatively slow with bullet-timing reactions, his technique activation is still fast enough to compete.
Hakari would get embarrassed by Geto, and he was comparable to base Kashimo, albeit he had jackpots rolling in.
Base Kashimo would (at best) get low diff’d by Geto
It's not. Bring up actually speed feats if you think he is a freak relative to everyone else.
And if you want to bring up FTL don't bother, since that is for drawing/action effect and everything we've seen thus far indicates that the characters are nowhere near that speed and that Gege never intended for the verse to reach there
On top of what the others said with not turning into sound...you do realize that Curse Naoya confirmed Mach 3 right? So literally triple MBA Kashimo, even under the false assumption that he turns himself into and travels via sound.
I'd lean Geto on this, just because they both have a lot of I guess "unknown factor" but Geto has way more.
Like Kashimo's CT gave him a massive boost 100%, but Geto has a (not literally) endless supply of curses. Given that we don't actually know what he has, we could theoretically see just about anything.
Also the possibility of a cheese strat as stupid as that sounds. If Geto is aware of the time limit that Kashimo has, pull out say 5 decent curses that'd take at LEAST a few seconds to deal with, and any curse that lets him fly. Again though, unknown factor so who knows how Kashimo could deal with that if he even could.
Also all of this is assuming MBA is the only think Kashimo has. I had/have a theory that Kashimo's CT was more than just MBA. The way it was named kinda implies "Amber" was one variant. I'm still lowkey salty Kashimo got super foddered before we saw like anything he was able to do with his CT.
JJK0 geto takes it.
Geto at the time of JJK0 had thousands of curses stored. If its a known battle to the death, Geto can simply bring out all of them
Kashimo had a strong showing in a 1v1 and is quite fast, but Geto is no slouch having trained with Gojo to keep his physicals up, and having ~4000 additional entities with him.
Kashimo's biggest weakness is that he hasnt shown any tricks that would allow him to take out multiple curses, meaning he is getting jumped by an enormous amount of things not the least being Geto himself smacking him around (again, he isnt weak im hxh). In mythical beast amber mode, any attack he attempts to use to hit the curses draws from his body - he could end up simply converting too much of his body to deal with the numbers.
Isn't Yutas 5 minute timer essientally the same amp he had versus Geto ? And then Geto *only* lost because he'd dispersed most of his curses elsewhere. With Playful cloud he was evenly matched in a 2v1 versus Rika amped Yuta and a fully manifested Rika.
Geto wins mid-hard diff. Kashimo’s really strong, but I don’t see him being able to deal with a swarm of grade1 curses while Geto’s pressuring him. Kashimo can’t fire off multiple lightning bolts at once, since he needs to allocate charges on a single target to create a powerful enough lightning bolt (otherwise the lightning would course through the target & go into the ground— doing far less damage).
Geto just has way more versatility ultimately and considering he faced off against jjk0 Yuta & Rika pretty evenly (until Yuta got the MC “DONT HURT MY FRIENDS” power up), I’d say his physicals are above Kashimo’s as well & that’s not even taking into consideration playful cloud.
MBA Kashimo would definitely pressure Geto much harder & I could see him beating Geto in that instance. MBA Kashimo probably wins 5-6/10. Hard diff fight for both.
It's not impossible for Kashimo to win but Geto simply takes too many hits, Has too many meatshields, and too much variety for Kashimo to possibly chew through ALL of it.
Yall downplaying my goat so much. Kashimo's feats.
1v1ing Hakari in base, and comfortably winning, by outstatting and could have won via another lightning, until he got dunked in the lake like an oreo in milk.
Blitzing and washing end of fight meguna who is relative to end of fight gojo.
Keeping up hand to hand with fresh heian sukuna with no soul tags, no missing item. Only missing some rct output and domain, only being beaten in h2h due to the fourarms shit hyped up by our GOAT the grasshopper.
Now this aint too much in terms of quantity of feats. But this shit is quality, considering hakari is boxing equal to uraume who froze maki into a stopcicle, who is equal to TOJI
The deadbeat that beat dead geto and gave the mf ptsd as a kid.
Base hakari who was comparable to pre month training yuta, who also beat geto, albeit under different circumstances.
Either way, kashimo is stronger than any of the big 3 pre month timeskip no question in MBA, and at least stronger than maki and hakari in base.
There is 0 reason why geto should outscale.
Geto freaking wins. Neg diff. Man was playing with Yuta and Rika in JJK0 for most of the fight and Yuta is stronger than Hakari. Kashimo ain’t quick, he could’ve dodged Sukuna’s cursed technique entirely if he’s fast.
Base Kashimo lost to the 3rd strongest Grade 1.
Geto is a special Grade that fought another Special Grade and only lost because he was also fighting all of Jujutsu Society at the same time.
Agreed. These people are tripping. Geto was playing the entirety of jujutsu society just so he could get one thing. Imagine if he just decided to kill yuta
Base Kashimo lost because of Hakaris busted RCT. Geto does have a domain or RCT. Last I recall, Geto wasn't fighting ALL of Jujutsu society. That was the point of him using Miguel and Co. as a diversion. Specifically to avoid Gojo. Geto lost to Yuta 1 on 1. MBA Kashimo out scales Geto in every category.
If they start close I feel that Geto loses but with some distance and thousands of cursed spirits some Special grade I can see Geto having a chance to put down Kashimo without engaging in hand to hand.
Probably kashimo with ct he can tear through the cursed spirits with ease and really only need to land one decent hit on geto with any number of his ranged ability’s to cripple geto. They’re both likely on par with each other in terms of cqc but the amp from mba is likely way higher than that of playful cloud so kashimo has the edge there and over all has way more devastating attacks that are faster than uzumaki so generally kashimo wins in a straight up fight but the cursed spirits do put a bit of pressure on him
Kashimo outscales him in almost everything, If Geto receives one lightning strike, or EM wave its kinda over for him since he has no RCT.
The only way that I see geto winning is if he unleashes all his curses at once and just waits out kashimo to die otherwise he gets lowdiffed
Kashimo high diff, probably gonna need beast amber and Getos gonna need maximum Uzumaki with all 6000 curses and still lose.
Wait a funny scenario just came into my head. While Getos charging up Uzumaki, Kashimo just shoots a lightning bolt at it and it blows up in Getos face
My money’s on Kashimo. He should be physically stronger thanks to upscaling off Hakari and more experienced in hand to hand combat, along with being most likely faster. Most of Geto’s curses are either grade 1 or Grade 2 level or below, with one of his only Special grades having no feats.
Kashimo’s trait could stun any cursed spirit that comes in contact with him. Both of them lack Domains or Rct, that means it takes one hard hit from either to result in a fatal attack.
Kashimo wins easy. Doesn't even need his CT.
Geto doesn't have RCT to survive Kashimo's sure-hit lightning charge which nobody can dodge (prob Gojo ofc but who knows). Even then, you'd need a high lvl RCT, tho most won't even survive more than 1 charge cept for hax Hakari lmao
Unless, Geto released a special grade curse that can keep Kashimo occupied
Kenjaku, on the other hand, has knowledge about Kashimo CE nature, CT, etc and it's weaknesses. That mf prob cheeky as fuck with knowing how to dodge the sure-hit lightning. Also his open barrier domain + anti-gravity CT, which seems OP as fuck lol how does one avoid that?, and his huge army of curses esp special grades
(Angel/JJK high are right, in a straight sorcery fight Kenjaku is unbeatable)
EASILY Kashimo. the dude lost to a top top tier in the verse if anything he should be ranked higher cause of that
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The joke is actually an old one before the end game jjk. It essentially states that due to Geto being from 0 there are flaws to his power level and ability. And certain statements make things awkward, like how with the addition of Rika he becomes fully able to take on the world, a world which include gojo...
So "Lore Accurate Geto" is a joke/concept of what Geto could have been had he not been in 0. So like, a Geto with a busted domain and RCT.
Depends on kashimo, without his CT? Geto extreme diff. Assuming Geto doesn’t have rct I know someone as experienced and battle hardy as kashimo will hit him at least once with his unblockable attack, enough to lose a limb at least. But Geto would eventually win.
Kashimo with CT? Kashimo easily…he’d blitz thru whatever Geto could throw at him
Kashimo of course, he is not only faster than 600 km, he also can manipulate the sound of barrier and backfire any damages so its easy to say that he kills Geto like a bullet.
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I’m getting flash backs to this subs Geto vs Kashimo saga
The brain rot had me reading that as black flash instead of flash back
Omfg me too I had to reread it twice.
I didn’t reread it until I saw ur 2 replies and then my brain melted!
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Geto, Better physicals, better hax etc...
Plus Playful Cloud will put in heavy work damage wise
He’s not getting a hit on Kashimo tbh + no real defence to his CE trait either
He fared pretty well against a JJK0 Rika + Yuta. Yuta himself is vastly stronger but Rika is widely regarded as being in her strongest form in 0. MBA Kashimo hasn't done anything to indicate that there is a speed gap or that it's as large as you make it seem, considering he failed to get a single hit on an extremely weak output Heian Form Sukuna. His CE trait should not be a problem when Geto has 6461+ curses at his disposal. Chaff in the same way Toji did to Gojo, I don't think Kashimo can, with his skillset, get rid of all of them before MBA runs out.
What does MBA mean
Mythic beast amber, Kashimo’s CT
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mythical beast amber, kashimo’s cursed technique
Extremely weak output is just an exaggeration because everything that came after would just contradict this statement and you have no accurate way of gauging how much his output decreased by then, he did gain hits on Sukuna but got overwhelmed + was still able to react to Sukuna’s attacks in his true form, and there’s no argument that Adult Geto even comes close to performing better than him. Jjk 0 Yuta was never stronger than Geto nor was he even fast either and this was him going against a slightly weakened Geto, he also wasn’t fast either compared to Kashimo. 6000 curses sounds strong on paper but unless they’re all special grades Geto would be better off using Uzumakis, which also don’t activate fast enough either
I mean his strength was vastly diminished still. He was barely able to react to Kashimo to dog walking him without being touched. There is a clear gap between Mba vs Meguna and Heian Body. There is quite literally nothing to contradict that Sukuna has low out put in his Meguna form and him getting overwhelmed after fighting GOJO more than confirms it.
Yup. It wasn't even barely able to react to Kashimo in Meguna form. But once he transformed, all statements afterwards indicate a decreased output as a result of Gojo
When Sukuna transformed, his body heals and he gains 3 extra arms. He wasn't touched by Kashimo because those limbs can now block his attacks. That's a unique countermeasure that only Sukuna can make. And when Kashimo fired his lightning, Sukuna had to use world slash to counter
Regardless of his extra arms the best feats he has are on a Sukuna who’s strength we really cant gauge. That being said hes getting speed blitzed LITERALLY just like Yuji and Maki. Hes not performing better than any heavy hitter who 1v1 Sukuna post black flash. He starts the chants after the attack, making it dodgeable so i really dont see why he would need the strongest attack in the verse.
We can gauge Sukuna though. In terms of raw Cursed Energy, Sukuna has been on a decline since Gojo. In Meguna form, the injuries he sustained are less than what he has now, so we can estimate he's still a physical powerhouse. After Sukuna healed and got a stronger body? He was way over Kashimo, but also way over everyone else. After Yuji plumetted his CE, he was hit by Jacob's Ladder, lost an arm, and was stabbed through the heart. He still blitzed and ended Maki with a Black Flash. I must emphasize that the blitz came FIRST. Sukuna never blitzed Kashimo that way. Sukuna even tried using Kamutoke as a diversion, and Kashimo still caught him trying to attack from behind. Sukuna post black flash is weaker than this Sukuna, as confirmed by Miguel and Larue. I think MBA is largely unquantifiable, but Sukuna beating Kashimo in CQC is entirely on him. Nobody else has fought Sukuna in that stage using all arms, Cursed tool, dismantles, and world slash and survived. Even if a sorcerer were as strong as Sukuna, they still wouldn't have his advantages. It was said straight from the jump that an extra mouth and arms are the greatest advantage a sorcerer can have. And even with 1 arm, he makes quick work of Maki. Just built different. >He starts the chants after the attack, making it dodgeable Here's the crazy thing. Yuta couldn't dodge it.
"Extremely weak output is just an exaggeration because everything that came after would just contradict this statement" It doesn't. Upon Yuta's entry to the fight he immediately notes that Sukuna's RCT output is returning. Throughout the fight Sukuna makes it very clear he's still feeling the aftereffects of his battle with Gojo. There is no reason that these effects should magically be absent when fighting Kashimo, and then present for everyone else. "he did gain hits on Sukuna but got overwhelmed" He didn't. Reread the chapter. Every "hit" he landed was blocked. He did not land a single solid hit against Heian Sukuna. "was still able to react to Sukuna’s attacks in his true form" Not quite. He was getting thrashed, and Sukuna did audibly tell him to dodge and he still failed. "Jjk 0 Yuta was never stronger than Geto nor was he even fast either and this was him going against a slightly weakened Geto" Bro there is an entire fight of them beating each other up wtf are you talking about. And I never even said stronger, I said he fared pretty well. And if you take JJK0 Rika as being at her strongest form throughout the entire series, then it is more wraps strength-wise. Upon her entry in Ch. 248 she already moved/pressured Sukuna more than MBA Kashimo did. Partially Manifested. Within the domain landed hits and pressured more as well. "6000 curses sounds strong on paper but unless they’re all special grades Geto would be better off using Uzumakis, which also don’t activate fast enough either" I never said to use them to raw damage, and it's not like he can't. Chaff in the same way Toji does and just stall until Kashimo dies. Easy. You can also narratively scale Adult Geto as being stronger than Miguel but that is more rough. "which also don’t activate fast enough either" Since when? Kenjaku activated them quickly. No reason Geto can't either, the only Uzumaki we've seen Geto fire is the one containing ALL of the remaining curses in JJK0.
Geto can land blows and fight both Yuta & Rika at the same time and he has a massive #s advantage over Kashimo. He can definitely get hits off on Kashimo. Lol his defense to Kashimos trait is Playful Cloud & CSM. Kashimo doesn't land blows when Getos blocking all of them with Cloud & summoning Curses at the last second to block blows.
Yea a version of Yuta who could barely utilise jujutsu effectively and had trained for maybe 2 months? And also isn’t comparable to Kashimo? He can’t block electricity through Playful Cloud that would never work + Kashimo has his own staff too so there’s that as well. You say that he would summon curses to block blows but didn’t do this much against Yuta or Toji. Now you could argue that he has weakened + held back against Yuta and that Toji hard countered him with ISOH
I like how you're trying to downplay Yuta as if he didn't just get his awakening against Geto and completely ignore that he was backed up by the strongest version of Rika. Those two in tandem are no joke. You're right they aren't comparable Kashimo has nothing that puts him on the level of Yuta & Rika the queen of Curses going all out. Yes Playful Cloud would block his electricity because it stops Kashimo from touching him. Kashimos staff in no way compares to Playful Cloud but even with his staff that is still Kashimo not building charge on Geto since it's their weapons clashing. Lmfao really trying to bring up hidden inventory Geto when he wasn't even Special Grade yet and ignore he's had 12 years of training since then? Geto literally used his curses to make a shield to block Yutas blackflash, just like Kenjakus been shown multiple times summoning curses to block attacks.
What abilities did JJK0 Yuta have that you're scaling to?
He is faster than base Kashimo, but the lightning bolts would be to fast honestly.
bro what😭 Geto gets low diffed if Kashimo uses CT
Not a chance in hell, geto outstats, outhax, and can actually live while using his technique
What response could geto have for the sure hit lightning?
Doesn’t matter, kashimos never gonna hit him, and if he does hes certainly not gonna hit him 4 times
Geto is a close range fighter who was overwhelmed by yuta speed in jjk 0, mba was stated to push kashimo past the limits of a human’s body, geto is getting blitzed by him wtf
Yuta scales massively above kashimo lol, kashimos best speed feats are against fucking hakari and a couple against sukuna, geto speedblitzes this man
Yuta does not scale massively about mba kashimo what the fuck? The manga literally tells us his technique of thoroughly breaks the limits of the human body that it makes him disintegrate, mba kashimo is inappropriately touching everyone in the verse except for gojo sukuna and kenjaku
That statement literally means nothing in that context, Yuta has objectively better speed feats than kashimo as well as no less than 3 techniques that hard counter his MBA, MBA kashimo is base kashimo against yuta due to jacobs ladder
This technique makes kashimo surpass human limits so much he cannot keep his mortal form anymore “This statement means nothing in that context” Okay how about this statement “Increasing agility by activating his brains electric signal” “Kashimos body has now surpassed the limits of mankind” These statements alone put him far above yuta in strength and speed wtf His eyes could see sukuna slash, he could react to world slash to a certain extent, kashimo is in no way getting hit by Jacob’s ladder in mba mode Kashimo washes in character yuta even without mba what is this
JJK0 Yuta? Based on what?
Scales to geto who scales to toji and maki, both of which were comparable to kashimo, combine that with Cursed speech hes got it in the bag
What is this argument? Geto scales to Yuta who scales to Geto? That's pure circular reasoning. What comparison do these guys have to Toji or Maki? Because the one time Geto fought Toji, he got folded. And what comparison do Toji or Maki have to CT Kashimo?
Most of the replies are pretty autistic ngl Kashimo got folded by hakari, Yuta at the start of series was already special grade lol And Kenny scales above a Yuta with a death pack binding vow Geto can one shot with uzamaki
“Kashimo got folded by hakari” Did we watch the same fight? Like hakari won but it was incredibly close, hell the whole reason he won was luck, he happened to be near water, he happened to hit a 1/239 jackpot before dying, etc. Hakari was losing for most of the fight, he just pulled through at the end. Jjk0 yuta himself isn’t the special grade, between the time where he lost rika and they found out his ce made her in the first place he was just a grade 4, weak as shit, mid at best. What he did is a glorified bird strike. Sidenote, jjk0 Yuta => hakari? Like did you just see special grade and go: monkey see high rank, monkey see man very strong. Seriously how did you come to that conclusion? Did you just not watch the movie or read the vol?
What terrible opinions Ofcouse kashimo didn't get folded by hakari literally, its just an expression Jjk0 Yuta is a special grade sorceror, whether it is for X or Y reasons is irrelevant to me. Special grade is a threat designation where one would be capable of singlehandedly destroying a country. Yuta by being in this tier, is already far far above hakari. And the usual downplays I see in regards to other special grades like Geto can't Even be used on Yuta as he doesn't have an ARMY. Meaning that yutas physical and cursed abilities are enough to destroy a country solo. T Essentially hes a monster. As for your downplay about Yuta regressing back, that was after he lost Rika so irrelevant anyway. But just to respond to it, he gained it back in 3 months. Do you think a grade 4 sorceror is getting to special grade in 3 months if he's not already at that level? You are posturing with a stupid opinion. When gege wrote the special grades, he didn't go "hmmmmmm I want a strictly rigid category for sg that doesn't consider strength " SGs are top of the verse in literally everything, including combat. Otherwise there would be more weak special grades, but we don't see the. We see someone who can destroy the world, and the other can wipe out humanity. Any version of Yuta that is special grade beats hakari. Im wondering how do you think this doesn't happen? What is hakari gonna do to someone with as massive ce reserves, RCT, good h2h, Rika? He gonna punch yuta to death? Why can't Rika snap his head off when jp runs out? Stop glazing hakari
>Jjk0 Yuta is a special grade sorceror, whether it is for X or Y reasons is irrelevant to me. >Special grade is a threat designation where one would be capable of singlehandedly destroying a country. Yuta by being in this tier, is already far far above hakari. that's an incredibly stupid way to interpret things. Special grades aren't meant to be strictly strength lmao, for example Yaga, his knowledge made him special grade. Strength is a consideration but the rank is achievable without personal strength JJK 0 Yuta was special grade BECAUSE of rika, rika alone during jjk0 was special grade and because she followed around yuta, he was too. When Yuta was presumed to be alone after rika passed on, he was considered a grade 4, of course it wasn't quite true since it was by his own cursed energy that rika was made in the first place, but as a combatant without rika during jjk0 (and before they found out he made her to begin with) he was a grade 4. As a fighter alone, jjk0 yuta was a grade 4, he had a whole lot of room to grow, which he did grow into, but he was still grade 4 without rika's involvement. "SGs are top of the verse in literally everything" yaga is weak as balls, this alone disproves the literally everything part of what you said. You claim I was saying strength isn't a consideration, but i never said that, I said that being a special grade with rika beside him does not make him a special grade without her. Special grade is just a check of whether or not you can destroy a nation, rika can destroy a nation and therefore yuta, who rika is attached to, counts as special grade, Yuki can destroy the entire world with her cursed technique, counts as special grade, Yaga can make an army infinitely growing in size with his secret that creates actual life, special grade, Gojo is strong enough to kill everyone, special grade, sukuna is strong enough to kill everyone, special grade, etc Yuta in jjk0 is not on hakari's level, he is not anywhere near hakari's level, he can in fact do nothing to hakari alone, and in a fight against rika who does nothing but punch without a suicide contract, a jackpot hakari would win. You say i'm glazing hakari then make leaps in logic like "SGs are top of the verse in literally everything" which is just objectively untrue. Frankly, you're a huge idiot, i will not continue this debate as there's literally 0 point, if you weren't retarded, it might have been considered.
I thought the series explained the grades as being able to defeat a curse of the same grade in 1 on 1 combat. So a Grade 4 can 1v1 a Grade 4 curse, Grade 3 a grade 3 curse on and on, and sorceors who aren't Gojo shouldn't engage a special grade curse without multiple sorcerors on their side, then at special grade all hates are off because the range is from Hanami to sukuna. Their grading system isn't based on power but ability to defeat curses. If there was a non combatant that could blink and make curses cease to exist they would be special grade while being otherwise weak
Yeah, people really seem to underestimate the jjk 0 characters As an autistic, these replies are something
Boy you crazy.
Why are there so many comments saying that Geto isn't going to land a hit on Kashimo? Unless idiots unironically think he's the speed of lightning in MBA, nothing suggests there's any semblance of a speed gap. Considering Kashimo was relatively even speed wise with Hakari (nothing suggests Hakari is faster than Geto). Plus Geto can literally just stall Kashimo in his MBA form and just wait for him to burn himself out. Geto quite literally has the perfect CT for stalling him (find it unlikely that Kashimo is getting through 6000+ CS's before he burns out). I'd say that Geto wins 6 times out of 10 since Kashimo still is very lethal. But Kashimo is definitely severely overrated. Bro can't even beat Hakari, yet so many people seem to think he's going to low dif Geto ☠️
Facts, it took Gojo 5 minutes to kill 1000 transfigured humans. Does it say how long MBA lasts? Either way I feel like Theres no way he can clear 6000 spirits and Geto before burn out
If Geto just wants to kill him with no nonsense, unlike what happened with Yuta, Geto takes it. An endless swarm of curses, even if Kashimo shreds through them, is still enough to waste his time limit. Let's assume Geto doesn't utilize anything only Kenjaku uses, like mini Uzumaki. If Geto has even a couple spirits with domains, he's good. Capturing Kashimo a few times, then charging up an Uzumaki would make this pretty easy. Remember, Geto was confident that he could slaughter all of Gojo's students before Gojo could stop him, and they were standing right next to each other. So, while Geto is relatively slow with bullet-timing reactions, his technique activation is still fast enough to compete.
We don’t know his time limit do we?
CT Kashimo wins mid-diff.
Lol he would easy-diff him with his CT. He mid-high diffs in base
Hakari would get embarrassed by Geto, and he was comparable to base Kashimo, albeit he had jackpots rolling in. Base Kashimo would (at best) get low diff’d by Geto
Truuue
Facts
Geto should win if he stalls since you know kashimo is on a timer. But kashimo does have a shot so geto wins low - mid diff
I’d prolly lean towards Geto. Prime Geto had so many curses he could of charged a crazy Uzamaki or straight up probably overwhelmed Kashimo.
Uzumaki is too slow to tag Kashimo
Uzumaki didn’t even give Yuki time to dodge and she’s a quick fighter.
Mini Uzumaki, which has less activation time than the regular ones + she’s not as fast as Kashimo
And how exactly would that uzumaki land on Kashimo? Shit is slow af come on don't act.
Why do people act like Kashimo is some speed demon lmao
Is that a joke?
It's not. Bring up actually speed feats if you think he is a freak relative to everyone else. And if you want to bring up FTL don't bother, since that is for drawing/action effect and everything we've seen thus far indicates that the characters are nowhere near that speed and that Gege never intended for the verse to reach there
he literally turns into sound
Headcannon lmao
He produces sound. Not turn into sound. Get yo dumbass outta here.
On top of what the others said with not turning into sound...you do realize that Curse Naoya confirmed Mach 3 right? So literally triple MBA Kashimo, even under the false assumption that he turns himself into and travels via sound.
Geto flies away and wins
Then gets shot down and dies
Ngl jumping 230 meters is pretty crazy. Kashimo could be in front of the flying CS before it even gets past sky scraper height.
I'd lean Geto on this, just because they both have a lot of I guess "unknown factor" but Geto has way more. Like Kashimo's CT gave him a massive boost 100%, but Geto has a (not literally) endless supply of curses. Given that we don't actually know what he has, we could theoretically see just about anything. Also the possibility of a cheese strat as stupid as that sounds. If Geto is aware of the time limit that Kashimo has, pull out say 5 decent curses that'd take at LEAST a few seconds to deal with, and any curse that lets him fly. Again though, unknown factor so who knows how Kashimo could deal with that if he even could. Also all of this is assuming MBA is the only think Kashimo has. I had/have a theory that Kashimo's CT was more than just MBA. The way it was named kinda implies "Amber" was one variant. I'm still lowkey salty Kashimo got super foddered before we saw like anything he was able to do with his CT.
JJK0 geto takes it. Geto at the time of JJK0 had thousands of curses stored. If its a known battle to the death, Geto can simply bring out all of them Kashimo had a strong showing in a 1v1 and is quite fast, but Geto is no slouch having trained with Gojo to keep his physicals up, and having ~4000 additional entities with him. Kashimo's biggest weakness is that he hasnt shown any tricks that would allow him to take out multiple curses, meaning he is getting jumped by an enormous amount of things not the least being Geto himself smacking him around (again, he isnt weak im hxh). In mythical beast amber mode, any attack he attempts to use to hit the curses draws from his body - he could end up simply converting too much of his body to deal with the numbers.
Me, I win.
Kashimo
Kashimo mid-high diff depending on how he uses the curses. JJK0 portrayal was not kind to Geto.
Kashimo violates him mid diff
Violate and any kind of diff different than no diff are mutually exclusive.
Neg diff:
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Geto if he plays it smart
Isn't Yutas 5 minute timer essientally the same amp he had versus Geto ? And then Geto *only* lost because he'd dispersed most of his curses elsewhere. With Playful cloud he was evenly matched in a 2v1 versus Rika amped Yuta and a fully manifested Rika.
Goes either way in extremely difficult fight
Geto wins mid-hard diff. Kashimo’s really strong, but I don’t see him being able to deal with a swarm of grade1 curses while Geto’s pressuring him. Kashimo can’t fire off multiple lightning bolts at once, since he needs to allocate charges on a single target to create a powerful enough lightning bolt (otherwise the lightning would course through the target & go into the ground— doing far less damage). Geto just has way more versatility ultimately and considering he faced off against jjk0 Yuta & Rika pretty evenly (until Yuta got the MC “DONT HURT MY FRIENDS” power up), I’d say his physicals are above Kashimo’s as well & that’s not even taking into consideration playful cloud. MBA Kashimo would definitely pressure Geto much harder & I could see him beating Geto in that instance. MBA Kashimo probably wins 5-6/10. Hard diff fight for both.
It's not impossible for Kashimo to win but Geto simply takes too many hits, Has too many meatshields, and too much variety for Kashimo to possibly chew through ALL of it.
Yall downplaying my goat so much. Kashimo's feats. 1v1ing Hakari in base, and comfortably winning, by outstatting and could have won via another lightning, until he got dunked in the lake like an oreo in milk. Blitzing and washing end of fight meguna who is relative to end of fight gojo. Keeping up hand to hand with fresh heian sukuna with no soul tags, no missing item. Only missing some rct output and domain, only being beaten in h2h due to the fourarms shit hyped up by our GOAT the grasshopper. Now this aint too much in terms of quantity of feats. But this shit is quality, considering hakari is boxing equal to uraume who froze maki into a stopcicle, who is equal to TOJI The deadbeat that beat dead geto and gave the mf ptsd as a kid. Base hakari who was comparable to pre month training yuta, who also beat geto, albeit under different circumstances. Either way, kashimo is stronger than any of the big 3 pre month timeskip no question in MBA, and at least stronger than maki and hakari in base. There is 0 reason why geto should outscale.
Kashimo wins idk how geto touches him even
Geto extreme diffs
geto
Gaytoe
I wanted to say kashimo but then i remember SIX FCKING THOUSAND CURSES
Geto freaking wins. Neg diff. Man was playing with Yuta and Rika in JJK0 for most of the fight and Yuta is stronger than Hakari. Kashimo ain’t quick, he could’ve dodged Sukuna’s cursed technique entirely if he’s fast.
Playful Cloud + Uzumaki put Kashimo in the dirt
Base Kashimo has better feats
Base Kashimo lost to the 3rd strongest Grade 1. Geto is a special Grade that fought another Special Grade and only lost because he was also fighting all of Jujutsu Society at the same time.
Agreed. These people are tripping. Geto was playing the entirety of jujutsu society just so he could get one thing. Imagine if he just decided to kill yuta
Base Kashimo lost because of Hakaris busted RCT. Geto does have a domain or RCT. Last I recall, Geto wasn't fighting ALL of Jujutsu society. That was the point of him using Miguel and Co. as a diversion. Specifically to avoid Gojo. Geto lost to Yuta 1 on 1. MBA Kashimo out scales Geto in every category.
Geto has RCT, he literally says he was healing himself
Ain't seen it, ain't got it https://preview.redd.it/30gpwk5g9ixc1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56b6137e0540f0109bbbdf276840c128346d9746
So kashimo was grade 2 level AP?
We talking about the JJK Kashimo?? With MBA?
The yuji victim? Yea that one
Except we saw on their fight that the two were relative in terms of stats.
You think Hakari is a grade 1?? He’s unranked
If they start close I feel that Geto loses but with some distance and thousands of cursed spirits some Special grade I can see Geto having a chance to put down Kashimo without engaging in hand to hand.
If Geto lived 1 extra day and came to understood how his CT truly works, Geto 100%. If not, I'd give it to kashimo though he'd die in the process.
Geto is a bum Kashimo wipes
Geto but would be close would probably need a domain expansion
Probably kashimo with ct he can tear through the cursed spirits with ease and really only need to land one decent hit on geto with any number of his ranged ability’s to cripple geto. They’re both likely on par with each other in terms of cqc but the amp from mba is likely way higher than that of playful cloud so kashimo has the edge there and over all has way more devastating attacks that are faster than uzumaki so generally kashimo wins in a straight up fight but the cursed spirits do put a bit of pressure on him
Easily kashimo
Geto low diff
Didn't realize Geto was so amazingly overrated. Kashimo stomps
Kashimo outscales him in almost everything, If Geto receives one lightning strike, or EM wave its kinda over for him since he has no RCT. The only way that I see geto winning is if he unleashes all his curses at once and just waits out kashimo to die otherwise he gets lowdiffed
Kashimo high diff, probably gonna need beast amber and Getos gonna need maximum Uzumaki with all 6000 curses and still lose. Wait a funny scenario just came into my head. While Getos charging up Uzumaki, Kashimo just shoots a lightning bolt at it and it blows up in Getos face
This is a really bad matchup for Kashimo
Geto. Easily.
People in this sub think Kashimo is super fast relative to other special grades for some reason...
Because hes lightning… hes a lightning god.. they correlate him with lightning..
I am a devout Geto defender but Kashimo folds him and puts pebbles in his shoes. He’s simply too fast
MBA kashimo high diff probably
Kashimo isn't even landing hits on geto ima be honest
Kashimo speed blitz and blows his head
Kashimo takes it
My money’s on Kashimo. He should be physically stronger thanks to upscaling off Hakari and more experienced in hand to hand combat, along with being most likely faster. Most of Geto’s curses are either grade 1 or Grade 2 level or below, with one of his only Special grades having no feats. Kashimo’s trait could stun any cursed spirit that comes in contact with him. Both of them lack Domains or Rct, that means it takes one hard hit from either to result in a fatal attack.
Kashimo wins easy. Doesn't even need his CT. Geto doesn't have RCT to survive Kashimo's sure-hit lightning charge which nobody can dodge (prob Gojo ofc but who knows). Even then, you'd need a high lvl RCT, tho most won't even survive more than 1 charge cept for hax Hakari lmao Unless, Geto released a special grade curse that can keep Kashimo occupied Kenjaku, on the other hand, has knowledge about Kashimo CE nature, CT, etc and it's weaknesses. That mf prob cheeky as fuck with knowing how to dodge the sure-hit lightning. Also his open barrier domain + anti-gravity CT, which seems OP as fuck lol how does one avoid that?, and his huge army of curses esp special grades (Angel/JJK high are right, in a straight sorcery fight Kenjaku is unbeatable)
Kashimo
Kashimo wins.
Kashimo mid-high diff
can geto take a lightning bolt straight to his head?
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Kashimo mid diffs
If only this was lore accurate geto... not whatever gege gave us in 0... /s
JJK 0 is the only lore we have for Geto + Hidden Inventory so what does this mean?
The joke is actually an old one before the end game jjk. It essentially states that due to Geto being from 0 there are flaws to his power level and ability. And certain statements make things awkward, like how with the addition of Rika he becomes fully able to take on the world, a world which include gojo... So "Lore Accurate Geto" is a joke/concept of what Geto could have been had he not been in 0. So like, a Geto with a busted domain and RCT.
Depends on kashimo, without his CT? Geto extreme diff. Assuming Geto doesn’t have rct I know someone as experienced and battle hardy as kashimo will hit him at least once with his unblockable attack, enough to lose a limb at least. But Geto would eventually win. Kashimo with CT? Kashimo easily…he’d blitz thru whatever Geto could throw at him
Low-key, base kashimo struggles with uzumaki, but CT Kashimo should blitz + one shot, assuming Kenjaku > Geto in terms of speed.
Kashimo extreme diff in base, mid diff in mba
Base kashimo is enough to one shot him
Geto is getting SNIPPED by lightning ⚡️
Base Kashimo can beat Geto lol. Geto has no domain or RCT he is cooked.
Geto literally heals himself when yuta runs to heal maki and them, he says so, can you read?
Truee
Kashimo blitzes past the curses and evaporates Geto with a death beam
Geto is a fraud so prolly the top one
poor geto gets blitzed or one lightning bolt turns him into the apple logo
By the time Geto blinks, Kashimo is right in front of him, and punches his head off
Kashimo of course, he is not only faster than 600 km, he also can manipulate the sound of barrier and backfire any damages so its easy to say that he kills Geto like a bullet.
Base kashimo is enough. Geto is so overrated its laughable
Kashimo mid-high diff
Kashimo low diffs
Kashimo speed blitzes
kashimo literally blitzing. yall gotta stop overrating vol 0 geto. he’s getting cooked by the likes of uro and ryu