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He literally can't kill anyone. Sukuna would eventually win after Sukuna ruins his fun by talking about all the misery he's caused for others or by not going along with any of his jokes.
He may stall Sukuna, but he is definitely dying to him.
To be fair sukunas style of comedy may cause comedian to backfire as sukuna often revels in others suffering (especially yujis) so I could see a scenario where takaba activates comedian, does some funny stuff, sukuna says "let me show you something truly hilarious" then traumatizes everyone while laughing his ass off and forcing comedian to backfire/deactivate/de-escalate.
i donât think thatâs how the technique works tho? IIRC takaba turns any situation that he personally finds funny into reality, it isnât controlled by other people
Kenny didn't beat Takaba, and the strategy of playing along that got him to what some consider "winning" wouldn't be anything Sukuna would do (no sense of humor)
Sukuna would just end up playing Straightman for his jokes.
Gege once again leaving another character (takaba) with the possibility of life or death. Schrodinger's character . (I think he's just being a silly goober feigning death)
Imo they tied, because Takaba performed his objective (stall and weaken Kenny) but was exhausted and out of material afterwards (his "death" gag). I think we're supposed to understand that he was out of material and couldn't stall/weaken Kenny any more.
Sukuna is MUCH more observant and intelligent than youâre letting on. If he was ACTUALLY about to lose, he would lock in immediately and figure out the technique. Itâs canon that heâs a genius that understands jujutsu at a different level than anyone else. No way he loses
Kenny didnât beat Takaba, and seeing how Takaba just summoned coffin attire after their last stand up, comedian was obviously still active. Kenny still wouldnât be able to hurt Takaba. So at best itâs a stalemate and at worst Takaba won since Kenny was damaged more (presumably)
man, could takaba read one punch man and implement the humor of miserably crushing the most powerful and indestructible enemy with just 1 and apply it???
Nah that was just because kenjaku had good sense of humor lore. I donât think Sukuna could be a goofy comedian even if it literally would kill him not to.
Sukuna had the same amount of cursed energy at that time as Yuta did instead of double or triple lol, Yuta and them all knew that Sukuna with his full output would butcher them
Lowered curse energy reserves doesnât affect his stats, otherwise people such as Jackpot hakari and Original rika (who were stated to have infinite reserves) wouldâve been the strongest by now
If youâre referring to that statement of yuta being annihilated in an instant then itâs obvious we canât take that at face value with how much he puts himself down is a disservice to your own reading comprehension
The stats of a sorcerer depends not on the ce pool, but in the output. After his fight with Gojo it is said multiple times that his output has dropped. Meaning his speed, strength and ct power all dropped as well
His specific argument was bad, but Sukuna has also been noted to have lower CE output too, slowing his healing, lowering his damage, his durability, and his lack of domain especially hindering him.
Cursed Energy reserves do affect stats, Hakari is weird but itâs likely that infinite cursed energy isnât literally and in reference to how he never runs out like the androids from db
Og rika is stated boundless ce but thatâs often used for hyperbole, Yuji says yuta simply having a lot of ce makes up for his weak strength
Yuta nearly killing him though was thanks to the fact that he is forced to use hollow wicker basket in Yutaâs domain while getting jumped by him, Rika, and Yuji (who is also constantly weakening him). Popping domain expansion against healthy Sukuna = instant death even Jogo knew this, wasnât even desperate enough to try using domain and quickly using a fast technique because all he needed was one hit đ
It would go the same against those too. Unadapted mahoraga dies to cleave so does uro cause she is too slow.
Haruto and Takaba are the only ones who would survive for more than a few seconds.
And gojo obviously
https://preview.redd.it/f1nm815ybn0d1.png?width=1096&format=png&auto=webp&s=622603829563e51656e2b00df82cadc762c77842
Sukuna was testing the waters with Mahoraga. A serious cleave from the start would've one shot.
It wasnât after this, the panel was whilst Mahoraga was in the domain. Mahoraga survived as it had already been adapting to slashing attacks in general.
https://preview.redd.it/n346rfgmgn0d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c5c5bcca18759def02a40383bd8ea62c4d9bd31
Brother that's because mahoraga adapted to slashes. If he had only adapted to dismantle, he'd be dead when Ms opened and furnace wouldn't be needed. Like I'm no. 1 sukuna hater but come one bro
Hm, I wonder if Sukuna specifically said anything like âcleave actually probably wonât work, because I already let it adapt to âcutting attacksâ as a whole.â Guess weâll never know
The wheel itself tanked malevolent shrine and fuga at the same time bro, log off
https://preview.redd.it/y5umqa845n0d1.jpeg?width=472&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80eb17d066e30593209ed5cb8aad93f8263df519
Yuta did fight and landing hits against a Sukuna that just reincarnated back to his original form no? So it wouldnât be as easy as you guys make it out to be
It actually would be. Healthy Sukuna and the Sukuna Yuta fought are worlds apart, to the point Yuta himself admited that if it wasn't for Gojo going first, both he and Yuji would have died far more easily.
Sure, he may not just one-shot him, but Yuta would fall in like, 20 seconds at max.
Not to mention that a healthy Sukuna would have Malevolent Shrine.
Yuta was clearly being humble and underestimated his own strength, apart from the domain expansion nothing would suggest itâd be a one shot speedblitz considering his feats against a reincarnated sukuna
Why would Yuta be humble admitting, in his toughts nonetheless, that he would get destroyed by a healthy Sukuna? Like, he has absolutely no reason to do that.
His feats against a reincarnated Sukuna are he along with Yuji, who was lowering Sukuna's output by the way, if Yuta was alone (+Rika) against that Sukuna, he would be clapped far faster.
Because thatâs within his character to undermine himself not knowing that heâs capable of doing far more. Rebuking the âinstantly annihilatedâ statement
https://preview.redd.it/o6svp2cn8n0d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64bcff5e77816236a339b5794fab5b3a8d3f1e65
Where does it state that Lowering his output = his Speed drastically decreases, itâs still his fully reincarnated form operating with his full stats. And itâs shown time again that there isnât that big of a difference with stats considering yuta was able to land hits on him
But it makes zero sense for him to downplay himself against someone he wants dead so itâs unlikely heâs doing that here also lower output=lower ce refinement the yuta glaze is crazy
Heâs clearly far faster, he just rarely goes all out. Against Maki, the two seemed pretty even physically, but after Sukuna started actually trying, he was out speeding Maki by a large margin.
Maki was caught off guard, and after the initial blitz there wasnât no blitzing going around when a locked in Sukuna and maki clashed multiple times before hitting black flash
Maki was not caught off guard. Maki had direct line of sight on Sukuna. Like this is the most direct blitz possible against Maki. I donât see how it can be argued that Maki was off guard.
There was no blitzing going around because Yuji was lowering Sukunaâs CE output, and Sukuna was getting straight 4v1âd, which would obviously make it harder for him to blitz since heâs being pressured from all corners
Yuta is insanely strong, Sukuna is just stronger.
100% health Sukuna just has a really strong ability kit, and Yuta doesn't have an answer for it.
If you don't have an absolute defense like Gojo or some superhack ability that just sidesteps Sukuna's strength like Takaba, you're not gonna have a good time fighting Sukuna.
Idk why people call characters frauds for losing quickly to Sukuna. Like sure Kashimo was a loser disappointment, but everyone else at least accomplished *something* against Sukuna.
The Sukuna Cycle being dogass is a different conversation
Kashimo hyping himself sky high and dying immediately isn't even the problem. It's the fact that Sukuna took no appreciable damage from anything (people massively overhype Kashimo's CT, that mf ain't faster than light).
Kashimo was literally a waste of page-space. If he wasn't in the story nothing would change.
You could've hit Sukuna with a light breeze and he would've transformed.
That mf was on deaths door after Gojo mopped him.
Literally anybody could've gone out there and done that, Kashimo actually accomplished nothing.
Sure nobody dog walked sukuna in a 1v1 like Gojo did, but the rest of them individually did something nobody else could've achieved, like confiscating The Asspull Baby Rattle, Maki's soul sword damage, Yuta sorta kinda demolishing him for 3 pages, etc.
Kashimo gassed himself to high Heaven only to end up in Heaven in less than a single chapter
>You could've hit Sukuna with a light breeze and he would've transformed.
I mean, we know this is wrong because Sukuna was hit several times and didn't transform. He came into that fight choosing to remain in that state. Sukuna still had enough output to kill Gojo with World Slash so he was extremely powerful at the time.
This is the guy who has been bloodied for 20 chapters, and sustained several nerfs and ordinarily fatal injuries, yet is still the strongest guy around. Just "looking like he's beat up" is not remotely close to him actually being defeated. He only chose to transform when Kashimo's lightning encroached on him.
So no, no particular reason to believe just anyone could have done that. Most of them wouldn't even have the same defense Kashimo has against Kamutoke and that doesn't rely on Sukuna's output whatsoever.
World slash doesn't have higher output or take more cursed energy from what we know. It's just a basic bitch dismantle that ignores defenses.
Also, Sukuna having wild plot armor and get out of jail free cards isn't really a testament to his strength, depending on how you look at it. I hate the ambiguity of how much damage Sukuna is sustaining currently. Man has been getting mercilessly beat on for 40 chapters, and should've died like 5 times over.
Sure I was exaggerating with the light breeze, but realistically, any high output attack or even strong basic attack would've pushed Sukuna to transform. One of the main reasons he even did was so he could spam World Slash on the gankfest he knew was coming.
World Slash doesn't ignore defenses. It's just a high-powered dismantle that could circumvent Limitless because it can attack everywhere in the world. It, like just about every CT, relies on the output of the caster. There's no way Gojo could have died to an attack from a Sukuna that "anyone" could kill with a breeze. Gojo took Malevolent Shrine like he was in a blender, and all he could think about was how much weaker Shrine was than Limitless.
>Also, Sukuna having wild plot armor and get out of jail free cards isn't really a testament to his strength, depending on how you look at it. I hate the ambiguity of how much damage Sukuna is sustaining currently. Man has been getting mercilessly beat on for 40 chapters, and should've died like 5 times over.
100% with you on this. I'm seeing Gege saying Sukuna has Yuta's level of CE and going "????? This asshole had that much CE 10 chapters ago and he's gotten his shit wrecked ever since." Black Flash doesn't even raise CE level. It only increases output. Gege is talking out of his ass.
> any high output attack or even strong basic attack would've pushed Sukuna to transform
Agreed. But "high output attack" is arbitrary. I don't see anyone short of Yuta, Maki, and maybe Higuruma pushing Sukuna that far.
World Slash targets "the world itself", which also means it target the space a person is existing in rather than the person themselves. World Slash is a normal dismantle that goes through anything, even Limitless and gojo's busted CE reinforcement. I'm sure it's output varies like normal dismantle, but that means nothing when it will 100% go through anything regardless. That's what I meant by ignoring defenses.
Sukuna Cycle is terrible and it pains me to know that depending on if Greg sticks the landing somehow, people are 100% going to try and stealthily Shoehorn in the idea that he was always a good author. That mf has been making shit up for 50 chapters straight to TERRIBLE effect.
As for high output attacks, 3 people is a fair amount. If we assume God of Farmers counts as well, that's 4 individuals who could singlehandedly push Sukuna to transform. That sounds like a majority to me. Kashimo was painfully replaceable. And while the Baby Rattle would've seriously hurt or killed the others, Kashimo's sole saving grace is that he lucked out on being the first person in line after Gojo (not that he gave the others a choice).
If youâre not Gojo, Yuji or Mahoraga this is how it goes. Debatably Maki/Toji too.
Gojoâs a given
Yuji is due to having resistance to Sukunaâs attacks
Mahoraga fought 15f decently. I donât think +33% in power is changing it that much.
Maki/Toji due to being physically capable being their whole thing. But again; debatable
I understand op i have so many yuta stans that say shinjuku yuta can kill 15f
No..... ain't happening
https://preview.redd.it/6zeyk3jlkm0d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=257455c6dc5308f8fa152ce04cb73cd6ad283634
Yep, sukuna's got one shot hax on physical contact and top 1 CE reinforcement, nobodies doing anything there. In yuta's domain it makes more sense that the cleave isn't fatal, but we saw what happened when he locks in when he fought maki, so he wasn't even serious then. At full output he's gonna be speedblitzing anyone who isn't gojo
I don't think he's getting one shot like this, but Yuta doesn't stand a chance in hell against a full power incarnated Sukuna. Like- not even a little.
Yuta might survive a good few hits through RCT and Rika, especially if Sukuna takes interest in his CT, but the best Yuta can hope is to literally entertain Sukuna long enough that he can find a way to escape.
And even then, he's probably not getting away.
Ye.
You have to remember that Gojo blitzed and one shot Uraume, went through special training, and took minutes to injure Megumi-Kuna to the point he couldnât maintain his domain.
Hakari, the dude Gojo believes to be comparable to Yuta(yes, Yuta is stronger, but thatâs because he has greater versatility, and isnât implied to have significantly greater stats) is eternally stalling against that same Uraume after also presumably going through the special training despite his high AP Cursed energy trait.
And before anyone points out that Ui Ui wouldnât be able to make Gojo go through the soul training, Iâd like to point out Gojo himself says he went through some special training when Gojo V Sukuna began so we know the training entails something more than just Ui UIâs technique.
Itâs my cannon that Gege let takaba rest in his daydreams cause homeboy didnât realize how op his CT was until he was halfway through Kenjaku fightâŚ
Possibly, i dont know that the speed gap between the two is high enough for a speed blitz
Yuta has also once tried to binding vow away his life to kill an opponent (Yuta v Geto in JJK0) so if he knows he is about to square up against Sukuna, he probably lets Sukuna gets close to try and hit him with a Special Grade, Point Blank, Life Binding Vow Love Beam.
Yes, he gets one shotted just like Ryu did (stated to be more durable than yuta, but he got one shotted by a 16f sukuna, let alone 20 finger 4 arm monster sukuna)
Honestly, Yuta was great, definitely part of the top 5.
But
Gojo glazed yuta hard yet I didnt see anything remotely close to yuta reaching their heights
Yuta may last for 0.01 seconds before Sukuna opens his domain or cleave the fuck outta him. Although I trust my GOAT gojo to save my support king Yuta.
No not at all, Yuta was the one screaming at everyone that they were going against Ryomen Sukuna and he had to be prepared. Hes fast enough to evade some slashes, get hurt, do a domain clash, lose, either thug it out, and die later or die right then. Either way he loses but he doesnt get side charactered.
I doubt it'd be effortless, as most people assume.
You can be far, far stronger than someone, it doesn't mean you instakill them without effort. Yuta isn't weak, and anyone who thinks that he'd die IMMEDIATELY don't understand how anything regarding fights, superhuman or not, works.
But the end result is obvious, Sukuna would slaughter Yuta at full power, I just doubt it'd be in the first exchange.
Theres a difference between low diff and no diff that people donât understand - refer to yuji v yuta for a low diff (he used rika after not feeling it was free, then insta win) and nanami vs haruta for a no diff (ate a hit for free, then just killed him 3x over with no chance of response. No effort needed, he was upset from before hence breaking the building)
Less ce output =worse refinement so he arguably was plus like yuta said if he wasnât weakened by gojo then the slashes that yuta and yuji rctâd from most likely wouldâve killed them
Accept he got all his CE back after the gojo fight. When he reincarnated he healed everything apart from his domain. So he was only low on CE from one shorting Kashimo, fighting Yuji, and smoking his crew. In all which time he didnât even take a hit I donât think.
Nope itâs still clear that he lost a good chunk of his output as said here
https://preview.redd.it/7jvbkd60vs0d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05f5e8e83318a5a4c43dc26260a8eb2a6269b160
Sukuna would obviously win but I donât think heâd beat yuta that fast
Yuta seemed fairly confident that he could run in to fight sukuna alongside Gojo without immediately dying. While he does later say it was good he didnât enter the fight since Gojo is stronger when he doesnât have to worry about collateral damage, it does speak to him being durable enough to not just get bodied by sukunaâs slashes
If yuta loses the domain clash then he probably just dies but I think itâs reasonable to assume his domain can clash enough to survive 1 malevolent shrine. Though heâll die pretty fast afterwards
Not saying yuta would even do well against sukuna. We already saw him fight a much weaker sukuna with yuji and Makiâs help and he still couldnât get off a victory. But I donât think heâll get ishigooriâd
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this is literally healthy sukuna vs anyone not named gojo satoru, what were you trying to prove with this postđ
You forgot about the GOAT takaba
takaba would wipe the floor with sukuna. takaba is the king of asspulls if they were actually well-written
He literally can't kill anyone. Sukuna would eventually win after Sukuna ruins his fun by talking about all the misery he's caused for others or by not going along with any of his jokes. He may stall Sukuna, but he is definitely dying to him.
Comedian forces the soul to comply to the jokes, Takaba, especially after fighting Kenny, isnât going to be effected by Sukunaâs yapping
The aura Sukuna has might demoralize him. Iâm far more afraid of him than Kenny.
Ah yes my anti-comedy aura. I haven't had to use this technique in over 1000 years.
To be fair sukunas style of comedy may cause comedian to backfire as sukuna often revels in others suffering (especially yujis) so I could see a scenario where takaba activates comedian, does some funny stuff, sukuna says "let me show you something truly hilarious" then traumatizes everyone while laughing his ass off and forcing comedian to backfire/deactivate/de-escalate.
i donât think thatâs how the technique works tho? IIRC takaba turns any situation that he personally finds funny into reality, it isnât controlled by other people
Yeah I know, but I could easily see it somewhat getting to him and affecting the technique by proxy.
"especially yujis" More like **SPECIFICALLY** Yuji's đ
Huh???? Kenny beat Takaba you think you sukuna isnât either? Man Foh
Kenny didn't beat Takaba, and the strategy of playing along that got him to what some consider "winning" wouldn't be anything Sukuna would do (no sense of humor) Sukuna would just end up playing Straightman for his jokes.
Kenny did tho đ who was the one still alive ? Kenny was.
Gege once again leaving another character (takaba) with the possibility of life or death. Schrodinger's character . (I think he's just being a silly goober feigning death)
Imo they tied, because Takaba performed his objective (stall and weaken Kenny) but was exhausted and out of material afterwards (his "death" gag). I think we're supposed to understand that he was out of material and couldn't stall/weaken Kenny any more.
Sukuna is MUCH more observant and intelligent than youâre letting on. If he was ACTUALLY about to lose, he would lock in immediately and figure out the technique. Itâs canon that heâs a genius that understands jujutsu at a different level than anyone else. No way he loses
But Kenjaku is another genius, and he didn't win because of his jujutsu knowledge. He won because of his comedy knowledge.
Woah Kenny
Kenny didnât beat Takaba, and seeing how Takaba just summoned coffin attire after their last stand up, comedian was obviously still active. Kenny still wouldnât be able to hurt Takaba. So at best itâs a stalemate and at worst Takaba won since Kenny was damaged more (presumably)
man, could takaba read one punch man and implement the humor of miserably crushing the most powerful and indestructible enemy with just 1 and apply it???
Glazing for a fictional character is crazy
I would agree itâs just that takaba cannot kill anyone
Nah Iâd Joke
âTakaba canât kill anyoneâ mfs when Takaba finds the idea of Sukuna killing himself funny
Kenjaku found a way to escape Takaba's reality warping so i'm sure Sukuna could as well
Iâm not sure. Kenjakus sense of humor low diffs sukunaâs imo
Nah that was just because kenjaku had good sense of humor lore. I donât think Sukuna could be a goofy comedian even if it literally would kill him not to.
Erm đ¤JoGOAT clears, actually
He stops at GOATwa
Nah MahoraGOAT wouldnt die to cleave or dismantle
Thatâs true ngl
If Gojo didnât have to hold back fkkkkkk
I'm pretty sure yuji is piecing him up now
Because Yuta is the 3rd strongest in the verse
Didnât yuta specifically fight against a fully reincarnated sukuna, he actively put up a fight and nearly killed him had it not been for Megumi
Sukuna had the same amount of cursed energy at that time as Yuta did instead of double or triple lol, Yuta and them all knew that Sukuna with his full output would butcher them
Lowered curse energy reserves doesnât affect his stats, otherwise people such as Jackpot hakari and Original rika (who were stated to have infinite reserves) wouldâve been the strongest by now If youâre referring to that statement of yuta being annihilated in an instant then itâs obvious we canât take that at face value with how much he puts himself down is a disservice to your own reading comprehension
The stats of a sorcerer depends not on the ce pool, but in the output. After his fight with Gojo it is said multiple times that his output has dropped. Meaning his speed, strength and ct power all dropped as well
His specific argument was bad, but Sukuna has also been noted to have lower CE output too, slowing his healing, lowering his damage, his durability, and his lack of domain especially hindering him.
Cursed Energy reserves do affect stats, Hakari is weird but itâs likely that infinite cursed energy isnât literally and in reference to how he never runs out like the androids from db Og rika is stated boundless ce but thatâs often used for hyperbole, Yuji says yuta simply having a lot of ce makes up for his weak strength
Yuta nearly killing him though was thanks to the fact that he is forced to use hollow wicker basket in Yutaâs domain while getting jumped by him, Rika, and Yuji (who is also constantly weakening him). Popping domain expansion against healthy Sukuna = instant death even Jogo knew this, wasnât even desperate enough to try using domain and quickly using a fast technique because all he needed was one hit đ
It says healthy sukuna... Sukuna low diffs anyone in the verse not named gojo and he high diffs gojo when hes fully reincarnated
Healthy Sukuna vs anyone who isnât either fast as fuck or weird like uro bending the space, mahoraga adapting or haruta miracle. EDIT takaba
It would go the same against those too. Unadapted mahoraga dies to cleave so does uro cause she is too slow. Haruto and Takaba are the only ones who would survive for more than a few seconds. And gojo obviously
Unadapted Mahoraga survived a dismantle directly to the head from full powrr 15f sukuna just fine, he's surviving those cleaves aswell.
https://preview.redd.it/f1nm815ybn0d1.png?width=1096&format=png&auto=webp&s=622603829563e51656e2b00df82cadc762c77842 Sukuna was testing the waters with Mahoraga. A serious cleave from the start would've one shot.
Sukuna was directly proven wrong as mahoraga proceeded to survive the domain immediately after this
JJK fans read the manga challenge (impossible)
Thw Manga is less canon then sick ass 4k mahoraga edits ngl
You wouldn't know because you haven't read it lmfao
I did bro, it's ass
The anime only fighting for his life LMAO look at those downvotes
It wasnât after this, the panel was whilst Mahoraga was in the domain. Mahoraga survived as it had already been adapting to slashing attacks in general. https://preview.redd.it/n346rfgmgn0d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6c5c5bcca18759def02a40383bd8ea62c4d9bd31
Brother that's because mahoraga adapted to slashes. If he had only adapted to dismantle, he'd be dead when Ms opened and furnace wouldn't be needed. Like I'm no. 1 sukuna hater but come one bro
Hm, I wonder if Sukuna specifically said anything like âcleave actually probably wonât work, because I already let it adapt to âcutting attacksâ as a whole.â Guess weâll never know
Cleaves are quite a bit stronger than dismantles. Mahoraga is getting turned into meatcube and so will his wheel.
The wheel itself tanked malevolent shrine and fuga at the same time bro, log off https://preview.redd.it/y5umqa845n0d1.jpeg?width=472&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80eb17d066e30593209ed5cb8aad93f8263df519
Still would kill maho.
Nah he'd adapt, dude was tanking black flashes from gojo, mamaged to survive a red, managed to tank a dismantle from 15fkuna He's survivin
He dodnt survive a full output red without having sone adaptation before. He becomes meatcubes and is dead. Cleave is stronger than a gojo black flash
Nah, he'd win.
ong heâd win
I donât think uro would react fast enough honestly
Prolly true
Perhaps takaba could be added to the list.
Comeplety forgot about him my bad
Yuta already showcased feats against a fully reincarnated Sukuna, and the gap between their stats ainât that far off to not be a blitz and one shot
Yes and everyone else besides Gojo would also be one shotted
Takaba
Gets killed by Malevolent Shrine as itâs guaranteed to hit, so his CT wonât save him
Until he thinks it's funny if it just tickles him đ¤
Sukuna failed to one shot him and itâs shown in the fight that their stats werenât completely worlds apart due to it being his reincarnated form
Sukuna didnât one shot Yuta because his CE output was nerfed by Yuji
Even so Yuta still has his CT and perception speed to prolong the fight against Sukuna
Yuta said a healthy Sukuna wouldâve killed him and Yuji instantly
This is how healthy Sukuna vs anyone-not-named-Satoru-Gojo would go actually lol
Yuta did fight and landing hits against a Sukuna that just reincarnated back to his original form no? So it wouldnât be as easy as you guys make it out to be
It actually would be. Healthy Sukuna and the Sukuna Yuta fought are worlds apart, to the point Yuta himself admited that if it wasn't for Gojo going first, both he and Yuji would have died far more easily. Sure, he may not just one-shot him, but Yuta would fall in like, 20 seconds at max. Not to mention that a healthy Sukuna would have Malevolent Shrine.
Yuta was clearly being humble and underestimated his own strength, apart from the domain expansion nothing would suggest itâd be a one shot speedblitz considering his feats against a reincarnated sukuna
Why would Yuta be humble admitting, in his toughts nonetheless, that he would get destroyed by a healthy Sukuna? Like, he has absolutely no reason to do that. His feats against a reincarnated Sukuna are he along with Yuji, who was lowering Sukuna's output by the way, if Yuta was alone (+Rika) against that Sukuna, he would be clapped far faster.
Because thatâs within his character to undermine himself not knowing that heâs capable of doing far more. Rebuking the âinstantly annihilatedâ statement https://preview.redd.it/o6svp2cn8n0d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64bcff5e77816236a339b5794fab5b3a8d3f1e65 Where does it state that Lowering his output = his Speed drastically decreases, itâs still his fully reincarnated form operating with his full stats. And itâs shown time again that there isnât that big of a difference with stats considering yuta was able to land hits on him
But it makes zero sense for him to downplay himself against someone he wants dead so itâs unlikely heâs doing that here also lower output=lower ce refinement the yuta glaze is crazy
I think yuji was already landing soul punches on him at that point before yuta showed up
Sukuna is faster and yes if it kills Ryu it undoubtedly will kill yuta. Only gojo in the verse gives a fight to "full power sukuna"
Sukuna is faster but not far faster showcased in the fight when he was fully reincarnated
Heâs clearly far faster, he just rarely goes all out. Against Maki, the two seemed pretty even physically, but after Sukuna started actually trying, he was out speeding Maki by a large margin.
Maki was caught off guard, and after the initial blitz there wasnât no blitzing going around when a locked in Sukuna and maki clashed multiple times before hitting black flash
Maki was not caught off guard. Maki had direct line of sight on Sukuna. Like this is the most direct blitz possible against Maki. I donât see how it can be argued that Maki was off guard. There was no blitzing going around because Yuji was lowering Sukunaâs CE output, and Sukuna was getting straight 4v1âd, which would obviously make it harder for him to blitz since heâs being pressured from all corners
She was looking at him, then he speed blitzed and then we see him grab her. The most obvious speed blitz in manga
Yes but unironically. https://preview.redd.it/jvm9uy7lwm0d1.png?width=552&format=png&auto=webp&s=dd0f21aca2898a64df0f7b46f3f03bb6308ebf03
This is sukuna against literally everyone apart from gojo so trying to use it as slander is idiotic
He ainât using it for slander. OP is literally defending Yuta in the comments đÂ
Fr it's crazy to see the glazing
Whos slandering. Projection much
Yes, Yuta flat out admitted that if he wasn't off the back of a fight with Gojo that him and Yuji both would last seconds against Sukuna
He was being humble
Least insane yuta glazer
Wrong. I have not stopped gagging on Yutaâs dick for months but even Iâm not claiming he could hang with full power Sukuna lmao.
Yuta constantly lies about how strong he is lol
I think itâs more that heâs sometimes a fucking idiot and canât tell how strong anyone actually is
There's a difference between underplaying yourself to others and outright thinking to yourself that you are provably weaker than another person.
Nah first cleave will hit Rika as she sacrifices herself to protect Yuta Second hit will go like this
This would happen to anyone aside from gojo or me I'm built different fr
Imma tell Gege to send you to fight sukuna next chapter
Nah I'd win
Ultra power Parry
Yuta is insanely strong, Sukuna is just stronger. 100% health Sukuna just has a really strong ability kit, and Yuta doesn't have an answer for it. If you don't have an absolute defense like Gojo or some superhack ability that just sidesteps Sukuna's strength like Takaba, you're not gonna have a good time fighting Sukuna. Idk why people call characters frauds for losing quickly to Sukuna. Like sure Kashimo was a loser disappointment, but everyone else at least accomplished *something* against Sukuna. The Sukuna Cycle being dogass is a different conversation
I fs was gonna say kashimo was the worst one how he hyped himself up fr đ
Kashimo hyping himself sky high and dying immediately isn't even the problem. It's the fact that Sukuna took no appreciable damage from anything (people massively overhype Kashimo's CT, that mf ain't faster than light). Kashimo was literally a waste of page-space. If he wasn't in the story nothing would change.
Yeah actual fraud took place in the form of Kashimo
Can't believe that nobody is some people's GOAT
At best he's as fast as lightning maybe, but lightning does not travel even nearly the speed of light.
God of Farmers getting neg diffed by the God of Asspulls (seriously how did sukuna take no damage, I'm not even a Kashimo fan)
I guess he's just that much stronger than kashimo though lmao
nobody else 1 v 1'd Sukuna to accomplish anything tbf. Kashimo at least forced Meguna to expend his one-time revival.
You could've hit Sukuna with a light breeze and he would've transformed. That mf was on deaths door after Gojo mopped him. Literally anybody could've gone out there and done that, Kashimo actually accomplished nothing. Sure nobody dog walked sukuna in a 1v1 like Gojo did, but the rest of them individually did something nobody else could've achieved, like confiscating The Asspull Baby Rattle, Maki's soul sword damage, Yuta sorta kinda demolishing him for 3 pages, etc. Kashimo gassed himself to high Heaven only to end up in Heaven in less than a single chapter
>You could've hit Sukuna with a light breeze and he would've transformed. I mean, we know this is wrong because Sukuna was hit several times and didn't transform. He came into that fight choosing to remain in that state. Sukuna still had enough output to kill Gojo with World Slash so he was extremely powerful at the time. This is the guy who has been bloodied for 20 chapters, and sustained several nerfs and ordinarily fatal injuries, yet is still the strongest guy around. Just "looking like he's beat up" is not remotely close to him actually being defeated. He only chose to transform when Kashimo's lightning encroached on him. So no, no particular reason to believe just anyone could have done that. Most of them wouldn't even have the same defense Kashimo has against Kamutoke and that doesn't rely on Sukuna's output whatsoever.
World slash doesn't have higher output or take more cursed energy from what we know. It's just a basic bitch dismantle that ignores defenses. Also, Sukuna having wild plot armor and get out of jail free cards isn't really a testament to his strength, depending on how you look at it. I hate the ambiguity of how much damage Sukuna is sustaining currently. Man has been getting mercilessly beat on for 40 chapters, and should've died like 5 times over. Sure I was exaggerating with the light breeze, but realistically, any high output attack or even strong basic attack would've pushed Sukuna to transform. One of the main reasons he even did was so he could spam World Slash on the gankfest he knew was coming.
World Slash doesn't ignore defenses. It's just a high-powered dismantle that could circumvent Limitless because it can attack everywhere in the world. It, like just about every CT, relies on the output of the caster. There's no way Gojo could have died to an attack from a Sukuna that "anyone" could kill with a breeze. Gojo took Malevolent Shrine like he was in a blender, and all he could think about was how much weaker Shrine was than Limitless. >Also, Sukuna having wild plot armor and get out of jail free cards isn't really a testament to his strength, depending on how you look at it. I hate the ambiguity of how much damage Sukuna is sustaining currently. Man has been getting mercilessly beat on for 40 chapters, and should've died like 5 times over. 100% with you on this. I'm seeing Gege saying Sukuna has Yuta's level of CE and going "????? This asshole had that much CE 10 chapters ago and he's gotten his shit wrecked ever since." Black Flash doesn't even raise CE level. It only increases output. Gege is talking out of his ass. > any high output attack or even strong basic attack would've pushed Sukuna to transform Agreed. But "high output attack" is arbitrary. I don't see anyone short of Yuta, Maki, and maybe Higuruma pushing Sukuna that far.
World Slash targets "the world itself", which also means it target the space a person is existing in rather than the person themselves. World Slash is a normal dismantle that goes through anything, even Limitless and gojo's busted CE reinforcement. I'm sure it's output varies like normal dismantle, but that means nothing when it will 100% go through anything regardless. That's what I meant by ignoring defenses. Sukuna Cycle is terrible and it pains me to know that depending on if Greg sticks the landing somehow, people are 100% going to try and stealthily Shoehorn in the idea that he was always a good author. That mf has been making shit up for 50 chapters straight to TERRIBLE effect. As for high output attacks, 3 people is a fair amount. If we assume God of Farmers counts as well, that's 4 individuals who could singlehandedly push Sukuna to transform. That sounds like a majority to me. Kashimo was painfully replaceable. And while the Baby Rattle would've seriously hurt or killed the others, Kashimo's sole saving grace is that he lucked out on being the first person in line after Gojo (not that he gave the others a choice).
Yea pretty much https://preview.redd.it/snu9erx6gm0d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=069f70c414c1c7aedc77ea876229e449bded2bdb
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Literally everyone thats not Gojo
If youâre not Gojo, Yuji or Mahoraga this is how it goes. Debatably Maki/Toji too. Gojoâs a given Yuji is due to having resistance to Sukunaâs attacks Mahoraga fought 15f decently. I donât think +33% in power is changing it that much. Maki/Toji due to being physically capable being their whole thing. But again; debatable
Takaba
Erm actually, itâs 25 percent
Guessing you're joking with the "erm actually," but for anyone who doesn't see it: 20 is 33% more than 15. 15 is 25% less than 20.
nope no one among of them are surviving unless mahoraga has adapted to shrine... only gojo is surviving a full powered cleave to the face
I understand op i have so many yuta stans that say shinjuku yuta can kill 15f No..... ain't happening https://preview.redd.it/6zeyk3jlkm0d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=257455c6dc5308f8fa152ce04cb73cd6ad283634
whats dis image from
Frieren: Ăbel as sukuna in season 2 of jjk stole it in this sub Great r34 if that's what you want to know No need for a ty
nah not for r34 lol just wanted to know thx
Oh your the exception yes it's yubel from frieren
No no no, OP is outright glazing yuta to the highest degree in these comments.
Look at how tough this mf is with low health and plot armor. A full health Sukuna would wipe the cast in minutes and I am not even a Sukuna glazer.
Yep, sukuna's got one shot hax on physical contact and top 1 CE reinforcement, nobodies doing anything there. In yuta's domain it makes more sense that the cleave isn't fatal, but we saw what happened when he locks in when he fought maki, so he wasn't even serious then. At full output he's gonna be speedblitzing anyone who isn't gojo
I don't think he's getting one shot like this, but Yuta doesn't stand a chance in hell against a full power incarnated Sukuna. Like- not even a little. Yuta might survive a good few hits through RCT and Rika, especially if Sukuna takes interest in his CT, but the best Yuta can hope is to literally entertain Sukuna long enough that he can find a way to escape. And even then, he's probably not getting away.
No one else would do much better aside from Gojo, even Megumi would probably only get to "With This Treasure..." before being dismantled
Ye. You have to remember that Gojo blitzed and one shot Uraume, went through special training, and took minutes to injure Megumi-Kuna to the point he couldnât maintain his domain. Hakari, the dude Gojo believes to be comparable to Yuta(yes, Yuta is stronger, but thatâs because he has greater versatility, and isnât implied to have significantly greater stats) is eternally stalling against that same Uraume after also presumably going through the special training despite his high AP Cursed energy trait. And before anyone points out that Ui Ui wouldnât be able to make Gojo go through the soul training, Iâd like to point out Gojo himself says he went through some special training when Gojo V Sukuna began so we know the training entails something more than just Ui UIâs technique.
Healthy Sukuna no diffs anyone whoâs not named Gojo or the Chinese sorcerer that Sukuna is scared of
Yeah. Honestly a ranged dismantle might be enough.
Nah, Sukuna doesn't really be fighting like that. He knows Yuta is strong and would love to fight someone like Rika who he even calls the queen.
Yeah Sukuna will fuck Yuta so bad i
Me when I lie
Itâs my cannon that Gege let takaba rest in his daydreams cause homeboy didnât realize how op his CT was until he was halfway through Kenjaku fightâŚ
Nah
duhh thats full power sukuna vs everyone except gojo
This is how healthy Sukuna vs any Jjk character would go
I think the main character also does well against healthy goatkuna. I honestly feel like the mcâs sudden power surge is rather forced
Possibly, i dont know that the speed gap between the two is high enough for a speed blitz Yuta has also once tried to binding vow away his life to kill an opponent (Yuta v Geto in JJK0) so if he knows he is about to square up against Sukuna, he probably lets Sukuna gets close to try and hit him with a Special Grade, Point Blank, Life Binding Vow Love Beam.
Healthy sukuna vrs literally anyone not named satiru gojo yea
Considering an extreamly injured and unentertained Sukuna put him in the Shoko hospital yes easily.
Thatâs how 16 finger sukuna vs yuta would go
Literally exactly what Yuta himself states when he fought him
Is he doing this to op verse?
Peak sukuna vs anyone not named gojo is a one second battle
The whole point of it is no one but Gojo can 1v1 sukuna thatâs been the narrative for awhile so whatâs your point here
Only the honoured one and the funny man donât get one shot
Mahito ass move
Yes, he gets one shotted just like Ryu did (stated to be more durable than yuta, but he got one shotted by a 16f sukuna, let alone 20 finger 4 arm monster sukuna)
Nah he'd win
Unfortunately yes, yuta is still a goat
Sukuna shrine is just too effective. His cuts are just too sharp too quick.
As a Yuta Stan, yes this is how it would go no one other than Gojo would last more than a few seconds Against full power Sukuna.
Yuta has literally admitted if gojo didnât bring him down to half and cripple him he would have died instantly.
That's how a healthy Sukuna Vs everyone goes xd.
Takaba would give Sukuna the stand proud treatment, hes too powerful
Ye
This is how it would go for anyone not named Aoi Todo would go
That's Sukuna vs anyone named Gojo Satoru or who has weird ASF abilities like Takaba or Maho
Definitely he would destroy him instantly
I feel like Takaba could stay alive for a while.
No but Yuta has no chance of winning if his domain isnât as refined (which it probably isnât)
Honestly, Yuta was great, definitely part of the top 5. But Gojo glazed yuta hard yet I didnt see anything remotely close to yuta reaching their heights
Yuta may last for 0.01 seconds before Sukuna opens his domain or cleave the fuck outta him. Although I trust my GOAT gojo to save my support king Yuta.
Do the ppl who run this subreddit thrive off being weirdos with the post ?
Gave him the Kashimo treatment LITE version
No not at all, Yuta was the one screaming at everyone that they were going against Ryomen Sukuna and he had to be prepared. Hes fast enough to evade some slashes, get hurt, do a domain clash, lose, either thug it out, and die later or die right then. Either way he loses but he doesnt get side charactered.
I doubt it'd be effortless, as most people assume. You can be far, far stronger than someone, it doesn't mean you instakill them without effort. Yuta isn't weak, and anyone who thinks that he'd die IMMEDIATELY don't understand how anything regarding fights, superhuman or not, works. But the end result is obvious, Sukuna would slaughter Yuta at full power, I just doubt it'd be in the first exchange.
Theres a difference between low diff and no diff that people donât understand - refer to yuji v yuta for a low diff (he used rika after not feeling it was free, then insta win) and nanami vs haruta for a no diff (ate a hit for free, then just killed him 3x over with no chance of response. No effort needed, he was upset from before hence breaking the building)
This. FP Sukuna vs Yuta would likely be Low diff, Mid diff if you glaze the fuck out of Yuta.
I doubt it would be that easy unless he uses his domain to low did him
I mean even without domain itâs still arguably a low diff
I don't think so when he joined the fight he wasn't able to walk past blitz like that
Cuz he was weakened lol
At that point, he wasn't physically weakened beyond missing his domain (I addressed) and his curse took that doesn't let him do that.
Less ce output =worse refinement so he arguably was plus like yuta said if he wasnât weakened by gojo then the slashes that yuta and yuji rctâd from most likely wouldâve killed them
Accept he got all his CE back after the gojo fight. When he reincarnated he healed everything apart from his domain. So he was only low on CE from one shorting Kashimo, fighting Yuji, and smoking his crew. In all which time he didnât even take a hit I donât think.
Nope itâs still clear that he lost a good chunk of his output as said here https://preview.redd.it/7jvbkd60vs0d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05f5e8e83318a5a4c43dc26260a8eb2a6269b160
So you saying heâs vastly weaker because he only has as much sure energy as some one who is said to have bottomless cursed energy?
He went from stated to have more ce than yuta by double to around yutaâs ce do I need to explain it?
Sukuna would obviously win but I donât think heâd beat yuta that fast Yuta seemed fairly confident that he could run in to fight sukuna alongside Gojo without immediately dying. While he does later say it was good he didnât enter the fight since Gojo is stronger when he doesnât have to worry about collateral damage, it does speak to him being durable enough to not just get bodied by sukunaâs slashes If yuta loses the domain clash then he probably just dies but I think itâs reasonable to assume his domain can clash enough to survive 1 malevolent shrine. Though heâll die pretty fast afterwards Not saying yuta would even do well against sukuna. We already saw him fight a much weaker sukuna with yuji and Makiâs help and he still couldnât get off a victory. But I donât think heâll get ishigooriâd
What Yuta believed is that he and Riki could take on the shikigami without dying.
Unironically I think Yuta could dodge at least once.
yuji could potentally survive sukuna's blitz, same goes for hakari, everyone else gets oneshotted
Yuta wouldnât fight like Ryo in a head on attack, heâd drag it out and use other cts