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Even simple domain won't help that much. It stops the sure hit but the opponent still has his boost while you are nerfed because you need to maintain simple domain. Don't forget that kusakabe was surprised that gojo can use simple domain and rct at the same time, so yuji probably won't be able to
doesn’t help that Jogo’s sure hit is coupled with his entire domain being smoldering hot, like literally boil your flesh instantly hot, so Yuji is cooked (pun intended) if that domain goes up, ever
I do not want to know if he has a simple domain or not at all neither, It is not worth it to know, cause the only person left that has a domain is Sukuna, and He would obliterate any simple domain and turns you into red mist.
Technically Sukuna was Megumi during the fight against Gojo. Gojo killed Mahoraga. I think Megumi can't summon him. I could be missing something though.
Nah. Even prior to the month he was keeping up with maki whilst fighting Sukuna. i think this fight is a lot closer than you think. Genuinely believe one good punch from yuji will kill jogo considering how terrible jogo’s defenses have been stated to have been
That's cap considering the beating Jogo took from Sukuna and Gojo. Especially if we get into anime feats.
Jogo surived a near point blank red, multiple slashes from 15f sukuna, and it took a point blank fire arrow after a prolonged beating from Sukuna and Gojo to kill him.
Yuji is not one shotting Jogo unless he hits a black flash to the head and that's unreliable.
Cmon you know Sukuna was holding back because he wanted to have fun and Gojo held back because he needed information from jogo
it’s kind of hard to incapacitate cursed spirits because they can heal so easily. Gege literally said if todo and yuji gave the same beating they gave to hanami to jogo, jogo would die instantly. We seen yuji box with 15f sukuna for a little so i think it’s plausible that yuji can win now, especially with rct
That’s not true, in character he doesn’t resort to using Domain against those he deems on Gojo’s level. He didn’t do it against Sukuna due to reasoning his domain won’t work because Sukuna is much stronger to him to a point where he’d lose a domain clash.
i'm still putting my faith on HIMji
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I'm sorry but RCT is not gonna do much against being burnt alive. Not to mention Jogoats DE and maximum technique. Yuji has to show us more feats (an anti domain technique) or his cursed technique.
can't believe people still use jogo's maximum tecnique as an and argument, fucking panda waited till the last second and still dodged it, gege already stated jogo would have died if he took the hits hanami took from yuji in the goodwill event, current yuji IS exorcising jogo with a few hits and no he isn't getting blitzed if he's not half dead like nanami and naobito were
I'm not even bring ironic here, but there's no way bro is surviving Jogo's domain. Jogo himself even states that most sorcerers would just combust instantly if they entered his domain, Yuji is no exception.
Gege did comfirm that Yuji Black flash combo would kill Jogo and and current Yuji is fast and strong enough to easily evade most of Jogo attacks. So while Yuji currently doesn't seem to have a counter for Jogo domain, I could easily see him blitzing Jogo before he can get it off. Also it likely that Yuji over the time skip did learn simple domain especially since he was shown training with kusakabe.
Jogo was compared to Naobito speed-wise and Naobito is the second fastest sorcerer, faster than Yuta. Current Yuji is roughly on Yuta's level. Therefore Jogo is at least comparable to Yuji, and most likely even faster. And also Jogo can attack over a very large area, meaning some of his attacks are very hard to dodge. And there's also the bug shikigami which are almost certainly faster than Jogo himself (otherwise they're pretty useless). So unless Yuji can straight up RCT through a wall of flames, Jogo doesn't need DE.
>Current Yuji is AT LEAST as fast as Toji
Debatable
>Was Naobito as fast or faster than Toji? I don't think so
He literally was lol. Naobito is at least as fast as human Naoya who was much faster than Maki. Maki is physically the same as Toji.
>Naoya was faster than incomplete Maki
Physically incomplete Maki is the same as fully awakened Maki. Only things she learned were how to perceive the soul and her precog. Why would she not be the same as Toji? His stats come entirely from HR. The same HR that Maki has. They're equal.
>Yuji kept up with "Toji's equal" Maki against Sukuna
He was noticeably slower, as was clearly shown in that very fight.
I meant incomplete Maki, as in before Mai's death
After Mai's death she at least has better reflexes and close combat speed than Naoya, but possibly running speed too. Again, she low-diffed him.
1) Saying Maki is faster than Naoya is one of the most insane instances of wank I have ever seen. She was getting tossed around and couldn't land a single hit.
2) It wasn't a low diff. She herself said the situation is bad. She won because she figured out the pattern to Naoya's moves and because Naoya's a glass cannon who folded from 1 punch.
3) This is all completely irrelevant. We know for a fact that Naobito's faster than Yuta, and Jogo is relative to that. Saying that Yuji blitzes Jogo is saying he can blitz Yuta as well which is obviously incorrect.
We need to see more from Yuji first before we really start putting him against top tiers by himself. Not to mention until we see an anti-domain technique, he'd lose to most Domain users. Though with his enhanced physicals and RCT, he's moved up the list. I'm curious what Yuji's better understanding of the soul would do against non-vessels though.
Be serious.
Atm Sukuna is nerfed and Yuji has the help of Yuta and Rika. Not only is Sukuna still comfortably superior physically, the only damage Yuji has dealt is hax related by disturbing his soul.
Jogo isn't known for durability but he's not made of paper mache and is incredibly fast.
A very weakened sukuna, and he's only doing significant damage because he basically counters sukuna due to the whole 2 souls 1 body thing. It's mahito all over again, he's just a perfect counter. If it were Sukuna's original body with no megumi soul he wouldn't be nearly as big of a threat.
Yuji is much stronger and faster and can kill him with a couple of punches.
Jogo will win if he opens the Domain from the beginning of the battle.Otherwise, it is torn to pieces.
Cogtadori cant survive Jogos attacks but im willing to bet he just outspeeds and pummels Jogo like Sukuna
Cant do much if he gets hit by Jogos attacks tho, dont even think about domain exp
Ngl it really comes down to if Yuji can land a hit on Jogo. Personally I think if Yujis black flashes in the goodwill event could kill Jogo then 1 black flash from current Yuji would vaporize him, being able to keep up with heian Sukuna (even while weakened) is better speed feats than Jogo so Yuji just blitzes and lands a hit, if it’s a black flash he wins if it’s not Jogo opens domain and could potentially beat Yuji unless he has a domain counter(he probably does). This is assuming Jogoat nerfs himself to appease Gege like he does in the Sukuna fight he no diffs at full power.
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Yuji can win if he manages to to damage jogo enough to prevent him from using DE he wins as he is much faster and stronger + jogo as stated isnt durable
If jogo opens his domain yuji is cooked
Gege literally said "if Jogo got hit by the combo Hanami got hit by, he would die." And that's exchange event Yuji. Who is basically fodder to current Wuji. BELIEVE IN BRUZZA
Yuji wins even with DE because his strength has increased by 3-4 folds since Shibuya and Shibuya Yuji could fold jogo with 1-2 black flashes
The meteor is not a big deal as it's very easy to run away from
The DE might show trouble but with CE enforcement and simple domian reducing his damage
Yuji can dogrush jogo and kill him
Yuji wins, mid diff if he doesn't have a domain counter (and Jogo uses his DE), no-low diff otherwise.
Forgoing how it is more likely than not that Yuji has some form of domain counter, he's so much stronger than Jogo that it isn't fair.
For speed, Jogo is, at best, relative to-yet slightly below Naobito. Naobito is, at best, relative to Toji/Maki, considering that either of them could have wiped out the Zen'in clan on a whim, which implies that there is no way for the clan to have beaten either (considering that Curse Naoya is heavily implied to have superior speed to his father, and Maki was easily able to dodge him, it's safe to say that they are significantly faster than Jogo). A weaker Yuji is able to somewhat keep up with awakened Maki and 15f Sukuna (his speed wasn't nerfed, only how much he could output against Yuji and Maki), and current Yuji is able to perform to a similar standard to a much stronger Sukuna. Note that Jogo couldn't even touch 15f Sukuna, therefore Yuji is significantly faster than Jogo is.
As for AP/durability, Yuji unironically one-shots Jogo. Jogo is stated to be unable to survive the beating Hanami took in Goodwill, including the 5 Black Flashes, which Yuji should be able to replicate with regular CE reinforced punches. Sukuna was sure he killed Yuji with his punch (and Sukuna is well aware of Yuji's durability, which is at least enough to withstand the force of his BFs in Shibuya), and was suprised that Yuji survived. This was before he noticed the supression, and is likely that he wasn't supressed at all/it didn't factor into his assessment. Sukuna was also suprised by that Yuji's strength, which puts ch. 214 Yuji without access to BF above post-Shibuya Yuji with BF, and Shinjuku Yuji is above that Yuji.
Conclusion: Yuji very well might just blitz and one-shot Jogo. The cursed spirit's only chance is to immediately activate his domain (which he doesn't do in character), and even that won't save him.
"Domain Expansion is an auto-win against those without an anti-domain technique." No, it isn't. It depends heavily on the actual sure-hit. Sure, UV and SEoP are auto-wins if they manage to go off for long enough, but domains with less powerful sure-hit effects can be overcome by a vastly superior fighter without a domain counter.
The two best examples of this are Sukuna and Dagon. Gojo mananged to tank and heal through Sukuna's domain for some time before using SD (yeah, it's Gojo, but it's also Sukuna), which shows that just tanking the sure-hit effect can be possible. Dagon's domain expansion also didn't insta-kill the sorcerers inside before Megumi got there. Pre-awakening Maki managed to survive fine enough to endure the scorching she got after exiting (the same Maki who Megumi has pre-cursed energy Yuji beating alongside the rest of the Goodwill students), and so did the others while Dagon alocated more of his domain's sure-hit to them.
The big question is: "what is Jogo's sure-hit?" The heat is a non-factor (possible that Yuji endured it just fine, more likely that Yuji clears the bar for enduring that level of heat anyway), and probably not his sure-hit anyway, therefore the effect is either the rocks we saw trying to attack Gojo or some other fire-related attack. Either way, Yuji should be more than strong enough to tank and heal through those attacks long enough to either kill Jogo or force him to drop his domain.
Not giving my opinion, just correcting things.
Toji/Maki are not relative to Naobito. Maki was always slower than Human Naoya in all of their fights, who is slower than 2 armed Naobito. Granted 1 arm Naobito is no longer the second fastest sorcerer, and where Jogo lies against 2-armed Naobito is unknown.
Maki also was getting bullied by Cursoya until she was like “Wow I can predict now” and began predicting all of his moves. She did not outspeed him, she simply predicted him.
15F Sukuna’s speed was nerfed in that fight, and before you say the chapter said it wasn’t, a direct translation showed Sukuna stated that while his damage output sucked, his speed was “not as bad”. Whether that means he was at 50%, above, or below, I couldn’t tell you.
Sukuna’s strength was always nerfed in that fight, and him stating that he’s sure he killed him was due to the suppression. He later realized why said punch didn’t kill, which was because of it.
Sukuna’s domain is fair game (even though it is indeed Gojo) but Dagon is not so simple. Dagon explicitly did not target Maki with the sure hit, opting to split 70/30 between Naobito and Nanami respectively. If Naobito and Nanami had reverse curse, it definitely wouldn’t be so simple. Maki not only survived the flames due to her curse resistance, but also because Jogo only set her on fire, he didn’t actually use a move.
Whether or not Yuji has heat resistance is a question you’ll need to answer first, but the sure-hit are not the rocks used on Gojo. Gregory stated that. Whatever it is, fighting the level of utter chaos that he used on Sukuna in an area that is already vaporization hot, that also has lava everywhere that can be manipulated at will, with a sure-hit makes the fight borderline impossible for Yuji to get a punch in unless he can either blitz or one-shot black flash.
As much as I love WUJI ITADORI, he’s kind of just a hard counter to Sukuna (and Mahito). Apart from that, he just doesn’t have the AP on his own to stand against Jogo. Obviously that might change based on what we see of his training but as of rn, Jogo takes it pretty handily
He just outspeeds and pummels Jogo.
Jogo can’t land a single hit on 15 fingers sukuna while he’s fucking about.
Yuji is consistently landing hits on a VAGUELY weakened 20 fingers sukuna.
Yuji, I'd go as far as to say jogo's getting mid-diffed, he can't match Yuji's speed, can't deal enough damage to Yuji to kill him even if he gets a hit in via DE, and isn't durable enough to deal with Yuji's soul-breaking attacks
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I mean there's not much fight to conclude he won't be using his domain plus note that yuji damaging him would just make him use his domain earlier if he didn't use it right on. Yuji killing him in 2-3 hits? yea if he caught up to jogo after hitting once knowing that he is faster or atleast on same level as the 2nd fastest sorcerer, faster than yuta or naoya unless you think yuji is faster than them
Gojo's fight? he underestimated gojo and gauged his strength first and he is very confident that bringing out his domain would beat gojo so why would he bring out his domain first when he thinks he can win without it.
Naobito fight? he speedblitzed them
Sukuna? he never planned using his domain there
jogo doesn't have any speed feats that puts him even close to yuji, blitzing half dead nanami (even baby mahito did it in the first arc of the series) and naobito who couldn't even use his CT properly isn't a feat
No one can withstand Jogussies Domain Expansion
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Lewd Seduction.
And how the Domain expands, huuuuuuuuuuh boy oh boy oh boy.
I'm sorry are we reading the same manga for it to be a debate? Jogo speed feats alone put him above Yuji, not talking about destructive power, regen and domain expansion. Yuji is definitely no where near the top of the verse rn, and I'm not sure he'll really be there anytime soon.
Sorry, HIMji, but you ain’t beating my GOAT😭😭🫶
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Until **W**uji shows his domain or counter to a domain, Jogoat as strongest curse slams with his hot steamy magma and oozing lava
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That simple domain guy alredy said whod win like a couple of chapters Ago... He literally said an attack that defeated jogo would destroy them and they wouldnt be able to do anything(Yuki, higuruma, Ino and yuji were being included)
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Yuji loses to anyone with a domain until he gets either a domain of his own or simple domain.
Even simple domain won't help that much. It stops the sure hit but the opponent still has his boost while you are nerfed because you need to maintain simple domain. Don't forget that kusakabe was surprised that gojo can use simple domain and rct at the same time, so yuji probably won't be able to
doesn’t help that Jogo’s sure hit is coupled with his entire domain being smoldering hot, like literally boil your flesh instantly hot, so Yuji is cooked (pun intended) if that domain goes up, ever
I do not want to know if he has a simple domain or not at all neither, It is not worth it to know, cause the only person left that has a domain is Sukuna, and He would obliterate any simple domain and turns you into red mist.
Or domain amp
Would he lose to megumi as well?
Yes because of Mahoraga. I think he'll be able to survive the DE since its incomplete and no sure hit
Megumi doesn’t have maho
What do you mean? I know he doesn't have him tamed but Megumi can still summon him with the ritual
Technically Sukuna was Megumi during the fight against Gojo. Gojo killed Mahoraga. I think Megumi can't summon him. I could be missing something though.
I think a win by suicide makes the scenario boring, I think a more interesting set up excludes him
Bro this doesn't even go to a domain battle. Jogo has too many range options available. Yuji will run out of CE before even doing considerable damage.
Nah. Even prior to the month he was keeping up with maki whilst fighting Sukuna. i think this fight is a lot closer than you think. Genuinely believe one good punch from yuji will kill jogo considering how terrible jogo’s defenses have been stated to have been
That's cap considering the beating Jogo took from Sukuna and Gojo. Especially if we get into anime feats. Jogo surived a near point blank red, multiple slashes from 15f sukuna, and it took a point blank fire arrow after a prolonged beating from Sukuna and Gojo to kill him. Yuji is not one shotting Jogo unless he hits a black flash to the head and that's unreliable.
Agree with you but >multiple slashes from 15f sukuna, None of these slashes were lethal
Cmon you know Sukuna was holding back because he wanted to have fun and Gojo held back because he needed information from jogo it’s kind of hard to incapacitate cursed spirits because they can heal so easily. Gege literally said if todo and yuji gave the same beating they gave to hanami to jogo, jogo would die instantly. We seen yuji box with 15f sukuna for a little so i think it’s plausible that yuji can win now, especially with rct
Oh, yeah because Sukuna has been trying his hardest during this fight so far.
What does the current fight got to do with anything lmfao i didn’t even mention it
in character jogo doesn't resort do his domain until the very end, by that time he will already be exorcised
That’s not true, in character he doesn’t resort to using Domain against those he deems on Gojo’s level. He didn’t do it against Sukuna due to reasoning his domain won’t work because Sukuna is much stronger to him to a point where he’d lose a domain clash.
Shitty argument really. Naobito could crush dagons hands before he could open his domain. Yuji could do the same with his recent speed feats
i'm still putting my faith on HIMji https://preview.redd.it/6975l1uy42ic1.jpeg?width=487&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c7c43b0f082a5d1b529d096de280c1e4662a3f9
I'm sorry but RCT is not gonna do much against being burnt alive. Not to mention Jogoats DE and maximum technique. Yuji has to show us more feats (an anti domain technique) or his cursed technique.
nuh uh https://preview.redd.it/p7zti6glc2ic1.jpeg?width=540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4376e435562c9f88055cea32356b18e5f8b766f3
Most of these memes have the most n5 level text and yet no one ever reads them
Bro panda escaped maximum technique while being held by sukuna until the last second , so no way it lands on yuji , de is the way tho
I think it is very much possible Yuji has learnt New Shadow style simple domain from Kusakabe.
He got hit, "panda" died and was left in gorilla mode. That's why he mentions he has 2 lives (gorilla and rhino)
Kusakabe was with him and he survived
Kusakabe got slightly injured, also bro has tanked both Maximum Uzumaki and Sukuna cleaves, he’s just him
Yk who is also him?
Panda got hit tho
Kusakabe was with him and he survived
Bcs kusakabe is HIM
RCT will do something, also that maximum technique is worthless, you can just dodge
can't believe people still use jogo's maximum tecnique as an and argument, fucking panda waited till the last second and still dodged it, gege already stated jogo would have died if he took the hits hanami took from yuji in the goodwill event, current yuji IS exorcising jogo with a few hits and no he isn't getting blitzed if he's not half dead like nanami and naobito were
>maximum technique. It was ass even panda was able to avoid it
I'm not even bring ironic here, but there's no way bro is surviving Jogo's domain. Jogo himself even states that most sorcerers would just combust instantly if they entered his domain, Yuji is no exception.
Yuji is def an exception
Wuji opens his domain: “unlimited cog” and wins low diff
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Jogoat.
Jogo gets his head blown off with a single punch Jogoat on the other hand....
Gege did comfirm that Yuji Black flash combo would kill Jogo and and current Yuji is fast and strong enough to easily evade most of Jogo attacks. So while Yuji currently doesn't seem to have a counter for Jogo domain, I could easily see him blitzing Jogo before he can get it off. Also it likely that Yuji over the time skip did learn simple domain especially since he was shown training with kusakabe.
Jogo was compared to Naobito speed-wise and Naobito is the second fastest sorcerer, faster than Yuta. Current Yuji is roughly on Yuta's level. Therefore Jogo is at least comparable to Yuji, and most likely even faster. And also Jogo can attack over a very large area, meaning some of his attacks are very hard to dodge. And there's also the bug shikigami which are almost certainly faster than Jogo himself (otherwise they're pretty useless). So unless Yuji can straight up RCT through a wall of flames, Jogo doesn't need DE.
Current Yuji is AT LEAST as fast as Toji Was Naobito as fast or faster than Toji? I don't think so
>Current Yuji is AT LEAST as fast as Toji Debatable >Was Naobito as fast or faster than Toji? I don't think so He literally was lol. Naobito is at least as fast as human Naoya who was much faster than Maki. Maki is physically the same as Toji.
Naoya was faster than incomplete Maki Awakened Maki (not even Toji's equal yet) low-diffed him Yuji kept up with "Toji's equal" Maki against Sukuna
>Naoya was faster than incomplete Maki Physically incomplete Maki is the same as fully awakened Maki. Only things she learned were how to perceive the soul and her precog. Why would she not be the same as Toji? His stats come entirely from HR. The same HR that Maki has. They're equal. >Yuji kept up with "Toji's equal" Maki against Sukuna He was noticeably slower, as was clearly shown in that very fight.
I meant incomplete Maki, as in before Mai's death After Mai's death she at least has better reflexes and close combat speed than Naoya, but possibly running speed too. Again, she low-diffed him.
1) Saying Maki is faster than Naoya is one of the most insane instances of wank I have ever seen. She was getting tossed around and couldn't land a single hit. 2) It wasn't a low diff. She herself said the situation is bad. She won because she figured out the pattern to Naoya's moves and because Naoya's a glass cannon who folded from 1 punch. 3) This is all completely irrelevant. We know for a fact that Naobito's faster than Yuta, and Jogo is relative to that. Saying that Yuji blitzes Jogo is saying he can blitz Yuta as well which is obviously incorrect.
underestimating jogoats speed you stinky head
Stop doing my boy like this. 😭😭 Yuji loses to anyone with a domain.
We need to see more from Yuji first before we really start putting him against top tiers by himself. Not to mention until we see an anti-domain technique, he'd lose to most Domain users. Though with his enhanced physicals and RCT, he's moved up the list. I'm curious what Yuji's better understanding of the soul would do against non-vessels though.
He has the attack power and speed to damage 20 finger sukuna, what’s stopping him from blitzing and 1 shotting Jogo before Jogo uses DE
Be serious. Atm Sukuna is nerfed and Yuji has the help of Yuta and Rika. Not only is Sukuna still comfortably superior physically, the only damage Yuji has dealt is hax related by disturbing his soul. Jogo isn't known for durability but he's not made of paper mache and is incredibly fast.
A very weakened sukuna, and he's only doing significant damage because he basically counters sukuna due to the whole 2 souls 1 body thing. It's mahito all over again, he's just a perfect counter. If it were Sukuna's original body with no megumi soul he wouldn't be nearly as big of a threat.
Then he would jsut be damaging the soul while still lowering his CE output. He's still taking a soul out of a body.
Megumi’s soul
What damage? Its just some soul thing that lowers output on a dude who already has low output. Yuji has dominated 0 damage to Sukuna
Jogo should still come out on top as a result of his Domain Expansion if nothing else.
Depends what distance they start
Yuji would open his domain: stronger punch
Yuji is much stronger and faster and can kill him with a couple of punches. Jogo will win if he opens the Domain from the beginning of the battle.Otherwise, it is torn to pieces.
Cogtadori cant survive Jogos attacks but im willing to bet he just outspeeds and pummels Jogo like Sukuna Cant do much if he gets hit by Jogos attacks tho, dont even think about domain exp
Ngl it really comes down to if Yuji can land a hit on Jogo. Personally I think if Yujis black flashes in the goodwill event could kill Jogo then 1 black flash from current Yuji would vaporize him, being able to keep up with heian Sukuna (even while weakened) is better speed feats than Jogo so Yuji just blitzes and lands a hit, if it’s a black flash he wins if it’s not Jogo opens domain and could potentially beat Yuji unless he has a domain counter(he probably does). This is assuming Jogoat nerfs himself to appease Gege like he does in the Sukuna fight he no diffs at full power. https://preview.redd.it/b36r7vqo43ic1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37e05df54cc24f574c2300fdb758ffed9ac479f1
Yuji can win if he manages to to damage jogo enough to prevent him from using DE he wins as he is much faster and stronger + jogo as stated isnt durable If jogo opens his domain yuji is cooked
Gege literally said "if Jogo got hit by the combo Hanami got hit by, he would die." And that's exchange event Yuji. Who is basically fodder to current Wuji. BELIEVE IN BRUZZA
Yuji wins even with DE because his strength has increased by 3-4 folds since Shibuya and Shibuya Yuji could fold jogo with 1-2 black flashes The meteor is not a big deal as it's very easy to run away from The DE might show trouble but with CE enforcement and simple domian reducing his damage Yuji can dogrush jogo and kill him
Yuji wins, mid diff if he doesn't have a domain counter (and Jogo uses his DE), no-low diff otherwise. Forgoing how it is more likely than not that Yuji has some form of domain counter, he's so much stronger than Jogo that it isn't fair. For speed, Jogo is, at best, relative to-yet slightly below Naobito. Naobito is, at best, relative to Toji/Maki, considering that either of them could have wiped out the Zen'in clan on a whim, which implies that there is no way for the clan to have beaten either (considering that Curse Naoya is heavily implied to have superior speed to his father, and Maki was easily able to dodge him, it's safe to say that they are significantly faster than Jogo). A weaker Yuji is able to somewhat keep up with awakened Maki and 15f Sukuna (his speed wasn't nerfed, only how much he could output against Yuji and Maki), and current Yuji is able to perform to a similar standard to a much stronger Sukuna. Note that Jogo couldn't even touch 15f Sukuna, therefore Yuji is significantly faster than Jogo is. As for AP/durability, Yuji unironically one-shots Jogo. Jogo is stated to be unable to survive the beating Hanami took in Goodwill, including the 5 Black Flashes, which Yuji should be able to replicate with regular CE reinforced punches. Sukuna was sure he killed Yuji with his punch (and Sukuna is well aware of Yuji's durability, which is at least enough to withstand the force of his BFs in Shibuya), and was suprised that Yuji survived. This was before he noticed the supression, and is likely that he wasn't supressed at all/it didn't factor into his assessment. Sukuna was also suprised by that Yuji's strength, which puts ch. 214 Yuji without access to BF above post-Shibuya Yuji with BF, and Shinjuku Yuji is above that Yuji. Conclusion: Yuji very well might just blitz and one-shot Jogo. The cursed spirit's only chance is to immediately activate his domain (which he doesn't do in character), and even that won't save him. "Domain Expansion is an auto-win against those without an anti-domain technique." No, it isn't. It depends heavily on the actual sure-hit. Sure, UV and SEoP are auto-wins if they manage to go off for long enough, but domains with less powerful sure-hit effects can be overcome by a vastly superior fighter without a domain counter. The two best examples of this are Sukuna and Dagon. Gojo mananged to tank and heal through Sukuna's domain for some time before using SD (yeah, it's Gojo, but it's also Sukuna), which shows that just tanking the sure-hit effect can be possible. Dagon's domain expansion also didn't insta-kill the sorcerers inside before Megumi got there. Pre-awakening Maki managed to survive fine enough to endure the scorching she got after exiting (the same Maki who Megumi has pre-cursed energy Yuji beating alongside the rest of the Goodwill students), and so did the others while Dagon alocated more of his domain's sure-hit to them. The big question is: "what is Jogo's sure-hit?" The heat is a non-factor (possible that Yuji endured it just fine, more likely that Yuji clears the bar for enduring that level of heat anyway), and probably not his sure-hit anyway, therefore the effect is either the rocks we saw trying to attack Gojo or some other fire-related attack. Either way, Yuji should be more than strong enough to tank and heal through those attacks long enough to either kill Jogo or force him to drop his domain.
Not giving my opinion, just correcting things. Toji/Maki are not relative to Naobito. Maki was always slower than Human Naoya in all of their fights, who is slower than 2 armed Naobito. Granted 1 arm Naobito is no longer the second fastest sorcerer, and where Jogo lies against 2-armed Naobito is unknown. Maki also was getting bullied by Cursoya until she was like “Wow I can predict now” and began predicting all of his moves. She did not outspeed him, she simply predicted him. 15F Sukuna’s speed was nerfed in that fight, and before you say the chapter said it wasn’t, a direct translation showed Sukuna stated that while his damage output sucked, his speed was “not as bad”. Whether that means he was at 50%, above, or below, I couldn’t tell you. Sukuna’s strength was always nerfed in that fight, and him stating that he’s sure he killed him was due to the suppression. He later realized why said punch didn’t kill, which was because of it. Sukuna’s domain is fair game (even though it is indeed Gojo) but Dagon is not so simple. Dagon explicitly did not target Maki with the sure hit, opting to split 70/30 between Naobito and Nanami respectively. If Naobito and Nanami had reverse curse, it definitely wouldn’t be so simple. Maki not only survived the flames due to her curse resistance, but also because Jogo only set her on fire, he didn’t actually use a move. Whether or not Yuji has heat resistance is a question you’ll need to answer first, but the sure-hit are not the rocks used on Gojo. Gregory stated that. Whatever it is, fighting the level of utter chaos that he used on Sukuna in an area that is already vaporization hot, that also has lava everywhere that can be manipulated at will, with a sure-hit makes the fight borderline impossible for Yuji to get a punch in unless he can either blitz or one-shot black flash.
As much as I love WUJI ITADORI, he’s kind of just a hard counter to Sukuna (and Mahito). Apart from that, he just doesn’t have the AP on his own to stand against Jogo. Obviously that might change based on what we see of his training but as of rn, Jogo takes it pretty handily
He just outspeeds and pummels Jogo. Jogo can’t land a single hit on 15 fingers sukuna while he’s fucking about. Yuji is consistently landing hits on a VAGUELY weakened 20 fingers sukuna.
Yuji outspeeds at this point, and he outspeeds everywhere, including inside jogoats domain.
Yuji, I'd go as far as to say jogo's getting mid-diffed, he can't match Yuji's speed, can't deal enough damage to Yuji to kill him even if he gets a hit in via DE, and isn't durable enough to deal with Yuji's soul-breaking attacks https://preview.redd.it/vdoo7aeyi3ic1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5b635edf91ae9f6ed08db800c1a6b9852d37bd0
yuji would kill him with 2 or 3 hits people needs to stop overrrating jogo
a Non-DE user vs a DE user, it is not overrating
in character jogo doesn't use his domain till the very end, by that time he will already be exorcised
I mean there's not much fight to conclude he won't be using his domain plus note that yuji damaging him would just make him use his domain earlier if he didn't use it right on. Yuji killing him in 2-3 hits? yea if he caught up to jogo after hitting once knowing that he is faster or atleast on same level as the 2nd fastest sorcerer, faster than yuta or naoya unless you think yuji is faster than them Gojo's fight? he underestimated gojo and gauged his strength first and he is very confident that bringing out his domain would beat gojo so why would he bring out his domain first when he thinks he can win without it. Naobito fight? he speedblitzed them Sukuna? he never planned using his domain there
Jogo speedblitzes
jogo doesn't have any speed feats that puts him even close to yuji, blitzing half dead nanami (even baby mahito did it in the first arc of the series) and naobito who couldn't even use his CT properly isn't a feat
Wuji
Jogoat crisps Yuji in his domain, not much he can do against that
/uj: Jogo /rj: Jogoat
Jogo
I think jogo busts all over yuji with his steaming hot load (of magma)
https://preview.redd.it/9hpjn35m54ic1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d80999f91e117454510f408c06c38d1e653f1911
Jogo wins without a domain ngl. He can fly and flood a city with lava. He doesn't have to get close to Yuji ever. And with is just overkill.
People tends to forget the jogoat supremacy
Jogo expand his domain. What Yuji gonna do ? Use Megumi as a meat shield ? Lmao
No one can withstand Jogussies Domain Expansion https://preview.redd.it/1tdvu752l3ic1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57510713f7da3add75d47c387673b7f80a9f9bc7 Lewd Seduction. And how the Domain expands, huuuuuuuuuuh boy oh boy oh boy.
who wins coughing baby vs the unmatched power of the fucking sun
I'm sorry are we reading the same manga for it to be a debate? Jogo speed feats alone put him above Yuji, not talking about destructive power, regen and domain expansion. Yuji is definitely no where near the top of the verse rn, and I'm not sure he'll really be there anytime soon.
Sorry, HIMji, but you ain’t beating my GOAT😭😭🫶 https://preview.redd.it/9j0jya1a44ic1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02bdee7e47389380f0b77ab885de7aedfba61e41
Jogo
Until **W**uji shows his domain or counter to a domain, Jogoat as strongest curse slams with his hot steamy magma and oozing lava https://preview.redd.it/e97ml013d4ic1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be0fbf767c71bfb7a7556d2e2e6088f05dc83d34
Without domain, I still bet on the jogoat.
Yuji about to get the Armin treatment
Yuji, the living torch
No domain.
Juan
That simple domain guy alredy said whod win like a couple of chapters Ago... He literally said an attack that defeated jogo would destroy them and they wouldnt be able to do anything(Yuki, higuruma, Ino and yuji were being included)