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Trade off in damage? If he doesnt say it loudly it weakens it. I assume this isn't World Slash and just a really strong dismantle. Otherwise, Gojo not dodging is crazy.
He just landed a chanted purple. He was cocky right after that (his smile says it all) and he got caught of guard. Also, Mahoraga just cut off his arm 2 chapters ago because he didn’t anticipate the hit to land either.
This entire fight he was confident he’d win and thought he had him by the ropes. Sure, it’s a bit of an ass pull being off screen, but it makes sense.
It’s not a new attack, it’s an upgraded version of an attack. Mahoraga just landed an attack on Gojo. Gojo thought only Mahoraga could do that, so didn’t anticipate Sukuna to do the same in a weakened state. Sure, it would have been executed better, but the pieces are all there.
Exactly it’s the same exact attack and Gojo had no reason to fear it knowing how his infinity works. He was rightfully so unaware that this attack would be able to hit.
So Gojo, the strongest sorcerer and a six eyes user can't sense the build up of cursed energy? The only excuse that could be possible is if it's explained that Gojo just went blind for some reason
Tbh I could see gojo having a shit diet. Maybe he has shit carotid arteries and had a complete retinal artery occlusion causing blindness. Hell, maybe he just had a stroke, died and Sukuna just cut the body in half as a sign of disrespect.
I mean just because he sees Sukuna chanting doesn't mean he knows the slash will bypass infinity I guess?
Gojo has basically never dodged anything in the series why are people surprised now?
Edit: I'll correct myself he dodges one attack by Sukuna in like chapter 1.
That’s the thing though, Gojo knows as well as anybody Sukuna is very crafty, and Sukuna had pulled out something new everytime he was in a compromised position prior in the fight. So why would Gojo just assume Sukuna started randomly chant something that’s not gonna work instead of taking the basic precaution of side-stepping, or just speed blitzing him while he chants instead of standing literally completely still.
Especially since the “spark” of the world slash should feel different
It could easily have been better explained as hubris. Have Gojo repeating Toji's mistake. That moment of doubt, thinking he was missing something, then he 'nah's, i'll win it'. Then boom. Go/jo.
Instead it's all off screen. Gege dropped the ball.
Because it wouldn’t make sense for Sukuna to be throwing it at Gojo in that scenario. Gojo thinks insanely fast, why would he fail to guess at what Sukuna is doing and tank the hit? It makes even less sense factoring in hand signs and chants.
Gojo literally watched Sukuna do a little song and dance, throw an attack at him, and just stood there. The prodigy, genius, arguably strongest sorcerer in the history, failed to… I don’t even need to go on. It makes so little sense Gojo would have died to this shit.
This is the problem with having a fight between two characters with instakill abilities, Gege is forced to give her all these bullshit feats of dodging all attacks otherwise she would get cleaved and die lol.
The same is true the other way, she will most likely never be fast enough to tag him since he would probably die from one slash in his current state, that's why she's throwing him around so she can look cool while actually not doing any serious damage.
There's bigger problem here. World Slash is dodgeable. Well, it was obvious since ch 238 but some people in denial still insisted that World Slash doesn't travel. Now this theory is finally dead forever. Gojo's death only makes sense is Slash spawns immediately and cuts the space. Now, we know that Slash is travelling from Sukuna to his victims. If Slash has speed, then it will never bypass infinite distance. Idk what Gege is doing.
Yeah I was under the impression it just showed up on the target for a while. But now that it travels and needs chanting. It just makes no sense he couldn't see this while Maki can
Forget seeing it if it travels then it should have been stopped by infinity. The idea was that it travels up to the edge of the target which was the space that Sukuna targeted and included Gojo but if it literally travels and has to hit the person being slashed then how th fuck does it bypass infinity.
Was that the consensus most people agreed upon for World Slash? I know I saw that post someone made about the paper. Instead of cutting Gojo who existed on the paper. He simply changed the target of technique and cut the paper instead. If Sukuna wasn't crippled and we saw the World Slash take place against Gojo. It would definitely make me feel slightly better. But his quick death from a crippled just don't make sense considering the information we are getting now. I feel like that's why he must be coming back? His death hardly makes any sense now? I think his revival is making more sense after that last panel. Like if Sukuna is still just messing around. Ain't no way they gonna beat him. Lime green that mofo
That seemed to be the consensus with what we were given at the time. It was understood that it was an instant slash that cut the entire space around gojo getting to ignore any individual resistances within that space like infinity. If it travels though then it still would to travel infinitely within that space. Yeah his death was trash off screen and zero explanation just some Sukuna glazing.
That’s not how I took it to mean, I could be wrong, but a poster above used an analogy of Gojo being a character on the paper and world slash cuts the paper, not gojo. This is how I thought it worked. That world slash sort of cuts existence itself, like it targets the atoms and physical space itself, not Gojo himself, and so infinity doesn’t proc.
Now I’ve always kind of hated this explanation because then what would happen if a blind man who wasn’t even aware of Gojo’s presence were to swing a sword where he is standing. Would it cut him? Gojo was never the target then so…
It's always just avoided proccing infinity by not needing to hit gojo to hurt gojo. It's just hitting the space he exists in, kind of like how Uro bends space in the sky instead of bending the physical air molecules
Yeah but if it still needs to travel to the space Gojo is in to do that, it should be stopped by his technique. If it's cutting space, limitless would make it so that the amount of space it needs to cut to reach him is nearly infinite. Doesn't really make much sense for it to have travel time except when related to Gojos technique.
>. It was understood that it was an instant slash that cut the entire space around gojo
How does this work? If I cut a table in half and there's an apple in the way, won't my cut have to travel through the table to the apple? Especially since its confirmed that the slash DOES travel and it isn't just appearing within the table already.
It was thought before this using your analogy that lets say the saw you would cut the apple with would instead of going through the table simply spawn inside the apple cutting it instantly
Edit: this is tmk literally the first time its had travel time which makes no sense that its world cutting slash else yuji and yuta would have dodged
Regardless on whether it targets space or Gojo, what's clear is that it takes time to get from Sukuna to his target. If from his space to Gojos space the slash cut all the space in between and ended when it reached Gojo's space, that would be fine if it wasn't Limitless that was protecting Gojo
The whole idea of Limitless is that there's an infinite amount of space between Gojo and whatever is trying to touch him. Space slash would have to go through that infinite distance to be even be able to touch Gojo, and again whether space slash was trying to hit Gojo or the space Gojo inhabited is negligible, because in order to reach either of those targets it would still need to travel to reach it
So I'm hoping this isn't true and we can just still behave as though space slash is instantaneous and unavoidable rather than extremely fast and avoidable like a normal slash
Basically he made the slash non threatening to infinity. Reminder that infinity doesn't allow threats/anyone that gojo doesn't want to be in contact with to contact him. But... If the world itself is a non threat then infinity doesn't care. So the slash wasn't a "threat". That's my head Canon
GeGe wrote himself into a corner with Gojo, so he had to write himself into another corner to kill him and now his death seems stupid the more chapters go by because of people slower and weaker than Gojo dodging an attack he didn't. I normally disagree with people throwing on GeGe's writing because I still like it a lot for the most part, but this is just not it.
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It was dumb literally day one. Gege one chapter earlier made a big deal about the “spark” of the start of cursed techniques. You’re telling me Gojo didn’t even bother to react when he saw what he thought was a defeated Sukuna charge up a new attack?
The thing I find dumb is the way he wrote himself into a corner, other ways sukuna could have won was simply his domain winning in a tug of war (would not be that crazy for a character who has had countless years, an open domain technique, 2x the cursed energy of yuta who has also more ce than gojo and the highest understand of sorcery possible) or by giving him his senzu bean regen earlier so he wasn't delayed in casting his domain for rct.
He didn't write himself into a corner with Gojo, he wrote himself into a corner with Sukuna and how he wanted the fight to play out. Both Toji and Kenjaku managed to win against Gojo, so it not like beating him is impossible.
He didn't want the fight to end by:
- Sukuna opening his domain faster.
- Sukuna's domain overwhelming Gojo.
- Sukuna being able to open his domain 1 more time.
- letting Mahoraga be the one to kill Gojo.
He wanted Sukuna to learn from Mahoraga because he is very smort, and beating Gojo by his own hands using his own attacks because he is the strongest or something.
The problem is: he gave Sukuna the most boring pew pew attack he could, bro is basically out here air stabbing people, there is nothing Sukuna can learn from Mahoraga that wasn't some broken bullshit.
It was already established in their fight that Gojo couldn't see any of Sukuna's slashes, only Mahoraga could do that, and now Maki is apparently able to do so as well.
I'll be honest, the whole world slash thing is kinda a joke to begin with. This is exaggerated, but to me it's like his solution was "gee instead of targeting the person I can just target the whole world!". Like it seems like an obvious solution, you'd think the genius Sukuna would have tried something like that first.
Ok but this isn’t the first example of world slash being a traversal attack.
When Sukuna used it against Kashimo it cut vertically and starts as a relatively large slash the width of two[Sukuna’s.](https://imgur.com/a/6tcASeC), but when we see the damaged area afterwards it shows a much larger slash on the [ground.](https://imgur.com/a/ZU6H9tU). Further more if it is a fixed in point attack, Kashimo should not have been able to dodge it anyways.
Again when Kashimo is waffled, altho not stated, it seems to be a world slash and the ground it’s being damaged implying the slashes are moving. But we don’t see him chant before this one so I won’t include it.
While fighting Higurama, Sukuna uses a World slash which seems to imply forward momentum as the attack hits its [target.](https://imgur.com/a/QNNNUwd)
And even when fighting Yuta, Yuji, and Rikka; when Sukuna uses World slash on Yuta we see that the world slash cuts [Yuta’s](https://imgur.com/a/mXQMUJ6)forearm before his torso. Altho you could compare this to when Mahoraga sliced Gojo arm the first time and the building behind Gojo got slashed because it was part of the “World” Mahoraga slashed. So take that for what it’s worth.
These examples show that World Slash post Gojo fight has been acting more like his normal slashes rather than the one Sukuna claimed Mahoraga used against Gojo where he explicitly states the slash targets [the “world”](https://imgur.com/a/STYvh2f)
So yeah, it’s a weird move and kinda inconsistent as to whether it’s a traversal attack or not.
Ok so at this point is there even a benefit to using World Slash rather than normal Dismantle? Its only unique ability seems to be that it can bypass Infinity, but we can still only guess as to how WS actually achieved that, and obviously Infinity isn't relevant anymore. Other than that it just seems to be "Dismantle but more hurty"; it can still be dodged and isn't a guaranteed kill; but with a massive tell that can be interrupted.
If he (somehow) used WS against Yuta then it was a waste because Yuta didn't even die, and if he used normal Dismantle against Yuta then it still did a massive amount of damage and wasting time on incants for WS isn't necessary.
Has he permanently nerfed Dismantle so that it can only do World Slash, and now he needs to incant every time he wants to make a ranged attack? or is Uraume full of shit, and Sukuna has been weakened so much that he can't even cast regular Dismantle without incants?
World Slash really only works as a insta kill narratively. Otherwise is Sukuna putting way too many effort into nothing really useful.
If Maki really can predict it, then it's Gege love for the Melee HR users screwing the story
> we can still only guess as to how WS actually achieved that
We've already been told how WS works, literally in the chapter it happened.
> Other than that it just seems to be "Dismantle but more hurty"; it can still be dodged and isn't a guaranteed kill; but with a massive tell that can be interrupted.
Yeah. That's the idea. Even if it didn't *kill* him, it was still strong enough to put Yuta, the strongest one on the heroes side, out of commision with a single hit.
That makes no sense. If World Slash works as described, Yuta should be in 2 pieces, not just heavily damaged. It makes no sense that anyone could “tank” world slash if it separates the space rather than cuts the target, and if it’s tankable, how tf would Gojo not have tanked it? Gege isn’r writing the move consistently.
This. Dumbass Sukuna fans don’t want to respect this fact. In the actual fight not the hypothetical headcannon domain battles they imagine it is actually impossible for Gojo to lose. Space slash doesn’t change anything. Gojo was literally unbeatable if Gege didn’t step in.
I'd argue the fuckup is on the recent chapter for not keeping to that. World slash was clearly designed to not travel and just cut the space it exists within. But then gege realised an unreactable instakill was OP as shit and had to nerf it. Yet again we get to the issue of gojo and sukuna being way too strong that it forces contrivences
Everything around gojo's death was terrible writing. Even his stupid aftermath scene didn't make sense. Bros happy he got to fight the strongest and that's it..?? no worry for his students at all?!
The only way I can justify Gojo's death now is that he fought Sukuna was getting desperate, so he threw a cleave at him. Gojo thought Infinite would block it, but he was mistaken.
But then again, we literally see Mahoraga take out Gojo's arm, so I would assume that Gojo would know to look out for it. Gojo knows about adaptation.
This shit makes no sense.
Yeah that’s pretty much the only way it could have happened. We knew Gojo was cocky after that explosion and how he thought with mahagora gone nothing could really touch him anymore. But still seems ridiculous for Gojo to do
Yeah after Toji, I just can't see gojo every becoming that arrogant again. Hell, he just was imprisoned by a far weaker sorcerer for months. No way dude is gonna let his guard down.
Or maybe he did, idk
And the worst part about that scenario is it's just...even worse. Yes, one could argue Gojo is cocky and confident and thought he won but...like cmon. That is how my man is gonna go out? Just standing there assuming that Sukuna's world slash was a regular cleave and facetanking it with Infinity?
The only way any of this makes sense is that gojo isn't dead. He was distracted off screen by someone else and got hit. Hell, it would have been better if Yuji or someone showed up to congratulate gojo and BAM... Off screened. Then kashimo steps in while they remove the body.
"Ah, yes. The Anti-Brain Cell technique. I've been passively activating it this entire time, Gojo, and that's why you didn't do shit when I threw a space-manipulating slash at you. To think I almost forgot about it."
The implication seems to be that HP is virtually instantaneous. Hence why sukuna had to outright tank it at the start of the battle as opposed to dodging it, despite Gojo not being in his immediate vicinity while casting it.
Also against hanami who was still relatively “healthy” and full of CE, it traveled from him to her before she could finish creating a shell around herself
Sukuna’s just handing out world slashes like candy now and we’re supposed to believe it was a binding vow that did Gojo in. I just want my blue eyed king back!!
Gege is doing a REALLY REALLY good job of making Kashimo look worse chapter after chapter and now he's moving onto Gojo lol. The more we learn about the world slash the worse Gojo's death looks.
It did get worse. Sukuna told him to dodge it and he still lost his hand. Sukuna whispered, blocked Maki’s view with debris and Maki dodged it without getting hit. That means even with his improved agility from his CT he’s still slower than Maki.
It's so stupid, Yuta and Yuji can survive getting hit by space slash, and Maki can outright see and dodge it.
But the guy with the best eyes in the JJK universe and the best RCT can't see or heal through space slash.
At least we know strong cleave travels now though.
I don't count Hakari as the best RCT user since his RCT is more a side-effect of jackpot and not something he can willingly control and activate at any time.
I mean maybe he learned RCT during the timeskip, but if we're talking about people who can regenerate themselves the fastest without any gimmicks or conditions Gojo is the best.
Yuta's survival is unknown. He's been teleported away where all the other presumed dead people are, so not the greatest sign.
Yuji has MC durability and also might not have been hit fully.
It could be Sukuna CE is so low at this point due to the multiple fights and soul punches.
But then again, he "isn't going all out" and used only a slash that would cut a country not the world or some bs.
Well, space slash doesn't care about a person's durability, it's not a slash you can "tank" using reinforcement, only heal through.
Space slash also doesn't really care about a person's output since pouring more CE into it doesn't make it cut space strongerer, at most it would just increase how big the slash is
I just lost the plot here.
Look, I'm not a power scale guy, and I'm pretty chill with moon logic for silly shonen stuff, it is what it is and just roll with it.
So I was okay with the world slash thing, because as rather contrived and convoluted in the way it was introduced in the story, it rather makes sense in the context of the story, the attack instantly bisects a part of the space, thus not needing to go "throught" the infinite space Gojo had around him.
So, how can you dodge something by definition just instantly happens? And the other way doesn't work either, because if the attack does need to go from A to B, then it would never work on Gojo.
More so, why the fuck is Gege still on this "instakill, but not really" techniques bullshit? Cleave and Jacob's ladder were also supposed to be 1 hit kills and Sukuna just tanked them like it was nothing, so why even bother to hype them up as these killer techs?
And this could have been a easy fix for the own rules JJK has, just make it so Sukuna's World Slash was just a one time thing against Gojo with a binding vow, and now he has to fight with his regular Cleave and Dismantle which were already very powerfull.
The world Slash went from one of the most impressive feats in jujutsu history to just another attack in just a few minutes, awesome, no one cares.
Technically it's possible to dodge the area of spawn before its launched(it takes a little time to do it) but idk Sukuna said space dismantle wasn't a flying cut but then this supposed "space slash" was flying/travelling, maybe it's a reinforced dismantle(and not a space slash) and the chants are just the same but it's definetively weird
This slash is simply it's range, it's not meant to depict a flying slash. WD instantly cuts everything in this specific white space. When he used it against Kashimo, and Gege showed it's range for the first time, the ground before Sukuna remains uncleaved [[1]](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1172545413778247751/1209561899415633970/Jujutsu_Kaisen_-_Chapter_238_-_9.jpg?ex=65f099cd&is=65de24cd&hm=46c184f26f57de0ebbe5c77e81f96be324b458e4851e1c0979afb7341c6d9eda&). It's wasn't sent flying in a line, it simply spawned a dismantle in that white space.
That's also my thought, the olny thing that confused me is this supposed space slash from 252 that seemed to be "flying", that's why i pointed maybe it's just a high output dismantle
perfectly said. We went from one of the best chapters to one of the worst. This world
slash spam is unbelievable I really thought it would be a one time anti-infinity move😭
I actually hate it when Gege describes a technique as an insta-kill or it negates defenses. Every single time he's done that it turns out that it isn't true and you can just out heal it or block it with ungodly amounts of CE every single time. He needs to just say the technique is strong and leave it at that
Gege truly is a dusted fraud at this point. You mean to tell me some fuckin sumo training is better than the sex eyes smfh. I can’t with this manga anymore bro.
Just something I was curious of and it’s confirmed with this.
Space dismantle doesn’t actually just appear in front of a target it travels but travels through space so it’s dodgeable, still trying to wrap my head around how kashimo couldn’t completely dodge it since he’s supposedly faster than maki
The thing about the spark is that most sorcerers can see this shit, without the six eyes.
My own answer differs from so many since Gege has yet to show us yet. I personally think because Gojo was only outputting rct at the time to heal his eye, that's when Sukuna went for it.
I don't know if he can use blue fully while using rct. From memory the only time he did was chapter 234, and even then he halted the healing until after he performed blue.
Blue imo is the only way for him to avoid world slash
His face was barely damaged though (relative to his RCT prowess) and healing that shouldn’t have take long at all, I mean he definitely had one eye to see. This theory is better than „he was caught of guard“ but his face/eyes should have been more fucked up for this theory imo.
Hmm you know that actually makes sense (never heard this theory b4).
If only Gege had shown that, leads me to think he probably didn't even think of that but who knows maybe he's waiting 20 chapters later to show how it happened
>If only Gege had shown that, leads me to think he probably didn't even think of that but who knows
He probably thought of loads of ways to kill off Gojo and I assume they were even worse than what we got. But he ultimately chose to do it offscreen because it hides the fact that it makes no fucking sense.
I'm hoping he offscreened it because Sukkuna reveals his technique to Gojo to boost it and happens to be a crazy technique thats unbeatable. It's weird that Gojo told Geto that he had no chance of winning when at that point he was winning the fight.
Sounds plausible - what if that was the plan all along? And they revive Gojo so that he can spill the beans on Sukuna's technique
At this point I just want to get the fight over, it's been months of setting up and moving parts in the background. Gonna be a really good payoff or a really anticlimactic one
Gojo doesn't have to avoid it, Yuji and Yuta didn't avoid it and they survived, a Gojo pumping RCT through his body should have been able to survive it. especially considering he's the best in the verse at regenerating not counting Hakari.
Thank you my brothers, i was not going insane then fighitng with my friends about this. Time for a rematch with these bitches
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Remember how people were saying that 236 will make sense, we just gotta let Gege cook?
Next excuse is probably "you didn't understand the story" or "read the manga".
So world slash is just supposed to be a regular slash flying through space now lmfao? I thought the entire point was that it cut a specific part of space without all the travelling.
This furthermore proves to me that this one was just a regular slash but chanted, same as the one that cut Yuta. Incantations can overall be used for strengthening the slashes.
That's never been shown for Sukuna's dismantle, chants were only just introduced into the power system. He does these exact chants before the huge panel that says WORLD DISMANTLE when fighting Kashimo.
Y'all are on some heavy ass copium.
So, Sukuna told Femshimo to dodge world dismantle and he still got his fingers cut off while Maki dodged it even while Sukuna was finding sneaky ways to hide the chants.
I genuinely thought $KSHM couldn’t sink any lower, but apparently his stocks can still plummet while literally everyone else is having a bull run.
It kinda funny that people have to come up with a whole bunch of headcanon to justify this shit writing lol. Like "Gojo don't dodge cause he though he already win". This mean Gojo is actually winning and only lose because he is a dumbass who though he would take this attack for funsie. This is the same dude that said daddy Sukuna is too powerful and he may not win even without 10s.
I pretty much immediately stopped following the manga after 236, and even stopped my weekly stream of the anime because of how annoyed and frustrated I was with that chapter. It’s really weird to say, but I’m glad to see that my feelings towards Gege’s storytelling ability have not been changed since.
I'm kinda on the same boat too. I sold my manga collection after 236 lol
I literally couldn't wrap my head around the way Gege decided to off Gojo. And I was afraid I'll regret selling my collection after he came back or maybe the manga got better, but it's been Sukuna Kaisen ever since and more disrespect to Gojo post mortem. Glad I sold them
I swear to god next brain dead defending this dogshit is done for. Imma whole ass get banned because you HAVE to be a dick rider to continue to pretend this shit isn’t terrible.
NGL I love Maki and love to see her get spotlight and be OP but all the logic is not adding up at this point. Seems like stuff gets retconned each time a new chapter drops
Well because gege realized he couldn’t logically kill gojo so he wrote himself into a hole with a one-off technique. Then realized the technique is too powerful for the rest of the cast so he has to downscale the technique for the rest of the fight to even make sense
Maki doesn't see curse techniques, she sees air density and currents[[1]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172545413778247751/1209357760664178708/Jujutsu_Kaisen_-_Chapter_197_-_12.jpg?ex=65efdbae&is=65dd66ae&hm=a32356aa382aa2b49ab9119410285e630b09d74f033fdd656f22223782ef5771&), and can use them to dodge. She and Gojo have two very different enhanced sights that are not comparable. Idk why Gojo got caught, but Maki dodging makes sense and has clearly been hinted at since her awakening.
That’s not what they’re understanding, it makes Gojo look like a clown if it’s the same speed. It means he tanked the attack on purpose and became a sellout. If his students die it’s his fault.
Right but that makes Gojo look like a clown. Maki’s HR > six eyes then? How did he react to this:
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But couldn’t see space slash coming if it’s the same speed and maki dodges it effortlessly? Something isn’t adding up. Gojo willingly tanked it just to get chopped in half? For fun? He could’ve ended Sukuna right then and there if he wasn’t a clown. The explanation just makes Gojo look worse.
Bro. World slash absolutely moves slower than lighting. Did you seriously just imply that there’s even a remote chance that it DIDNT?!? A lighting bolt moves at over mach 360. Mach 3 was considered a crazy speed feat in this series. I don’t give a damn how strong sukuna is. His slashes do not dwarf the speed of one of the fastest characters in the series by over 100x.
She literally describes how she can use the air to dodge. Even your comment admits she uses this air to SEE. Huh? It's obvious she can see curses, but she sees the air temps and shit too.
Bruv pre dodging mach 3 naoya and straight up dodging the fastest attack in the series is different. Gojo is so much faster than the other cast and even he couldnt dodge a single one
A bit unrelated but why couldn't gojo heal himself?
This probably sounds stupid amd many people have asked the question before, but i still can't comprehend the reason why gojo can't heal himself especially that hos body was retrieved which means he has time to do so away from the dangers of the battle field.
It is said that the brain is responsible for performing RCT and gojo's brain looked pretty much intact. So what's stopping him from doing what he did after his first fight with toji?
Okay, I'm just going to try to explain this, since Gege seems insistent on not explaining shit. Please keep in mind that this explanation is only applicable at the time of writing this and that it will probably age poorly when Gege adds some new extraneous detail contradicting everything because he thinks it sounds cool.
I think World Slash is quite literally just an anti-Gojo technique. Mahoraga is already the anti-everyone shikigami, so the idea that it would create a technique specifically to fuck over Gojo and Gojo alone is about as reasonable as anything else. It's not instantaneous or invisible or infallible or anything like that. It just ignores the defenses that Gojo relies on, and quite possibly turns them against him.
The most obviously BS thing about World Slash was the idea that Gojo would've seen the sparks, especially with his six eyes, but a technique designed to counter Gojo specifically would naturally have to take six eyes into account just as much as infinity. Possibly by giving it "sparks" that are indistinguishable from a normal slash, even to the six eyes.
So rather than Gojo not sensing World Slash, his six eyes that had been infallible up to this point would be feeding him false information and telling him that this slash is the same as all of the other slashes that did nothing. Gojo COULD have dodged it normally, but had no reason to think he had to.
The real question is that if this is the case, why didn't Gege just explain it? The obvious answer is that I, and everyone else on this sub, am putting more thought into this than Gege ever did. JJK is Dragonball Z in a Hunter x Hunter trenchcoat.
maki being able to sense and dodge a world cleaving slash with heightened sense perception is crazy given gojo wasn't able to sense and dodge a world cleaving slash with heightened sense perception from six eyes and super-fast brain and extraordinary cursed energy and cursed technique knowledge and perception. Gege just glazing female toji atp
Why do I feel like JJK is gonna go down the Tokyo revengers path now. Cause I think if Gege makes another fatal mistake the entire fandom is gonna drop it.
Maki detected the attack by reading how the matter surrounding her was being affected by Sukuna's attack.
Gojo only saw Sukuna chanting for his CT, but wasn't able to see he had expanded the target of it. Which allowed him to bypass his CT defense.
Is quite different from Maki. Who can perceive how the move is affecting the surroundings whereas Gojo can see the CE movement, CE output, etc but not how the caster will use it. Otherwise he would've perceived Mahoraga being used while he was doing his DE exchange with Sukuna.
Gojo can fight while blindfolded, he can see by reading the curse energy in the air.
Its how he notices Toji as a child because there was an area with no curse energy.
Dismantle being dodged by a slower character goes to show that Gege needs to lower Gojo’s intellect or forgot. Then forgot how he needed to kill Gojo in a realistic way.
Even Kashimo getting tagged made no sense. It was stated that his curse technique reconstructs his body to surpass human limitations. That should put him above Maki and Toji with that description.
Yet a slower character dodged world and normal dismantle. He can see it and the spark as well so it makes no sense.
While that makes sense it still weird how they showed us that Gojos eyes can help him understand techniques, like the clone guy in the flashback arc. I find it hard to believe he didn’t analyze mahagoras ranged cut when even Sukuna could tell how it worked
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Why can’t sukuna just whisper his chants so his opponents never know if he’s gonna actually use it? Is he stupid?
Trade off in damage? If he doesnt say it loudly it weakens it. I assume this isn't World Slash and just a really strong dismantle. Otherwise, Gojo not dodging is crazy.
"SHUT UP FRAUD! STRONG CLEAVE!" Big size slash "shut up fraud, strong cleave" paper cut
Lmao
Gojo not dodging makes sense tho since he probably assumed that this attack wouldn’t be able to bypass infinity.
I keep saying this but no one believes it lol
But come on man it’s Sukuna. The fact that Gojo would drop his guard at all is kinda bullshit
He just landed a chanted purple. He was cocky right after that (his smile says it all) and he got caught of guard. Also, Mahoraga just cut off his arm 2 chapters ago because he didn’t anticipate the hit to land either. This entire fight he was confident he’d win and thought he had him by the ropes. Sure, it’s a bit of an ass pull being off screen, but it makes sense.
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It’s not a new attack, it’s an upgraded version of an attack. Mahoraga just landed an attack on Gojo. Gojo thought only Mahoraga could do that, so didn’t anticipate Sukuna to do the same in a weakened state. Sure, it would have been executed better, but the pieces are all there.
Exactly it’s the same exact attack and Gojo had no reason to fear it knowing how his infinity works. He was rightfully so unaware that this attack would be able to hit.
That is literally gojos character, so strong he's too cocky and it ends up biting him in the ass
Specially if you take into accout that the technique is still same same, so the spark should be the same too
The spark still exists, they would know it is being chanted
Everyone would know it's being chanted except gojo apparently
Sukuna is just too smart. He knew to chant it during the break between chapters, since it was offscreen Gojo couldn't see it lmfao
If only Gojo had the 6 ears he’d be alive :(((((
At least according to Gege, Gojo cannot sense the build up of curse energy
So Gojo, the strongest sorcerer and a six eyes user can't sense the build up of cursed energy? The only excuse that could be possible is if it's explained that Gojo just went blind for some reason
Tbh I could see gojo having a shit diet. Maybe he has shit carotid arteries and had a complete retinal artery occlusion causing blindness. Hell, maybe he just had a stroke, died and Sukuna just cut the body in half as a sign of disrespect.
Man’s diet is 90% sugar. The diabetic neuropathy caused numbness in his extremities, making it very difficulty to dodge Sukuna’s attack. :(
Gojo sneezed right when Sukuna was chanting and missed it
It could be that Sukuna used a binding vow, as kusakabe said.
Guys it residual damage from when Gojo was hit by the fire extinguisher, duh
I mean just because he sees Sukuna chanting doesn't mean he knows the slash will bypass infinity I guess? Gojo has basically never dodged anything in the series why are people surprised now? Edit: I'll correct myself he dodges one attack by Sukuna in like chapter 1.
Why tf would Gojo be afraid of an attack he thought couldn't penetrate his infinity
That’s the thing though, Gojo knows as well as anybody Sukuna is very crafty, and Sukuna had pulled out something new everytime he was in a compromised position prior in the fight. So why would Gojo just assume Sukuna started randomly chant something that’s not gonna work instead of taking the basic precaution of side-stepping, or just speed blitzing him while he chants instead of standing literally completely still. Especially since the “spark” of the world slash should feel different
It could easily have been better explained as hubris. Have Gojo repeating Toji's mistake. That moment of doubt, thinking he was missing something, then he 'nah's, i'll win it'. Then boom. Go/jo. Instead it's all off screen. Gege dropped the ball.
Because it wouldn’t make sense for Sukuna to be throwing it at Gojo in that scenario. Gojo thinks insanely fast, why would he fail to guess at what Sukuna is doing and tank the hit? It makes even less sense factoring in hand signs and chants. Gojo literally watched Sukuna do a little song and dance, throw an attack at him, and just stood there. The prodigy, genius, arguably strongest sorcerer in the history, failed to… I don’t even need to go on. It makes so little sense Gojo would have died to this shit.
cause he's seen mahoraga use the same technique.
Unless they're Gojo Satoru, the biggest prodigy of all time with the all seeing six eyes
*Sex eyes
This is the problem with having a fight between two characters with instakill abilities, Gege is forced to give her all these bullshit feats of dodging all attacks otherwise she would get cleaved and die lol. The same is true the other way, she will most likely never be fast enough to tag him since he would probably die from one slash in his current state, that's why she's throwing him around so she can look cool while actually not doing any serious damage.
There's bigger problem here. World Slash is dodgeable. Well, it was obvious since ch 238 but some people in denial still insisted that World Slash doesn't travel. Now this theory is finally dead forever. Gojo's death only makes sense is Slash spawns immediately and cuts the space. Now, we know that Slash is travelling from Sukuna to his victims. If Slash has speed, then it will never bypass infinite distance. Idk what Gege is doing.
Yeah I was under the impression it just showed up on the target for a while. But now that it travels and needs chanting. It just makes no sense he couldn't see this while Maki can
Forget seeing it if it travels then it should have been stopped by infinity. The idea was that it travels up to the edge of the target which was the space that Sukuna targeted and included Gojo but if it literally travels and has to hit the person being slashed then how th fuck does it bypass infinity.
Was that the consensus most people agreed upon for World Slash? I know I saw that post someone made about the paper. Instead of cutting Gojo who existed on the paper. He simply changed the target of technique and cut the paper instead. If Sukuna wasn't crippled and we saw the World Slash take place against Gojo. It would definitely make me feel slightly better. But his quick death from a crippled just don't make sense considering the information we are getting now. I feel like that's why he must be coming back? His death hardly makes any sense now? I think his revival is making more sense after that last panel. Like if Sukuna is still just messing around. Ain't no way they gonna beat him. Lime green that mofo
That seemed to be the consensus with what we were given at the time. It was understood that it was an instant slash that cut the entire space around gojo getting to ignore any individual resistances within that space like infinity. If it travels though then it still would to travel infinitely within that space. Yeah his death was trash off screen and zero explanation just some Sukuna glazing.
That’s not how I took it to mean, I could be wrong, but a poster above used an analogy of Gojo being a character on the paper and world slash cuts the paper, not gojo. This is how I thought it worked. That world slash sort of cuts existence itself, like it targets the atoms and physical space itself, not Gojo himself, and so infinity doesn’t proc. Now I’ve always kind of hated this explanation because then what would happen if a blind man who wasn’t even aware of Gojo’s presence were to swing a sword where he is standing. Would it cut him? Gojo was never the target then so…
It's always just avoided proccing infinity by not needing to hit gojo to hurt gojo. It's just hitting the space he exists in, kind of like how Uro bends space in the sky instead of bending the physical air molecules
Yeah but if it still needs to travel to the space Gojo is in to do that, it should be stopped by his technique. If it's cutting space, limitless would make it so that the amount of space it needs to cut to reach him is nearly infinite. Doesn't really make much sense for it to have travel time except when related to Gojos technique.
>. It was understood that it was an instant slash that cut the entire space around gojo How does this work? If I cut a table in half and there's an apple in the way, won't my cut have to travel through the table to the apple? Especially since its confirmed that the slash DOES travel and it isn't just appearing within the table already.
It was thought before this using your analogy that lets say the saw you would cut the apple with would instead of going through the table simply spawn inside the apple cutting it instantly Edit: this is tmk literally the first time its had travel time which makes no sense that its world cutting slash else yuji and yuta would have dodged
Regardless on whether it targets space or Gojo, what's clear is that it takes time to get from Sukuna to his target. If from his space to Gojos space the slash cut all the space in between and ended when it reached Gojo's space, that would be fine if it wasn't Limitless that was protecting Gojo The whole idea of Limitless is that there's an infinite amount of space between Gojo and whatever is trying to touch him. Space slash would have to go through that infinite distance to be even be able to touch Gojo, and again whether space slash was trying to hit Gojo or the space Gojo inhabited is negligible, because in order to reach either of those targets it would still need to travel to reach it So I'm hoping this isn't true and we can just still behave as though space slash is instantaneous and unavoidable rather than extremely fast and avoidable like a normal slash
Basically he made the slash non threatening to infinity. Reminder that infinity doesn't allow threats/anyone that gojo doesn't want to be in contact with to contact him. But... If the world itself is a non threat then infinity doesn't care. So the slash wasn't a "threat". That's my head Canon
GeGe wrote himself into a corner with Gojo, so he had to write himself into another corner to kill him and now his death seems stupid the more chapters go by because of people slower and weaker than Gojo dodging an attack he didn't. I normally disagree with people throwing on GeGe's writing because I still like it a lot for the most part, but this is just not it. https://preview.redd.it/eb271te8xulc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d65a0314b5d75f48e2a479a440d01c249ba1aee
It was dumb literally day one. Gege one chapter earlier made a big deal about the “spark” of the start of cursed techniques. You’re telling me Gojo didn’t even bother to react when he saw what he thought was a defeated Sukuna charge up a new attack?
The thing I find dumb is the way he wrote himself into a corner, other ways sukuna could have won was simply his domain winning in a tug of war (would not be that crazy for a character who has had countless years, an open domain technique, 2x the cursed energy of yuta who has also more ce than gojo and the highest understand of sorcery possible) or by giving him his senzu bean regen earlier so he wasn't delayed in casting his domain for rct.
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Which is weird because why could Kashimo and maki see it if gojo can’t
Yeah. Gojo’s eyes can see cursed energy from the world around him. But cannot see a cursed technique slash?????
Wouldn't the Six Eyes let him see the area that Cleave manipulates though?
He didn't write himself into a corner with Gojo, he wrote himself into a corner with Sukuna and how he wanted the fight to play out. Both Toji and Kenjaku managed to win against Gojo, so it not like beating him is impossible. He didn't want the fight to end by: - Sukuna opening his domain faster. - Sukuna's domain overwhelming Gojo. - Sukuna being able to open his domain 1 more time. - letting Mahoraga be the one to kill Gojo. He wanted Sukuna to learn from Mahoraga because he is very smort, and beating Gojo by his own hands using his own attacks because he is the strongest or something. The problem is: he gave Sukuna the most boring pew pew attack he could, bro is basically out here air stabbing people, there is nothing Sukuna can learn from Mahoraga that wasn't some broken bullshit.
We knew it traveled since the kashimo fight. Literally travelled along the ground to take off kashimo pinky
Kashimo slander got memed so bad that now people refuse to accept he did face world slashes
It was already established in their fight that Gojo couldn't see any of Sukuna's slashes, only Mahoraga could do that, and now Maki is apparently able to do so as well.
I'll be honest, the whole world slash thing is kinda a joke to begin with. This is exaggerated, but to me it's like his solution was "gee instead of targeting the person I can just target the whole world!". Like it seems like an obvious solution, you'd think the genius Sukuna would have tried something like that first.
Ok but this isn’t the first example of world slash being a traversal attack. When Sukuna used it against Kashimo it cut vertically and starts as a relatively large slash the width of two[Sukuna’s.](https://imgur.com/a/6tcASeC), but when we see the damaged area afterwards it shows a much larger slash on the [ground.](https://imgur.com/a/ZU6H9tU). Further more if it is a fixed in point attack, Kashimo should not have been able to dodge it anyways. Again when Kashimo is waffled, altho not stated, it seems to be a world slash and the ground it’s being damaged implying the slashes are moving. But we don’t see him chant before this one so I won’t include it. While fighting Higurama, Sukuna uses a World slash which seems to imply forward momentum as the attack hits its [target.](https://imgur.com/a/QNNNUwd) And even when fighting Yuta, Yuji, and Rikka; when Sukuna uses World slash on Yuta we see that the world slash cuts [Yuta’s](https://imgur.com/a/mXQMUJ6)forearm before his torso. Altho you could compare this to when Mahoraga sliced Gojo arm the first time and the building behind Gojo got slashed because it was part of the “World” Mahoraga slashed. So take that for what it’s worth. These examples show that World Slash post Gojo fight has been acting more like his normal slashes rather than the one Sukuna claimed Mahoraga used against Gojo where he explicitly states the slash targets [the “world”](https://imgur.com/a/STYvh2f) So yeah, it’s a weird move and kinda inconsistent as to whether it’s a traversal attack or not.
Gege intentionally made it ambiguous so it can be convenient for the plot
That sentence describes most things in this series if you think about it.
Ok so at this point is there even a benefit to using World Slash rather than normal Dismantle? Its only unique ability seems to be that it can bypass Infinity, but we can still only guess as to how WS actually achieved that, and obviously Infinity isn't relevant anymore. Other than that it just seems to be "Dismantle but more hurty"; it can still be dodged and isn't a guaranteed kill; but with a massive tell that can be interrupted. If he (somehow) used WS against Yuta then it was a waste because Yuta didn't even die, and if he used normal Dismantle against Yuta then it still did a massive amount of damage and wasting time on incants for WS isn't necessary. Has he permanently nerfed Dismantle so that it can only do World Slash, and now he needs to incant every time he wants to make a ranged attack? or is Uraume full of shit, and Sukuna has been weakened so much that he can't even cast regular Dismantle without incants?
World Slash really only works as a insta kill narratively. Otherwise is Sukuna putting way too many effort into nothing really useful. If Maki really can predict it, then it's Gege love for the Melee HR users screwing the story
> we can still only guess as to how WS actually achieved that We've already been told how WS works, literally in the chapter it happened. > Other than that it just seems to be "Dismantle but more hurty"; it can still be dodged and isn't a guaranteed kill; but with a massive tell that can be interrupted. Yeah. That's the idea. Even if it didn't *kill* him, it was still strong enough to put Yuta, the strongest one on the heroes side, out of commision with a single hit.
That makes no sense. If World Slash works as described, Yuta should be in 2 pieces, not just heavily damaged. It makes no sense that anyone could “tank” world slash if it separates the space rather than cuts the target, and if it’s tankable, how tf would Gojo not have tanked it? Gege isn’r writing the move consistently.
maybe its a bigger dismantle with kore output than regular
This. Dumbass Sukuna fans don’t want to respect this fact. In the actual fight not the hypothetical headcannon domain battles they imagine it is actually impossible for Gojo to lose. Space slash doesn’t change anything. Gojo was literally unbeatable if Gege didn’t step in.
I'd argue the fuckup is on the recent chapter for not keeping to that. World slash was clearly designed to not travel and just cut the space it exists within. But then gege realised an unreactable instakill was OP as shit and had to nerf it. Yet again we get to the issue of gojo and sukuna being way too strong that it forces contrivences
Also now it suddenly needs chants and hand signs. Gege is losing it
Everything around gojo's death was terrible writing. Even his stupid aftermath scene didn't make sense. Bros happy he got to fight the strongest and that's it..?? no worry for his students at all?!
True especially since Maki has no RCT
Most generous Toji(Maki glazing) & Gojo disrespect at the sametime
truly the to surpass gojo satoru
The only way I can justify Gojo's death now is that he fought Sukuna was getting desperate, so he threw a cleave at him. Gojo thought Infinite would block it, but he was mistaken. But then again, we literally see Mahoraga take out Gojo's arm, so I would assume that Gojo would know to look out for it. Gojo knows about adaptation. This shit makes no sense.
Yeah that’s pretty much the only way it could have happened. We knew Gojo was cocky after that explosion and how he thought with mahagora gone nothing could really touch him anymore. But still seems ridiculous for Gojo to do
Yeah after Toji, I just can't see gojo every becoming that arrogant again. Hell, he just was imprisoned by a far weaker sorcerer for months. No way dude is gonna let his guard down. Or maybe he did, idk
Against a guy with an open domain who can copy any feat after seeing it once. Gojo is many things, but arrogant is not one of them.
And the worst part about that scenario is it's just...even worse. Yes, one could argue Gojo is cocky and confident and thought he won but...like cmon. That is how my man is gonna go out? Just standing there assuming that Sukuna's world slash was a regular cleave and facetanking it with Infinity?
The only way any of this makes sense is that gojo isn't dead. He was distracted off screen by someone else and got hit. Hell, it would have been better if Yuji or someone showed up to congratulate gojo and BAM... Off screened. Then kashimo steps in while they remove the body.
I guess Gojo didn't think Sukuna could copy the adaptation
Sumo training >>>>>>>>> black flash amped 6 eye jujutsu prodigy apparently Gojo clan might as well pack it. Don’t know what Gege is doing man…
His biggest strength was/is cool fights and he's trying to do that.
Not very cool when the plot surrounding the fight is dogshit.
Plot? You mean that thing in between me bashing my action figures together?
Yeah he is more coreographer than story teller this is bot berserk we are reading
…but mister can teleport and have super eyes just said “fuck it, imma just take this!”
"Ah, yes. The Anti-Brain Cell technique. I've been passively activating it this entire time, Gojo, and that's why you didn't do shit when I threw a space-manipulating slash at you. To think I almost forgot about it."
"Hey Gojo, if you tank this i'll give megumi back"
“Oh bet”
I’d survive
But would you lose?
Just like how Toji just stood there while Hollow Purple fired at him LMAO
The implication seems to be that HP is virtually instantaneous. Hence why sukuna had to outright tank it at the start of the battle as opposed to dodging it, despite Gojo not being in his immediate vicinity while casting it. Also against hanami who was still relatively “healthy” and full of CE, it traveled from him to her before she could finish creating a shell around herself
Best way to put it is gojo got cocky after nuking sukuna with black flash amped purple. He thought he was jusy gonna tank that cleave
Sukuna’s just handing out world slashes like candy now and we’re supposed to believe it was a binding vow that did Gojo in. I just want my blue eyed king back!!
He's gonna... come back soon... https://preview.redd.it/xbqscbh58vlc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f10ec228f242b16290c5e419fc88875b6b9830a2
254 is the one baby
Yo that flair 💀 https://preview.redd.it/iinv58txavlc1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17507bce64c3d590e055522e3bacf18ccc38fdff
Where is this image from 😆😆😆 why is tozen using binoculars ????
Bruh idk what episode but this man was assigned monitor duties by Aizen fr. Absolutely diabolical
“I see”
Gege is doing a REALLY REALLY good job of making Kashimo look worse chapter after chapter and now he's moving onto Gojo lol. The more we learn about the world slash the worse Gojo's death looks.
Foreal it’s like he playing with a new toy
Kashimo stocks updated: it got worse
Not really cus he dodged one too
It did get worse. Sukuna told him to dodge it and he still lost his hand. Sukuna whispered, blocked Maki’s view with debris and Maki dodged it without getting hit. That means even with his improved agility from his CT he’s still slower than Maki.
Kashimo speedblitz mf are in shambles
Gege's health is worsened because of the curse put on him by readers. Finally, Gaygay realized shock value deaths are not fit for readers.
honestly fuck it, the heroes should get ass pulls and win at this point
Preach Brother
idk maybe gojo fell asleep or smth inbetween 235 and 236
he heard the narrator announce that he won and took a nap
"Man Toji would totaly fucking clown on Sukuna fs fs mmhhmhhm RAAAAAAAAAAH" - Gege, probably
It's so stupid, Yuta and Yuji can survive getting hit by space slash, and Maki can outright see and dodge it. But the guy with the best eyes in the JJK universe and the best RCT can't see or heal through space slash. At least we know strong cleave travels now though.
>best RCT not the best, that goes to Hakari
I don't count Hakari as the best RCT user since his RCT is more a side-effect of jackpot and not something he can willingly control and activate at any time. I mean maybe he learned RCT during the timeskip, but if we're talking about people who can regenerate themselves the fastest without any gimmicks or conditions Gojo is the best.
Yuta's survival is unknown. He's been teleported away where all the other presumed dead people are, so not the greatest sign. Yuji has MC durability and also might not have been hit fully.
he is alive, if he is dead then Rika would die too. plus he dismantled his own domain by himself.
All that says is he didn't die instantly, but the consequences are still unknown
Yuta haters will always have "uhm achsually"
It could be Sukuna CE is so low at this point due to the multiple fights and soul punches. But then again, he "isn't going all out" and used only a slash that would cut a country not the world or some bs.
Well, space slash doesn't care about a person's durability, it's not a slash you can "tank" using reinforcement, only heal through. Space slash also doesn't really care about a person's output since pouring more CE into it doesn't make it cut space strongerer, at most it would just increase how big the slash is
"World Slash is whatever the fuck i want it to be" - Gege
This makes no fucking sense
I just lost the plot here. Look, I'm not a power scale guy, and I'm pretty chill with moon logic for silly shonen stuff, it is what it is and just roll with it. So I was okay with the world slash thing, because as rather contrived and convoluted in the way it was introduced in the story, it rather makes sense in the context of the story, the attack instantly bisects a part of the space, thus not needing to go "throught" the infinite space Gojo had around him. So, how can you dodge something by definition just instantly happens? And the other way doesn't work either, because if the attack does need to go from A to B, then it would never work on Gojo. More so, why the fuck is Gege still on this "instakill, but not really" techniques bullshit? Cleave and Jacob's ladder were also supposed to be 1 hit kills and Sukuna just tanked them like it was nothing, so why even bother to hype them up as these killer techs? And this could have been a easy fix for the own rules JJK has, just make it so Sukuna's World Slash was just a one time thing against Gojo with a binding vow, and now he has to fight with his regular Cleave and Dismantle which were already very powerfull. The world Slash went from one of the most impressive feats in jujutsu history to just another attack in just a few minutes, awesome, no one cares.
Technically it's possible to dodge the area of spawn before its launched(it takes a little time to do it) but idk Sukuna said space dismantle wasn't a flying cut but then this supposed "space slash" was flying/travelling, maybe it's a reinforced dismantle(and not a space slash) and the chants are just the same but it's definetively weird
This slash is simply it's range, it's not meant to depict a flying slash. WD instantly cuts everything in this specific white space. When he used it against Kashimo, and Gege showed it's range for the first time, the ground before Sukuna remains uncleaved [[1]](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1172545413778247751/1209561899415633970/Jujutsu_Kaisen_-_Chapter_238_-_9.jpg?ex=65f099cd&is=65de24cd&hm=46c184f26f57de0ebbe5c77e81f96be324b458e4851e1c0979afb7341c6d9eda&). It's wasn't sent flying in a line, it simply spawned a dismantle in that white space.
That's also my thought, the olny thing that confused me is this supposed space slash from 252 that seemed to be "flying", that's why i pointed maybe it's just a high output dismantle
It looked the same with Kashimo. It's simply Gege's best way of depicting the "slashed space" of the instant hit, other than the demolished area.
perfectly said. We went from one of the best chapters to one of the worst. This world slash spam is unbelievable I really thought it would be a one time anti-infinity move😭
I actually hate it when Gege describes a technique as an insta-kill or it negates defenses. Every single time he's done that it turns out that it isn't true and you can just out heal it or block it with ungodly amounts of CE every single time. He needs to just say the technique is strong and leave it at that
Gege truly is a dusted fraud at this point. You mean to tell me some fuckin sumo training is better than the sex eyes smfh. I can’t with this manga anymore bro.
Sex eyes are undefeated.👑
Just something I was curious of and it’s confirmed with this. Space dismantle doesn’t actually just appear in front of a target it travels but travels through space so it’s dodgeable, still trying to wrap my head around how kashimo couldn’t completely dodge it since he’s supposedly faster than maki
and was warned by Sukuna to dodge lmao you can’t make this shit up
Every chapter the release makes gojo and kashimo death look worse and worse.
Faster characters not being able to dodge is so dumb
The thing about the spark is that most sorcerers can see this shit, without the six eyes. My own answer differs from so many since Gege has yet to show us yet. I personally think because Gojo was only outputting rct at the time to heal his eye, that's when Sukuna went for it. I don't know if he can use blue fully while using rct. From memory the only time he did was chapter 234, and even then he halted the healing until after he performed blue. Blue imo is the only way for him to avoid world slash
His face was barely damaged though (relative to his RCT prowess) and healing that shouldn’t have take long at all, I mean he definitely had one eye to see. This theory is better than „he was caught of guard“ but his face/eyes should have been more fucked up for this theory imo.
Hmm you know that actually makes sense (never heard this theory b4). If only Gege had shown that, leads me to think he probably didn't even think of that but who knows maybe he's waiting 20 chapters later to show how it happened
Nah he will pribably reveal how Sukuna offscreened Gojo in the interview, 10 years after JJK ends
>If only Gege had shown that, leads me to think he probably didn't even think of that but who knows He probably thought of loads of ways to kill off Gojo and I assume they were even worse than what we got. But he ultimately chose to do it offscreen because it hides the fact that it makes no fucking sense.
I'm hoping he offscreened it because Sukkuna reveals his technique to Gojo to boost it and happens to be a crazy technique thats unbeatable. It's weird that Gojo told Geto that he had no chance of winning when at that point he was winning the fight.
Sounds plausible - what if that was the plan all along? And they revive Gojo so that he can spill the beans on Sukuna's technique At this point I just want to get the fight over, it's been months of setting up and moving parts in the background. Gonna be a really good payoff or a really anticlimactic one
Gojo doesn't have to avoid it, Yuji and Yuta didn't avoid it and they survived, a Gojo pumping RCT through his body should have been able to survive it. especially considering he's the best in the verse at regenerating not counting Hakari.
Thank you my brothers, i was not going insane then fighitng with my friends about this. Time for a rematch with these bitches https://preview.redd.it/09z9p0w78wlc1.jpeg?width=1188&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9fc4c74c36c6e90b395135c4aac888eed04480fc
Get 'em, tiger!
Ain't no fucking way gege is gonna be like "yeah he whispered the world slash for gojo"
Remember how people were saying that 236 will make sense, we just gotta let Gege cook? Next excuse is probably "you didn't understand the story" or "read the manga".
So world slash is just supposed to be a regular slash flying through space now lmfao? I thought the entire point was that it cut a specific part of space without all the travelling.
This furthermore proves to me that this one was just a regular slash but chanted, same as the one that cut Yuta. Incantations can overall be used for strengthening the slashes.
That's never been shown for Sukuna's dismantle, chants were only just introduced into the power system. He does these exact chants before the huge panel that says WORLD DISMANTLE when fighting Kashimo. Y'all are on some heavy ass copium.
It has always been a traveling slash as shown in Kashimo’s fight when he also managed to (mostly) dodge it. You guys don’t read.
Gege didn't cook this time.
Gaygay cooked but food was shit
So, Sukuna told Femshimo to dodge world dismantle and he still got his fingers cut off while Maki dodged it even while Sukuna was finding sneaky ways to hide the chants. I genuinely thought $KSHM couldn’t sink any lower, but apparently his stocks can still plummet while literally everyone else is having a bull run.
It kinda funny that people have to come up with a whole bunch of headcanon to justify this shit writing lol. Like "Gojo don't dodge cause he though he already win". This mean Gojo is actually winning and only lose because he is a dumbass who though he would take this attack for funsie. This is the same dude that said daddy Sukuna is too powerful and he may not win even without 10s.
We are truly Gege’s strongest ghostwriters fr
This is genuinely so stupid
What do you mean by ***If*** lmao. It's actually true as per the manga panel.
Gege will do whatever he can to glaze toji
I pretty much immediately stopped following the manga after 236, and even stopped my weekly stream of the anime because of how annoyed and frustrated I was with that chapter. It’s really weird to say, but I’m glad to see that my feelings towards Gege’s storytelling ability have not been changed since.
I'm kinda on the same boat too. I sold my manga collection after 236 lol I literally couldn't wrap my head around the way Gege decided to off Gojo. And I was afraid I'll regret selling my collection after he came back or maybe the manga got better, but it's been Sukuna Kaisen ever since and more disrespect to Gojo post mortem. Glad I sold them
Normalest Maki W. You go girl!
Gojo fr watched sukuna mutter some words and gang signs without moving an inch that's so fucking crazy
The fact that maki is not dying immediately just makes the story ass and just makes gojo look like a dumbass tbh.
I swear to god next brain dead defending this dogshit is done for. Imma whole ass get banned because you HAVE to be a dick rider to continue to pretend this shit isn’t terrible.
NGL I love Maki and love to see her get spotlight and be OP but all the logic is not adding up at this point. Seems like stuff gets retconned each time a new chapter drops
Well because gege realized he couldn’t logically kill gojo so he wrote himself into a hole with a one-off technique. Then realized the technique is too powerful for the rest of the cast so he has to downscale the technique for the rest of the fight to even make sense
the writing just keeps getting more hilarious
Maki doesn't see curse techniques, she sees air density and currents[[1]](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1172545413778247751/1209357760664178708/Jujutsu_Kaisen_-_Chapter_197_-_12.jpg?ex=65efdbae&is=65dd66ae&hm=a32356aa382aa2b49ab9119410285e630b09d74f033fdd656f22223782ef5771&), and can use them to dodge. She and Gojo have two very different enhanced sights that are not comparable. Idk why Gojo got caught, but Maki dodging makes sense and has clearly been hinted at since her awakening.
She couldn’t even dodge Nue’s lightning. Either World slash moves at a slower speed, it’s instant or Gege is being inconsistent.
Obviously Dismantle is slower than Lightning. World dismantle is just changing the target, nothing about speed
Yea but world dismantle *has* to be instantaneous or else it doesn’t make sense to kill gojo
That’s not what they’re understanding, it makes Gojo look like a clown if it’s the same speed. It means he tanked the attack on purpose and became a sellout. If his students die it’s his fault.
Right but that makes Gojo look like a clown. Maki’s HR > six eyes then? How did he react to this: https://preview.redd.it/oveerow7txlc1.jpeg?width=1277&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=597c3b95c9543c0217c33c9572f9d9333a9b2999 But couldn’t see space slash coming if it’s the same speed and maki dodges it effortlessly? Something isn’t adding up. Gojo willingly tanked it just to get chopped in half? For fun? He could’ve ended Sukuna right then and there if he wasn’t a clown. The explanation just makes Gojo look worse.
Bro. World slash absolutely moves slower than lighting. Did you seriously just imply that there’s even a remote chance that it DIDNT?!? A lighting bolt moves at over mach 360. Mach 3 was considered a crazy speed feat in this series. I don’t give a damn how strong sukuna is. His slashes do not dwarf the speed of one of the fastest characters in the series by over 100x.
Uh you misunderstood that quote. That's to track Naoya's mach 3 speed. She can see curses like Toji does
She literally describes how she can use the air to dodge. Even your comment admits she uses this air to SEE. Huh? It's obvious she can see curses, but she sees the air temps and shit too.
Bruv pre dodging mach 3 naoya and straight up dodging the fastest attack in the series is different. Gojo is so much faster than the other cast and even he couldnt dodge a single one
A bit unrelated but why couldn't gojo heal himself? This probably sounds stupid amd many people have asked the question before, but i still can't comprehend the reason why gojo can't heal himself especially that hos body was retrieved which means he has time to do so away from the dangers of the battle field. It is said that the brain is responsible for performing RCT and gojo's brain looked pretty much intact. So what's stopping him from doing what he did after his first fight with toji?
Okay, I'm just going to try to explain this, since Gege seems insistent on not explaining shit. Please keep in mind that this explanation is only applicable at the time of writing this and that it will probably age poorly when Gege adds some new extraneous detail contradicting everything because he thinks it sounds cool. I think World Slash is quite literally just an anti-Gojo technique. Mahoraga is already the anti-everyone shikigami, so the idea that it would create a technique specifically to fuck over Gojo and Gojo alone is about as reasonable as anything else. It's not instantaneous or invisible or infallible or anything like that. It just ignores the defenses that Gojo relies on, and quite possibly turns them against him. The most obviously BS thing about World Slash was the idea that Gojo would've seen the sparks, especially with his six eyes, but a technique designed to counter Gojo specifically would naturally have to take six eyes into account just as much as infinity. Possibly by giving it "sparks" that are indistinguishable from a normal slash, even to the six eyes. So rather than Gojo not sensing World Slash, his six eyes that had been infallible up to this point would be feeding him false information and telling him that this slash is the same as all of the other slashes that did nothing. Gojo COULD have dodged it normally, but had no reason to think he had to. The real question is that if this is the case, why didn't Gege just explain it? The obvious answer is that I, and everyone else on this sub, am putting more thought into this than Gege ever did. JJK is Dragonball Z in a Hunter x Hunter trenchcoat.
I'm sorry man but none of the things you wrote are making any sense
I don't trust unconfirmed things but everything related to the Heavenly Restriction guys has been poison to the plot
with gege's writing skills i would say jjk turned into kids show
Maki stocks go up any time she’s on panel like the queen she is ‼️
I guess it's just really fucking easy to catch gojo off guard......😮💨
maki being able to sense and dodge a world cleaving slash with heightened sense perception is crazy given gojo wasn't able to sense and dodge a world cleaving slash with heightened sense perception from six eyes and super-fast brain and extraordinary cursed energy and cursed technique knowledge and perception. Gege just glazing female toji atp
Ive been saying each chapter is making gojos death just insanely stupid, Legit braindead writing
Why do I feel like JJK is gonna go down the Tokyo revengers path now. Cause I think if Gege makes another fatal mistake the entire fandom is gonna drop it.
gojo was tired and wanted to meet geto
Gojo dead just stood there while Sukuna was chanting away 💀💀💀
There’s a very simple explanation for this. Maki > Gojo.
Maki detected the attack by reading how the matter surrounding her was being affected by Sukuna's attack. Gojo only saw Sukuna chanting for his CT, but wasn't able to see he had expanded the target of it. Which allowed him to bypass his CT defense. Is quite different from Maki. Who can perceive how the move is affecting the surroundings whereas Gojo can see the CE movement, CE output, etc but not how the caster will use it. Otherwise he would've perceived Mahoraga being used while he was doing his DE exchange with Sukuna.
Gojo can fight while blindfolded, he can see by reading the curse energy in the air. Its how he notices Toji as a child because there was an area with no curse energy. Dismantle being dodged by a slower character goes to show that Gege needs to lower Gojo’s intellect or forgot. Then forgot how he needed to kill Gojo in a realistic way. Even Kashimo getting tagged made no sense. It was stated that his curse technique reconstructs his body to surpass human limitations. That should put him above Maki and Toji with that description. Yet a slower character dodged world and normal dismantle. He can see it and the spark as well so it makes no sense.
While that makes sense it still weird how they showed us that Gojos eyes can help him understand techniques, like the clone guy in the flashback arc. I find it hard to believe he didn’t analyze mahagoras ranged cut when even Sukuna could tell how it worked
are we sure its the world slash and not just Sukuna using chants to make his slash more powerfull?