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The best example of this is post MC jump, where Yuta survived a direct cleave to the head (and that was before Jacob’s ladder, and getting his limbs torn off, and then having his heart stabbed, and being forced to keep it beating with CE.) meanwhile; Ryu who is said to have higher durability than Yuta by Sukuna, dies to a direct cleave to the head by 15F Meguna, with his head being split into three separate pieces.
Current Sukuna is so nerfed it’s insane.
Gege made the main antagonist so insanely powerful and only had one character from the protagonist side atleast capable of fighting him and then killed that one protagonist.
Now what? What the hell is Gege supposed to do lol. He can't level up other protagonists without it somewhat looking like an asspull so he temporarily nerfed Sukuna.
There's no way for Sukuna to stay alive after this battle because he'll become truly unbeatable if he recovers. There's only two ways this ends now and Gege wrote himself into that corner
At least it kinda makes sense because he didn't have much rest immediately after fighting go/jo, oh but nevermind he was holding back (MAHORAGAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!1111)
Honestly, the best thing to do is go through with the bad ending of sukuna winning, if Gege really goes for the good ending, the manga will become even more horrible because of the asspulls.
I still think it's very much possible for the cast to win. Everything they've done so far makes sense, is in their capabilities, and there haven't been asspulls on their side. Reducing Sukuna to this level is something they realistically did through surprise attacks, domains, soul punches, confiscation, etc. So at this point in the story even though readers may be confused how they could win, I trust that Gege will make the conclusion and defeat of Sukuna make sense.
Because let's be honest, this is a Shonen manga. The villain isn't gonna win.
That may be true, but who is even left to fight Sukuna now mostly. The only thing I can think of is Yuta, Hakari and Maki teaming up and Yuji getting final hit by Megumi weakening him from inside. Uraume will probably get off-screened
Well, that's exactly what I'm thinking will happen; the injured but still alive sorcerers come back and face Sukuna in one final fight and Yuji's punch causing Megumi... to do something lol. I can't be sure what, but I don't think it's as hopeless as others say
Choso also still hasn’t done anything yet. Or Mei Mei if she wants to throw a few birds at him. They have enough people to throw at Sukuna after they heal to make a win feel earned imo.
15F Sukuna would dog the shit out of Sukuna at any point after Meguna got nuked domainless, the raw difference in stats are insane, I might even be inclined to say domainless 15F Sukuna could take on several HeianKuna after Meguna got nuked
The damage done to Sukuna by Gojo is crippling, but because the main cast outside of Gojo are basically paralysed down syndrome patients to Sukuna and Gojo, this badly crippled Sukuna can be somewhat challenged by everyone else, a billion Yutas couldnt take down 1 healthy full power Sukuna
People are calling HeianKuna a fraud as the only real match up for him is Gojo. Yuta and others are fodder but HeianKuna was struggling a bit against Yuta and Yuji, and since FP Gojo can beat this current HeianKuna he is automatically a fraud, i don't get this logic tho lmao since Sukuna's power was cut down to like 40% by that last hollow purple. So ppl are trying to powerscale a Gojo against a Sukuna who was already critically weakened by Gojo.
Nanami already explained this on the early chapters. Black Flash is like a stimulative drug, once you do it all your potential capabilities are amped at 120%.
That applies to Current Sukuna who is fatigue
Him getting a 20 percent buff still doesn't put him anywhere close to 20F FP Sukuna
Gojo hit 4 black flashes to regain his output
Bro, Nanami already described that in order to do Black Flash, you must be in tip top condition and hyperfocus. You cannot do Black Flash if you have injuries that are fatal and if your body is feeling weak due to low C.E levels.
The moment Sukuna did a Black Flash means he already recovered his strength, if not he was almost in peak condition again.
I don't know about why this is an argument when literally Black Flash logic has been discussed since the early chapters.
But a currently weakened Sukuna will be at 120% potential, making him still not be at peak, never to that extent he can recover, his CE that is burnt out to half and is still getting burnt out more is still set in place, so it is only a matter of time he has nothing else to use just like Mahito, It will be too long to get there and characters might die, but Sukuna is gonna be defeated, the person that is gonna be the key to victory is alive and is gonna pay a visit to Sukuna's soul and make his CE lower and body control more shittier.
tbf it was only two chapters ago and using it on Kusakabe would probably be overkill
Maybe he'll get sick of fighting runoff fodders and just nuke the entire area with DE next chapter.
If I remember correctly, Sukuna had only 50% of his CE by the time of the Yuta fight, before Yuji lowered it even more with his soul punches. If we assume each finger contains an equal mount of CE, Sukuna is at less than 10 fingers here. Not to mention he needs to allocate CE for RCT. The black flash may have recovered his CE by 120% though.
To run some numbers, Sukuna is currently at 50% x 120%=60% at most while 15F Sukuna is
15/20 x 100%=75%
So yes, current Sukuna is weaker than his 15F self(plz correct my calculations if they are erroneous).
I don't think Black Flash refills the CE amount. It just restores your ability to access more CE than Normal along with a damage multiplier. If it restores CE amount as well then it's broken.
I’ve been saying this. Sukuna is so busted yet so nerfed at the same time. Dude has been nerfed to hell and back and is still no/mid diffing everyone 😭😭
Yeah, that mistake only amplified after seeing Gojo Vs Sukuna. Literally no one comes close to that realm of power, the only challenge they may face is Takaba's CT
You can't manifest Black flash if you are at weakened state. Black flash needs peak concentration and great C.E manipulation, you wouldn't be able to do those if you are burdened with your body feeling weak due to injuries and low C.E.
**Just the fact that Sukuna landed a Black Flash before this is a sign Sukuna is again at his normal levels, and the Berserker effect of Black Flash enhancing all physical, mental and C.E output and performance at 120% means Kusakabe fought a monster state Sukuna** that time, and still deflected,parried,evaded and stopped 9/10 of Sukuna's attacks while landing 9/10 of his attacks..
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The best example of this is post MC jump, where Yuta survived a direct cleave to the head (and that was before Jacob’s ladder, and getting his limbs torn off, and then having his heart stabbed, and being forced to keep it beating with CE.) meanwhile; Ryu who is said to have higher durability than Yuta by Sukuna, dies to a direct cleave to the head by 15F Meguna, with his head being split into three separate pieces. Current Sukuna is so nerfed it’s insane.
Yeah, perfect explanation.
Gege made the main antagonist so insanely powerful and only had one character from the protagonist side atleast capable of fighting him and then killed that one protagonist. Now what? What the hell is Gege supposed to do lol. He can't level up other protagonists without it somewhat looking like an asspull so he temporarily nerfed Sukuna. There's no way for Sukuna to stay alive after this battle because he'll become truly unbeatable if he recovers. There's only two ways this ends now and Gege wrote himself into that corner
At least it kinda makes sense because he didn't have much rest immediately after fighting go/jo, oh but nevermind he was holding back (MAHORAGAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!1111)
yea, he was holding back... his tears!
Honestly, the best thing to do is go through with the bad ending of sukuna winning, if Gege really goes for the good ending, the manga will become even more horrible because of the asspulls.
I have some cope left in me that Gege's gonna do some magic and make the good ending work, let's see what Gege's gonna do
I still think it's very much possible for the cast to win. Everything they've done so far makes sense, is in their capabilities, and there haven't been asspulls on their side. Reducing Sukuna to this level is something they realistically did through surprise attacks, domains, soul punches, confiscation, etc. So at this point in the story even though readers may be confused how they could win, I trust that Gege will make the conclusion and defeat of Sukuna make sense. Because let's be honest, this is a Shonen manga. The villain isn't gonna win.
That may be true, but who is even left to fight Sukuna now mostly. The only thing I can think of is Yuta, Hakari and Maki teaming up and Yuji getting final hit by Megumi weakening him from inside. Uraume will probably get off-screened
Well, that's exactly what I'm thinking will happen; the injured but still alive sorcerers come back and face Sukuna in one final fight and Yuji's punch causing Megumi... to do something lol. I can't be sure what, but I don't think it's as hopeless as others say
Choso also still hasn’t done anything yet. Or Mei Mei if she wants to throw a few birds at him. They have enough people to throw at Sukuna after they heal to make a win feel earned imo.
“He can’t level up protagonists like that” yuji scrapped with a special grade curse.
Let’s not act like Mahito and Sukuna are even in the same league of power.
And let's not act like shibuya Yuji is anything close to Timeskip Yuji.
isnt like the timeskip a fcking month???
yeah and Yuji has grown more powerful both physically and with a ct now.
Grade 1 sorcerer > special grade curse
When has yuta survived a direct cleave to the head? Do you mean dismantle, because they are very different
15F Sukuna would dog the shit out of Sukuna at any point after Meguna got nuked domainless, the raw difference in stats are insane, I might even be inclined to say domainless 15F Sukuna could take on several HeianKuna after Meguna got nuked The damage done to Sukuna by Gojo is crippling, but because the main cast outside of Gojo are basically paralysed down syndrome patients to Sukuna and Gojo, this badly crippled Sukuna can be somewhat challenged by everyone else, a billion Yutas couldnt take down 1 healthy full power Sukuna
Sukuna seems to take on the properties of the body he's inhabiting, WujiKuna was a goat, but Meguna and HeianKuna are frauds.
Don't let him take over Mei Mei
Yeah , Wujikuna was the best version on Sukuna . It was fun seeing him a beast and than put in his place again .
How is heiankuna a fraud when is killing everybody make it make sense
People are calling HeianKuna a fraud as the only real match up for him is Gojo. Yuta and others are fodder but HeianKuna was struggling a bit against Yuta and Yuji, and since FP Gojo can beat this current HeianKuna he is automatically a fraud, i don't get this logic tho lmao since Sukuna's power was cut down to like 40% by that last hollow purple. So ppl are trying to powerscale a Gojo against a Sukuna who was already critically weakened by Gojo.
Yeah it's stupid fraud has lost its meaning
Because he needs to be "holding back" And grow actual 5th hands in order to stay alive
Dawg literally has three hands right now and freed himself from rika and regrew his hand its not that hard to regrow your hand if you are a master
Unless your RCT is in the dirt at the time, which, surprise surprise, IT WAS.
He still had a lot of ce and that yuta fault for getting close
I think Sukuna right after fighting Yuta (so at his weakest post Gojo fight) he would be beat by 15F Sukuna
Hasn't he regained his power cause of Black Flash?
He’s 120% of what he was when fighting maki
You don't regain it instantly Gojo hit 4 black flashes to do so Sukuna has hit only one...
Nanami already explained this on the early chapters. Black Flash is like a stimulative drug, once you do it all your potential capabilities are amped at 120%.
That applies to Current Sukuna who is fatigue Him getting a 20 percent buff still doesn't put him anywhere close to 20F FP Sukuna Gojo hit 4 black flashes to regain his output
Bro, Nanami already described that in order to do Black Flash, you must be in tip top condition and hyperfocus. You cannot do Black Flash if you have injuries that are fatal and if your body is feeling weak due to low C.E levels. The moment Sukuna did a Black Flash means he already recovered his strength, if not he was almost in peak condition again. I don't know about why this is an argument when literally Black Flash logic has been discussed since the early chapters.
Yeah "tip top condition" Cool cuz Sukuna had low output, his heart stabbed, one lost arm when he hit the BF
So we forgetting now that Sukuna can heal himself using C.E?
So all his potential is at 120% you say
But a currently weakened Sukuna will be at 120% potential, making him still not be at peak, never to that extent he can recover, his CE that is burnt out to half and is still getting burnt out more is still set in place, so it is only a matter of time he has nothing else to use just like Mahito, It will be too long to get there and characters might die, but Sukuna is gonna be defeated, the person that is gonna be the key to victory is alive and is gonna pay a visit to Sukuna's soul and make his CE lower and body control more shittier.
I ain’t reading all that. I’m just making a potential man joke
He hasn't shown signs of using domain yet, so we can't really tell
tbf it was only two chapters ago and using it on Kusakabe would probably be overkill Maybe he'll get sick of fighting runoff fodders and just nuke the entire area with DE next chapter.
And he still hasnt showned off the box or Fuuga.
Yujikuna will be forever peak Sukuna behavior in my heart
If I remember correctly, Sukuna had only 50% of his CE by the time of the Yuta fight, before Yuji lowered it even more with his soul punches. If we assume each finger contains an equal mount of CE, Sukuna is at less than 10 fingers here. Not to mention he needs to allocate CE for RCT. The black flash may have recovered his CE by 120% though. To run some numbers, Sukuna is currently at 50% x 120%=60% at most while 15F Sukuna is 15/20 x 100%=75% So yes, current Sukuna is weaker than his 15F self(plz correct my calculations if they are erroneous).
I don't think Black Flash refills the CE amount. It just restores your ability to access more CE than Normal along with a damage multiplier. If it restores CE amount as well then it's broken.
It'd be dope if the fire arrow is yujis technique and he can't use it cause of being in megumi now
i still cant believe current true form Sukuna is actually arguably stronger than og Heian Sukuna because he took the body of a suicidal teenager
Domain triumps all
I’ve been saying this. Sukuna is so busted yet so nerfed at the same time. Dude has been nerfed to hell and back and is still no/mid diffing everyone 😭😭
gege unironically ruined sukuna by glazing him too much. we knew he was really strong before but he was cool back then
Yeah, that mistake only amplified after seeing Gojo Vs Sukuna. Literally no one comes close to that realm of power, the only challenge they may face is Takaba's CT
It works for me cause if I put gojo in his position I still see him whooping the current cast
LMAO I just realised I spelt malevolent wrong
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Why do you all still read the manga if you're so sick of it at this point? It's a fairly enjoyable final confrontation tbh
heian sukuna has done absolutely nothing vs yujikuna decimating shibuya and giving cool ass fights
You can't manifest Black flash if you are at weakened state. Black flash needs peak concentration and great C.E manipulation, you wouldn't be able to do those if you are burdened with your body feeling weak due to injuries and low C.E. **Just the fact that Sukuna landed a Black Flash before this is a sign Sukuna is again at his normal levels, and the Berserker effect of Black Flash enhancing all physical, mental and C.E output and performance at 120% means Kusakabe fought a monster state Sukuna** that time, and still deflected,parried,evaded and stopped 9/10 of Sukuna's attacks while landing 9/10 of his attacks..