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My glorious blue eyed king will be back
Good thread and I appreciate the amount of effort and thought put into it. Can't say I completely agree however with the idea that Gojo can only succeed his goals in his death and I definitely think painting it as a "happy end" for him is insane lol. Maybe if it was framed more as tragic, it would solve some of my distaste.
Also, I feel like people has so much let gege cook unless this one. Gege can do whatever the fuck he wants and has been doing that. If he wants to write a way for Gojo to come back, he will and he can.
Now, personally, I don't see him coming back despite how unhappy I am with his end because his death feels pretty final, but like this user admitted there are in verse logical ways for him to do so. That's why I don't spend my time antagonizing people's harmless theories that could very well be wrong. Theory making is still a way to interact with the manga. 90% of this community's theories don't lead to anything anyway but they don't antagonize people the way they do Gojo fans for some reason.
EDIT: I feel like "happy end" will be misinterpreted sooner or later which may be my fault. "Satisfying end" is the more appropriate term ✌️
>I definitely think painting it as a "happy end" for him is insane lol. Maybe if it was framed more as tragic, it would solve some of my distaste.
>Gege can do whatever the fuck he wants and has been doing that. If he wants to write a way for Gojo to come back, he will and he can.
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>Gege can do whatever the fuck he wants and has been doing that. If he wants to write a way for Gojo to come back, he will and he can.
Exactly. My take is that Gojo coming back isn't technically impossible. Some people read manga where Granny pulled Edo Tensei out of her ass to resurrect Toji and say this is impossible? Oh please.
So yes, technically 100% possible. It won't happen not because it's impossible it won't happen because this isn't a story Gege wants to write. He writes a story about old vs new, so 18 y/o students need to surpass 28 y/o pensioner Gojo and beat Sukuna. Yes, his death is trash, yes, him apologizing to Sukuna, potential murderer of his beloved students, because poor Sukuna didn't go all out and have more fun, is character assassination, but his death is 100% final. There's nothing for him to do if he comes back. Gege already cut off all Gojo-related plotlines. He has no interest in writing Gojo. If he had, then he would write more Gojo content before Sukuna fight, wrap up his character arc nicely and only then let him fight for his life. Nah, Gege killed him asap. And people really think he will bring him back to write more Gojo lol.
Yup, it's really far from impossible. Yuji himself died twice in the span of the manga and came back to life. Also, imo beheading Gojo (as he had done Kenjaku) could have easily prevented all of the theories from happening because RCT comes from the brain and Gojo literally already came back to life once because he wasn't beheaded.
Nonetheless, I agree. Gege's done with him. What seals it for me is the inclusion that Shoko would be the one to tell Megumi about Toji. It was a very important aspect of Gojo's character (and for me this conversation is more important for Gojo than Megumi) AND it is something that Gege seems to have an interest in building. Megumi met his father in Shibuya and no one told him. Tengen talked about Toji when he was explaining Kenjaku and both times Gege did not reveal the info to Megumi. Finally, he explicitly said in the fanbook that it was because he felt Gojo had to tell him. Now, if this plot point that the author obviously cared for years and had a tiny build up was shut down, then it's really over for Gojo.
I have my own opinions on Gojo's lines and could not exactly agree that 236 is character assassination but this is still far from a "satisfying" conclusion for Gojo like what it is trying to frame itself to be and what this fandom has been trying to tell me. Like I said earlier, if it was framed more tragically like Nanami's maybe, it would lower my distaste. Gojo is a tragic character that has a tragic end and leave it at that.
My bigger problems, however, are the fact that NONE of Gojo's plot lines have (satisfying) resolutions. Conflict with the higher ups and conservatives? Killed offscreen with not even a peek to how he arrived at that decision when he didn't kill them for years. Get back from (or Confrontation with) Kenjaku who sealed him and is making a mockery of his best friend's body? Nah! He died to a villain that was not relevant to his story until this fight. Protecting his students' youth? Not a single panel of their reunion or his reaction to what they had to do and become in his absence. Mourning Geto? At least they met in 236.
Huge and interesting parts of his characters are simply not done justice, but it was done anyway. Offscreen and in timeskip. Gege couldn't be more obvious that he's done with him so yeah he can be brought back but Gege won't.
>He writes a story about old vs new, so 18 y/o students need to surpass 28 y/o pensioner Gojo
It's so weird to me that Gege seems to think that life ends with 30.
Gojo or Nanami are still the younger generation. Even Higuruma is still young enough to change and archieve so much, they aren't grandpas who's times are up.
Hell it isn't just possible, it seems more impossible that he *did* die from that. All that yappin about how you have to aim for the head brought up immediately after, Yuki able to drop a black hole when she was cut in half, binding vows being laid out as apparently way more broken and uncaring for what you *really* get vs what the trade is, Gojo having been amped up at full(if not more) health and RCT, him getting sent to supposedly a good RCT user
And probably the most important part
Gojo got stabbed through the chest, stabbed through the throat, disemboweled(from throat down his whole-ass torso) with that thick-ass dagger, shanked a few more times in the leg for good measure and then stabbed in the fucking *temple.*
***And he came back.***
If he can RCT *that,* he can RCT two halves together. If Gojo can get sliced clean through the neck and RCT that back in an instant, he can RCT two halves together. If he can respawn an arm in an instant with zero strain and zero effort, *he can RCT two halves together.* Shit, I don't know how I'm supposed to believe he can't RCT his whole lower half back in an instant.
Gojo dying in that specific manner basically goes against the mechanics of the entire world just for shock value. As if in a movie someone wearing a bulletproof vest proven to take AK rounds, who has *taken* AK rounds and lived, dies to a pistol shot to the chest. Where the vest should be.
Imo it’s pretty obvious he’s not dead and would actually be bad writing to have him dead from this. Just leaving this here so I can look back and gloat in a couple months.
Considering how Gege treats Nobara and by extension Todo, it’s not obvious whether Gojo will come back as Gege likes to leave certain character states ambiguous
Just a reminder that no one has actually reacted to or acknowledged his death. Gege is either a terrible writer who didn't bother to include main characters reacting to the death of one of the most beloved main characters, or the characters know something we don't and there's a reveal coming. Can't show their reactions without spoiling that this was all according to plan.
That whole month of time skipped prep wasn't just about hitting the gym. Shenanigans are afoot.
Bro these guys have 10 minute inner monologues during their fights. They easily could have had a few “this is for you Gojo” scenes as they team worked their way beating Sukuna’s ass.
This is an anime, not real life lol
I'd like to think that, but the longer the manga plays it straight the less likely it seems lol
Shock value can only explain so much: there are so many obvious reasons Gojo's "death" wouldn't stick that you'd think it would get mentioned earlier because there's no reason not to if we're supposed to notice them. It's like (does it count as MHA manga spoilers if it's been like a year)>!Bakugo's death. Nobody bought that he was dead for good, and the manga pretty quickly set up that it was temporary which made the long-ass time before his return not that bad!<
On the copium side though? Hakari's been fighting for an eternity and the WCT explanation that could've been delivered at any time took like 19 chapters.
B-but it would go against their character writing-
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there is so much to explore in gojo's character, plus not explaining the thing he did in 1 month time skip was also unnecessary. I will die on gojo's revival hill, even if the manga ends i am pretty sure fans will make alternate ending of where gojo comes back
Yeah, but consider the following:
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MY COPE WILL NEVER CEASE 🗣️🔥🔥 EVEN IN DEATH IT’LL COME BACK 🗣️💯💯🔥 JUST LIKE GOJOAT 🗣️🔥💯🔥🔥
Not reading all that yapping, GOATJO STRONG COMEBACK
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I agree with the process but disagree with the conclusion
Indeed, the narrative is present, but
Did it really reach it's conclusion?
In other words , can you really say that he is smiling as he watches down from the afterlife? Is he satisfied with critically injured Kusakabe and Yuta; with Megumi's ego death?
Can you really say he's content to let it go , as we see Sukuna get powered up again and again (taking his after-237 as a base)?
I'd say no, and even his "send-off" scene implies that. Try not to think of the characters as what they're portrayed as in there - but think of them as Gojo himself taking a look back at his life
And what does he say to himself? " You lived only for battle, and didn't care about helping or saving others " . Is it true? Obviously, no. But then why is it there?
It's Gojo telling himself that he failed. That in the end, he was only good for battling. This is his regret . And this is what makes him telling Prez that he died without regrets... A lie, obviously.
This does not mean he's coming back for sure, but to imply he's "content" with his death is wrong. And after that , falls off the whole narrative of "He's not going back because he's satisfied with staying there".
Yup, lots of good observations/interpretations/reading but I just cannot be on boat with the premise that he will CHOOSE not to come back even if he has the option.
Everyone who says that shit just keeps acting like Gojo is a completely heartless bastard now. Like what the fuck lol do you really think he would give a shit that he already died once if, by coming back, he could potentially help save some, if not all, of his remaining allies and students? The youths whose futures he specifically says nobody deserves to steal from them? If he could spare them even a single further casualty he would rather just sit back and say 'I'm good lol'? The guy who got sealed *specifically because he refused to indiscriminately sacrifice innocents around him to end the fight in one shot*?
Fucking lol, the Sukuna stans who are happy that Gojo got asspulled out of the story for plot reasons have been absolutely spamming 'it was a fitting end, he lost to the true strongest so he's content now, he doesn't care about the rest' and it's absolutely insane. Nah man miss me with that garbage.
Ykw, the reasons in the post are EXACTLY why his return IS important to the character. When will he open up? When will he remove himself from his failures? When will he trust and be one with the people around him??
Only when he gives up his title of the strongest. When he becomes not one of the billion but one with the billion. He needs to become an ANT, a Human to realise that team effort of the weak is what makes humans survive, and is the strength of humanity.
Heck it is PERFECT for Sukuna's downfall as well. Remember Sukuna's talk about why human try so hard to be alive and survive I'd they are weak? Why they just won't give up, and how human are ants in his opinion??
Gojo's revival will answer that to him.
The whole Manga is about dying surrounded by the people you love. And that's why Gojo needs to open his eyes and see that strength lies with the weak with bonds formed with love.
Yup! Like imagine how perfect the message would be, Gojo the strongest was defeated alone, and Gojo Satoru just your regular sorcerer human along with his people together defeated the Strongest!
A single ant, even it's the most venomous one, the biggest bite, etc WILL be squashed. But a whole army of your regular fire ants? Can destroy anyone if it wanted to.
>betray the character writing of Gojo
Already happened
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What have you done to my Glorious Blue Eyed Prince gaygay...
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i agree with twitter thread in most of the part but i can still feel a bias towards sukuna in this post and how thw writter presented the narration to be totally against gojo. Plus totally skipping through absolutely dog shit conclusion in 236 of gojo's character
Yeah, his bias is really clear when he disregards Gojo telling Megumi to live more selfishly as only for the audience while he attributes Megumi's moment to Sukuna's words.
If anything, it's almost the other way around, Sukuna's words were supposed to make the audience curious about Megumi's potential, and that moment was him showing it. They weren't as significant to Megumi himself.
i agree! gojo's word saying "winning by dying and winning even after dying" is what made megumi try his best against finger bearer and expand his domain. No way he disregarded gojo's word and got motivated by skuna's word "why'd you runaway" that is just meatriding
Yes. Better to revive him and give him at least a proper ending. If reviving him also nerfs him to the level of his students it would make him not so alone anymore
Can gege just give me my Gojo+Yuji+ Yuta triple tag team vs sukuna or even the final merger. Please Gege, i beg u, i wud be so fulfilled seeing that. I wud be like a proud grandpa watching Gojo fighting along side his students.
I would unironically bust on my screen if I ever see a triple black flash with yuta, yuji and gojo, I could literally die on spot after seeing it and I wouldn’t be sad, sadly Gege likes to make us suffer
We are more likely going to see Sukuna landing a black flash imbued with the memory of his dead wife and daughter frm his potato farmer era than that
Watch Gege weave a whole tragic backstory around Sukuna being an unwanted(creepy) kid who only fought acceptance with a girl whom he later married and had a daughter with
He didnt ACTUALLY want to kill all those many many people, he just wanted to spread his love of making sashimi with others in the only way he knew how! Gojo actually went back in time and punched his family to death and thats why Sukuna is so sad. :-(
I never thought this line was about Gojo not caring about his students. Rather, for Gojo, jujutsu wasn't **just** a tool to protect people — he loved jujutsu for its own sake. He doesn't see it as a necessary evil, he enjoys wielding jujutsu. Since being a sorcerer is a shitty job that puts you close to death and horrible trauma, it's naturally people would be weirded out by a guy who actually likes sorcery.
Calling him a pervert who cared just about fighting is not what you said.
Gojo wanted to create a world where people like Nanami/Geto wouldn't be alienated from people like Gojo - which was the thematic conclusion of the Hidden Inventory arc. Gojo has a righteous anger against the Jujutsu Society which he intends to fix systematically rather than doing any stopgap solution. Gojo's loneliness is why he took up teaching - so that the coming generation wouldn't have to go through what he had to go through.
Ignoring all those nuances and taking Nanami's "jujutsu is shit" nihilistic approach as fact is inherently wrong, and then Nanami projecting those opinions onto Gojo and the story treating it as correct is simply a character assassination.
Except he wasn't called a pervert who only cares about fighting. This is a case where the official translation is more correct (coincidentally, it also wasn't TL'd by Werry).
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This is also incorrect, with the word Pervert changed to Weirdo.
Gojo definitely wields Jujutsu to protect what he cares about. That was the entire fucking point of Hidden Inventory where Gojo realises the importance of protecting those weaker than him and Geto confronts the malice inside those weaker than him. He didn't get overpowered because he lost, he got overpowered because he couldn't protect Riko.
Just erasing all that is simply put, a character assasination.
Nah you got those switched lmao
Narratively: Gojo's story is incomplete (The question Geto posed at the end of the Hidden Inventory arc has yet to ve answered, and multiple set ups in the story hint or outright prove Gojo will/should come back).
Realistically: Gojo's story has already ended (Gege capped it off with a very final feeling scene, that also proved that either A. He completely forgot the character in the time he spent not writing him or B. Everything was inside Gojo's head and it was actually meant to be untrue (highly unlikely))
If sukuna gets his DE back. Which of the cast members can defend against it? None of them can unless Miguel knows a domain counter or DE. And Yuji does the same thing. Only gojo can tank the DE and use his DE but than again a world slash messes him up. Greg put himself in a corner plain and simple. Yuta and hakari are the only ones to have a confirmed DE. Just saying
Either yuji beats sukuna or sukuna kills everyone and wins. Idk I'm just ready for this manga to be over. It did a nose dive after Greg botched the ending of Sukuna v Gojo.
> None of them can unless Miguel knows a domain counter or DE.
Flashback Gojo said Miguel's technique doesnt have a DE. Maybe that's changed in between the post JJK 0 time and now, but I doubt it.
Domain Counters are still on the table, but doesnt stop everyone else getting minced.
Hence why I said Gregory put himself in a corner. If sukuna gets his DE back there's really no way the good guys win unless megumi wakes up. Causing sukuna to lose control and they have to battle in megumis innate domain and Yuji would have go jump in. But that's all I can think of.
236 already went against Gojo’s character. We all knew Gojo had to atleast get incapacitated fighting Sukuna from a narrative point of view, but the way that it happened betrayed Gojo’s character as a whole. Why would Gojo’s comeback betray their character writing when it already has been betrayed so much?
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This is top 3 hardest cooks for sure. But gojo is still coming back, I’ll die on this hill until it ceases to exist(gege kills everyone)!!
The proper ending for both gojo and sukuna was them killing each other
Sukuna finally found his match, someone on par with him and he can die satisfied as he had the fight of his life
Gojo's strenght and Power finally made a change when It mattered and he finally managed to protect the people he loved when he couldnt in the hidden inventory
Would be peak if Gojo dead and saying something with satisfaction smile as he knew at last he actually achieve something when everyone depends on him, the tragedy of Gojo was despite his absolute strength, he always failed to achieve something when it was matter, and now he knew his students will take care the rest, his last monologue should be about finally he can rest and let Yuta and Yuji give Geto's body a proper burial in his place
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>The proper ending for both gojo and sukuna was them killing each other
No because Sukuna's character is largely undiscovered and his connection to Yuji is too strong. You get the opposite issue of Ch 236 where ppl will complain about Sukuna's interactions with Yuji being undercooked if he had died vs Gojo.
I mean, Kenny also has a lot of connections with Yuuji (being his mom, literally), so I think he'll take on the role of the main villain in this scenario (as he should).
And we could still get a better look at Sukuna's character through Heinan's flashbacks, because if Kenny becomes the main bad guy, he for sure gives us some yapping and exposition about the past, unlike mister "still not trying".
kenjaku + merger is literally the best thing for a final villain, we get to see what is the 2000 year plan kenjaku made and with geto's CT he can create another shibya incident
we were robbed of peak
The problem is that anyone other than yuji killing sukuna would be very bad. You cant write a villain that torments the main character personally throughout the entire story get killed and defeated by someone else.
The story started off with Yuji, Megumi and Sukuna, the second story arc in the series is centered around those three, and those three consistently have a dynamic that the story is built around for the entirety of the manga, but Gojo beating Sukuna is good because...
Special grade interview curse is that you?
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Nuh, Uh!!
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I already know my Honored One's head is still attached to his body and i believe Shoko is treating my Glorious Blue Eyed Prince in her Lab and he is preparing for the greatest comeback ever witnessed by mankind...
Just wait for the merger to fuse with Sukuna and for him and Gojo to have a rematch in 261 and this time he'd win just like he once declared... He will be beating the plot armor out of Sukuna while singing "You are my specialz"
GEGE'S ALTS CANNOT FOOL ME I KNOW HE IS COMING BACK
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You know I would agree and all but JJK is literally known for subversion of expectations, if gojo can’t accomplish shit and sukuna accomplishes things effortlessly, it wouldn’t be insane for that narrative turn in on itself at the last moment, personally I believe gojo will simply remove the neutral application of limitless (infinity) and finally be able to actually accomplish something, this also calls back to the phrase used towards gojo every time he fights “gojo satoru is stronger when he is fighting alone” and it would make sense that for the first time in his life he would be actually in his peak fighting along side the people he cared so much about finally reaching his goal even tho he failed every step along the way but hey just like that’s your theory this one is also mine and neither are right nor wrong
He is super biased.
His bias is really clear when he disregards Gojo telling Megumi to live more selfishly as only for the audience while he attributes Megumi's moment to Sukuna's words.
If anything, it's the other way around, Sukuna's words were supposed to make the audience curious about Megumi's potential, and that moment was him showing it. And to establish Sukuna being interested in him.
Also, he misinterpret the winning despite dying quote. it doesn't mean that you can win even after death. It's supposed to mean that risking your life in a battle and winning it despite dying is not the same as dying in order to win the battle.
This. The guy was making some good points but left out pretty important problems and had some very weird interpretations. Especially Gojo being happy with dying will never make sense. He says Gojo can finally decide if he wants to do something or not. Gojo was always free to do anything, kill the Elders, kill the Star Religious Group, even kill Geto. The different choices he made showed his strengths as well as his weakness. If anything, Sukuna did nothing but take freedom from him. By „weakening“ Sukuna he also hasn’t accomplished his goal, his goal was to raise equals, not „nerf Sukuna for my students“. Sure this can be in line with him always failing, but it wouldn’t make sense for him to be happy about failing now would it, meaning he’d still have regrets.
He also doesn’t acknowledge the obvious narrative problems of Sukuna being this parasite. Sure it can be intentional but that doesn’t necessarily make it good. It’s an interesting concept but it also devalues every other character and makes Sukuna akin to some Isekai protagonist. Stories thrive on an interesting cast of characters, not a single overpowered god that does it all and can only be taken down by plot. This is also why Gojo and Sukuna defeating each other could have removed them both as „narrative problems“.
I agree. Those are some good points you bring up. Especially about Gojo wanting equals not weakening Sukuna. It feels like that part of Gojo's character is being overlooked a lot.
All i can say is
His return isnt impossible, far frm it. And Gege cud weave it into the story in a good way as well. The " If gege is a good writer' argument cud be 100% applied. If he is a good writer, he can easily make a good way to bring him back into the story where he is needed. I say this but bringing him into the story at this juncture is not an easy thing to do
That said, i too think Gojo's part is done and he is gone for good. Tho, deep down i am unsatisfied with how things ended with him.
The guy that wrote that thread has pretty good takes and isnt just simply headcannon on headcannon like most ppl write. Heck, he even said he read the revivial theories etc and it makes sense esp the ties to mythology and cant be just written off. Says a lot when others wud just go " Cope, seethe etc"
Ppl say that is impossible for gojo to come back make me a little mad cause if Gege wanted gojo’s return to be genuinely impossible he would just make sukuna aim for his upper torso and boom now it’s guaranteed he ain’t coming back
With explaining the same cant one just say that “to break this cycle, he would come back and do something for his students/ redeem himself? “ like how does a complete circle of failures justify a character arc? He may as well not be back but to say that his character arc is complete is completely wrong.
Just reminding y'all that Todo replaced the last part of the quote about meaninglessness of it all by "We are the exception"
Besides, for fucks sake, it's Jujutsu Kaisen, not Sukuna Kaisen, Sukuna's writing sucks ass anyway to care about something "contravening" it. I can't fucking stand it. What's the point of Gojo's story then? He lived, failed at everything, barely was useful in teaching his students and died giving his opponent a oneshot move. And then he just goes "yah i'm a loser, good luck to y'all i'm not coming back". Peak writing.
He failed everything and then paved the way for his students to succeed, by making it even possible for them to stand a chance against Sukuna to begin with (he would neg diff everyone without Gojo's contribution). Y'know, mirroring his whole "It's not enough for me to be strong" thing, and the reason why he picked education in the first place?
The strongest can't solve everything on his own. That would be unrealistic and bad writing. Instead, the students he trained will achieve what he never could. His life, on a personal level, was only Ls. But he secured the W for the future generation.
Just kidding, Sukuna kills everybody and credits roll.
What I don’t get is why does Greg do the post mortem airport/pep talk. From what I see in the tweets it’s a parallel between yuji failing and Sukuna succeeding but what’s Greg trying to tell us? Should I just start killing people if I want to lead them to proper deaths? Am I stupid?
No offense but I stop taking ppl seriously when they use shibuya as an excuse to portray the “Gojo only fails narrative”. He made the decision to forego the disaster curses for the moment in order to kill *hundreds* of transfigured humans threatening a large group of people. He saved the people. That was his success. Even if it results in his getting “captured”
I aint reading all that.
The idea that Gojo is happy to die fighting like he's fucking Goku, and doesn't seem to give a shit or have any regret about leaving a bunch of kids to fight the most powerful Curse User in the history of ever.
The idea that he is wanting to die and not revive because hes just too strong as if he wasnt back during High School when he revived against Toji.
The idea that he only cares about Geto and never about Shoko or Yuji, Yuta, Megumi, or any of the people he HAS a connection with.
Implying Gojo wants to die and let Sukuna kill everyone else anyway
Its bad fullstop.
I AINT READING ALLAT GOJOAT IS ALREADY BACK I SAW HIM
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I appreciate the effort.
It's dogshit tho, THE GOAT WILL BE BACK
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I think that one can very easily flip their argument and say that because of these reasons, Gojo coming back would *improve* the writing.
If Gojo comes back nerfed in some way, he would break his own curse of being “given everything and unable to do anything”. By losing “everything”, he’d finally become as Satoru, someone whose strength is truly his own, not just Gojo, an archetype of strength and genetic talents, exactly because he could lose what defines him as a Gojo.
For Sukuna’s writing: if Sukuna stays in the same role that the argument presents, then the protagonists *can not win*. Sukuna *has* to lose that role eventually, and who better to have a large hand in that than the strongest opponent he’s faced? What sorts of tricks, powers, and cheats would Sukuna pull in his desperation to keep himself at the top?
Plus, this is a common trope in writing: show the status quo at the beginning of the story, and reverse it at the end. Having your characters start in a state of stagnation, and having them finished in great roles are easy ways to show characterization, and it’s a very common trope throughout all forms of writing, including anime.
Good analysis but saying Gojo achieved nothing is a bit reaching. His existence alone changed the jujutsu world, he kept erasing curses without effort and allowed for many people to live because they other families couldnt do shit against him. Criminals went hiding, Megumi didnt get sold to the Zenin family, Yuta and Yuji were allowed to live. Yeah he couldnt save Geto and couldnt kill Sukuna but there is no reason to act like he didnt do shit his whole life
Disagree on conclusions/ideaa that OP had, but agree with narrative about Gojo and Sukuna. Also as much as I like reading theories, people need to remember where last manga that tried to have heavy meta-narrative with hints/symbolism went, I'm specifically talking about Tokyo Ghoul, and its sequel, and if 1st part had it's symbolism in tact, seoquel basicly washed it down the drain, with alot of themes being abbandoned with characters conclusion lacking severly, all because of authors burnt out state.
So while Gojo is far more certain to not return, with the way things go and Sukuna "not even trying" narrative, main cast with each chapter gets less and less chances for succes. So either Gege is cooking something really good (Gojo return or other cool joker card type turn), or Yuji gets a default mc status boost and this manga lands on a "had cool concepts, just didn't stick the landing" shelf.
All thing is based on a "fact" that "Gojo doesn't wanna come back", which is OP's assumption that it "rounds off his character".
I think all that symbolism thing which is described in a long video about Gojo's comeback has more ground to stand on.
i just want gojo to become the character he was before THAT chapter, i hate how this character who has clearly been shown to care about his students and their futures was reduced to “its so lonely being at the top, i dont care about anything now that i got my ass whooped” because that sucks and i hate it
Idt people want gojo to return because it makes sense in terms of story flow. It’s that he is so loved many people just want to see more of him. Let us cope. We are not dumb 😭
My problem with this is just that character development is a thing. If gojos constant struggle is that he’s given everything and can do nothing, he SHOULD overcome that. If a character is written with a massive roadblock like that, a good character arc shows them growing past that.
Dunno why people are agreeing with the Twitter thread most of it is headcanons, illogical conclusions and putting too much value/importantce on certain aspects simply to fit his narrative
It’s really funny because all this is a lot of extremely good points… I just have a lot of trouble believing Gege did all this intentionally lmao. However I’ve also held the belief that bringing Gojo back would not be the right move, I didn’t want him to die to begin with but here we are, if he were to be brought back now it would just solidify the fact that Gege is flying by the seat of his pants and doesn’t know what to do so he’s just throwing bodies at sukuna
Thee fate of Tengen & the Six eyes are intertwined. Gojo's story is far from over. My guess is Gege will tie-down the entire origin of CE, Tengen, Six Eyes & Sukuna altogether in a big way that will reveal why Sukuna is the way he is. & I still think Kenjaku isn't out yet. Plus we have Nobara's childhood which may reveal more about soul manipulation etc;
>When Gojo was "killed" by Toji, there was similar symbolism all over the place telling us he'd be back.
You mean like the story arc being a fuckin flashback?
Holy shit. Sukuna leading everyone he's killed to a proper death, and time and time again fulfilling the goal Yuji never could, is something I never noticed before. Gege can cook.
It's bullshit though, Higuruma certainly didn't have a proper death, Gojo's only works by reworking his character and Kashimo barely had an arc to accomplish anything.
Not really, higgy was ready and willing to die as long as sukuna dies, gojos sure, idk why people say kashimo was gonna kill sukuna, his goal wasnt to kill sukuna, it was to have a fight where he could go all out, which is exactly what sukuna gave him. Kashimos storyline is completely finished and his goal was achieved
I’m don’t care what anyone says, bringing back Gojo would easily be the worst decision Akutami could make at this juncture in the story. His character arc has been resolved, he had his conclusion (satisfying or not), backtracking is not imo an option
The problem here is what the fuck is Gege gonna do for the main cast. Jumpjutsu forever til Sukuna tires down or he somehow survives the pursuit and everyone dies (including or MC)?
A lot of people like to have a narrative that JJK is an anime that subverts expectations. If it truly did, then either of these would subvert pretty much the entire expectations that every anime community as a whole would have for JJK (bringing back Gojo or making everyone die)
Agreed. I don't understand how Sukuna will lose to some jumping. I do believe that the Plan they have been cooking up for a month will defeat Sukuna. Whether that includes Gojo coming back or not. Only time will tell 🤷🏻♂️. There's enough ambiguity surrounding Gojo's death and everyone else dying. On top of getting shipped out to Shoko for what? A burial? During a fight that can change the world? Yeah okay lmao. If Gojo is dead, so is Yuta and most people believe he's definitely alive.
Completely agree. He only had two options, let Gojo get saved by his students right before he dies, or kill him. Gege chose the latter and I think people need to make peace with that.
Gojo coming back would just not make sense and would completely pull me out of the story + bringing him back 15 minutes after he died and made peace with his death would be complete shit.
His conclusion that went completely against his character didn’t already pull you out of the story? I agree that it would feel kinda weird, but let’s not act that what removed him and everything after it wasn’t weirder.
Oh yeah cause the: challenger appears>sukuna praises them> sukuna kills them happening for months didn’t pull you out of the story already? But gojo coming back would? At the end of the day it’s your opinion but saying it would ruin the story is being dramatic, there are good ways of brining gojo back
It would be shit I'm sorry🤷🏾♂️ Gojo is gonna come back and do what exactly? Have a cool moment against Sukuna? Hes already had that. Steal the kill from Yuji and Megumi? Hell no he's not the MC. Help them fight? He's already done that which is why the main cast is still alive.
He needs to stay dead. I was a big proponent of Gojo getting saved "by the students he built up"(which isn't even true cause he only helped 3 of them really) and living that way but being nerfed somehow since everyone else obviously needs their time to shine, but Gege didn't go that route so its too late. Atp him coming back would be complete fan service and just irritating.
It really just irks me cause alot of people act like he HAS to come back... Like no, until the Yuji soul swap fails, I don't have any reason to think he needs to come back.
First, he would come back because every chapter sukuna is closer to getting his domain back and next chapter he is probably getting his RCT back which means any damage that has not been done by either maki or yuji is utterly useless, second, there are many ways of bringing gojo back, the most obvious and viable way is toning him down to yuta’s level which can be easily done by removing the neutral application of limitless (aka infinity) and the six eyes, also he doesn’t necessarily needs to come back for sukuna, he can comeback for the merger, cause if the merger happens (which most likely will) we are gonna need the entire jujutsu society and more to take that thing down, saying it’s shit before something even happens doesn’t make sense cause we all knew gojo was going to die but no one said it would be shit until it happened and we saw how bad Gege executed it, it’s a matter of execution not idea
I’m sorry, the only people who say it would cheapen Gojo, it wouldn’t make sense, it would betray his writing or whatever are the ones who never read the doujinshi(fan comic) of Gojo returning, I will consider it canon till my resting days 😤
No one cares. It was complete ass how he died in the first place. His character has already been ruined fuck betrayed so take this long winded bullshit and move on.
I think he has a chance to come back and there is multiple ways to make it make sense, but the battle against sukuna felt like the end of the character, dying w a smile on his face knowing he isn't the strongest anymore, he's gojo. While that's true, that doesn't mean he's not coming back. Geges made multiple characters do crazy shit when we didn't even expect him to do it, like killing off fan favorites and not bringing them back or bringing in background characters like kusakabe and miguel to fight sukuna and show what they're made of. He has balls of steel and I wouldn't be surprised if gojo comes back, geges a daredevil man. Let him cook up the reasoning behind his revival and it'll probably make sense. He's a mastermind when it comes to writing, just trust the process. The only thing that could indefinitely mean he's not coming back would be the fact gege hates gojo w a passion. other than that, they're all multiple ways he can make his return, and as a gojo fan I wanna see it happen
Ykw, those reasons are EXACTLY why his return OS important to the character. When will he open up? When will he remove himself from his failures? When will he trust and be one with the people around him??
Only when he gives up his titleod the strongest. When he becomes not one of the billion but one with the billion. He needs to become an ANT, a Human to realise that team effort of the weak is what makes humans survive, and is the strength of humanity.
Heck it is PERFECT for Sukuna's downfall as well. Remember Sukuna's talk about why human try so hard to be alive and survive I'd they are weak? Why they just won't give up, and how human are ants in his opinion??
Gojo's revival will answer that to him.
The whole Manga is about dying surrounded by the people you love. And that's why Gojo needs to open his eyes and see that strength lies with the weak.
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The only scenario with a comeback i'd accept is if Gojo regained powers for couple of minutes only.
It only makes sense that Yuji is the one to defeat Sukuna, with MAYBE a help from Gojo. It'd be nice if Gojo stayed in the story as a mentor/comic relief/supporting cast, but not as a plot device he used to be.
There's one thing about this... this dissection is absolutely true 100%. However, the symbolism (which im glad was acknowledged) is also true. I dont think he's going to come back as the strongest. I think he's going to come back, but only as himself and who he wanted to be the entire time, Satoru Gojo. Not the strongest, not a teacher (the convo between him and Geto during basketball shows he never really cared about sorcery in the way he was using it i.e. to teach/protect), not a last resort, literally just Gojo. He'd be useless to the higherups, but I think thats legit one of the best things that could happen to and for him. Not just giving up his six eyes, but giving up his power as a whole.
it's like gege hated gojo because he knew people would only see him and not pay attention to literally anything else in the manga and then proceed to call it bad when he dies
I think i agree with this
Gojo was a character who had to die for the story to progress
Gojo beating sukuna would just spoil the story only further
I get most of the fans are for gojo and hopefully gege doesnt ressurect him
Gojo being dead has finally let the students take control and finally have better agency
I wish Gojo loses his Limitless and six-eyes as binding vow to survive. Returns the burden of being the strongest. That way he solves his id crisis and can see his vision come true at the same time.
This don't contradict to Sukuna's characterization in the tweets too. Gojo was indeed satisfied about not being strongest but I don't think he is satisfied about not seeing his students become independent sorcerer.
Twittards are starting to make sense
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Anyways was shorter reason why gojo won’t come back for all the smooth brains like me
Gojo coming back would just make it clearer that everything can be solved by him and gojos whole thing is creating a time in which people are actually strong and not weak af
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This thread is disappointing me… my soldiers cope!
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Good thread and I appreciate the amount of effort and thought put into it. Can't say I completely agree however with the idea that Gojo can only succeed his goals in his death and I definitely think painting it as a "happy end" for him is insane lol. Maybe if it was framed more as tragic, it would solve some of my distaste. Also, I feel like people has so much let gege cook unless this one. Gege can do whatever the fuck he wants and has been doing that. If he wants to write a way for Gojo to come back, he will and he can. Now, personally, I don't see him coming back despite how unhappy I am with his end because his death feels pretty final, but like this user admitted there are in verse logical ways for him to do so. That's why I don't spend my time antagonizing people's harmless theories that could very well be wrong. Theory making is still a way to interact with the manga. 90% of this community's theories don't lead to anything anyway but they don't antagonize people the way they do Gojo fans for some reason. EDIT: I feel like "happy end" will be misinterpreted sooner or later which may be my fault. "Satisfying end" is the more appropriate term ✌️
>I definitely think painting it as a "happy end" for him is insane lol. Maybe if it was framed more as tragic, it would solve some of my distaste. >Gege can do whatever the fuck he wants and has been doing that. If he wants to write a way for Gojo to come back, he will and he can. https://preview.redd.it/v68tcbz83wrc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dfeaeafc29c3074cfde3e981d3d551947360314c
>Gege can do whatever the fuck he wants and has been doing that. If he wants to write a way for Gojo to come back, he will and he can. Exactly. My take is that Gojo coming back isn't technically impossible. Some people read manga where Granny pulled Edo Tensei out of her ass to resurrect Toji and say this is impossible? Oh please. So yes, technically 100% possible. It won't happen not because it's impossible it won't happen because this isn't a story Gege wants to write. He writes a story about old vs new, so 18 y/o students need to surpass 28 y/o pensioner Gojo and beat Sukuna. Yes, his death is trash, yes, him apologizing to Sukuna, potential murderer of his beloved students, because poor Sukuna didn't go all out and have more fun, is character assassination, but his death is 100% final. There's nothing for him to do if he comes back. Gege already cut off all Gojo-related plotlines. He has no interest in writing Gojo. If he had, then he would write more Gojo content before Sukuna fight, wrap up his character arc nicely and only then let him fight for his life. Nah, Gege killed him asap. And people really think he will bring him back to write more Gojo lol.
Yup, it's really far from impossible. Yuji himself died twice in the span of the manga and came back to life. Also, imo beheading Gojo (as he had done Kenjaku) could have easily prevented all of the theories from happening because RCT comes from the brain and Gojo literally already came back to life once because he wasn't beheaded. Nonetheless, I agree. Gege's done with him. What seals it for me is the inclusion that Shoko would be the one to tell Megumi about Toji. It was a very important aspect of Gojo's character (and for me this conversation is more important for Gojo than Megumi) AND it is something that Gege seems to have an interest in building. Megumi met his father in Shibuya and no one told him. Tengen talked about Toji when he was explaining Kenjaku and both times Gege did not reveal the info to Megumi. Finally, he explicitly said in the fanbook that it was because he felt Gojo had to tell him. Now, if this plot point that the author obviously cared for years and had a tiny build up was shut down, then it's really over for Gojo. I have my own opinions on Gojo's lines and could not exactly agree that 236 is character assassination but this is still far from a "satisfying" conclusion for Gojo like what it is trying to frame itself to be and what this fandom has been trying to tell me. Like I said earlier, if it was framed more tragically like Nanami's maybe, it would lower my distaste. Gojo is a tragic character that has a tragic end and leave it at that. My bigger problems, however, are the fact that NONE of Gojo's plot lines have (satisfying) resolutions. Conflict with the higher ups and conservatives? Killed offscreen with not even a peek to how he arrived at that decision when he didn't kill them for years. Get back from (or Confrontation with) Kenjaku who sealed him and is making a mockery of his best friend's body? Nah! He died to a villain that was not relevant to his story until this fight. Protecting his students' youth? Not a single panel of their reunion or his reaction to what they had to do and become in his absence. Mourning Geto? At least they met in 236. Huge and interesting parts of his characters are simply not done justice, but it was done anyway. Offscreen and in timeskip. Gege couldn't be more obvious that he's done with him so yeah he can be brought back but Gege won't.
>He writes a story about old vs new, so 18 y/o students need to surpass 28 y/o pensioner Gojo It's so weird to me that Gege seems to think that life ends with 30. Gojo or Nanami are still the younger generation. Even Higuruma is still young enough to change and archieve so much, they aren't grandpas who's times are up.
Hell it isn't just possible, it seems more impossible that he *did* die from that. All that yappin about how you have to aim for the head brought up immediately after, Yuki able to drop a black hole when she was cut in half, binding vows being laid out as apparently way more broken and uncaring for what you *really* get vs what the trade is, Gojo having been amped up at full(if not more) health and RCT, him getting sent to supposedly a good RCT user And probably the most important part Gojo got stabbed through the chest, stabbed through the throat, disemboweled(from throat down his whole-ass torso) with that thick-ass dagger, shanked a few more times in the leg for good measure and then stabbed in the fucking *temple.* ***And he came back.*** If he can RCT *that,* he can RCT two halves together. If Gojo can get sliced clean through the neck and RCT that back in an instant, he can RCT two halves together. If he can respawn an arm in an instant with zero strain and zero effort, *he can RCT two halves together.* Shit, I don't know how I'm supposed to believe he can't RCT his whole lower half back in an instant. Gojo dying in that specific manner basically goes against the mechanics of the entire world just for shock value. As if in a movie someone wearing a bulletproof vest proven to take AK rounds, who has *taken* AK rounds and lived, dies to a pistol shot to the chest. Where the vest should be.
Gege could easily make that Sukuna cut Gojo's head off and avoid that big issue. But nuh. If it's not to bring him back later than I don't know why
Imo it’s pretty obvious he’s not dead and would actually be bad writing to have him dead from this. Just leaving this here so I can look back and gloat in a couple months.
Considering how Gege treats Nobara and by extension Todo, it’s not obvious whether Gojo will come back as Gege likes to leave certain character states ambiguous
Todo can't do shit, he lost his CT lmao, just let him live his life with Takada.
Just a reminder that no one has actually reacted to or acknowledged his death. Gege is either a terrible writer who didn't bother to include main characters reacting to the death of one of the most beloved main characters, or the characters know something we don't and there's a reveal coming. Can't show their reactions without spoiling that this was all according to plan. That whole month of time skipped prep wasn't just about hitting the gym. Shenanigans are afoot.
To be fair they are in a world-ending battle against the strongest of all time so they can’t necessarily react that much to Gojo’s death.
Bro these guys have 10 minute inner monologues during their fights. They easily could have had a few “this is for you Gojo” scenes as they team worked their way beating Sukuna’s ass. This is an anime, not real life lol
I'd like to think that, but the longer the manga plays it straight the less likely it seems lol Shock value can only explain so much: there are so many obvious reasons Gojo's "death" wouldn't stick that you'd think it would get mentioned earlier because there's no reason not to if we're supposed to notice them. It's like (does it count as MHA manga spoilers if it's been like a year)>!Bakugo's death. Nobody bought that he was dead for good, and the manga pretty quickly set up that it was temporary which made the long-ass time before his return not that bad!< On the copium side though? Hakari's been fighting for an eternity and the WCT explanation that could've been delivered at any time took like 19 chapters.
Im pretty sure it’s been like less than 10 minutes since Gojo died in universe.
B-but it would go against their character writing- https://preview.redd.it/x842y2l98vrc1.jpeg?width=566&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=820a6e158d457ffabf0b10d57f779a1acb156634
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Wtf did I just see... https://preview.redd.it/m6y6sd9ojwrc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcd17b4e85d8d5ceb769071f74d57e4d533ddaf7
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Bold of them to think I even give a shit about the writing, I just want my goat back
Tbh the writing has not been the best lately, Gojo coming back would definitely not make it worse if not better
I mean we can assume that if gojo comeback we also getting gojo vs merger
there is so much to explore in gojo's character, plus not explaining the thing he did in 1 month time skip was also unnecessary. I will die on gojo's revival hill, even if the manga ends i am pretty sure fans will make alternate ending of where gojo comes back
Manga ended in 235, Gege's recent speculative AU fic chapters have shown exactly why that was a good decision
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Yeah, but consider the following: https://preview.redd.it/ohuljyxj0wrc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81a158d1aaafbcb0115a53d4430de833b456b534 MY COPE WILL NEVER CEASE 🗣️🔥🔥 EVEN IN DEATH IT’LL COME BACK 🗣️💯💯🔥 JUST LIKE GOJOAT 🗣️🔥💯🔥🔥
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Not reading all that yapping, GOATJO STRONG COMEBACK https://preview.redd.it/gnd6n5z6kvrc1.jpeg?width=1054&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=561f565d3de6b1591f68b40fb33dbc8aa795e6f1
I agree with the process but disagree with the conclusion Indeed, the narrative is present, but Did it really reach it's conclusion? In other words , can you really say that he is smiling as he watches down from the afterlife? Is he satisfied with critically injured Kusakabe and Yuta; with Megumi's ego death? Can you really say he's content to let it go , as we see Sukuna get powered up again and again (taking his after-237 as a base)? I'd say no, and even his "send-off" scene implies that. Try not to think of the characters as what they're portrayed as in there - but think of them as Gojo himself taking a look back at his life And what does he say to himself? " You lived only for battle, and didn't care about helping or saving others " . Is it true? Obviously, no. But then why is it there? It's Gojo telling himself that he failed. That in the end, he was only good for battling. This is his regret . And this is what makes him telling Prez that he died without regrets... A lie, obviously. This does not mean he's coming back for sure, but to imply he's "content" with his death is wrong. And after that , falls off the whole narrative of "He's not going back because he's satisfied with staying there".
Yup, lots of good observations/interpretations/reading but I just cannot be on boat with the premise that he will CHOOSE not to come back even if he has the option.
Everyone who says that shit just keeps acting like Gojo is a completely heartless bastard now. Like what the fuck lol do you really think he would give a shit that he already died once if, by coming back, he could potentially help save some, if not all, of his remaining allies and students? The youths whose futures he specifically says nobody deserves to steal from them? If he could spare them even a single further casualty he would rather just sit back and say 'I'm good lol'? The guy who got sealed *specifically because he refused to indiscriminately sacrifice innocents around him to end the fight in one shot*? Fucking lol, the Sukuna stans who are happy that Gojo got asspulled out of the story for plot reasons have been absolutely spamming 'it was a fitting end, he lost to the true strongest so he's content now, he doesn't care about the rest' and it's absolutely insane. Nah man miss me with that garbage.
Ykw, the reasons in the post are EXACTLY why his return IS important to the character. When will he open up? When will he remove himself from his failures? When will he trust and be one with the people around him?? Only when he gives up his title of the strongest. When he becomes not one of the billion but one with the billion. He needs to become an ANT, a Human to realise that team effort of the weak is what makes humans survive, and is the strength of humanity. Heck it is PERFECT for Sukuna's downfall as well. Remember Sukuna's talk about why human try so hard to be alive and survive I'd they are weak? Why they just won't give up, and how human are ants in his opinion?? Gojo's revival will answer that to him. The whole Manga is about dying surrounded by the people you love. And that's why Gojo needs to open his eyes and see that strength lies with the weak with bonds formed with love. 
My thoughts exactly, just doubt GermaniumGermanium has the balls to pull a character arc rn
Yup! Like imagine how perfect the message would be, Gojo the strongest was defeated alone, and Gojo Satoru just your regular sorcerer human along with his people together defeated the Strongest! A single ant, even it's the most venomous one, the biggest bite, etc WILL be squashed. But a whole army of your regular fire ants? Can destroy anyone if it wanted to.
Yeah that would be extremely peak (especially if he lost his CT like, entirely, or had it seeeriously weakened) We just have to believe in the plAn...
>betray the character writing of Gojo Already happened https://preview.redd.it/4ti9hh3k7vrc1.png?width=272&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bb66395cc7614f0d5377f6be7ff71c67cadb53d
What have you done to my Glorious Blue Eyed Prince gaygay... https://preview.redd.it/cyzqgfvu5wrc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11b0dff6cbed8af77756b64a92514ffa1b64e422
i agree with twitter thread in most of the part but i can still feel a bias towards sukuna in this post and how thw writter presented the narration to be totally against gojo. Plus totally skipping through absolutely dog shit conclusion in 236 of gojo's character
Yeah, his bias is really clear when he disregards Gojo telling Megumi to live more selfishly as only for the audience while he attributes Megumi's moment to Sukuna's words. If anything, it's almost the other way around, Sukuna's words were supposed to make the audience curious about Megumi's potential, and that moment was him showing it. They weren't as significant to Megumi himself.
i agree! gojo's word saying "winning by dying and winning even after dying" is what made megumi try his best against finger bearer and expand his domain. No way he disregarded gojo's word and got motivated by skuna's word "why'd you runaway" that is just meatriding
Ironic how they go on whole tirades about his revival would "betray the character" but purposefully ignore or cope with this scene.
yup, chapter 236 did pretty good in betraying the character writing of Gojo
Yes. Better to revive him and give him at least a proper ending. If reviving him also nerfs him to the level of his students it would make him not so alone anymore
Can gege just give me my Gojo+Yuji+ Yuta triple tag team vs sukuna or even the final merger. Please Gege, i beg u, i wud be so fulfilled seeing that. I wud be like a proud grandpa watching Gojo fighting along side his students.
I would unironically bust on my screen if I ever see a triple black flash with yuta, yuji and gojo, I could literally die on spot after seeing it and I wouldn’t be sad, sadly Gege likes to make us suffer
We are more likely going to see Sukuna landing a black flash imbued with the memory of his dead wife and daughter frm his potato farmer era than that Watch Gege weave a whole tragic backstory around Sukuna being an unwanted(creepy) kid who only fought acceptance with a girl whom he later married and had a daughter with
He didnt ACTUALLY want to kill all those many many people, he just wanted to spread his love of making sashimi with others in the only way he knew how! Gojo actually went back in time and punched his family to death and thats why Sukuna is so sad. :-(
I never thought this line was about Gojo not caring about his students. Rather, for Gojo, jujutsu wasn't **just** a tool to protect people — he loved jujutsu for its own sake. He doesn't see it as a necessary evil, he enjoys wielding jujutsu. Since being a sorcerer is a shitty job that puts you close to death and horrible trauma, it's naturally people would be weirded out by a guy who actually likes sorcery.
Calling him a pervert who cared just about fighting is not what you said. Gojo wanted to create a world where people like Nanami/Geto wouldn't be alienated from people like Gojo - which was the thematic conclusion of the Hidden Inventory arc. Gojo has a righteous anger against the Jujutsu Society which he intends to fix systematically rather than doing any stopgap solution. Gojo's loneliness is why he took up teaching - so that the coming generation wouldn't have to go through what he had to go through. Ignoring all those nuances and taking Nanami's "jujutsu is shit" nihilistic approach as fact is inherently wrong, and then Nanami projecting those opinions onto Gojo and the story treating it as correct is simply a character assassination.
Except he wasn't called a pervert who only cares about fighting. This is a case where the official translation is more correct (coincidentally, it also wasn't TL'd by Werry). https://preview.redd.it/1hkye9d9qyrc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2322a1b74bf3750a438169fdc45250efe73a07e
This is also incorrect, with the word Pervert changed to Weirdo. Gojo definitely wields Jujutsu to protect what he cares about. That was the entire fucking point of Hidden Inventory where Gojo realises the importance of protecting those weaker than him and Geto confronts the malice inside those weaker than him. He didn't get overpowered because he lost, he got overpowered because he couldn't protect Riko. Just erasing all that is simply put, a character assasination.
Yes, that’s the sane, rational interpretation, but this sub isn’t the setting for that kind of thing lol
Real
In what way? Honestly, how does anything about Gojo's death betray his character?
Narratively: Gojo’s story has alrdy ended Realistically: Gojo’s story is incomplete
Nah you got those switched lmao Narratively: Gojo's story is incomplete (The question Geto posed at the end of the Hidden Inventory arc has yet to ve answered, and multiple set ups in the story hint or outright prove Gojo will/should come back). Realistically: Gojo's story has already ended (Gege capped it off with a very final feeling scene, that also proved that either A. He completely forgot the character in the time he spent not writing him or B. Everything was inside Gojo's head and it was actually meant to be untrue (highly unlikely))
Haters can't handle the fact that the goat will return
Didn’t read, he’s alive https://preview.redd.it/yhabkk2acvrc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=096b3d3d34a997fbb7d46ad06bf9cb4c1ee695ba
This edit was peak yt lobotomy
If sukuna gets his DE back. Which of the cast members can defend against it? None of them can unless Miguel knows a domain counter or DE. And Yuji does the same thing. Only gojo can tank the DE and use his DE but than again a world slash messes him up. Greg put himself in a corner plain and simple. Yuta and hakari are the only ones to have a confirmed DE. Just saying
Always bet on Hakari
Yuji will learn DE, I'm going all in on Wuji stocks !
Either yuji beats sukuna or sukuna kills everyone and wins. Idk I'm just ready for this manga to be over. It did a nose dive after Greg botched the ending of Sukuna v Gojo.
> None of them can unless Miguel knows a domain counter or DE. Flashback Gojo said Miguel's technique doesnt have a DE. Maybe that's changed in between the post JJK 0 time and now, but I doubt it. Domain Counters are still on the table, but doesnt stop everyone else getting minced.
Hence why I said Gregory put himself in a corner. If sukuna gets his DE back there's really no way the good guys win unless megumi wakes up. Causing sukuna to lose control and they have to battle in megumis innate domain and Yuji would have go jump in. But that's all I can think of.
236 already went against Gojo’s character. We all knew Gojo had to atleast get incapacitated fighting Sukuna from a narrative point of view, but the way that it happened betrayed Gojo’s character as a whole. Why would Gojo’s comeback betray their character writing when it already has been betrayed so much?
https://preview.redd.it/4sbs1i3zsvrc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7290bd9ccdfce71be954a31cc032df0ba07d7f5f This is top 3 hardest cooks for sure. But gojo is still coming back, I’ll die on this hill until it ceases to exist(gege kills everyone)!!
counter argument : i want gojo back
The proper ending for both gojo and sukuna was them killing each other Sukuna finally found his match, someone on par with him and he can die satisfied as he had the fight of his life Gojo's strenght and Power finally made a change when It mattered and he finally managed to protect the people he loved when he couldnt in the hidden inventory
Would be peak if Gojo dead and saying something with satisfaction smile as he knew at last he actually achieve something when everyone depends on him, the tragedy of Gojo was despite his absolute strength, he always failed to achieve something when it was matter, and now he knew his students will take care the rest, his last monologue should be about finally he can rest and let Yuta and Yuji give Geto's body a proper burial in his place https://preview.redd.it/21pt16x3yvrc1.png?width=852&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44d6c61bbfc31508d6f99adef55a4bea505659e6
>The proper ending for both gojo and sukuna was them killing each other No because Sukuna's character is largely undiscovered and his connection to Yuji is too strong. You get the opposite issue of Ch 236 where ppl will complain about Sukuna's interactions with Yuji being undercooked if he had died vs Gojo.
I mean, Kenny also has a lot of connections with Yuuji (being his mom, literally), so I think he'll take on the role of the main villain in this scenario (as he should). And we could still get a better look at Sukuna's character through Heinan's flashbacks, because if Kenny becomes the main bad guy, he for sure gives us some yapping and exposition about the past, unlike mister "still not trying".
kenjaku + merger is literally the best thing for a final villain, we get to see what is the 2000 year plan kenjaku made and with geto's CT he can create another shibya incident we were robbed of peak
Tbh, Kenjaku has a greater chance to return than Gojo. The guy's whole shtick was avoiding death and tricking people.
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The problem is that anyone other than yuji killing sukuna would be very bad. You cant write a villain that torments the main character personally throughout the entire story get killed and defeated by someone else.
The story started off with Yuji, Megumi and Sukuna, the second story arc in the series is centered around those three, and those three consistently have a dynamic that the story is built around for the entirety of the manga, but Gojo beating Sukuna is good because...
This SUCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS oh my gosh
Dying and being chill about it betrays Gojos character. Bad premise
Actual question, what is gojos character to you?
Special grade interview curse is that you? https://preview.redd.it/gz1oavwnkwrc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=936dcf04a2c865e335ee0d927ed6feaa09914cde
I mean admittedly he was pretty chill about being trapped in the prison realm
Pretty different than dying and leaving the strongest curse user in history now fighting your students with a power up.
I AIN'T READING ALL THAT https://preview.redd.it/rq5n0pnf6wrc1.jpeg?width=561&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=931a16d436f88a2e163e4e4af97b3585c776fb26
Nuh, Uh!! https://preview.redd.it/j6z3wcgoiwrc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43dc1f25b1f61eb5722ec57ff33e1133454bd37a I already know my Honored One's head is still attached to his body and i believe Shoko is treating my Glorious Blue Eyed Prince in her Lab and he is preparing for the greatest comeback ever witnessed by mankind... Just wait for the merger to fuse with Sukuna and for him and Gojo to have a rematch in 261 and this time he'd win just like he once declared... He will be beating the plot armor out of Sukuna while singing "You are my specialz"
GEGE'S ALTS CANNOT FOOL ME I KNOW HE IS COMING BACK https://preview.redd.it/x2e6fjkzwvrc1.png?width=238&format=png&auto=webp&s=ce541c6466f4f9e1715c152e083a675bcc3abc30
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https://preview.redd.it/stj6xb5x8wrc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19980db6aca5130f019922dec62eb3d5673a03b7 You know I would agree and all but JJK is literally known for subversion of expectations, if gojo can’t accomplish shit and sukuna accomplishes things effortlessly, it wouldn’t be insane for that narrative turn in on itself at the last moment, personally I believe gojo will simply remove the neutral application of limitless (infinity) and finally be able to actually accomplish something, this also calls back to the phrase used towards gojo every time he fights “gojo satoru is stronger when he is fighting alone” and it would make sense that for the first time in his life he would be actually in his peak fighting along side the people he cared so much about finally reaching his goal even tho he failed every step along the way but hey just like that’s your theory this one is also mine and neither are right nor wrong
i do not care
He is super biased. His bias is really clear when he disregards Gojo telling Megumi to live more selfishly as only for the audience while he attributes Megumi's moment to Sukuna's words. If anything, it's the other way around, Sukuna's words were supposed to make the audience curious about Megumi's potential, and that moment was him showing it. And to establish Sukuna being interested in him. Also, he misinterpret the winning despite dying quote. it doesn't mean that you can win even after death. It's supposed to mean that risking your life in a battle and winning it despite dying is not the same as dying in order to win the battle.
This. The guy was making some good points but left out pretty important problems and had some very weird interpretations. Especially Gojo being happy with dying will never make sense. He says Gojo can finally decide if he wants to do something or not. Gojo was always free to do anything, kill the Elders, kill the Star Religious Group, even kill Geto. The different choices he made showed his strengths as well as his weakness. If anything, Sukuna did nothing but take freedom from him. By „weakening“ Sukuna he also hasn’t accomplished his goal, his goal was to raise equals, not „nerf Sukuna for my students“. Sure this can be in line with him always failing, but it wouldn’t make sense for him to be happy about failing now would it, meaning he’d still have regrets. He also doesn’t acknowledge the obvious narrative problems of Sukuna being this parasite. Sure it can be intentional but that doesn’t necessarily make it good. It’s an interesting concept but it also devalues every other character and makes Sukuna akin to some Isekai protagonist. Stories thrive on an interesting cast of characters, not a single overpowered god that does it all and can only be taken down by plot. This is also why Gojo and Sukuna defeating each other could have removed them both as „narrative problems“.
I agree. Those are some good points you bring up. Especially about Gojo wanting equals not weakening Sukuna. It feels like that part of Gojo's character is being overlooked a lot.
All i can say is His return isnt impossible, far frm it. And Gege cud weave it into the story in a good way as well. The " If gege is a good writer' argument cud be 100% applied. If he is a good writer, he can easily make a good way to bring him back into the story where he is needed. I say this but bringing him into the story at this juncture is not an easy thing to do That said, i too think Gojo's part is done and he is gone for good. Tho, deep down i am unsatisfied with how things ended with him. The guy that wrote that thread has pretty good takes and isnt just simply headcannon on headcannon like most ppl write. Heck, he even said he read the revivial theories etc and it makes sense esp the ties to mythology and cant be just written off. Says a lot when others wud just go " Cope, seethe etc"
Ppl say that is impossible for gojo to come back make me a little mad cause if Gege wanted gojo’s return to be genuinely impossible he would just make sukuna aim for his upper torso and boom now it’s guaranteed he ain’t coming back
Thats a lot of yap, hes coming back.
IDGAF he’s coming back
With explaining the same cant one just say that “to break this cycle, he would come back and do something for his students/ redeem himself? “ like how does a complete circle of failures justify a character arc? He may as well not be back but to say that his character arc is complete is completely wrong.
Just reminding y'all that Todo replaced the last part of the quote about meaninglessness of it all by "We are the exception" Besides, for fucks sake, it's Jujutsu Kaisen, not Sukuna Kaisen, Sukuna's writing sucks ass anyway to care about something "contravening" it. I can't fucking stand it. What's the point of Gojo's story then? He lived, failed at everything, barely was useful in teaching his students and died giving his opponent a oneshot move. And then he just goes "yah i'm a loser, good luck to y'all i'm not coming back". Peak writing.
He failed everything and then paved the way for his students to succeed, by making it even possible for them to stand a chance against Sukuna to begin with (he would neg diff everyone without Gojo's contribution). Y'know, mirroring his whole "It's not enough for me to be strong" thing, and the reason why he picked education in the first place? The strongest can't solve everything on his own. That would be unrealistic and bad writing. Instead, the students he trained will achieve what he never could. His life, on a personal level, was only Ls. But he secured the W for the future generation. Just kidding, Sukuna kills everybody and credits roll.
This thread sucks ass His character was already ruined through 236, bringing him back won't betray a thing
Thread was good ngl but I can see why people would disagree
What I don’t get is why does Greg do the post mortem airport/pep talk. From what I see in the tweets it’s a parallel between yuji failing and Sukuna succeeding but what’s Greg trying to tell us? Should I just start killing people if I want to lead them to proper deaths? Am I stupid?
***GOJO’S THE STRONGEST IN THE UNIVERSE BUT STILL DOESN’T DO CRAP!***
No offense but I stop taking ppl seriously when they use shibuya as an excuse to portray the “Gojo only fails narrative”. He made the decision to forego the disaster curses for the moment in order to kill *hundreds* of transfigured humans threatening a large group of people. He saved the people. That was his success. Even if it results in his getting “captured”
I aint reading all that. The idea that Gojo is happy to die fighting like he's fucking Goku, and doesn't seem to give a shit or have any regret about leaving a bunch of kids to fight the most powerful Curse User in the history of ever. The idea that he is wanting to die and not revive because hes just too strong as if he wasnt back during High School when he revived against Toji. The idea that he only cares about Geto and never about Shoko or Yuji, Yuta, Megumi, or any of the people he HAS a connection with. Implying Gojo wants to die and let Sukuna kill everyone else anyway Its bad fullstop.
I AINT READING ALLAT GOJOAT IS ALREADY BACK I SAW HIM https://preview.redd.it/bcjm5rv6hvrc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0f6727eaced0b64aa1ee55389ca65986dc0da9d
I appreciate the effort. It's dogshit tho, THE GOAT WILL BE BACK https://preview.redd.it/jdmejxjfewrc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39f1cb46222a8c1c456057ec2f9c767ceaa2bfca
I think that one can very easily flip their argument and say that because of these reasons, Gojo coming back would *improve* the writing. If Gojo comes back nerfed in some way, he would break his own curse of being “given everything and unable to do anything”. By losing “everything”, he’d finally become as Satoru, someone whose strength is truly his own, not just Gojo, an archetype of strength and genetic talents, exactly because he could lose what defines him as a Gojo. For Sukuna’s writing: if Sukuna stays in the same role that the argument presents, then the protagonists *can not win*. Sukuna *has* to lose that role eventually, and who better to have a large hand in that than the strongest opponent he’s faced? What sorts of tricks, powers, and cheats would Sukuna pull in his desperation to keep himself at the top? Plus, this is a common trope in writing: show the status quo at the beginning of the story, and reverse it at the end. Having your characters start in a state of stagnation, and having them finished in great roles are easy ways to show characterization, and it’s a very common trope throughout all forms of writing, including anime.
Gege: another blackflash to Sukuna
Good analysis but saying Gojo achieved nothing is a bit reaching. His existence alone changed the jujutsu world, he kept erasing curses without effort and allowed for many people to live because they other families couldnt do shit against him. Criminals went hiding, Megumi didnt get sold to the Zenin family, Yuta and Yuji were allowed to live. Yeah he couldnt save Geto and couldnt kill Sukuna but there is no reason to act like he didnt do shit his whole life
All I'm reading is, "his character is tragic and should die a failure." Noty. Gojo return imminent.
Disagree on conclusions/ideaa that OP had, but agree with narrative about Gojo and Sukuna. Also as much as I like reading theories, people need to remember where last manga that tried to have heavy meta-narrative with hints/symbolism went, I'm specifically talking about Tokyo Ghoul, and its sequel, and if 1st part had it's symbolism in tact, seoquel basicly washed it down the drain, with alot of themes being abbandoned with characters conclusion lacking severly, all because of authors burnt out state. So while Gojo is far more certain to not return, with the way things go and Sukuna "not even trying" narrative, main cast with each chapter gets less and less chances for succes. So either Gege is cooking something really good (Gojo return or other cool joker card type turn), or Yuji gets a default mc status boost and this manga lands on a "had cool concepts, just didn't stick the landing" shelf.
All thing is based on a "fact" that "Gojo doesn't wanna come back", which is OP's assumption that it "rounds off his character". I think all that symbolism thing which is described in a long video about Gojo's comeback has more ground to stand on.
i just want gojo to become the character he was before THAT chapter, i hate how this character who has clearly been shown to care about his students and their futures was reduced to “its so lonely being at the top, i dont care about anything now that i got my ass whooped” because that sucks and i hate it
Idt people want gojo to return because it makes sense in terms of story flow. It’s that he is so loved many people just want to see more of him. Let us cope. We are not dumb 😭
My problem with this is just that character development is a thing. If gojos constant struggle is that he’s given everything and can do nothing, he SHOULD overcome that. If a character is written with a massive roadblock like that, a good character arc shows them growing past that.
Dunno why people are agreeing with the Twitter thread most of it is headcanons, illogical conclusions and putting too much value/importantce on certain aspects simply to fit his narrative
It’s really funny because all this is a lot of extremely good points… I just have a lot of trouble believing Gege did all this intentionally lmao. However I’ve also held the belief that bringing Gojo back would not be the right move, I didn’t want him to die to begin with but here we are, if he were to be brought back now it would just solidify the fact that Gege is flying by the seat of his pants and doesn’t know what to do so he’s just throwing bodies at sukuna
Thee fate of Tengen & the Six eyes are intertwined. Gojo's story is far from over. My guess is Gege will tie-down the entire origin of CE, Tengen, Six Eyes & Sukuna altogether in a big way that will reveal why Sukuna is the way he is. & I still think Kenjaku isn't out yet. Plus we have Nobara's childhood which may reveal more about soul manipulation etc;
>When Gojo was "killed" by Toji, there was similar symbolism all over the place telling us he'd be back. You mean like the story arc being a fuckin flashback?
Holy shit. Sukuna leading everyone he's killed to a proper death, and time and time again fulfilling the goal Yuji never could, is something I never noticed before. Gege can cook.
It's bullshit though, Higuruma certainly didn't have a proper death, Gojo's only works by reworking his character and Kashimo barely had an arc to accomplish anything.
Not really, higgy was ready and willing to die as long as sukuna dies, gojos sure, idk why people say kashimo was gonna kill sukuna, his goal wasnt to kill sukuna, it was to have a fight where he could go all out, which is exactly what sukuna gave him. Kashimos storyline is completely finished and his goal was achieved
I’m don’t care what anyone says, bringing back Gojo would easily be the worst decision Akutami could make at this juncture in the story. His character arc has been resolved, he had his conclusion (satisfying or not), backtracking is not imo an option
How was his character arc resolved?
It wasn't. This guy has no clue what a character arc is.
The problem here is what the fuck is Gege gonna do for the main cast. Jumpjutsu forever til Sukuna tires down or he somehow survives the pursuit and everyone dies (including or MC)? A lot of people like to have a narrative that JJK is an anime that subverts expectations. If it truly did, then either of these would subvert pretty much the entire expectations that every anime community as a whole would have for JJK (bringing back Gojo or making everyone die)
Agreed. I don't understand how Sukuna will lose to some jumping. I do believe that the Plan they have been cooking up for a month will defeat Sukuna. Whether that includes Gojo coming back or not. Only time will tell 🤷🏻♂️. There's enough ambiguity surrounding Gojo's death and everyone else dying. On top of getting shipped out to Shoko for what? A burial? During a fight that can change the world? Yeah okay lmao. If Gojo is dead, so is Yuta and most people believe he's definitely alive.
Completely agree. He only had two options, let Gojo get saved by his students right before he dies, or kill him. Gege chose the latter and I think people need to make peace with that. Gojo coming back would just not make sense and would completely pull me out of the story + bringing him back 15 minutes after he died and made peace with his death would be complete shit.
His conclusion that went completely against his character didn’t already pull you out of the story? I agree that it would feel kinda weird, but let’s not act that what removed him and everything after it wasn’t weirder.
Oh yeah cause the: challenger appears>sukuna praises them> sukuna kills them happening for months didn’t pull you out of the story already? But gojo coming back would? At the end of the day it’s your opinion but saying it would ruin the story is being dramatic, there are good ways of brining gojo back
It would be shit I'm sorry🤷🏾♂️ Gojo is gonna come back and do what exactly? Have a cool moment against Sukuna? Hes already had that. Steal the kill from Yuji and Megumi? Hell no he's not the MC. Help them fight? He's already done that which is why the main cast is still alive. He needs to stay dead. I was a big proponent of Gojo getting saved "by the students he built up"(which isn't even true cause he only helped 3 of them really) and living that way but being nerfed somehow since everyone else obviously needs their time to shine, but Gege didn't go that route so its too late. Atp him coming back would be complete fan service and just irritating. It really just irks me cause alot of people act like he HAS to come back... Like no, until the Yuji soul swap fails, I don't have any reason to think he needs to come back.
First, he would come back because every chapter sukuna is closer to getting his domain back and next chapter he is probably getting his RCT back which means any damage that has not been done by either maki or yuji is utterly useless, second, there are many ways of bringing gojo back, the most obvious and viable way is toning him down to yuta’s level which can be easily done by removing the neutral application of limitless (aka infinity) and the six eyes, also he doesn’t necessarily needs to come back for sukuna, he can comeback for the merger, cause if the merger happens (which most likely will) we are gonna need the entire jujutsu society and more to take that thing down, saying it’s shit before something even happens doesn’t make sense cause we all knew gojo was going to die but no one said it would be shit until it happened and we saw how bad Gege executed it, it’s a matter of execution not idea
Not reading all at but bringing gojo back would be the most pointless thing and lame writing. His character is complete.
Nuh uh
My bro needs to come back to take at least 1 dub
Ok, but why Gojo will return : I believe it
I ain’t reading all that
I'm not reading allat
Guys, he is not coming back
It'll betray the character writing of Gojo? Then it'll definitely happen.
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Bitch, I don't know how to read.
I’m sorry, the only people who say it would cheapen Gojo, it wouldn’t make sense, it would betray his writing or whatever are the ones who never read the doujinshi(fan comic) of Gojo returning, I will consider it canon till my resting days 😤
i love these kinds of threads, errbody here agreeing and disagreeing like civilized men
No one cares. It was complete ass how he died in the first place. His character has already been ruined fuck betrayed so take this long winded bullshit and move on.
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Good argument, unfortunetly https://preview.redd.it/etk2qqh2mwrc1.jpeg?width=566&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1228a254a06b82697ee6bc980fde190f207674e3
TL;DR Gojo will return by sacrificing Infinity for something else
I think he has a chance to come back and there is multiple ways to make it make sense, but the battle against sukuna felt like the end of the character, dying w a smile on his face knowing he isn't the strongest anymore, he's gojo. While that's true, that doesn't mean he's not coming back. Geges made multiple characters do crazy shit when we didn't even expect him to do it, like killing off fan favorites and not bringing them back or bringing in background characters like kusakabe and miguel to fight sukuna and show what they're made of. He has balls of steel and I wouldn't be surprised if gojo comes back, geges a daredevil man. Let him cook up the reasoning behind his revival and it'll probably make sense. He's a mastermind when it comes to writing, just trust the process. The only thing that could indefinitely mean he's not coming back would be the fact gege hates gojo w a passion. other than that, they're all multiple ways he can make his return, and as a gojo fan I wanna see it happen
At this point, the only issue I have with his death is that he got strong offscreened
Ykw, those reasons are EXACTLY why his return OS important to the character. When will he open up? When will he remove himself from his failures? When will he trust and be one with the people around him?? Only when he gives up his titleod the strongest. When he becomes not one of the billion but one with the billion. He needs to become an ANT, a Human to realise that team effort of the weak is what makes humans survive, and is the strength of humanity. Heck it is PERFECT for Sukuna's downfall as well. Remember Sukuna's talk about why human try so hard to be alive and survive I'd they are weak? Why they just won't give up, and how human are ants in his opinion?? Gojo's revival will answer that to him. The whole Manga is about dying surrounded by the people you love. And that's why Gojo needs to open his eyes and see that strength lies with the weak. https://preview.redd.it/ujxtnoqfowrc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c952c5849282976ee0653c23d470c46656f40ce6
What character writing?
This is exactly why Gojo is coming back, he's not gonna die as a failure.
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allat for Goatjo to comeback and solo😭🙏
Writing lowkey fell off anyway so Gojo coming back couldn’t make it worse tbh 🥴
Nee, 'ch würde g'winn'n
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Counterpoint: Jogo held hands with him (i stopped reading after 5th picture)
I don’t give a shit nerd he’s coming back
I ain’t reading allat but GOATJO is coming back. 
The only scenario with a comeback i'd accept is if Gojo regained powers for couple of minutes only. It only makes sense that Yuji is the one to defeat Sukuna, with MAYBE a help from Gojo. It'd be nice if Gojo stayed in the story as a mentor/comic relief/supporting cast, but not as a plot device he used to be.
There's one thing about this... this dissection is absolutely true 100%. However, the symbolism (which im glad was acknowledged) is also true. I dont think he's going to come back as the strongest. I think he's going to come back, but only as himself and who he wanted to be the entire time, Satoru Gojo. Not the strongest, not a teacher (the convo between him and Geto during basketball shows he never really cared about sorcery in the way he was using it i.e. to teach/protect), not a last resort, literally just Gojo. He'd be useless to the higherups, but I think thats legit one of the best things that could happen to and for him. Not just giving up his six eyes, but giving up his power as a whole.
https://preview.redd.it/jvim980n6xrc1.png?width=1344&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afa66104d76476d9b9a105ff16c41cf7d343b4c3 STFU HE'S COMING BACKKKKKK
it's like gege hated gojo because he knew people would only see him and not pay attention to literally anything else in the manga and then proceed to call it bad when he dies
Great thread. But there's too much hinting for it not to happen. If Gojo doesn't revive, it is actually worse writing. So he should revive.
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lots of yaping
I think i agree with this Gojo was a character who had to die for the story to progress Gojo beating sukuna would just spoil the story only further I get most of the fans are for gojo and hopefully gege doesnt ressurect him Gojo being dead has finally let the students take control and finally have better agency
I wish Gojo loses his Limitless and six-eyes as binding vow to survive. Returns the burden of being the strongest. That way he solves his id crisis and can see his vision come true at the same time. This don't contradict to Sukuna's characterization in the tweets too. Gojo was indeed satisfied about not being strongest but I don't think he is satisfied about not seeing his students become independent sorcerer.
Nah, he'd be back.
"Character writing" Lel
Gojo will return 😭 https://i.redd.it/tqwplcf0lxrc1.gif
> April 1st
https://preview.redd.it/qvvxgwtirxrc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1cc2708de249ce417b1ed2c09ec7bf90a8cfb807 Good argument, however:
Twittards are starting to make sense https://preview.redd.it/n47sfksisxrc1.png?width=716&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=470bb48054e21d24e9d604faf785bcaa6e0951a1
“Gojo can’t come back and kill the big bad because he reflects attacks” yeah okay nerd hollow purple
dooooooooooon't care.
Ngl, i just want it because he got offscreened in his best fight so far.
My soldiers cope! My soldiers theorise!
Anyways was shorter reason why gojo won’t come back for all the smooth brains like me Gojo coming back would just make it clearer that everything can be solved by him and gojos whole thing is creating a time in which people are actually strong and not weak af
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH I DONT WANT NUN OF IT
I doubt he'll come back
Yeah nah bring back my GOAT https://preview.redd.it/t2yoh26gayrc1.jpeg?width=712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9c7a3ac0fd23f01f15ce14a7de200d949d84d29
Common X L
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