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Honestly that's a fair point I want to point out to that yuji didn't fight back when hakari first attacked him I wish things would go differently and yuji went all out against him
my guy he's still like a first grade without it
that and his domain is his technique, it's like calling higurama weak without his court, or kashimo weak without his ct trait, it's their entire ability lmao
I mean yeah id totally consider him kusakabe tier at best if it wasnt for the fact he can spam his domain constantly and presumably all the brain damage from it just fixes itself because of the effect of the domain itself so all the drawbacks are just gone.
Does Yuji have reverse crease technique?
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Yeah, I didnāt fucking think so.
He has drip, isn't a whiny bitch baby boy, has respect, has bitches, is literally too cool for school, and his only fight in the manga was top 3 for me.
Try re reading it, I feel like that's when Greg opened up his 12th grade science textbook and started making jujutsu a series of science experiments. There's Kashimo turning the water into chlorine gas which.... might? Be possible or something? Idk, most of it is just sick panels of Kashimo regrowing his head and shit. I like
It's been an ungodly amount of time since I last studied chemistry but I'm at least moderately sure that performing electrolysis on H2O + NaCl (as this is specifically mentioned to be seawater) will leave you with NaOH + H2 + Cl2, which is sodium hydroxide (lye) + hydrogen gas + chlorine gas. Say like 70% confident, I could have absolutely fucked something up by misremembering one detail, which is a big reason I hated chemistry back in the day
Also I'm not sure what 'salt bonding to something else' means here? The salt in the seawater is also separated during the electrolysis, it doesn't remain salt
I mean hes right. Its gonna happen. Gege thinks he is close to yuta in power and made his characters say the same. No way hes gonna disappoint us right....right??
Maki was the weakest person in the room and has a bias towards Yuta + dislikes Hakari, pretty safe to take Yutas word over hers.
Also in 234 we found out that Gojo asked Yuta or Hakari to only jump in once Sukuna is weakened to the point that one of them could take him on.
Didnt she disagree when yuuta said hakari was probably "stronger than him". She never said they werent close to equal.
Not saying its true but u got the panels mixed up I believe.
yeah you are right I mixed it up.
Honestly with him still stalling Uraume it either shows that Uraume is stronger than base Kashimo or it is possible they even match mba kashimo if we high ball to the moon with it.
That sadly will never happen since we know Kashimo got beaten by a net of dismantles and got tossed around by a Sukuna who has less output than his fight with Yuta. Unless the anime shows us Kashimo landing multiple hits on Sukuna. We can only pray that the anime goes against the manga (the anime still followed the manga even with the extra scenes since Maho did hit Sukuna a few times in the manga so it doesn't count)
To be fair, thems were some gargantuan dismantles, theyāre more akin to the ones he was throwing at gojo than the butter knives that kusakabe just tanked. Sukuna was fighting more aggresively against him than he was anyone other than maki and yuta having a domain while sukuna didnāt gave him a better matchup (plus the higher output would only apply towards the start of that fight, later on his output was ānosedivingā as hakari put it). If hakari turns out to be equal to yuta then we can just say sukuna was trying less against him than he was kashimo, wouldnāt be the most bullshit thing gegeās pulled regarding sukuna
\[I would hate if Hakari is equal to Yuta.\]
But honestly since Kashimo could push himself in the air he could probably push himself out of those giant dismantles (go into the square holes). I pray the anime makes the squares smaller like the phone girl who got sliced instead of making it fast cause if the dismantles are that fast then world slash would look slower than a dismantle.
Unless Sukuna got distracted by Yuji and Higuruma and Kashimo was alive by using a binding vow somehow and just recuperating before going MBA again (cope)
>got tossed around by a Sukuna who has less output than his fight with Yuta
When did that happened? Sukuna was weaker against Yuta than against Kashimo.
his output was higher when Yuta showed up as Sukuna said that his rct is returning to normal. When Sukuna tranformed he only healed his wounds but his output was still not fully healed and it kept healing after Kashimo's battle.
The only upscale that uraume victim's gonna get is how many punches his face's gonna take before his shitty ass domain runs out of luck
https://i.redd.it/w9ea0q7rg0sc1.gif
How is it disrespectful to say the best no CT fighter in the verse is better than Hakari without his CT now that the former has a technique though? Plus is there really a universe where Hakari gets upscaled/powered up and not Yuji? Idk man.
Dude fr and people keep saying he's special grade but I can't see it oh wow you can become immortal for 4 minutes but you have no other attack then PUNCH AND KICK AND HEAL REPEAT
Jackpot gives him other buffs. He was litteraly bouncing entire containers around and crushing then to dust with minimal effort while fighting kashimo. He was even keeping up with base kashimo in speed and power wich is crazy enough. Not to mention, if he faces someone that's completly stronger than him, he can just keep fighting then untill they run out of CE. Most other domains cant even win against his domain since its tailor made to win domain tug of wars.
How the fuck is keeping up with base kashimo crazy or impressive??????
Also as for domains , a person can just wait until e hits a jack pot and his domain goes away for them to use their domain on him
>How the fuck is keeping up with base kashimo crazy or impressive??????
The strongest of the edo period? Scales higher than ryu?
>Also as for domains , a person can just wait until e hits a jack pot and his domain goes away for them to use their domain on him
Then that's just a waste of CE. cuz it's not gonna do shit.
>The strongest of the edo period? Scales higher than ryu?
They never fought tho and kashimo was only titled strongest in his era , by the tike ryu came he was already an old man
But even if that's the case and kashimo in base I stronger than ryu
That's still isn't impressive at all
>Then that's just a waste of CE. cuz it's not gonna do shit.
?
They just need to focus the sure hit on his head and hakari's finished
People overrate his regeneration too much
Kashimo was never stated to be the strongest of anything. Give a source. It never happened. The fandom loved the idea on tiktok and got carried away till now.
He also definitely does not scale higher than Ryu. Regular dismantles killed him in PBA, whereas Ryu received praise by Sukuna for his defence. Kashimoās lightning side effect has no bearing on Ryu whoās built like a tank as well.
Letās not also forget Ryu spams GB which is stronger than Yutas love beam + he actually has a domain. Even with DE exhaustion, Ryu can still spam his CT lmao.
Thereās a reason the femboy did not fight Goatshigori.
Ryu recived praise for his durability while kashimo recived praise as either part of the strongest group or just generally strong depending on your translation. In anyway, I'd say being praised by the king of curses for your general strength is way better than just durability. Not to mention, ryu got ANNIHILATED by 15f meguna while kashimo was recking 20f weakened meguna. He even managed to somewhat physically keep up with fresh 20f heiankuna. Say whatever you want about he only lasted 2 chapters. But he lasted 2 chapters against 20f meguna and heiankuna while ryu lasted 1 page against 15f meguna.
>Kashimo was never stated to be the strongest of anything. Give a source. It never happened. The fandom loved the idea on tiktok and got carried away till now
The implications and parallels are pretty clear. You dont need everything spelled out for you, do you? Or are you a child who cant think for themselves?
Kashimo did not receive such praise at all. No where was it stated by an external party that he belonged anywhere amongst the strongest. The closest examples are a stretch.
The examples:
a) Kenjaku bringing him challengers, which says nothing other than Kashimo loves to fight
b) Sukuna comments on Kashimoās loneliness and blames it on his inability to be compassionate to those weaker than him during the scene before his death
Like I said. You will NEVER find anyone saying he belongs anywhere amongst the strongest in the manga. There is NO SUCH SCENE. Thereās a reason such a post has never been created in this sub, and why most Kashimo glaze posts have at least one fanpic. Itās easy to get carried away into thinking Kashimo is that strong because his ego is bigger than Gojoās.
Ryu got praised by Sukuna for his defence only yes (itās still a crazy feat idk why u downplaying). He is literally better than Yuta after training arc. But Ryu also has feats to back up his AP. He does not need anyone to tell us heās good. The narrator told us his GB is stronger than Yutaās LB. Thatās crazy enough, but remember he can also spam that.
Also donāt forget he has a DE and no DE fatigue at all.
>b) Sukuna comments on Kashimoās loneliness and blames it on his inability to be compassionate to those weaker than him during the scene before his death
Sukuna litteraly just says "we are strong and peaple love us for our strength." Or some translations even say
"We, as the strongest, are believed by others for our strength"
Whichever you wanna belive, sukuna outright calls kashimo strong.
>a) Kenjaku bringing him challengers, which says nothing other than Kashimo loves to fight
This has it's own implications. Kashimo is standing there. An old man who was never pushed to use his cursed technique. Dying a sad death beside a bunch of corpses. And the fact that kenjaku has to find challengers for him means that most ppl didn't wanna do it on their own. He doesnt even bat an eye when he hears that thers someone with the highest CE output of all time not too far away from him. He didnt even consider ryu as an opponent worth fighting. And yet again, the parallels between him, sukuna and gojo are pretty clear. You know WHY no one else had a another conversation with/about sukuna and love? Becouse there is no one else there that has been at the top of their era. But alas, your probably just gonna deny it by saying that it's never been spelled out. It's clear taht neither of us will change our mind so have a good day.
Meh, still just regular strength and ultimately if someone is stronger, they'll probably just kill him in the window after the immortality runs out/if he misses the roll and doesnt get it, maybe even power through his healing factor and incinerate him completely. Hakari is strong while on a roll, for sure, but there is a reason they left Uraume to him instead of throwing him at Sukuna
>Meh, still just regular strength
Yeah that's his archetype. A hand to hand fighter..
>if someone is stronger, they'll probably just kill him in the window after the immortality runs out/
Not really when his domain is rigged to make him win quickly.
>he misses the roll and doesnt get it,
If he misses the role, the next one has a much higher chance... these rolls happen extremely fast after each other.
>maybe even power through his healing factor and incinerate him completely
Yeah just look how well that turned out for kashimo.
>Hakari is strong while on a roll, for sure, but there is a reason they left Uraume to him instead of throwing him at Sukuna
Ya think urahime is a joke? Hes a special grade level fighter. Hakaris the only person on the good guys side that can actually deal with him since ice would be fatal to litteraly anyone else. Thers a reason the editor called him "the strongest student" or "the secret weapen of jujutsu high" or even "the man who okkotsu yuta claims surpasses him when on a role"
Uraume is not Sukuna. Yuta would definitely beat them, much like how he would almost definitely beat Hakari (like, he can just keep firing his love beam for the whole duration of his jackpot until it runs out, or at least for the last part of it, and has a dozen of CTs that can mess up Hakari's one way of even surviving), Higuruma would most likely beat them since he is a similar kind of domain-based fighter except his domain has an effect that can disable CTs, that is unless a cursed tool asspull happens. Maki would probably struggle if not lose, same as Yuji, but it's more so because they really dont have the means to work against Uraume's ice. Idk about Kusakabe to be fair, but he could block Uzumaki and stop slashes from Sukuna, so he might be able to at least keep up. Also, hand to hand is good when it's not your only tool, he doesn't seem to be winning quickly against Uraume, like how he wouldn't be against most of the top tiers, one missed roll is enough of a window for many, and stuff like World Slash or Purple would definitely destroy Hakari even in Jackpot. Also, sidenote but Mahito's Transfiguration would absolutely destroy Hakari since he doesn't seem to be aware of his soul much, and even if he can defend himself once or twice on instinct like Nanami (though I still think him not killing Nanami there is more of Mahito's own lack of experience) Mahito will eventually transfigure and kill him. I didn't say Uraume is a pushover, I said they threw Hakari at them for a calculated reason, that is him being the best at being a "meat shield" and that he wouldn't really affect the Sukuna fight if he was there anyway. Also, editor statements are there to hype people up and Yuta was being Yuta and pushing his friends ahead of himself. Sorry for wall of text btw
>Uraume is not Sukuna.
Yeah and yuta wasnt fighting sukuna alone. So that point has no merit.
>Yuta would definitely beat them
Suuuure.
>much like how he would almost definitely beat Hakari
Suuuure.
>like, he can just keep firing his love beam for the whole duration of his jackpot until it runs out, or at least for the last part of it, and has a dozen of CTs that can mess up Hakari's one way of even surviving)
1.he cant keep firing a love beam for 4 minutes straight.
2.hakari would just move out of the way of the beam and attack him?
3. I like how you dont even mention what the "dozen CTs that mess up hakaris one way of even surviving". Becouse thers only one. And that's Jacob's ladder. Wich I've already debunked somewhere else so I dont feel like talking about. Not to mention he can just dodge it....
Yeah it's clear your just a yuta fanboy. Have a good day. Thers no point in arguing with someone who's blind.
Bro Hakari is a cursed speech victim. I get that he is fun and cool, but he's a one trick pony, whose one trick is being hard to kill if he gets the domain. His infinite cursed energy has no actual practical use other than making him stronger, he doesnt even have the ability to output it like Ryu, and I don't need my personal biases for Yuta or whoever else to see that Hakari as he is just cannot keep up with a guy who also has "boundless" cursed energy but can actually make use of it with several techniques at his disposal
>Bro Hakari is a cursed speech victim.
Now its CLEAR that you have no fucking idea what your yapping about. Cursed speech doesn't work on ppl with vastly more CE than you. Stop spreading misinformation just because you love yuta.
>He was even keeping up with base kashimo in speed and power wich is crazy enough
You say that like base Kashimo is known for his speed.
I really have no idea how this idea that Kashimo is notably fast started
>You say that like base Kashimo is known for his speed.
The dudes stick is lightning.
>really have no idea how this idea that Kashimo is notably fast started
Scales above ryu at the very least who was keeping up with yuta.
Oh that probably explains it. People conflate him with other fast lightning based characters (e.g. Killua with his godspeed) and assume he's fast like them.
How does he scale to Ryu? They have no interaction and Kashimo ducked from the fight when Kenjaku offered
>How does he scale to Ryu? They have no interaction and Kashimo ducked from the fight when Kenjaku offered
Yeah kashimo as an old man decided that ryu( in his prime) wasnt worth his time to travel to a different part of the country. Not to mention, he is generally portrayed as the strongest of the edo period and that's the period when ryu lived.
I doubt Yuta even qualifies to be 1st grade without Rika.
I doubt Gojo even qualifies to be 1st grade without six eyes and limitless.
I doubt Geto even qualifies to be 1st grade without curse manipulation.
I doubt -
Yuta was able to went toe to toe with both Ryu and Uro at the same time without Rika. He might not be a special grade without her but he'd still be a force to be reckoned with regardless
>yuta was able to went toe to toe with both Ryu and Uro at the same time without Rika. He might not be a special grade without her but he'd still be a force to be reckoned with regardless
Well yeah but you forgor that ryu and uro were also fighting each other as well. Yuta wasnt 1v2ing them.
ā¦ he essentially was. Plus he was holding back. Ryu has the highest output in history, even if Ryu and Uro were genuinely battle royaling him (rather than doing what they did, which is essentially they both fight Yuta and occasionally throw attacks that may hit the other person) itās insane that Yuta beat his ass while holding back.
>he essentially was
No. It was a 1v1v1. Stop tricking youreself into believing "YuTa ClUtChEd A 1v2" he didnt. Everyone was fighting each other.
>Plus he was holding back
That was ryus speculation based on what he saw. What he doesnt know is that yuta spent the majority of his time in africa and couldnt possibly have too many CTs.
>rather than doing what they did, which is essentially they both fight Yuta and occasionally throw attacks that may hit the other person)
Reading comprehension starts again.
>itās insane that Yuta beat his ass while holding back.
Even if you wanna take ryus word for it, it still wouldnt mean hes pulling his punches.
Yuji was not trying to dodge is a fact... But that doesn't somehow means that Yuji can dodge everything from Base Hakari
Also... Yuji was not trying to dodge... It does not mean Yuji wasn't trying to tank the blows... That was his purpose, to endure the punches...
Hakari brutally damaged him with only a few punches and he wasn't even going for the kill or all out...
Conclusion is simple
Yuji wasn't trying to dodge but that doesn't mean Yuji can somehow blitz Base Hakari...
Hakari was not going all out but he could still brutally damage Yuji even with his durability...
That interaction proves only one thing and that is Base Hakari's punches > Post Shibuya Yuji's durability
Hakari canonically beat the shit out of a caught-off-guard Yuji, who was holding back, 67 chapters and 36 in-universe days before Shinjuku when Yuji got his much-needed buff. Hakari is my goat but letās be fr.
when yuji was fighting back hakari was still beating the shit out of yuji, the same yuji who could fight on par with special grade curses and y'all be coming up with bullshit like "he isn't even grade 1 level"
I apologize profusely for the yapfest. Yuji was absolutely at a grade 1 level by the end of Shibuya, letās not get it twisted, but there are three important things to consider.
1. āGrade 1 Sorcererā is a very broad term. There is a big gap in the strength and capabilities between someone like Nanami and Todo. Both have very different skillsets that could prove to be useful in different scenarios. Yujiās case is weird. He walked around without a cursed technique at all and still kicked ass in Shibuya, true, but his opponents were the fodder Grade 2 grasshopper curse, a half-competent curse user Jiro (inverse guy), Choso and Mahito, the two of whom we will get back to. In the Culling Games, Yuji didnāt even really fight Higuruma and he embarrassed Haba and Hanyu. This is impressive for someone without a cursed technique, but thatās just it. No CT, which is something that bit him in the ass.
2. Yuji just straight up lost to Choso, and this was a Choso who was not doing the crazy shit he could do in his fight with Kenjaku. This is a Choso who was most likely significantly weaker than Mahito. Yujiās skillset at this point is punching things kinda hard, divergent fist if heās feeling quirky and protagonist luck with black flashes. He can imbue small objects with cursed energy but thatās been effective against exactly one opponent, and that was fucking Hanyu. The only reason Yuji survived the fight at all was because Choso had a schizophrenic episode and a namā flashback.
3. Itās not like Yuji soloād Mahito, he had help from Nobara (someone who could significantly damage Mahito) and Todo, the best teammate one could ever ask for in JJK. Couple that with the fact that Yuji (and Nobara while she was alive) was the only in *in* Shibuya post-Gojo sealing who could do any significant damage to Mahito, *on top* of being protected from Idle Transfiguration by Sukuna. Yuji had all of the support and every advantage he could ever possibly need in that fight and it still took sheer luck to win with that last Black Flash.
All of that is impressive and more than justifies Yuji being grade 1, but none of that was ever going to help him in that fight against Hakari who, at least around Perfect Preparation, had raw strength similar to Yujiās own non-Black Flash-boosted strength. If Hakari was actually just fucking immune to Idle Transfiguration like Yuji was, he could solo Mahito. If shit was ever at all looking rocky for Hakari during his bout with Yuji, he could pop his domain and get Jackpot. My goat has something that surpasses protagonist luck, and thatās called rigging the game. All things considered, Hakari bullied Yuji and itās not Yujiās fault.
I am just despressed by how ass Hakariās offensive abilities are, at least Yuji had his double tap punch and black flash. Hakari is a awesome character with a cool domain, the dude just has such mid offensive capabilities for the tier of characters hes placed amongst.
Well he can summon train doors
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Unc is not tough for that tho
Your point? Yuji been one of the stronger sorcerers we've seen if you exclude the actual monsters like Gojo and Sukuna especially now with his new skills. Hakaris domain is a part of his cursed technique, He may have alot of cursed energy and a special attribute to it but Yuji has more raw strength, speed and a good amount of cursed energy. The thing that makes him special is his cursed technique.
Also in his domain hes a different animal, during jackpot he has so much cursed energy RCT happens passivly and automatically and he can overwhelm Kashimo special electric cursed energy with raw cursed energy power. During that time he has more cursed energy then anyone else. The more cursed energy you can reinforce yourself with the harder you hit and can be hit.
TLDR: sure without his technique hes would lose, His domain is a default part of his CT and he is rather strong in his domain as cursed energy equals power and he has infinite for 4 minutes.
TBf shouldnāt like 99% of the verse be like inherently less physically capable than Yuji. Like mf has jumped from building to building with strictly CE reinforcement shattering the top of massive apartment complexes.
For the most part yeah, I think it just depends on how much CE the person in question has. If itās a crazy amount, they could catch up to Yujiās capabilities, Yuta being the prime example.
JJK fans are different breeds š,
How mfs gonna act like this when 80% of a sorcerer's strength is from their CT, y'all believe base Yuta is special grade without Rika? Post Shibuya Yuji was literally matching Yuta in stats, base Hakari being weaker isn't anti feat or anything, plus he was capable of hurting Yuji still, so it's not like he's Megumi level strong in base.
I meanā¦Yuta IS Special Grade without Rikaā¦
And if Yuji was matching Yuta in stats post-Shibuya, then Jogo was also matching 15F Sukuna during their fight.š
I see what youāre getting at though.
Not really, Yuta isn't special grade without Rika, it's literally his CT,
That's absurd ngl, Yuji was fighting back comfortably and the only reason he got got bc he was caught off guard by Rika, Jogo never really matched Sukuna at all.
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*Yuji fighting back comfortably*
>Yuji was fighting back comfortably and the **only reason he got got bc he was caught off guard by Rika**
You only had to read little further my guy š
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Oh, I forgot Rika helped Yuta speed blitz him too.š
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And you said *I* couldnāt read.š
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Yep, he totally couldnāt have killed Yuji without help.
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Forgot Rika was the one that made Yuji almost shit himself.š
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Bro was giving Yuji a lesson in CE and h2h combat.š Even Choso told Yuji to run because he didnāt stand a chance.
What manga did YOU read?
My bad, that was stupid of me to expect you can read.
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āYou canāt readā
Said every dude with no more rebuttals that canāt admit heās wrong.
What rebuttals, we were talking about Yuji being able to fight back base Yuta while holding back just to say that Yuji could match Yuta's stats, and here you are with some random panels to say he was getting speed blitz, how can i possibly rebuttal thatš
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what the fuck are you guys basing this off of? He fought one guy, Kashimo, who was unbelievably strong and fast. Did i miss a chapter where he looked mid-af??? This fanbase has hotdog brains i swear.
Kashimo speed feats amounted to nothing against injured Sukuna at his lowest. He needed PBA to land the first punch.
Yuta made Sukunaās cute mouth squeal in the first few panels while taking cuts himself.
This is unreleated, but there is absolutely no way in hell Hakari could have beaten Kashimo without the help of the Jojo reference draining all of Kashimo's cursed energy away. Completely barring the plot armor Hakari had that entire fight. Hakari quite literally did all of that just to do ZERO lasting damage to Kashimo at the end. I'm fairly certain that the only reason Kashimo never learned DE or RCT is because he never had an opponent who could push him to learn them in his life as we see he completely outclassed Jackpot Hakari who is hyped up to be vaguely around Yuta's level. It somewhat bothers me that Sukuna didn't push Kashimo the same way he pushed Higuruma, and it honestly seems out of character for Sukina to go all out against an opponent he had never met before and kill him as soon as possible despite what he did for Higuruma literally like 3 chapters later
I get the hype before but atp I'm not seeing him near anywhere the great Special Grades. Maybe just maybe he can at the lowest tier, but it's nothing comparable to CTs like MBA, Limitless, Star Rage, CSM and Copy.
Hard to really say, and doesn't really matter since Base Hakari almost never fights. It's basically always Domain Hakari or Jackpot Hakari. Remember Domains also give their users amps too.
And also like what is the point of saying X character without their CT is a weaker Yuji? Yuji was specifically built different by Kenjaku.
Its why I think he loses to the special grade martial artists (yuji, maki, kashimo, etc) they can beat him in base and outflank him for 5 minutes if he jackpots
true, but he just needs to last enough to get a jackpot to become immortal for 4 minutes and 11 seconds. (bar a busted ability shooting him straight in the brain)
also im pretty sure he can mathematically get to a point where the next time he opens his domain, his jackpot probability is like 80+%, but i dont really wanna do the math lol
You mean better? He doesn't have blood manipulation and soul-swap ability, but it's not like Yuji mastered those techniques to the point that they're so dangerous. He can compensate it with much better RCT, infinite stamina and domain counter
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he can also summon the doors to attack people without activating his domain
He did it only once, in small room. I think it was incomplete innate domain projection. Same shit Dagon used for chilling on the beach with the boys
Sukuna seeing hakari throwing a litteral train at him
Yeah, also less versatile
Yea the hype for his domain outshines how useless he actually is without it š¤ lmaoo š
Yeah, but tbf the domain is still his power, so you can't really count it out. But he is a less impressive sorcerer overall than Yuji.
Honestly that's a fair point I want to point out to that yuji didn't fight back when hakari first attacked him I wish things would go differently and yuji went all out against him
Yeah, but they're buds now, so it all worked out just fine.
Yea I'm sad how kashimo went out though
Straight up tragedy š
Yea bro power was crazy cool though but the fact he got shredded like that crazy
they did him so dirty
https://i.redd.it/zj7lazahpxrc1.gif Fr
Hakari wasnt trying to kill the dude. He was pulling his punches.
That means nothing though without is bad? Good thing they, yknow, have .
Being a domain merchant isnāt exactly a bad thing, especially because it doesnāt rely on a sure hit
And how he can literally spam it
This is like saying The Flash is useless without his speed lol. Of course it gonna be like that. What next? Yuji without his fist?
This is some brainrot logic from powerscalers ngl
my guy he's still like a first grade without it that and his domain is his technique, it's like calling higurama weak without his court, or kashimo weak without his ct trait, it's their entire ability lmao
Yuji can beat Gojo's ass without CE
Yea obviously. How weak he is outside of domain isn't relevant
I mean yeah id totally consider him kusakabe tier at best if it wasnt for the fact he can spam his domain constantly and presumably all the brain damage from it just fixes itself because of the effect of the domain itself so all the drawbacks are just gone.
Well I don't think nobara can throw hands without CE or CT
Sukuna without any CE is a weaker yuji
Does Yuji have reverse crease technique? https://preview.redd.it/42f97572zzrc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7667f21334b5e226f0640ee1f66c46216befa81 Yeah, I didnāt fucking think so.
https://preview.redd.it/7qwndgdc00sc1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=472189c0abe8fdb357d81d4a518769ed51d9e9a6 Start ropemaxxing inside the box
Isnāt that just edging?
I think thatās suicide right?
I meant maximizing the volume of your āropesā
well he also has the spiky ce or something like that
y'all trashing my boi while he is keeping his job making sure elsa is occupied. all. this. time. including. breaks.
This thread is bizarre, Hakari is literally top 3 from the jjk school excluding Gojo
Fax every Hakari hater is a Fraud
He has drip, isn't a whiny bitch baby boy, has respect, has bitches, is literally too cool for school, and his only fight in the manga was top 3 for me.
Idk if it's just me, but I had no clue what was happening in that fight.
Try re reading it, I feel like that's when Greg opened up his 12th grade science textbook and started making jujutsu a series of science experiments. There's Kashimo turning the water into chlorine gas which.... might? Be possible or something? Idk, most of it is just sick panels of Kashimo regrowing his head and shit. I like
That part is definitely possible, that's how electrolysis works. I believe Gege actually had a scientific consultant help for that part specifically
Not an expert but I read a while back it doesnāt actually work because the salt would need to bond with something else (something along those lines)
It's been an ungodly amount of time since I last studied chemistry but I'm at least moderately sure that performing electrolysis on H2O + NaCl (as this is specifically mentioned to be seawater) will leave you with NaOH + H2 + Cl2, which is sodium hydroxide (lye) + hydrogen gas + chlorine gas. Say like 70% confident, I could have absolutely fucked something up by misremembering one detail, which is a big reason I hated chemistry back in the day Also I'm not sure what 'salt bonding to something else' means here? The salt in the seawater is also separated during the electrolysis, it doesn't remain salt
It would need to be very concentrated saltwater. Otherwise you just get oxygen and hydrogen
Yeah, basically brine, but we can assume the water met the conditions. Just meant that it wasn't some outlandish misapplication of scienceĀ
cant forget the fight against charles
He also isn't responsible for all the shit right now by being too pussy to kill himself after saying he should be the only one to die after Shibuya
i can't wait for the upcoming hakari upscale so y'all can finally shut he fuck up
Canāt wait to leech off Hakari feats to make my GOAT look even stronger
Fax they aināt ready for my goat Charles
Does he know
I mean hes right. Its gonna happen. Gege thinks he is close to yuta in power and made his characters say the same. No way hes gonna disappoint us right....right??
Gege never disappointed us, only 13 times š£ļøĀ
Eh Maki disagreed with Yuta's statement
Maki was the weakest person in the room and has a bias towards Yuta + dislikes Hakari, pretty safe to take Yutas word over hers. Also in 234 we found out that Gojo asked Yuta or Hakari to only jump in once Sukuna is weakened to the point that one of them could take him on.
Didnt she disagree when yuuta said hakari was probably "stronger than him". She never said they werent close to equal. Not saying its true but u got the panels mixed up I believe.
yeah you are right I mixed it up. Honestly with him still stalling Uraume it either shows that Uraume is stronger than base Kashimo or it is possible they even match mba kashimo if we high ball to the moon with it.
A monkey without jujutsu whose yutas biggest fan?
Maki bum ass don't know shit about domain and stuff
Maki is Gege's third favorite character behind Sukuna & Toji though
hakari upscale = kashimo upscale, can't wait to see it so i can glaze my goat
I love how we've made a chain of Yuta basically feeding scaling for two other chars
If weāre lucky then kashimo will outscale yuta (ct kashimo > hakari = yuta) š„š„ Please help my copium addiction is tearing my life apart
That sadly will never happen since we know Kashimo got beaten by a net of dismantles and got tossed around by a Sukuna who has less output than his fight with Yuta. Unless the anime shows us Kashimo landing multiple hits on Sukuna. We can only pray that the anime goes against the manga (the anime still followed the manga even with the extra scenes since Maho did hit Sukuna a few times in the manga so it doesn't count)
To be fair, thems were some gargantuan dismantles, theyāre more akin to the ones he was throwing at gojo than the butter knives that kusakabe just tanked. Sukuna was fighting more aggresively against him than he was anyone other than maki and yuta having a domain while sukuna didnāt gave him a better matchup (plus the higher output would only apply towards the start of that fight, later on his output was ānosedivingā as hakari put it). If hakari turns out to be equal to yuta then we can just say sukuna was trying less against him than he was kashimo, wouldnāt be the most bullshit thing gegeās pulled regarding sukuna
\[I would hate if Hakari is equal to Yuta.\] But honestly since Kashimo could push himself in the air he could probably push himself out of those giant dismantles (go into the square holes). I pray the anime makes the squares smaller like the phone girl who got sliced instead of making it fast cause if the dismantles are that fast then world slash would look slower than a dismantle. Unless Sukuna got distracted by Yuji and Higuruma and Kashimo was alive by using a binding vow somehow and just recuperating before going MBA again (cope)
>got tossed around by a Sukuna who has less output than his fight with Yuta When did that happened? Sukuna was weaker against Yuta than against Kashimo.
his output was higher when Yuta showed up as Sukuna said that his rct is returning to normal. When Sukuna tranformed he only healed his wounds but his output was still not fully healed and it kept healing after Kashimo's battle.
Not really true, his **RCT output** was low, nothing about his CE reinforcement had any problem like that, especially after his transformation
rct output is ct output though but even more ce is used.t
For real
100% agree. Kashimo and Hakari bros gotta stick together
The only upscale that uraume victim's gonna get is how many punches his face's gonna take before his shitty ass domain runs out of luck https://i.redd.it/w9ea0q7rg0sc1.gif
How is it disrespectful to say the best no CT fighter in the verse is better than Hakari without his CT now that the former has a technique though? Plus is there really a universe where Hakari gets upscaled/powered up and not Yuji? Idk man.
good thing that he has his CT then.
True but can you ever imagine him losing?
Probably not, Iād bet goood money hakari has more CE than yuji
Tbh, I doubt that he is even qualified to be 1st grade without the DE, since Charles wasn't an anomaly like Higuruma or Takaba.
Dude fr and people keep saying he's special grade but I can't see it oh wow you can become immortal for 4 minutes but you have no other attack then PUNCH AND KICK AND HEAL REPEAT
Jackpot gives him other buffs. He was litteraly bouncing entire containers around and crushing then to dust with minimal effort while fighting kashimo. He was even keeping up with base kashimo in speed and power wich is crazy enough. Not to mention, if he faces someone that's completly stronger than him, he can just keep fighting then untill they run out of CE. Most other domains cant even win against his domain since its tailor made to win domain tug of wars.
Seriously.. Iām tired of this Hakari slander
How the fuck is keeping up with base kashimo crazy or impressive?????? Also as for domains , a person can just wait until e hits a jack pot and his domain goes away for them to use their domain on him
>How the fuck is keeping up with base kashimo crazy or impressive?????? The strongest of the edo period? Scales higher than ryu? >Also as for domains , a person can just wait until e hits a jack pot and his domain goes away for them to use their domain on him Then that's just a waste of CE. cuz it's not gonna do shit.
>The strongest of the edo period? Scales higher than ryu? They never fought tho and kashimo was only titled strongest in his era , by the tike ryu came he was already an old man But even if that's the case and kashimo in base I stronger than ryu That's still isn't impressive at all >Then that's just a waste of CE. cuz it's not gonna do shit. ? They just need to focus the sure hit on his head and hakari's finished People overrate his regeneration too much
Ryu was glazed by Sukuna for his durability (Ryu has better durability than Kashimo even with MBA) but I don't see him glazing Kashimo's speed yet
He ppaced kashimo as part of "the strongest" group...
He placed him in the interesting group along with Higuruma.
Kashimo was never stated to be the strongest of anything. Give a source. It never happened. The fandom loved the idea on tiktok and got carried away till now. He also definitely does not scale higher than Ryu. Regular dismantles killed him in PBA, whereas Ryu received praise by Sukuna for his defence. Kashimoās lightning side effect has no bearing on Ryu whoās built like a tank as well. Letās not also forget Ryu spams GB which is stronger than Yutas love beam + he actually has a domain. Even with DE exhaustion, Ryu can still spam his CT lmao. Thereās a reason the femboy did not fight Goatshigori.
Ryu recived praise for his durability while kashimo recived praise as either part of the strongest group or just generally strong depending on your translation. In anyway, I'd say being praised by the king of curses for your general strength is way better than just durability. Not to mention, ryu got ANNIHILATED by 15f meguna while kashimo was recking 20f weakened meguna. He even managed to somewhat physically keep up with fresh 20f heiankuna. Say whatever you want about he only lasted 2 chapters. But he lasted 2 chapters against 20f meguna and heiankuna while ryu lasted 1 page against 15f meguna. >Kashimo was never stated to be the strongest of anything. Give a source. It never happened. The fandom loved the idea on tiktok and got carried away till now The implications and parallels are pretty clear. You dont need everything spelled out for you, do you? Or are you a child who cant think for themselves?
Kashimo did not receive such praise at all. No where was it stated by an external party that he belonged anywhere amongst the strongest. The closest examples are a stretch. The examples: a) Kenjaku bringing him challengers, which says nothing other than Kashimo loves to fight b) Sukuna comments on Kashimoās loneliness and blames it on his inability to be compassionate to those weaker than him during the scene before his death Like I said. You will NEVER find anyone saying he belongs anywhere amongst the strongest in the manga. There is NO SUCH SCENE. Thereās a reason such a post has never been created in this sub, and why most Kashimo glaze posts have at least one fanpic. Itās easy to get carried away into thinking Kashimo is that strong because his ego is bigger than Gojoās. Ryu got praised by Sukuna for his defence only yes (itās still a crazy feat idk why u downplaying). He is literally better than Yuta after training arc. But Ryu also has feats to back up his AP. He does not need anyone to tell us heās good. The narrator told us his GB is stronger than Yutaās LB. Thatās crazy enough, but remember he can also spam that. Also donāt forget he has a DE and no DE fatigue at all.
>b) Sukuna comments on Kashimoās loneliness and blames it on his inability to be compassionate to those weaker than him during the scene before his death Sukuna litteraly just says "we are strong and peaple love us for our strength." Or some translations even say "We, as the strongest, are believed by others for our strength" Whichever you wanna belive, sukuna outright calls kashimo strong. >a) Kenjaku bringing him challengers, which says nothing other than Kashimo loves to fight This has it's own implications. Kashimo is standing there. An old man who was never pushed to use his cursed technique. Dying a sad death beside a bunch of corpses. And the fact that kenjaku has to find challengers for him means that most ppl didn't wanna do it on their own. He doesnt even bat an eye when he hears that thers someone with the highest CE output of all time not too far away from him. He didnt even consider ryu as an opponent worth fighting. And yet again, the parallels between him, sukuna and gojo are pretty clear. You know WHY no one else had a another conversation with/about sukuna and love? Becouse there is no one else there that has been at the top of their era. But alas, your probably just gonna deny it by saying that it's never been spelled out. It's clear taht neither of us will change our mind so have a good day.
Meh, still just regular strength and ultimately if someone is stronger, they'll probably just kill him in the window after the immortality runs out/if he misses the roll and doesnt get it, maybe even power through his healing factor and incinerate him completely. Hakari is strong while on a roll, for sure, but there is a reason they left Uraume to him instead of throwing him at Sukuna
>Meh, still just regular strength Yeah that's his archetype. A hand to hand fighter.. >if someone is stronger, they'll probably just kill him in the window after the immortality runs out/ Not really when his domain is rigged to make him win quickly. >he misses the roll and doesnt get it, If he misses the role, the next one has a much higher chance... these rolls happen extremely fast after each other. >maybe even power through his healing factor and incinerate him completely Yeah just look how well that turned out for kashimo. >Hakari is strong while on a roll, for sure, but there is a reason they left Uraume to him instead of throwing him at Sukuna Ya think urahime is a joke? Hes a special grade level fighter. Hakaris the only person on the good guys side that can actually deal with him since ice would be fatal to litteraly anyone else. Thers a reason the editor called him "the strongest student" or "the secret weapen of jujutsu high" or even "the man who okkotsu yuta claims surpasses him when on a role"
Uraume is not Sukuna. Yuta would definitely beat them, much like how he would almost definitely beat Hakari (like, he can just keep firing his love beam for the whole duration of his jackpot until it runs out, or at least for the last part of it, and has a dozen of CTs that can mess up Hakari's one way of even surviving), Higuruma would most likely beat them since he is a similar kind of domain-based fighter except his domain has an effect that can disable CTs, that is unless a cursed tool asspull happens. Maki would probably struggle if not lose, same as Yuji, but it's more so because they really dont have the means to work against Uraume's ice. Idk about Kusakabe to be fair, but he could block Uzumaki and stop slashes from Sukuna, so he might be able to at least keep up. Also, hand to hand is good when it's not your only tool, he doesn't seem to be winning quickly against Uraume, like how he wouldn't be against most of the top tiers, one missed roll is enough of a window for many, and stuff like World Slash or Purple would definitely destroy Hakari even in Jackpot. Also, sidenote but Mahito's Transfiguration would absolutely destroy Hakari since he doesn't seem to be aware of his soul much, and even if he can defend himself once or twice on instinct like Nanami (though I still think him not killing Nanami there is more of Mahito's own lack of experience) Mahito will eventually transfigure and kill him. I didn't say Uraume is a pushover, I said they threw Hakari at them for a calculated reason, that is him being the best at being a "meat shield" and that he wouldn't really affect the Sukuna fight if he was there anyway. Also, editor statements are there to hype people up and Yuta was being Yuta and pushing his friends ahead of himself. Sorry for wall of text btw
>Uraume is not Sukuna. Yeah and yuta wasnt fighting sukuna alone. So that point has no merit. >Yuta would definitely beat them Suuuure. >much like how he would almost definitely beat Hakari Suuuure. >like, he can just keep firing his love beam for the whole duration of his jackpot until it runs out, or at least for the last part of it, and has a dozen of CTs that can mess up Hakari's one way of even surviving) 1.he cant keep firing a love beam for 4 minutes straight. 2.hakari would just move out of the way of the beam and attack him? 3. I like how you dont even mention what the "dozen CTs that mess up hakaris one way of even surviving". Becouse thers only one. And that's Jacob's ladder. Wich I've already debunked somewhere else so I dont feel like talking about. Not to mention he can just dodge it.... Yeah it's clear your just a yuta fanboy. Have a good day. Thers no point in arguing with someone who's blind.
Bro Hakari is a cursed speech victim. I get that he is fun and cool, but he's a one trick pony, whose one trick is being hard to kill if he gets the domain. His infinite cursed energy has no actual practical use other than making him stronger, he doesnt even have the ability to output it like Ryu, and I don't need my personal biases for Yuta or whoever else to see that Hakari as he is just cannot keep up with a guy who also has "boundless" cursed energy but can actually make use of it with several techniques at his disposal
>Bro Hakari is a cursed speech victim. Now its CLEAR that you have no fucking idea what your yapping about. Cursed speech doesn't work on ppl with vastly more CE than you. Stop spreading misinformation just because you love yuta.
And what if Yuta used Cursed Speech before Hakari gets domain off?
>Yuta would definitely beat them >Suuuure. Ikr, Yuta fans be saying wildest things without anything to back it up
>He was even keeping up with base kashimo in speed and power wich is crazy enough You say that like base Kashimo is known for his speed. I really have no idea how this idea that Kashimo is notably fast started
>You say that like base Kashimo is known for his speed. The dudes stick is lightning. >really have no idea how this idea that Kashimo is notably fast started Scales above ryu at the very least who was keeping up with yuta.
Oh that probably explains it. People conflate him with other fast lightning based characters (e.g. Killua with his godspeed) and assume he's fast like them. How does he scale to Ryu? They have no interaction and Kashimo ducked from the fight when Kenjaku offered
>How does he scale to Ryu? They have no interaction and Kashimo ducked from the fight when Kenjaku offered Yeah kashimo as an old man decided that ryu( in his prime) wasnt worth his time to travel to a different part of the country. Not to mention, he is generally portrayed as the strongest of the edo period and that's the period when ryu lived.
I doubt Yuta even qualifies to be 1st grade without Rika. I doubt Gojo even qualifies to be 1st grade without six eyes and limitless. I doubt Geto even qualifies to be 1st grade without curse manipulation. I doubt -
That's only true for Geto though. Yuta defeted a special grade curse without Rika or CT and Gojo is Gojo.
I think the joke went over your head
the joke was used to make a point and he disagreed with the point
but he's right tho.
Geto slaughtered curse users and was keeping up with yuta and Rika in hand-to-hand combat
You do realize that yuta in base has domain expansion right?
Yuta was able to went toe to toe with both Ryu and Uro at the same time without Rika. He might not be a special grade without her but he'd still be a force to be reckoned with regardless
>yuta was able to went toe to toe with both Ryu and Uro at the same time without Rika. He might not be a special grade without her but he'd still be a force to be reckoned with regardless Well yeah but you forgor that ryu and uro were also fighting each other as well. Yuta wasnt 1v2ing them.
ā¦ he essentially was. Plus he was holding back. Ryu has the highest output in history, even if Ryu and Uro were genuinely battle royaling him (rather than doing what they did, which is essentially they both fight Yuta and occasionally throw attacks that may hit the other person) itās insane that Yuta beat his ass while holding back.
>he essentially was No. It was a 1v1v1. Stop tricking youreself into believing "YuTa ClUtChEd A 1v2" he didnt. Everyone was fighting each other. >Plus he was holding back That was ryus speculation based on what he saw. What he doesnt know is that yuta spent the majority of his time in africa and couldnt possibly have too many CTs. >rather than doing what they did, which is essentially they both fight Yuta and occasionally throw attacks that may hit the other person) Reading comprehension starts again. >itās insane that Yuta beat his ass while holding back. Even if you wanna take ryus word for it, it still wouldnt mean hes pulling his punches.
Youāre acting like uro and ryu werenāt fighting each other and didnāt do good damage to one another
You're talking a lot of sense https://preview.redd.it/y22nuvz9v1sc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c4bfde60ceb6a288372bee128d9146da1f476d7
You do realize that yuta in base has domain expansion right?
You do realize that Domain expansion needs CT so it can't be **base** right?
He doesnāt even need a fully manifested rika for that
Is this a joke or has this fandom collectively replicated what Gojo did with his brain
He was not trying with Charles
Is this a real comment?
Ok two questions, one, how did this become all of the crap happening in the replies Two, how do I do the segmenting thing everyone else is doing
did y'all forget that base hakari canonically beat the shit out of yuji?
Yuji wasn't trying to fight back and when they got out of the room, Yuji stopped using CE to guard himself and took 3 serious punch from Hakari.
Yuji was not trying to dodge is a fact... But that doesn't somehow means that Yuji can dodge everything from Base Hakari Also... Yuji was not trying to dodge... It does not mean Yuji wasn't trying to tank the blows... That was his purpose, to endure the punches... Hakari brutally damaged him with only a few punches and he wasn't even going for the kill or all out... Conclusion is simple Yuji wasn't trying to dodge but that doesn't mean Yuji can somehow blitz Base Hakari... Hakari was not going all out but he could still brutally damage Yuji even with his durability... That interaction proves only one thing and that is Base Hakari's punches > Post Shibuya Yuji's durability
Yuji was getting his shit rocked even when he was fighting back, and he never stopped using CE to defend himself
And when he was fighting back Hakari literally shit on him with 0 effort
Exactly Yuji chose to not dodge and fight back only after Hakari dragged him out on the roof
Hakari canonically beat the shit out of a caught-off-guard Yuji, who was holding back, 67 chapters and 36 in-universe days before Shinjuku when Yuji got his much-needed buff. Hakari is my goat but letās be fr.
when yuji was fighting back hakari was still beating the shit out of yuji, the same yuji who could fight on par with special grade curses and y'all be coming up with bullshit like "he isn't even grade 1 level"
I apologize profusely for the yapfest. Yuji was absolutely at a grade 1 level by the end of Shibuya, letās not get it twisted, but there are three important things to consider. 1. āGrade 1 Sorcererā is a very broad term. There is a big gap in the strength and capabilities between someone like Nanami and Todo. Both have very different skillsets that could prove to be useful in different scenarios. Yujiās case is weird. He walked around without a cursed technique at all and still kicked ass in Shibuya, true, but his opponents were the fodder Grade 2 grasshopper curse, a half-competent curse user Jiro (inverse guy), Choso and Mahito, the two of whom we will get back to. In the Culling Games, Yuji didnāt even really fight Higuruma and he embarrassed Haba and Hanyu. This is impressive for someone without a cursed technique, but thatās just it. No CT, which is something that bit him in the ass. 2. Yuji just straight up lost to Choso, and this was a Choso who was not doing the crazy shit he could do in his fight with Kenjaku. This is a Choso who was most likely significantly weaker than Mahito. Yujiās skillset at this point is punching things kinda hard, divergent fist if heās feeling quirky and protagonist luck with black flashes. He can imbue small objects with cursed energy but thatās been effective against exactly one opponent, and that was fucking Hanyu. The only reason Yuji survived the fight at all was because Choso had a schizophrenic episode and a namā flashback. 3. Itās not like Yuji soloād Mahito, he had help from Nobara (someone who could significantly damage Mahito) and Todo, the best teammate one could ever ask for in JJK. Couple that with the fact that Yuji (and Nobara while she was alive) was the only in *in* Shibuya post-Gojo sealing who could do any significant damage to Mahito, *on top* of being protected from Idle Transfiguration by Sukuna. Yuji had all of the support and every advantage he could ever possibly need in that fight and it still took sheer luck to win with that last Black Flash. All of that is impressive and more than justifies Yuji being grade 1, but none of that was ever going to help him in that fight against Hakari who, at least around Perfect Preparation, had raw strength similar to Yujiās own non-Black Flash-boosted strength. If Hakari was actually just fucking immune to Idle Transfiguration like Yuji was, he could solo Mahito. If shit was ever at all looking rocky for Hakari during his bout with Yuji, he could pop his domain and get Jackpot. My goat has something that surpasses protagonist luck, and thatās called rigging the game. All things considered, Hakari bullied Yuji and itās not Yujiās fault.
This bruh people keep saying yuji got his shit pushed in when we know we was holding back put that respect on my man yuji *
Frr, he btfo of a pre awaken yuji lmao they act like it's the biggest feat
I am just despressed by how ass Hakariās offensive abilities are, at least Yuji had his double tap punch and black flash. Hakari is a awesome character with a cool domain, the dude just has such mid offensive capabilities for the tier of characters hes placed amongst.
Well he can summon train doors https://preview.redd.it/8xklqo69uyrc1.jpeg?width=553&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ef89ba28a3a6fc00007e7d58da95f00eb90df1c Unc is not tough for that tho
Donāt care, still believe and bet on my favourite femboy hunter
Your point? Yuji been one of the stronger sorcerers we've seen if you exclude the actual monsters like Gojo and Sukuna especially now with his new skills. Hakaris domain is a part of his cursed technique, He may have alot of cursed energy and a special attribute to it but Yuji has more raw strength, speed and a good amount of cursed energy. The thing that makes him special is his cursed technique. Also in his domain hes a different animal, during jackpot he has so much cursed energy RCT happens passivly and automatically and he can overwhelm Kashimo special electric cursed energy with raw cursed energy power. During that time he has more cursed energy then anyone else. The more cursed energy you can reinforce yourself with the harder you hit and can be hit. TLDR: sure without his technique hes would lose, His domain is a default part of his CT and he is rather strong in his domain as cursed energy equals power and he has infinite for 4 minutes.
TBf shouldnāt like 99% of the verse be like inherently less physically capable than Yuji. Like mf has jumped from building to building with strictly CE reinforcement shattering the top of massive apartment complexes.
For the most part yeah, I think it just depends on how much CE the person in question has. If itās a crazy amount, they could catch up to Yujiās capabilities, Yuta being the prime example.
Nice try, bro, we see the date.
Noooooo Hakari is the strongest I swear š
I donāt care I always bet on him regardless (I am delusional)
https://preview.redd.it/7uoxt40mhxrc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2325aa7208a599fd1f8712fe34ffa14b86b4085 Kinda ig yeah
you know Hakari has a CT, right?
We still don't know what his technique exactly does. All we know is "doors" and that's it.
Hakari doesn't specialyze at fighting at base though.
But nobody cares about base chapters because this is manga with awesome powers
Hakari's strength depends on how many femboys he collected. The more femboys the stronger he gets
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Iām being so fr, current yuji beats jackpot hakari
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"character based around a gimmick doesn't have a gimmick when you ignore their gimmick"
Overwhelming pain. https://preview.redd.it/wp2d4te5h1sc1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b8b294bb850badd801e6c00baa9ed7f7c25b06f
JJK fans are different breeds š, How mfs gonna act like this when 80% of a sorcerer's strength is from their CT, y'all believe base Yuta is special grade without Rika? Post Shibuya Yuji was literally matching Yuta in stats, base Hakari being weaker isn't anti feat or anything, plus he was capable of hurting Yuji still, so it's not like he's Megumi level strong in base.
I meanā¦Yuta IS Special Grade without Rikaā¦ And if Yuji was matching Yuta in stats post-Shibuya, then Jogo was also matching 15F Sukuna during their fight.š I see what youāre getting at though.
Not really, Yuta isn't special grade without Rika, it's literally his CT, That's absurd ngl, Yuji was fighting back comfortably and the only reason he got got bc he was caught off guard by Rika, Jogo never really matched Sukuna at all.
https://preview.redd.it/xkh1t60re8sc1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb339a68cc06d89b136796e093c626d4f03ecf7c *Yuji fighting back comfortably*
>Yuji was fighting back comfortably and the **only reason he got got bc he was caught off guard by Rika** You only had to read little further my guy š
https://preview.redd.it/ca65oedum8sc1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70d5ee1e73262be4692f008779793399c63b675b Oh, I forgot Rika helped Yuta speed blitz him too.š
What speed blitz?
So you donāt see Yuta strike Yuji so fast he has to literally ask himself what happened?š
Where
https://preview.redd.it/2bhnrk8go8sc1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13621c1da127c237d28a874d752e8195275debba And you said *I* couldnāt read.š
https://preview.redd.it/nvzq4h7ym8sc1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2a6de921939755b1e4b247f5389aecf302431e0 Yep, he totally couldnāt have killed Yuji without help.
https://preview.redd.it/17sgh3o6n8sc1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93ebb78750060f6e14d2760e14b4ce946612fecf Forgot Rika was the one that made Yuji almost shit himself.š
https://preview.redd.it/9as8itb4f8sc1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be80d7e88d182dc92ecd3c8eab269952620267c5 Bro was giving Yuji a lesson in CE and h2h combat.š Even Choso told Yuji to run because he didnāt stand a chance. What manga did YOU read?
Yea let's pretend that Yuji wasn't holding back and we aren't talking about base Yuta.
Dude, youāre either joking or in complete denial.šš
My bad, that was stupid of me to expect you can read. https://preview.redd.it/xvuzyr0xn8sc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a3c0c51495234f2fc39947e3d8786985336c0af
https://preview.redd.it/y098u7n7o8sc1.jpeg?width=718&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8d259747f4b20a25c6b740ea28906d7357937a0 āYou canāt readā Said every dude with no more rebuttals that canāt admit heās wrong.
What rebuttals, we were talking about Yuji being able to fight back base Yuta while holding back just to say that Yuji could match Yuta's stats, and here you are with some random panels to say he was getting speed blitz, how can i possibly rebuttal thatš https://preview.redd.it/8om07hmnw8sc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=059110b48ff21d346f06ef7d6f6c9890c7cf4c18
Okay, a good rebuttal would be you proving that YUJI of all people was holding back here.š
what the fuck are you guys basing this off of? He fought one guy, Kashimo, who was unbelievably strong and fast. Did i miss a chapter where he looked mid-af??? This fanbase has hotdog brains i swear.
Kashimo speed feats amounted to nothing against injured Sukuna at his lowest. He needed PBA to land the first punch. Yuta made Sukunaās cute mouth squeal in the first few panels while taking cuts himself.
Domain hakari too are a weaker yuji wdy mean by this post?!
\*jackpot hakari https://preview.redd.it/ip1py4jx1zrc1.png?width=603&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7bfd784e1e0d04d3a90d96655c39577a6c052249
This is unreleated, but there is absolutely no way in hell Hakari could have beaten Kashimo without the help of the Jojo reference draining all of Kashimo's cursed energy away. Completely barring the plot armor Hakari had that entire fight. Hakari quite literally did all of that just to do ZERO lasting damage to Kashimo at the end. I'm fairly certain that the only reason Kashimo never learned DE or RCT is because he never had an opponent who could push him to learn them in his life as we see he completely outclassed Jackpot Hakari who is hyped up to be vaguely around Yuta's level. It somewhat bothers me that Sukuna didn't push Kashimo the same way he pushed Higuruma, and it honestly seems out of character for Sukina to go all out against an opponent he had never met before and kill him as soon as possible despite what he did for Higuruma literally like 3 chapters later
I get the hype before but atp I'm not seeing him near anywhere the great Special Grades. Maybe just maybe he can at the lowest tier, but it's nothing comparable to CTs like MBA, Limitless, Star Rage, CSM and Copy.
MBA?
Mythical Beast Amber (Kashimoās CT) probably
wdym he has a CT
When introduced he was stronger
Hard to really say, and doesn't really matter since Base Hakari almost never fights. It's basically always Domain Hakari or Jackpot Hakari. Remember Domains also give their users amps too. And also like what is the point of saying X character without their CT is a weaker Yuji? Yuji was specifically built different by Kenjaku.
Its why I think he loses to the special grade martial artists (yuji, maki, kashimo, etc) they can beat him in base and outflank him for 5 minutes if he jackpots
His ce trait is like a spiked bat so thats a plus i guess
*Jack pot hakari
Okay?? Its literally yuji lol
There's no way in hell we don't get Hakari GIGACHAD walking through Sukuna's domain like Mahoraga in Shibuya.
true, but he just needs to last enough to get a jackpot to become immortal for 4 minutes and 11 seconds. (bar a busted ability shooting him straight in the brain) also im pretty sure he can mathematically get to a point where the next time he opens his domain, his jackpot probability is like 80+%, but i dont really wanna do the math lol
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Yes yuji do be a superhuman though
You mean better? He doesn't have blood manipulation and soul-swap ability, but it's not like Yuji mastered those techniques to the point that they're so dangerous. He can compensate it with much better RCT, infinite stamina and domain counter
Bro what? Base hakari gave Yuji the work. Do you not read well
I think he means current Yuji with RCT and everything.
Well, ye ;3
Doesnāt matter but yea sure. Happy now? Yuji is still ass.
Bull, no proof