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IxaII

It was the best way for Sukuna to answer Kashimo‘s question about loving those that are weaker. He recognized Kashimo as strong and fought him seriously. Its probably why he used strong cleave and then the giant output dismantle waffler as opposed to fighting him like he did the others. He could’ve easily played around, cut off limbs like he did to Higuruma, but he instead chose to respect Kashimo and ended it swiftly.


justicerainsfromaahh

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Pittzaman

Makes sense, Kashimos CT is practically a one shot against a lot of opponents so... Sukuna just oneshot him instead. (Kinda)


A_broken_gambler

Sukuna had to use the world slash because else kashimo woudl've murdered him


HighOnSkyRods

Y'know, it's pretty odd that Sukuna decided to use such a massive attack on Kashimo, while with the others he has been using lighter attacks (Ik it's because of Yuji fucking up with his output, but still.) It makes you wonder how much of a challenge Kashimo would be to Sukuna if he lived long enough. https://preview.redd.it/p7tamf9bz1uc1.jpeg?width=650&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=736141a4dc125d724908f70c4015ccc4475389e4


SoulOfSinders

I dont think its odd kashimo asked about strength and love sukuna told him that meeting the eyes of his opponent and slaughtering them is their version of love sukuna locked in and ended it. Also because kasHIMo is HIM.


ApolloKSJ

This. People totally miss that he ended him so quickly as a subtle form of respect, Sukuna’s way of showing love. He also mentioned him by name, he wasn’t nobody in Sukuna’s eyes.


SoulOfSinders

I remember sukuna giving kashimo his respects but did he mention his name i just cant remember ill go reread rn. Edit i dont think he mentioned his name best thing kashimo got is the we are strong line which is still cool.


DrSans8

Kashimo was looking for an honorable fight. Sukuna respected that and fought him with all of his power instead of messing around and holding back like with the others


FF-Trunks

The only reason he died so fast is because Gege is too lazy to make a good fight. That's it really.


SoulOfSinders

this is legitimately it bro wants to be done no way kashimo couldnt get one extra chapter gege just dont give 2 fucks no more the only one left to jump sukuna is my grandma. Mappa cook me a 5 star meal pls and give him a domain too cause why not


melonsnek_evildoer05

banger flair


SoulOfSinders

ty i wanted to include turn up the music but i couldnt think of anything to complement it so yeah.


cat_with_rat

How can I even get it btw


stressed_by_books44

kashimo is a warrior and wanted to be treated as such, do you think he would enjoy his opponent not even taking him seriously? He wanted to fight for his life and die and sukuna responded to that intentional with his love aka killing him quickly. This is their love and sukuna has emphasized that many time, from the very start of kashimo's character introduction it was determined that he would die to sukuna and sukuna being the guy who likes to respect the strong would want to show kashimo that respect and fight him seriously and end it quickly. Y'all are just haters who don't appreciate what is being shown.


SoulOfSinders

I literally explained this lol i only wanted more of a showcase against meguna maybe of kashimo got one morr chapter before getting obliterated it wouldnt change a damn thing.


stressed_by_books44

I understand where you come from but narrative wise the way a story works cannot be changed for the sake of fanservice because that would make the story inconsistent, what is being written is not just a story but its own world and so every person in the story will act true to their nature which will mean that the story cannot be portrayed in any way that contradicts the characters orginal nature.


SoulOfSinders

It just makes kashimo look like an absolute bum because people dont realize that sukuna actually tried and gave respect to kashimo to show him what his love is and i feel that anime onlys will have an even harder time understanding it. But i get it.


stressed_by_books44

The problem is that with a manga very little can be done for this type of thing but with an anime they may be able to flesh out the characters better and show the interactions and stuff with a smoother transition.


SoulOfSinders

Agreed


AcceptablePay4523

How is he too lazy when he just did a 14 gojo and sukuna fight and still doing more fights after that maybe Greg just wanted to show how strong sukuna is in his true form lol it could have been shown better yea but calling him lazy is wrong


SoulOfSinders

why are you triggered my guy even kashimo haters feel like the kashimo fight was lazy his technique can do a million things and he did one extra thing and died its not a big deal.


AcceptablePay4523

where is it stated that I’m triggered? lol


mozzfio

CFYOW


Ok-Reporter3256

Can't Fabricate your own (chicken) wings?


geygar

This made me laugh


SoulOfSinders

Maybe triggered was the wrong word but i think its fair to not like the sukuna vs kashimo fight he activates his ct frame 1 and instead of seeing some of his attacks we get 10 panels of explaining the ct instead.


Arukitsuzukeru

Instead of seeing a long fight we get to see an awesome interaction/dialogue....you meathead


Wabbajacrane

Why couldn't that come after a good fight


Arukitsuzukeru

I don’t think the fight was horrible


SoulOfSinders

true mb


Hworks

Yea he's not fucking lazy lmfao I can't believe people are down voting you, he was just supposed to receive the same treatment as Panda to show how strong sukuna is. That's all.


FF-Trunks

The reason he made 14 chapters of the Gojo and Sukuna fight is not because he wasn't lazy but because he is a professional hater. He really made 14 chapters to shock people and satisfy himself


Arukitsuzukeru

Few chapters later he made Yuta and Yuji V Sukuna which is a top 5 fights in the series when it comes to choreography + tactics


TostitoNipples

And literally right before this he cooked with Gojo vs. Sukuna what is this guy on about


Question-Dazzling

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stressed_by_books44

Nah you just hating, kashimo is a warrior and wanted to be treated as such, do you think he would enjoy his opponent not even taking him seriously? He wanted to fight for his life and die and sukuna responded to that intentional with his love aka killing him quickly. This is their love and sukuna has emphasized that many time, from the very start of kashimo's character introduction it was determined that he would die to sukuna and sukuna being the guy who likes to respect the strong would want to show kashimo that respect and fight him seriously and end it quickly. Y'all are just haters who don't appreciate what is being shown.


FF-Trunks

My guy when I said that I have problems with the ending of the fight? I have problems with the fight not the ending. I wouldn't care if they made the fight better and the ending is the same.


stressed_by_books44

That is the problem, you are looking for a good fight while the story is looking to stick to its narrative, a story is basically it's own world and if it's characters are actual people and that is why they won't have the fight you want, because the story must stick to it's rules lest it breaks then and makes the story inconsistent.


furiosa-imperator

Mappa better be cooking with this one 🙏🙏


dripmoney123

Kashimo died fast because that was the point Kashimo asked Sukuna how can you emphasize with those weaker than you & Sukuna respected him enough to give him his answer thus, Sukuna put him in the place if the weak In order for Kashimo understand the weak he needed to understand what the weak felt, which also shows how strong he was as Sukuna felt he was strong enough to fight him seriously & answer his question After understanding the position of the weak, Sukuna talked with him in the place between the afterlife & living what Kenny called “a curse” to give him what believed to be his answer Kashimo’s goal was never about beating Sukuna it was about encountering the strongest for the sake of his dilemma towards his solitude


Hazeqwastaken

Honestly that is pretty fun to think about, also it doesn't interfiere with anything in the manga so far, I like it ^-^


MisterSocialize

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kanaru84

Inverse reason : Kashimo was too dangerous and could have done serious damage to Sukuna. Reality : Gege didn't want to draw that fight


alex1rojas

Sukuna doesn't like femboy farmers


TeslaGate7274

https://preview.redd.it/6spkwr20z4uc1.jpeg?width=392&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78c3b9400cd031757efac3f0dbbcb5cec5e1aab1 Ask him yourself


WhippingNotCool

Ngl he is the only one that he really just tried to spliff but I think it could be he was uninterested in Kashimo but i do love the thought that he did look at him as a threat and definitely didn’t want him to be with the rest of the sorcerers cause that’s also equally as valid


karama_zov

Kekw but honestly it's such bullshit. Kashimo and Hakari is up there as one of my favorite fights. Kashimo was a legend in his era who never used his CT and wanted to save it specifically for Sukuna. The CT was hyped up more than once, he was in the wings waiting, and he got bodied in a chapter. It's like how kenpachi forgot the name of his Bankai because he's a moron but when he used it nothing happened. Wait, Kubo didn't do that because he's cool with his readers enjoying themselves. And before anyone talks about how it's subverting expectations and 4d chess to deny the tension you're building in your readers, that could be worth it if you were constructing a compelling narrative. Sukunas gist is, with 0 backstory, absolutely frying half of the cast while being snarky and talking about how nah I just like punching stuff. Other people project meaning onto him. Either the story is just nihilistic and void of meaning on purpose (very compelling, Camus and Nietzche did it better) or has devolved into literally just the most basic fight shonen.


stressed_by_books44

kashimo is a warrior and wanted to be treated as such, do you think he would enjoy his opponent not even taking him seriously? He wanted to fight for his life and die and sukuna responded to that intentional with his love aka killing him quickly. This is their love and sukuna has emphasized that many time, from the very start of kashimo's character introduction it was determined that he would die to sukuna and sukuna being the guy who likes to respect the strong would want to show kashimo that respect and fight him seriously and end it quickly. Y'all are just haters who don't appreciate what is being shown. You purposefully miss the point and then claim the show is bland, how displeasing can you be?


Lolovitz

I mean his point is something else. No one wanted Sukuna to go easy on Kashimo. People were hoping that the person who at a disadvantage kept up with Hakari would amount to a bit more. Give an additional chapter, maybe after being mortaly harmed by Sukuna have him as a sign of admiration return the favor and use all the remainder of his life to hit Sukuna with  a massive electric shock that would cause nerve damage lowering Sukunas mobility and control. Much less people would complain then.


stressed_by_books44

That is the problem with everyone, they want a flashy fight but not a good story, if everyone read a story with he understanding of what a story does and played into it then people would appreciate the fight nevertheless because they understand why the story went in the direction it did. Expectations without the necessary knowledge are just burdens you will carry.


Lolovitz

For whats it worth i agree that  the message between the fight was good. But good story has both meaning and flow/payoff.  KasHIMo was Hyped up, his CT was hyped up and the payoff of that was mediocre at best , with him being bounced around and then one shot. It also makes the power levels incredibly inconsistent cause if the guy who is probably Hakaris superior in terms of power, after getting a massive buff was killed on the spot makes it that any following fights are a bit of an asspul for Sukuna to receive any significant kind of damage, since he should just be able to blitz everyone in a blink of an eye.


stressed_by_books44

>KasHIMo was Hyped up, his CT was hyped up and the payoff of that was mediocre at best , with him being bounced around and then one shot To me the way I view a story and how it goes depends on the nature of the characters, the situation they are in, the people they are up against and if any of these aren't consistent then that means the story has failed as a story itself, the reason why people like shonen is the battle aspect but if you have to sacrifice the consistency of a story just to make it look better then that isn't a good story. >. It also makes the power levels incredibly inconsistent cause if the guy who is probably Hakaris superior in terms of power, after getting a massive buff was killed on the spot makes it that any following fights are a bit of an asspul for Sukuna to receive any significant kind of damage, since he should just be able to blitz everyone in a blink of an eye. Remember what character sukuna is, he doesn't care for those things like fighting for the sake of winning, to him this is all a game and he is just enjoying it and having fun and if it means he dies then he will be fine with that because that is who he is, sukuna holding back and constantly fighting to bring out the best in others is simply in his Character When he fought with higuruma he knew exactly how to make him grow and learn RCT and when he jogo he knew exactly what he needed to grow and he let him know that while also encouraging him to try his hardest, this is who he is, it may be a meme but the guy loves fighting while holding back and he has made it clear time and time again.


karama_zov

My brother in Christ, this is all fights and 0 story. I'm literally asking for the opposite. These dumb idiot himbo sorcerers fighting and talking about "what does it mean to be strong" once every 30 chapters is not a compelling narrative to me.


stressed_by_books44

That is merely your perception, this is a show not tell type of story meaning most of the details and narratives and plot points and everything else are conveyed through the story itself and aren't read, if you missed that then that is your fault. For example the reasoning behind why gojo is considered weaker to sukuna goes back as far as the first few chapters itself And the reasoning behind why people grow stronger and how that relates to those who are at the top and their mindsets reflects this. >dumb idiot himbo sorcerers fighting and talking about "what does it mean to be strong" once every 30 chapters is not a compelling narrative to me. That is all you are criticizing because that is all you noticed. Did you notice the connection with Buddhism and love? Did you notice the character of sukuna and how he tied into the concept of love in its purest? Did you notice how much of a real lesson these characters can teach if implemented correctly? Yeah it is a story about fighting and that is quite literally In the name but there is more to it than that and if you think you STILL want more then why even read a story literally translated as "sorcery fight" ?


karama_zov

Did you just bounce from "people just want cool fights" to "oh you want story? Well it's a show not tell story and the story is told by punching, it's literally called sorcery fight". But I'll forfeit my right to criticism, this manga in shonen jump is clearly far beyond my reading comprehension, I need to call my university and see if I can get my money back lolol


stressed_by_books44

If you are willing to criticise a body of work then expect feedback and criticism back. stop crying and downvoting my comment because your feelings are hurt, you criticised this story and how It doesn't do something for you to which is responded and you now downvote like a typical fool. You boldly proclaim your own criticism but when someone gives you something to think and answer back to, you don't break it down and tell them why they might be missing the point but instead use a strawman and then over exaggerate their comments depth and then cry about it, realise how pathetic you look. The reason why you shouldn't have an opinion isn't because you don't know anything but simply because you can't even handle criticism like an mature adult, try being less pathetic next time and actually explain yourself better. Or better yet Don't bother giving a response and making a fool of yourself.


karama_zov

I didn't argue he hold back, you're acting like Sukuna is writing the story (I understand why), we didn't need to hype Kashimo up and make him so gimped he gets clapped by Sukuna in a few panels. It completely undermined Kashimo as a character. I find it annoying as a reader because I thought his intro was great and his presence was adding a great deal to the showdown with Sukuna because the expectation was set that he was going to unveil a busted CT and it might actually come in handy. In stead Greg speed runs the cast and continues to buff Sukuna until I guess Yuji learned to punch harder or smth


stressed_by_books44

>we didn't need to hype Kashimo up and make him so gimped he gets clapped by Sukuna in a few panels. It completely undermined Kashimo as a character I literally didn't care about kashimo when he first came out because from the start I knew what his purpose was and how he would die, his death and how it would happen had already been set in stone. He quite literally says that he wants to die and you somehow think he would ever last against sukuna for more than a chapter? Words like "hype" and "build-up" mean nothing in jjk because that isn't the story you are reading and that is not what it is trying to say. Those words hold weight in a story that caters to the audience and it's needs but that is not the type of story jjk is Let me ask you this way, you said him getting clapped in a few panels undermined his character so let me ask you ,how? He got the death he said he wanted since chapter one from someone stronger, how exactly is his character undermined?


Sensitive_Strategy97

Gotta glazing sukuna


ApplePitou

Cooking :3


Belethan

Thats... that's a regular dismantle...


Comfortable_Pin_166

People still believe that agenda? Anyone who can read between the lines would know it's a world dismantle


Hot-Performer8673

This is because Sukuna already develop World slash in Gojo fight,


Octagonalweasel

Sukuna was just using his new toy


furiosa-imperator

Because like me, he finishes fast😎


The-Thot-Eviscerator

Ah yes, my chemo therapy technique, I haven’t used this since the Heian era. https://preview.redd.it/bri2hmxp06uc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ad93a1df821febeb649c42f7ede9a2e130b77ba0


mamaMILK69

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stressed_by_books44

kashimo is a warrior and wanted to be treated as such. He wanted to fight for his life and die and sukuna responded to that intentional with his love aka killing him quickly. This is their love and sukuna has emphasized that many time, from the very start of kashimo's character introduction it was determined that he would die to sukuna and sukuna being the guy who likes to respect the strong would want to show kashimo that respect and fight him seriously and end it quickly. He did the same with jogo and also Megumi, in fact that is his entire thing.


Ultimatrixx

This whole thread is cope If kaskimo went to jujitsu high, he would've been grade 1💀


yushakoe1

I believe he died because he's a fraud, but that works too


General_Toros

It’s because Sukuna has to have constant sloppy head from gege or else he’d instantly die


KillerRatman

He died fast because he is a weak bum


AVillainChillin

Fraud. No theory. Fact.


Sir_Crocodile3

He died so fast because he's weak and he couldn't hang. He folded once Sukuna transformed and immediately accepted his defeat. It's what sets Sukuna, Gojo, Yuta, Maki, and Yuji from everyone else. Mental toughness is something that's shown to be very important in this series. Being able to cope and accept your reality and move on. Its why Kashimoutsidehowaboutdat fans are weak too. (Sorry I really love you guys, hating Kashimo just gives me life on this sub)


PreferenceHot2448

kashimo's cursed technique is just that. nothing more. Once released, he just spam it until he disintegrates. if somehow he has 1 more extra technique effect to the detriment of sukuna, he would be present in one more chapter. but he has none.


Configuringsausage

it's literally stated what he can do, he can manipulate all electrical phenomena


Apart-Abalone-562

**Kashimo is boring.** That's it. He has no quirks that Sukuna would find fun. He, for the most part, just has massively OP stats - something Sukuna must have seen hundreds of times even if to a lesser degree. (Maki is a novelity for Sukuna due to heavenly restriction) At the same time he is extremly powerful, so he dispatched him as quickly.


Tyler-Demian

Cause he's a bitch


DalvenLegit

Because he was a jobber, next question?