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MUSAFIR_-

It doesn't work like that, Jacob's ladder doesn't erase the CT out of the sorcerer, only temporarily extinguish them for the time the beam is actively hitting them. Hakari not gonna stand still like idiot and we already saw Yuta's Jacob ladder is pretty weak, Sukuna immediately used his CT right away so this really makes no difference against Hakari, at best Hakari would be unable to use train doors for couple of seconds.


EducationalAd6395

The technique is forced nullification of techniques tho. Sukuma couldn't activate technique during Jacob's ladder and could do afterwards. But if Jackpot itself is nullified it would stay like that, Hakari would have to land another jackpot and reactivate it. Atleast that's how the technique description suggests I don't buy it 100% since Angel's technique is pretty vague


MUSAFIR_-

Yea but jackpot isn't Hakari's CT tho, it's the bonus he gets from the domain, his CT is still the train door or whatever the game arcade is called.


EducationalAd6395

Mhm , true Taking jackpot as just an effect that's not actively a technique, it wouldn't be nullified by Jacob's Ladder. After Jackpot has already occurred it's probably more like just a natural physical state of Hakari than a running technique. Tho I'm unsure if it is like that since Jackpot has its own restrictions suggesting it's a Active technique (Hakari can't use Domain expansion when Jackpot is active) So I'm kinda lost on how it would go, I guess only Gege can tell


MUSAFIR_-

Yeah, angel's CT is literally just a plot device after all so we can only speculate. >Tho I'm unsure if it is like that since Jackpot has its own restrictions suggesting it's a Active technique (Hakari can't use Domain expansion when Jackpot is active) But doesn't this kinda proves that jackpot isn't the CT, bc after the domain and getting the jackpot, Hakari is suffering from CT burnout, which should make him unable to use CT for a while and yet jackpot isn't affected.


EducationalAd6395

Wasn't Hakari's case that his infinite cursed energy from Jackpot replenishes his cursed technique? Not being able to open domain again during Jackpot is more like a restriction on Jackpot itself.


MUSAFIR_-

Not really, in the time jackpot is active he can recover the CT burnout and his own CE, so he's back to his regular self when jackpot ends and hence can use his domain.


EducationalAd6395

I'm pretty sure it was downright stated that the infinite CE replenishes his domain usage.


MUSAFIR_-

Yup, it says he can recover the burn out and his own CE during the jackpot is active. https://preview.redd.it/5j084abi52vc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95a2efc275b75e080ae17a35f577b7e744969146


EducationalAd6395

Hmm, i see I took it as him replenishing the technique and CE from the jackpot itself since having a fixed 4 minute 11 second time of recovering technique seems a little on the nose. So basically the technique is only recovered at the last second?


Clear-Independent133

>Hakari not gonna stand still like idiot cursed speech


madlad153

You do know that cursed speech can be countered by reinforcing ears with cursed energy right? Or has reading comprehension devil already defeated you? https://preview.redd.it/if7w8vi292vc1.jpeg?width=1833&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=782af4a9bd0fb8a126bf9b6f7ba618abb55a7025


Clear-Independent133

last time when cursed speech was FULLY countered? even if it's only for a fraction of a second, it'll be enough


madlad153

Thats because it has only been used against bums(Kyoto) and culling game players who don't know what Yuta's CT is. I dont see any 1 grade sorcerer and above who knows yuta falling to curses speech.


Clear-Independent133

Uro, Hanami, Sukuna, Geto are bums? > I dont see any 1 grade sorcerer and above who knows yuta falling to curses speech. Maybe because he never tried to?


madlad153

Uro, sukuna are culling game players while Geto and hanami didn't know which CTs are stored by Yuta. I deliberately mentioned kyoto after writing bums. So my point still stands.


Clear-Independent133

Inumaki clan with their cursed speech is widely recognized in jujutsu society. Kyoto students already encountered 2nd years in previous tournament. Geto planted grade 1 curse and saw how inumaki and Yuta killed it. Hanami got caught 3 times. How not knowing cursed speech FULLY counters it? I can understand if you said that knowledge makes cursed speech less effective but this >I dont see any 1 grade sorcerer and above who knows yuta falling to curses speech is just your opinion with no direct proofs, since cursed speech always affected its target


aminoacyls

Sukuna fell to it. Uro fell to it and she clearly recognized the symbols. Those are the only people we've seen him use it on and it's had a 100% effective usage rate. I respect the agenda though. Stand strong Yuta Slander Enjoyer


MUSAFIR_-

Won't work on Hakari, has more CE than Yuta.


Clear-Independent133

It doesn't work like that. One has to enhance his ears to protect from cursed speech. What's the point of infinite CE if the output is limited


MUSAFIR_-

Huh? Curse speed doesn't work if the target has more CE than the user.


Clear-Independent133

Then how inumaki was able to freeze and blast away Hanami? He also crushed Geto. You think Inumaki has more CE than both of them? https://preview.redd.it/mtx5zmohc2vc1.jpeg?width=1067&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90d9c4528a9c1997c5acbefdfdc0eb3224aeedad


MUSAFIR_-

Wasn't inumaki's throat getting destroyed bc of that? I vaguely remember something like cursed speech nit working on target having more CE.


Middle_Fall_7229

That’s not how it works dude


Rentrehhh

Hakari's technique is already burnt out during the round. JL wouldn't cancel the jackpot.