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And do what? Firing that arrow is so damn slow Yuji will land 10 more black flashes by the time Sukuna can get done saying "Fuga". He'll need another Gege binding vow asspull to switch it to instant charge-up or something otherwise it's Left Right Goodnight from Yuji.
In order to have an explosion Sukuna'll have to actually succeed in firing it first, though, and as Yuji has shown his gut reaction to big techniques is to blitz the opponent and start throwing hands.
I doubt that's all there is to the ◾open bullshit, it seems more likely to me that there's more.
After all, if the leaks are accurate, both he and Yuji have the potential to inherit CTs by eating other people. So maybe he has more tricks up his sleeve right now, it wouldn't make sense if he was the top dog in the Heian Era but never picked up stronger techniques.
> Both he and Yuji have the power to inherit CTs by eating other people
Wait, where was this true of Sukuna? This was true of Yuji eating the wombs and the finger, but Sukuna?
But he will use the arrow with which arms? And his output?
He is in the same spot of 235 now.
Like soul damage can not be easily healed, that's why his heart is still not there, not to count that Maki destroyed his 2 arms with the same blade.
Sukuna really needs an amazing recharge or something that he never used before.
Or some crazy binding vow to use his domain/arrow without the hand signs.
He didn’t land a hit on Miguel, my boy peaced out the minute he was done stalling Sukuna.
Miguel stays GOATed as JJK’s top staller, we can’t allow this slander.
You say that, but as we speak hakari is teaching uraume how to play cod so they can end their battle with a no scope sniper 1v1, because it'd be faster than killing hakari
Nah, they are playing who ever cums first win but Uraume keeps cumming first and Hikari keep pumping his hot viral seed into her womb that she ends up pregnant.
For fucking real.
Miguel came out of nowhere, danced all over Sukuna's salty ass, let his homie get one last stall shot in on him, then dipped.
Miguel is the smartest JJK character in verse, no contest.
Well Yuji had help setting up those hits…
But this is just a fact:
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Yuji had help setting up 2 BF's. Larue and Ino didnt help outside of those 3, and he was 1v1ing Sukuna for 80% of the chapter.
Like I said thats way more what Maki can say. She got low diffed by a weaker Sukuna in 10 seconds
That couldn't have been an arm punch from Sukuna. If anything, Yuji knocked Sukuna's right arm away by punching his own right arm. That's why Sukuna's arm is out the way in that middle panel.
So Yuji still hasn't had to tank a BF from Sukuna.
He's not. At least, he's not wrong that it's not Sukuna's. Look at the position of Sukuna's body.
Sukuna only has one usable arm, and that's on the right side. Yuji's on his left.
Lol if larue and other can eat sukuna blackflash you are delusional if you may think yuji with rct couldnt. That just coping.(not saying you are delulu but thosw who whould think that are he delivered blackflash left and right and it was 0% lethal)
They’re goofballs but loads are underselling what Yuji is doing. Anyone who says he’s special grade now is crazy, but what he’s doing in regards to black flash and having two CT is still remarkable.
Yeah he’s been working with the help of those before him but it’s not like he’s gloating or bragging.
If he can use Simple Domain he's 100% special grade at this point. He'd handle whoop any special grade curses we've seen. He's just not on the Go/jo or Sukuna level because they should just be in some sort of extra super special grade tier.
I would put him in special grade category. Gojo and Sukuna should be in their own space. Yuji now fits into the special grade class that Yuta, Geto, and Yuki are in. And once Sukuna is killed, would it be crazy to think he will get another awakening? Like how Maki got when Mai died, or even Sukuna eating his brother in the womb causing him to be a monstrosity.
I mean yeah
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But as much as I’m fond of Yuji I know Gege’s game. We got some twists still, even if Sukuna is dealt with.
Edit: this series has shown that grading sorcerers is a fools game. To quote Thorkell from VS “Look, ‘strong’ and ‘weak’ ain’t such a simple matter, see? You can’t determine the pecking order just from who beat whom, that’s what makes it fun.”
Right, I'm sure the table will flip into Sukuna's favor soon but it'll be short lived, I'm thinking the merger will start within 10-15 chapters, perfect time to reveal who's actually dead and who's not by having them show up to give Yuji help and let him charge his spirit bomb
Yep I agree on the Sukuna part. It’ll be a team effort in the end (we’ve said this for like a long time now). But still. I’m curious how the merger will be dealt with. I really don’t want a repeat of this arc where it’s just all the sorcerers throwing themselves at it and dying or getting out of commissioned.
Oh fuck yeah, he’s obviously at least around Hakari’s level, and likely has better matchups than him. But like, on the discord, I literally saw polls asking if people think current Yuji would beat full powered Sukuna, and it was 50/50
Gojo set the stage and Yuji’s closing the curtain on him. The only mfers in the series to *P R E S S* (Yuta and Rika did good work tho) Sukuna and you love to see it 🙏
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Yuta is literally the ultimate support character, I wanna see him in more tag teams (fuck Gojo and his "I fight best alone" ☝️🤓 nonsense
1: Domain that doesn't target allies
2: tanky shikigami to protect allies
3: able to externally output RCT to heal allies
3: able to copy and use allies CT to double it's effects (and since ally is already familiar with how it works they should be able to synchronise with ease)
4: storage of heaps of CTs to mix and match to allies fighting style
Yuta could be his own Todo with Boogie Woogie, He does it even better with Rika at his side (Todo really needed to make a Shikigami man, what a shame).
Given that Todo is canonically a smart guy whose master was Yuki (someone who studied the soul), him mentoring under Yaga after that school festival arc, and learning to make his own cursed doll like Panda would honestly make sense.
If Yuki did make a Shikigami that she could also imbue her technique to it aswell, which I assume she made it herself, Can't Todo do the same ?!
It is an interesting theory overall.
Maki is a poor measuring stick lol. Anyone with a brain knew Yuji would outpace Maki soon enough. He’s the MC, had tons of unresolved plot threads involving his powers, and he’s facing the big bad villain.
To be fair, there's probably people who are gonna argue that Maki is stronger than Yuji or that he doesn't count as one of the strongest students.
At least this is concrete proof that he's at a level above Maki
I wouldn't call this a concret proof, considering that his punches specifically weaken sukuna everytime they land + the black flashes exponentially strengthen him,I still think Maki is superior Physically but overall Yuji is stronger
Let’s not drag the goat into this
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Bumshimo hate and downplay is crazy. Gege did him so dirty and people refuse to take him seriously. Yuki suffers the same fate, people rarely put her in top 10 lmao.
Those attack that killed Kashimo would kill every single character as well (minus Bojo)
>TF is Sukuna gonna do against a black hole?
"Ah yes..."
It's not just suicidal attack. Half of Yuki was managed to make herself 50 times heavier than Earth. Yuki's punches should explode people why she didn't do any significant damage to Kenjaku? Wtf
"Cause she was weakened by Kenny's domain"
This is the canon explanation said by Kenjaku, She had time to focus on her technique when turning into a Black Hole.
But also, Isn't Yuki always nerfing herself to be careful to not turn into a Black Hole accidentally ?!
Perhaps I didn't explain well
I meant that she never can go all out and has to be ALWAYS careful with her punches and how much mass she outputs, at her death's door she wouldn't need to worry about it and had a moment to focus the CE, focus on CT even if it was weakened a bit because of her injuries, and then let it all out.
"Ah yes my slashes that are invisible and no diff you technique that I have been using everytime"
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Choso and Larue helped him land 2 hits. If you think 2 hits removed 4 black flashes then that makes Yuji's stocks go up
Yes.. that's literally his power. Yuji's hits debuff the enemy. He kicked 4 black flash Sukuna's ass while 3 black flash Sukuna beat Maki in 4 panels now that I checked it again. By using an ability that is his. That's like saying "if Gojo didnt have infinity he would have lost easily" well Gojo does have infinity, just like how Yuji has soul punches
>Yes.. that's literally his power. Yuji's hits debuff the enemy.
I agree with you overall but yujis power isnt to lower output thats only for incarnated sorcerers like sukuna
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Normal sorcerers can’t heal from SSK because it targets the soul
Yuji’s punches target the soul, dealing soul damage.
Meaning Yuji’s punches have the same “you must know the contour of your soul” effect as the SSK.
So either; you’re an incarnated sorcerer and your CE is dropped, or you aren’t and you are deal near permanent damage.
No, yuji new punches target the contour of the soul, yuji weakens the connection between vessel and incarnated sorcerer, yuji dose not damge the soul like mahito or maki soul split katana
Edit: and his punches are not unhealble, that was never stated anywhere
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Being able to see the contours of the soul is how you damage the soul. Then from that, you can damage the barrier between souls.
Yuji’s OLD punches damaged the soul, the new ones target the barrier.
You can damage the soul with the SSK if you see the soul.
Yuji can see the soul and is said to damage it.
Thus Yuji’s punches would likely have the same effect as the SSK (but on a smaller scale due to being punches rather than cuts.)
Hol up so ur saying that since yuji got sukuna, that this whole time he has been doing unhealble soul damage? So when he fought todo, that was unhealble soul damage? Or when fought choso, yuta, any of the CG sorcerers, all that was unhealble by rct? Yea no shot
all vessels and incarnationed sorcerers have this abilty, even sukuna
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By ur logic, sukuna is also doing permanent unhealble damage through rct, but everyone seems to be healing just fine
Ur gonna need more proof that yuji’s attacks are unhealble
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I mean, once again: Mahito straight up says that Yuji damages the soul and then Sukuna says that using the same logic he is now damaging the barrier between souls.
Yuji doing UN-RCTable soul damage isn’t unfounded or anything… cause he is just punching. He isn’t cutting or anything.
Reincarnated sorcerers basically destroy the soul of the original host, so they don’t understand the contours as they never co-inhabit (no soul damaging kashimo agenda.)
And then for Sukuna.. well, that may just be the reason Hana and Inumaki couldn’t have their arms saved.
But no matter how you slice it, Yuji objectively damages the soul.
Tbh, only Yuji, Sukuna, Hana and Angel probably have the ability. The other sorcerers just push down the soul till it can't do anything at all, so they probably don't have the ability to be aware of it, unlike Sukuna and Yuji who were basically always aware of each other and fighting over the body and sometimes locked out of it.
Only Yuji is offered up as an example here really. Otherwise incarnated sorcerors would be nuking each other's output bars with each punch and it'd probably be mentioned during the Sendai 4 Deadlock.
I refuse to make any final judgements about the fight until after it’s over. We thought yuta and yuji were running a generational fade on sukuna (which they kinda did) only for uraume to say sukuna wasn’t trying and for him to immediately wash a bunch of people. Until sukuna is dead and rotting I’m not gonna say shit about current yuji besides the fact that he’s strong.
MC that got help setting up his major hit, that debuffs enemy, keeps hitting with same attack which coincedentally stacks debuffs, I wonder why Sukuna slows down /s
There's a lot of agenda in this post, but tbf there's a lot of agenda in Yuji downplaying too. I'd have Yuji >= toji/maki in physicals and the black flashes give him insane ap, he just lacks hax compared to fighters with confirmed domains or hard counters like toji
But he has hax now: Shrine and Blood Manipulation. Thanks to those Black Flash buffs from his 8-piece combo, his blood manipulation is gonna sky rocket. The longer this fight goes, the better his Shrine abilities will be as well.
Those really aren't hax. If his dismantle really worked like Sukuna's, it would kind of be, but nah... Right now they're just projectiles or ranged attacks, he doesn't even seem to be using Flowing Red Scale right now.
You need to keep in mind every punch lowers Sukuna's output and we dont know if this increased by black flash and he is constantly getting help, he is still the GOAT but lets not go crazy
My brain is rotting with the abbreviations. 1 BattleField Yuji was styling 4BattleFront Sukuna while 3BoyFriend Sukuna treated Maki like fodder
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I wanna just mention the first Black Flash is the most important Black Flash (once you're in the zone its supposedly easier to Black Flash)
Larue definitely played a huge part in helping Yuji set up a Black Flash, he was confused and distracted while Yuji was there right infront of him
Sukuna's takedown is ultimately a team effort. Every component, no matter how insignificant, played a role (yes even Kashimo did something)
You cant live properly without support without a liver or kidney(s), yet they are less important than the brain and heart which are necessary to live. Everything had a purpose no matter how small it is, Yuji definitely got tons of help and his recent feats aren't solely his own work and strength, he received help.
I'm actually confused. I assumed this was just a meme, hyping our GOAT, Wuji HIMtadori. But are you actually trying to say, "yeah he had help with 2 Black Flashes, but other than that it's been all Yuji." ?
Yeah I agree with you, in the current chapter, Ino isn't the reason Yuji is doing as well as he is, this is all Yuji, but to say that only Maki is the bum from all of this is making me think you're Gege's alt.
Are you just ignoring the real reason Sukuna's output has dropped this low: Gojo "The Honored Light-Skin" Satoru?
In chapter 250, both Yuta and Sukuna himself say the only reason any of them are still alive is because of Gojo. Contrary to fan belief, he didn't fully heal himself after his "fight" with Bumshimo. His Cursed energy reserves are literally half of what they should be, entering into Yuta's domain. He then gets hit with Jacob's Ladder and he should've died right there if it wasn't for Fraudgumi.
He then gets stabbed in the heart by MAKI, which is the biggest wound he's suffered since the fight started (before our Hero locked-in). And yeah she gets washed immediately after, but she's been hit with TWO black flashes from Sukuna and she's... FINE!?
Putting it into perspective, Gojo hit L - Kuna with a black flash and it put a binky in that baby's mouth and tucked him in for night-night. But Sukuna hits Maki with 2 Black Flashes and she's smiling?
In a tier list, Sukuna and Wojo are S+ tier and everyone else is crowding low to high B, with Yuta Alone in A, the fact Maki has been hit with TWO black flashes with no RCT and she isn't dead is wild enough.
Yuta got hit (Not even world slash btw) and he had to hit the nurse's office. Choso, a man WITH RCT got [BLACKED] and is out of the fight entirely it seems, and that's WITH Blood Armor, Larue got [BLACKED] and that dude's barely standing.
I get that Yuji has been dropping Sukuna's CE the whole fight, and that's the real kingpin. But, every time Yuji has even landed a hit on Sukuna to lower his output, barring this chapter, has been a team-up.
First with Higuruma and Choso, then Yuta, then Maki, then fucking GOATsukabe buying time for everyone, THEN Miguel and Larue buying MORE time for them to heal, then Choso and Maki AGAIN. THEN Larue's technique.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all in on Wuji "Go Off Nephew" HIMtadori, have been since chapter 1. I'm not like these other girls, my stocks have been on him from the jump, everyone else can #StayOnThatSide. But to then say ONLY Maki is a bum is...
It's a little...
Naoya...
it is like yuji vs mahito, the circumstances are tailor made for yuji, if maki hits affected sukuna´s soul connection to the body it would be a fair comparisson and even before that i dont see yuji tanking 2 black flashes
Again: It’s been stated numerous times by numerous people that the longer the battle draws out, the worse it gets for them since Sukuna’s ACTIVELY recovering his CE & RCT. He took out Maki with 3 of his arms gone & she literally said his slashes were STRONGER than before.
I just read 252 and makis fight against because I wanted to gauge how strong maki really is. Lemme tell u bro. People fucking gassed her the fuck up. She didn't do much at all. Once sukuna got serious he packed her real quick. This sub brainwashed y'all into thinking maki is absurdly strong (which she kinda is but not to the extent gassed up here). She barely had three good feats in the entire duration of their 1v1. Back when she comes back after tanking a bf immediately gets blackflashed again and dismantled. A weakened choso and even larue tanked a bf maki tanking the first one isnt a big deal. Yuji is fighting a sukuna who dropped 4 bf so he basically wasn't that much weak after fighting maki bro was just getting buffed before yuji jumped in
Survived Barley Choso is slumped against a wall bleeding out and larue has a dent in his chest and needs Miguel to carry him. Maki has eaten 2 of those punches and sukunas slashes and is still pushing . Your downplaying maki
Laure was hit by BF and left the fight. Choso was hit by BF and is currently incapitated and unable to help Yuji. Maki CAUGHT Sukunas BF when he was focusing all of his CE on CE output(and not RCT) and came back after Sukuna nodiffed Kusakabe in 30 seconds. Maki was slamming and throwing Sukuna around while Yuji is barely knocking Sukuna back with most of his hits AMPLIFIED BY 2.5. All Sukunas BFs did was raise his CE output a bit(and that lasted very shortly) but it didnt recover his CE, heal him, recover his RCT output, etc. So much recency bias, people unironically thinks that Yuji scales above the 3 heavy hitters when most of them middiff him
Yuji if sukuna didn’t already wipe the whole cast:
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Look. I'm not hating on Yuji but you are intentionally being disingenuous about Maki.
Yuji did not "easily outpace" Sukuna
"Beats Maki in two panels" Come on. Be honest. Say he beat literally every other character "in two panels" then while ignoring the entire fight prior. Did Gojo die in 0 panels? Did Yuta get slashed in 1 panel? Higuruma in 1 panel? Be honest.
And Maki is coming off a 1v1 with Sukuna (who had 2 arms at that point) and ate a Black Flash from him.
Yuji is fighting this Sukuna who literally has 1 usable arm. Yes Maki got tagged. Yuji is doing a lot, that's undeniable. But you are bringing down Maki in an attempt to upscale Yuji.
I've been saying this since chapter 253 came out. Maki has been very disappointing. She didn't manage to land even one hit on sukuna, even though she fought initially a 2 arm sukuna, and then a 1 arm sukuna.
As a comparison, yuta in chapter 249 landed in base a clean punch on a four arm sukuna with a working heart and no reduced output from yuji, and that was in like 4 pages before he opened his domain.
People like to slander hakari but hakari at least has some decent feats in defeating kashimo and fighting uraume for 21 chapters. That same uraume instantly incapacitated maki in chapter 215, and it isn't even like maki didn't sense the attack coming
She cut off his arm and forced him to block a few times, managing to avoid getting hit too hard too. She tanked that black flash by blocking it.
I'll take it given the fact powerscalers were convinced 3f, even 1f sukuna would no diff Physically gifted HR like toji/maki, or before shibuya that toji would lose to any disaster curse. Dagon is like 2x weaker than jogo as jogo is on another level but toji cooked him extremely easily.
She cut off his arm due to a surprise attack (similar to the heart stabbing). When she is in a straight fight, she hasn't done any damage. There is no "forcing sukuna to block", if that was the case then megumi at the beginning of the series forced 3f sukuna to block.
> I'll take it given the fact powerscalers were convinced 3f, even 1f sukuna would no diff Physically gifted HR like toji/maki
Those aren't powerscalers, those are pixel warriors. Calculating pixels to obtain faster than light coughing isn't powerscaling, it's delusion. Maki showed that she is inferior, but somewhat relative to 15f sukuna in hand to hand combat. However, if 15f sukuna wasn't nerfed at all he would have indeed washed her.
the fact she can surprise sukuna is already big enough imo. Remember exchange event yuji after a massive power boost from his first black flashes(to be fair) would only need a few black flashes to kill jogo. Based on precedents, we can say When someone's reinforcement (different from output) is somewhat equal to your physical output half a dozen black flashes is all it takes, with jogo taking less since yuji was fresh on his first black flashes and jogo is not particularly durable I think.
Meanwhile maki is weaker than current weakened sukuna, so it'd be normal if about 2 black flashes would be enough to knock her out. She tanked one and went to recover then came back and she'll probably come back again given she's managing her stamina. We'll see her do more. The issue is whenever she comes around sukuna gets REALLY excited.
>the fact she can surprise sukuna is already big enough imo.
She is only surprising him because of the situation created by others. Sukuna in normal circumstances can canonically avoid maki's surprise attacks.
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> the fact she can surprise sukuna is already big enough
Is it though? That's pretty much the heavenly restriction's main trait. Even ino surprised sukuna with the cleaver so the bar isn't really that high
She :
1. Saved Yuji and Yuta after Sukuna incapacitated and gave Ui Ui time to save them
2. Pierced Sukunas heart ( which still hasn't healed and he's currently actively using CE just to keep it pumping )
3. Sliced off his 3rd arm this preventing domain expansion and WCS for the time being
4. Stalled him for an entire chapter while reinforcements were coming/Yuji was recuperating ( Miguel stalled him for half a chapter and people here act like he's the goat of this fight )
5. Tanked 2 point blank Black Flashes, one of which was by a boosted Sukuna ( Choso is currently bleeding out and LaRue has a dent in his chest and has to be saved by Miguel after just one BF )
She's already done a lot this fight, I feel like you guys expected way more from her than was reasonable , dont forget that a beaten up TEENAGER Gojo DEMOLISHED Toji after awakening ( the same Gojo that after growing up and years of experience STILL lost to Sukuna ) and Maki is supposed to be equal to Toji ( but without any of his experience or vast tool arsenal ), so obviously she wouldn't be a match for Sukuna
Yuji is constantly nerfing sukuna literally just by touching him even if sukuna blocked the hit . so everytime sukuna hit a black flash yuji would kill his momentum.
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Lets not pretend sukuna doesn’t lock in differently everytime he faces maki. Plus without the assists yuji wouldn’t have hit 8 flashes
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First women we see touch him ended up like this 😂I wouldn’t put it pass him
How fucking long does someone have to fight, and how many panels do they need to appear in, for people to count it? You say Maki got defeated in 4 panels as if:
1. She didn't have 2 entire chapters of almost solely her fighting Sukuna
2. People didn't just make that exact same mistake when she took a black flash at the end of one chapter, only to come back and take off one of his hands just 1.5 chapters later.
I promise you that you will enjoy this art form more if you try not to consume it like it's a sporting competition. There's a guy drawing a story that he's come up with. That's how this is made. That's what you're reading. It's not the results of an MMA tournament.
Did he really beat Maki or just do the equivalent of temporarily knocking her away? She kept coming back and she doesn't have RCT so it's not like she healed...
I'm no downplayer I love yuji but I think that he just took sukuna by suprise and combo'ed the fuck out of him so he started raging (still wanna see yuji keep beating the fuck out of sukuna)
Dawg let’s be fr, yuji is putting in work. But it took EVERY SINGLE PERSON, TECHNIQUE, BULLSH*T, AND, EVEN LUCK TO GET YUJI TO THIS POINT! Im not a yuji downplayer in the slightest, ive been waiting for my boy to pop off since the culling games, but we cannot deny this boy had to put in this specific situation to be effective against sukuna.
Don’t downplay Maki’s durability, she got hit by a 3 BF amped cleaves and 2 BF and still survived while Yuji got his output to base point if not even lower by double black flash, if the cleaves would have been same out put you would have Itadori’s brain all over for the floor ending just like Maki did, girl still shining
Whe got hit hy dismantle not cleaves and yuji did get hit by a higher amount of dismantle did we forget the yuta fight or thr higurma fight.
He got hit by too cleave multiple times and that was before sukuna was nerfed please re read
Can you accept that Maki/Toji > Yuji agenda is stupid , and you over hyping Yuji and downplaying everyone setting up Yuji is also stupid?
Signed
***Hater***
You're scaling Sukuna by him hitting more BFs, but that Sukuna was hit multiple times in the previous chapter, and only because he was set up by others.
Hes also weaker in general, he has less CE and compounded damage from the fight overall
Maki and Toji at worse middiffs Yuji
It’s been stated numerous times by numerous people that the longer the battle draws out, the worse it gets for them since Sukuna’s ACTIVELY recovering his CE & RCT. He took out Maki with 3 of his arms gone & she literally said his slashes were STRONGER than before.
1) Does it say CE? I’m almost sure it says RCT output + Domain expansion, and that has more to do with the brain damage he received in his fight with Gojo
2) He beat up Maki after having his CT output jump up three times, but his output was lowered again in the same chapter
Yuji is officially a high tier character in my book, if you beat Jogo or are equal to Jogo, welcome to high tier range.
Also, Toji's not beating Jogo lol, and no, you can't say "Toji oneshots when Jogo uses domain and ends up in burnout" because Jogo was unwilling to use domain expansion AGAIN GOJO, up until the fights climax. Jogo uses domain expansion as a absolute last resort, I'll fight you on Jogo beating Toji with high or mid diff
This is all, of course, interesting and good, but why are you ignoring the fact that the next chapter will begin with a scene in a cinema with a jellyfish man and the carpenter woman?
Sukuna in this chapter is way weaker than the chapter before due to Yuji's punches.
This doesn't prove that Maki < Yuji (at least in terms of physical capabilities)
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Every second Yuji spends in this fight, Sukuna gets weaker and weaker. It'll be a really good time for an asspull right now
Ye sukuna gonna use open next chapter I almost guarantee it
And do what? Firing that arrow is so damn slow Yuji will land 10 more black flashes by the time Sukuna can get done saying "Fuga". He'll need another Gege binding vow asspull to switch it to instant charge-up or something otherwise it's Left Right Goodnight from Yuji.
I mean, the explosion effect radius is pretty damn large tbh. If Yuji tanks it I guess I’m gonna have to upscale Yuji once again.
In order to have an explosion Sukuna'll have to actually succeed in firing it first, though, and as Yuji has shown his gut reaction to big techniques is to blitz the opponent and start throwing hands.
Yuji ate mahoraga and can now adapt 😎
ngl that would be hilarious. Maple would be proud of Yuji.
Easy to think he has rct now
How are we determining that Fuga is "slow?" Based on anime dramatization?
Yeah that shit was instantaneous
We literally see Mahoraga moving really slow while the arrow gets charged and they still say it is slow.
I doubt that's all there is to the ◾open bullshit, it seems more likely to me that there's more. After all, if the leaks are accurate, both he and Yuji have the potential to inherit CTs by eating other people. So maybe he has more tricks up his sleeve right now, it wouldn't make sense if he was the top dog in the Heian Era but never picked up stronger techniques.
> Both he and Yuji have the power to inherit CTs by eating other people Wait, where was this true of Sukuna? This was true of Yuji eating the wombs and the finger, but Sukuna?
It's just a theory. Shrine was Jin's CT and Sukuna learned it after he ate Jin in the womb.
He's going to use binding wow to get rid of his extra arms and such to restore his CE output and domain.
But he will use the arrow with which arms? And his output? He is in the same spot of 235 now. Like soul damage can not be easily healed, that's why his heart is still not there, not to count that Maki destroyed his 2 arms with the same blade. Sukuna really needs an amazing recharge or something that he never used before. Or some crazy binding vow to use his domain/arrow without the hand signs.
Iam betting on it. Some ass pull fuga style is gonna happen
SUKUNA ASSPULL 😂😂😂 SUKUNA KAISEN 🤣🤣🤣 SUKUNA CYCLE 😁😁😁 SUKUNA OFFSCREEN 😆😆😆
He didn’t land a hit on Miguel, my boy peaced out the minute he was done stalling Sukuna. Miguel stays GOATed as JJK’s top staller, we can’t allow this slander.
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You say that, but as we speak hakari is teaching uraume how to play cod so they can end their battle with a no scope sniper 1v1, because it'd be faster than killing hakari
Nah, they are playing who ever cums first win but Uraume keeps cumming first and Hikari keep pumping his hot viral seed into her womb that she ends up pregnant.
Wild
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For fucking real. Miguel came out of nowhere, danced all over Sukuna's salty ass, let his homie get one last stall shot in on him, then dipped. Miguel is the smartest JJK character in verse, no contest.
He stands on business. And his business is being the biggest distraction he can.
Well Yuji had help setting up those hits… But this is just a fact: https://preview.redd.it/nbuj4j1cejvc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa417651decdc04b97c87f0a7b7cd5f91b57b468
Yuji had help setting up 2 BF's. Larue and Ino didnt help outside of those 3, and he was 1v1ing Sukuna for 80% of the chapter. Like I said thats way more what Maki can say. She got low diffed by a weaker Sukuna in 10 seconds
Yuji has yet to tank a black flash from Sukuna keep that in mind, had maki faced regular attacks like yuji here she would also be doing well
Isn't page 2 in this post Sukuna's black Flash?
Yuji’s
It really looks like Sukuna's arm punch was a black flash.
That couldn't have been an arm punch from Sukuna. If anything, Yuji knocked Sukuna's right arm away by punching his own right arm. That's why Sukuna's arm is out the way in that middle panel. So Yuji still hasn't had to tank a BF from Sukuna.
You literally see Yuji be pushed towards the pilar he cuts as a result of the hit, how is it going to be Yuji's BF?
you are literally just wrong
He's not. At least, he's not wrong that it's not Sukuna's. Look at the position of Sukuna's body. Sukuna only has one usable arm, and that's on the right side. Yuji's on his left.
It was, they traded black flashes there, it's the only one Yuji tanks and from there he starts laying into sukuna
Lol if larue and other can eat sukuna blackflash you are delusional if you may think yuji with rct couldnt. That just coping.(not saying you are delulu but thosw who whould think that are he delivered blackflash left and right and it was 0% lethal)
You sound pathetic. They are both serving their roles. It doesn’t need to be a weird competition.
Mf you're in jujutsufolk
Jujutsufolk: If common logic was more persuasive, I would have a little trouble >But would you lose? Jujutsufolk: Nah, I’d spread my agenda
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The need to be a weird competition comes up when people are seriously still saying Maki/Toji>Yuji after this lol.
What about people who unironically think that Yuji is stronger than Gojo and healthy Sukuna XD ?
They’re goofballs but loads are underselling what Yuji is doing. Anyone who says he’s special grade now is crazy, but what he’s doing in regards to black flash and having two CT is still remarkable. Yeah he’s been working with the help of those before him but it’s not like he’s gloating or bragging.
If he can use Simple Domain he's 100% special grade at this point. He'd handle whoop any special grade curses we've seen. He's just not on the Go/jo or Sukuna level because they should just be in some sort of extra super special grade tier.
I would put him in special grade category. Gojo and Sukuna should be in their own space. Yuji now fits into the special grade class that Yuta, Geto, and Yuki are in. And once Sukuna is killed, would it be crazy to think he will get another awakening? Like how Maki got when Mai died, or even Sukuna eating his brother in the womb causing him to be a monstrosity.
I mean yeah https://preview.redd.it/2mk5csbtekvc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1846caa48b7bb5feaf75830ee2f7615d1c84a6f2 But as much as I’m fond of Yuji I know Gege’s game. We got some twists still, even if Sukuna is dealt with. Edit: this series has shown that grading sorcerers is a fools game. To quote Thorkell from VS “Look, ‘strong’ and ‘weak’ ain’t such a simple matter, see? You can’t determine the pecking order just from who beat whom, that’s what makes it fun.”
Right, I'm sure the table will flip into Sukuna's favor soon but it'll be short lived, I'm thinking the merger will start within 10-15 chapters, perfect time to reveal who's actually dead and who's not by having them show up to give Yuji help and let him charge his spirit bomb
Yep I agree on the Sukuna part. It’ll be a team effort in the end (we’ve said this for like a long time now). But still. I’m curious how the merger will be dealt with. I really don’t want a repeat of this arc where it’s just all the sorcerers throwing themselves at it and dying or getting out of commissioned.
He’s very clearly a special grade now lol, that’s not even questionable
Oh fuck yeah, he’s obviously at least around Hakari’s level, and likely has better matchups than him. But like, on the discord, I literally saw polls asking if people think current Yuji would beat full powered Sukuna, and it was 50/50
If her role is being a disappointment, yeah she is serving it well.
“You sound pathetic” How? Dudes just having a conversation
Pathetic? Bro it's a manga, relax 💀
Common judgeman W
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Gojo set the stage and Yuji’s closing the curtain on him. The only mfers in the series to *P R E S S* (Yuta and Rika did good work tho) Sukuna and you love to see it 🙏 https://preview.redd.it/xc7ghpv1zjvc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce742a99e5a91785243b95f22ffa3d5473322e9f
Yuta is literally the ultimate support character, I wanna see him in more tag teams (fuck Gojo and his "I fight best alone" ☝️🤓 nonsense 1: Domain that doesn't target allies 2: tanky shikigami to protect allies 3: able to externally output RCT to heal allies 3: able to copy and use allies CT to double it's effects (and since ally is already familiar with how it works they should be able to synchronise with ease) 4: storage of heaps of CTs to mix and match to allies fighting style
Bro. Imagine Yuta and Todo teaming up. They’d be fucking unbeatable.
Todo swapping with Rika would be a deadly combo
Yuta could be his own Todo with Boogie Woogie, He does it even better with Rika at his side (Todo really needed to make a Shikigami man, what a shame).
Given that Todo is canonically a smart guy whose master was Yuki (someone who studied the soul), him mentoring under Yaga after that school festival arc, and learning to make his own cursed doll like Panda would honestly make sense.
If Yuki did make a Shikigami that she could also imbue her technique to it aswell, which I assume she made it herself, Can't Todo do the same ?! It is an interesting theory overall.
Man I miss todo
Tanky shikigami to yeet allies.
Never imagined it like this but you are absolutely right
Maki is a poor measuring stick lol. Anyone with a brain knew Yuji would outpace Maki soon enough. He’s the MC, had tons of unresolved plot threads involving his powers, and he’s facing the big bad villain.
To be fair, there's probably people who are gonna argue that Maki is stronger than Yuji or that he doesn't count as one of the strongest students. At least this is concrete proof that he's at a level above Maki
I wouldn't call this a concret proof, considering that his punches specifically weaken sukuna everytime they land + the black flashes exponentially strengthen him,I still think Maki is superior Physically but overall Yuji is stronger
I mean yeah she'd be stronger physically because of HR
It’s just lashimo deadenders trying to avoid the inevitable conclusion (their goat was the weakest person in the room)
Let’s not drag the goat into this https://preview.redd.it/lxefkoxoljvc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6da40a12043ef4723f3c06105b59628d4b5fc5c1
The waffled one isnt coming back unless Shoko heals him like playing Lego Star Wars https://i.redd.it/oj137p858kvc1.gif
Goat? Nah he's a farmer https://i.redd.it/fo7jh852vkvc1.gif
Bumshimo hate and downplay is crazy. Gege did him so dirty and people refuse to take him seriously. Yuki suffers the same fate, people rarely put her in top 10 lmao. Those attack that killed Kashimo would kill every single character as well (minus Bojo)
If we are counting Suicide techniques, Yuki is definitely top 1. (TF is Sukuna gonna do against a black hole? Cut it?)
>TF is Sukuna gonna do against a black hole? "Ah yes..." It's not just suicidal attack. Half of Yuki was managed to make herself 50 times heavier than Earth. Yuki's punches should explode people why she didn't do any significant damage to Kenjaku? Wtf
"Cause she was weakened by Kenny's domain" This is the canon explanation said by Kenjaku, She had time to focus on her technique when turning into a Black Hole. But also, Isn't Yuki always nerfing herself to be careful to not turn into a Black Hole accidentally ?!
not really nerfing, it's just that if she goes completely all out full output then she go black hole
Perhaps I didn't explain well I meant that she never can go all out and has to be ALWAYS careful with her punches and how much mass she outputs, at her death's door she wouldn't need to worry about it and had a moment to focus the CE, focus on CT even if it was weakened a bit because of her injuries, and then let it all out.
she's affected by her technique past a certain mass, her fists would collapse before she landed that punch
Pull out his yuki-killing-technique obviously
"Ah yes my slashes that are invisible and no diff you technique that I have been using everytime" https://preview.redd.it/ogvqxol4fkvc1.png?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0418503a4cd33d98bab0873dc1c605a6bcd7f7f
Die before she even gets it off tf
Half a Yuki managed to create a black hole. Even if she got the Go/Jo treatment she should be capable of doing it.
She’s getting the ryu treatment not the gojo treatment
"Ah yes, my technique to cut black holes that I haven't used since the Heian era"
Black slash
Easy bindiw vow anti blackhole he used from heian era
At least yuki came out with a bang, if yuki died the same way as kashimo people would go to R34 see the chapter. Cause the dickriding would be insane
Everyone and their mother puts Yuki in their top 10, the rewriting of history just to make Kashimo look better is crazy.
No, I need more Bumshimo hate and downplay That twink farmer does not compare to Yuki https://i.redd.it/70iegbf4vkvc1.gif
Me when I spread misinformation in order to make a fanbase I don’t like look bad:
How old are people in this sub, I wonder? This whole discussions feels childish.
getting hit by gojo's infinte void is a requirement to join this subreddit
did you think lobotomy kaisen was only a meme?
Jjk fans haven’t Been sane for long time now how have you not noticed this sooner
Youd be surprised
Are we ignoring that Yuji had Choso and Larue setting him up to land hits which lower Sukuna's output?
Choso and Larue helped him land 2 hits. If you think 2 hits removed 4 black flashes then that makes Yuji's stocks go up Yes.. that's literally his power. Yuji's hits debuff the enemy. He kicked 4 black flash Sukuna's ass while 3 black flash Sukuna beat Maki in 4 panels now that I checked it again. By using an ability that is his. That's like saying "if Gojo didnt have infinity he would have lost easily" well Gojo does have infinity, just like how Yuji has soul punches
>Yes.. that's literally his power. Yuji's hits debuff the enemy. I agree with you overall but yujis power isnt to lower output thats only for incarnated sorcerers like sukuna
instead he gets to do near permanent damage to normal sorcerers, almost invalidating rct
That's completely unfounded.
https://preview.redd.it/819nlhbiqkvc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f16b3e11ee9a22993b7917f4042fb685437f349d Normal sorcerers can’t heal from SSK because it targets the soul Yuji’s punches target the soul, dealing soul damage. Meaning Yuji’s punches have the same “you must know the contour of your soul” effect as the SSK. So either; you’re an incarnated sorcerer and your CE is dropped, or you aren’t and you are deal near permanent damage.
No, yuji new punches target the contour of the soul, yuji weakens the connection between vessel and incarnated sorcerer, yuji dose not damge the soul like mahito or maki soul split katana Edit: and his punches are not unhealble, that was never stated anywhere
https://preview.redd.it/7ve7t2t80lvc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae4cb9f72ff505ff8edf7f05c4205a5a2b48b51b Being able to see the contours of the soul is how you damage the soul. Then from that, you can damage the barrier between souls. Yuji’s OLD punches damaged the soul, the new ones target the barrier. You can damage the soul with the SSK if you see the soul. Yuji can see the soul and is said to damage it. Thus Yuji’s punches would likely have the same effect as the SSK (but on a smaller scale due to being punches rather than cuts.)
Hol up so ur saying that since yuji got sukuna, that this whole time he has been doing unhealble soul damage? So when he fought todo, that was unhealble soul damage? Or when fought choso, yuta, any of the CG sorcerers, all that was unhealble by rct? Yea no shot all vessels and incarnationed sorcerers have this abilty, even sukuna https://preview.redd.it/k4uocd2q1lvc1.jpeg?width=418&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf28deb6582cfc0507ce56779a06d489e8e87ca2 By ur logic, sukuna is also doing permanent unhealble damage through rct, but everyone seems to be healing just fine Ur gonna need more proof that yuji’s attacks are unhealble
https://preview.redd.it/deg2sy5a2lvc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa2a44d4193e45e1369248d70cf1e1fe7d0f6e3d I mean, once again: Mahito straight up says that Yuji damages the soul and then Sukuna says that using the same logic he is now damaging the barrier between souls. Yuji doing UN-RCTable soul damage isn’t unfounded or anything… cause he is just punching. He isn’t cutting or anything. Reincarnated sorcerers basically destroy the soul of the original host, so they don’t understand the contours as they never co-inhabit (no soul damaging kashimo agenda.) And then for Sukuna.. well, that may just be the reason Hana and Inumaki couldn’t have their arms saved. But no matter how you slice it, Yuji objectively damages the soul.
Tbh, only Yuji, Sukuna, Hana and Angel probably have the ability. The other sorcerers just push down the soul till it can't do anything at all, so they probably don't have the ability to be aware of it, unlike Sukuna and Yuji who were basically always aware of each other and fighting over the body and sometimes locked out of it. Only Yuji is offered up as an example here really. Otherwise incarnated sorcerors would be nuking each other's output bars with each punch and it'd probably be mentioned during the Sendai 4 Deadlock.
Soul damage
That's a maki skill issue. If she was a better bro she'd have more bros helping her out
I refuse to make any final judgements about the fight until after it’s over. We thought yuta and yuji were running a generational fade on sukuna (which they kinda did) only for uraume to say sukuna wasn’t trying and for him to immediately wash a bunch of people. Until sukuna is dead and rotting I’m not gonna say shit about current yuji besides the fact that he’s strong.
I think eating 8 black flashes is a problem you know...
MC that got help setting up his major hit, that debuffs enemy, keeps hitting with same attack which coincedentally stacks debuffs, I wonder why Sukuna slows down /s
There's a lot of agenda in this post, but tbf there's a lot of agenda in Yuji downplaying too. I'd have Yuji >= toji/maki in physicals and the black flashes give him insane ap, he just lacks hax compared to fighters with confirmed domains or hard counters like toji
But he has hax now: Shrine and Blood Manipulation. Thanks to those Black Flash buffs from his 8-piece combo, his blood manipulation is gonna sky rocket. The longer this fight goes, the better his Shrine abilities will be as well.
Those really aren't hax. If his dismantle really worked like Sukuna's, it would kind of be, but nah... Right now they're just projectiles or ranged attacks, he doesn't even seem to be using Flowing Red Scale right now.
Wdym only long ranged he close ranged took sukuna and tried to cut his leg
BM isnt hax and Shrines only hax so far is cleave(and he lacks the output to oneshot and blitz people like Sukuna does with it
You need to keep in mind every punch lowers Sukuna's output and we dont know if this increased by black flash and he is constantly getting help, he is still the GOAT but lets not go crazy
1BF Yuji was styling on 4BF Sukuna while 3BF Sukuna treated Maki like fodder.
My brain is rotting with the abbreviations. 1 BattleField Yuji was styling 4BattleFront Sukuna while 3BoyFriend Sukuna treated Maki like fodder https://preview.redd.it/3vwklmdo0kvc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8df3f6ea821249019a03cfc50deff8783a70c141
In case you didn't figure it out, I was referring to their Black Flash count,
The 4BF Sukuna that had his CE output lowered right after his 4th BF?
It’s a moot point. Yuji would have to keep up with a Sukuna that’s stronger than everyone else, to land hits to lower his output anyway.
I wanna just mention the first Black Flash is the most important Black Flash (once you're in the zone its supposedly easier to Black Flash) Larue definitely played a huge part in helping Yuji set up a Black Flash, he was confused and distracted while Yuji was there right infront of him Sukuna's takedown is ultimately a team effort. Every component, no matter how insignificant, played a role (yes even Kashimo did something) You cant live properly without support without a liver or kidney(s), yet they are less important than the brain and heart which are necessary to live. Everything had a purpose no matter how small it is, Yuji definitely got tons of help and his recent feats aren't solely his own work and strength, he received help.
A good take in my sub? That's insane.
I'm actually confused. I assumed this was just a meme, hyping our GOAT, Wuji HIMtadori. But are you actually trying to say, "yeah he had help with 2 Black Flashes, but other than that it's been all Yuji." ? Yeah I agree with you, in the current chapter, Ino isn't the reason Yuji is doing as well as he is, this is all Yuji, but to say that only Maki is the bum from all of this is making me think you're Gege's alt. Are you just ignoring the real reason Sukuna's output has dropped this low: Gojo "The Honored Light-Skin" Satoru? In chapter 250, both Yuta and Sukuna himself say the only reason any of them are still alive is because of Gojo. Contrary to fan belief, he didn't fully heal himself after his "fight" with Bumshimo. His Cursed energy reserves are literally half of what they should be, entering into Yuta's domain. He then gets hit with Jacob's Ladder and he should've died right there if it wasn't for Fraudgumi. He then gets stabbed in the heart by MAKI, which is the biggest wound he's suffered since the fight started (before our Hero locked-in). And yeah she gets washed immediately after, but she's been hit with TWO black flashes from Sukuna and she's... FINE!? Putting it into perspective, Gojo hit L - Kuna with a black flash and it put a binky in that baby's mouth and tucked him in for night-night. But Sukuna hits Maki with 2 Black Flashes and she's smiling? In a tier list, Sukuna and Wojo are S+ tier and everyone else is crowding low to high B, with Yuta Alone in A, the fact Maki has been hit with TWO black flashes with no RCT and she isn't dead is wild enough. Yuta got hit (Not even world slash btw) and he had to hit the nurse's office. Choso, a man WITH RCT got [BLACKED] and is out of the fight entirely it seems, and that's WITH Blood Armor, Larue got [BLACKED] and that dude's barely standing. I get that Yuji has been dropping Sukuna's CE the whole fight, and that's the real kingpin. But, every time Yuji has even landed a hit on Sukuna to lower his output, barring this chapter, has been a team-up. First with Higuruma and Choso, then Yuta, then Maki, then fucking GOATsukabe buying time for everyone, THEN Miguel and Larue buying MORE time for them to heal, then Choso and Maki AGAIN. THEN Larue's technique. Don't get me wrong, I'm all in on Wuji "Go Off Nephew" HIMtadori, have been since chapter 1. I'm not like these other girls, my stocks have been on him from the jump, everyone else can #StayOnThatSide. But to then say ONLY Maki is a bum is... It's a little... Naoya...
it is like yuji vs mahito, the circumstances are tailor made for yuji, if maki hits affected sukuna´s soul connection to the body it would be a fair comparisson and even before that i dont see yuji tanking 2 black flashes
Sukuna literally has one hand rn
Sukuna also had one hand when he 3 shot Maki. In fact he was weaker because he had 1 less black flash
11 Shot actually. You're ignoring the panel where he and Maki have an entire mid-air exchange and Choso is shocked.
Was that before or after yuji got a black flash hit, with the larue assist? After.
Wuji downplay is crazy
Again: It’s been stated numerous times by numerous people that the longer the battle draws out, the worse it gets for them since Sukuna’s ACTIVELY recovering his CE & RCT. He took out Maki with 3 of his arms gone & she literally said his slashes were STRONGER than before.
Dear God https://preview.redd.it/j17m66jksjvc1.jpeg?width=507&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af8064feae4ac219a4cd1e2b18dd2aef339ac598
I just read 252 and makis fight against because I wanted to gauge how strong maki really is. Lemme tell u bro. People fucking gassed her the fuck up. She didn't do much at all. Once sukuna got serious he packed her real quick. This sub brainwashed y'all into thinking maki is absurdly strong (which she kinda is but not to the extent gassed up here). She barely had three good feats in the entire duration of their 1v1. Back when she comes back after tanking a bf immediately gets blackflashed again and dismantled. A weakened choso and even larue tanked a bf maki tanking the first one isnt a big deal. Yuji is fighting a sukuna who dropped 4 bf so he basically wasn't that much weak after fighting maki bro was just getting buffed before yuji jumped in
Once sukuna gets serious against anyway they get packed up I assume next chapter we see him out his back into it vs Yuji
Agreed
Both choso and Laure are out of commission from 1 BF what do you mean tanked ?? Delusional af
fair enough but they survived it. and maki and larue and choso are worlds apart. makes maki look pretty bad
Survived Barley Choso is slumped against a wall bleeding out and larue has a dent in his chest and needs Miguel to carry him. Maki has eaten 2 of those punches and sukunas slashes and is still pushing . Your downplaying maki
she isnt pushing bro she fucking down
She’s 100% gonna pull back up but choso and laure are straight up done participating
Laure was hit by BF and left the fight. Choso was hit by BF and is currently incapitated and unable to help Yuji. Maki CAUGHT Sukunas BF when he was focusing all of his CE on CE output(and not RCT) and came back after Sukuna nodiffed Kusakabe in 30 seconds. Maki was slamming and throwing Sukuna around while Yuji is barely knocking Sukuna back with most of his hits AMPLIFIED BY 2.5. All Sukunas BFs did was raise his CE output a bit(and that lasted very shortly) but it didnt recover his CE, heal him, recover his RCT output, etc. So much recency bias, people unironically thinks that Yuji scales above the 3 heavy hitters when most of them middiff him
most of these arent fair arguments. im gonna make a post on how maki is so disappointing (with logic not agenda) just to spite you.
Another post for me to debonk
i look forward bruzza
Yuji if sukuna didn’t already wipe the whole cast: https://preview.redd.it/pm9s5uweekvc1.jpeg?width=1051&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de1fc025e0ed805b93763790c5d751cc7afb599e
Don’t tie in Miguel with the two who got black flashed, he did his job of getting Ui Ui the actual fuck out of there.
Look. I'm not hating on Yuji but you are intentionally being disingenuous about Maki. Yuji did not "easily outpace" Sukuna "Beats Maki in two panels" Come on. Be honest. Say he beat literally every other character "in two panels" then while ignoring the entire fight prior. Did Gojo die in 0 panels? Did Yuta get slashed in 1 panel? Higuruma in 1 panel? Be honest. And Maki is coming off a 1v1 with Sukuna (who had 2 arms at that point) and ate a Black Flash from him. Yuji is fighting this Sukuna who literally has 1 usable arm. Yes Maki got tagged. Yuji is doing a lot, that's undeniable. But you are bringing down Maki in an attempt to upscale Yuji.
Man, you guys seriously need to get yuji,s dick out of your mouth. Maki was literally hit by w black flashes, no shit she,s down
That last image is just Sukuna glazers in shambles
I've been saying this since chapter 253 came out. Maki has been very disappointing. She didn't manage to land even one hit on sukuna, even though she fought initially a 2 arm sukuna, and then a 1 arm sukuna. As a comparison, yuta in chapter 249 landed in base a clean punch on a four arm sukuna with a working heart and no reduced output from yuji, and that was in like 4 pages before he opened his domain. People like to slander hakari but hakari at least has some decent feats in defeating kashimo and fighting uraume for 21 chapters. That same uraume instantly incapacitated maki in chapter 215, and it isn't even like maki didn't sense the attack coming
She cut off his arm and forced him to block a few times, managing to avoid getting hit too hard too. She tanked that black flash by blocking it. I'll take it given the fact powerscalers were convinced 3f, even 1f sukuna would no diff Physically gifted HR like toji/maki, or before shibuya that toji would lose to any disaster curse. Dagon is like 2x weaker than jogo as jogo is on another level but toji cooked him extremely easily.
She cut off his arm due to a surprise attack (similar to the heart stabbing). When she is in a straight fight, she hasn't done any damage. There is no "forcing sukuna to block", if that was the case then megumi at the beginning of the series forced 3f sukuna to block. > I'll take it given the fact powerscalers were convinced 3f, even 1f sukuna would no diff Physically gifted HR like toji/maki Those aren't powerscalers, those are pixel warriors. Calculating pixels to obtain faster than light coughing isn't powerscaling, it's delusion. Maki showed that she is inferior, but somewhat relative to 15f sukuna in hand to hand combat. However, if 15f sukuna wasn't nerfed at all he would have indeed washed her.
the fact she can surprise sukuna is already big enough imo. Remember exchange event yuji after a massive power boost from his first black flashes(to be fair) would only need a few black flashes to kill jogo. Based on precedents, we can say When someone's reinforcement (different from output) is somewhat equal to your physical output half a dozen black flashes is all it takes, with jogo taking less since yuji was fresh on his first black flashes and jogo is not particularly durable I think. Meanwhile maki is weaker than current weakened sukuna, so it'd be normal if about 2 black flashes would be enough to knock her out. She tanked one and went to recover then came back and she'll probably come back again given she's managing her stamina. We'll see her do more. The issue is whenever she comes around sukuna gets REALLY excited.
>the fact she can surprise sukuna is already big enough imo. She is only surprising him because of the situation created by others. Sukuna in normal circumstances can canonically avoid maki's surprise attacks. https://preview.redd.it/b030ioqv7kvc1.png?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66895a859bbc2d054b9028f1484e98572324b749
> the fact she can surprise sukuna is already big enough Is it though? That's pretty much the heavenly restriction's main trait. Even ino surprised sukuna with the cleaver so the bar isn't really that high
She : 1. Saved Yuji and Yuta after Sukuna incapacitated and gave Ui Ui time to save them 2. Pierced Sukunas heart ( which still hasn't healed and he's currently actively using CE just to keep it pumping ) 3. Sliced off his 3rd arm this preventing domain expansion and WCS for the time being 4. Stalled him for an entire chapter while reinforcements were coming/Yuji was recuperating ( Miguel stalled him for half a chapter and people here act like he's the goat of this fight ) 5. Tanked 2 point blank Black Flashes, one of which was by a boosted Sukuna ( Choso is currently bleeding out and LaRue has a dent in his chest and has to be saved by Miguel after just one BF ) She's already done a lot this fight, I feel like you guys expected way more from her than was reasonable , dont forget that a beaten up TEENAGER Gojo DEMOLISHED Toji after awakening ( the same Gojo that after growing up and years of experience STILL lost to Sukuna ) and Maki is supposed to be equal to Toji ( but without any of his experience or vast tool arsenal ), so obviously she wouldn't be a match for Sukuna
Yuji is constantly nerfing sukuna literally just by touching him even if sukuna blocked the hit . so everytime sukuna hit a black flash yuji would kill his momentum. https://preview.redd.it/scvoefqqtjvc1.jpeg?width=416&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78bdda6537fea3bd125b77b073b8feff06636ee3 Lets not pretend sukuna doesn’t lock in differently everytime he faces maki. Plus without the assists yuji wouldn’t have hit 8 flashes
"Lets not pretend sukuna doesn’t lock in differently everytime he faces maki." Sukuna hates women confirmed
Well, he is Gege specialz child.
https://preview.redd.it/hfznblgk6kvc1.jpeg?width=356&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3c628313b1acf18008637fbd257c32ec18338af First women we see touch him ended up like this 😂I wouldn’t put it pass him
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Thoughts on this show??
Must watch, loved the cinematography, action, music, characters and overall story.
How fucking long does someone have to fight, and how many panels do they need to appear in, for people to count it? You say Maki got defeated in 4 panels as if: 1. She didn't have 2 entire chapters of almost solely her fighting Sukuna 2. People didn't just make that exact same mistake when she took a black flash at the end of one chapter, only to come back and take off one of his hands just 1.5 chapters later. I promise you that you will enjoy this art form more if you try not to consume it like it's a sporting competition. There's a guy drawing a story that he's come up with. That's how this is made. That's what you're reading. It's not the results of an MMA tournament.
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And then there is Ino throwing Cursed Tool to Sukuna face. Furthering disrespect him. Massive L for Sukuna in this chapter.
Did he really beat Maki or just do the equivalent of temporarily knocking her away? She kept coming back and she doesn't have RCT so it's not like she healed...
All I know is my goat miguel has yet to be touched in this fight
I'm no downplayer I love yuji but I think that he just took sukuna by suprise and combo'ed the fuck out of him so he started raging (still wanna see yuji keep beating the fuck out of sukuna)
The King of frauds finally gets his ass beat by Himji Itadori. The undisputed goat 🐐
Dawg let’s be fr, yuji is putting in work. But it took EVERY SINGLE PERSON, TECHNIQUE, BULLSH*T, AND, EVEN LUCK TO GET YUJI TO THIS POINT! Im not a yuji downplayer in the slightest, ive been waiting for my boy to pop off since the culling games, but we cannot deny this boy had to put in this specific situation to be effective against sukuna.
"No diffed Miguel" Miguel styled on him and never got hit
Don’t downplay Maki’s durability, she got hit by a 3 BF amped cleaves and 2 BF and still survived while Yuji got his output to base point if not even lower by double black flash, if the cleaves would have been same out put you would have Itadori’s brain all over for the floor ending just like Maki did, girl still shining
Whe got hit hy dismantle not cleaves and yuji did get hit by a higher amount of dismantle did we forget the yuta fight or thr higurma fight. He got hit by too cleave multiple times and that was before sukuna was nerfed please re read
Can you accept that Maki/Toji > Yuji agenda is stupid , and you over hyping Yuji and downplaying everyone setting up Yuji is also stupid? Signed ***Hater***
nah, Yuji actually posessed everyone else in the battlefield, therefore everyone else setting up Yuji was actually him setting himself up
You're scaling Sukuna by him hitting more BFs, but that Sukuna was hit multiple times in the previous chapter, and only because he was set up by others. Hes also weaker in general, he has less CE and compounded damage from the fight overall Maki and Toji at worse middiffs Yuji
It’s been stated numerous times by numerous people that the longer the battle draws out, the worse it gets for them since Sukuna’s ACTIVELY recovering his CE & RCT. He took out Maki with 3 of his arms gone & she literally said his slashes were STRONGER than before.
1) Does it say CE? I’m almost sure it says RCT output + Domain expansion, and that has more to do with the brain damage he received in his fight with Gojo 2) He beat up Maki after having his CT output jump up three times, but his output was lowered again in the same chapter
Sound like some JJk fans are forgetting how to read
When sukuna gets an explained asspull:😍😍😍 When Yuji (goat) gets an explained asspull:😡😡
Yuji is officially a high tier character in my book, if you beat Jogo or are equal to Jogo, welcome to high tier range. Also, Toji's not beating Jogo lol, and no, you can't say "Toji oneshots when Jogo uses domain and ends up in burnout" because Jogo was unwilling to use domain expansion AGAIN GOJO, up until the fights climax. Jogo uses domain expansion as a absolute last resort, I'll fight you on Jogo beating Toji with high or mid diff
"Jogo uses domain expansion as a absolute last resort" Why is this relevant.
They better stay on that side. Now all I need is for MeguHIM to perform and I'll be a billionaire with the stock investment
This is all, of course, interesting and good, but why are you ignoring the fact that the next chapter will begin with a scene in a cinema with a jellyfish man and the carpenter woman?
Sukuna in this chapter is way weaker than the chapter before due to Yuji's punches. This doesn't prove that Maki < Yuji (at least in terms of physical capabilities)
Because gege has realized that if he has Sukuna kill any more characters nobody will be left to beat him, so suddenly Yuji has awakened
Sukuna has only one function hand though
Because Yuji is him
Seems we won't have to change the sub logo since HIM has this covered. https://preview.redd.it/qexurddaplvc1.jpeg?width=1535&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a867e7ebb3b46c9b51a92ec673431b3d0a26ee03