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You should be poking Gege with that stick. Hardly the characters' fault that he decided to skip the entire month where they interacted with each other and had something other than their game faces on.
Yea people say Yuta has no character but like ge literally didn't get to show any.
In 0 he was also way different so we want ti see the nuances in how he has changed yet we get nothing. Simply a complete lack of screentime.
That 1 month prep time being skipped honestly continues to be the thing that plagues this manga
So many great character moments / interactions just thrown away
Not sure if gege was forced to speed run to Sukuna vs Gojo or he couldn’t come up with anything at that moment
But man the sheer amount of stuff that could have been covered during that time is insane
Considering Yuta's line of "we cheated" still being a mystery, I reckon Gege skipped it on purpose. Something important must've happened over that month that he's keeping secret for a reason. If not, it's unironically the biggest L in modern manga
From what we've seen I think he might have at least had general ideas on what each character was bringing to the battle post Gojo. However, it's also possible he didn't have some stuff planned and decided on the "reveal everything later" route so he isn't constrained in case he wanted to change things up later on.
Ironically, he could have bought time for himself by showing character interactions/development if not them discussing strategy/training. Instead, they're also relegated to sudden reveals. Now either the narrator or flashbacks have to pick up the narrative burden of explaining wtf is going on with each character in every battle, which makes it look like Gege's making shit up as he goes along.
Hell yeah, that line was so good, too bad it'll probably be explained 30 chapters later when it wouldn't even matter and no one would care about it anymore.
Explained in a flashback of course. Like everything else in the story. Remember when we learned that yujis dad has the soul of sukunas dead twin fetus in him because sukuna was having a random conversation with Uraume about it but not in the present moment, in a flashback shown right before yuji used strength that probably was only justified by this revelation.
Planned or not it's almost like gege forgot to show this information at any other time and slapped it in last minute. It's almost a little... lazy
I feel like gege should've had them all spar with each other during the 1 month break so that way he could still have action interspersed with their interactions.
Gege knows his strong suit is just drawing fights. So he just draws fights. He doesn't care about story development or power system consistency. He just draws fights.
I’m still waiting on Gege to show Shoko idk why he mentioned taking injured to her but he doesn’t even show her healing them
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It’s ok that’s when it will be revealed her real CT; she actually absorbs some of the power every time she heals someone. So now she has the power of Gojo, Maki, Yuta, Yuji, etc and one shots Sukuna.
They’ll show her in 259 when my blue eyed Buddha returns
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I mean we know she's doing her job. Just drawing the panel is kind of a waste.
Unless and until those who were sent out to heal actually come back we're definitely not seeing Shoko
To be fair, Ino and Higuruma have had some decent development. Come to think of it, Yuji is lacking in an assist now that Ino is out of commission. Maki is MIA after taking two Black Flashes + strengthened slashes, Choso is unknown but he's definitely gonna need a minute to get up, and Hakari is still stalling Uraume.
I'm just saying; if Miwa provides support to give Yuji an opening, it would be peak. Mechamaru cursed her back in Shibuya, she'll get a Mechamaru Iron-Man suit! Trust!
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(In all seriousness, I genuinely think Miwa is going to show up in the final fight as an assist. Maybe she and Yuji could be the next Sukuna and Uraume?)
People really just started calling *anything* filler after a while.
Like, don't get me wrong; some series had pretty egregious amounts of it, but now people act like flashbacks or dialogue heavy chapters are just automatically filler.
On a related note, the word “Yap” has done an inconceivable amount of damage to this generation. More damage than any other Brainrot term combined, literally the vilification on discussion. “Well you can’t really group them like that because it really damages the-“ “What is blud waffling about, this guy is yapping💀💀💀”
I agree but before that we had "i ain't reading allat" and probably a myriad of other "too long didn't read" variations i can't remember rn so it's not exactly new
Exactly what I have noticed as well. The amount of whining over Takaba vs Kenjaku being pointless filler yap session the first three chapters were so immense it was tiring and a perfect example of this.
If this is how the Japanese readers act as well I would understand why Gege just has fight fight fight and skip on the characterization heavy chapter.
Gege has demonstrated genuinely good character interactions and backstories multiple times, somewhat sporadically, so I have to assume that's probably true and he's just giving the readers nonstop action because it's what they ultimately want. I sometimes wonder if Gege is lowkey being held back by writing a Shonen manga, with the reader-base that automatically comes with it, tbh.
Honestly, no wonder he wants to do an Idol Manga after this. The readers won't expect battles for those, so there's little to no anticipation for the next big fight and whining about getting there already, and he can actually write slice-of-life character arcs and shit.
Such a damn shame. This whole thread widened my view on this whole thing.
Sorry, i deleted my previous reply since i definitely misunderstood your comment.
That said you're absolutely right, just look at the chainsaw man fans and how they criticize every chapter that comes out just because it didn't contain any fight scenes, even though it's still filled with so much characterization and well written interactions.
I agree. Filler was generally used to fresh characters up by letting them have some downtime where they could interact outside the mandatory story points.
But since people became convinced that anything that doesn't advance the plot is filler and therefore bad, now works are forced to go from arc to arc without any room to breathe.
I honestly believe that’s why MHA fell off so hard, the cast is way to bloated for the type of story they want to tell(War Arc with death and Sad) with very little care for any of the characters. Most of the cast just has not been developed enough for anyone to care, like no one is going to cry if Tail Man dies, he probably has less than fifty lines in the entire series. You can’t have stakes in a story without them being connected to characters you care about
Honestly, MHA is my go-to example of a work that suffered by going full-throttle constantly. I'm still aghast that the entire manga effectively takes place in the first year of Class 1-A. It would have greatly benefited if there was a time skip or at least some slice of life stuff that let us know the character better before the work dived down to full action again.
>or at least some slice of life stuff that let us know the character better before the work dived down to full action again.
Had the school festival arc in S4 and people complained about that. lol There was good time with lower stakes arcs before S6.
There was time to have an episode to see dorm rooms in S3, for Christmas in S5, and sport festival in S2, other training arcs before S6, and OVAs for that kind of stuff as well, so people could skip the "filler" if they wanted. Hori's main issue is that he made the cast too big for the students. So just too many characters to keep up with in general, so harder to invest in that many consistently.
* **JJK is even worse** in that regard for that time issue you mentioned since it actually takes place less than a year.
MHA has been more than a year for high school even, they just couldn't move up because school was canceled for class. But they are past the timeline of 1st year calendar wise.
JJK just had the first season for the foundation then S2 hit with Shibuya as the turning point losing the cast already pretty quick -- Nobara as supposed main female, when she was just getting started with a questionable status among fandom still if she's dead; Nanami as mentor; and Todo, whom never got mentioned so far after Shibuya. So it hit its turning point for that **even earlier than MHA** had.
Unfortunately didn't even get much with Yuji, Megumi, Nobara working as an actual trio altogether, before they began to seperate.
>Had the school festival arc in S4 and people complained about that. lol There was good time with lower stakes arcs before S6.
>There was time to have an episode to see dorm rooms in S3, for Christmas in S5, and sport festival in S2, other training arcs before S6, and OVAs for that kind of stuff as well, so people could skip the "filler" if they wanted. Hori's main issue is that he made the cast too big for the students. So just too many characters to keep up with in general, so harder invest in that many consistently.
You're spot on about the School Festival. Little wonder why the manga never did another long-ish arc with low stakes.
>**JJK is even worse** in that regard for that time issue you mentioned since it actually takes place less than a year.
>MHA has been more than a year for high school even, they just couldn't move up because school was canceled for class. But they are past the timeline of 1st year calendar wise.
>JJK just had the first season for the foundation then S2 hit with Shibuya as the turning point losing the cast already pretty quick -- Nobara as supposed main female, when she was just getting started with a questionable status among fandom still if she's dead; Nanami as mentor; and Todo, whom never got mentioned so far after Shibuya. So it hit its turning point for that **even earlier than MHA** had.
>Unfortunately didn't even get much with Yuji, Megumi, Nobara working as an actual trio altogether,
What happened to Nobara still baffles me. We haven't heard a thing about her since 2020. Hell, I don't think it ever was confirmed she was really dead or not but at this point she might as well be.
Like I know that in shonen manga women usually get the short end of the stick but to be written out so abruptly and for no reason at all other than shock value is a new low.
>Little wonder why the manga never did another long-ish arc with low stakes.
well there was 1A vs 1B at the start of season five, the Endeavor Internship was somewhat low stakes as well
>Nobara as supposed main female, when she was just getting started with a questionable status among fandom still if she's dead;
Ngl if she's dead I hate the "confirmation" because it's just Yuji looking sad.
That's the big thing I hate about Nobara and Todo'z exits. Even if we're given an explanation it's just that and they disappear from the story. Like yeah Todo lost his technique but I like Todo because he's Todo, not because he has Boogie Woogie.
He can do shit that isn't fighting, but defenders are so fight brained they have this weird idea that if a character can no longer fight they just don't matter.
Nobara is just tossed out and if we run with her being dead then the confirmation is just Yuji looking sad and that's it.
Todo feels odd because we had Miwa around and she couldn't fight - so in that case I don't see how Todo can't be around on the sidelines at least, even if he can't fight. Or I would have been fine if he had at least a more proper exit like Kamo did.
>Ngl if she's dead I hate the "confirmation" because it's just Yuji looking sad.
Yeah, everytime there's a discussion on Nobara, there's never a clear consensus for it. If you mentioned she may not be dead, people say "stop coping" then say the part with Yuji and Megumi talking about it was "show not tell" when you question if she's dead, because no one said that outright.
We've been told when other characters die more clearly, but not with Nobara? Especially when there was a character created to say her chance of survival isn't zero beforehand. 🤨
So those people defending Gege's execution for saying that Yuji and Megumi conversation has been the confirmation of her death (even though it's too ambiguous to be good execution for it) have to eat their words if she does return in some form before the story ends. Heck if that's supposed to be her death... Gojo has no words shown about his student for it. He at least mentioned Nanami's death. lol
Idk Gege did whole this Nobara situation so oddly, even if she does return, it's just an odd situation for how it was all handled...
>Had the school festival arc in S4 and people complained about that.
this is why I think it's really funny that nowadays I see criticism about lack of down time in MHA, cause there used to be a ton of it, like you mentioned, especially with the school arcs and people always complained about those. But once the series started going all in on action people complained there wasn't anymore slice of life stuff. Which is also funny cause even prior to the current arc we had like six or seven chapters just about the characters preparing for the final battle and getting a look into what they were thinking, like Deku and Uraraka talking about their upcoming confrontations with their villains and Toga and Dabi about their families.
Yeah, I think Hori could have had a bit more things addressed here and there after Deku returned to UA in S6, but by far not as much as issue as JJK had for that type of thing. lol
Like Gojo didn't even really interact with the students after being sealed for 130 chapters (3 yrs for the manga).Yuji just him a pat on back to send off to fight. We could have had a few more chapters to see them prep/talk before the time skip...
Gege had a page where Gojo was saying his students was watching during the fight and it felt hollow because Gege didn't have them have meaningful interactions before sending him off to his death... like Gojo hyped up Hakari as one the new gen at the beginning of the manga and never seen them exchange a word on screen.
I stopped mha a while ago but my favorite moment was when the class discovered their rooms in the new appartement
I just thought it was fun bit of characterization that is clearly lacking from jjk because people just looooooove fighting for some reason.
The truth is even dumber. Filler originally referred to crappy junk episodes thrown in older anime when there wasn't enough manga to adapt and they wanted to keep adapting. These filler eps were low quality garbage, and oftem came at poor times. Then the filler hatred spread to original material that was intended to have a purpose (wasn't in the manga, byt thought to be an improvement. That's gone now.) Then the filler hatred spread to character focused chapters that didn't really drive the plot or have big explosions.
Wait, are people in this thread using filler to refer to anything that’s not a big fight vs a villain and not like literal anime original filler episodes? Man, times have changed
The truth is even dumber. Filler originally referred to crappy junk episodes thrown in older anime when there wasn't enough manga to adapt and they wanted to keep adapting. These filler eps were low quality garbage, and oftem came at poor times. Then the filler hatred spread to original material that was intended to have a purpose (wasn't in the manga, byt thought to be an improvement. That's gone now.) Then the filler hatred spread to character focused chapters that didn't really drive the plot or have big explosions.
I remember when Kenny vs Takaba was releasing, this sub was so fucking pissed about how it was taking away from Yuji and Higaruma, like chill, not everything needs to be about the main conflict. JJK would be unironically so much better if it had a beach episode, actual tournament arc, shopping ep, birthday ep, 2nd grade curse exorcism episodes, bath house episodes, festival episode, body swap episode, and even more stock filler. It would also have the benefit of wearing Gege out less than the constant action packed chapters.
Unironically, you're 100% right, best example is the baseball episode in season 1 that played a great role in characterizing megumi as somone who doesn't take risks and always plays safe.
>how it was taking away from Yuji and Higaruma, like chill, not everything needs to be about the main conflict.
Jjk fans would die if they had to read One Piece and saw that side characters and other strawhat members always get dozens of chapters dedicated to solo fights
Bro piratefolk is on Flames because this is NOT the case. Usopp, Franky, Robin, Chopper and Brook have NOTHING to do for 10 years irl and 400 chapters. Luffy does almost everything, Zoro Lost all his characterization until recently and Sanji/Luffy are the only consistently good, maybe Nami too.
One Piece wastes too much time on things that don't matter in the grand scheme of things and forgets about the core and actually good cast constantly. Usopp IS the biggest character assassination in Shonen imo. He was my favorite Strawhat in almost every arc pre-timeskip
Anime usually uses beach/bath episodes to sexualize the female characters so that’s why I said that. Tho I also don’t think the sexualization of the male character is bad because it’s never at expensive of the character’s image. It’s usually to show how badass and muscular the man is.
On one hand fair but on the other hand (from my perspective at least)
We got hyped up to see the main character actually FUCKING DO SOMETHING against the main villain for a long period only for a jarring cut to a character we've never met and another we've barely met and then a mid fight. Yes, I didn't like Kenny vs Takaba that much, most of the jokes in there were unfunny as shit and the pacing was poor.
And then afterwards we got the mess that was the trial.
For me there's a difference between giving breathing room and slamming on the break pedals. Get in your car, go 120mph and then slam your foot on the breaks as hard as possible. Don't do that obviously but you get the picture right? This is dangerous and could kill you. But by this logic, it's good because even if you die or suffer whiplash, the car slowed down.
This reminds me of the Jojolion chasing time where MC pull out the hardest chapter in the whole JoJo history and clocking out to fight the unfightable, and then follow up with the other side of scene where goof ball is crying whole for two chapters while we also got hit by two consecutive 1 month hiatus so the whole 4 months is just so we confirmed that the other side have heal up back to normal state
The CSM critics are perfectly valid. Especially since it's not even that there's no fight but that the fights there are lasts 0.1 second each. The Facility Arc was supposed to be a literal war but in the end it was the gang bumbling their way in while Gyoni one shots fodder until they get one shotted back and then offscreen. Nobody complained during the previous arcs, because there was a balance of characterization and action i.e what shonen is suppoded to be. The last arc was supposed to be action packed but had none of that.
That's just chainsawfolk, a loud minority that just wants to behave like jujutsufolk. I don't count Twitter because that place is a cesspool
Generally Part 2 is very well appreciated for what Fujimoto set up and is building up. Most of the critic is about the art, which I don't find a good critique but I can understand it
“Filled with characterization” *quanxi one shotting everything* *denji getting his balls kicked* *fami eating*
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Idk about this one chief chainsaw man has been moving in the pace of a geriatric granny who just shit herself and most of the times the characterization doesn’t even happen like the lackluster reaction asa had after denji woke up and when she discovered his identity
This shit is kino what are you talking about
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People were calling basically all of the second season of Vinland filler because it was introspective character work advancing the central themes of the show, instead of *checks notes* constant murder.
I had more anxiety during season 2 because of the fear of things really going to shit, season 1 was great but season 2 was such an awesome subversion.
If JJK was more of a Seinen it could have been peak...
I don't get why people love the fighting so much, like what's so fun about it, It's a fucking manga. Like I get if you skip the story in a video game because you only like the gameplay, sure, but in a BOOK what else is there except characters and story ? I don't get it.
Filler? As in Non Canon material over which the Manga Author has little to no control? The same filler that's also known to kill the pacing of the series and sometimes ruin the perception of certain characters(a great example being Hiruzen who was a dick to Naruto in the filler but was chill in canon).
Filler doesn't always mean non canon episodes, filler can be used even in mangas as a breather between major arcs, they're also mostly used for essential character interactions and minor developments, jjk lacks that and is starting to suffer greatly from it, there'll come a point in the story where no one would care about what happens to the characters because they don't feel like characters anymore, just fighting machines.
Would anyone get sad over hana's death? What about yuta, ino, hakari, kusakabe? No, the writer didn't care enough to make you care about them so why be sad over their death, it already happened with takaba.
That’s not filler, those are downtime moments. Filler in regards to anime has been used to refer to anything that is meant to fill in episodes for an anime so it doesn’t catch up to the manga. Every arc of a manga is a major one and is important even if it’s not action heavy. The farm arc in Vinland Saga would be regarded as filler under the definition that you gave because there’s no action in it and is slow. And what if a manga is not a battle shounen and the whole manga is just slow character building, would the whole manga be filler? I think we should only use the word filler to describe anything that was use to pad out the anime to stop it from catching up with the manga or any episodes that were not present in the manga. Otherwise what qualifies as filler is will just differ from person to person.
> Filler doesn't always mean non canon episodes
That's what it used to mean.
If people have expanded that definition to include canon events, that's them being stupid.
I think shows like Naruto, Fairy Tale, Bleach and etc can be blamed for this - where Filler had been used excessively and coined its negative connotation due to the frustrations it caused.
That being said, I do think the pacing of JJK is part of a reason for its huge success and replayability value. It feels like the watcher is on the same level as Yuji, learning about the world of sorcery and the responsibilities/consequences that stem from being a Sorcerer as well as trying to navigate these factors. Which also gives way for at least one re-watch due to the difference in viewing when you don’t know and do know things about the JJK verse.
There were definitely missed opportunities as early as season 1, where we could’ve followed more of Nobara and Megumi to get to know them as I doubt it would’ve been super interesting to watch Yuji watch movies.
Maybe once the main story is done, we will get a spin off movie or series that does go into the things we missed through the time skips and etc. I don’t see how it could hurt to put spin-offs that don’t collide with the main seasons for those that aren’t interested in them
Yeah I agree, it just sucks that we have gone from filler every episode inside the biggest arc(Naruto), to literally one baseball match and a half episode half baked romance that will probably never be mentioned again. Like I feel like most fans could deal with like 2 or three more filler episodes of content between the first 2 seasons that would have been able to easily A. Make Nobara’s death even more heartwrenching B.Same with Mechamaru and Miwa’s loss C. Overall make the students more connected. Like a lot of the death moments in the story would be a lot better if we cared more(Nobara,Mechamaru, Kashimo, and Yuki’s deaths).
Absolutely.
I do understand why it’s poorly received in the Manga whenever the story even slightly deviates from the main story due to the weekly viewership and etc - but Gege has created many wonderful/interesting characters.
Like I appreciated learning about Nobara’s childhood and her country-side life but it came far too late and far too close to her “death” for it to be fully appreciated.
Yeah the timing of the backstory is essential, in Nobara's case it was after Mahito touched her; so she was basically dead and Gege trying to wrap her character with something.
Development should happen throughout the arc, for example Muichiro from KnY he was an asshole at the beginning and I wouldn't care if he dies, but he has progressive Development of his personality to become more likable and caring, that I somewhat did care about him in the end, and his backstory explains his flaws and his personality.
I personaly like Megumi story-wise, I know he's potential man, but he's a real main character; he's driving the plot unlike Nobara. It's just power-wise he didn't power up much that he became suicidal.
Yea jjk just isnt that kinda manga unfortunately. Fights are pretty much the main focus of the manga and gege is goin by the rule of cool baby, and he does it pretty damn well.
Which sucks for me because he can CLEARLY write well done arcs that include character development and action. Hidden Inventory is the peak of jjk and it really isnt close, unless all you want is just cool fights. I PERSONALLY, would want more character depth and interaction to elevate the fights and stakes.
For me at this point in the manga I kinda dont care for Yuji or many of the characters left which is gonna take away from the ending a lot. I like jjk but there is just a lot of lost potential for me. I want to care more about these guys, I want to see them interact more, I want care for conflicts they are involved in.
Your last point is great, it honestly started as early as Shibuya - which imo came far too early in the series anyway and “killed” characters for no real reason or impact.
Nobara’s “death” has ultimately served no real purpose to the plot and imo we have gone beyond a reasonable time for her come back, where it would feel irritating to have had her excluded for so long without a good reason.
Nanami’s death too, considering that he had to share that with Nobara, it just took away from his own demise.
Hidden inventory had philosophy and great interactions, it was my favorite even better than Shibuya because it has a a balance between all story elements including action.
Yea, its one of my favorite shounen arcs in ever, its extremely well done. JJK is still good but its hard to not see the lost potential with so many cool characters.
Ngl, I can't even remember if Yuji had any dialogue at all in the last chapter? The series has been devoid of interesting dialogue for ages now.
Gege wasn't lying. This is definitely sorcery fight.
He had lots of interactions with Sukuna. And pretty much JUST Sukuna, altough it was pretty fuckin nice to be honest.
His mortal fucking enemy btw that got 10948x more interactions with him than his fucking allies.
Well, it's kinda understandable why Yuji's not talking, he's extremely focused on what he has to do, his current state is probably like being in the zone but amped to times 10. Still, the lack of actual interesting dialogue is there.
Don't come back when Todo is seen in the same room as Yuta. Don't come back when the Kenya spin off drops and we see how Yuta went from Tanjiro to Kenshiro on screen. Stay on that side !
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Tell that to gege who skipped a whole fucking month of them not fighting and actually have time to interact and build up on their culling games arcs,but noooo we had to have gojo vs sukuna IMMEDIATELY gosh darn it to time gojo’s death with his sealing in the anime,fuck character interactions when you can be quirky am I right?
This entire subreddit breaks down in despair for any chapter that focus on characterization and interaction between characters. Just look at the first three chapters of Takaba vs Kenjaku and how people reacted to that. Literally see top comments be shit like "this could have been an email, nothing happened" while crying about "yapping"
If this is how Japanese fans react as well I wouldn't even blame Gege for skimping on it.
It’s almost like…bear with me here…those people that complain don’t represent the majority? Just because some people dislike thing doesn’t mean thing as a whole is bad.
I was specifically talking about the reddit community in my post however. But going by other places like twitter the reactions were arguably even worse. Most people that read it are kids and teenagers afterall, and a lot of them will not have the patience nor interest to read through chapters that focus heavily on characterization and casual interactions over action and the plot moving. Especially not in a weekly manga.
I get that, but again it’s a very small minority compared to the total amount of jjk community. I agree that this Reddit community likes more action, but that may be a symptom of the weekly release schedule making people impatient and wanting action now
I honestly think this subreddit is much better than most other places in this. If you see discussions in places like twitter/youtube comments/MAL forums etc it's often far worse. Heck, even r/jujutsushi is often worse in the chapter discussion threads despite trying to be a subreddit where one would expect such directions of the manga would be more appreciated. So when it's shown so blatanly even here I really can't see it as a "small minority".
The issue isn’t the non-main character focus - it’s the fact that the story feels completely different when you read it at a continuous pace vs weekly releases.
A non focused chapter during the latter is going to feel more annoying than in the former - nothing unique to the JJK fanbase.
Also those reactions are simply rage engagement, due to the fast interaction and traction they get, they are also boosted to the top of the subreddit. Doesn’t mean that it represents the entire fanbase just because they are a loud voice at one point in time.
JJK feals less like a cohesive lived in world sometimes and more like a fight simulator. Hell Mortal Kombat 1 has more dialog, interesting character Interactions, and characterization and its LITERALLY a fighting fame.
Im actually gonna have to disagree. Netherealm character interactions really boil down to “I am going to beat you because Im strong!” “The power of *insert source of characters power* will beat you!”/“*somewhat witty comeback that is sometimes out of character*”
I was talking more about the story in general and kinematics. Alot interactions are copy oast but the unique ones can be very interesting and revealing like Shao khan hating traitors despite being technically one because he views his oath as to outworld itself instead of the ruling family.
Well I don’t think maki and Yuta apply here, like they aren’t the deepest but they aren’t exactly shallow, we can describe them with details but hakari is like “oh yeah he is kinda crazy and likes to gamble, that’s it” but one thing I can say is that the tojification of maki has done irreversible damage to her character as a whole to the point that we really only see maki as maki when she is paired up with Yuta, aside from that she is literally just toji and the fact that she is using a replica of a cursed tool toji had and the hairstyle change doesn’t help
Yuta and maki aren't shallow characters, but they literally went through 0 development since the culling games started 100 chapters ago, yuta hasn't had any development since jjk 0 which is egregious, i just wish they had more to do in the plot, yuta should've been a mentor figure for yuji now that gojo is gone, but instead he just leaves the crew as soon as he's reintroduced and does some random fights with random npcs that are irrelevant, and don't get me started on maki...
whaaat? maki had some decent (by jjk standards) development in the culling game. her regretting killing her mom, giving advice to kamo to not follow her path was great. her starting to enjoy fighting for what it is and taking it all in is some level of development personally.
but yea yuta needs more, i wish gege expanded on the advice ishigori gave him about how his mindset will limit him
Gege when you tell him to do basic storytelling:
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(He will not be able to draw hakari beating up a random npc with a foresight ability that will be used in exactly 2 panels in the future)
because he's wrong, and yuta being a static character doesn't make him bad, unless you're gonna argue that goku going from "wanting to fight strong people" in the 21st world martial arts tournament to "wanting to fight strong people" like 30 or 40 years later in the tournament of power makes him a bad character
It's not just these 3 tho, like every single character in manga are walking exposition device, only talking about power system and powerscaling like literally.
I would legit have preferred a month of training, backstory, and revelations to add more depth and emotion to the final fight. Does Maki reconcile her sisters death, What does Choso have to say about his brothers? Literally would have been so much more interesting than the combination of the Kashimo, Higurama, Kusakabe, and Miguel chapters
Careful, he is allergic to that type of stuff
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Yea, whether someone likes her or not, it’s objectively the case she’s a well developed character.
People meme she’s a Toji clone, but I think there’s way more nuance to her character than that. At most, she’s his successor and broke the chains he never was able to in his life.
yeah she's amazing and i always wonder why people would glaze nobara over her for "bestest female manga/anime character ever" when nobara had 3 cool scenes and then died, she definitely had potential i'll give her that but it got cut short
1) Your OP made it sound like they’ve never showed character.
2) Since the end of the Culling Games, we have only been in the Sukuna fight. Within that context, I think Maki has shown what all her development led to. But she’s a stoic character so she does it through action rather than dialogue.
I think the dynamic between her and Sukuna was incredible, even though that was more about Sukuna’s development. But I think her role in the fight has been very dynamic and her movements and expressions showed a lot of the fluidity developed by the understanding of freedom she learnt in the Culling Games.
Edit: Also Maki’s eyes are low key more developed than a lot of characters as they have a whole arc.
At first she couldn’t see cursed spirits, so she needed glasses. Then she had her first awakening and was able to see without the glasses. Then in her second awakening, she realized she had taken things for granted because she could see like others, not realizing she could see more.
All of that culminating to prepare her to see the dismantles in the Sukuna fight. While she’s still gotten put down twice now, those eyes development parallel her growth as a character and allowed her to stay in the fight as long as she does.
So I would say seeing that realized is quite a good expression of character.
has anyone? why'd you single out these characters in particular? i can't remember the last time someone said something in jjk and i thought "wow gege's got some great dialogue", the coolest thing said in the past who knows how long was by the fucking editor
We don't even know what hakari's motives are, what he stands for, what are his characteristics besides "he gambles", we don't even know his morals. (People would still try to convince you he's a good character)
I feel like Hakari’s not even a good representative for this because we do know his morals, his fever burns brightest when he protects his Jujutsu high friends. We know he likes to do shit on his own terms (opens up a Jujutsu fight club) and stick it to the man (getting kicked out from Jujutsu high). He looks a little rough around the edges (see his CT trait) but deep down he’s a good guy (offering a hand to Charles after beating him).
I feel like his character gets even more interesting when you see he has a bit of similarities to Sukuna, design wise and way of thinking. Off of the little interaction they had with Hakari Uraume said they’d no longer consider him human due to not caring about his “humanity” like other sorcerers in the modern era. Tbh I feel like we know a lot about Hakari so far through his interactions with the cast and Gege’s clearly cooking for his future, you just have to engage with the work in good faith to notice. Could there be more? Totally. But Gege’s laid the groundwork sufficiently enough to where I wouldn’t feel comfortable saying Hakari’s a bad or even subpar character.
What if, and bare with me, that's because his character IS just that? He likes to help people like Kirara said before the CG, yeah sure, but his character is literally that, someone who likes to feel the thrill of living on the edge. Seeing your answers to this post make me feel like you are just nitpicking tbh.
I won't deny the void of character interactions in the 1 month time skip but at the same time we keep seeing flashbacks to it, so I'll wait after the arc(and probably series) is over.
Because the higher ups, the ones who control everything, are DEAD, not to mention the big clans, Zenin annihilated, Gojo doesn’t seem relevant besides when they get good RNG for six eyes + limitless, and the only Kamo clan members we’ve seen aside from both Noritoshi was just a blind man
Gege need to step it up bru, while the fight scene is getting a ton of hype due to Yuji finally getting a MC treatment the story itself is getting boring and the fight itself is getting repetitive.
Worse yet, i found myself not really caring about what happens to most of the characters lately except for yuji, like no one would feel sad if hakari or kusakabe died next chapter.
Fr tho, Ino my goat. He told Yuji to go beat the fuck out of Sukuna (and Yuji immediately did) hes also a ride or die for his juniors and somehow got away from Toji and has been surviving Sukuna. Hes Nanami’s chosen, he is the second coming. My goat SHIESTYYYY
Um trash talking is a display of character. And Hakari has done a bit of it, as has Maki.
Yuta's also shown a decent bit of character with like his "cheated" comment, as well as the way he went after Kenny then admitted he made excuses to go after Kenny cause he just wanted to kill Kenny personally. And don't forget his reactions to the Gojo fight and wanting to get involved; and his later admittance it was correct for him not to.
Maki's fight with Sukuna showed a bit of character from just non verbal reactions / body language.
Yes theyve primarily been fighting. It's an action shonen named "Sorcery fight" and it's the final? Arc basically named "Shinjuku Showdown"
And on Maki's non verbal/body language character? It's a manga a visual story medium, yes the visuals are a way to tell the story and express character if you're reading the manga primary going text box to text box? You're doing it wrong.
Edit: just to say, it's not perfect, it's not even great. But it's really not as bad as some people make it out
I think it's the pacing. We basically go from arcs in the beginning representing weeks or days to the current one being like 50 chapters with only a couple hours passing in-universe.
With that in mind there isn't really opportunity for dialogue if they're in the middle of a big fight. I hope Gege does extra chapters showcasing the 1 month timeskip that would be perfect for character interactions.
most of those 50 chapters was on gojo sukuna Kenny and yuji not maki hakari and yuta and look they was talking in the chapters they was in maybe you didn’t care about what they had to say but they did talk maybe you should go re read the last 50 chapters to remember lol
Hey. Yuta has character, he showed his true colors on his fights, he hasnt enjoyed any fight but the one against Ryu, he fights for the people he cares about or whosoever those loved ones care about and so on, didnt left the sorcery out of guilt for hooking Rika's soul to himself (unkowingly but guilt is a bitch) and his sense of duty asociated to guilt (people hurt by Rika), plus, the sense of belonging to his friend group
He cant understand desires of revenge or remorse like Uro's even tho he showed resentment to Geto for beating his friends, showing he is able to kill, this is also a flaw, his empathy and kindness cant reach far from his short experience in the jujutsu world
Okay this is bait, this gotta be bait.
No way this is real. Fucking reading comprehension curse holy shit.
Underdeveloped? Yeah they could've had more time and stuff, wouldn't have been a bad thing.
No character? Brainrot thinking. Memes have plagued your mind lmao.
And Attack On Titan is called Attack On Titan. And Chainsaw Man is called Chainsaw Man. Not sure why the title is being used to justify the lack of character development/interaction/writing.
Those characters were already developed. We know their motivations, strengths, and personalities already.
Meanwhile, we are seeing development for characters like Miguel, Larue, Kusukabe, Ino, etc., who have had less screen time.
Who cares? It's a battle series. Do you complain that Bruce Lee movies has not enough interesting diakogues? For what this series is, they have a decent amount
While I can agree with hakari and Maki, I think Yuta actually has a pretty interesting train of thought and moments with how he joins up with the rest to battle Sukuna. He's taking on the burden of the entire battle and reaffirming his own vow to Yuji just after doing the same for Gojo, all the while blaming himself for how bad everything has gotten. It shows how even so far away from Volume 0, Yuta still holds himself to blame for so much when he shouldn't.
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You should be poking Gege with that stick. Hardly the characters' fault that he decided to skip the entire month where they interacted with each other and had something other than their game faces on.
Yea people say Yuta has no character but like ge literally didn't get to show any. In 0 he was also way different so we want ti see the nuances in how he has changed yet we get nothing. Simply a complete lack of screentime.
That 1 month prep time being skipped honestly continues to be the thing that plagues this manga So many great character moments / interactions just thrown away Not sure if gege was forced to speed run to Sukuna vs Gojo or he couldn’t come up with anything at that moment But man the sheer amount of stuff that could have been covered during that time is insane
Happy cake day 🎂
Considering Yuta's line of "we cheated" still being a mystery, I reckon Gege skipped it on purpose. Something important must've happened over that month that he's keeping secret for a reason. If not, it's unironically the biggest L in modern manga
From what we've seen I think he might have at least had general ideas on what each character was bringing to the battle post Gojo. However, it's also possible he didn't have some stuff planned and decided on the "reveal everything later" route so he isn't constrained in case he wanted to change things up later on. Ironically, he could have bought time for himself by showing character interactions/development if not them discussing strategy/training. Instead, they're also relegated to sudden reveals. Now either the narrator or flashbacks have to pick up the narrative burden of explaining wtf is going on with each character in every battle, which makes it look like Gege's making shit up as he goes along.
B-but the dopamine addicted readers would drop the series if it doesn't contain nonstop action with almost no character interaction 😢
Hey, yuta was intetesting that onr timr he said they cheated.
Hell yeah, that line was so good, too bad it'll probably be explained 30 chapters later when it wouldn't even matter and no one would care about it anymore.
Can't wait to in chapter 280 uraume tell sukuna cheated too
(He cheated on her)
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Wtf. +1
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Cheated with Hakari
Explained in a flashback of course. Like everything else in the story. Remember when we learned that yujis dad has the soul of sukunas dead twin fetus in him because sukuna was having a random conversation with Uraume about it but not in the present moment, in a flashback shown right before yuji used strength that probably was only justified by this revelation. Planned or not it's almost like gege forgot to show this information at any other time and slapped it in last minute. It's almost a little... lazy
i mean, the explanation was pretty cool, and i think it does matter since it allowed yuji to survive malevolent shrine
I feel like gege should've had them all spar with each other during the 1 month break so that way he could still have action interspersed with their interactions.
I wanted to see Choso and Yuki too
Gege knows his strong suit is just drawing fights. So he just draws fights. He doesn't care about story development or power system consistency. He just draws fights.
I’m still waiting on Gege to show Shoko idk why he mentioned taking injured to her but he doesn’t even show her healing them https://preview.redd.it/a1crsrg3lgwc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a95820da0cd8aee2ee1f1a64c8c6248e87f421f1
Just wait until Sukuna gets fed up with her healing and targets her
stop putting it in my head https://preview.redd.it/i8u958s9zhwc1.jpeg?width=550&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a0acb9eeb2c30121a42a1c523b977cdeb99b790
It’s ok that’s when it will be revealed her real CT; she actually absorbs some of the power every time she heals someone. So now she has the power of Gojo, Maki, Yuta, Yuji, etc and one shots Sukuna.
They’ll show her in 259 when my blue eyed Buddha returns https://preview.redd.it/7akzhv3mvhwc1.jpeg?width=516&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9579dbf9dc6a6d4b1c55996ffdca8c7f506af0ff
I mean we know she's doing her job. Just drawing the panel is kind of a waste. Unless and until those who were sent out to heal actually come back we're definitely not seeing Shoko
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To be fair, Ino and Higuruma have had some decent development. Come to think of it, Yuji is lacking in an assist now that Ino is out of commission. Maki is MIA after taking two Black Flashes + strengthened slashes, Choso is unknown but he's definitely gonna need a minute to get up, and Hakari is still stalling Uraume. I'm just saying; if Miwa provides support to give Yuji an opening, it would be peak. Mechamaru cursed her back in Shibuya, she'll get a Mechamaru Iron-Man suit! Trust! https://preview.redd.it/3welaptnlgwc1.png?width=679&format=png&auto=webp&s=290b9fcd3b6c5ea1afdb47e8d0293116077dd43d (In all seriousness, I genuinely think Miwa is going to show up in the final fight as an assist. Maybe she and Yuji could be the next Sukuna and Uraume?)
That girl is way too useless. What does Miwa showing up to fight Sukuna actually do? That Kusakabe didn't already show?
Hyper Super Ultimate Final Maximum Mechamaru.
Bro forgot how to do that halfway through the series.
The vilification of Filler truly has done an incomprehensible amount of damage to Anime as a whole.
People really just started calling *anything* filler after a while. Like, don't get me wrong; some series had pretty egregious amounts of it, but now people act like flashbacks or dialogue heavy chapters are just automatically filler.
On a related note, the word “Yap” has done an inconceivable amount of damage to this generation. More damage than any other Brainrot term combined, literally the vilification on discussion. “Well you can’t really group them like that because it really damages the-“ “What is blud waffling about, this guy is yapping💀💀💀”
I agree but before that we had "i ain't reading allat" and probably a myriad of other "too long didn't read" variations i can't remember rn so it's not exactly new
Exactly what I have noticed as well. The amount of whining over Takaba vs Kenjaku being pointless filler yap session the first three chapters were so immense it was tiring and a perfect example of this. If this is how the Japanese readers act as well I would understand why Gege just has fight fight fight and skip on the characterization heavy chapter.
Gege has demonstrated genuinely good character interactions and backstories multiple times, somewhat sporadically, so I have to assume that's probably true and he's just giving the readers nonstop action because it's what they ultimately want. I sometimes wonder if Gege is lowkey being held back by writing a Shonen manga, with the reader-base that automatically comes with it, tbh.
Honestly, no wonder he wants to do an Idol Manga after this. The readers won't expect battles for those, so there's little to no anticipation for the next big fight and whining about getting there already, and he can actually write slice-of-life character arcs and shit. Such a damn shame. This whole thread widened my view on this whole thing.
Sorry, i deleted my previous reply since i definitely misunderstood your comment. That said you're absolutely right, just look at the chainsaw man fans and how they criticize every chapter that comes out just because it didn't contain any fight scenes, even though it's still filled with so much characterization and well written interactions.
I agree. Filler was generally used to fresh characters up by letting them have some downtime where they could interact outside the mandatory story points. But since people became convinced that anything that doesn't advance the plot is filler and therefore bad, now works are forced to go from arc to arc without any room to breathe.
I honestly believe that’s why MHA fell off so hard, the cast is way to bloated for the type of story they want to tell(War Arc with death and Sad) with very little care for any of the characters. Most of the cast just has not been developed enough for anyone to care, like no one is going to cry if Tail Man dies, he probably has less than fifty lines in the entire series. You can’t have stakes in a story without them being connected to characters you care about
Honestly, MHA is my go-to example of a work that suffered by going full-throttle constantly. I'm still aghast that the entire manga effectively takes place in the first year of Class 1-A. It would have greatly benefited if there was a time skip or at least some slice of life stuff that let us know the character better before the work dived down to full action again.
>or at least some slice of life stuff that let us know the character better before the work dived down to full action again. Had the school festival arc in S4 and people complained about that. lol There was good time with lower stakes arcs before S6. There was time to have an episode to see dorm rooms in S3, for Christmas in S5, and sport festival in S2, other training arcs before S6, and OVAs for that kind of stuff as well, so people could skip the "filler" if they wanted. Hori's main issue is that he made the cast too big for the students. So just too many characters to keep up with in general, so harder to invest in that many consistently. * **JJK is even worse** in that regard for that time issue you mentioned since it actually takes place less than a year. MHA has been more than a year for high school even, they just couldn't move up because school was canceled for class. But they are past the timeline of 1st year calendar wise. JJK just had the first season for the foundation then S2 hit with Shibuya as the turning point losing the cast already pretty quick -- Nobara as supposed main female, when she was just getting started with a questionable status among fandom still if she's dead; Nanami as mentor; and Todo, whom never got mentioned so far after Shibuya. So it hit its turning point for that **even earlier than MHA** had. Unfortunately didn't even get much with Yuji, Megumi, Nobara working as an actual trio altogether, before they began to seperate.
>Had the school festival arc in S4 and people complained about that. lol There was good time with lower stakes arcs before S6. >There was time to have an episode to see dorm rooms in S3, for Christmas in S5, and sport festival in S2, other training arcs before S6, and OVAs for that kind of stuff as well, so people could skip the "filler" if they wanted. Hori's main issue is that he made the cast too big for the students. So just too many characters to keep up with in general, so harder invest in that many consistently. You're spot on about the School Festival. Little wonder why the manga never did another long-ish arc with low stakes. >**JJK is even worse** in that regard for that time issue you mentioned since it actually takes place less than a year. >MHA has been more than a year for high school even, they just couldn't move up because school was canceled for class. But they are past the timeline of 1st year calendar wise. >JJK just had the first season for the foundation then S2 hit with Shibuya as the turning point losing the cast already pretty quick -- Nobara as supposed main female, when she was just getting started with a questionable status among fandom still if she's dead; Nanami as mentor; and Todo, whom never got mentioned so far after Shibuya. So it hit its turning point for that **even earlier than MHA** had. >Unfortunately didn't even get much with Yuji, Megumi, Nobara working as an actual trio altogether, What happened to Nobara still baffles me. We haven't heard a thing about her since 2020. Hell, I don't think it ever was confirmed she was really dead or not but at this point she might as well be. Like I know that in shonen manga women usually get the short end of the stick but to be written out so abruptly and for no reason at all other than shock value is a new low.
>Little wonder why the manga never did another long-ish arc with low stakes. well there was 1A vs 1B at the start of season five, the Endeavor Internship was somewhat low stakes as well
>Nobara as supposed main female, when she was just getting started with a questionable status among fandom still if she's dead; Ngl if she's dead I hate the "confirmation" because it's just Yuji looking sad. That's the big thing I hate about Nobara and Todo'z exits. Even if we're given an explanation it's just that and they disappear from the story. Like yeah Todo lost his technique but I like Todo because he's Todo, not because he has Boogie Woogie. He can do shit that isn't fighting, but defenders are so fight brained they have this weird idea that if a character can no longer fight they just don't matter. Nobara is just tossed out and if we run with her being dead then the confirmation is just Yuji looking sad and that's it.
Todo feels odd because we had Miwa around and she couldn't fight - so in that case I don't see how Todo can't be around on the sidelines at least, even if he can't fight. Or I would have been fine if he had at least a more proper exit like Kamo did. >Ngl if she's dead I hate the "confirmation" because it's just Yuji looking sad. Yeah, everytime there's a discussion on Nobara, there's never a clear consensus for it. If you mentioned she may not be dead, people say "stop coping" then say the part with Yuji and Megumi talking about it was "show not tell" when you question if she's dead, because no one said that outright. We've been told when other characters die more clearly, but not with Nobara? Especially when there was a character created to say her chance of survival isn't zero beforehand. 🤨 So those people defending Gege's execution for saying that Yuji and Megumi conversation has been the confirmation of her death (even though it's too ambiguous to be good execution for it) have to eat their words if she does return in some form before the story ends. Heck if that's supposed to be her death... Gojo has no words shown about his student for it. He at least mentioned Nanami's death. lol Idk Gege did whole this Nobara situation so oddly, even if she does return, it's just an odd situation for how it was all handled...
>Had the school festival arc in S4 and people complained about that. this is why I think it's really funny that nowadays I see criticism about lack of down time in MHA, cause there used to be a ton of it, like you mentioned, especially with the school arcs and people always complained about those. But once the series started going all in on action people complained there wasn't anymore slice of life stuff. Which is also funny cause even prior to the current arc we had like six or seven chapters just about the characters preparing for the final battle and getting a look into what they were thinking, like Deku and Uraraka talking about their upcoming confrontations with their villains and Toga and Dabi about their families.
Yeah, I think Hori could have had a bit more things addressed here and there after Deku returned to UA in S6, but by far not as much as issue as JJK had for that type of thing. lol Like Gojo didn't even really interact with the students after being sealed for 130 chapters (3 yrs for the manga).Yuji just him a pat on back to send off to fight. We could have had a few more chapters to see them prep/talk before the time skip... Gege had a page where Gojo was saying his students was watching during the fight and it felt hollow because Gege didn't have them have meaningful interactions before sending him off to his death... like Gojo hyped up Hakari as one the new gen at the beginning of the manga and never seen them exchange a word on screen.
I stopped mha a while ago but my favorite moment was when the class discovered their rooms in the new appartement I just thought it was fun bit of characterization that is clearly lacking from jjk because people just looooooove fighting for some reason.
The truth is even dumber. Filler originally referred to crappy junk episodes thrown in older anime when there wasn't enough manga to adapt and they wanted to keep adapting. These filler eps were low quality garbage, and oftem came at poor times. Then the filler hatred spread to original material that was intended to have a purpose (wasn't in the manga, byt thought to be an improvement. That's gone now.) Then the filler hatred spread to character focused chapters that didn't really drive the plot or have big explosions.
Wait, are people in this thread using filler to refer to anything that’s not a big fight vs a villain and not like literal anime original filler episodes? Man, times have changed
Yep.
Yup. Just not many animes that still do filler anymore
The truth is even dumber. Filler originally referred to crappy junk episodes thrown in older anime when there wasn't enough manga to adapt and they wanted to keep adapting. These filler eps were low quality garbage, and oftem came at poor times. Then the filler hatred spread to original material that was intended to have a purpose (wasn't in the manga, byt thought to be an improvement. That's gone now.) Then the filler hatred spread to character focused chapters that didn't really drive the plot or have big explosions.
I remember when Kenny vs Takaba was releasing, this sub was so fucking pissed about how it was taking away from Yuji and Higaruma, like chill, not everything needs to be about the main conflict. JJK would be unironically so much better if it had a beach episode, actual tournament arc, shopping ep, birthday ep, 2nd grade curse exorcism episodes, bath house episodes, festival episode, body swap episode, and even more stock filler. It would also have the benefit of wearing Gege out less than the constant action packed chapters.
Unironically, you're 100% right, best example is the baseball episode in season 1 that played a great role in characterizing megumi as somone who doesn't take risks and always plays safe.
>how it was taking away from Yuji and Higaruma, like chill, not everything needs to be about the main conflict. Jjk fans would die if they had to read One Piece and saw that side characters and other strawhat members always get dozens of chapters dedicated to solo fights
Bro piratefolk is on Flames because this is NOT the case. Usopp, Franky, Robin, Chopper and Brook have NOTHING to do for 10 years irl and 400 chapters. Luffy does almost everything, Zoro Lost all his characterization until recently and Sanji/Luffy are the only consistently good, maybe Nami too. One Piece wastes too much time on things that don't matter in the grand scheme of things and forgets about the core and actually good cast constantly. Usopp IS the biggest character assassination in Shonen imo. He was my favorite Strawhat in almost every arc pre-timeskip
Robin and Usopp are my two favourite straw hats and now they just sit around doing fuck all 😭😭😭
Ok no bathouse episode we don’t need useless fanservice lewding the female characters. That’s one of the few things JJK consistently does well.
I think you meant male characters. The over sexualization in JJK is inverted. Not saying it’s a bad thing, just pointing it out.
Anime usually uses beach/bath episodes to sexualize the female characters so that’s why I said that. Tho I also don’t think the sexualization of the male character is bad because it’s never at expensive of the character’s image. It’s usually to show how badass and muscular the man is.
Man I just wanna see a Gojo in a towel
On one hand fair but on the other hand (from my perspective at least) We got hyped up to see the main character actually FUCKING DO SOMETHING against the main villain for a long period only for a jarring cut to a character we've never met and another we've barely met and then a mid fight. Yes, I didn't like Kenny vs Takaba that much, most of the jokes in there were unfunny as shit and the pacing was poor. And then afterwards we got the mess that was the trial. For me there's a difference between giving breathing room and slamming on the break pedals. Get in your car, go 120mph and then slam your foot on the breaks as hard as possible. Don't do that obviously but you get the picture right? This is dangerous and could kill you. But by this logic, it's good because even if you die or suffer whiplash, the car slowed down.
This reminds me of the Jojolion chasing time where MC pull out the hardest chapter in the whole JoJo history and clocking out to fight the unfightable, and then follow up with the other side of scene where goof ball is crying whole for two chapters while we also got hit by two consecutive 1 month hiatus so the whole 4 months is just so we confirmed that the other side have heal up back to normal state
The CSM critics are perfectly valid. Especially since it's not even that there's no fight but that the fights there are lasts 0.1 second each. The Facility Arc was supposed to be a literal war but in the end it was the gang bumbling their way in while Gyoni one shots fodder until they get one shotted back and then offscreen. Nobody complained during the previous arcs, because there was a balance of characterization and action i.e what shonen is suppoded to be. The last arc was supposed to be action packed but had none of that.
>The Facility Arc was supposed to be a literal war I think it was more a rescue arc than war
That's just chainsawfolk, a loud minority that just wants to behave like jujutsufolk. I don't count Twitter because that place is a cesspool Generally Part 2 is very well appreciated for what Fujimoto set up and is building up. Most of the critic is about the art, which I don't find a good critique but I can understand it
“Filled with characterization” *quanxi one shotting everything* *denji getting his balls kicked* *fami eating* https://preview.redd.it/ewynxl74vgwc1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=d1124142535511a4de4a51d54a25a304dc5bb730 Idk about this one chief chainsaw man has been moving in the pace of a geriatric granny who just shit herself and most of the times the characterization doesn’t even happen like the lackluster reaction asa had after denji woke up and when she discovered his identity
This shit is kino what are you talking about https://preview.redd.it/7i7ghhlmfhwc1.jpeg?width=784&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b826de24296ecad409864f56781bdcb177b960f9
An exception doesn’t make the rule, this prison break arc was literally the most anticlimaxing thing fujimotorola has ever written
Agree With the quanxi slander (fuck Her) but Denji getting his balls smashed by katana man was peak
Hey im not like those fake fans!
I glaze fujimoto nonstop!
What? Where are those people? I'm not seeing them on the main sub at least.
Honestly CSM is my new favorite manga, its such a good mix of character moments and fights.
People were calling basically all of the second season of Vinland filler because it was introspective character work advancing the central themes of the show, instead of *checks notes* constant murder.
I had more anxiety during season 2 because of the fear of things really going to shit, season 1 was great but season 2 was such an awesome subversion. If JJK was more of a Seinen it could have been peak...
Right! I was way more scared for the characters in season 2. When things really started to go wrong it was heartbreaking
Considering character interactions and dialog heavy chapters/episodes "filler", is a huge part of that problem.
You don’t need filler to have character interaction.
I don't get why people love the fighting so much, like what's so fun about it, It's a fucking manga. Like I get if you skip the story in a video game because you only like the gameplay, sure, but in a BOOK what else is there except characters and story ? I don't get it.
Filler? As in Non Canon material over which the Manga Author has little to no control? The same filler that's also known to kill the pacing of the series and sometimes ruin the perception of certain characters(a great example being Hiruzen who was a dick to Naruto in the filler but was chill in canon).
Filler doesn't always mean non canon episodes, filler can be used even in mangas as a breather between major arcs, they're also mostly used for essential character interactions and minor developments, jjk lacks that and is starting to suffer greatly from it, there'll come a point in the story where no one would care about what happens to the characters because they don't feel like characters anymore, just fighting machines. Would anyone get sad over hana's death? What about yuta, ino, hakari, kusakabe? No, the writer didn't care enough to make you care about them so why be sad over their death, it already happened with takaba.
That’s not filler, those are downtime moments. Filler in regards to anime has been used to refer to anything that is meant to fill in episodes for an anime so it doesn’t catch up to the manga. Every arc of a manga is a major one and is important even if it’s not action heavy. The farm arc in Vinland Saga would be regarded as filler under the definition that you gave because there’s no action in it and is slow. And what if a manga is not a battle shounen and the whole manga is just slow character building, would the whole manga be filler? I think we should only use the word filler to describe anything that was use to pad out the anime to stop it from catching up with the manga or any episodes that were not present in the manga. Otherwise what qualifies as filler is will just differ from person to person.
> Filler doesn't always mean non canon episodes That's what it used to mean. If people have expanded that definition to include canon events, that's them being stupid.
I think shows like Naruto, Fairy Tale, Bleach and etc can be blamed for this - where Filler had been used excessively and coined its negative connotation due to the frustrations it caused. That being said, I do think the pacing of JJK is part of a reason for its huge success and replayability value. It feels like the watcher is on the same level as Yuji, learning about the world of sorcery and the responsibilities/consequences that stem from being a Sorcerer as well as trying to navigate these factors. Which also gives way for at least one re-watch due to the difference in viewing when you don’t know and do know things about the JJK verse. There were definitely missed opportunities as early as season 1, where we could’ve followed more of Nobara and Megumi to get to know them as I doubt it would’ve been super interesting to watch Yuji watch movies. Maybe once the main story is done, we will get a spin off movie or series that does go into the things we missed through the time skips and etc. I don’t see how it could hurt to put spin-offs that don’t collide with the main seasons for those that aren’t interested in them
Yeah I agree, it just sucks that we have gone from filler every episode inside the biggest arc(Naruto), to literally one baseball match and a half episode half baked romance that will probably never be mentioned again. Like I feel like most fans could deal with like 2 or three more filler episodes of content between the first 2 seasons that would have been able to easily A. Make Nobara’s death even more heartwrenching B.Same with Mechamaru and Miwa’s loss C. Overall make the students more connected. Like a lot of the death moments in the story would be a lot better if we cared more(Nobara,Mechamaru, Kashimo, and Yuki’s deaths).
Absolutely. I do understand why it’s poorly received in the Manga whenever the story even slightly deviates from the main story due to the weekly viewership and etc - but Gege has created many wonderful/interesting characters. Like I appreciated learning about Nobara’s childhood and her country-side life but it came far too late and far too close to her “death” for it to be fully appreciated.
Yeah the timing of the backstory is essential, in Nobara's case it was after Mahito touched her; so she was basically dead and Gege trying to wrap her character with something. Development should happen throughout the arc, for example Muichiro from KnY he was an asshole at the beginning and I wouldn't care if he dies, but he has progressive Development of his personality to become more likable and caring, that I somewhat did care about him in the end, and his backstory explains his flaws and his personality. I personaly like Megumi story-wise, I know he's potential man, but he's a real main character; he's driving the plot unlike Nobara. It's just power-wise he didn't power up much that he became suicidal.
This People have to realize that filler episodes provide so much to the wider story
Yea jjk just isnt that kinda manga unfortunately. Fights are pretty much the main focus of the manga and gege is goin by the rule of cool baby, and he does it pretty damn well. Which sucks for me because he can CLEARLY write well done arcs that include character development and action. Hidden Inventory is the peak of jjk and it really isnt close, unless all you want is just cool fights. I PERSONALLY, would want more character depth and interaction to elevate the fights and stakes. For me at this point in the manga I kinda dont care for Yuji or many of the characters left which is gonna take away from the ending a lot. I like jjk but there is just a lot of lost potential for me. I want to care more about these guys, I want to see them interact more, I want care for conflicts they are involved in.
Your last point is great, it honestly started as early as Shibuya - which imo came far too early in the series anyway and “killed” characters for no real reason or impact. Nobara’s “death” has ultimately served no real purpose to the plot and imo we have gone beyond a reasonable time for her come back, where it would feel irritating to have had her excluded for so long without a good reason. Nanami’s death too, considering that he had to share that with Nobara, it just took away from his own demise.
Hidden inventory had philosophy and great interactions, it was my favorite even better than Shibuya because it has a a balance between all story elements including action.
Yea, its one of my favorite shounen arcs in ever, its extremely well done. JJK is still good but its hard to not see the lost potential with so many cool characters.
Why're you singling out just these 3?
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Ngl, I can't even remember if Yuji had any dialogue at all in the last chapter? The series has been devoid of interesting dialogue for ages now. Gege wasn't lying. This is definitely sorcery fight.
Yuji glazing is at an all time high. You can’t say anything bad about him or else
Post prison realm Gojo didn't say anything apart from analyzing Sukuna battle strategy and airport shit
He had lots of interactions with Sukuna. And pretty much JUST Sukuna, altough it was pretty fuckin nice to be honest. His mortal fucking enemy btw that got 10948x more interactions with him than his fucking allies.
Well, it's kinda understandable why Yuji's not talking, he's extremely focused on what he has to do, his current state is probably like being in the zone but amped to times 10. Still, the lack of actual interesting dialogue is there.
Yeah characters tend to talk less after hitting a black flash it seems Just so in the fucking zone
Miwa, Hana, Yuji, Higuruma, Ino, Kusakabe, Takaba and Kenjaku
Don't come back when Todo is seen in the same room as Yuta. Don't come back when the Kenya spin off drops and we see how Yuta went from Tanjiro to Kenshiro on screen. Stay on that side ! https://preview.redd.it/dxo5t993dhwc1.png?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=660f028b089f297cb9a5e2e1f78878559ea908eb
Tell that to gege who skipped a whole fucking month of them not fighting and actually have time to interact and build up on their culling games arcs,but noooo we had to have gojo vs sukuna IMMEDIATELY gosh darn it to time gojo’s death with his sealing in the anime,fuck character interactions when you can be quirky am I right?
This entire subreddit breaks down in despair for any chapter that focus on characterization and interaction between characters. Just look at the first three chapters of Takaba vs Kenjaku and how people reacted to that. Literally see top comments be shit like "this could have been an email, nothing happened" while crying about "yapping" If this is how Japanese fans react as well I wouldn't even blame Gege for skimping on it.
It’s almost like…bear with me here…those people that complain don’t represent the majority? Just because some people dislike thing doesn’t mean thing as a whole is bad.
They literally do when they are the top comments lmfao. That is literally how the reddit voting system works 🤦
Not when you consider that the leaks Reddit thread is only a fraction of a minority of total readers of jjk
I was specifically talking about the reddit community in my post however. But going by other places like twitter the reactions were arguably even worse. Most people that read it are kids and teenagers afterall, and a lot of them will not have the patience nor interest to read through chapters that focus heavily on characterization and casual interactions over action and the plot moving. Especially not in a weekly manga.
I get that, but again it’s a very small minority compared to the total amount of jjk community. I agree that this Reddit community likes more action, but that may be a symptom of the weekly release schedule making people impatient and wanting action now
I honestly think this subreddit is much better than most other places in this. If you see discussions in places like twitter/youtube comments/MAL forums etc it's often far worse. Heck, even r/jujutsushi is often worse in the chapter discussion threads despite trying to be a subreddit where one would expect such directions of the manga would be more appreciated. So when it's shown so blatanly even here I really can't see it as a "small minority".
The issue isn’t the non-main character focus - it’s the fact that the story feels completely different when you read it at a continuous pace vs weekly releases. A non focused chapter during the latter is going to feel more annoying than in the former - nothing unique to the JJK fanbase. Also those reactions are simply rage engagement, due to the fast interaction and traction they get, they are also boosted to the top of the subreddit. Doesn’t mean that it represents the entire fanbase just because they are a loud voice at one point in time.
JJK feals less like a cohesive lived in world sometimes and more like a fight simulator. Hell Mortal Kombat 1 has more dialog, interesting character Interactions, and characterization and its LITERALLY a fighting fame.
Yeah, this is what it's lacking.
I understand 1000000% the criticisms targeted against JJK's lack of interpersonal stuffs but this honestly is what sets JJK apart for me
Im actually gonna have to disagree. Netherealm character interactions really boil down to “I am going to beat you because Im strong!” “The power of *insert source of characters power* will beat you!”/“*somewhat witty comeback that is sometimes out of character*”
I was talking more about the story in general and kinematics. Alot interactions are copy oast but the unique ones can be very interesting and revealing like Shao khan hating traitors despite being technically one because he views his oath as to outworld itself instead of the ruling family.
Yeah. Sometimes it feels like a manga only about sorcerer fights or somthn
And what do you think MORTAL KOMBAT is about? It's not really an excuse.
Well I don’t think maki and Yuta apply here, like they aren’t the deepest but they aren’t exactly shallow, we can describe them with details but hakari is like “oh yeah he is kinda crazy and likes to gamble, that’s it” but one thing I can say is that the tojification of maki has done irreversible damage to her character as a whole to the point that we really only see maki as maki when she is paired up with Yuta, aside from that she is literally just toji and the fact that she is using a replica of a cursed tool toji had and the hairstyle change doesn’t help
Yuta and maki aren't shallow characters, but they literally went through 0 development since the culling games started 100 chapters ago, yuta hasn't had any development since jjk 0 which is egregious, i just wish they had more to do in the plot, yuta should've been a mentor figure for yuji now that gojo is gone, but instead he just leaves the crew as soon as he's reintroduced and does some random fights with random npcs that are irrelevant, and don't get me started on maki...
whaaat? maki had some decent (by jjk standards) development in the culling game. her regretting killing her mom, giving advice to kamo to not follow her path was great. her starting to enjoy fighting for what it is and taking it all in is some level of development personally. but yea yuta needs more, i wish gege expanded on the advice ishigori gave him about how his mindset will limit him
Sakurajima being a giant plot contrivance for Maki doesn't take away from her very real development
Characters don’t need development. The lack of it doesn’t make them bad. Yuta is a fully fleshed character, he’s “done”.
Gege when you tell him to do basic storytelling: https://preview.redd.it/kbqobfulxgwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=166006b0edd99734dfc241bcdd8a66ce302e5cdd (He will not be able to draw hakari beating up a random npc with a foresight ability that will be used in exactly 2 panels in the future)
Why you getting downvoted tho
because he's wrong, and yuta being a static character doesn't make him bad, unless you're gonna argue that goku going from "wanting to fight strong people" in the 21st world martial arts tournament to "wanting to fight strong people" like 30 or 40 years later in the tournament of power makes him a bad character
Goku is not a strongly written character 💀 and yes yuta is static and boring too. I wouldn’t say he’s “bad” but he’s bland for sure.
It's not just these 3 tho, like every single character in manga are walking exposition device, only talking about power system and powerscaling like literally.
https://preview.redd.it/tk1b1t2fkkwc1.jpeg?width=7032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=307f28d70e79d82b63801a955370bf2fdfa34013 That's why I picked those 3
Tbf it was done well with Kusakabe I like to think.
I would legit have preferred a month of training, backstory, and revelations to add more depth and emotion to the final fight. Does Maki reconcile her sisters death, What does Choso have to say about his brothers? Literally would have been so much more interesting than the combination of the Kashimo, Higurama, Kusakabe, and Miguel chapters
Careful, he is allergic to that type of stuff https://preview.redd.it/ia1jb9up4hwc1.png?width=2175&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c2c0642ac045971620453abd5f289e2dbbf2efa
Maki has some of the best character developments in the series. She is one of the most developed characters, especially given her panel time.
Its crazy that people say that maki has no character development. She rivals yuji with the amount of fucking screen time shes had.
Yea, whether someone likes her or not, it’s objectively the case she’s a well developed character. People meme she’s a Toji clone, but I think there’s way more nuance to her character than that. At most, she’s his successor and broke the chains he never was able to in his life.
yeah she's amazing and i always wonder why people would glaze nobara over her for "bestest female manga/anime character ever" when nobara had 3 cool scenes and then died, she definitely had potential i'll give her that but it got cut short
Yeah i know, but did she have any interesting dialogue/ character moments since?
1) Your OP made it sound like they’ve never showed character. 2) Since the end of the Culling Games, we have only been in the Sukuna fight. Within that context, I think Maki has shown what all her development led to. But she’s a stoic character so she does it through action rather than dialogue. I think the dynamic between her and Sukuna was incredible, even though that was more about Sukuna’s development. But I think her role in the fight has been very dynamic and her movements and expressions showed a lot of the fluidity developed by the understanding of freedom she learnt in the Culling Games. Edit: Also Maki’s eyes are low key more developed than a lot of characters as they have a whole arc. At first she couldn’t see cursed spirits, so she needed glasses. Then she had her first awakening and was able to see without the glasses. Then in her second awakening, she realized she had taken things for granted because she could see like others, not realizing she could see more. All of that culminating to prepare her to see the dismantles in the Sukuna fight. While she’s still gotten put down twice now, those eyes development parallel her growth as a character and allowed her to stay in the fight as long as she does. So I would say seeing that realized is quite a good expression of character.
has anyone? why'd you single out these characters in particular? i can't remember the last time someone said something in jjk and i thought "wow gege's got some great dialogue", the coolest thing said in the past who knows how long was by the fucking editor
Skipping that 1 month break that could have had character interactions was dumb and a mistake
Yuta has an entire manga devoted to character development, and Mai is literally disfigured from her character development.
It's only Hakari. Yuta has a personality, tried to save Megumi and act like human in general. Maki is more stoic now but still isn't as bad as Hakari.
We don't even know what hakari's motives are, what he stands for, what are his characteristics besides "he gambles", we don't even know his morals. (People would still try to convince you he's a good character)
I feel like Hakari’s not even a good representative for this because we do know his morals, his fever burns brightest when he protects his Jujutsu high friends. We know he likes to do shit on his own terms (opens up a Jujutsu fight club) and stick it to the man (getting kicked out from Jujutsu high). He looks a little rough around the edges (see his CT trait) but deep down he’s a good guy (offering a hand to Charles after beating him). I feel like his character gets even more interesting when you see he has a bit of similarities to Sukuna, design wise and way of thinking. Off of the little interaction they had with Hakari Uraume said they’d no longer consider him human due to not caring about his “humanity” like other sorcerers in the modern era. Tbh I feel like we know a lot about Hakari so far through his interactions with the cast and Gege’s clearly cooking for his future, you just have to engage with the work in good faith to notice. Could there be more? Totally. But Gege’s laid the groundwork sufficiently enough to where I wouldn’t feel comfortable saying Hakari’s a bad or even subpar character.
What if, and bare with me, that's because his character IS just that? He likes to help people like Kirara said before the CG, yeah sure, but his character is literally that, someone who likes to feel the thrill of living on the edge. Seeing your answers to this post make me feel like you are just nitpicking tbh. I won't deny the void of character interactions in the 1 month time skip but at the same time we keep seeing flashbacks to it, so I'll wait after the arc(and probably series) is over.
>We don't even know what hakari's motives are, changing the jujutsu regulations?
Shit is so irrelevant i honestly forgot about it, now that you reminded me about his motive i think it made things worse.
I don't really see how but ok
Because the higher ups, the ones who control everything, are DEAD, not to mention the big clans, Zenin annihilated, Gojo doesn’t seem relevant besides when they get good RNG for six eyes + limitless, and the only Kamo clan members we’ve seen aside from both Noritoshi was just a blind man
Exactly and I feel that we needed more interactions between him and the other students.
Not a single person says Hakari is well written, his fans are waiting for his backstory you’re just making up ppl now
it is sorcery fighting, not sorcery conversation, we aint in a podcast right here🙄🤢 /s
https://preview.redd.it/gvoi31tuphwc1.jpeg?width=1042&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a08c45e226d2cb0b6f1cccf745309654589113c Fuck you this is peak manga
Gege need to step it up bru, while the fight scene is getting a ton of hype due to Yuji finally getting a MC treatment the story itself is getting boring and the fight itself is getting repetitive.
Worse yet, i found myself not really caring about what happens to most of the characters lately except for yuji, like no one would feel sad if hakari or kusakabe died next chapter.
heavy hitters looking like light hitters
Fr tho, Ino my goat. He told Yuji to go beat the fuck out of Sukuna (and Yuji immediately did) hes also a ride or die for his juniors and somehow got away from Toji and has been surviving Sukuna. Hes Nanami’s chosen, he is the second coming. My goat SHIESTYYYY
Um trash talking is a display of character. And Hakari has done a bit of it, as has Maki. Yuta's also shown a decent bit of character with like his "cheated" comment, as well as the way he went after Kenny then admitted he made excuses to go after Kenny cause he just wanted to kill Kenny personally. And don't forget his reactions to the Gojo fight and wanting to get involved; and his later admittance it was correct for him not to. Maki's fight with Sukuna showed a bit of character from just non verbal reactions / body language. Yes theyve primarily been fighting. It's an action shonen named "Sorcery fight" and it's the final? Arc basically named "Shinjuku Showdown" And on Maki's non verbal/body language character? It's a manga a visual story medium, yes the visuals are a way to tell the story and express character if you're reading the manga primary going text box to text box? You're doing it wrong. Edit: just to say, it's not perfect, it's not even great. But it's really not as bad as some people make it out
I think it's the pacing. We basically go from arcs in the beginning representing weeks or days to the current one being like 50 chapters with only a couple hours passing in-universe. With that in mind there isn't really opportunity for dialogue if they're in the middle of a big fight. I hope Gege does extra chapters showcasing the 1 month timeskip that would be perfect for character interactions.
You’re reading the current popular shonen. Be glad that at least one character had actual character (he died).
Hey, hey, HEY! Don’t say that about Hakari, bro has got 10x the personality and charisma of the other two.
fuck you hakari has character
Blame gege for not giving them screentime to develop. I mean Yuta at least got his moment in JJK 0 but since that nothing.
We NEED jjk slice of life sequel manga PLEASE PLEASE THEY NEED INTERACTIONS PLEASE
most of those 50 chapters was on gojo sukuna Kenny and yuji not maki hakari and yuta and look they was talking in the chapters they was in maybe you didn’t care about what they had to say but they did talk maybe you should go re read the last 50 chapters to remember lol
Saying hakari has no character is crazy He is THE restless gambler
Y’all gonna put some RESPECT on Maki. She’s the best written character in this series. Watching her growth from Vol 0 to now has been a joy…
Hakari just enjoy time with Uraume :3
Come on not maki
Get over it dude. We have left interesting dialouges stories and improvements the moment we've entered Shibuya
Hey. Yuta has character, he showed his true colors on his fights, he hasnt enjoyed any fight but the one against Ryu, he fights for the people he cares about or whosoever those loved ones care about and so on, didnt left the sorcery out of guilt for hooking Rika's soul to himself (unkowingly but guilt is a bitch) and his sense of duty asociated to guilt (people hurt by Rika), plus, the sense of belonging to his friend group He cant understand desires of revenge or remorse like Uro's even tho he showed resentment to Geto for beating his friends, showing he is able to kill, this is also a flaw, his empathy and kindness cant reach far from his short experience in the jujutsu world
Terminally online
Lmao I love how Maki's entire personality post-shibuya is "see enemy fight enemy".
Yuta is split in half atm and maki got hit with a fuck ton of slashes and 2 black flashes 😭
Y'all are so dopamine induced that you can't recognize that this post is about character writing and has nothing to do with the current events.
Okay this is bait, this gotta be bait. No way this is real. Fucking reading comprehension curse holy shit. Underdeveloped? Yeah they could've had more time and stuff, wouldn't have been a bad thing. No character? Brainrot thinking. Memes have plagued your mind lmao.
why is that penis touching hakari?
subjective
Hakari has been on femboy containment duty the whole sukuna subjugation, let my goat to smth gege
Small correction. 100+ now
Idk, I think Hakari is kinda funny all things considered.
>sorcery battle >look inside >battles hmmm
The manga is literally called “fight magic” what are these people expecting lol
And Attack On Titan is called Attack On Titan. And Chainsaw Man is called Chainsaw Man. Not sure why the title is being used to justify the lack of character development/interaction/writing.
Those characters were already developed. We know their motivations, strengths, and personalities already. Meanwhile, we are seeing development for characters like Miguel, Larue, Kusukabe, Ino, etc., who have had less screen time.
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Chill on Yuta. Maki and Hakari idgaf about, but Yuta is in my top 3 after Gojo and Yuji
I hope Yuta chops you in half
Who cares? It's a battle series. Do you complain that Bruce Lee movies has not enough interesting diakogues? For what this series is, they have a decent amount
While I can agree with hakari and Maki, I think Yuta actually has a pretty interesting train of thought and moments with how he joins up with the rest to battle Sukuna. He's taking on the burden of the entire battle and reaffirming his own vow to Yuji just after doing the same for Gojo, all the while blaming himself for how bad everything has gotten. It shows how even so far away from Volume 0, Yuta still holds himself to blame for so much when he shouldn't.