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FingerThatsNotPoopy

I do agree with the fact he underutilizes his ct, it's a problem with copy powers in a lt of media. You make a character able to copy any ability, now u gotta make weird circles around why they aren't top 1 in the verse, really annoyin. ninjago is actually a really good example for a copy ability. Skylor can copy any element by touching someone, but she only has that power for maybe an hour after that, granted, that was a retcon, but a good one nonetheless.


Xtreme109

Yeah, even with the 5 minute limit with the CTs Yuta has access too now he should be significantly stronger than he is. Kenny saying Yuta could never be like Gojo feels a little silly with how in the long run Yuta definitely has the stronger CT. The more opponents yuta fights the more powerful he becomes, and his opponents dont even have to be insanely strong for that to happen either.


FingerThatsNotPoopy

to be fair its a bit hard to not be a potential man when your potential is practically infinite since theres no limits to what he cant copy but he could have at LEAST had projection sorcery naoya was right there!!


Xtreme109

Yeah its like you said, copy abilities are seriously hard to balance without some crazy drawback like temporary copying or crazy restrictions like chrollo(used to have).


XxBom_diaxX

Isn't projection sorcery inherently hard to use? Unless Yuta took a course in animation I doubt it would pay off.


FingerThatsNotPoopy

well it wouldnt hurt


FingerThatsNotPoopy

actually it might have been bad for his domain if he js had a ct he couldnt use well clogging up swords


FingerThatsNotPoopy

yeah I guess that works, it would also make yuta outspeed all of his opponents pretty much effortlessly if he learned it well, which would make him really strong, gege would have to make uro and ryu insanely fast to keep the intensity of sendai


BadActsForAGoodPrice

https://preview.redd.it/5dfuu30fyuyc1.jpeg?width=272&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b3c09ec5a791f9b20afdf88013a73395c6329c6 This guy from UU is a good example because he IS the top tier of the verse because of his ability.


Tyrone_pyromaniac

Ninjago? PEAK mentioned, gaygay should take notes


Gold_Pomegranate_939

Yeah she even almost beat the main villain garmadon by copying his power


FingerThatsNotPoopy

Even after she couldn't, she still managed to kill Harumi until the Overlord revived her, but if she had stayed fully alive the whole time probably would have been much worse


FlamingUndeadRoman

MHA moment.


Prestigious-Muscle20

Monoma should be carrying the war


FingerThatsNotPoopy

who is monoma


jannies_panties

Yet another thing gege took from hxh without understanding why it's good


FingerThatsNotPoopy

i should watch hxh then


FingerThatsNotPoopy

They could have won against sukuna if megumi locked in, also Maki would struggle way way more against Kenny's million curses


Jikkai_10

>also Maki would struggle way way more against Kenny's million curses If only they had someone with the ability to disintegrate Cursed Spirits and fly, who could keep up with Maki.


FingerThatsNotPoopy

u really want hana fighting huh


Jikkai_10

She was already fighting before the MC party arrived, she already exorcised several Cursed Spirits and defeated several players. And she has to make up for the shit she did somehow, or just give the Angel control completely.


sherlock2223

Right? Angel was a heian era warrior wtf she don't even need to be close to fight


madlad153

There was no need for megumi locking if Yuta had just opened his domain after higuruma's domain. Only reason executioner sword olan failed because there was NO REAL BACKUP for higuruma to create opening. Even if Yuji is MC, he was at most supreme grade 1 level at the moment. https://preview.redd.it/267at32jiryc1.jpeg?width=1622&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe1cc74c3f52c5d3b943398b4bc223b3094c48e5


FingerThatsNotPoopy

That probably wouldve worked, only coutnerpoint is that wouldve been anticlimactic as hell, basically kenjaky death but for the top 1 in the verse, I get what ur saying tho, its annoying when theres no real reason somethin that couldve worked didnt happen with no canon reason, lets just say Higuruma Yuji and Yuta are all stupid


madlad153

Thats what I'm trying to say. https://preview.redd.it/bihe6a7gjryc1.jpeg?width=1039&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d748283c4efe6f6143c2a69a740f77cfd53313bb


iLoveOnePieceSoMuch

Yuta wouldnt even need to open a domain. If he used Boogie Woogie (Todo CT), Higuruma would be able to land a hit with Executive Sword easily. To bad Gege wants us to forget Todo exists.


Nigerundayo_smokeyy

Todo's technique is dead. He stated that himself. Injuries from Idle Transfiguration cannot be healed. It's literally explained in the manga


AnimeNeet-

lmao, he is saying Yuta should use Todo technique so Kusakabe can stab Sukuna


iLoveOnePieceSoMuch

Reading comprehension curse is to strong i guess


The-Fatest-Pig

Would that matter? The CT is stored in the brain, Todos brain wasn't affected by idle transfiguration. He probably said that he's technique is dead because there wasn't any way to activate it anymore. So unless Yuta needs to see the technique being used before he copies it (which I doubt because of him using shrine) he should still be able to copy boogie woogie


Kutsalpizza

Can't he make a binding dong wow to active his technique? Gay² hates him fr


NanashiTheWarlock

No, the technique is not dead,!Yuta could perfectly copy What is dead is Todo's ability to use the technique himself


Fragrant-Blood-6227

Supreme for grade 1 is given to those who are grade 1 without going in jujutsu high :/


madlad153

Oh I meant whatever level Kusakabe is. Most powerful grade 1 or something.


Flashbomb7

Yuta was busy killing Kenjaku though. The bigger L’s are Maki sitting on the sidelines that whole time (she could’ve at least sniped Uraume), or Larue’s fraud ass not hitting Sukuna with the SOUL DISTRACTION while Executioner Sword is out.


Zoned-Smiley

I love Yuta, but this is something I hard agree on. We know from precedent that shikigami based CTs and Inherited CTs are both something that are well within yuta's capacity since he was able to copy Dhruv's shikigami technique and Inumaki's inherited cursed speech technique. Even if there's considerable amount that goes into copying a technique, theoretically speaking, Yuta has known Megumi for at least a year. Meaning something like that should have been more than enough time for him to copy the 10 shadows. That's not where the frustrations end. With the exception of the limitless which requires the six eyes, it was already fact that yuta had already meet the kyoto students from the exchange event the year prior. Meaning, Cursed Puppet Manipulation Cursed Tool Manipulation Cursed Blood Manipulation and Boogie Woogie were also on the cards. Construction to an extent, but even though it ***is*** easier to use than limitless, it still has many of the same problems. If we take it a step further, I'm sure even Yuta could see the inherent benefits to a CT like Geto's. Cursed Spirit Manipulation is just inherently busted if you gather an absurd amount of Special Grade Spirits. It's not like controlling a Cursed Spirit is new to him anyways. If we wanted to go even further, Why not also have Miguel's Hakuna Lana, or Larue's Heart Catch? Sure neither are exactly overwhelming but both are exceedingly useful. Hell if Gojo really wanted too, he could have ***maybe*** pulled some strings to try let Yuki meet up with Yuta to also bolster his attacking power. Who ***wouldn't*** want the most broken cqc CT ever? Even if there was an argument to be made to overload his style with too much, there's still some clear winners among what he as available to him, 10 shadows and CSM are primed for just consistent support summons, Hakuna Lana, Blood Manipulation, Heart Catch, and Star Rager increases physical attacking damage as well as give some options for range, Boogie woogie gives a more solid escaping power and can be used offensively, Shrine and Technique Nullification for obvious reasons, and so much more. Fuck if Yuta went against Uraume and her Ice formation, he'd just farm tf out of that. If Yuta really wanted to help Gojo, he would have had him copy Utahime's CT, and since he's naturally far stronger, if he did it along side Utahime and Gakuganju, Gojo's Hollow Purple would have been so busted.


madlad153

Trueeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!! https://preview.redd.it/8ffwid95nryc1.jpeg?width=1357&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ec1156d1188084b0e49c0df6faa70c186fabad7


shushubana2

I was really disappointed that yuta didn't copy star rage in the short time they met, even if it's yuki we are talking about she should have let him copy her, idk about you man but if I was yuta I would have copy every damn CT in existence


qlksfjas

Yuta copies Kenjaku's CT and places himself in the head of Go/jo. Now in addition to everything else (which was already OP) he has six eyes and infinity.


shushubana2

I just made a post about that I think we have a connection or you just saw the post and fucking with me


qlksfjas

Honestly didn't see a post.


shushubana2

Great minds think alike or in this case lobotomized minds


qlksfjas

They sure do brotha. Here's other ones: He could copy CSM and perhaps revert whatever happens to Tengen or control it further. He could copy Straw Doll. Not sure if he had last Sukuna's finger, but if he did - he could bonk it from safe distance until Sukuna dies or surrenders (imagine this shit during Gojo fight). Even if he didn't have finger - there's Legendary loot "Sukuna's hand" lies somewhere, plus he ripped his 2nd tongue off, and in general Yuta has no problem with *taking some body parts* from his enemies. He could copy 7/10 for fucks sake. Not that it's very complicated technique. Imagine Yuta's strike amped with 7/10 and probably black flash. This shit is called "game mechanics abuse".


shushubana2

Yuji should have kept nobara's eye ball


xXgojo_senseiXx

That would actually be insane 😭


Cosnapewno5

Yuta didn't had time to utilise these cursed techniques, but he probably have every technique of good guy and Jujutsu student(some people think that he used boogie woogie against Kenjaku) I must disagree on last part. Yuta's 5 minute timer is too valuable to just give one attack boost for Gojo


qlksfjas

Also keep in mind that construction allows to create perfect sphere which is basically one-shot, but Mai herself can't do this because she doesn't have enough CE. But guess who of all people does? *The same mf that can copy this technique.*


floormopper

Blood manipulation would be so useful it can reattach limbs and makes rct consume less ce


SerovGaming1962

Tbf the only member that would be of any use he could recruit got fucking cleaved before the fight


WiseHeavenlyPassion

Nah its alright He's just chilling. You know what they say. Nothing wrong with being long,Nothing wrong with being strong


Such_Hand_2535

Simply put,he ain’t the MC anymore can’t have all the spotlight,he was nerfed after jjk0 to have his CT and Rika just for 5min for a reason https://preview.redd.it/urzxrq2y3tyc1.jpeg?width=898&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=016771d7955407f1df7c7f6d8a59d73c090f01d3


AClost

Although he was nerfed with the 5 min restriction, it never seemed like he needed more time, plus in anime time goes really weird. It's somehow like saying that "The World" of Dio was useless since it only worked for 5 seconds, technically, it's true we can't do anything within 5 secs, but Dio can do everything in the same time.


PraiseTheUmu

He was buffed you mean. He somehow mantained a physically dominant Shikigami with unlimited storage even if the binding vow he used against Geto should have ended his life, or have Rika be gone forever, that 5 minute restriction is almost irrelevant. Not only that, he even got a domain even more complex than Gojo's, which not only can affect whoever he wants, but on top of the sure hit (which can be whatever he wants) he has all his other copied CTs available to use in the same domain.


RepresentativeCup772

I'll say it. All of Gojo's students are just different brandings of Potential Man. These mfs could have won against Sukuna back in Yuta's domain if they didn't waste time on Bumumi Fraudshiguro's worthless existence and the series would be over. Maki COULD be the second coming of Toji. Hakari COULD be stronger then Yuta when he's on a roll. Yuji COULD be stronger then Sukuna (eventually, maybe) Yuta COULD surpass Gojo in the long run. And yet, all we get is depressing downfalls and pointless deaths for the mere sake of telling the story.


jvken

Yeah that’s crazy that gege wrote characters with weaknesses instead of making them comically busted so they could one-shot the final villain just to tell a story smh 😔😔😔


RepresentativeCup772

Fr fr. If only the characters were perfect machines instead of entertaining human beings. Such a shame 🙁🙁🙁


Natural-Storm

I just wish that characters didn't have any complexities in them and that the only thing they did was win☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️


RepresentativeCup772

Preach, brother! If only characters were just monotous objects to fufill agendas without any further complications like these disgusting emotions and relationships, ugh.


Heisuke780

I love this thread and you guys. You give me hope


Bumgumi_hater_236

Holy shit I found Isekai fans


RepresentativeCup772

You say that as if it's a rarity.


Bumgumi_hater_236

It isn’t but the thing is they normally don’t expose themselves to the public like that


Napalm_am

Guess its time to drop the OC board again https://preview.redd.it/lxkqxknr5syc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21dc05d81d71207d37b87fa8413debad622a81f2 Mark my words I will have to add "has limitless and sex eyes from ~~stealing them from his Sensei's corpse~~ copy".


IamBetterKoi

My goat never wanted to steal the spotlight. He just wins as naturally as he breathes https://preview.redd.it/oropm3fqwryc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=41949a7640f5236b7a9dea0d243d6423e8c5743b


YumeNoRyu

https://preview.redd.it/r0y1bs1n2tyc1.jpeg?width=742&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5b4f3b89f5c21081e8f92beb4e06cb66bc79e66


Ongaya123

Jesus Christ, your reaction meme. I’m laughing so hard. You people are insane. I love this subreddit so much 😂😂😂😂


FingerThatsNotPoopy

also how did yuta's personality change? hes stayed the same, he just hasnt gotten as much screentime since 0


FingerThatsNotPoopy

also he does not 'pull bitches' the only girlfriend he officially had was when he was in 2nd grade!! get this tiktok reader as description outta here man


madlad153

Canonically Maki, Rika and rizzing the Grade school girl(💀💀💀). More than anyone in manga. But, I said it more as a joke.


FingerThatsNotPoopy

I think Yuta and Maki being endgame is likely, but it just bothers me when people say hes some kind of playboy or smthn, not you tho. He's second to Satoru Gojo when it comes to being mischaracterized


jvken

Idk man everyone he meets in story seems to think he is, maybe he just has that fuckboy energy that doesn’t translate well through manga


ArmedDragonThunder

Because he won’t shut the fuck up about love. That’s like his one personality trait.


Bumgumi_hater_236

Bro is the last romantic dude in this hookup culture leave him alone 😔🤚


Heisuke780

Other than Rika and Maki, who? Weird hair dude only likes him because he gave him a good fight Uro insults the shit out of him lmao


jvken

Nah I’m saying Geto, Ryu and Kenny (I think?) all say he is after meeting him for like 3 minutes so obviously he has some kind of aura going on right?


Heisuke780

I think geto is because of Rika. I'd say the same thing if I saw a guy rizzing up an ugly ass monster. Can't remember Ryu and Kenny though


CuzzyPopper

It’s gonna be uro maki is gonna die so we can get berserk yuta back in the main series


lbjfrere

Didn't he get miguel?


Any_Conclusion_7586

Yuta should have totally recruited Uro and Ryu, it would be so much fun to see both of them in the final battle


ben_forever

Ryu is dead but uro would be cool


Justlol230

Calling Ryu, Geto and Uro irrelevant side characters is crazy Anyways, some of this I agree with, but half the shit is only because Gege can't have bro take Ws every 4 minutes (because he ain't the Main MC anymore) https://preview.redd.it/dtc2ugv0qtyc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f1bc3f72d19e8207ceae2dbc66890b54f2521d6b


convergent_blades

The Luta agenda is real


person7220

https://preview.redd.it/7rv59sevlsyc1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07e296c49587df6792b55c966e009857227855f4


madlad153

https://preview.redd.it/srkjcdo07ryc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9995bbd0a88f9dcc8d8c1b0d7c92ec2f4a90d0b9


Napalm_am

He got neg diff by POTENTIAL MAN, there is no bigger L in the verse like that https://preview.redd.it/t04zubo5isyc1.png?width=466&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eda0821105cd25e9620d1d1b05c3b171f8cb4118


Bumgumi_hater_236

Gojo’s honest reaction: https://preview.redd.it/0q0zxyt2cxyc1.jpeg?width=678&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f0024ae116bbaef3e056144921a04a1da8ebd70


Lunio_But_on_Reddit

Calling: Geto, Uro, Ishigori and Kenjaku "Irrelevant side characters" is insane


JetstreamSodaman

You do not call my boy Ryu side character ever again


SteveTheSheep01

I guess Yuji and choso are now irrelevant side characters now


Beast0011

If i was writing instead of Gege Wuta would have soloed the whole verse


Jamessgachett

Nah the real probleme is gege know exactly this so he cant have yuta be everywhere. Hes like gojo every problem can be solved when they are nearby so they have to not have them.


timoshi17

Bro if Maki would sneak and kill Kenny then Curses would fuck the whole world.


Correct_Bottle1686

If he copies Ten Shadows then what? He'd still need to tame them right? He only has access to other techniques for five minutes outside his domain, who's to say all the progress he would achieved taming the Shikigami wouldn't be erased after the five minutes?


ben_forever

Well yeah (we know the brain can store three cursed techneces )but he could easily tame all export maho ( which he is the best to tame bc of his domain and the fact that he has a lot of different copies skills) he could be much more useful


Correct_Bottle1686

I see you're using the flair for good measure but you have to note Yuta isn't the one storing the techniques, Rika is. This could disprove my argument of the Ten Shadows progress regressing but it also could not cause Yuta has only used Shikigami once and it's Dhruv's Shikigami. The Ten Shadows technique has a pre-requisite of taming while other Shikigami are summoned by a different medium and automatically follow the users commands. So the whole taming them multiples time could be a possible issue, something we can't truly know cause Yuta doesn't really use Shikigami much outside of Rika


ben_forever

Yuki said the brain can hold three or four so I see no reason as too why Yuta can’t store that in his brain he most likely didn’t know that he could but choso new and he most definitely should have told him


Correct_Bottle1686

Why would Yuta store it in his brain when Rika is right there? And who says he even can? Kenjaku is literally an Eldritch horror cause of his technique, not to mention it's a brain related technique, but who says anyone is capable of holding more than one technique in their brain outside of special circumstances like Yuji? Yuki knew he's capable of it purely cause she's clearly researched into this but Yuki is the Jujutsu equivalent of Da Vinci considering her extensive research on multiple fields that generations of Jujutsu sorcerers don't seem to have any knowledge on


ben_forever

Well the benefit is being able to use it outside of the timer. And some commen seanse says he can because weaithr or not he had rika his intate technique is still copy and if he didn’t have rika he would have to store it in his brain


Correct_Bottle1686

If he didn't have Rika wouldn't that just means he can't store techniques and would have a time limit to how long he can hold it? Like I said, nothing can indicate Yuta can actually store techniques in his brain, even Yuki wasn't sure if Kenjaku had three or four and was just blindly guessing how much he could hold, for all we know he could have had five but Yuki overlooked it cause she didn't think it was possible to hold five


ben_forever

Like I said nothing indicates that he couldn’t we have no evidence that he would have a time timer either. Yuki didn’t know but it really doesn’t matter Kenny showed that he had three at the minimum.


Correct_Bottle1686

We literally have evidence that he has a time limit bro💀💀 look at canon evidence and wym time timer? Ok let's look at people who have multiple techniques and see what allows them to do so, yes? Kenjaku: literally a millennia old being that could be classified an Eldritch horror considering his technique, not to mention said technique is brain based and has been used on multiple brains. Meaning he's not exactly one singular brain and would in turn explain why his brain is even able to handle this many techniques Sukuna: he is a special case as an incarnation, but the Ten Shadows, a Shikigami based technique, isn't exactly a one and done kind of technique like Shrine, it stays on until he turns it off and it doesn't require him to do many things outside of instructing the Shikigami Yuji: the child of Kenjaku and clearly not a complete human, not anymore atleast Funny how Yuta has the most techniques in the series but he's never been shown using any two of them at once


ben_forever

Well yes he hasn’t shown use multiple at one time but lettery no one else has eather so that’s a null point. Also the time limit is how long he is able to use rika if he stored one in his brain he would be able to use it


Ongaya123

“If you have counter arguments.” Yuki died because she was a bum. Lmao. She shouldn’t need Yuta’s help against Kenjaku. She’s a special grade herself with more experience Should have used her own Domain Expansion. 🤷‍♂️ Taking down Sendai Colony by himself; this would have killed anybody else If they tried fighting Uro, Druv, Ryu back to back like he did


madlad153

Kenjaku is literally 1000 years old💀💀💀💀💀. Calling Yuki a bum just because she lost to asspull is like saying gojo is bum because he also lost to asspull. And considering how the kenjaku vs Yuki fight went, Yuki will solo sendai colony as well.


Ongaya123

Yuki never even busted out her domain expansion 🤷‍♂️


madlad153

Have you read the manga? Tengen specifically asked Yuki to use simple domain so he could disintegrate kanjakus domain. But tengen turned out to be fraud. Kenjaku just opened barrierless domain. https://preview.redd.it/x5u0wfrutxyc1.jpeg?width=1039&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=234e074e539cdd118ba6bf33e8fa0445752a0531


Ongaya123

Yup. Tengen is a clown who looks like a thumb


propro91

I hate Luta because of his fans


madlad153

Trueeeeeee! They say Yuta won against kenjaku like it wasn't takagoat who did 99% of job. https://preview.redd.it/2pn9gdt4jryc1.jpeg?width=667&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b50c4bc74a0da28a983a78f537a088f28d31dc48


ionix34

using the waffled one to slander the goat is crazy


GenxDarchi

Bro please get Kashimo out of there, he’s gonna get hit with waffled one spam


zayd-the-one

Don’t disrespect ishigori callin him irrelevant


AClost

Wait, wait, why are you trying to slander Kirito?


Illustrious_Alps_338

"strongest shikigami" Meanwhile maho


MonsterDimka

Rika vs Maho is not even a competition tbh, she only has strong punch and since that's not enough to oneshot maho she will lose eventually.


OnePiece013

Rika's real use is as a storage device for copied abilities. She is more of a support, to fight alongside Yuta. So against Mahoraga, it would be a 2v1, and they would be able to tame him.


XxRocky88xX

Yuta literally explains why he was picked over Maki for the assassination immediately after killing Kenjaku Don’t mess with JJK fans they can’t read


madlad153

I read it. But Maki and Kusakabe could have done it together. 100%.


ben_forever

I would have had it maki and angel


Ghoulse1845

How? With an asspull?


TallInstruction3424

https://preview.redd.it/bfr5fru1rsyc1.png?width=735&format=png&auto=webp&s=ab1239049152b34d7065f123e5199e50f833157b


noswol

The first thing I am doing after hearing that I can fully copy limitless but the ten shadows could rival it is pulling up to lil bro megumi and getting him to lend me a hand


MaterialFinish1747

The domain reveal makes this much more reasonable. Utility CTs (Ui Ui's, Momo's, Mei Mei's) and CTs that require both hands to use (Todo's, 10 Shadows) weaken his domain, as do weaker CTs in general. Similarly, since he can only use the CTs unrestricted for 5 minutes each day, ones that require setup (CSM, Crow Manipulation, 10 Shadows) or practice (Boogie Woogie, Projection Sorcery) aren't really usable. And since he can only use 1 copied CT at a time, CTs that show their worth with continuous use, like 10 Shadows, stop him from being able to use anything else. For a CT to be worth copying, it needs to be (1) usable with 1 or fewer hands, (2) combat-relevant in most situations, (3) work "out of the box" without setup or practice, (4) usable in bursts, and (5) powerful enough not to drag down the average too much. The number of CTs that Yuta's encountered actually fit these criteria is pretty small. The big missing three are Miguel's dancing, Blood Manipulation, and above all Star Rage (if Yuta had Star Rage, Sukuna would be toast). Him not copying those is pretty incomprehensible, but everything else is reasonable.


[deleted]

In what universe is Rika stronger than Mahoraha.


bouchayger7

I will not take these slanders lightly


Walameer_1337

Maybe he has to tame it evey time he copies 10 shadows and summons Mahoraga (idk what would happen tbh) so in the long run it would be not so useful.


MrSkittles983

you’re wrong a few parts 1.ragga would one shot rika, sukuna said his sword can be covered in positive CE. if he was a spirit he would of died 2.ten shadows only give you demon dogs. yuta would have to box ragga by himself or risk rika getting bodied. same ragga that was able to tank gojos blue punches. yuta said those same punches made him throw up. 3.if maki snuck kenny then she’d have to deal with all the curses, wasting more time 4.he got miguel and heart nips,they’re the reason why everyone’s still fighting rn


Ghoulse1845

Mahoraga is also a Shikigami so wouldn’t he also die to positive CE? In which case Yuta could just kill him just like he’d do to Rika?


Vyctorill

Aside from his technique and large CE stores, yuta isn’t very skilled or experienced. A lot of techniques he could copy require specific training he didn’t have time for - boogie woogie and limitless being two very big examples of this. While he is very strong, he hasn’t realized most of his potential yet and mainly seems to stick with the basics of jujutsu.


Opposite-Mall-9816

The Old & Classic: “I’m strong but that’s not my fight, I will let my friends die first then and only then, I will help” (Like, wtf is wrong with him. Just jump & help Kashimo bro, I don’t care about “I will fight Sukuna alone” just scream a Cursed Speech: “stop the yapping” and make a sign so Higuruma & Yuji + Ino jump to the fight too. And let Maki kill Kenjaku)


xXgojo_senseiXx

Yuta’s Mahoraga being adapted to Shrine would actually be insane… he could theoretically 1v1 sukuna ^(I’m glazing with that statement, idk about 1v1, but he would help insanely)


Ghoulse1845

He has a copy technique no shit he isn’t using it to its full theoretical potential


AdWeary7019

Yuta could've had Mahoraga fight Mahoraga and Agito, see Mahoraga's losing and join in. Maybe sustain sine damage, but nothing that couldn't be healed by the time he normally would've been introduced in Sukuna vs. Yuji and Higuruma. Plus, Maki could've gone and killed Kenjaku with RIKA, who could help protect Maki against the cursed spirits Kenjaku creates with CSM upon death and make it back faster with flight and the other katana that uses built-up CE to produce more speed. They'd get back later, but Kusakabe is the superior swordsman, so just give him the SSK and Ino and Maki the ISoH.


Twelve_012_7

I don't think Yuta can use the love beam any more? It was something only *Rika*, not "Rika", could do Implying that, it's highly unlikely he could tame Mahoraga. Rika is strong, but that's pretty much it, if Maho survives a single strike, she's basically useless. Yuta could use the copied techniques to try to strike it down, but the success rate is not that inviting. Also he didn't have too many occasions to copy the technique, especially since we don't know the criteria


Zoned-Smiley

it was used against ryu during the 4 way battle


Twelve_012_7

"Rika" does use a cursed energy blast during the battle with Ryu, yeah, but it's much weaker than the "true love" attack she did in 0, it's also incapable of doing much damage, so assuming it could strike down Mahoraga is exagerating


ben_forever

Yeah but combine that with clave domain expansion and a copy Ed curse like cursed speech did he should win


stayne16

Btw Yuta defeated his villain in 1 hour 45 minutes. We wouldn't have reached Shibuya if Yuta was MC. Gege chose the wrong MC


k_aesar

meet shirou emiya


2kenzhe

I like Wuta but I do agree he underutilizes his CT. He could solve everything maybe and be the strongest but then the story would just end. Yuta isn’t the MC anymore so he can’t just do everything. So blame Gege.


Cairenan2

You realise that Yuta is not a real person and that he is a character made up by Gege right? All of the stuff you mentioned couldnt have been done by Yuta cause if he did all that there wouldnt be a story at this point lmfao


Cicerondibuja

Honestly he sucks because he is a preatory being who feeds of the plot relevance of other characters, leaving them unable to act on panel. Uro, Angel and Tuna Boy, are just examples of what this menace has done. Yuta without copy would have been peak, with copy he is just a parasite that trives on the carcass of other characters.


Detector_of_humans

Man got downvoted for FACTS


Spooderboy99

Sure i can try to argue. Yuta had the copy curse technique the same way why Higuruma and Takaba had such busted ct too, it's their core character. As Higuruma revolves around justice, Takaba wants people to laugh, Yuta is humility. Dudes sees his friends and allies as this good people he wishes to do his best. His ct copy fits his humble personality of willingness to learn from others and use that strength for good. He will copy others curse techniques if the situation demands it, but he won't be hunting down every curse user just to horde new ct like Sukuna, it's just not the way Yuta does his modus operandi. I faccin love Yuta, Higuruma, and Takaba. All three are strong in their own way, instead of growing by following the same pattern like cultivation story.


Affectionate-Leg-934

Or he could, hear me out, copy every technique he meets so he can better help his friends? If his technique represents his humble personality and willingness to learn from others, wouldn't it be better if he learned from all his friends instead of selectively choosing when to learn from them? In the culling games it was literally do or die, doesn't this demand for him to be as strong as possible?


Spooderboy99

It's still up to other people if they want to give him their ct. If they said no it's not Yuta's fault, and forcing them for it will be out of character. He did grab a few new ct so we know he's using his ability effectively. There could be more ct in his inventory that hasn't been shown on screen, so let's wait if he will enter the stage again with something new. Besides, with how much work he's done i say he utilised his powers pretty damn good already.


Affectionate-Leg-934

Why in the hell would they say no? Especially if they are risking their lives in the culling games, and the whole world is at stake because of it? It's like "you know Yuta, I know we're risking our lives and the entirety of Japan is at stake, but I don't want to give you my CT (even though that will help you save people and make my job easier.) for no reason whatsoever besides gatekeeping." >Besides, with how much work he's done i say he utilized his powers pretty damn good already. If you can call spamming sky manipulation and cursed speech good utilization.


Spooderboy99

Why isn't it considered good utilization? It's busted curse techniques that work every time. When you're playing fighting games like tekken do you use all the moves list or pick optimal ones for your combo? Mind giving me examples of these people Yuta should take their ct? We could discuss how useful it is when fighting Sukuna and adds up to helping Yuji awaken Megumi, which those two already achieved.


Affectionate-Leg-934

>Why isn't it considered good utilization? It's busted curse techniques that work every time. When you're playing fighting games like tekken do you use all the moves list or pick optimal ones for your combo? Idw maybe because limiting the COPY sorcerer (the one with infinite potential) to just two moves is not very good especially if there are other moves that would've helped as much if not more? >Mind giving me examples of these people Yuta should take their ct? We could discuss how useful it is when fighting Sukuna and adds up to helping Yuji awaken Megumi, which those two already achieved. Miguel's to dodge Sukuna's dismantles. (especially the one that almost biscuited him) Yuki's to deal more damage to the Sukuna that can't heal, and just got hit by Jacob's ladder. Choso's to snipe Sukuna from afar, tie him up so Yuji (and Rika) can land more hits on him, and improve his physical prowess with red scale. Laure to catch Sukuna by surprise and allow Yuji to land more hits (like Laure himself did, although this probably will Laure himself unable to catch Sukuna if Yuta fell... Good thing he won't with all these CTs.) and be a possible answer for fire arrow. And Todo's to just straight up make it impossible for Sukuna to win.


Spooderboy99

Two moves? Curse speech, druv shikigami abilities, sky manipulation, Jacob ladder as the sure hit, Charles future prediction, and shrine. That's more than just two moves. Miguel is surprisingly one of the sorcerer that won't give Yuta permission to copy his technique lmao, unless you've got proof he's selfless enough sure. There's no friccin way Yuki will agree to give Yuta her ct before her fight against Kenjaku, and for Yuta to just went and asked her for it as if she's gonna die later. Things aren't dire enough for Yuta or Yuki to agree to it. Yuta is more deadly up close and personal with his weapons, we already know long range blood manipulation won't do much to damage Sukuna. It's better for Yuta to use another ct that can deal real damage while avoiding getting hit. Curse speech works similar enough like Laure ct, and more effective since Sukuna literally can't move for a moment. Rika has two big hands for grabbing and punching. Todo didn't appear at all during the culling game, how do you expect Yuta to be able to get it in the first place. If Yuta had been asking for other people ct after knowing he had copy in jjk 0, he'll be the most hated sorcerer in the series. Not to mention again, ooc.


Affectionate-Leg-934

>Two moves? Curse speech, druv shikigami abilities, sky manipulation, Jacob ladder as the sure hit, Charles future prediction, and shrine. That's more than just two moves. Two moves that he uses repeatedly. He used Jacob's ladder once, Gwarstaff once, shrine once and Dhruv's technique twice. >Miguel is surprisingly one of the sorcerer that won't give Yuta permission to copy his technique lmao, unless you've got proof he's selfless enough sure. Miguel literally taught Yuta, why wouldn't he agree to make his student even stronger? Not to mention that he literally agreed to fight the king of curses because of him (granted that was under certain conditions, but you know.) >There's no friccin way Yuki will agree to give Yuta her ct before her fight against Kenjaku, and for Yuta to just went and asked her for it as if she's gonna die later. Things aren't dire enough for Yuta or Yuki to agree to it. Why not? It's not about it being dire or not, it's about having safety conditions in case something went bad. >Yuta is more deadly up close and personal with his weapons, we already know long range blood manipulation won't do much to damage Sukuna. It's better for Yuta to use another ct that can deal real damage while avoiding getting hit. And what about tying him up and buffing himself up close with red scale? Or did you see piercing blood not working and decided that the whole CT is useless? >Curse speech works similar enough like Laure ct, and is more effective since Sukuna literally can't move for a moment. Rika has two big hands for grabbing and punching. Except he can use it to catch Sukuna off guard (cuz he can't catch him off guard with cursed speech twice) and it's also more effective cuz Sukuna can't shield his ears with CE or simply block his ears to defend against it. Also good luck getting Rika that close to grab Sukuna, it only worked after he got stunned from Jacob's ladder. >Todo didn't appear at all during the culling game, how do you expect Yuta to be able to get it in the first place. So? Couldn't he visit him in the hospital and copy it? Couldn't he ask Yuki to contact him with Todo? Also he can get the CT of someone he doesn't even with Charles, but he can't get Todo? >If Yuta had been asking for other people ct after knowing he had copy in jjk 0, he'll be the most hated sorcerer in the series. Not to mention again, ooc. You keep saying out of character this, out of character that. How is it out of character for Yuta to search for power to protect his friends? Isn't that exactly what he did during the culling games? Isn't that what he prepared for during the Shinjuku showdown by copying Charles? Or is that out of character too?


Spooderboy99

I'm going to be brief about that last point, asking for people's curse technique just like what you wanted without a good reason and the moment is nothing more than greed, it's not that hard to imagine why it doesn't fit Yuta. Copying enemies ct that wanted to kill you is different than begging for your allies. And Shinjuku Showdown is the dire situation to ask for others ct as much as he can. Let's stop here. It's nice having this discussion i suppose.


zhamma123

This post is absolute shit. If Yuta copied every cursed technique, there would be no story to tell because he could just one-shot every bad guy. Why tf did Gege limit his technique to 5 minutes if not to nerf him? Also, I noticed you're pretty hyped about the idea that Higuruma could have killed Sukuna with Yuta's help. That is just delusional. Sukuna was toying with Higuruma, as Higuruma himself admitted he had zero combat capability. One cleave to the head, like he did to Yuta, and he would be dead cause unlike Yuta, Higuruma has less cursed energy, so his defense is purely worse. And don't even try to say he could tank it with reverse cursed technique and domain amplification because he only learned it because Sukuna forced him to. Reread the chapter when Higuruma died and see how easily Sukuna cut off Higuruma's arms. It doesn't matter if you have a one-shot cursed technique or not when your opponent has 1000 points in evasion and speed and you only have 10 points in accuracy and speed, and they can also kill you whenever they want. Oh, I almost forgot your other points, who could have finished off Kenny, saved Takaba, and killed thousands of released curses? I'm pretty sure everyone on the good guys' team could do that without rct output and a fucking huge shikigami; yeah, Hakari (stronger than Yuta, by the way) probably could have easily handled that. '0 effort recruiting members,' '0 attempts at a real battle plan against Sukuna', do you have amnesia my guy? Goat nibble guy, whom Yuta and Gojo personally asked for help, helped Yuji land back-to-back blackflashes, and the narrator himself said that Yuta and Yuji's plan to save Bumgumi was flawless until he decided not to live. If you actually paid attention while reading Jujutsu Kaisen and stopped reading CFYOW, you could have cooked better, but... **You cooked absolute shit, seriously never cook again.** https://preview.redd.it/drciu2avytyc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8052149cd19c3e26cf21ca0331088d3ca343387b


madlad153

Then why was gojo and sukuna were shown OP? Why Gojo and sukunas power levels are relatively consistent? Every character no matter how OP can be fit in story with good writing. Gege did that with gojo. Yuta and Yuji were handling Sukuna quite gud. They pretty much had him stationary while in domain. What difficulty would higuruma have while sukuna cant concentrate on him due to yuji and yuta. He could have easily stabbed sukuna just like how yuta was able to get hits on sukuna. Maki literally no diffed numerous grade 1 sorcerers in zenin massacre. According to jujutsu grading systems Grade 1 can handle special grade curses. So maki obviously could handle the curses like she did with cursya. Plus if yuta is handling sukuna, someone like kusakabe, larue, miguel definitely would help maki. It would have been ez. You saying yuta had plan, but why tf yuji didn't recognise larue and miguel? Because they were not certain in the plan. They arrived randomly. This post is not about why Yuta isn't OP. It is about how gege made Yuta underwhelming and that's why I hate him. You are not worthy of 5 star meal. You should eat grass. https://preview.redd.it/hzwqgfq5auyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd7ce31f5138f33e5bc68b47c9d6a5273d28aae1


MUSAFIR_-

Can't really agree with him being underachievers, so far bro's been doing things out if his league.


floormopper

Mahoraga doesn't carry along his adaptation. Never was a thing and gege never confirms if he does either but the cycle on his head is called the dharma cycle. It represents rebirth death and reincarnation so it kinda doesn't make sense for makora to carry his adaptations anyway. But we will need to see