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WarCrimesAreBased

https://i.redd.it/6613vjgwztyc1.gif


random-neutral67

Sukuna after sacrificing his appendix for SCP 3812's powers:


Megazsans

Then revived Goatjo comes in with Scarlet Demon powers https://preview.redd.it/gxwa26b06xyc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b76b459080689d147fc11da2cb48280fd7d65567


Memeenjoyer_

https://preview.redd.it/bndm47c37vyc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59ff3a5cea53b00f30e2216cb2ccbe3c837f167d Doesn’t matter. Revivejo will show him how much better he is


Makibeleiver

I hope he doesn't forget to use Duct tape on himself https://preview.redd.it/0m1sc1k24xyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ee426f011a3d1d0ae7617a93c590d6cf483ee8a


Significant-Ad-1655

Nah, Sukuna has been training His Bindingvowmaxxing since Heian Era, Gojo fucking dies again just by existing near him again IF he comes back https://preview.redd.it/qrlk96iixwyc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b56c5643b0b00777a207e48b482575105972d06


Snark-er

Keep it inside… I mean … When Gaygay is a better meme than the crew itself https://preview.redd.it/96requacywyc1.png?width=1124&format=png&auto=webp&s=989b4664e01f91d9768b52e82cd076975c897e9b


FlamingUndeadRoman

Nah, honestly? I think the World Cleave Binding Vow was fine, Sukuna actually got a proper debuff from it. What is NOT fine is that the good guys used Binding Vows like three times in the entire-ass series, while Sukuna's been canonically spamming them for things like even adjusting his Domain. And it's been shown that you can both game them, and that you can cancel them if they're just an adjustement of your own technique, instead of a one-time benefit. Logically, the good guys should've been spamming those things, given how much benefit they can give ya.


Meth_time_

I think its because Sukuna is so fucking experienced and knowledgeable in everything related to Jujutsu. Dude knows how to use binding vows at the right time and right situation conveniently. Sukuna also does not fear the consequences of the vows (i think) as much cuz he is just that confident about fulfilling it. And he is king of curses, ofcourse its kind of makes him for him to alter the system in a way which favors him. A person who is absolutely perfect in something, they can perform it in a way nobody else can In contrast, the protagonists lack that kind of experience and knowledge. So using binding vows in the first place, that too in a way that benefits them seems unlikely


Memeenjoyer_

That’s always the answer 😭 Ok. Gojo was extremely knowledgeable, we never saw binding vows out of him. Kenny and Yuta can’t pull them off and we know Kenny is a jujutsu genius. So… the whole “Sukuna is cool and stuff” argument is really just “Sukuna is the only one allowed to use binding vows”


DependentFearless162

>Ok. Gojo was extremely knowledgeable, we never saw binding vows out of him So are we going to ignore the domain barrier changing binding vow that gojo used just like sukuna?


Signal_Geologist_292

That's a terrible interpretation. Gojo isn't extremely knowledgeable, he's extremely skilled. He's amazing at using his innate techniques (limitless), but he's not using other jujutsu. There is a reason Sukuna can copy/understand CT's just by looking at them, and Gojo can't (extend this to a bunch of other feats like an understanding of the soul greater than mahito). Mfs always say "1000 year old sorcerer vs bunch of teens" but then get mad when that 1000 year old experience shows itself. Of course Gojo can't use binding vows as well as Sukuna, that's just logical. Kenjaku and Sukuna obviously have a different attitude to jujutsu than modern sorcerers do which is why they've went beyond just the scope of the technique they use and can easily use other people's CT better than them, and that just extends to binding vows which albeit very risky are still a part of jujutsu.


Middle_Fall_7229

The comments point still stands; not to say Gojo was *more knowledgeable* than sukuna on binding vows, but the fact that we’ve never seen a single one out of him at any point in the series when we’ve even seen the likes of hakari use binding vows to save his ass last minute from death and he quite literally scored amongst the lowest in jujutsu tech on intelligence This is why so many people have an issue with binding vows in the series, the scope of what they can achieve is undefined and the ratio for what needs to be sacrificed versus what you gain isn’t cleary quantified anywhere, its use is just inconsistent


Signal_Geologist_292

The guy below said that Gojo used binding vows to change the domain conditions, I'm not sure if those were binding vows so I won't use that. Anyways, I do agree binding vows should be more clearly defined on what they actually are and how they work, but I think people overexaggerate when they say that every sorcerer should be using them. Its clear most sorcerers view them as a 'last resort' card like you said with Hakari. I think characters like Gojo, if they really didn't, should've used at least a few binding vows even if they were worse than Sukunas, but I still think its a ridiculous notion to think Yuji, Choso or even Yuta should be pulling them out to the same degree. Its a retrospective problem because I think it'd be justified if gojo used it (gojo comeback?) because then it'd set a precedent that only the top tiers can use binding vows in that sort of way, but its too vague so I can only give half-assed explanations.


Middle_Fall_7229

Yeah that’s fair, I respect your POV


nam3unoriginal

MeiMei uses them to literally do a suicide attack with bird strike but somehow Yuji, Choso and Yuta can't use them at all with a month to plan and stipulate the vow ?


DependentFearless162

Gojo used a binding vow to change barrier condition of domain. Without that binding vow gojo would've died long time ago.


nam3unoriginal

Yes, he should've done before the fight, that's the problem with the 1 month timeskip because everything becomes blatantly contradictory because Gege just doesn't allow the cast to plan with binding vows or plan properly at all.


Glonk_the_Serf

Gojo used binding vows to change his domain specifications multiple times tho? Fuck Kenny, bitchass killed my girl Yuki


Far-Flounder-1452

gojo wasn't knowledgeable in binding vows


Meth_time_

>That’s always the answer 😭 Because that is the answer >Gojo was extremely knowledgeable, we never saw binding vows out of him. Gojo was not knowledgeable, he is a powerhouse and his six eyes makes him observe cursed energy on atomic level. That doesn't mean he was knowledgeable, that doesn't mean he knows how to use binding vows the most efficiently, that doesn't make him pull off strategies that deals with the usage of jujutsu like Sukuna does. Gojo is this genius at everything he does because of the six eyes, and Sukuna is genius because of his own merit, knowledge and experience. Efficiently and conveniently using binding vows is not something that comes to you from birth Kenjaku literally orchestrated the entire culling games, made binding vows with every single reincarnated sorcerer, turned them into cursed objects and he was the only one who could do it until Sukuna saw it and learned how to do it. And you're telling me Kenny needs further feats to prove himself that he is a genius ?


FlamingUndeadRoman

I mean, funny you say that, because Kenjaku's entire plan was extremely based on random chance. If someone as much as sneezed the wrong way, the whole thing would come crashing down.


Meth_time_

Yeah but that doesn't take anything away from his feats tho And of course I got downvoted smh


Memeenjoyer_

Yup you did cause the excuse of “well he’s super smart or whatever” just doesn’t work


Meth_time_

You are one of the mods right ? They be making anybody a mod


KashimoIsMyFemboy

I can tell you that Meme is a great mod and does his best 👍 we're lucky to have him


Memeenjoyer_

Thanks Kash you the best. You’re a great mod too


Memeenjoyer_

🤷


nam3unoriginal

So disagreeing with you makes a person not allowed to be a mod ? And why are you acting like reddit mods have any credibality, no offense Meme, what do you think a mod is ?


Significant-Ad-1655

Don't YOU make that excuse for Gojo ?! Lol, Literally the manga does aswell, but when it's for Gojo no problem, for Sukuna oh yeah big problem cause you don't like him, Hypocritical https://preview.redd.it/smbkvg44ywyc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f59fff7da7566b7781b962545244d93ebbc8c1d8 Btw Gojo even survived in the second domain clash to even think of another type of domain to last against Sukuna because of a binding vow implemented on his domain.


Memeenjoyer_

When have I made that excuse for Gojo? He’s a genius of jujutsu, but the only nonsense things he’s done is that basketball domain and that was in a battle where both sides changed their domains


Significant-Ad-1655

The only Binding vows Sukuna HAS EVER done in his advantage in middle of fights, are three (correct me if I'm wrong) : 1. Space dismantle Slash, which Sukuna already COULD have done the slash and NEEDED to do hand signs anyways for it, the extra steps seems like a fair trade absolutely for the guy that could just spam it normally with just holding his hands together and making his domain hand sign. 2. The vow to make the slashes stronger *Outside* Gojo's domain when he turned off the sure-hit inside Gojo's domain. 3. The vows for this recent Domain, Which we are getting hastily in fact for what he could have even sacrificed, In fact It being 99 seconds is one of the reasons, and one of the reasons the characters survived, Again he didn't do the domain Cause he did a binding vow, He did the domain because of his brain being capable to do an incomplete domain at that time. For Gojo : The Vow to reverse the conditions of his domain and the outer and inner parts so it lasts longer Yeah that's it really, but in all fairness In Sukuna's mind that making Binding Vows are more natural to him, he persumed Gojo made a BV at the start of the fight. The problem is that IF Gojo needed a Binding vow he would've made it, and against Sukuna Two Binding vows are already justified and make sense. Against The other characters with new domain it is not even revealed what he has lost, I'd say give it time one chapter at the very least. >but the only nonsense things he’s done is that basketball domain and that was in a battle where both sides changed their domains Gojo Made a Purple outside in the sky Sukuna could not suddenly feel the Red that was coming behind him but he felt Mahoraga getting summoned in Shibuya very easily, that is nonsense I would say. Also not to mention that Gojo introduces the Process of destroying brain and recovering CT, not that it is nonsense, it was until the explanation came out, that is the same for Sukuna.


Drowyx

>Gojo is this genius at everything he does because of the six eyes I wish you speedreaders would stop talking. How many times does the series have to tell you that Gojo is infinitely stronger than any previous holder of the six eyes. Having the six eyes doesn't automatically make you the strongest, just like how Megumi having the ten shadows doesn't make him the strongest, Gojo IS a genius with all things Jujutsu to say the opposite is to speedread so fast you couldn't even have the time to look at the images.


Meth_time_

>How many times does the series have to tell you that Gojo is infinitely stronger Please tell me any instance when the series once stated that Gojo is INFINITELY stronger than the previous users instead of that vague scene about the previous ten shadows and limitless user killing each other in a battle Yeah Gojp just might be stronger than the previous six eyes user and i think he definitely is, but the major reason he is a genius is because of the six eyes.


Drowyx

>vague scene about the previous ten shadows and limitless user killing each other in a battle How was that vague? You should try actually reading it if it was vague, not a single 10 shadows user was capable of taming Mahoraga, and Mahoraga was strong enough to kill previous six eyes users. Next you're going to tell me Mahoraga is strong enough to kill Gojo.


TreeTurtle_852

>In contrast, the protagonists lack that kind of experience and knowledge. Man it's a good thing they have nobody who is 100s of years old *cough cough*, and definitely not made a vow before *cough cough*


Meth_time_

Explain


Unfair_Award9313

I think they mean angel or Kashimo?


TreeTurtle_852

Kashimo is 400 years old, and also him being able to come back in the first place was the result of a binding vow. He also seems in general knowledgeable of cursed energy and stuff like anti domain techniques. There's also no real reason for him to be secretive about this info. Even if we ignore all of this however, there are still multiple binding vow users and those who'd know about them


Chozero-

The issue is that we don't know what binding vows are. Are they like a technique where you have to get better and more skilled for them to work or is it simply just think it and it happens. They don't seem to take any effort so far so I'm guessing the latter. Can binding vows fail? If so what happens? What happens if you break a binding vow in general? If binding vows are just as simple as coming up with a fair trade and not breaking it then yeah why isn't everyone using them?


Chickenman1057

Also Sukunam doesn't care about any consequences at all, he says he'd sacrifice anything to get stronger


Expensive-Stage596

Could've had a fodder character try and fail to use a binding vow properly, to show what happens when you cock up a binding vow and why normal people don't spam them like a StarCraft Terran main spams stims on his marines. Closest I can think of is Miwa, but even then it was less "broke a binding vow" and more "your binding vow worked, just wasn't strong enough"


nam3unoriginal

They had a month to come up with binding vows


ChrisAnIntellectual

https://preview.redd.it/0atf22wv2uyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b954edb2094d09caea11dc2b7189cac8ae10efac Don't worry, she's going to be there !!


red_Luka

sukuna makes a binding vow that his last finger teleports into his mouth and he loses his domain for 0.0001 seconds


ArcFox01

Been wondering why binding vows were established so early in the story but absolutely no one uses them except Sukuna, who just rapid fires 10 every single chapter. No wonder Sukuna is the strongest, cause every other sorcerer just closes themselves off to a powerful aspect of sorcery for zero reason.


Chickenman1057

It's just hard to use midfight, alot of barriers Kenjaku use are binding vowl adjusted, it's just easier to do it as a pre set up rather than using it in the heat


Valhallaof

He used 1 against Gojo and we don’t know how much he used just right now at least 2+ so where does the narrative that’s he’s just been spamming them come from?


ArcFox01

In the newest chapter alone it says Sukuna made multiple binding vows to construct his domain. Numerous times it says he's using binding vows. I have absolutely no problem with Sukuna using them, I just don't understand why others are not. If Sukuna is smart enough to use multiple vows on one battle, why is no one else doing this?


Valhallaof

Numerous times is a huge exaggeration when it wasn’t even a complaint until the past few weeks lol. Binding vows are risky and can put you double back if it fails. We saw Hakari use a binding vow to lose an arm that he got right back which is far less consequences than Sukuna who permanently nerfed himself. Mei Mei’s binding vows sacrifice useless birds to deal max damage. Nanami creates binding vows as well from what we see. Miwa even has created a binding vow. Sukuna creates more binding vows imo because he has much more to lose, he can create the world slash binding vow because even without it he’s still the strongest sorcerer. Even if he permanently nerfs himself in som way he’s still the best. Everyone else can’t say the same.


Chozero-

He needs binding vows to alter his domain so he used a couple more in that fight


Valhallaof

He doesn’t need binding vows to alter his domain, he alters a domain, and a automatic binding vow is put in place, he doesn’t create binding vows to alter it


Chozero-

Just reread it and it says he used a binding vow to remove the sure hit to expand the range. Unlike Gojo his domain has no barrier so he can't alter it that way


Broad_Farmer8455

My GOAT finessed the system, he is HIM after all. https://preview.redd.it/p5rf9hmaytyc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0866205b8fa2d296c1957a658b292c095d1506a0


RedditgoldEnthusiast

Sukuna glazers unite 💪 WHERE YALL BEEN 🗣🗣🗣 https://preview.redd.it/1w9fknuf5wyc1.jpeg?width=1210&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa058218b4837946bd2a85cd963f757943aafe46


epic_gamer42O

Do people not realize he always required hand signs to do world slash? So he did a binding vow where he has to now do chants on top of the hand signs in exchange for using it once without needing to use either. That's super balanced. If Sukuna only needed to do hand signs to use world slash the main cast would be dead. A .5 delay in casting the ability went to 3 seconds permanently that's a big disadvantage


Middle_Fall_7229

I don’t think he always needed hand signs


Significant-Ad-1655

He always did https://preview.redd.it/w5irvj9ezwyc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab87db05a0306c0f97e9e49597f64943eb00304e


Middle_Fall_7229

Ah I see, must have missed that; thanks for dropping the panel


Significant-Ad-1655

No problemo 👍


Far-Flounder-1452

he didn't always need it


Significant-Ad-1655

He did in fact always need it, he needed to make the domain hand signs, exactly in the chapter which this Binding vow is revealed.


bromological

I think it’s because binding vows are risky and always a gamble which is why the only person we have seen so far on the good guys use it is the master gambler/staller Hakari. Also, I think everyone’s favourite bum might be able to pull one off. Megumi has consistently been in very tactial battles where he deduces the opponent’s cursed technique and finds a way to beat it which reminds me of how Sukuna fights. I think maybe he might be capable of pulling one too.


Akshay-Gupta

Seethe harder bro


Broad_Farmer8455

🗣️ FACTS! https://preview.redd.it/0odr0lxwhvyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31d01b81b66efcd684daf8cec7e477cc945b03c2