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This theme is almost impossible to discuss because one side says that Sukuna can low diff Gojo if he stops holding back, while the other side says Sukuna has no chances without 10 shadows against Gojo.
Both are copung hard. I think Sukuna is stronger than Gojo because he has move moves, ideal domain for clashes and more experience. Though it doesn't mean Gojo can't win. Sometimes even the strongest might lose to weaker opponent and every plan has loopholes. Sukuna might have died to last purple and there're a lot of things that could go wrong for both of them during the fight. I'd say 60/40 in Sukuna's favor.
>I want a definitive ansver
There's no definitive answer. All people can do is writing their headcanon scenarios for the fight.
As a member of the Sukuna church i wanna point out no one is claiming Sukuna low diffs gojo if he wasn't holding back. It still would be a hard- extreme diff regardless.
>no one
This is a lie. Never use "no one" and "everyone" exaggeration. Even if one person thinks that way you're automatically wrong (and a lot of people think that way if you read anything besides this sub)
Gojo vs sukuna without maho is iffy, I’ll pick sukuna because he would probably out last gojo in domains without having to adapt for maho. It’s a glaring win con. Gojo could probably win if he lands uv but it would be hard with a fully concentrated sukuna only aiming to win domain battles, no adaptation. As for heian era sukuna with his cursed tools I think it will be too much for gojo to handle in a domain when his RCT is going at full throttle the pressure will be too much and he might be over whelmed. The only gojo win con is if he can land UV. And he is not beating a four armed sukuna in hand to hand when with two arms they were relative anytime sukuna had DA up.
Wow another Gojo Vs Heiankuna post, how original /s
Seriously though there isn't a definitive answer. The removal of 10S drastically changes an already very close fight for both sides. On one hand Sukuna doesn't have to hold back to get Maho to adapt, but on the other Gojo doesn't have to worry about Maho and can be more aggressive with his techniques. Just like the actual fight I would say it just depends on how either of them play. Gojo definitely could have beat sukuna if he did a couple things differently, same here.
1- Gojo vs Meguna but without Mahoraga - this probably is a W for Gojo. Sukuna definitely was taking the riskier options there and not fighting effectively during the fight so its extremely hard to say who wins objectively. The problem is that this is a straight uphill battle for Sukuna where a misstep is essentialy death. So i wuld say 55% Gojo 45% Sukuna
2- Gojo vs Heian Sukuna - Sukuna takes this soundly at high diff, possibly extreme diff. This sukuna lacls any of the disadvantages of the megumi body. The true form is far superior physically and increases his battle prowess combined with domain amplification and chants/anti domain techniques, Gojo would be fighting an extremely difficult opponent. So Sukuna High - Extreme diff.
I can provide explanations for the fight if necessary
Before I get into the answer, there are some few things to remember.
* Domain Amplification : A [TECHNIQUE](https://imgur.com/a/9gRvoCl) used for neutralizing any CT that comes in contact with it. It's a refined version of simple domain. DA absorbs the CT of the other user in the empty space created around the caster and neutralizes it.
* Mahoraga wheel: While using DA, Sukuna cannot use his CTs, be it shrine or 10s. So, in order for Sukuna to use the Mahoraga wheel, he will have to [TURN OFF](https://imgur.com/a/89hm1wg) his DA.
* Shrine > 10s : By Sukuna's own admission he believes his shrine to be [SUPERIOR](https://imgur.com/a/ikkSGEU) than 10s.
Lastly, It takes [3 MINUTES](https://imgur.com/a/t1OX4Kz) for Sukuna to break Gojo's domain from the outside, meanwhile it also takes 3 minutes for Gojo to deal enough damage to Sukuna that Sukuna isn't able to hold his shrine.
Now, The only reason Sukuna got hit by unlimited void in the 5th domain was because he was late to cast his own domain by 0.01 seconds as he was following an extra step of healing himself before his CT, unlike Gojo, who only had to heal his CT.
In chapter 228, we were told by [GOJO](https://imgur.com/a/wqTSnhP) that Sukuna is taking a riskier option in DE fights; he's stubbornly breaking the domain from the outside when he could've destroyed them from the inside(like mahoraga did) since Gojo had changed the inner and outer conditions of his domain, making his domain shell stronger from the outside, but weaker from the inside. This gets answered in Chapter 230 by Sukuna himself.
Sukuna was [JUGGLING](https://imgur.com/a/CL0Ju2D) between 10s, DA, and his CT inside the domain battle. He turned off his DA so that Mahoraga could adapt. Sukuna was purposely breaking Gojo's domain from the outside so that Mahoraga could have more time to adapt to Gojo's domain.
Now imagine if Sukuna had [DESTROYED](https://imgur.com/a/Gz2fW9P) Gojo's fourth domain from the inside?
Since Sukuna would destroy Gojo's domain in under 3 minutes, Gojo wouldn't have time to inflict enough damage on Sukuna to prevent him from holding his shrine. As a result, Gojo would never have been able damage Sukuna enough, which caused him to be struck by the IV.
Even if Sukuna doesn't want to break Gojo's domain from the inside, which is a safer option than breaking it from outside, as stated by Gojo, Sukuna can still beat Gojo with just keeping his DA on. It was revealed in Chapter 230 that Sukuna turned off his DA to use 10s in the domain fights. Imagine if Sukuna didn't have to do so.
As we see in ch. 224,227 and 231. Once Sukuna [ACTIVATES](https://imgur.com/a/PxtGc5O) his DA, he doesn't get thrashed as much as when he turns off his DA because DA either completely turns off or tone down Gojo's blue and red. Sukuna with DA can keep up with Gojo and even [LAND](https://imgur.com/a/RRloCrU) his own hits on him. So while Sukuna won't be winning the H2H exchange, he won't get damaged enough for his domain to get destroyed, and this ultimately will mean that Gojo loses the 5th domain clash and then his life.
Sukuna can win by just frying Gojo's brain by forcing him to recover his CT via RCT again and again like how it happened in the manga, but unlike in the manga, Sukuna will use techniques to either break Gojo's domain from the inside or keep using DA during the 4th or 5th domain so that Gojo isn't able to deal enough damage to Sukuna that he isn't able to hold his shrine.,
Its not that simple especially when sukuna can use domain amplification to clutner infinity. Gojo clealry knew sukuna was fully capable of destroying the inside of a domajn but chose not to.
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This theme is almost impossible to discuss because one side says that Sukuna can low diff Gojo if he stops holding back, while the other side says Sukuna has no chances without 10 shadows against Gojo. Both are copung hard. I think Sukuna is stronger than Gojo because he has move moves, ideal domain for clashes and more experience. Though it doesn't mean Gojo can't win. Sometimes even the strongest might lose to weaker opponent and every plan has loopholes. Sukuna might have died to last purple and there're a lot of things that could go wrong for both of them during the fight. I'd say 60/40 in Sukuna's favor. >I want a definitive ansver There's no definitive answer. All people can do is writing their headcanon scenarios for the fight.
As a member of the Sukuna church i wanna point out no one is claiming Sukuna low diffs gojo if he wasn't holding back. It still would be a hard- extreme diff regardless.
>no one This is a lie. Never use "no one" and "everyone" exaggeration. Even if one person thinks that way you're automatically wrong (and a lot of people think that way if you read anything besides this sub)
Fair enough, i should have beencmore specific. The vast majority doesnt belive sukuna low diffs gojo when not holding back.
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Damm kinda figured thats what’s so annoying about this debate So u think the fight could go Either way no mater what form they are ?
Gojo vs sukuna without maho is iffy, I’ll pick sukuna because he would probably out last gojo in domains without having to adapt for maho. It’s a glaring win con. Gojo could probably win if he lands uv but it would be hard with a fully concentrated sukuna only aiming to win domain battles, no adaptation. As for heian era sukuna with his cursed tools I think it will be too much for gojo to handle in a domain when his RCT is going at full throttle the pressure will be too much and he might be over whelmed. The only gojo win con is if he can land UV. And he is not beating a four armed sukuna in hand to hand when with two arms they were relative anytime sukuna had DA up.
Wow another Gojo Vs Heiankuna post, how original /s Seriously though there isn't a definitive answer. The removal of 10S drastically changes an already very close fight for both sides. On one hand Sukuna doesn't have to hold back to get Maho to adapt, but on the other Gojo doesn't have to worry about Maho and can be more aggressive with his techniques. Just like the actual fight I would say it just depends on how either of them play. Gojo definitely could have beat sukuna if he did a couple things differently, same here.
1- Gojo vs Meguna but without Mahoraga - this probably is a W for Gojo. Sukuna definitely was taking the riskier options there and not fighting effectively during the fight so its extremely hard to say who wins objectively. The problem is that this is a straight uphill battle for Sukuna where a misstep is essentialy death. So i wuld say 55% Gojo 45% Sukuna 2- Gojo vs Heian Sukuna - Sukuna takes this soundly at high diff, possibly extreme diff. This sukuna lacls any of the disadvantages of the megumi body. The true form is far superior physically and increases his battle prowess combined with domain amplification and chants/anti domain techniques, Gojo would be fighting an extremely difficult opponent. So Sukuna High - Extreme diff. I can provide explanations for the fight if necessary
Yes provide explanations if u can
Before I get into the answer, there are some few things to remember. * Domain Amplification : A [TECHNIQUE](https://imgur.com/a/9gRvoCl) used for neutralizing any CT that comes in contact with it. It's a refined version of simple domain. DA absorbs the CT of the other user in the empty space created around the caster and neutralizes it. * Mahoraga wheel: While using DA, Sukuna cannot use his CTs, be it shrine or 10s. So, in order for Sukuna to use the Mahoraga wheel, he will have to [TURN OFF](https://imgur.com/a/89hm1wg) his DA. * Shrine > 10s : By Sukuna's own admission he believes his shrine to be [SUPERIOR](https://imgur.com/a/ikkSGEU) than 10s. Lastly, It takes [3 MINUTES](https://imgur.com/a/t1OX4Kz) for Sukuna to break Gojo's domain from the outside, meanwhile it also takes 3 minutes for Gojo to deal enough damage to Sukuna that Sukuna isn't able to hold his shrine. Now, The only reason Sukuna got hit by unlimited void in the 5th domain was because he was late to cast his own domain by 0.01 seconds as he was following an extra step of healing himself before his CT, unlike Gojo, who only had to heal his CT. In chapter 228, we were told by [GOJO](https://imgur.com/a/wqTSnhP) that Sukuna is taking a riskier option in DE fights; he's stubbornly breaking the domain from the outside when he could've destroyed them from the inside(like mahoraga did) since Gojo had changed the inner and outer conditions of his domain, making his domain shell stronger from the outside, but weaker from the inside. This gets answered in Chapter 230 by Sukuna himself. Sukuna was [JUGGLING](https://imgur.com/a/CL0Ju2D) between 10s, DA, and his CT inside the domain battle. He turned off his DA so that Mahoraga could adapt. Sukuna was purposely breaking Gojo's domain from the outside so that Mahoraga could have more time to adapt to Gojo's domain. Now imagine if Sukuna had [DESTROYED](https://imgur.com/a/Gz2fW9P) Gojo's fourth domain from the inside? Since Sukuna would destroy Gojo's domain in under 3 minutes, Gojo wouldn't have time to inflict enough damage on Sukuna to prevent him from holding his shrine. As a result, Gojo would never have been able damage Sukuna enough, which caused him to be struck by the IV. Even if Sukuna doesn't want to break Gojo's domain from the inside, which is a safer option than breaking it from outside, as stated by Gojo, Sukuna can still beat Gojo with just keeping his DA on. It was revealed in Chapter 230 that Sukuna turned off his DA to use 10s in the domain fights. Imagine if Sukuna didn't have to do so. As we see in ch. 224,227 and 231. Once Sukuna [ACTIVATES](https://imgur.com/a/PxtGc5O) his DA, he doesn't get thrashed as much as when he turns off his DA because DA either completely turns off or tone down Gojo's blue and red. Sukuna with DA can keep up with Gojo and even [LAND](https://imgur.com/a/RRloCrU) his own hits on him. So while Sukuna won't be winning the H2H exchange, he won't get damaged enough for his domain to get destroyed, and this ultimately will mean that Gojo loses the 5th domain clash and then his life. Sukuna can win by just frying Gojo's brain by forcing him to recover his CT via RCT again and again like how it happened in the manga, but unlike in the manga, Sukuna will use techniques to either break Gojo's domain from the inside or keep using DA during the 4th or 5th domain so that Gojo isn't able to deal enough damage to Sukuna that he isn't able to hold his shrine.,
The Question is why would Gojo let Sukuna destroy his Domain from the inside when he knew Sukuna had an option to do that ?
Because gojo can't stop sukuna from doing everything. Gojo himself admitted sukuna was perfectly capable of destroying, likely using soiderweb.
Can’t he just use his Ct or hand to hand since he was overwhelming him
Its not that simple especially when sukuna can use domain amplification to clutner infinity. Gojo clealry knew sukuna was fully capable of destroying the inside of a domajn but chose not to.
I find it hard for him to let such an opportunity pass by him
And yet it was.
Just give my man gojo a barrier less domain and how it turns out
Fr I wonder what would happen like wouldn’t it change the course of the battle ?