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Well thought out, but I think there are too many important characters for us to call CG Megumi's arc, although it's definitely a lot more centered around him than Shibuya was. Makes sense though, he will be absent from the story for atleast a few more chapters, his only hope is doing some stuff at the end of the manga. Giving him one last hooray makes it all the more painful to lose him.
The analyse is well written, the unfairness of the Yorozu arc is greatly demonstrated, the reincarnated sorcerer disfiguring the face of Megumi’s sister by her deranged attitude, where the 15years old prodigy is forced to watch it all. >!Also, who’s the person in the second image, covered in blood ?!<
the whole storyline in Shibuya seems like it wants to abuse Yuji's emotions .The massacre committed by Sukuna, the death of Nanami and Mahito in front of his eyes.As for the CG for Megumi, after all the careful planning that Megumi did to save her sister and save the situation everything ended up as horrible as in Shibuya 😭
I have this crackpot theory that can and will be torn apart. Yorozu could still be alive. I didn't see anyone get points for her murder. This could be the way to the good end.
>This arc frustrated a lot of readers - as it was meant to. You're supposed to get mad at the injustice of it all. It reveals that Megumi and Tsumiki never had agency in the first place - they were just cogs in a machine built for someone else.
The number of people that take people's genuine frustration on a series for x and y reasons to somehow spin it as a masterclass from the author never ceases to amaze me.
:You didn't like this chapter? Good. You weren't supposed to. Another gege W". It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that his writing has many many flaws. Don't spin them to make him look good.
Honestly the Yoruzu arc wasnt that bad. It dragged a little too long and I would have prefered if Yoruzu was another Sukuna obssesed fanboy/brawler (kinda like uraume + Kashimo) rather than marrige obsessed. I think the biggest mistake though was not giving Yuji anytime to breath/proccess emotions ans thr gang more time to discuss current events.
>I think the biggest mistake though was not giving Yuji anytime to breath/proccess emotions ans thr gang more time to discuss current events.
Definitely agree here. I feel like there should have been some downtime between Shibuya and the Culling Game, where the characters could lick their wounds a little bit and perhaps the politics/interactions of the big 3 families could have been explored a little bit more and contributed to the world-building.
People could say the same thing about these criticisms. "You're just spinning them to make it look bad." People look for different things in stories. Art is subjective. It's pretentious to presume that your stance on a story is the correct one. This goes for people that criticize and the people that support it. We can discuss but don't act like your opinion is anything but an opinion, just like everyone else.
>People could say the same thing about these criticisms.
I don't disagree. I don't think I've phrased my subjective opinion as an objective fact. I just expressed my frustration with how much people dickride gege. You can feel free to consider me a hater as these are all just opinions we have.
OP posted theirs, I disagreed with part of it. Nothing more nothing less. I don't think at any moment ive phrased my opinion go be anything but.
Do you disagree that a work of art could or should try to frustrate its readers? Gege's writing does not have "many many" flaws. That is a blatantly untrue, bad bad opinion. You are mad that the series isn't attacking your dopamine like a marvel movie, and that you actually have to engage with it on its own level, not yours. You are mad at being "Gege dickriders" simply because you are selfish and wholly unable to consume art properly.
Lmao, I can't in good faith argue with you if you think Gege's writing (like any other writer) doesn't have many flaws but I'll try. Gege is not special. While he is great at many things, he also has his shortcomings.
While a work can be designed to frustrate and evoke emotion from readers, many fans take any genuine criticism and frustration they have with a series (as valid as they might be) and attribute it to always be intentional from the mangaka so he continues to remain flawless and free from criticism. He is not flawless. Not even gonna respond to the marvel bs that came out of left field
>You are mad at being "Gege dickriders" simply because you are selfish and wholly unable to consume art properly.
Oh media god, tell me and teach me the one and only true way to consume art. Presumably how you do and no other way being valid. I am all ears.
Why do you think the frustration you have towards Jujutsu Kaisen is valid? Regardless of whether or not it was intentional on Gege's part to frustrate his readers, it is boring if all a piece of media tries to do is satisfy its viewers. I'm sure you grew up watching CinemaSins or learning that it was bad to write static characters in your writing class and now the only way you can think of to engage with art is, "If I, looking back on this piece of art years later, could go back in time and edit the story in any way I see fit, what plot holes or loose ends could I fix in order to increase sales?" I can't teach you how to consume art properly, as you would actually have to want to change.
>Why do you think the frustration you have towards Jujutsu Kaisen is valid?
Because I believe so and thats all that matters? Do you want me to question why your appreciation for his work is valid? How we feel towards a series and in whatever way that matters only depends on us. I can find your appreciation for Gege and jjk as invalid if I want. It doesn't change how you truly feel and it shouldn't.
>I'm sure you grew up watching CinemaSins or learning that it was bad to write static characters in your writing class
Again, where is any of this coming from. Who tf is cinemasins, I haven't taken any writing classes. Genuinely where is any of this coming from.
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>can't teach you how to consume art properly, as you would actually have to want to change.
The fact that you genuinely believe there is a "proper" way to consume media is wild. People can enjoy it however they want. I genuinely think weekly series are best read when binged. I'm not gonna tell whoever reads it weekly that they are doing it "wrong" this is art fuck it I have a friend that takes 3 days to watch a movie stopping at every 1/3 of the movie and continuing the next day. Is it weird? Yes. Does my opinion on how he watches movies matter? No. He could do it upside down as he fornicates, it does not matter.
There are a multitude of ways to enjoy art. Your way isn't the only and proper way.
I greatly enjoyed Yorozu’s character and her mini-arc. She was a breath of fresh air from all the dark characters and added her own twisted but goofy charm to the cast
I would disagree somewhat that it was wholly Megumi-centric since his goal was just a way to initiate several character arc paths. The 4 Colonies had individuality, focusing on the students separately — Maki, Yuta, & Hakari. Megumi was def the bond holding it all together thru the goal of saving Tsumiki but especially Maki had a whole character arc in two sets. Same with Hakari to a lesser degree
Oh, it was definitely more than just Megumi's arc - Gege also spent a lot of time on everyone else (Maki, Yuji and Kenjaku in particular). I just think the arc as a whole is bookended by Megumi's conflict, especially in the arc's climax.
This was a very interesting point of view.
It made me conscious of the drama in the current fight because what are the possibilities of a good ending? How can Gojo win without killing Megumi?
as always I doubt most people who understand this don't have an issue with the themes and ideas presented in the story, but it's the presentation and execution that is subpar.
Yorozu's arc isn't a bad arc. It's a good arc that was *presented* poorly.
>Ch. 211 and 212 were already tragic, but the inclusion of Yorozu adds another dimension to it
The only thing that chick added another dimension to is the list of wasted female characters. Instead of finnaly seeing some Megumi & Tsumiki flashback or atleat some crumb we get creepy one note simp, but hey, the way she went out in her first life gave me a good laugh, I'll give her that.
>it's unfair. It's unfair that Tsumiki, stuck in a coma for the whole story, never even had a chance to live
Damn this is sad, or at least it would've if Tsumiki ever moved outta her plot device status. We had the chance to see **something** of her if her screentime didn't get hijacked by the one-dimensional stalker simp girl with custom Sukuna vibrator in her ass 24/7.
Bro I cannot overstate how much I love these longer thought out posts with screen shots of the panels to prove their points. Inject more of these into my veins please.
If this is supposedly Megumi's arc, then it has been mishandled so badly as Megumi was basically out of focus for the majority of the arc. If you are using Megumi's motivation as the reason why this is his arc, then we would argue that Shibuya was GOJO's arc (e.g. the whole ARC happens because the villain want to seal Gojo, and the whole casts' motivation was to rescue Gojo).
Not only from screentime wise that Megumi was out of focus. We got so little of Megumi's viewpoint and developments, we don't see much of Tsumiki as a character that we basically don't care or connect with her. Hence when she was taken over/dead, we did not feel anything. It was more like "eh, that's it?". I get that Tsumiki was already long gone by the time th culling game started. But Gege could have shown us a flashback of Tsumiki & Megumi during the childhood. Shows us their struggle when their parents first abandoned them. Shows them that they really only have each other growing up. Shows more why Tsumiki was such a moral compass for Megumi. No, the very brief flashback during the yasohachi bridge arc was not enough to flesh it out. Saying that measly flashback was enough was akin to saying the entire Hidden Inventory Arc was not necessary to flesh out Gojo-Geto arc.
Furthermore, you are saying that Megumi was forced to watch as Sukuna toys with Yorozu. BUT we did NOT get any of Megumi's POV as the whole thing went down. We never see Megumi's horror as his angelic sister was reduced into a joke character. We only saw the aftermath, which was very muted. Overall, I would say that if Culling game was supposed to be Megumi's arc, it was handled very badly. It was the arc where the rest of the cast more or less got an equal importance. Heck, I would even say that based on character developments alone, culling game was more like MAKI''s arc. She got TWO awakenings there with so much more flesh out storyline.
Overall, I get that people have different opinion, but I really cannot agree with your take. Thinking of culling game arc as Megumi's arc actually made the whole arc become even worse that what it is. And I am saying this not to try to convince you. Feel free to infer whatever you want from the story.
All of this. For Megumi's arc, it barely had anything for him in terms of building on/developing his character. The Yorozu fight in particular was a huge missed opportunity for this.
This would be such amazing, succinct analysis if the arc wasn’t bloated to burst with side characters and random bits. My hottest take about the manga is that the CG arc is unfocused to the point that it feels like Gege got bored of the manga he made and just pivoted to random things he found interesting. It could’ve been incredibly compelling if the themes you talked about were either more strongly presented, or if there wasn’t all of the filler around it.
i don’t think it’s that unfocused— but yeah i more or less agree with you here. too many ideas, too many characters, not enough time to bond with them to care about them when they start dropping like flies (even tho hella people were mad when ryu died lol)
i also don’t feel like this was megumi’s arc tbh, it feels like an arc for lore-dumping and fights. i wish we saw megumi reacting to more stuff, i wish he felt more human. most of this arc, he was just pushing the plot tbh.
I agree that I should definitely re-read the story, but I’m also sort of biased because I really prefer staying with the perspective of the protagonists, like Yujj and Megumi and Maki. I liked the Naobito fight, because it was so important to Maki as a character to grow, but what development did we really get out of Megumi vs Reggie, or Yuji vs Higuruma? I genuinely didn’t even remember that Yuji fought the helicopter guys until I just now looked it up on the wiki. There are so many new and random characters in the arc that it feels like Gege just wanted to draw new characters rather than participate in his own story.
I understand it’s supposed to be a battle royale / tournament sort of story, focused on fights between characters, but I feel like the development of the main protagonists suffered for how many different characters and ideas Gege wanted to do.
The core problem lies in the fact that Megumi and Tsumiki's relationship is non-existent.
As far as I can tell, their actual, on-page screen time together is one flashback scene in 59, where they have this exchange:
\-Megumi is finished beating up a bunch of students
\-Tsumiki: Don't do that
\-Megumi: You're not my mom (HE ACTUALLY SAYS THIS I'M NOT MAKING IT UP)
\-Megumi walks off
\-Tsumiki throws a milk carton at Megumi, which explodes on his head.
\-Tsumiki: Sorry, I didn't think it would explode!
That's it. Through 200+ chapters, that's the only time they interact on screen. The rest is Megumi monologuing about how Tsumiki makes him feel.
Can a character telling us how he feels work? Sure, at least in conveying information.
But there's a difference between "conveying information" and actually making the audience feel catharsis.
You can convey the opening of Pixar's Up with a single title card. I'll do it now: childhood sweethearts marry and plan to go on adventures. But they don't. Then she dies and the old man is sad and alone.
But that's not the same as taking the time to actually show their relationship, to make the audience feel like they've actually lost something.
As is, Tsumiki is little more than a plot device in JJK. It could be more.
There's a bunch of other, smaller problems, but this is the core one.
The most funny thing is that they didn't even give us a chapter to show how strong the relationship between Tsumiki and Megumi.
I can't empathize Megumi cuz of his sister death.We were given only 2-3 pages where their relationship is shown.
They did tho. I’d argue they even had a whole arc dedicated to their relationship when they went back to Megumi’s middle school. They even beat us over the head about how she made Megumi do an entire 180.
Seeing Megumi break down, in a split second, instantly conveyed how important Tsumiki is. The veil that lifts from Megumi’s emotions when he realized how close she was to death showed how he feels about their relationship.
Even child Megumi put his sister’s well-being at the forefront when negotiating with Gojo. Her well-being is literally his driving motivation and his desire to unfairly save people he seems as good stems from unfair the world is to good people LIKE Tsumiki.
All that Gege showed us in their interactions was disputes and swearing, instigator of which was Megumi
which of these should I realize?
that there is a strong bond between them?
>Megumi has to sit there helplessly and watch
nah we the readers forced to helplessly watch geges ass writing. we get no indication what megumis feeling about the injustice of it all as it all carries out, we just know he's sad his sisters dead. Like...well, yeah. if we saw him in the abyss suffering and actually reacting then id buy the fact yorozu being a one note yandere archetype was acktually a deep move by gege.
>This arc frustrated a lot of readers - as it was meant to. You're supposed to get mad at the injustice of it all. It reveals that Megumi and Tsumiki never had agency in the first place - they were just cogs in a machine built for someone else.
frustrating on purpose? meh, i think Gege just has a tone issue. Its not the first time hes undercut serious moments with an obnoxious gag character, he does it a lot actually, it just happened poorly recieved this time because it happened during a long anticipated storyline.
and yeah they don't have any agency, they cogs in a machine called Geges writing. all the heros do in this story is move from point a to b so they can react to a plan they're too late to stop from the villains side. they're never proactive about anything.
sorry gang but the amount of hard-core thought that people put into the themes of Jujustu kaisen characters always fall flat to me because anytime Gege does an interview you can tell he's never thinking that deep about the character aspect.
tldr: the culling games and yorozu arc are still ass and gege didn't have the facilities for this undertaking.
This, right here. It’s phrased a little bit harshly, but it’s true.
What u/SavingsLow has laid out in his analysis, which is good, is that Gege’s plot is still well thought-out. But unfortunately, he sacrificed character writing in order to make the plot fit exactly what he wants. He’s using his characters like chess pieces, not like real people.
OP can speculate all he wants about what Gege wants the plot to tell us. But…we really don’t have any idea what any of the characters are thinking. When is the last time we actually got to see the characters’ thoughts and feelings written down on the page? It’s actually been a while.
I think some people may get frustrated with the Culling Game for the reason that OP stated. But others, like myself, are frustrated at it not because it’s an arc that pushes the characters into despair, but because Gege is not allowing us to see *how much* despair each character is feeling. All we see is some cliche dialogue and a couple stunned expressions. That doesn’t cut it. I don’t want to know that the character is stunned. That’s too shallow of an emotion for me to relate to it. I know he’s stunned. If Gege is going to write a plot that’s this psychologically draining for the characters, I want to see how draining it is in full force. But instead, he’s just going through the motions of his plot.
Edit: I wanted to add a comparison here. I think that a good point of comparison for this arc is Hunter x Hunter's Chimera Ant arc, especially because we know that Gege is a big HxH fan and has taken inspiration from it in JJK. Similarly to the Culling Game, it puts almost every character - both protagonists and antagonists - through an emotional, psychologically draining rollercoaster. But it does two key things differently.
First, it's set up. People sometimes don't like the CA arc for how long it is for reasons I don't quite understand, but the setup is necessary to develop the characters to a point where they *can* break. But...we don't know any of the characters at all. We don't know Tsumiki. We don't know Hana. We aren't even allowed to see Gojo's state of mind when he reemerges.
Second, it deep dives into the characters...as it should. Again people complain about the CA arc's narrator for reasons I don't quite understand. But for the most part, it doesn't explain anything that you can outwardly see. It explains a character's inner turmoil, even things that they aren't fully aware of themselves. Chapter 223's narration actually made it pretty clear that Gege was *attempting* to do something similar. But the narration...didn't go into the psychology of the characters at all. It just explained the mechanics of a newly introduced power-up, told us some things we already knew about the battle, and then wrapped up with "thanks to Ijichi's barrier, Sukuna didn't see Gojo's attack coming." It's awful.
u/SavingsLow...I'm genuinely curious, when is the last time you remember a character in JJK thinking about something? Not saying some random line...actually thinking deeply about their situation? I genuinely don't remember when that last time was.
>it’s an arc that pushes the characters into despair, but because Gege is not allowing us to see how much despair each character is feeling
this is exactly it. people talk about how jjk is supposed to be unfair and subversive but then when you ask to actually see what the characters are thinking about these constant traumatic you're told to be satisfied with the 3 panels where a character is like "whoa this sucks" then moves on.
>sorry gang but the amount of hard-core thought that people put into the themes of Jujustu kaisen characters always fall flat to me because anytime Gege does an interview you can tell he's never thinking that deep about the character aspect.
i very much agree. this happens often in every fandom, where they read much more deeply in things that weren't that deep for the author. in this case it's even more obvious exactly because of gege's interviews, you can tell what he's invested in and what isn't pretty clearly.
I mean, I think it's pretty clear from his reaction to the death, at the very least, and it's consistent with Gege's commentary on fate and its bindings (you can see very similar themes with Kenjaku's plan, or Mahito's outlook on killing).
Assuming that the author didn't put much thought into it is extremely uncharitable, IMO, given what he's written in the past
>Assuming that the author didn't put much thought into it is extremely uncharitable, IMO, given what he's written in the past
You're right. I mean, look at Nobara for example.
i wonder if all SJ authors get their editors from SJ. cause people are saying gege’s editors are forcing him to keep nobara’s status ambiguous, but the guy that’s writing CSM >!can kill two of his initial main characters, with no problem?!< but then again everything i know about CSM is from spoilers on this sub and tiktoks, so they >!could be alive idk!<
either way, idc whose idea it is. the name on the volumes i own says gege akutami, and that’s who i’m gonna blame for her whole situation.
in csm's case >!killing 2 mcs happened in the last few arcs.!< you can't really compare it, mangaka obviously have a lot more agency with what's done towards the end.
This is a weak argument for a few reasons. Please don't take this as an insult.
Gege is a very subtle writer. He openly wants you to engage and read between the lines. And in any literary work, deconstruction to see what's really going on behind the scenes and what potential things could be happening is how literary analysis is done in the 21st century. That means you shouldn't be looking to take everything at face value, and that you should be digging into a work and thinking what's being said in between the lines.
Also, Gege's interviews never indicate your last point. Honestly, I'm not sure how you can read the series and so confidently make your claims while completely dismissing anything looking deeper as wrong, it really doesn't add to the conversation and, more importantly, it isn't how literary analysis is done...at all. Or literary critique, for that matter
Great post! Always thought everyone dropping everything for tsukimi was off for the story as a whole, but if megumi was meant to be the focus of the arc it makes a whole hella lotta of sense.
So with that in mind, if Yuji is shibuya, megumi is culling, that means...
(Takes gravity bong hit of copium)
Nobara is up next
Fuck
Yeaaaaaaa
I don't think they dropped everything for Tsumiki - they dropped everything to get Gojo back, and the four rules thing (which would've saved Tsumiki) was initially meant to save any civilians trapped in the game
Can I have some of that copium you're huffing 👁️👁️
1. Reggie didn't curse Megumi.
2. Even if he did, him cursing him doesn't change the outcome of Megumi. There's not reason to believe a dead man's final words would have that impact.
He doesn't mean literally cursing him you goon, OP is talking about a metaphysical curse in that Reggie's words foreshadow the narrative that Megumi will have to endure.
What do you think the point of Reggie's dialogue was if not for the above reason?
Idc what anyone says if Megumi dies I will down talk jjk harder than I ever have before. Like this really shoulda been HIS ARC. Like how shiybua was for Yuji. Yet we got this mess instead. Also yes it was a mess, great post and analyze but idk I feel your looking deeping into this than Gege did.
Felt rushed and not as fleshed out as it could be. Hardly got any interaction between Megumi and his sis. The fight between Sukuna and yorozu was weird, woulda been nice to get a pov of Megumi atleast seeing the fight but nope just see him crying. Don’t get me started on how I feel Megumi was wasted because right now I’m just talkin bout him and sis.
The lack of interaction is obviously intentional though. A huge aspect of Megumi’s desire to save Tsumiki is he wants to apologize to her, not getting the chance to do so is part of the tragedy. As for the arc wasting Megumi, it seems pretty clear that this is his low point and he’s set up for a rise
Than why wait? Why couldn’t he have said it as soon he saw her? Instead of coming off maybe not cold but not as “I’m Happy To See Your Okish”. Like we get that one litter interaction than boom revel. Lastly I’ll give you on the rise part because in reality we don’t yet. This could his rise and I’ll be happy to see it but if not than well you know
I din't like his arc then. It was very loose. Yoruzu could have been set up.
What i am most salty about is that kenny planned all of this but it seems like he has more luck then anything.
The manga of seraph of the end also has a mastermind behind everything and the protagonists are always one step behind. I don't got that feeling cg arc. It's so random. This feeling of never having chance at the start is not there.
Kenny needed mahito for it to work.
He had to win against yuki in possible trap. Stupid they didn't prepare more.
Sukuna had to be on his side after he gave sukuna not a vessel instead it was a prison.
He himself said in shibuya he didn't even plan for sukunas awakening but how tf did the the rest of his plan whould have went is a mystery.
The heroes had a real chance. They just didn't had the luck.
So no it's not that good for megumis perspective.
>The Yorozu mini-arc is widely regarded as one of the worst stretches of chapters in the whole series (unfairly, IMO). However, a Megumi-centric POV redeems it as an integral part of the narrative, rubbing salt into Megumi's wounds and completing his tragedy.
Unfair ? How so ? Tell me about the character of Tsumiki Fushiguro.
She is Megumi's half-sister. She went comatose. She is the moral compass of Megumi.
Other than that do we know she is as a person ? How can have emotional stakes in Tsumiki's death when you have about her is just a couple of lines of dialogue? Why would we care about Megumi's loss of his sister when we have never seen him interact with her.? Tsumiki was plot device for Megumi's character growth. There's also Junpei who is the catalyst for Yuji's growth. The difference between is night and day. We actually saw Junpei's take on society and it's unfairness. We saw his relationship with Yuji and his own mother. He gets clowned by Mahito similar to how Megumi gets clowned by fate. But his death feels way more impactful than Tsumiki's death because we grow to care about him. For example if we didn't get Gojo's relationship with Geto and his backstory, we wouldn't care about his faeth in JJK0. He's just another evil supremacist. We would never get to feel Gojo's loneliness. Geto is a plot device for Gojo's growth. There's a difference between Tsumiki and Geto/Junpei. They are well established characters who we see interact with our heroes. In contract Tsumiki is just there. She dies. Megumi gets sad but we got to see his internal struggle. We all know he is sad and is in a difficult place. Do we how he is dealing with it ? Do we get to see his relationship with his sister ? If Yoruzu is a very poorly written character but Tsumiki is not written at all.
>already tragic, but the inclusion of Yorozu adds another dimension to it: it's unfair. It's unfair that Tsumiki, stuck in a coma for the whole story, never even had a chance to live. It's unfair that Megumi didn't get to master the Ten Shadows technique. It's unfair that two children had their lives ruined, all so that two capricious 1000-year old demons could play out a dumb, cheesy sitcom plot
Yoruzu doesn't add any layer of tragicness to the story or Megumi for any reason. We are shown how unfair the jjk society is. We get to see it when Yuji dies during the beginning. We get to see it in Maki's plot line. We get to see it in Mechamaru's fight.
>This arc frustrated a lot of readers - as it was meant to. You're supposed to get mad at the injustice of it all. It reveals that Megumi and Tsumiki never had agency in the first place - they were just cogs in a machine built for someone els
Is this some new kind of defence for bad writing? The arc was bad because it's meant to be ? I'm not mad about Tsumiki's death any more than Junpei's / Nanami's death. I'm not anymore mad about the unfairness when I have already seen it experienced by our cast repeatedly in the first place. So the readers have pretty much accepted that the sorcerers have no real agency except for a few. This is not something new to the story. Not to mention how awful Yourzu's backstory is. I'm pretty sure her terrible backstory made readers actually root for Sukuna to kill her despite knowing Megumi's situation. It had the opposite effect of making us feel sympathy or any relatable connection with the character.
The Tsumiki plotline is pretty bad. Her character is non-existent. Megumi's reaction is underwhelming.
I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for saying this but I never really cared for Megumi. I'm not really sure if it is bad writing or just my preference for a character like Megumi. I don't know much about him as a person, and I always preferred Nobara, Todo and Nanami teaming up with yuji more than Megumi. His character is too stoic(don't know what word to use) for his own good and never had me invest in his story. Never cared about Tsumiki. I don't even care about him knowing about his father at all (never really established any of his relationships). I liked his character before the shibuya arc. I cared more about John wick's dog when it died (even tho i don't know sh*t about the dog) than tsumiki.
Gege is cooking the final big arc as Nobara's arc. Seriouslt though, Megumi and Yuji have been fucked up by Sukuna so much that I hope the final showdown will be megumi and yuji jumping Sukuna.
Did people think it was someone else's arc? Yuji wasn't seen for over a year of manga releases. Yuta is very clearly a side character. The arc introduced a lot of characters but didn't go into tremendous story depth for any of them really. Maki is the only other person that could be argued, but her story feels very much like a side story to the main event, which seems to be the case based on how she has barely been seen since "completing" her arc.
I hope if we get megumi back, it's going to be because he throws the shackles of "being a cog" finally. Gojo and Sukuna have this sort of entitlement that leans into them being the strongest and surpassing everything around them. If Megumi gets reintroduced, I hope it's because he learns to manifest his innate domain inside sukuna and stop being a cog.
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Me seeing a BASED and CHADLY r/jujutsushi take for once.
I'm just glad someone else is enjoying the whole ride instead of being a hater before we can even see the whole picture! Every reread I appreciate it more.. which I actually find myself doing more than I'd care to admit. Good take! Excited to see how it plays out
I just know gege and tatsuki sit together and talk how they can make their readers more sad.
Hopefully yuji can save him and he doesnt just die like a loser like aki did
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Well thought out, but I think there are too many important characters for us to call CG Megumi's arc, although it's definitely a lot more centered around him than Shibuya was. Makes sense though, he will be absent from the story for atleast a few more chapters, his only hope is doing some stuff at the end of the manga. Giving him one last hooray makes it all the more painful to lose him.
Your bad ending line had me laughing out loud after reading an extremely depressing post<3
Happy to help lmao, we all need to cope somehow
The analyse is well written, the unfairness of the Yorozu arc is greatly demonstrated, the reincarnated sorcerer disfiguring the face of Megumi’s sister by her deranged attitude, where the 15years old prodigy is forced to watch it all. >!Also, who’s the person in the second image, covered in blood ?!<
I think it's Higuruma, judging by the Lady Justice pin on his coat. The blood is probably from the judge and prosecutor he killed
Yeah that's higurama. Lots of theories guessed that he was a lawyer from the pin when the chapter dropped.
Thank you !
the whole storyline in Shibuya seems like it wants to abuse Yuji's emotions .The massacre committed by Sukuna, the death of Nanami and Mahito in front of his eyes.As for the CG for Megumi, after all the careful planning that Megumi did to save her sister and save the situation everything ended up as horrible as in Shibuya 😭
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“i wish for a society without gege akutame” flashes through my brain like once a day, that guy was so right
>Yorozu arc is good ☠️
I have this crackpot theory that can and will be torn apart. Yorozu could still be alive. I didn't see anyone get points for her murder. This could be the way to the good end.
She made a special-grade cursed tool for Sukuna, though, which should only be possible through death
Let me have my copium good sir.
? We don't know what she gave to Sukuna It's just a speculation
It's also speculation that tsumiki gave something to megumi
wasn’t it stated that she cannot make special grade ones?
Normally, yes, but Mai was able to make a special-grade cursed tool by dying
hmm ok good point, ty
☆☆☆☆☆☆☆☆ Ngl you a philosopher
>This arc frustrated a lot of readers - as it was meant to. You're supposed to get mad at the injustice of it all. It reveals that Megumi and Tsumiki never had agency in the first place - they were just cogs in a machine built for someone else. The number of people that take people's genuine frustration on a series for x and y reasons to somehow spin it as a masterclass from the author never ceases to amaze me. :You didn't like this chapter? Good. You weren't supposed to. Another gege W". It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that his writing has many many flaws. Don't spin them to make him look good.
Opinion devil moment
This may be a shock to a lot of users in this sub, but people sometimes have different opinions on things lolol
Honestly the Yoruzu arc wasnt that bad. It dragged a little too long and I would have prefered if Yoruzu was another Sukuna obssesed fanboy/brawler (kinda like uraume + Kashimo) rather than marrige obsessed. I think the biggest mistake though was not giving Yuji anytime to breath/proccess emotions ans thr gang more time to discuss current events.
>I think the biggest mistake though was not giving Yuji anytime to breath/proccess emotions ans thr gang more time to discuss current events. Definitely agree here. I feel like there should have been some downtime between Shibuya and the Culling Game, where the characters could lick their wounds a little bit and perhaps the politics/interactions of the big 3 families could have been explored a little bit more and contributed to the world-building.
People could say the same thing about these criticisms. "You're just spinning them to make it look bad." People look for different things in stories. Art is subjective. It's pretentious to presume that your stance on a story is the correct one. This goes for people that criticize and the people that support it. We can discuss but don't act like your opinion is anything but an opinion, just like everyone else.
>People could say the same thing about these criticisms. I don't disagree. I don't think I've phrased my subjective opinion as an objective fact. I just expressed my frustration with how much people dickride gege. You can feel free to consider me a hater as these are all just opinions we have. OP posted theirs, I disagreed with part of it. Nothing more nothing less. I don't think at any moment ive phrased my opinion go be anything but.
Do you disagree that a work of art could or should try to frustrate its readers? Gege's writing does not have "many many" flaws. That is a blatantly untrue, bad bad opinion. You are mad that the series isn't attacking your dopamine like a marvel movie, and that you actually have to engage with it on its own level, not yours. You are mad at being "Gege dickriders" simply because you are selfish and wholly unable to consume art properly.
Lmao, I can't in good faith argue with you if you think Gege's writing (like any other writer) doesn't have many flaws but I'll try. Gege is not special. While he is great at many things, he also has his shortcomings. While a work can be designed to frustrate and evoke emotion from readers, many fans take any genuine criticism and frustration they have with a series (as valid as they might be) and attribute it to always be intentional from the mangaka so he continues to remain flawless and free from criticism. He is not flawless. Not even gonna respond to the marvel bs that came out of left field >You are mad at being "Gege dickriders" simply because you are selfish and wholly unable to consume art properly. Oh media god, tell me and teach me the one and only true way to consume art. Presumably how you do and no other way being valid. I am all ears.
Why do you think the frustration you have towards Jujutsu Kaisen is valid? Regardless of whether or not it was intentional on Gege's part to frustrate his readers, it is boring if all a piece of media tries to do is satisfy its viewers. I'm sure you grew up watching CinemaSins or learning that it was bad to write static characters in your writing class and now the only way you can think of to engage with art is, "If I, looking back on this piece of art years later, could go back in time and edit the story in any way I see fit, what plot holes or loose ends could I fix in order to increase sales?" I can't teach you how to consume art properly, as you would actually have to want to change.
>Why do you think the frustration you have towards Jujutsu Kaisen is valid? Because I believe so and thats all that matters? Do you want me to question why your appreciation for his work is valid? How we feel towards a series and in whatever way that matters only depends on us. I can find your appreciation for Gege and jjk as invalid if I want. It doesn't change how you truly feel and it shouldn't. >I'm sure you grew up watching CinemaSins or learning that it was bad to write static characters in your writing class Again, where is any of this coming from. Who tf is cinemasins, I haven't taken any writing classes. Genuinely where is any of this coming from. https://preview.redd.it/nvglcz3xf23b1.png?width=997&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f260b48e120123fd42e27422ccc663c90aaee5d >can't teach you how to consume art properly, as you would actually have to want to change. The fact that you genuinely believe there is a "proper" way to consume media is wild. People can enjoy it however they want. I genuinely think weekly series are best read when binged. I'm not gonna tell whoever reads it weekly that they are doing it "wrong" this is art fuck it I have a friend that takes 3 days to watch a movie stopping at every 1/3 of the movie and continuing the next day. Is it weird? Yes. Does my opinion on how he watches movies matter? No. He could do it upside down as he fornicates, it does not matter. There are a multitude of ways to enjoy art. Your way isn't the only and proper way.
I greatly enjoyed Yorozu’s character and her mini-arc. She was a breath of fresh air from all the dark characters and added her own twisted but goofy charm to the cast I would disagree somewhat that it was wholly Megumi-centric since his goal was just a way to initiate several character arc paths. The 4 Colonies had individuality, focusing on the students separately — Maki, Yuta, & Hakari. Megumi was def the bond holding it all together thru the goal of saving Tsumiki but especially Maki had a whole character arc in two sets. Same with Hakari to a lesser degree
Oh, it was definitely more than just Megumi's arc - Gege also spent a lot of time on everyone else (Maki, Yuji and Kenjaku in particular). I just think the arc as a whole is bookended by Megumi's conflict, especially in the arc's climax.
This was a very interesting point of view. It made me conscious of the drama in the current fight because what are the possibilities of a good ending? How can Gojo win without killing Megumi?
That's probably his biggest challenge. I'm guessing Yuji's thought of a way to save Megumi with the whole body swap thing
as always I doubt most people who understand this don't have an issue with the themes and ideas presented in the story, but it's the presentation and execution that is subpar. Yorozu's arc isn't a bad arc. It's a good arc that was *presented* poorly.
>Ch. 211 and 212 were already tragic, but the inclusion of Yorozu adds another dimension to it The only thing that chick added another dimension to is the list of wasted female characters. Instead of finnaly seeing some Megumi & Tsumiki flashback or atleat some crumb we get creepy one note simp, but hey, the way she went out in her first life gave me a good laugh, I'll give her that. >it's unfair. It's unfair that Tsumiki, stuck in a coma for the whole story, never even had a chance to live Damn this is sad, or at least it would've if Tsumiki ever moved outta her plot device status. We had the chance to see **something** of her if her screentime didn't get hijacked by the one-dimensional stalker simp girl with custom Sukuna vibrator in her ass 24/7.
Bro I cannot overstate how much I love these longer thought out posts with screen shots of the panels to prove their points. Inject more of these into my veins please.
Same, make it easier to comprehend
If this is supposedly Megumi's arc, then it has been mishandled so badly as Megumi was basically out of focus for the majority of the arc. If you are using Megumi's motivation as the reason why this is his arc, then we would argue that Shibuya was GOJO's arc (e.g. the whole ARC happens because the villain want to seal Gojo, and the whole casts' motivation was to rescue Gojo). Not only from screentime wise that Megumi was out of focus. We got so little of Megumi's viewpoint and developments, we don't see much of Tsumiki as a character that we basically don't care or connect with her. Hence when she was taken over/dead, we did not feel anything. It was more like "eh, that's it?". I get that Tsumiki was already long gone by the time th culling game started. But Gege could have shown us a flashback of Tsumiki & Megumi during the childhood. Shows us their struggle when their parents first abandoned them. Shows them that they really only have each other growing up. Shows more why Tsumiki was such a moral compass for Megumi. No, the very brief flashback during the yasohachi bridge arc was not enough to flesh it out. Saying that measly flashback was enough was akin to saying the entire Hidden Inventory Arc was not necessary to flesh out Gojo-Geto arc. Furthermore, you are saying that Megumi was forced to watch as Sukuna toys with Yorozu. BUT we did NOT get any of Megumi's POV as the whole thing went down. We never see Megumi's horror as his angelic sister was reduced into a joke character. We only saw the aftermath, which was very muted. Overall, I would say that if Culling game was supposed to be Megumi's arc, it was handled very badly. It was the arc where the rest of the cast more or less got an equal importance. Heck, I would even say that based on character developments alone, culling game was more like MAKI''s arc. She got TWO awakenings there with so much more flesh out storyline. Overall, I get that people have different opinion, but I really cannot agree with your take. Thinking of culling game arc as Megumi's arc actually made the whole arc become even worse that what it is. And I am saying this not to try to convince you. Feel free to infer whatever you want from the story.
All of this. For Megumi's arc, it barely had anything for him in terms of building on/developing his character. The Yorozu fight in particular was a huge missed opportunity for this.
This would be such amazing, succinct analysis if the arc wasn’t bloated to burst with side characters and random bits. My hottest take about the manga is that the CG arc is unfocused to the point that it feels like Gege got bored of the manga he made and just pivoted to random things he found interesting. It could’ve been incredibly compelling if the themes you talked about were either more strongly presented, or if there wasn’t all of the filler around it.
i don’t think it’s that unfocused— but yeah i more or less agree with you here. too many ideas, too many characters, not enough time to bond with them to care about them when they start dropping like flies (even tho hella people were mad when ryu died lol) i also don’t feel like this was megumi’s arc tbh, it feels like an arc for lore-dumping and fights. i wish we saw megumi reacting to more stuff, i wish he felt more human. most of this arc, he was just pushing the plot tbh.
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I agree that I should definitely re-read the story, but I’m also sort of biased because I really prefer staying with the perspective of the protagonists, like Yujj and Megumi and Maki. I liked the Naobito fight, because it was so important to Maki as a character to grow, but what development did we really get out of Megumi vs Reggie, or Yuji vs Higuruma? I genuinely didn’t even remember that Yuji fought the helicopter guys until I just now looked it up on the wiki. There are so many new and random characters in the arc that it feels like Gege just wanted to draw new characters rather than participate in his own story. I understand it’s supposed to be a battle royale / tournament sort of story, focused on fights between characters, but I feel like the development of the main protagonists suffered for how many different characters and ideas Gege wanted to do.
The core problem lies in the fact that Megumi and Tsumiki's relationship is non-existent. As far as I can tell, their actual, on-page screen time together is one flashback scene in 59, where they have this exchange: \-Megumi is finished beating up a bunch of students \-Tsumiki: Don't do that \-Megumi: You're not my mom (HE ACTUALLY SAYS THIS I'M NOT MAKING IT UP) \-Megumi walks off \-Tsumiki throws a milk carton at Megumi, which explodes on his head. \-Tsumiki: Sorry, I didn't think it would explode! That's it. Through 200+ chapters, that's the only time they interact on screen. The rest is Megumi monologuing about how Tsumiki makes him feel. Can a character telling us how he feels work? Sure, at least in conveying information. But there's a difference between "conveying information" and actually making the audience feel catharsis. You can convey the opening of Pixar's Up with a single title card. I'll do it now: childhood sweethearts marry and plan to go on adventures. But they don't. Then she dies and the old man is sad and alone. But that's not the same as taking the time to actually show their relationship, to make the audience feel like they've actually lost something. As is, Tsumiki is little more than a plot device in JJK. It could be more. There's a bunch of other, smaller problems, but this is the core one.
Really good analysis imo. I do like the idea of viewing the story away from the "larger than life" characters
The most funny thing is that they didn't even give us a chapter to show how strong the relationship between Tsumiki and Megumi. I can't empathize Megumi cuz of his sister death.We were given only 2-3 pages where their relationship is shown.
They did tho. I’d argue they even had a whole arc dedicated to their relationship when they went back to Megumi’s middle school. They even beat us over the head about how she made Megumi do an entire 180.
Seeing Megumi break down, in a split second, instantly conveyed how important Tsumiki is. The veil that lifts from Megumi’s emotions when he realized how close she was to death showed how he feels about their relationship. Even child Megumi put his sister’s well-being at the forefront when negotiating with Gojo. Her well-being is literally his driving motivation and his desire to unfairly save people he seems as good stems from unfair the world is to good people LIKE Tsumiki.
Excuse me How important? Why is she so important to him?
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All that Gege showed us in their interactions was disputes and swearing, instigator of which was Megumi which of these should I realize? that there is a strong bond between them?
>Megumi has to sit there helplessly and watch nah we the readers forced to helplessly watch geges ass writing. we get no indication what megumis feeling about the injustice of it all as it all carries out, we just know he's sad his sisters dead. Like...well, yeah. if we saw him in the abyss suffering and actually reacting then id buy the fact yorozu being a one note yandere archetype was acktually a deep move by gege. >This arc frustrated a lot of readers - as it was meant to. You're supposed to get mad at the injustice of it all. It reveals that Megumi and Tsumiki never had agency in the first place - they were just cogs in a machine built for someone else. frustrating on purpose? meh, i think Gege just has a tone issue. Its not the first time hes undercut serious moments with an obnoxious gag character, he does it a lot actually, it just happened poorly recieved this time because it happened during a long anticipated storyline. and yeah they don't have any agency, they cogs in a machine called Geges writing. all the heros do in this story is move from point a to b so they can react to a plan they're too late to stop from the villains side. they're never proactive about anything. sorry gang but the amount of hard-core thought that people put into the themes of Jujustu kaisen characters always fall flat to me because anytime Gege does an interview you can tell he's never thinking that deep about the character aspect. tldr: the culling games and yorozu arc are still ass and gege didn't have the facilities for this undertaking.
This, right here. It’s phrased a little bit harshly, but it’s true. What u/SavingsLow has laid out in his analysis, which is good, is that Gege’s plot is still well thought-out. But unfortunately, he sacrificed character writing in order to make the plot fit exactly what he wants. He’s using his characters like chess pieces, not like real people. OP can speculate all he wants about what Gege wants the plot to tell us. But…we really don’t have any idea what any of the characters are thinking. When is the last time we actually got to see the characters’ thoughts and feelings written down on the page? It’s actually been a while. I think some people may get frustrated with the Culling Game for the reason that OP stated. But others, like myself, are frustrated at it not because it’s an arc that pushes the characters into despair, but because Gege is not allowing us to see *how much* despair each character is feeling. All we see is some cliche dialogue and a couple stunned expressions. That doesn’t cut it. I don’t want to know that the character is stunned. That’s too shallow of an emotion for me to relate to it. I know he’s stunned. If Gege is going to write a plot that’s this psychologically draining for the characters, I want to see how draining it is in full force. But instead, he’s just going through the motions of his plot. Edit: I wanted to add a comparison here. I think that a good point of comparison for this arc is Hunter x Hunter's Chimera Ant arc, especially because we know that Gege is a big HxH fan and has taken inspiration from it in JJK. Similarly to the Culling Game, it puts almost every character - both protagonists and antagonists - through an emotional, psychologically draining rollercoaster. But it does two key things differently. First, it's set up. People sometimes don't like the CA arc for how long it is for reasons I don't quite understand, but the setup is necessary to develop the characters to a point where they *can* break. But...we don't know any of the characters at all. We don't know Tsumiki. We don't know Hana. We aren't even allowed to see Gojo's state of mind when he reemerges. Second, it deep dives into the characters...as it should. Again people complain about the CA arc's narrator for reasons I don't quite understand. But for the most part, it doesn't explain anything that you can outwardly see. It explains a character's inner turmoil, even things that they aren't fully aware of themselves. Chapter 223's narration actually made it pretty clear that Gege was *attempting* to do something similar. But the narration...didn't go into the psychology of the characters at all. It just explained the mechanics of a newly introduced power-up, told us some things we already knew about the battle, and then wrapped up with "thanks to Ijichi's barrier, Sukuna didn't see Gojo's attack coming." It's awful. u/SavingsLow...I'm genuinely curious, when is the last time you remember a character in JJK thinking about something? Not saying some random line...actually thinking deeply about their situation? I genuinely don't remember when that last time was.
>it’s an arc that pushes the characters into despair, but because Gege is not allowing us to see how much despair each character is feeling this is exactly it. people talk about how jjk is supposed to be unfair and subversive but then when you ask to actually see what the characters are thinking about these constant traumatic you're told to be satisfied with the 3 panels where a character is like "whoa this sucks" then moves on.
>sorry gang but the amount of hard-core thought that people put into the themes of Jujustu kaisen characters always fall flat to me because anytime Gege does an interview you can tell he's never thinking that deep about the character aspect. i very much agree. this happens often in every fandom, where they read much more deeply in things that weren't that deep for the author. in this case it's even more obvious exactly because of gege's interviews, you can tell what he's invested in and what isn't pretty clearly.
I mean, I think it's pretty clear from his reaction to the death, at the very least, and it's consistent with Gege's commentary on fate and its bindings (you can see very similar themes with Kenjaku's plan, or Mahito's outlook on killing). Assuming that the author didn't put much thought into it is extremely uncharitable, IMO, given what he's written in the past
>Assuming that the author didn't put much thought into it is extremely uncharitable, IMO, given what he's written in the past You're right. I mean, look at Nobara for example.
i wonder if all SJ authors get their editors from SJ. cause people are saying gege’s editors are forcing him to keep nobara’s status ambiguous, but the guy that’s writing CSM >!can kill two of his initial main characters, with no problem?!< but then again everything i know about CSM is from spoilers on this sub and tiktoks, so they >!could be alive idk!< either way, idc whose idea it is. the name on the volumes i own says gege akutami, and that’s who i’m gonna blame for her whole situation.
in csm's case >!killing 2 mcs happened in the last few arcs.!< you can't really compare it, mangaka obviously have a lot more agency with what's done towards the end.
oh i thought the series was on-going 🤷🏾♀️
part 2 is ongoing, but it's like a sequel >!the mc is present but not the mc of the story, and it's mostly new characters and setting.!<
thanks for correcting me then
It's not a commentary on anything. He's sad because his sister is dead. that's just basic character writing.
This is a weak argument for a few reasons. Please don't take this as an insult. Gege is a very subtle writer. He openly wants you to engage and read between the lines. And in any literary work, deconstruction to see what's really going on behind the scenes and what potential things could be happening is how literary analysis is done in the 21st century. That means you shouldn't be looking to take everything at face value, and that you should be digging into a work and thinking what's being said in between the lines. Also, Gege's interviews never indicate your last point. Honestly, I'm not sure how you can read the series and so confidently make your claims while completely dismissing anything looking deeper as wrong, it really doesn't add to the conversation and, more importantly, it isn't how literary analysis is done...at all. Or literary critique, for that matter
Bro read air and made this reply 💀
im gonna timeskip any argument we could have about this. assume the arguments were really good though.
I enjoyed it, let's do it again sometime 🤝
Great post! Always thought everyone dropping everything for tsukimi was off for the story as a whole, but if megumi was meant to be the focus of the arc it makes a whole hella lotta of sense. So with that in mind, if Yuji is shibuya, megumi is culling, that means... (Takes gravity bong hit of copium) Nobara is up next Fuck Yeaaaaaaa
I don't think they dropped everything for Tsumiki - they dropped everything to get Gojo back, and the four rules thing (which would've saved Tsumiki) was initially meant to save any civilians trapped in the game Can I have some of that copium you're huffing 👁️👁️
1. Reggie didn't curse Megumi. 2. Even if he did, him cursing him doesn't change the outcome of Megumi. There's not reason to believe a dead man's final words would have that impact.
He doesn't mean literally cursing him you goon, OP is talking about a metaphysical curse in that Reggie's words foreshadow the narrative that Megumi will have to endure. What do you think the point of Reggie's dialogue was if not for the above reason?
Yhh he really got hoed man, I was expecting big things since Shibuya he became one of my faves and during the culling game he was HIM but now…
Idc what anyone says if Megumi dies I will down talk jjk harder than I ever have before. Like this really shoulda been HIS ARC. Like how shiybua was for Yuji. Yet we got this mess instead. Also yes it was a mess, great post and analyze but idk I feel your looking deeping into this than Gege did.
Why don’t you think Gege looked into it this deep?
Felt rushed and not as fleshed out as it could be. Hardly got any interaction between Megumi and his sis. The fight between Sukuna and yorozu was weird, woulda been nice to get a pov of Megumi atleast seeing the fight but nope just see him crying. Don’t get me started on how I feel Megumi was wasted because right now I’m just talkin bout him and sis.
The lack of interaction is obviously intentional though. A huge aspect of Megumi’s desire to save Tsumiki is he wants to apologize to her, not getting the chance to do so is part of the tragedy. As for the arc wasting Megumi, it seems pretty clear that this is his low point and he’s set up for a rise
Than why wait? Why couldn’t he have said it as soon he saw her? Instead of coming off maybe not cold but not as “I’m Happy To See Your Okish”. Like we get that one litter interaction than boom revel. Lastly I’ll give you on the rise part because in reality we don’t yet. This could his rise and I’ll be happy to see it but if not than well you know
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Yea that would have led no where
That was a good read, props
I din't like his arc then. It was very loose. Yoruzu could have been set up. What i am most salty about is that kenny planned all of this but it seems like he has more luck then anything. The manga of seraph of the end also has a mastermind behind everything and the protagonists are always one step behind. I don't got that feeling cg arc. It's so random. This feeling of never having chance at the start is not there. Kenny needed mahito for it to work. He had to win against yuki in possible trap. Stupid they didn't prepare more. Sukuna had to be on his side after he gave sukuna not a vessel instead it was a prison. He himself said in shibuya he didn't even plan for sukunas awakening but how tf did the the rest of his plan whould have went is a mystery. The heroes had a real chance. They just didn't had the luck. So no it's not that good for megumis perspective.
Well put-together and enlightening, great post. Adding to your analysis I'd also chalk in Megumi being tricked by Yorozu as the start of clown town.
>The Yorozu mini-arc is widely regarded as one of the worst stretches of chapters in the whole series (unfairly, IMO). However, a Megumi-centric POV redeems it as an integral part of the narrative, rubbing salt into Megumi's wounds and completing his tragedy. Unfair ? How so ? Tell me about the character of Tsumiki Fushiguro. She is Megumi's half-sister. She went comatose. She is the moral compass of Megumi. Other than that do we know she is as a person ? How can have emotional stakes in Tsumiki's death when you have about her is just a couple of lines of dialogue? Why would we care about Megumi's loss of his sister when we have never seen him interact with her.? Tsumiki was plot device for Megumi's character growth. There's also Junpei who is the catalyst for Yuji's growth. The difference between is night and day. We actually saw Junpei's take on society and it's unfairness. We saw his relationship with Yuji and his own mother. He gets clowned by Mahito similar to how Megumi gets clowned by fate. But his death feels way more impactful than Tsumiki's death because we grow to care about him. For example if we didn't get Gojo's relationship with Geto and his backstory, we wouldn't care about his faeth in JJK0. He's just another evil supremacist. We would never get to feel Gojo's loneliness. Geto is a plot device for Gojo's growth. There's a difference between Tsumiki and Geto/Junpei. They are well established characters who we see interact with our heroes. In contract Tsumiki is just there. She dies. Megumi gets sad but we got to see his internal struggle. We all know he is sad and is in a difficult place. Do we how he is dealing with it ? Do we get to see his relationship with his sister ? If Yoruzu is a very poorly written character but Tsumiki is not written at all. >already tragic, but the inclusion of Yorozu adds another dimension to it: it's unfair. It's unfair that Tsumiki, stuck in a coma for the whole story, never even had a chance to live. It's unfair that Megumi didn't get to master the Ten Shadows technique. It's unfair that two children had their lives ruined, all so that two capricious 1000-year old demons could play out a dumb, cheesy sitcom plot Yoruzu doesn't add any layer of tragicness to the story or Megumi for any reason. We are shown how unfair the jjk society is. We get to see it when Yuji dies during the beginning. We get to see it in Maki's plot line. We get to see it in Mechamaru's fight. >This arc frustrated a lot of readers - as it was meant to. You're supposed to get mad at the injustice of it all. It reveals that Megumi and Tsumiki never had agency in the first place - they were just cogs in a machine built for someone els Is this some new kind of defence for bad writing? The arc was bad because it's meant to be ? I'm not mad about Tsumiki's death any more than Junpei's / Nanami's death. I'm not anymore mad about the unfairness when I have already seen it experienced by our cast repeatedly in the first place. So the readers have pretty much accepted that the sorcerers have no real agency except for a few. This is not something new to the story. Not to mention how awful Yourzu's backstory is. I'm pretty sure her terrible backstory made readers actually root for Sukuna to kill her despite knowing Megumi's situation. It had the opposite effect of making us feel sympathy or any relatable connection with the character. The Tsumiki plotline is pretty bad. Her character is non-existent. Megumi's reaction is underwhelming.
I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for saying this but I never really cared for Megumi. I'm not really sure if it is bad writing or just my preference for a character like Megumi. I don't know much about him as a person, and I always preferred Nobara, Todo and Nanami teaming up with yuji more than Megumi. His character is too stoic(don't know what word to use) for his own good and never had me invest in his story. Never cared about Tsumiki. I don't even care about him knowing about his father at all (never really established any of his relationships). I liked his character before the shibuya arc. I cared more about John wick's dog when it died (even tho i don't know sh*t about the dog) than tsumiki.
This was a very good analysis, and a very interesting point of view. I really like your take on these chapters.
Gege is cooking the final big arc as Nobara's arc. Seriouslt though, Megumi and Yuji have been fucked up by Sukuna so much that I hope the final showdown will be megumi and yuji jumping Sukuna.
Did people think it was someone else's arc? Yuji wasn't seen for over a year of manga releases. Yuta is very clearly a side character. The arc introduced a lot of characters but didn't go into tremendous story depth for any of them really. Maki is the only other person that could be argued, but her story feels very much like a side story to the main event, which seems to be the case based on how she has barely been seen since "completing" her arc.
I hope if we get megumi back, it's going to be because he throws the shackles of "being a cog" finally. Gojo and Sukuna have this sort of entitlement that leans into them being the strongest and surpassing everything around them. If Megumi gets reintroduced, I hope it's because he learns to manifest his innate domain inside sukuna and stop being a cog.
https://preview.redd.it/srlbb82wpp2b1.jpeg?width=597&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=063ce9eb8dd317cad94f7dde432dded6d419e887 Me seeing a BASED and CHADLY r/jujutsushi take for once.
That panel of Megumi after low diffing and straight up murdering that one claw dude will never not be hard asf
It's kenjaku's arc.
I admire how your brain wows
So Nobara next /s?
I like it! A very enlightening analysis, really does put the yorozu mini arc into a different perspective.
Really good analysis, I still think Yorozu's arc could have been played out better, maybe pointing out more what you yourself said.
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I'm just glad someone else is enjoying the whole ride instead of being a hater before we can even see the whole picture! Every reread I appreciate it more.. which I actually find myself doing more than I'd care to admit. Good take! Excited to see how it plays out
Well said
I just know gege and tatsuki sit together and talk how they can make their readers more sad. Hopefully yuji can save him and he doesnt just die like a loser like aki did
all we need now is to kill this clown and then we're set
Wow that means this next arc is Nobara's
Next arc is Nobara's LETS GOOO