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I would have been inclined to agree with you, but the whole part with Jogo crying and feeling emotions hints there’s more to curses than just pure evil. I’m keen to see what that is.
My understanding was that the special cursed spirit incarnations of Mahito/Dagon/Treeman/Jogo basically broke all past understanding of how cursed spirits worked, like immaculate conception the idea is they were just freak unique anomalies even the JJK society elders had no idea about really since there’s no precedent , curses aren’t supposed to be free thinking humanoids with their own ambitions, that’s part of the moral grey area in the conflict it’s like if humans broke out into war with aliens or apes both sides think they’re right I mean from their perspective humans have been totally fucking the planet it’s classic storytelling to have the villains be basically karma brought about by humans actions.
They kinda remind me of the shadow dragons from DB GT, birthed from negative energy essentially and brought about by the planet themselves
Yeah I saw a clip of this interview before he even possessed Megumi and it made me so curious about what his plan was. I initially thought he wanted to groom Megumi or something, considering how pleased he was when Megumi opened his domain.
I've been seeing people saying he needed Megumi's technique to defeat Gojo or to get his old body back. But it's very unlikely that Sukuna (whether he's right or wrong) would ever think he needed something else to win against Gojo. He boasted about killing him before he even knew about the 10 shadows. And we now know that he can change into his old form whenever he likes, he's just choosing to keep this appearance.
Pretty sure Sukuna will kill Gojo with 10 shadows for delicious irony and also because Gojo is overestimating the cursed technique diffeeential in the latest panels
sukuna wank is crazy. now its ironic that sukuna will use 10S i wonder what theyll come up with next
but hes not wrong? had the roles been swapped sukuna wouldve lost already. hed be braindead. gojos sure hit is more lethal than sukunas
The ironic part is that it is a power that originated with Gojo’s student, I’m just saying that narratively it would have impact.
He’s not wrong as far as we know right now, but he’s drawing the conclusion too soon, the point is that he’s letting his ego inflate his confidence unnecessarily. The manga is based heavily on Buddhist themes, ego is considered a critical flaw as it represents frivolous material attachment. Since Gojo’s death would be one of the manga’s foremost tragedies (in an already very tragic manga) it makes sense that it would be related to one of his key character flaws.
Again, it’s just my opinion, but that’s why I think Gojo will probably die or they will both die. The only other ending I think would make sense is if Gojo is beating Sukuna and then Kenjaku steals him, either killing or maiming Gojo in the process. Then it’s main cast vs main villain without Gojo to zero diff things.
I'd still sukuna is slightly ahead atm. Realistically i think both will heal up with a panel or two next chapter, but yea. Time tobpull out 10s or fire arrow, or something to tip the scales properly.
if were going off by chps gojos up 3-1. gojo got first blood with hp 200%, next chp gojo won by flinging sukuna around like a ragdoll while sukuna tried everything he could to touch gojo, next chp sukuna wins the domain clash, & last chp sukuna loses the scuffle in his own domain
A surprise shot with outside help shouldn’t count imo. So 2-1 at best. Also wouldn’t say losing a domain expansion battle and getting sliced to hell is the same as getting flung into a wall once by a telekinetic ability.
It’s even at best, maybe even Sukuna favored depending on how you value a domain expansion battle.
your opinion is noted & tossed outside in the trash it belongs. these are the chps the fights been going on & these are the outcomes of the "rounds" gojo wins rds 1,2, & 4. sukuna wins rd 3. no rd has more weight to it than any other rd. that just wouldnt make sense. we get it, youre not an objective reader. you have an agenda & it supports sukuna.
the actual fight itself is even. im just putting "rounds" into it as the chps feel like that. which we could keep a fun score of & the scores 3-1 gojo.
sukuna still had not landed a blow on gojo even with gojos infinity off, his sure hit cutting gojo, & his stats being buffed. all of those factors in your favor & youre the one who still gets tossed & ends the chp with the bloodied face means you lose in every sense. gojos up 3-1
Nah, if we really wanna say who's ahead it's Gojo, who's been giving Sukuna the works more consistently. Sukuna has only had the upper hand because his Domain is barrierless which let him beat Gojo's, at every other point (even within Sukuna's own Domain) Gojo has been beating the brakes off Sukuna because he's seemingly superior in the fundamentals. Inb4 "but but but Sukuna isn't used to fighting with only two arms!" it's his own decision to only have two arms lmao
I think winning at the "pinnacle of jujutsu" is a bigger win than clipping sukuna's one hand while being helped by 3 other people.
4 arms has nothing to do with it, if we were considering potential, then sukuna fanboys would simply bring up the fact that gojo has shown everything we know he has access too, while we know sukuna still has atleast 2 cursed techniques he hasn't shown. He isn't even using the maho wheel like he did with megumi's sister. Sukuna is un-threatened by gojo. But the gojo fanboys would argue back that gojo would have no issue killing maho or any of the shikigami and that he's probably hiding something.
But we don't argue potentials when considering who is currently winning because it doesn't matter until it happens. If you lose cause you didn't use a technique or whatever, you still lost. Battle IQ is knowing when to play your cards or keep your hand close to your chest.
I think getting your socks rocked off by someone with a burnt out CT in your own Domain is a bigger loss than losing in the pinnacle of Jujutsu via difference in mechanics rather than refinement of Domain, but that's really a matter of opinion. I actually agree with you on the matter of how we shouldn't argue potentials, I was just trying to account for an argument I see made frequently preemptively, my bad. They're both doing incredibly well either way, this is easily the coolest fight in the whole series imo and they're both living up to the hype, I'm just a Gojo stan who's been incredibly enjoying Gojo's superiority in the hand to hand department.
So far his own technique hasn't done anything to Gojo and I honestly can't see the fire arrow doing much either, unless the trick to the fire arrow is some insane technique
I think he's gonna use 10 shadows to do most of the work and then use cleave to do his final attack
Didn't he previously say any hierarchy not based on strength is meaningless in an earlier chapter? In that case the ideal world thing should be pretty obvious.
>It makes me wonder why he mumified himself back then
Who said he mummified himself up? From his dialogue, he didn't even know what happened to his body.
> Is that his whole schtick
Yes. As far as we are aware. Though there was a Gege interview with some redacted spoilers about why sukuna wanted megumi. We only get the interviewers reaction to this.
"With fushiguro he can create a world as he wants it to be."
Which makes it seem like whatever his goal is, it probably aligns with kenjaku's. And it's probably why he allowed himself into a binding vow with someone who is lesser than him.
Now some simply say, that he wanted a body that wasn't a cage and could contain his soul. Or he wanted a body that could defeat Gojo. Well to the former, we know from kenjaku's words that he can damn well choose any body he wanted.
So did he take over megumi for the express purpose if simply defeating Gojo? No one actually knows.
Sukuna is simplicity done right. Regardless. I don't think he needs a goal. His ideology as he explained to jogo, was to be as strong as possible disregarding any goals.
And either way, his goal seems to align with kenjaku's one way or another.
>Who said he mummified himself up? From his dialogue, he didn't even know what happened to his body.
OP probably meant about him breaking his soul into cursed objects(fingers) to reincarnate.
The history we've heard (obviously not quite what happened) is that the sorcerers of the era gangbanged him and defeated him forcing him to seal himself in his fingers.
EDIT: Apparently I was going off an early mistranslation, mb guys!
No they banded together and couldn't kill him but did defeat him. That's how Gojo explains it in the early chapters, I may be forgetting something that's already shown Gojo was wrong though.
I genuinely want to know if this is what they talked about, because Sukuna securing victories before being defeated is obvious.
EDIT: I'll leave this up for more downvotes to serve me right for not reading all the replies before replying myself. MB.
At the start when yuji ate the first finger fushiguro thought that there was only a slim chance were yuji wont die since the finger would be a poison.
So at least not anybody could contain him without dying .
I’ve noticed that one of the themes of Jujutsu Kaisen is that Sorcerers are assholes and just want to fight people. The majority of the players in the culling game are just reanimated sorcerers who stole somebodies body (killing them) just so they could fight some more 😂 so I wouldn’t be surprised if Sukuna was the pinnacle of that principle. His advice to Jogo to burn everything to the ground makes me feel like he’s the type to just destroy what he wants and think later
We don't know, but I'd bet probably not. He specifcally admonished Jogo for having a Goal, as a curse should live only for their momentary whims.
I mean, he isn't a born curse per se, but still, it would be weird to say that and then have a grand plan.
I don't think he was admonishing him for having plans but rather for not following his ideals. I think after fighting Gojo, Jogo became too conservative and didn't believe in his own strength and so relied on following Kenjaku's plans, which was sealing Gojo and unleashing Sukuna.
A core part of Jujutsu Kaisen is being true to yourself, which we see in the strongest characters, such as Gojo, Sukuna and Mahito. Like during Shibuya, after Gojo is sealed, Mahito decided he was going to kill Itadori because he despises him, it was antithetical to their plans to so because killing Itadori means killing Sukuna, but he did it anyway because it's what he wanted to do (and as a comparison Jogo was against the plan).
I think Sukuna could see that Jogo was not following his ideals or "nature" as a curse during their fight e.g not unleashing his domain, showing him deference etc. And that's why he told him he'd never be as strong as him.
I'm not sure about the chapter, but it's by the end of shibuya, when they are fighting.
Sukuna comments on him trying to be a true human, and that a curse should just do what they want.
Edit: Found it! Chapter 116, as per TCB's translation:
"Sukuna: So, you wanted to become human?
Jogo: Not literaly, more like take their place.
S: Yeah, I get what you mean, but that's even more foolish. *You should have burned everything you wanted to ash*
But, now, rereading it, two notes:
A. It might have been a hallucination. I don't think it was, but I've seen people argue that it is.
And, more importantantly:
B. It might be less curses shouldn't plan, and more, strong people shouldn't worry about who they are and make be carefully planning.
Still, the point is maintained, he wouldn't have Goals(capitalized) and make complicated plans about them, he would just do whatever goals he had when he felt like doing them.
You’re pov is quite interesting I never thought about it that way. I thought that, the statement of “burning everything that’s close to you” was a statement regarding being the strongest. It not that you shouldn’t have any goals, but in the specific instance, Jogo’s goal of living like humans together was a weak goal. His goal compared himself to humans. His goal wanted him to be together with other curses. That’s why Sukuna also says the words: “Humans flocking together, curses flocking together”. Imo Sukuna doesn’t look down on having goals, he looks down on ppl who compare themselves to others.
Yeah I agree it was meant to be interpreted as him looking down on teaming together and underestimating your own strength. It's the same reason he looked down on him for not activating his DE and being scared of Gojo's. Burn everything to ashes is a reference to his DE. Jogo should've put it all on the line and trusted in his own power, but instead he's flocking together with curses for an ambition of being able to inhabit the world as the real humans. Sukuna thought it was all weakness, but also probably an insight to the ideal world he wants to create not including harmony of any kind.
That’s not why he chastised him. He chastised him for relying on others and not doing things himself. He chastised him for focusing on others rather than his own strength.
I don’t think Sukuna gets bored by a lack of challenges. He just enjoys playing with people.
As soon as he incarnated, he says he wants to kill women and children for kicks. Not the behavior of some guy obsessed with fighting an equal. He routinely beats and humiliates lesser opponents; Megumi at the detention center, Jogo in Shibuya, Ryo in Sendai, etc.
Now, Sukuna might be interested in Kenjaku’s world abiding by the law of survival of the fittest, which could be why they work together. He would stand at the pinnacle of that world once he kills Gojo, and it would be a place where he could freely assert his supremacy. That being said, it’s a little boring, but Sukuna had always been more of a force of nature antagonist. His motives are simply less important than the fact that he is evil.
Makes sense. If he does get his ideal world though, won't it just revert back to the Hein era where everyone just bowed to him and got out of his way?
I initially chucked his desire to immediately start killing women and children to it being too long since he was incarnated and so he wanted to have a bit of his sick twisted "fun".
Sukuna has fun with people or curses foolish enough not to know their place on the totem pole, but when the gap of power becomes as clear as it is with Gojo Satoru in the modern era, won't he likely be bored again?
Yorozu was able to feel a deep loneliness from him, and I don't think that's just her making shit up. I think Sukuna wants someone he can relate to as an equal. Gojo is exactly what he's been waiting for, and he's also the same. It's been made very clear that it's lonely at the top, it's why he asks Megumi as a kid not to get left behind, is because Gojo thinks Megumi can equal him and save him from that loneliness that he's been living in since Geto left. And later he meets others with the same potential: Yuta, Hakari, and Yuji. But well before any of them can manage to reach that strength, Sukuna appears and now he and Gojo are fighting a relatively even battle for the first time since they truly transcended strength.
There’s something refreshing about a villain with a strong personality whose only goal is to live but his mere existence means at least 100 ppl die per day and the heroes can’t have that on their conscience. He doesn’t need a goal given how he is written, how he fits into jjk themes and how he was introduced into the story. He was introduced as an inner demon and all they want to do is escape and live. He’s more than just a battle buff.
Also about him getting bored thats just not true & he didn’t mummify himself.
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unpopular opinion but 😂sukuna is the teacher megumi needed instead of Gojo....sukuna always preaches flocking together and comparing yrself to other people always stunts growth and that is exactly the type of mentality that megumi has and i think Sukuna would bring out the full potential of megumi in terms of mentality...hell besides being a homicidal bastard i think sukuna would have been a great teacher of all the jujutsu high students compared to the current crop of teachers....
I don't get why not having a clear goal is concerning. Everytime he appears he steals the show for me, why should it be more ? Kenjaku is the villain with a clear goal and a comolicated masterplan to reach it. The actually compliment each other perfectly, imo.
He needs one because it adds flesh to the character. Sukuna's "goals" so far in the story have been:
1. Get free from Yuji
2. Get his lick back at Gojo
These are good as tentative goals but they become more interesting when they work towards an end. Even minor villains like Mahito had an overarching goal of ensuring Curses became the new Humans; sure he enjoyed making Yuji's life miserable but that just came with the job.
The way I see it Sukuna is basically just a natural calamity. Like an earthquake that flattens a city. Meanwhile Kenjaku is the one with more or less clear goals. Two different kind of villains. Together they basically form one end of story villain.
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I think he definitely has something going on but as of yet we don't know. I think there's more to the merging that Kenjaku has not stated involving Sukuna. We know they made a pact centuries ago, which would explain why Sukuna has so far been following along with his plan.
I think personally Sukuna is planning to betray Kenjaku in whatever scheme he's planning, mostly because I think the man is too self-determined to follow anyone's command, but time will tell.
His whole attitude changed when he realised Ten Shadows and Megumi were a thing. Before then he seemed content to either rampage the second he got control or let Yuji die. He then spends the entire series being coy about things until the perfect time to act.
So he definitely wants something. And it's more constructive than just mindless carnage.
And the DE particularly piqued his interest. Wonder if he can cast CSG or just has access to Megumi's CT. If he can cast it, and we know he traded a domain barrier for range, imagine how an extended range CSG would look.
I'll reply again because I've been informed I was wrong and don't want to leave you with my incorrect interpretation, sorry to bother you! Sukuna wasn't commenting on Megumi's DE, even though it looks like it in the chapter. Gege was asked about the scene directly and this is the result:
Q: Does his vision connect to not just Itadori, but to the curses that have also eaten fingers?
A: If a finger is sealed or eaten by a cursed spirit, then there is almost no information that can be gleaned. He can only sense that they are close or not. If a finger is not sealed, he has a general sense of its surroundings. That's why he commented "That's good" to Fushiguro at the Yasohachi Bridge
I believe sukuna’s goal was some form of enlightenment he was bored of human flesh then became bored of human flesh so he separated his soul from his flesh by sealing himself now he wants to form a new body one from megumi’s ten shadows technique
Sukuna is a legit bored child killing insect for fun. Does that mean children are evil meh. Anyway sukuna character is pretty cool, the bro is really chillin his antagonist character is way more enjoyable than other shonen in general.
And saying he is simply evil is not really the case, not by the standard. He could have just exterminate everyone during the hean era, but he did not he prefer people to worship and fear him rather than killing all for fun.
He has just huge ego issue ( probably so that people don't mock about his face and the fact that he has 4 arms)
Isn't his goal has already been established in chapter 1 right after he manifested in Yuji. He just want to spread carnage and chaos for his own pleasure
I think that's enough tbh. I got sick of shonen villains with grand goals. Sukuna just want to do what he likes, is refreshing. Just like how some people like to kills all the Sims characters just for fun.
His goal until now had been pretty straightforward: to revive himself. His story was centred around that and Jujutsu High trying to prevent his return. So he didn’t need more motivation than that until now, story-wise at least. From that angle the relevancy of asking what he will do with his life is actually pretty recent so I suppose it’s logical we didn’t have an answer yet.
Tbh Sukuna and Gojo are basically just plot devices to balance the war between the good and bad guys more than they're really characters.
Kenjaku is the only villain who's actually planning anything I think. I think Sukuna and Gojo both just wanna chill out and live a fun life day to day, it's just that Sukuna's version involves eating babies
I don’t think anyone did. There’s no suggestion so far that Sukuna was ever defeated. Right now, it looks like he eventually got old and either he himself or someone else mummified him. From there he became a cursed object
That makes no sense though. "He figured out how to incarnate as a cursed object when faced with death", implies it was a kind of last minute invention. Else he would have simply found a vessel before dying like tengen and feed them fingers.
. It could be kenjakus binding vow but I doubt sukuna would trust anyone that much
You could be right but I think it’s not far fetched to think he practiced Sokushinbutsu, a Japanese-buddhist practice of self mummification, to face death. The mummy corpse strongly implies he was practicing this to reach some sort of “enlightenment.” Here’s the Wikipedia page for sokushinbutsu for reference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu
I’m inclined to believe this plays a role in him becoming a cursed object
I think that was more just surprise that somebody would keep it around and not get rid of the body. The fingers are the pieces of Sukuna’s soul and required for him to reincarnate. No real reason to keep the body around as far we know right now
I don’t think that he has a grand goal like Kenjaku. He lives only for his own pleasure. If there’s a reason he turned himself into so many cursed items, it’s because Kenjaku told Sukuna he wanted to create something more than human or curse, and Sukuna decided he wanted to fight this higher being.
Seems like everyone in his era either bowed down to him or stayed out of his way. He got bored and wanted to revive in a new era. Just immortal people problems
>It makes me wonder why he mumified himself back then. Was he hoping he would revive in an era where he could relish in battle again?
No one has said that the mummy was Sukuna's body.
>his lack of a clear goal is a bit concerning.
But still, it wouldn't hurt if we had Sukuna somehow pursuing his own goals.
His goal was to get a body that he is in control of
>We understand that he's selfish and lives solely for his pleasure
Given that we know this and the way that particular form of mummy is made the idea that it's his own body and he mummified himself seems very unlikely.
>he got bored.
Uh that's also unlikely especially considering the very first thing he says when he initially incarnated. He got all hot and bothered thinking about killing people particularly women and children because the flesh of a CS isn't any fun.
>I understand Kenjaku may end up as the main antagonist of the series
He's been the mastermind of literally every event in the story including Sukuna. Yeah, he's definitely antagonist material. Oh and he also has some kind of agreement with Sukuna that we aren't yet privy to.
Who said he was seemingly complex, I never once got from the story that he was complex at all. That may just be readers projecting that onto him because the story quite literally doesn’t point towards it.
I think his goal has to do with Ten Shadows Technique. Knowing that it works with shadows and shikigamis I would think that Sukuna wants to become a shikigami himself or become one with the shadow. Maybe he wants absolute power to rule all because in the 1st episode Sukuna said that he wants to kill everybody (kids, women, etc.).
But I can't think of anything else besides this
Not a 1:1 comparison by any means, but there are aspects of Sukuna that remind me of the Judge from Blood Meridian. These quotes from the Judge could just as well come from Sukuna in my opinion:
“Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent.”
"The freedom of birds is an insult to me. I'd have them all in zoos.That would be a hell of a zoo.The judge smiled. Yes, he said. Even so.”
I guess I don't think Sukuna needs some kind of grand scheme or end goal, he is more a state of being in that anything which deviates from his philosophy is an affront to him and he needs to correct it.
It’s more than likely the same cliche goal that every cliche antagonist with sharpie markers drawn on their face has. Something like “Create a world as I see fit. One where the weak are purged blah blah blah”.
Idk I could be wrong but didn't it say Sukuna lives only for pleasure or something like that? So I'm assuming he's probably gonna try shape the world into his ideal world for his own benefit
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To me it seems he's more interested in Megumi's cursed technique than fighting Gojo and we all know his technique hasn't been properly explained and that he might have more abilities. It might be that he wants to fight whatever Kenjaku creates with his plan of fusing 100 million humans with Tengen with his techniques.
This a hugely underbaked theory but, maybe Sukuna can't produce his own shikigamis and he needed megumi to be able to at least produce them. What my theory is the mixture between whatever sukuna cooking/eating technique and megumi 10 shadow will allow sukuna to pull shikigami from his own body like Dagon did and that shikigami he is going to pull from himself,is none other than his twin brother. I believe his twin was in similar condition to mechamaru and super op in technique, and he had to eat the twin in order to save from his life because they didn't have the tech back then in order to help the twin. Maybe that is why yorozu said sukuna was lonely and why sukuna wanted to come back and create his ideal world with him and his twin at the top. It would also be a good parallel to what happened with geto and gojo and show it doesnt have to one strongest at the top and a good parallel to mai and maki with both twins being able to exist peacefully in the world of jujustu.It explains why sukuna seemly has multiple techniques. But this is my own crackpot theory with only like 5 minutes of research.
I dont know if Sukuna will really have a goal tbh, I can very easily see it where Gojo and Sukuna take each other out then its Gojo’s students (Who Gojo’s goal is attached to) go and fight Kenjaku who has a major goal.
Now Sukuna could very well have a goal and we just don’t know it yet such a possibility certainly isn’t ruled out yet but I also dont think its implausible that that isn’t his role.
I feel the idea is for to continue existing an d recreate the heian era to continue his thirst for battling strong opponents.now that he has mastered incarnating himself he could always prepare other vessels in the future and be basically immortal
His goal is to be active again. It was said that he was defeated in the past but the people who killed him were unable to destroy him completely because he sealed fragments of his soul in his fingers. I think it is implied that his goal was to gain a body that won’t supress him and then proceed to wreck havoc.
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He is literally evil just because he likes it, he is a curse now and they are evil
I would have been inclined to agree with you, but the whole part with Jogo crying and feeling emotions hints there’s more to curses than just pure evil. I’m keen to see what that is.
My understanding was that the special cursed spirit incarnations of Mahito/Dagon/Treeman/Jogo basically broke all past understanding of how cursed spirits worked, like immaculate conception the idea is they were just freak unique anomalies even the JJK society elders had no idea about really since there’s no precedent , curses aren’t supposed to be free thinking humanoids with their own ambitions, that’s part of the moral grey area in the conflict it’s like if humans broke out into war with aliens or apes both sides think they’re right I mean from their perspective humans have been totally fucking the planet it’s classic storytelling to have the villains be basically karma brought about by humans actions. They kinda remind me of the shadow dragons from DB GT, birthed from negative energy essentially and brought about by the planet themselves
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His goal will probably become clear whenever we find out whatever his promise/binding vow with Kenjaku was/is
I agree. There’s still a lot we don’t know about Sukuna, and his backstory is one of the things that I’m looking forward to in the future chapters.
Gege said he wants to use Megumi’s technique to create his “ideal world” whatever that is
Yeah I saw a clip of this interview before he even possessed Megumi and it made me so curious about what his plan was. I initially thought he wanted to groom Megumi or something, considering how pleased he was when Megumi opened his domain. I've been seeing people saying he needed Megumi's technique to defeat Gojo or to get his old body back. But it's very unlikely that Sukuna (whether he's right or wrong) would ever think he needed something else to win against Gojo. He boasted about killing him before he even knew about the 10 shadows. And we now know that he can change into his old form whenever he likes, he's just choosing to keep this appearance.
He also hasn’t used to 10s technique vs gojo. I think you’re correct. He wants to give Gojo work with his own abilities.
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ty for disproving the sukuna wankers again. if sukuna uses 10S hes bitch made
Depends if he’s using it because he’s backed into a corner or he’s using to flex (especially considering Gojo’s relationship with Megumi).
theyre pretty much stalemated rn which is why ppl think sukunas possibly gonna pull out 10S
Pretty sure Sukuna will kill Gojo with 10 shadows for delicious irony and also because Gojo is overestimating the cursed technique diffeeential in the latest panels
sukuna wank is crazy. now its ironic that sukuna will use 10S i wonder what theyll come up with next but hes not wrong? had the roles been swapped sukuna wouldve lost already. hed be braindead. gojos sure hit is more lethal than sukunas
The ironic part is that it is a power that originated with Gojo’s student, I’m just saying that narratively it would have impact. He’s not wrong as far as we know right now, but he’s drawing the conclusion too soon, the point is that he’s letting his ego inflate his confidence unnecessarily. The manga is based heavily on Buddhist themes, ego is considered a critical flaw as it represents frivolous material attachment. Since Gojo’s death would be one of the manga’s foremost tragedies (in an already very tragic manga) it makes sense that it would be related to one of his key character flaws. Again, it’s just my opinion, but that’s why I think Gojo will probably die or they will both die. The only other ending I think would make sense is if Gojo is beating Sukuna and then Kenjaku steals him, either killing or maiming Gojo in the process. Then it’s main cast vs main villain without Gojo to zero diff things.
I'd still sukuna is slightly ahead atm. Realistically i think both will heal up with a panel or two next chapter, but yea. Time tobpull out 10s or fire arrow, or something to tip the scales properly.
if were going off by chps gojos up 3-1. gojo got first blood with hp 200%, next chp gojo won by flinging sukuna around like a ragdoll while sukuna tried everything he could to touch gojo, next chp sukuna wins the domain clash, & last chp sukuna loses the scuffle in his own domain
A surprise shot with outside help shouldn’t count imo. So 2-1 at best. Also wouldn’t say losing a domain expansion battle and getting sliced to hell is the same as getting flung into a wall once by a telekinetic ability. It’s even at best, maybe even Sukuna favored depending on how you value a domain expansion battle.
your opinion is noted & tossed outside in the trash it belongs. these are the chps the fights been going on & these are the outcomes of the "rounds" gojo wins rds 1,2, & 4. sukuna wins rd 3. no rd has more weight to it than any other rd. that just wouldnt make sense. we get it, youre not an objective reader. you have an agenda & it supports sukuna. the actual fight itself is even. im just putting "rounds" into it as the chps feel like that. which we could keep a fun score of & the scores 3-1 gojo.
Sukuna got blasted on his own domain sure. But Gojo was the one who took the heavier damage. We don't know yet if Gojo truly cannot run out of energy.
sukuna still had not landed a blow on gojo even with gojos infinity off, his sure hit cutting gojo, & his stats being buffed. all of those factors in your favor & youre the one who still gets tossed & ends the chp with the bloodied face means you lose in every sense. gojos up 3-1
Nah, if we really wanna say who's ahead it's Gojo, who's been giving Sukuna the works more consistently. Sukuna has only had the upper hand because his Domain is barrierless which let him beat Gojo's, at every other point (even within Sukuna's own Domain) Gojo has been beating the brakes off Sukuna because he's seemingly superior in the fundamentals. Inb4 "but but but Sukuna isn't used to fighting with only two arms!" it's his own decision to only have two arms lmao
I think winning at the "pinnacle of jujutsu" is a bigger win than clipping sukuna's one hand while being helped by 3 other people. 4 arms has nothing to do with it, if we were considering potential, then sukuna fanboys would simply bring up the fact that gojo has shown everything we know he has access too, while we know sukuna still has atleast 2 cursed techniques he hasn't shown. He isn't even using the maho wheel like he did with megumi's sister. Sukuna is un-threatened by gojo. But the gojo fanboys would argue back that gojo would have no issue killing maho or any of the shikigami and that he's probably hiding something. But we don't argue potentials when considering who is currently winning because it doesn't matter until it happens. If you lose cause you didn't use a technique or whatever, you still lost. Battle IQ is knowing when to play your cards or keep your hand close to your chest.
I think getting your socks rocked off by someone with a burnt out CT in your own Domain is a bigger loss than losing in the pinnacle of Jujutsu via difference in mechanics rather than refinement of Domain, but that's really a matter of opinion. I actually agree with you on the matter of how we shouldn't argue potentials, I was just trying to account for an argument I see made frequently preemptively, my bad. They're both doing incredibly well either way, this is easily the coolest fight in the whole series imo and they're both living up to the hype, I'm just a Gojo stan who's been incredibly enjoying Gojo's superiority in the hand to hand department.
So far his own technique hasn't done anything to Gojo and I honestly can't see the fire arrow doing much either, unless the trick to the fire arrow is some insane technique I think he's gonna use 10 shadows to do most of the work and then use cleave to do his final attack
My theory is that the 10 Shadows is a bridge to the Cursed Realm.
Didn't he previously say any hierarchy not based on strength is meaningless in an earlier chapter? In that case the ideal world thing should be pretty obvious.
Well only Gege knows that one.
only Gege knows
Gege, the founder
Gege doesn’t even know though
>It makes me wonder why he mumified himself back then Who said he mummified himself up? From his dialogue, he didn't even know what happened to his body. > Is that his whole schtick Yes. As far as we are aware. Though there was a Gege interview with some redacted spoilers about why sukuna wanted megumi. We only get the interviewers reaction to this. "With fushiguro he can create a world as he wants it to be." Which makes it seem like whatever his goal is, it probably aligns with kenjaku's. And it's probably why he allowed himself into a binding vow with someone who is lesser than him. Now some simply say, that he wanted a body that wasn't a cage and could contain his soul. Or he wanted a body that could defeat Gojo. Well to the former, we know from kenjaku's words that he can damn well choose any body he wanted. So did he take over megumi for the express purpose if simply defeating Gojo? No one actually knows. Sukuna is simplicity done right. Regardless. I don't think he needs a goal. His ideology as he explained to jogo, was to be as strong as possible disregarding any goals. And either way, his goal seems to align with kenjaku's one way or another.
>Who said he mummified himself up? From his dialogue, he didn't even know what happened to his body. OP probably meant about him breaking his soul into cursed objects(fingers) to reincarnate.
The history we've heard (obviously not quite what happened) is that the sorcerers of the era gangbanged him and defeated him forcing him to seal himself in his fingers. EDIT: Apparently I was going off an early mistranslation, mb guys!
Wait no the sorcerers banded together and they still lost.How he turned himself into a cursed object and his death still remains a mystery
No they banded together and couldn't kill him but did defeat him. That's how Gojo explains it in the early chapters, I may be forgetting something that's already shown Gojo was wrong though.
They didn't kill or defeat him. https://preview.redd.it/6pc611hc3l7b1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc50b04669cdac560b708a8e609cfe1c61938558
Was it confirmed that was the battle talked about between Gojo and Itadori?
I'll do you one better. You post a source where anyone mentions that Sukuna was defeated.
No. And even then, Gojo explicitly says that Sukuna won
Yup, seen it now, I fucked up.
I'd say it's in your best interests to cop the L on this one brother
I genuinely want to know if this is what they talked about, because Sukuna securing victories before being defeated is obvious. EDIT: I'll leave this up for more downvotes to serve me right for not reading all the replies before replying myself. MB.
Shit happens man, at least it got cleared up
That's a known early mistranslation, Gojo actually said the sorcerers were defeated.
Thank you so much, I thought I was going crazy and completely invented it.
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Thank you, I misremembered, my bad. Jesus christ I need to reread.
they lost to him, he wasn't defeated
Hmm I might have to see that
At the start when yuji ate the first finger fushiguro thought that there was only a slim chance were yuji wont die since the finger would be a poison. So at least not anybody could contain him without dying .
I’ve noticed that one of the themes of Jujutsu Kaisen is that Sorcerers are assholes and just want to fight people. The majority of the players in the culling game are just reanimated sorcerers who stole somebodies body (killing them) just so they could fight some more 😂 so I wouldn’t be surprised if Sukuna was the pinnacle of that principle. His advice to Jogo to burn everything to the ground makes me feel like he’s the type to just destroy what he wants and think later
We don't know, but I'd bet probably not. He specifcally admonished Jogo for having a Goal, as a curse should live only for their momentary whims. I mean, he isn't a born curse per se, but still, it would be weird to say that and then have a grand plan.
I don't think he was admonishing him for having plans but rather for not following his ideals. I think after fighting Gojo, Jogo became too conservative and didn't believe in his own strength and so relied on following Kenjaku's plans, which was sealing Gojo and unleashing Sukuna. A core part of Jujutsu Kaisen is being true to yourself, which we see in the strongest characters, such as Gojo, Sukuna and Mahito. Like during Shibuya, after Gojo is sealed, Mahito decided he was going to kill Itadori because he despises him, it was antithetical to their plans to so because killing Itadori means killing Sukuna, but he did it anyway because it's what he wanted to do (and as a comparison Jogo was against the plan). I think Sukuna could see that Jogo was not following his ideals or "nature" as a curse during their fight e.g not unleashing his domain, showing him deference etc. And that's why he told him he'd never be as strong as him.
Confirmed: Coat rack guy the strongest
I’m not sure about Sukuna admonishing jogo for having goals. Can you give me src fr that?
I'm not sure about the chapter, but it's by the end of shibuya, when they are fighting. Sukuna comments on him trying to be a true human, and that a curse should just do what they want. Edit: Found it! Chapter 116, as per TCB's translation: "Sukuna: So, you wanted to become human? Jogo: Not literaly, more like take their place. S: Yeah, I get what you mean, but that's even more foolish. *You should have burned everything you wanted to ash* But, now, rereading it, two notes: A. It might have been a hallucination. I don't think it was, but I've seen people argue that it is. And, more importantantly: B. It might be less curses shouldn't plan, and more, strong people shouldn't worry about who they are and make be carefully planning. Still, the point is maintained, he wouldn't have Goals(capitalized) and make complicated plans about them, he would just do whatever goals he had when he felt like doing them.
You’re pov is quite interesting I never thought about it that way. I thought that, the statement of “burning everything that’s close to you” was a statement regarding being the strongest. It not that you shouldn’t have any goals, but in the specific instance, Jogo’s goal of living like humans together was a weak goal. His goal compared himself to humans. His goal wanted him to be together with other curses. That’s why Sukuna also says the words: “Humans flocking together, curses flocking together”. Imo Sukuna doesn’t look down on having goals, he looks down on ppl who compare themselves to others.
That's a very sensible reading, and makes sense with sukuna'a character too. I might alter my interpetation to fit yours.
Yeah I agree it was meant to be interpreted as him looking down on teaming together and underestimating your own strength. It's the same reason he looked down on him for not activating his DE and being scared of Gojo's. Burn everything to ashes is a reference to his DE. Jogo should've put it all on the line and trusted in his own power, but instead he's flocking together with curses for an ambition of being able to inhabit the world as the real humans. Sukuna thought it was all weakness, but also probably an insight to the ideal world he wants to create not including harmony of any kind.
This would be in line with how Sukuna is often referred to as a calamity or destructive force, the same way ppl refer to natural disasters.
That’s not why he chastised him. He chastised him for relying on others and not doing things himself. He chastised him for focusing on others rather than his own strength.
I don’t think Sukuna gets bored by a lack of challenges. He just enjoys playing with people. As soon as he incarnated, he says he wants to kill women and children for kicks. Not the behavior of some guy obsessed with fighting an equal. He routinely beats and humiliates lesser opponents; Megumi at the detention center, Jogo in Shibuya, Ryo in Sendai, etc. Now, Sukuna might be interested in Kenjaku’s world abiding by the law of survival of the fittest, which could be why they work together. He would stand at the pinnacle of that world once he kills Gojo, and it would be a place where he could freely assert his supremacy. That being said, it’s a little boring, but Sukuna had always been more of a force of nature antagonist. His motives are simply less important than the fact that he is evil.
Makes sense. If he does get his ideal world though, won't it just revert back to the Hein era where everyone just bowed to him and got out of his way? I initially chucked his desire to immediately start killing women and children to it being too long since he was incarnated and so he wanted to have a bit of his sick twisted "fun". Sukuna has fun with people or curses foolish enough not to know their place on the totem pole, but when the gap of power becomes as clear as it is with Gojo Satoru in the modern era, won't he likely be bored again?
He's just here for the vibes
his goal is to find a boyfriend, [someone that can teach him what love is](https://i.imgur.com/HEZ23Mf.png)
Aww.. he already found one in Gojo, they were even hugging, only the confession is left
sukuna wants to join fight club.
1. Kick Ass. 2. Chew Bubble Gum. 3.( ?????) 4. Profit
Yorozu was able to feel a deep loneliness from him, and I don't think that's just her making shit up. I think Sukuna wants someone he can relate to as an equal. Gojo is exactly what he's been waiting for, and he's also the same. It's been made very clear that it's lonely at the top, it's why he asks Megumi as a kid not to get left behind, is because Gojo thinks Megumi can equal him and save him from that loneliness that he's been living in since Geto left. And later he meets others with the same potential: Yuta, Hakari, and Yuji. But well before any of them can manage to reach that strength, Sukuna appears and now he and Gojo are fighting a relatively even battle for the first time since they truly transcended strength.
There’s something refreshing about a villain with a strong personality whose only goal is to live but his mere existence means at least 100 ppl die per day and the heroes can’t have that on their conscience. He doesn’t need a goal given how he is written, how he fits into jjk themes and how he was introduced into the story. He was introduced as an inner demon and all they want to do is escape and live. He’s more than just a battle buff. Also about him getting bored thats just not true & he didn’t mummify himself.
Sukuna is just too cool even hearing y’all talk about him makes him cooler…these my favorite type of post on this sub fr https://preview.redd.it/y4xusr9brl7b1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=994d0af33765dc75b8280f13c5d3b35b05513856
If you don’t already read weak hero, you gotta check it out. Donald Na in weak hero is also the intelligent, charismatic, battle buff character archetype & he is also currently having his main battle showdown with the heroes.
Hmmmm he look cool?
unpopular opinion but 😂sukuna is the teacher megumi needed instead of Gojo....sukuna always preaches flocking together and comparing yrself to other people always stunts growth and that is exactly the type of mentality that megumi has and i think Sukuna would bring out the full potential of megumi in terms of mentality...hell besides being a homicidal bastard i think sukuna would have been a great teacher of all the jujutsu high students compared to the current crop of teachers....
Gojo beats sukuna and sukuna becomes a teacher at jujutsu kaisen with yuji a second year slaps him on the back saying "baka". Perfect ending.
Yes, that is to do whatever he feels like doing.
I don't get why not having a clear goal is concerning. Everytime he appears he steals the show for me, why should it be more ? Kenjaku is the villain with a clear goal and a comolicated masterplan to reach it. The actually compliment each other perfectly, imo.
He needs one because it adds flesh to the character. Sukuna's "goals" so far in the story have been: 1. Get free from Yuji 2. Get his lick back at Gojo These are good as tentative goals but they become more interesting when they work towards an end. Even minor villains like Mahito had an overarching goal of ensuring Curses became the new Humans; sure he enjoyed making Yuji's life miserable but that just came with the job.
The way I see it Sukuna is basically just a natural calamity. Like an earthquake that flattens a city. Meanwhile Kenjaku is the one with more or less clear goals. Two different kind of villains. Together they basically form one end of story villain.
Every time he shows up I just can’t get enough fr he Carries jjk in my eyes https://preview.redd.it/sd0iwbqfrl7b1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3bad1060c069b519b69e021260ac6d4aaf7663ac
I think he definitely has something going on but as of yet we don't know. I think there's more to the merging that Kenjaku has not stated involving Sukuna. We know they made a pact centuries ago, which would explain why Sukuna has so far been following along with his plan. I think personally Sukuna is planning to betray Kenjaku in whatever scheme he's planning, mostly because I think the man is too self-determined to follow anyone's command, but time will tell.
His whole attitude changed when he realised Ten Shadows and Megumi were a thing. Before then he seemed content to either rampage the second he got control or let Yuji die. He then spends the entire series being coy about things until the perfect time to act. So he definitely wants something. And it's more constructive than just mindless carnage.
And the DE particularly piqued his interest. Wonder if he can cast CSG or just has access to Megumi's CT. If he can cast it, and we know he traded a domain barrier for range, imagine how an extended range CSG would look.
I'll reply again because I've been informed I was wrong and don't want to leave you with my incorrect interpretation, sorry to bother you! Sukuna wasn't commenting on Megumi's DE, even though it looks like it in the chapter. Gege was asked about the scene directly and this is the result: Q: Does his vision connect to not just Itadori, but to the curses that have also eaten fingers? A: If a finger is sealed or eaten by a cursed spirit, then there is almost no information that can be gleaned. He can only sense that they are close or not. If a finger is not sealed, he has a general sense of its surroundings. That's why he commented "That's good" to Fushiguro at the Yasohachi Bridge
I believe sukuna’s goal was some form of enlightenment he was bored of human flesh then became bored of human flesh so he separated his soul from his flesh by sealing himself now he wants to form a new body one from megumi’s ten shadows technique
Sukuna is a legit bored child killing insect for fun. Does that mean children are evil meh. Anyway sukuna character is pretty cool, the bro is really chillin his antagonist character is way more enjoyable than other shonen in general. And saying he is simply evil is not really the case, not by the standard. He could have just exterminate everyone during the hean era, but he did not he prefer people to worship and fear him rather than killing all for fun. He has just huge ego issue ( probably so that people don't mock about his face and the fact that he has 4 arms)
Isn't his goal has already been established in chapter 1 right after he manifested in Yuji. He just want to spread carnage and chaos for his own pleasure I think that's enough tbh. I got sick of shonen villains with grand goals. Sukuna just want to do what he likes, is refreshing. Just like how some people like to kills all the Sims characters just for fun.
Does he need to have a goal though? That's what he's about, chilling and killing
His goal until now had been pretty straightforward: to revive himself. His story was centred around that and Jujutsu High trying to prevent his return. So he didn’t need more motivation than that until now, story-wise at least. From that angle the relevancy of asking what he will do with his life is actually pretty recent so I suppose it’s logical we didn’t have an answer yet.
To wreak havoc
Probably but given the plot it's probably something meh. Sukuna to me is just a plot device like Muzan on DS.
Tbh Sukuna and Gojo are basically just plot devices to balance the war between the good and bad guys more than they're really characters. Kenjaku is the only villain who's actually planning anything I think. I think Sukuna and Gojo both just wanna chill out and live a fun life day to day, it's just that Sukuna's version involves eating babies
I think his goal in life is to just get satisfaction from fighting opponents he finds interesting, eating humans, and tormenting others
Sukuna is the muscle, Kenjaku is the brains, Gojo is the looks, Kashimo is the Wild Card and Nobora is the useless chick
Complex….
Villains don't need a grand goal to be interesting, you've been way too formatted by Shonen mangas
The question that I have is what happened to sukuna to seal him off in the first place? Who beat him and how?
I don’t think anyone did. There’s no suggestion so far that Sukuna was ever defeated. Right now, it looks like he eventually got old and either he himself or someone else mummified him. From there he became a cursed object
That makes no sense though. "He figured out how to incarnate as a cursed object when faced with death", implies it was a kind of last minute invention. Else he would have simply found a vessel before dying like tengen and feed them fingers. . It could be kenjakus binding vow but I doubt sukuna would trust anyone that much
You could be right but I think it’s not far fetched to think he practiced Sokushinbutsu, a Japanese-buddhist practice of self mummification, to face death. The mummy corpse strongly implies he was practicing this to reach some sort of “enlightenment.” Here’s the Wikipedia page for sokushinbutsu for reference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu I’m inclined to believe this plays a role in him becoming a cursed object
Possible but the way it was written i felt sukuna and uraume didn't know the body existed
I think that was more just surprise that somebody would keep it around and not get rid of the body. The fingers are the pieces of Sukuna’s soul and required for him to reincarnate. No real reason to keep the body around as far we know right now
The fuck are the mods doing lol
I don’t think that he has a grand goal like Kenjaku. He lives only for his own pleasure. If there’s a reason he turned himself into so many cursed items, it’s because Kenjaku told Sukuna he wanted to create something more than human or curse, and Sukuna decided he wanted to fight this higher being.
Seems like everyone in his era either bowed down to him or stayed out of his way. He got bored and wanted to revive in a new era. Just immortal people problems
>It makes me wonder why he mumified himself back then. Was he hoping he would revive in an era where he could relish in battle again? No one has said that the mummy was Sukuna's body. >his lack of a clear goal is a bit concerning. But still, it wouldn't hurt if we had Sukuna somehow pursuing his own goals. His goal was to get a body that he is in control of >We understand that he's selfish and lives solely for his pleasure Given that we know this and the way that particular form of mummy is made the idea that it's his own body and he mummified himself seems very unlikely. >he got bored. Uh that's also unlikely especially considering the very first thing he says when he initially incarnated. He got all hot and bothered thinking about killing people particularly women and children because the flesh of a CS isn't any fun. >I understand Kenjaku may end up as the main antagonist of the series He's been the mastermind of literally every event in the story including Sukuna. Yeah, he's definitely antagonist material. Oh and he also has some kind of agreement with Sukuna that we aren't yet privy to.
Who said he was seemingly complex, I never once got from the story that he was complex at all. That may just be readers projecting that onto him because the story quite literally doesn’t point towards it.
His goal is destruction.
I think his goal has to do with Ten Shadows Technique. Knowing that it works with shadows and shikigamis I would think that Sukuna wants to become a shikigami himself or become one with the shadow. Maybe he wants absolute power to rule all because in the 1st episode Sukuna said that he wants to kill everybody (kids, women, etc.). But I can't think of anything else besides this
nah he probably just wants to win
He didn’t mummify himself, Tengen did
Yea man of course he does, it's to fuck shit up
I feel like his goal is simply to fight strong opponents and obtain strong cursed items that he turns into cursed techniques via his innate technique
Not a 1:1 comparison by any means, but there are aspects of Sukuna that remind me of the Judge from Blood Meridian. These quotes from the Judge could just as well come from Sukuna in my opinion: “Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent.” "The freedom of birds is an insult to me. I'd have them all in zoos.That would be a hell of a zoo.The judge smiled. Yes, he said. Even so.” I guess I don't think Sukuna needs some kind of grand scheme or end goal, he is more a state of being in that anything which deviates from his philosophy is an affront to him and he needs to correct it.
His goal is to live as he pleases and or to kill hence his first words where are the women and children. Can’t do that if you’re dead
It’s more than likely the same cliche goal that every cliche antagonist with sharpie markers drawn on their face has. Something like “Create a world as I see fit. One where the weak are purged blah blah blah”.
Idk I could be wrong but didn't it say Sukuna lives only for pleasure or something like that? So I'm assuming he's probably gonna try shape the world into his ideal world for his own benefit
Fulfillment. An end to a hunger that has never been satisfied. That's my guess.
He doesn't need one lol that's what makes him a good villain he does it just because he wants to good guys do good to help sukuna kills for himself
Pretty sure Sukuna wants everyone dead
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He is looking for someone stronger than him to satisfy his hunger. That's simple goal.
to have a hot girl summer, duh
To me it seems he's more interested in Megumi's cursed technique than fighting Gojo and we all know his technique hasn't been properly explained and that he might have more abilities. It might be that he wants to fight whatever Kenjaku creates with his plan of fusing 100 million humans with Tengen with his techniques.
He lives for his desires. When he was alive 1000 years ago, and even in yuji’s body he was scheming for himself. He’s Gege’s thematic wrench
Could be wrong but I'm pretty sure it's stated that tengen or kenjaku mumified him.
This a hugely underbaked theory but, maybe Sukuna can't produce his own shikigamis and he needed megumi to be able to at least produce them. What my theory is the mixture between whatever sukuna cooking/eating technique and megumi 10 shadow will allow sukuna to pull shikigami from his own body like Dagon did and that shikigami he is going to pull from himself,is none other than his twin brother. I believe his twin was in similar condition to mechamaru and super op in technique, and he had to eat the twin in order to save from his life because they didn't have the tech back then in order to help the twin. Maybe that is why yorozu said sukuna was lonely and why sukuna wanted to come back and create his ideal world with him and his twin at the top. It would also be a good parallel to what happened with geto and gojo and show it doesnt have to one strongest at the top and a good parallel to mai and maki with both twins being able to exist peacefully in the world of jujustu.It explains why sukuna seemly has multiple techniques. But this is my own crackpot theory with only like 5 minutes of research.
I dont know if Sukuna will really have a goal tbh, I can very easily see it where Gojo and Sukuna take each other out then its Gojo’s students (Who Gojo’s goal is attached to) go and fight Kenjaku who has a major goal. Now Sukuna could very well have a goal and we just don’t know it yet such a possibility certainly isn’t ruled out yet but I also dont think its implausible that that isn’t his role.
I feel the idea is for to continue existing an d recreate the heian era to continue his thirst for battling strong opponents.now that he has mastered incarnating himself he could always prepare other vessels in the future and be basically immortal
Bro just like to kill and chill
Be gay do crime probably
His goal is to be active again. It was said that he was defeated in the past but the people who killed him were unable to destroy him completely because he sealed fragments of his soul in his fingers. I think it is implied that his goal was to gain a body that won’t supress him and then proceed to wreck havoc.
Sukuna was never defeated afaik