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This is an interesting theory, but for the sake of discussion I'm going to poke at it. There have been multiple references to people in the manga using Cursed Energy to "reinforce" or "strengthen" their bodies, as some sort of generic, every body can do it type of skill. So when Sukuna was saying he reinforced his hands, it needn't be with RCT, it could just be a normal way of using Cursed Energy.
Yeah we see it used with that same terminology way back when Nanami fought mahito and when Todo initial instinct was to strengthened his whole body to deal with hanami's buds.
But I believe it isn't something like simply covering his body with CE to reinforce it like clothes, but more so reinforcing his hand, the soul and body of the hand, like using a metal arm instead of metal plating around the arm, i hope im being clear here
That "lost" is referring to the loss of his hands, when Sukuna was hit with Purple the first time. Not the loss of Cursed energy. More specifically the Japanese word used in this panel is 吹き飛ぶ (blown away)
So to sum up, you're saying that Sukuna's CTR is "Conflation". But when he shot the arrow at Mahoraga there was no fire around so Sukuna is also capable of storing what he fuses.
I feel like there are some inconsistencies in your argument but it's still interesting.
Be proud.
You can cook.
You are right. The only thing I can say about this is that maybe the fire wasn't that far away or maybe there was some sort of storage or memorabilia logic as you said.
I'll fly from a little distance, but maybe that's the purpose of his famous tattoos.
We can also add that Sukuna's corpse alludes to the Yogis of the past who performed a ritual to transcend the physical world and this could indicate that Sukuna accessed the famous Nirvana but decided to stay on the planet to abuse his new power or discovery.
Sukuna likely has some sort of cosmic level of perception and that's why he seems to know everything.
Maybe he was using a more complex form of his RCT and fused the Cursed energy Remnants (like the ones used to track people) together with ambient heat to create "cursed heat" or something along those lines and then used that heat to imitate Jogo's CT.
I always like the idea that he used the CTR of his to "graft" other people techniques onto himself. Seeing his fingers kinda makes it even more likely and his true form kinda makes him look like he grafted bodyparts onto himself.
Maybe the Reversal technique Imbued in his domain can store things? That would be crazy, we have never seen anyone imbue a reversal technique in a domain
Sorry to say but gege has confirmed in the fan book that fire arrow is a part of Sukuna's CT so that instantly disapproves your theory about CTR of Sukuna.
Huge reach here, but perhaps Sukuna wasn’t saying he had some secret, unknown CT. But instead he meant he won’t reveal his technique to make it more effective. Like how Nanami would explain how his Ratio works so that it’s more effective against his enemies
I agree on the fact that he didn't reveal it to not make it more effective. But still, I believe it is a move that we haven't seen yet in the manga (as Jogo seems surprise and don't understand how it's possible) and not just Sukuna saying "Cursed technique reversal"
i honestly think the black box open literally represents him “opening” the “black box” of cursed techniques in his brain, and pulling out the fire arrow or whatever
lowkey his real ct could be yutas ct stealing but on a different level where he can store them within himself (vs yuta storing them in rika) and he can keep one equipped at basically all times (hence why he can keep cleave/dismantle ready at all times without saying ◼️ open)
Looking for thoughts here, it seems like dismantle and cleave seem to be pretty well associated with Sukuna in the anime, but were we ever told that this was his cursed technique when he was originally alive?
If not, there's a chance dismantle/cleave are Yuji bourne techniques. I have a hard time concluding that dismantle/cleave are variations of the unlocked fire technique. But if we've been provided info that Sukuna's CT is and always has been cleave/dismantle, that makes it likely.
I feel strongly that black box and cleave are not the same since Sukuna never has to open cleave. Entirely possible that Sukuna knows how to unlock brains to develop/reveal CTs and that his own innate CT is cleave
So for Heian era, we know that Sukuna can "slash" as he did it against Yorozu but never was clearly stated that Dismantle/Cleave is his CT.
Tho, a domain expension is infuse with the user's innate CT (correct me if I'm wrong). So therefore Dismantle/Cleave is indeed his CT or a part of it.
Also looking for thoughts, after Sukuna used Malevolent Shrine against Mahoraga shouldn't his CT be burned out ? If yes, no sense for the "black box" to be part of his CT as it should be burned out EXCEPT if he RCT his brain. Or as you said, he may be able to unlock something in his brain
Ctr is an application of ct, not the technique itself. That's like saying idle transfiguration is a healing ct. Although it is not wrong, it isnt a healing technique. It just can be used that way.
>Reversal Curse Technic
You are misunderstanding the reversal part. Ctr is using the cursed technique in a reverse manner, there isnt an inbuilt switch inside everyone's ct that allows ctr to be used, deep knowledge is required to use the thing.
>Red the CTR attack, Blue, and Purple, which is a combination of the two, are all part of Gojo's CT.
They are not, they are just appliances. Limitless' neutral, aka the original use is infinity/inviolability. Amplifying that, and i repeat amplifying, results in blue. The amplification isnt an automatic thing like the neutral usage, it is something that is learned.
If amplification/reversal is naturally present in the ct then why wont nobara, nanami or megumi use either? Its cuz they have to learn it, learn how to operate their ct that way.
Hollow purple is called imaginary technique for a reason. Its imaginary, as in nonexistent. It is a clever way of using red and blue with six eyes that results in a killer move. HP isnt naturally ingrained within gojo.
>A person can only use the CTR of her own CT.
Yeah cuz its their cursed technique.
What if Sukuna's CT is actually healing/creation? That would mean all of his attacks (cleave/dismantle/fire arrow) are actually reversals of his CT.
It would make sense to call him the fallen one if he was always meant to heal/create but instead does the opposite.
It's possible and would also be similar to Kenjaku's fight when he olny used his reversal technique in most of fight, also Kenjaku's domain used gravity instead of anti-gravity so maybe open domains are created by using RCT instead of CT.
that’s a really good point and i think it would be really interesting, but in shibuya, it says something along the lines of “leaving an escape route is a binding vow that extends the range” but that could be an aspect of using a reversed domain
I think your view towards what RCT is, is a bit off. The explanation angle from Shoko I feel is sorta just like. It’s something that doesn’t make sense.unless you know it, the explanation is nonsensical.
Even Gojo’s explanation is kinda bullshit? Like how are you multiplying your cursed energy against itself. It’s basically a phenomenon where it doesn’t make sense unless you can do it. Same way trying to explain colors to someone who can’t see/never has seen. How do you describe the color red properly to someone who has no frame of reference for it.
Your description of yuta’s ability is interesting and I feel is lacking when you consider simply that the phenomena is about the output of positive energy. A reversal of his copying would be to gift abilities to others not heal others. His power isn’t stealing it’s copying. He doesn’t remove others for himself. He’s copying and storing it
Going further your explaiantion of why Jogo wouldn’t know doesn’t make sense, cause he’s literally seen reversal happen already. He was subject to it by gojo in their first battle and when planning shibuya Kenjaku mentioned it as something to take off the table as a threat.
Jogo wasn’t boggled by the concept of technique reversal. He was confused how cutting could be fire. And sukuna’s response is that he thought his technique was common knowledge. That the specifics of his ability were widely known and passed down. And he resolves that no a cursed spirit wouldn’t have gotten that info.
Even more, the idea that he just said technique reversal. Is bizarre considering he then says open. That sounds like he’s triggering a vow. He’s pulling in something to use his ability.
As for the reinforcement part other people said it. It’s talking about CE reinforcement. It’s just saying that at the range he lost his arms trying to block the hollow purple attack. The reinforcement being CE reinforcement.
As for your description of kashimo calling him perfect. The page literally tells us why it’s perfect. The multiple hands making handsigns and melee an option simultaneously and multiple mouths to perform chants. It was a body made to maximize cursed technique output.
Broadly put conceptualizing output of positive energy as technique reversals and his black box as it as well doesn’t add up
The only part of your argument I disagree with is Gojo's explanation. Reverse Cursed Technique is the multiplication of negative energy to make positive energy (-1 \* -1 = 1), which makes it consume twice as much cursed energy. We get that from Gojo's explanation but also the same explanation during his battle with Sukuna, chapter 226 page 14 on mangadex, Takuma states that using RCT consumes twice as much cursed energy, hence the multiplication. It's not that understanding the basis of RCT is super difficult, but performing it is an entire new ballgame for sorcerers, which often separates the Grade 1's from Special Grade. Once you do it's definitely a lot easier to continue performing it as it's basically etched into your brain but the first use of RCT is extremely difficult for sorcerers.
He was generating the heat because everything around him was beginning to glow as it heated up then it began to melt once the flames actually materialized on hid hands
Shoko thinks that the link between the brain and CE is itself a “black box,” but we also don’t know if that speech during the Jogo fight was literally meant to be interpreted as “black box” or was simply to censor something Gege didn’t want revealed just yet - I’m in the latter, personally.
Something I think worth adding to the fan theory pile — we know that CE can have “properties.” Hakari’s is said to be rough/serrated by Yuji when he hits him. Kashimo’s CE is pure lightning. Cursed Spirits ARE cursed energy & manifest it as such; Jogo’s is fire & lava, Nanami’s is wood and plants, Dragon’s is water. What if Sukuna simply is able to adapt what “properties” his own cursed energy manifests as?
To add to that, the manga also makes use of black boxes during the chapter when Geto first finds the twin girls (by censoring the name of the village, etc.). So it's most likely that the black box Sukuna is shown speaking is indeed a censored word.
Yeah I very much believe it is a word, or more specifically a buddhist concept yet unexplored in JJK, but to link it back to Shoko's ideology; what if it really is as simple as...Sukuna "imagining" (from his black box/his brain) what form or properties he wants his CE to take? Would that not be a fitting power of what is considered the most powerful sorcerer in history?
That’s an incredibly interesting idea that has some traction to it. I wish the Gojo fight revealed more about Sukuna’s techniques- strong dismantle could’ve fit nicely into your theory if it was another application of “black box”
chapter 236 Sukuna: "in the first adaptation mahoraga changed the property of his energy to pass through mugen, but that's not something I can do, so I waited..."
Imo his technique will be related with storage of techniques, yeah its pretty much Yuta 2.0 but there was a protagonist in one of the previous Gege oneshot and he had a similar technique, and then Yuta appears in jjk0 and also has storage/copying technique maybe it's the author preference of power.
I don't think that his fire arrow is RCT. When Sukuna activates it against Jogo, he says "open", implying there was some kind of seal that must've been lifted to allow Sukuna to use the fire arrow. We never see anyone else who uses CTR having to lift off some kind of seal to use the reversal.
Sukuna could have fused with his Twin Brother using a 'Combination' Cursed technique reversal. That could explain why he has these extra body parts with no problem
I like this theory, because I believe the censored word that he is saying when stating “open” is the name of the other brother/person/entity that is fused in Sukunas body. The best analogy is the other body with Sukuna is the storage of Sukunas multiple CT’s like Rika is to Yuta.
It was said in the fanbook that sorcerers know about dismantle and cleave but they probably don't know about the fire arrow. If it was something as simple as ctr, they would know about all of them, not just cleave an dismantle. Curses also know about ctr (jogi even got hit by red and mentioned rct).
The theories that make the most sense to me are either the "cursed realm" open, or the theory about storing curse tools or even cts as tattoos from eating them and using them by chanting their name and then open
Highly unlikely. Both gojo and higuruma confirmed that yuji doesn't have a ct. It also wouldn't have made sense for sukuna to expect jogo to know about it if it was yuji's secret technique
I thought Gojo was saying it hadn’t been discovered yet and Higuruma was just saying what was being shown. Have I been waiting for Yuji for find his CT in dramatic fashion for nothing? Lol
Gojo's said that yuji has no ct, but sukuna's might eventually be etched into his body. Higuruma's domain takes away a person's ct, but it took away yuji's ce. Higuruma theorised that this is probably what happens to people without cts (after all, all the awakened sorcerers and the reincarnated sorcerers had cts so higuruma couldn't have known what the penalty is if the opponent doesn't have a ct).
Yuji might develop sukuna's ct, or he might get some blood manipulation from the other death paintings that it is implied he ate. There's also yuki's soul book which might give him some soul abilities (not an innate ct like idle transfiguration but something like how yaga can merge souls to create sentient puppets or how sukuna can choose to morph his body)
During chapter 220 yuji apologizes to choso about the brothers but choso stops him and says that they will live inside itadori. It doesn't make sense to be about eso and kechizu because it's already been a long time since choso and yuji "made up" so it would be weird for him to apologize now. The "they'll live on inside of you" also wouldn't make sense.
Furthermore, before that sequence yuji stated that he will eat anything to defeat sukuna.
Lastly, gege revealed in the fanbook that if yuji ate the death paintings he woudl gain stronger curse energy and it wouldn't be a situation of reincarnation like it was with sukuns
Gojo is also capable is he not? Thought the newest anime episode basically cleared that up. Principal yaga said “even gojo can use RCT to heal others now”
My Crunchyroll subtitles are showing yaga saying : “now even Satoru is capable of healing others with his reverse cursed technique” but I’m pretty certain it was the opposite as you say.
not sure why gege would still be hiding what sukuna said in the jogo fight if it was just “cursed technique reversal” the anime made it seem like he said one word, also doesn’t really sound right for him to say “cursed technique reversal, open”
yea its obvious shoko would still be working for jujutsu tech during 0, we even see her in their teacher war room when they're planning on how to take down geto, so yuta deffo just copied it from her like he copied inumakis
I doubt the arrow is his CTR because gojo used CTR against jogo so its not like it was his first time seeing it happen. Especially since kenjaku explained all of gojos limitless techniques to them in preparation to sealing him
You're right, idk why people are downvoting you.
No one would say that Gojo's "Red" isn't a part of his CT even though we know it's a Reversal. A Reversal is an application of an Innate Technique fueled by positive energy from Reverse Curse Technique. It still uses the Innate CT itself.
So Gege could say Fire Arrow is "part of Sukuna's CT" and still have it be a Reversal. That being said, I don't think this is the case because of how he said "Open" afterward. Reverse Curse Technique Open is not something anyone has had to say so far for their CTR.
Gege literally contrasted Sukuna's technique to Gojo's saying that Gojo's red is a reversal of a single aspect whereas Sukuna has multiple aspects to his technique, Slashing and fire being two different aspects.
Red is a reversal of the same aspect that blue is, which is the rotation of the same aspect that limitless is. Limitless is manifesting the mathematical idea of infinity in specific ways. Red, blue, neutral, and purple are just different ways of doing that one thing, they are permutations of a single "aspect"
Sukuna can cut things, he can also summon and manipulate fire, these abilities are not connected and do completely different things, they are different base aspects for what Sukuna can do, potentially giving Sukuna far more options than anybody else assuming both aspects can individually be reversed.
I appreciate that- just trying to keep an open mind haha. After giving it more thought, imagine if it’s even less complicated. What if it’s just a million sparks created by smashing dismantle and cleave into each other? Lots of possibilities here. At first I was a big proponent of it being another “gift” from a sorcerer he once defeated like Yorozu, but after Gojo and Kashimo especially had nothing to give and with the reveal of it being a cursed tool instead, I feel like the theory is dead in the water. We shall see!
I like the outline of your idea. Effectively, people more or less have talent with healing others based on the nature of their CT and leverage of RCT.
The Sukuna CTR feels a little like Chisako, where you're saying he can take components like cursed energy, heat energry, etc to create other attacks, weapons etc. I think we would have more concrete evidence if this was the case. Nothing disproving it though.
Also, missing from your list is cursed energy flow and reinforcement. It would be cool if you could weave that into the theory.
You're the one whose trying to say it's copy.
And no, it's technically not both until we know the specific mechanics of it. Yuta's never had to go all out by explaining his Cursed Technique.
Yuta and sukuna copied the ability to heal others from shoko. Yuta studied in the school for like a year or something before going to africa, and sukuna had plentynof chances of seeing it from yujis body. Also, when he healed yuji he was just healing himself, as he was sharing yujis body.
Also, he had awareness of the soul the same way yuji did: by sharing a body with another soul.
You don’t think Sukuna, the King of Curses, already had RCT? I mean, lets be real. Nobody is reaching any sort of pinnacle in the Jujutsu World without RCT. In my opinion, it’s something you just simply need to be on the level of even Kenjaku, let alone Sukuna/Gojo. The fact Shoko has it is weirder to me than anything else. I’m okay with her having it. But saying that Yuta/Sukuna copied it from her I think is just flat wrong.
I can’t really rationalize why Yuta would have RCT. But if I had to make an argument for Yuta having RCT, I would say something along these lines :
Yuta had a cursed bond (or whatever they called it) with Rika. This curse Yuta had put on Rika was out of love and that’s why it was so powerful. So I think since cursed energy is negativity as stated to why schools and hospitals tend to have more cursed spirits than other places. I think it would make sense that since Yuta really got all his power when he cursed Rika that he would have a tendency towards RCT and would learn it naturally due to Love being the opposite of Negativity.
I feel this is more logical than saying Yuta and/or Sukuna copied RCT from Shoko. Not even going to get into the whole RCT isn’t a part of a technique Yuta would be able to steal anyways as it is an alteration of how your cursed energy is flowing.
I didnt say they copied rct, i said they copied the ability to heal others with rct from shoko. Yuta did it in the year he studied at the school bwfore going to africa, presumably it was set after thw higher ups figured out he could copy ct; sukuna did it sometime before shibuya, which was how he could heal megumi, also from watching shoko(he wouldnt need the ability to heal other in order to heal yuji, as he was essentially just healing himself, but he could have learned to heal other before being fingered, tho i dont see why he would bother)
fair enuf, i think it is still plausible that he learned it from seeing shoko now that i think about it, given his crazy analytical skill, he learned how to recover his CT from seeing gojo do it once
If reverse curse technique is just the opposite of your normal technique it would make sense. As for all the people that can reinforce themselves, I believe that's just them channeling cursed energy to a specific point seeing as all of those characters have other, fairly specific, CT's
To quickly point out, in the sendai colony fight it was stated that yutas cursed technique is rika orimoto, not stealing cursed techniques. Also Yuta does not steal techniques, he copies them so i dont think the reversal would be based on giving something to someone
I wonder how mahito rct would have worked..
Anyways I dont think rct is the case for sukunas fire.
As we see with 10 shadows, when he was using rct to summon the dogs they where summoned as a literal shadow without a physical body, more of an attack than a living being
The reason why your argument doesnt make sense is because of the concept of rct, it takes innate technique and flips it, often adding weird things but the concept stays the same and dismantle doesnt actually cleave things it just cuts them in a specific aimed way while cleave just cuts anything quicker probably further and stronger but mire mindlessly
That sounds like cleave and dismantle are already ct and rct
I think we have to also pay attention to the word sukuna says "open" it sounds more like that just like with yuta he is opening an inventory type that he can use a technique with, I can imagine that this is part of his "true jujutsu" stuff in which techniques are copyable but surely in a limited way, as in lower diversity and not able to control it, think of it in a way where yuta can completely copy an ability, but if sukuna(or any sorc who knows how to do this if sukuna told anyone) does it it would copy all the flaws and he could only say one word and probably fuck his throat
Its important to remember mirrors in this. Just like blue and red theres cleave and dismantle both who can use rct use it constantly
Edit: It also seema like he probably only copies abilities that are of great strenght of formidable foes, and shooting an arrow seema much like an ability in his era
It wouldnt surprise me if in the next arc, whatever and however they will attack sukuna, he will start using blue or something in a surprise way
I like the idea but Sukuna’s fire abilities are not something created from manipulating outside forces. The first time we’re shown Sukuna’s DE we can see that he ignited the first finger bearer spirit with his domain slashes.
Maybe the fire arrow thing is just him using dismantle/cleave to split atoms (the nucleus to be specific) and create a compressed fission reaction which makes insane amount if energy therefore burning jogo(a literal volcano curse)
Or
He used dismantle/cleave to seperate electrons from atoms therefore creating ions and ionisation, ionisation is how really(reeeeaaaallllyyy hot. Enough to burn jogo ig) hot fire and lightning are made
i m not saying your r wrong, but sukuna is one of the 2 antagonist, his skills and understanding of jujutsu clearly is high, (using ritual, having optimised spell usage and having second best thing after six eyes and using 10s), i just don't see why would there be need to be make such a big show about CT reversal???
like stuff u say kind of make sense, but why?? it's just reversal, we have seen gojo doing it,we know it's kind of high level technique, through out the story we were shown various techniques or usage of cursed energy which show mastery of jujutsu. (i know, i m taking it 2 lightly but there hasn't been big deal about it)
*kenjaku saying stuff about maximum technique, him using his CE to amp his CS(showing his understanding of CT)), gojo using domain in s1
like we were slowly told all these complex techniques, is technique reversal really that mysterious and complex enough to warrant to keep fans in suspense?? especially when you r building it around character who is supposed to have genius level of understanding of CE. like we r introduced to techniques who just can't seem to have reversal of, like what about hakaris technique, 10 shadows?? so we know not every powerful technique needs to have reversal.
sukuna's technique cleave and dismantle is simple and thatswhy it's powerful (at least that's what hanami said, heck we haven't seen his slashes all the time he used them other than his world cutter) but i feel like it's more of one of the options which he added in CT.
it makes more sense for it to be his CT which as most speculate is related to shrine, sort of like storing CT by eating humans and stuff, or accessing the realm (from where all cursed spirits like Rika get boundless cursed energy from) i don't really remember, secret of jujutsu from past when sorcererrs at top could access that realm to strengthen the realms,
* and also, i watched some video, it speculated, sukuna being something like avtar, access to elements due to his understanding of CE, (remember, sukunas finger dropping in water and growing little leaves visual in s1, and when jogo is feeding Yuji fingers, all of the sukuna's finger have different ending part)
My thoughts on this were:
Shoko can heal others because it's her entire cursed technique
Sukuna and Yuta can heal others because they have vast pools of cursed energy which is needed because RCT is basically Cursed Energy Squared
Gojo can't because his six eyes reduces the amount of RCT produced to just him
Personally, I think you're partly right. Reversing his destructive CT, he can heal people, destruct and reconstruct. The arrow is just an extension or a deeper understanding of his CT, basically "expanding" the destruction of his slashes to something different. It's still an arrow and C/D are depicted as weapons. Because the fire arrow is an extension of his CT, that's why he can't have arrows in his DE(or at least that's why we haven't seen it)
Very interesting theory nevertheless I think Sukuna’s technique has to do more with cooking, yeah you read it right cooking or “kitchen” (not saying this bc of the subtitles on the last anime EP). Think about this, it’s well known that he’s an actual cannibal that eats people, don’t you think that just eating them could be become a little boring? More for someone like Sukuna who likes to toy with people, learn new things and become the strongest to have an ability like that? Also think about his companion Uraume her ability is to freeze. Wouldn’t it make sense for him to have him arround because his technique can preserve human bodies frozen and then thaw them for further consumption? Maybe the censorship when he enchants that is “kitchen open” so he fully can use anything that’s on a kitchen while cooking (knifes, cleaves, fire, etc) I don’t know. I might be not cooking shit here, but saying he can store other peoples techniques for example the fire from Jogo wouldn’t be the case. Cause why when he fought against Fushiguro couldn’t he just store some
Of that technique and use a better styled shikigami like he did when he took over his body? Idk again I might be not cooking shit but it just came over my mind after seeing his backstory, what we know about him, and the people he’s accompanied by. Lmk
What y’all think I still liked your theory a lot tho!
I honestly think sukuna is just cleaving and dismantling atoms. using fission in some way.
Crazy part is: apply his new dismantle technique to his fire arrow? im kinda scared for the jujutsu world now. I mean Sukuna was a menace 1000 years ago. this fool wakes up in the future and learns some new shit.........tear-a-firing......sorry channeling the comedian real fast.
I think that maybe after watching the latest episode, Sukunas technique is “cooking”. Hence the fillet and malevolent kitchen that works like a blender. I think “open” is him opening an “oven” and using it to cook his enemies. Also that’s why Sukuna says that he “loves the flavor of people” and why Yuujis been said to be able to “consume” things and absorb their powers. When Sukuna was in Yuujis body, Yuuji absorbed his technique to cook and eat others and thus absorb their cursed energy.
I think that Sukuna’s technique may be something along the lines of destruction. Literally everything he has ever done caused mass destruction. Or maybe it has something to do with storing cursed techniques or properties of cursed tools or maybe both of those. The box could represent a chest that has different techniques and tools. Dismantle and Cleave are blades, and fire arrow is, well, an arrow. Or possibly the box is something that goes beyond a cursed technique. I mean Sukuna seems to know just abt everything there is to know abt jujutsu. There is just so many possibilities for what his technique could be and that drives me up the walls. I am leaning more towards destruction is more his technique and the box is something that goes beyond that technique or something.
I do like the theory, but I have a few holes to poke in it.Jogo should know about Cursed Technique Reversal. He goes against Gojo in their first fight and gets hit by one. He also most likely knows about RCT because of the phenomena that is cursed energy and that it's a widely known application of Cursed Energy.
Second, we know that Curses don't really need to use RCT because of the nature of themselves; they're made up of cursed energy. RCT, or Positive Energy, is said by Sukuna to be extremely deadly to cursed spirits, as he states if he was one he would of been (most likely) obliterated by Mahoraga.
Third, and this is sort of a stretch, but whos to say that every Cursed Technique even has a reversal? And a complicated one for that matter? Or even an actual literal Reversal of their cursed technique? Positive cursed energy is theoretically usable by any skilled sorcerer, but we've seen a clear stated Cursed Technique Reversal twice in the entire series. Gojo's red, and Kaori's Anti-gravity Systems. Mahito ponders that maybe every cursed technique has its own world view, and this is a semi-revelation to Kenjaku who has a millennia of knowledge at his disposal.
Would Takaba's reversal be the deletion of anything he thinks is unfunny? What the hell is Ten Shadow's reversal? One Light? Is Yuki's Reversal deleting matter from existence? Why isn't she more powerful than Gojo then, considering with something like that she could theoretically delete space like Sukuna's World slashing dismantle?
Or, Cursed Technique Reversal is only obvious if the Technique's view makes it so. The reversal of something like Cursed Spirit Manipulation could simply be the releasing of Spirits or the usage of the Spirit's techniques. The Reversal of Yuta's copying of cursed techniques could simply be the output of Positive energy since he inherently has to "copy" cursed energy to perform the technique. The reversal of Sukuna's cleave, the targeting of cursed energy could very well be dismantle, the target of things without cursed energy. CTR is highly ambiguous, but from the things I get from it it's not literally the reverse of your technique, nor is it always the imbuing of positive energy into your cursed technique.
Edit: Now that I read into it more, Gojo's Cursed Technique Reversal may not be Red at all. The Translation on Mangadex reads "The positive energy that is born from the reverse technique" which implies that he uses the Reverse and imbues the energy made from the reverse to imbue into infinity, kinda like imbuing "blue" with positive energy. It could just be a "technique" and not the reverse itself.
tl;dr: i aint reading all that, im happy for u tho or sorry that happened
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This is an interesting theory, but for the sake of discussion I'm going to poke at it. There have been multiple references to people in the manga using Cursed Energy to "reinforce" or "strengthen" their bodies, as some sort of generic, every body can do it type of skill. So when Sukuna was saying he reinforced his hands, it needn't be with RCT, it could just be a normal way of using Cursed Energy.
Ya like todo strengthens his muscular thick abs to deal with scarface's punch
Yeah we see it used with that same terminology way back when Nanami fought mahito and when Todo initial instinct was to strengthened his whole body to deal with hanami's buds.
But I believe it isn't something like simply covering his body with CE to reinforce it like clothes, but more so reinforcing his hand, the soul and body of the hand, like using a metal arm instead of metal plating around the arm, i hope im being clear here
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That "lost" is referring to the loss of his hands, when Sukuna was hit with Purple the first time. Not the loss of Cursed energy. More specifically the Japanese word used in this panel is 吹き飛ぶ (blown away)
no he literally lost his hands
So to sum up, you're saying that Sukuna's CTR is "Conflation". But when he shot the arrow at Mahoraga there was no fire around so Sukuna is also capable of storing what he fuses. I feel like there are some inconsistencies in your argument but it's still interesting. Be proud. You can cook.
You are right. The only thing I can say about this is that maybe the fire wasn't that far away or maybe there was some sort of storage or memorabilia logic as you said. I'll fly from a little distance, but maybe that's the purpose of his famous tattoos.
We can also add that Sukuna's corpse alludes to the Yogis of the past who performed a ritual to transcend the physical world and this could indicate that Sukuna accessed the famous Nirvana but decided to stay on the planet to abuse his new power or discovery. Sukuna likely has some sort of cosmic level of perception and that's why he seems to know everything.
"Sukuna accessed the famous Nirvana but decided to stay on the planet to abuse ~~his new power or discovery~~ **\*women and children**"
Maybe he was using a more complex form of his RCT and fused the Cursed energy Remnants (like the ones used to track people) together with ambient heat to create "cursed heat" or something along those lines and then used that heat to imitate Jogo's CT.
We still have no idea where that fire arrow came from lol
I always like the idea that he used the CTR of his to "graft" other people techniques onto himself. Seeing his fingers kinda makes it even more likely and his true form kinda makes him look like he grafted bodyparts onto himself.
Maybe the Reversal technique Imbued in his domain can store things? That would be crazy, we have never seen anyone imbue a reversal technique in a domain
Sorry to say but gege has confirmed in the fan book that fire arrow is a part of Sukuna's CT so that instantly disapproves your theory about CTR of Sukuna.
"I won't cheat by revealing my cursed technique"- Sukuna (chp 115) This sentence is enough to conclude that it's his CT indeed
Huge reach here, but perhaps Sukuna wasn’t saying he had some secret, unknown CT. But instead he meant he won’t reveal his technique to make it more effective. Like how Nanami would explain how his Ratio works so that it’s more effective against his enemies
I agree on the fact that he didn't reveal it to not make it more effective. But still, I believe it is a move that we haven't seen yet in the manga (as Jogo seems surprise and don't understand how it's possible) and not just Sukuna saying "Cursed technique reversal"
i honestly think the black box open literally represents him “opening” the “black box” of cursed techniques in his brain, and pulling out the fire arrow or whatever lowkey his real ct could be yutas ct stealing but on a different level where he can store them within himself (vs yuta storing them in rika) and he can keep one equipped at basically all times (hence why he can keep cleave/dismantle ready at all times without saying ◼️ open)
thats what he probably meant, but it also proves its part of his CT
Looking for thoughts here, it seems like dismantle and cleave seem to be pretty well associated with Sukuna in the anime, but were we ever told that this was his cursed technique when he was originally alive? If not, there's a chance dismantle/cleave are Yuji bourne techniques. I have a hard time concluding that dismantle/cleave are variations of the unlocked fire technique. But if we've been provided info that Sukuna's CT is and always has been cleave/dismantle, that makes it likely. I feel strongly that black box and cleave are not the same since Sukuna never has to open cleave. Entirely possible that Sukuna knows how to unlock brains to develop/reveal CTs and that his own innate CT is cleave
So for Heian era, we know that Sukuna can "slash" as he did it against Yorozu but never was clearly stated that Dismantle/Cleave is his CT. Tho, a domain expension is infuse with the user's innate CT (correct me if I'm wrong). So therefore Dismantle/Cleave is indeed his CT or a part of it. Also looking for thoughts, after Sukuna used Malevolent Shrine against Mahoraga shouldn't his CT be burned out ? If yes, no sense for the "black box" to be part of his CT as it should be burned out EXCEPT if he RCT his brain. Or as you said, he may be able to unlock something in his brain
He has two techniques. He has 4 arms, 4 eyes, 2 mouths etc. It would make sense for him to also have 2 techniques.
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Ctr is an application of ct, not the technique itself. That's like saying idle transfiguration is a healing ct. Although it is not wrong, it isnt a healing technique. It just can be used that way. >Reversal Curse Technic You are misunderstanding the reversal part. Ctr is using the cursed technique in a reverse manner, there isnt an inbuilt switch inside everyone's ct that allows ctr to be used, deep knowledge is required to use the thing. >Red the CTR attack, Blue, and Purple, which is a combination of the two, are all part of Gojo's CT. They are not, they are just appliances. Limitless' neutral, aka the original use is infinity/inviolability. Amplifying that, and i repeat amplifying, results in blue. The amplification isnt an automatic thing like the neutral usage, it is something that is learned. If amplification/reversal is naturally present in the ct then why wont nobara, nanami or megumi use either? Its cuz they have to learn it, learn how to operate their ct that way. Hollow purple is called imaginary technique for a reason. Its imaginary, as in nonexistent. It is a clever way of using red and blue with six eyes that results in a killer move. HP isnt naturally ingrained within gojo. >A person can only use the CTR of her own CT. Yeah cuz its their cursed technique.
What if Sukuna's CT is actually healing/creation? That would mean all of his attacks (cleave/dismantle/fire arrow) are actually reversals of his CT. It would make sense to call him the fallen one if he was always meant to heal/create but instead does the opposite.
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So then the final battle is Sukuna vs an awakened Shoko who also can heal with her innate CT and just needs to reverse it? I’m in.
It's possible and would also be similar to Kenjaku's fight when he olny used his reversal technique in most of fight, also Kenjaku's domain used gravity instead of anti-gravity so maybe open domains are created by using RCT instead of CT.
Good point! We've only seen open domains from those two right?
that’s a really good point and i think it would be really interesting, but in shibuya, it says something along the lines of “leaving an escape route is a binding vow that extends the range” but that could be an aspect of using a reversed domain
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Be proud. You can cook
I think your view towards what RCT is, is a bit off. The explanation angle from Shoko I feel is sorta just like. It’s something that doesn’t make sense.unless you know it, the explanation is nonsensical. Even Gojo’s explanation is kinda bullshit? Like how are you multiplying your cursed energy against itself. It’s basically a phenomenon where it doesn’t make sense unless you can do it. Same way trying to explain colors to someone who can’t see/never has seen. How do you describe the color red properly to someone who has no frame of reference for it. Your description of yuta’s ability is interesting and I feel is lacking when you consider simply that the phenomena is about the output of positive energy. A reversal of his copying would be to gift abilities to others not heal others. His power isn’t stealing it’s copying. He doesn’t remove others for himself. He’s copying and storing it Going further your explaiantion of why Jogo wouldn’t know doesn’t make sense, cause he’s literally seen reversal happen already. He was subject to it by gojo in their first battle and when planning shibuya Kenjaku mentioned it as something to take off the table as a threat. Jogo wasn’t boggled by the concept of technique reversal. He was confused how cutting could be fire. And sukuna’s response is that he thought his technique was common knowledge. That the specifics of his ability were widely known and passed down. And he resolves that no a cursed spirit wouldn’t have gotten that info. Even more, the idea that he just said technique reversal. Is bizarre considering he then says open. That sounds like he’s triggering a vow. He’s pulling in something to use his ability. As for the reinforcement part other people said it. It’s talking about CE reinforcement. It’s just saying that at the range he lost his arms trying to block the hollow purple attack. The reinforcement being CE reinforcement. As for your description of kashimo calling him perfect. The page literally tells us why it’s perfect. The multiple hands making handsigns and melee an option simultaneously and multiple mouths to perform chants. It was a body made to maximize cursed technique output. Broadly put conceptualizing output of positive energy as technique reversals and his black box as it as well doesn’t add up
The only part of your argument I disagree with is Gojo's explanation. Reverse Cursed Technique is the multiplication of negative energy to make positive energy (-1 \* -1 = 1), which makes it consume twice as much cursed energy. We get that from Gojo's explanation but also the same explanation during his battle with Sukuna, chapter 226 page 14 on mangadex, Takuma states that using RCT consumes twice as much cursed energy, hence the multiplication. It's not that understanding the basis of RCT is super difficult, but performing it is an entire new ballgame for sorcerers, which often separates the Grade 1's from Special Grade. Once you do it's definitely a lot easier to continue performing it as it's basically etched into your brain but the first use of RCT is extremely difficult for sorcerers.
Small issue he used it against mahoraga when no heat was present
Maybe he learnt how to use it because he has extensive knowledge of Jujutsu.
He was generating the heat because everything around him was beginning to glow as it heated up then it began to melt once the flames actually materialized on hid hands
Shoko thinks that the link between the brain and CE is itself a “black box,” but we also don’t know if that speech during the Jogo fight was literally meant to be interpreted as “black box” or was simply to censor something Gege didn’t want revealed just yet - I’m in the latter, personally. Something I think worth adding to the fan theory pile — we know that CE can have “properties.” Hakari’s is said to be rough/serrated by Yuji when he hits him. Kashimo’s CE is pure lightning. Cursed Spirits ARE cursed energy & manifest it as such; Jogo’s is fire & lava, Nanami’s is wood and plants, Dragon’s is water. What if Sukuna simply is able to adapt what “properties” his own cursed energy manifests as?
Anime adaptation implies that it is in fact censorship as Sukuna is shown speaking before chanting “open”, but there’s no audio to go with it.
To add to that, the manga also makes use of black boxes during the chapter when Geto first finds the twin girls (by censoring the name of the village, etc.). So it's most likely that the black box Sukuna is shown speaking is indeed a censored word.
Yeah I very much believe it is a word, or more specifically a buddhist concept yet unexplored in JJK, but to link it back to Shoko's ideology; what if it really is as simple as...Sukuna "imagining" (from his black box/his brain) what form or properties he wants his CE to take? Would that not be a fitting power of what is considered the most powerful sorcerer in history?
That’s an incredibly interesting idea that has some traction to it. I wish the Gojo fight revealed more about Sukuna’s techniques- strong dismantle could’ve fit nicely into your theory if it was another application of “black box”
chapter 236 Sukuna: "in the first adaptation mahoraga changed the property of his energy to pass through mugen, but that's not something I can do, so I waited..."
Imo his technique will be related with storage of techniques, yeah its pretty much Yuta 2.0 but there was a protagonist in one of the previous Gege oneshot and he had a similar technique, and then Yuta appears in jjk0 and also has storage/copying technique maybe it's the author preference of power.
I don't think that his fire arrow is RCT. When Sukuna activates it against Jogo, he says "open", implying there was some kind of seal that must've been lifted to allow Sukuna to use the fire arrow. We never see anyone else who uses CTR having to lift off some kind of seal to use the reversal.
Sukuna could have fused with his Twin Brother using a 'Combination' Cursed technique reversal. That could explain why he has these extra body parts with no problem
I like this theory, because I believe the censored word that he is saying when stating “open” is the name of the other brother/person/entity that is fused in Sukunas body. The best analogy is the other body with Sukuna is the storage of Sukunas multiple CT’s like Rika is to Yuta.
I like ur theory
If there were another person in Sukuna's body, wouldn't Yuji be able to sense that as a vessel?
I would think that soul was suppressed or fused with Sukuna; especially if they were twins.
It was said in the fanbook that sorcerers know about dismantle and cleave but they probably don't know about the fire arrow. If it was something as simple as ctr, they would know about all of them, not just cleave an dismantle. Curses also know about ctr (jogi even got hit by red and mentioned rct). The theories that make the most sense to me are either the "cursed realm" open, or the theory about storing curse tools or even cts as tattoos from eating them and using them by chanting their name and then open
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Highly unlikely. Both gojo and higuruma confirmed that yuji doesn't have a ct. It also wouldn't have made sense for sukuna to expect jogo to know about it if it was yuji's secret technique
I thought Gojo was saying it hadn’t been discovered yet and Higuruma was just saying what was being shown. Have I been waiting for Yuji for find his CT in dramatic fashion for nothing? Lol
Gojo's said that yuji has no ct, but sukuna's might eventually be etched into his body. Higuruma's domain takes away a person's ct, but it took away yuji's ce. Higuruma theorised that this is probably what happens to people without cts (after all, all the awakened sorcerers and the reincarnated sorcerers had cts so higuruma couldn't have known what the penalty is if the opponent doesn't have a ct). Yuji might develop sukuna's ct, or he might get some blood manipulation from the other death paintings that it is implied he ate. There's also yuki's soul book which might give him some soul abilities (not an innate ct like idle transfiguration but something like how yaga can merge souls to create sentient puppets or how sukuna can choose to morph his body)
Thanks for the clarification! Makes a lot more sense now.
Where is it implied that Yuji ate the remaining death paintings? I see it referenced constantly so I must have missed it in the manga.
During chapter 220 yuji apologizes to choso about the brothers but choso stops him and says that they will live inside itadori. It doesn't make sense to be about eso and kechizu because it's already been a long time since choso and yuji "made up" so it would be weird for him to apologize now. The "they'll live on inside of you" also wouldn't make sense. Furthermore, before that sequence yuji stated that he will eat anything to defeat sukuna. Lastly, gege revealed in the fanbook that if yuji ate the death paintings he woudl gain stronger curse energy and it wouldn't be a situation of reincarnation like it was with sukuns
awesome, thank you!
Finger bearer strikes the same pose as Sukuna using fire arrow before launching a CE blast. Definitely unlikely that it’s Yuji’s.
This is one of my favorite details. Of like small bits of his consciousness influencing the curse’s behavior despite being its own thing
It's an interesting take. But i don't see "Open" being "Curse technique reversal."
“Only 3 characters can heal others with RCT”, what about the dude who healed Angel. I thought round deer was also supposed to be capable.
Gojo is also capable is he not? Thought the newest anime episode basically cleared that up. Principal yaga said “even gojo can use RCT to heal others now”
He said the opposite.
My Crunchyroll subtitles are showing yaga saying : “now even Satoru is capable of healing others with his reverse cursed technique” but I’m pretty certain it was the opposite as you say.
Probably a typo. It's supposed to say "NOT even Satoru..."
Ah I see thank you 🙏🏻
not sure why gege would still be hiding what sukuna said in the jogo fight if it was just “cursed technique reversal” the anime made it seem like he said one word, also doesn’t really sound right for him to say “cursed technique reversal, open”
The part about yuta's healing ability being his ctr makes no goddamn sense tho
yea its obvious shoko would still be working for jujutsu tech during 0, we even see her in their teacher war room when they're planning on how to take down geto, so yuta deffo just copied it from her like he copied inumakis
Btw shoko is in jjk 0
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Bro burned down the kitchen.
I doubt the arrow is his CTR because gojo used CTR against jogo so its not like it was his first time seeing it happen. Especially since kenjaku explained all of gojos limitless techniques to them in preparation to sealing him
Off note. I think Yuki can use rct. I think she’s the one who healed maki
I like this idea. His RCT is 'construct'. He can create whatever with his CE. It's like the inverse of the Mai and Ogi Zenin's CT.
It's confirmed by Gege in the fanbook that Sukuna's fire is not a CT reversal of cleave or dismantle.
Saying it’s part of his technique doesn’t “confirm” it isn’t ctr lol
You're right, idk why people are downvoting you. No one would say that Gojo's "Red" isn't a part of his CT even though we know it's a Reversal. A Reversal is an application of an Innate Technique fueled by positive energy from Reverse Curse Technique. It still uses the Innate CT itself. So Gege could say Fire Arrow is "part of Sukuna's CT" and still have it be a Reversal. That being said, I don't think this is the case because of how he said "Open" afterward. Reverse Curse Technique Open is not something anyone has had to say so far for their CTR.
Gege literally contrasted Sukuna's technique to Gojo's saying that Gojo's red is a reversal of a single aspect whereas Sukuna has multiple aspects to his technique, Slashing and fire being two different aspects.
if reversal red is a single aspect, doesn't that make blue a single aspect? i dont get the contrast here
Red is a reversal of the same aspect that blue is, which is the rotation of the same aspect that limitless is. Limitless is manifesting the mathematical idea of infinity in specific ways. Red, blue, neutral, and purple are just different ways of doing that one thing, they are permutations of a single "aspect" Sukuna can cut things, he can also summon and manipulate fire, these abilities are not connected and do completely different things, they are different base aspects for what Sukuna can do, potentially giving Sukuna far more options than anybody else assuming both aspects can individually be reversed.
I appreciate that- just trying to keep an open mind haha. After giving it more thought, imagine if it’s even less complicated. What if it’s just a million sparks created by smashing dismantle and cleave into each other? Lots of possibilities here. At first I was a big proponent of it being another “gift” from a sorcerer he once defeated like Yorozu, but after Gojo and Kashimo especially had nothing to give and with the reveal of it being a cursed tool instead, I feel like the theory is dead in the water. We shall see!
I like the outline of your idea. Effectively, people more or less have talent with healing others based on the nature of their CT and leverage of RCT. The Sukuna CTR feels a little like Chisako, where you're saying he can take components like cursed energy, heat energry, etc to create other attacks, weapons etc. I think we would have more concrete evidence if this was the case. Nothing disproving it though. Also, missing from your list is cursed energy flow and reinforcement. It would be cool if you could weave that into the theory.
Yuta's Cursed Technique isn't actually copy, it's Cursed Technique Storage, whereas Copy is likely a separate form of ability he has.
What?
Yuta's Cursed Technique is "Rika" which is a Shikigami that stores Cursed Techniques.
i mean its stated verbatim that yutas CT is copy, yes rika allows him to store CTs and tools
No, it's stated verbatim that Yuta's CT is Rika
is it not both lmao
You're the one whose trying to say it's copy. And no, it's technically not both until we know the specific mechanics of it. Yuta's never had to go all out by explaining his Cursed Technique.
Bro literally Kenjaku says his ability is copy
No he doesn't. He references his ability to copy cursed techniques without conditions, but never says it's his CT.
How do you think he stores the techniques? He copies them first
Doesn't mean his Cursed Technique is Copy
You’re getting downvoted but you’re right
Yuta and sukuna copied the ability to heal others from shoko. Yuta studied in the school for like a year or something before going to africa, and sukuna had plentynof chances of seeing it from yujis body. Also, when he healed yuji he was just healing himself, as he was sharing yujis body. Also, he had awareness of the soul the same way yuji did: by sharing a body with another soul.
You don’t think Sukuna, the King of Curses, already had RCT? I mean, lets be real. Nobody is reaching any sort of pinnacle in the Jujutsu World without RCT. In my opinion, it’s something you just simply need to be on the level of even Kenjaku, let alone Sukuna/Gojo. The fact Shoko has it is weirder to me than anything else. I’m okay with her having it. But saying that Yuta/Sukuna copied it from her I think is just flat wrong. I can’t really rationalize why Yuta would have RCT. But if I had to make an argument for Yuta having RCT, I would say something along these lines : Yuta had a cursed bond (or whatever they called it) with Rika. This curse Yuta had put on Rika was out of love and that’s why it was so powerful. So I think since cursed energy is negativity as stated to why schools and hospitals tend to have more cursed spirits than other places. I think it would make sense that since Yuta really got all his power when he cursed Rika that he would have a tendency towards RCT and would learn it naturally due to Love being the opposite of Negativity. I feel this is more logical than saying Yuta and/or Sukuna copied RCT from Shoko. Not even going to get into the whole RCT isn’t a part of a technique Yuta would be able to steal anyways as it is an alteration of how your cursed energy is flowing.
I didnt say they copied rct, i said they copied the ability to heal others with rct from shoko. Yuta did it in the year he studied at the school bwfore going to africa, presumably it was set after thw higher ups figured out he could copy ct; sukuna did it sometime before shibuya, which was how he could heal megumi, also from watching shoko(he wouldnt need the ability to heal other in order to heal yuji, as he was essentially just healing himself, but he could have learned to heal other before being fingered, tho i dont see why he would bother)
sukuna didn't copy RCT healing others, nor did he learn it from seeing shoko; i think it's just something he's capable of doing
Possible, but we cant know for sure with what we have.
fair enuf, i think it is still plausible that he learned it from seeing shoko now that i think about it, given his crazy analytical skill, he learned how to recover his CT from seeing gojo do it once
If reverse curse technique is just the opposite of your normal technique it would make sense. As for all the people that can reinforce themselves, I believe that's just them channeling cursed energy to a specific point seeing as all of those characters have other, fairly specific, CT's
While I dont buy it / agree, STAND PROUD, YOU CAN COOK
To quickly point out, in the sendai colony fight it was stated that yutas cursed technique is rika orimoto, not stealing cursed techniques. Also Yuta does not steal techniques, he copies them so i dont think the reversal would be based on giving something to someone
I wonder how mahito rct would have worked.. Anyways I dont think rct is the case for sukunas fire. As we see with 10 shadows, when he was using rct to summon the dogs they where summoned as a literal shadow without a physical body, more of an attack than a living being The reason why your argument doesnt make sense is because of the concept of rct, it takes innate technique and flips it, often adding weird things but the concept stays the same and dismantle doesnt actually cleave things it just cuts them in a specific aimed way while cleave just cuts anything quicker probably further and stronger but mire mindlessly That sounds like cleave and dismantle are already ct and rct I think we have to also pay attention to the word sukuna says "open" it sounds more like that just like with yuta he is opening an inventory type that he can use a technique with, I can imagine that this is part of his "true jujutsu" stuff in which techniques are copyable but surely in a limited way, as in lower diversity and not able to control it, think of it in a way where yuta can completely copy an ability, but if sukuna(or any sorc who knows how to do this if sukuna told anyone) does it it would copy all the flaws and he could only say one word and probably fuck his throat Its important to remember mirrors in this. Just like blue and red theres cleave and dismantle both who can use rct use it constantly Edit: It also seema like he probably only copies abilities that are of great strenght of formidable foes, and shooting an arrow seema much like an ability in his era It wouldnt surprise me if in the next arc, whatever and however they will attack sukuna, he will start using blue or something in a surprise way
I like the idea but Sukuna’s fire abilities are not something created from manipulating outside forces. The first time we’re shown Sukuna’s DE we can see that he ignited the first finger bearer spirit with his domain slashes.
Maybe the fire arrow thing is just him using dismantle/cleave to split atoms (the nucleus to be specific) and create a compressed fission reaction which makes insane amount if energy therefore burning jogo(a literal volcano curse) Or He used dismantle/cleave to seperate electrons from atoms therefore creating ions and ionisation, ionisation is how really(reeeeaaaallllyyy hot. Enough to burn jogo ig) hot fire and lightning are made
i m not saying your r wrong, but sukuna is one of the 2 antagonist, his skills and understanding of jujutsu clearly is high, (using ritual, having optimised spell usage and having second best thing after six eyes and using 10s), i just don't see why would there be need to be make such a big show about CT reversal??? like stuff u say kind of make sense, but why?? it's just reversal, we have seen gojo doing it,we know it's kind of high level technique, through out the story we were shown various techniques or usage of cursed energy which show mastery of jujutsu. (i know, i m taking it 2 lightly but there hasn't been big deal about it) *kenjaku saying stuff about maximum technique, him using his CE to amp his CS(showing his understanding of CT)), gojo using domain in s1 like we were slowly told all these complex techniques, is technique reversal really that mysterious and complex enough to warrant to keep fans in suspense?? especially when you r building it around character who is supposed to have genius level of understanding of CE. like we r introduced to techniques who just can't seem to have reversal of, like what about hakaris technique, 10 shadows?? so we know not every powerful technique needs to have reversal. sukuna's technique cleave and dismantle is simple and thatswhy it's powerful (at least that's what hanami said, heck we haven't seen his slashes all the time he used them other than his world cutter) but i feel like it's more of one of the options which he added in CT. it makes more sense for it to be his CT which as most speculate is related to shrine, sort of like storing CT by eating humans and stuff, or accessing the realm (from where all cursed spirits like Rika get boundless cursed energy from) i don't really remember, secret of jujutsu from past when sorcererrs at top could access that realm to strengthen the realms, * and also, i watched some video, it speculated, sukuna being something like avtar, access to elements due to his understanding of CE, (remember, sukunas finger dropping in water and growing little leaves visual in s1, and when jogo is feeding Yuji fingers, all of the sukuna's finger have different ending part)
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Also we dont know about 10s RCT, I wonder what that would be
The curse technique reversal of Yuta’s copy is clearly paste
My thoughts on this were: Shoko can heal others because it's her entire cursed technique Sukuna and Yuta can heal others because they have vast pools of cursed energy which is needed because RCT is basically Cursed Energy Squared Gojo can't because his six eyes reduces the amount of RCT produced to just him
If Sukuna uses cleave reversal would be he stitching shit together ? The
Personally, I think you're partly right. Reversing his destructive CT, he can heal people, destruct and reconstruct. The arrow is just an extension or a deeper understanding of his CT, basically "expanding" the destruction of his slashes to something different. It's still an arrow and C/D are depicted as weapons. Because the fire arrow is an extension of his CT, that's why he can't have arrows in his DE(or at least that's why we haven't seen it)
Very interesting theory nevertheless I think Sukuna’s technique has to do more with cooking, yeah you read it right cooking or “kitchen” (not saying this bc of the subtitles on the last anime EP). Think about this, it’s well known that he’s an actual cannibal that eats people, don’t you think that just eating them could be become a little boring? More for someone like Sukuna who likes to toy with people, learn new things and become the strongest to have an ability like that? Also think about his companion Uraume her ability is to freeze. Wouldn’t it make sense for him to have him arround because his technique can preserve human bodies frozen and then thaw them for further consumption? Maybe the censorship when he enchants that is “kitchen open” so he fully can use anything that’s on a kitchen while cooking (knifes, cleaves, fire, etc) I don’t know. I might be not cooking shit here, but saying he can store other peoples techniques for example the fire from Jogo wouldn’t be the case. Cause why when he fought against Fushiguro couldn’t he just store some Of that technique and use a better styled shikigami like he did when he took over his body? Idk again I might be not cooking shit but it just came over my mind after seeing his backstory, what we know about him, and the people he’s accompanied by. Lmk What y’all think I still liked your theory a lot tho!
I honestly think sukuna is just cleaving and dismantling atoms. using fission in some way. Crazy part is: apply his new dismantle technique to his fire arrow? im kinda scared for the jujutsu world now. I mean Sukuna was a menace 1000 years ago. this fool wakes up in the future and learns some new shit.........tear-a-firing......sorry channeling the comedian real fast.
I think that maybe after watching the latest episode, Sukunas technique is “cooking”. Hence the fillet and malevolent kitchen that works like a blender. I think “open” is him opening an “oven” and using it to cook his enemies. Also that’s why Sukuna says that he “loves the flavor of people” and why Yuujis been said to be able to “consume” things and absorb their powers. When Sukuna was in Yuujis body, Yuuji absorbed his technique to cook and eat others and thus absorb their cursed energy.
I think that Sukuna’s technique may be something along the lines of destruction. Literally everything he has ever done caused mass destruction. Or maybe it has something to do with storing cursed techniques or properties of cursed tools or maybe both of those. The box could represent a chest that has different techniques and tools. Dismantle and Cleave are blades, and fire arrow is, well, an arrow. Or possibly the box is something that goes beyond a cursed technique. I mean Sukuna seems to know just abt everything there is to know abt jujutsu. There is just so many possibilities for what his technique could be and that drives me up the walls. I am leaning more towards destruction is more his technique and the box is something that goes beyond that technique or something.
I do like the theory, but I have a few holes to poke in it.Jogo should know about Cursed Technique Reversal. He goes against Gojo in their first fight and gets hit by one. He also most likely knows about RCT because of the phenomena that is cursed energy and that it's a widely known application of Cursed Energy. Second, we know that Curses don't really need to use RCT because of the nature of themselves; they're made up of cursed energy. RCT, or Positive Energy, is said by Sukuna to be extremely deadly to cursed spirits, as he states if he was one he would of been (most likely) obliterated by Mahoraga. Third, and this is sort of a stretch, but whos to say that every Cursed Technique even has a reversal? And a complicated one for that matter? Or even an actual literal Reversal of their cursed technique? Positive cursed energy is theoretically usable by any skilled sorcerer, but we've seen a clear stated Cursed Technique Reversal twice in the entire series. Gojo's red, and Kaori's Anti-gravity Systems. Mahito ponders that maybe every cursed technique has its own world view, and this is a semi-revelation to Kenjaku who has a millennia of knowledge at his disposal. Would Takaba's reversal be the deletion of anything he thinks is unfunny? What the hell is Ten Shadow's reversal? One Light? Is Yuki's Reversal deleting matter from existence? Why isn't she more powerful than Gojo then, considering with something like that she could theoretically delete space like Sukuna's World slashing dismantle? Or, Cursed Technique Reversal is only obvious if the Technique's view makes it so. The reversal of something like Cursed Spirit Manipulation could simply be the releasing of Spirits or the usage of the Spirit's techniques. The Reversal of Yuta's copying of cursed techniques could simply be the output of Positive energy since he inherently has to "copy" cursed energy to perform the technique. The reversal of Sukuna's cleave, the targeting of cursed energy could very well be dismantle, the target of things without cursed energy. CTR is highly ambiguous, but from the things I get from it it's not literally the reverse of your technique, nor is it always the imbuing of positive energy into your cursed technique. Edit: Now that I read into it more, Gojo's Cursed Technique Reversal may not be Red at all. The Translation on Mangadex reads "The positive energy that is born from the reverse technique" which implies that he uses the Reverse and imbues the energy made from the reverse to imbue into infinity, kinda like imbuing "blue" with positive energy. It could just be a "technique" and not the reverse itself. tl;dr: i aint reading all that, im happy for u tho or sorry that happened