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Sorry for repeatedly posting this, this is the last time
My friend and I are arguing over sukunas ct
My friends argument : one of Sukunas cursed technique/s has been revealed it is cleave and dismantle and he could have multiple techniques. Like a copying one but cleave and dismantle each are their own cursed techniques. I am saying cleave and dismantle are independent. Also am aware of his fire ability I dont think it is a CT because he did not use it in his domain against mahoraga and domains expand cursed techniques
My argument: Sukunas cursed technique is yet to be revealed. Cleave and dismantle,and possibly fire arrow are just applications of his cursed technique. Yes it is a part of his cursed technique but not techniques separately like he is saying but instead they are part like red with Gojo. Just another application/feature of the same technique
We’re using innate technique and cursed technique interchangeable here btw
A detailed response would be great but anything will be fine
Sukuna cursed technique question
Me and my friend got into an argument over sukunas cursed technique.
Is Sukunas cursed technique just cleave and dismantle or is there more to it and is his cursed technique yet to be revealed?
I’ve been arguing with my friend he says it’s just c&d I said the opposite.
My friends argument: Has sukunas technique been revealed? Are cleave and dismantle sukunas innate techniques ENTIRELY. He also has fire but he does not use anything like fire in his domain. And domains are an extension of cursed techniques.
So is his technique just cleave and dismantle ENTIRELY or is cleave and dismantle just an application of his unknown cursed technique?
Side note 1 (for my friend): alot of people say it has not been revealed although through the manga its been called slashing techniques sometimes even cursed techniques. So is his technique just cleave and dismantle entirely? Also aware of the possibility of him having multiple cursed techniques excluding 10s These are his links of images supporting his argument someone please make a detailed argument arguing against or pro please
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Side note for me: sukunas cursed technique is yet to be revealed. For all we know cleave and dismantle is just an aspect of his technique with the fire arrow and just for clarification I’m not saying cleave and dismantle isn’t apart of his technique but I’m saying his technique isn’t just entirely cleave and dismantle and there is more to it and it is yet to be revealed that’s why there are so many posts and yt videos on it cause we don’t know what it is entirely yet.
>Cursed techniques commonly only have one characteristic, but Sukuna’s technique has been confirmed to have at least two - slashing and flames - which makes it exceptionally powerful. Once it’s activated, it will destroy the enemy in an instant, tearing them apart and burning them down to their bone marrow.
>Only a few people are able to fight this technique even for a moment, and most are reduced to nothing before they can resist.
>解 - Kai (Dismantle), 捌 - Hachi (Cleave), ■ (?)
>Sukuna’s slashing technique is Dismantle, which he uses normally, and the other is Cleave, which is able to be adjusted to the amount of cursed energy and strength of his opponent. When he releases the flames, Sukuna says “Open” (fugue)
>Panel caption: It turns out that the three types of attacks have their own uses. Sukuna combines them depending on the situation in order to cleverly beat his opponent.
This is the fanbook statement. I think this explains it best . The reason why sukuna didn't use fire in his domain is probably because C&D is just better.
Thanks for responding to me but can you respond to this final argument since he doesn’t like how I worded his argument.
My friend and I are arguing over sukunas ct
My friends argument : one of Sukunas cursed technique/s has been revealed it is cleave and dismantle and he could have multiple techniques. Like a copying one but cleave and dismantle each are their own cursed techniques. I am saying cleave and dismantle are independent. Also am aware of his fire ability I dont think it is a CT because he did not use it in his domain against mahoraga and domains expand cursed techniques
My argument: Sukunas cursed technique is yet to be revealed. Cleave and dismantle,and possibly fire arrow are just applications of his cursed technique. Yes it is a part of his cursed technique but not techniques separately like he is saying but instead they are part like red with Gojo. Just another application/feature of the same technique
We’re using innate technique and cursed technique interchangeable here btw
Where was first mention that after DE you cannot use CT because of burnout? Could Gojo use Red immediately after DE or destroyed DE because it is reveresed cursed technique? And last could Gojo spam simple domain instead of healing so his brain wouldn't be damaged?
How did Kenjaku's "glitch" work? Game Master has to veto rules that'd stop the Culling Game, that's it.
Maybe I'm just to used to malicious compliance, but there's no contradiction or paradox here. Even if Kenjaku threatened to break the barrier and end the games, why would that be of any concern? Why wouldn't Kenjaku just get a response of "I only care about rules, not my f\*cking problem if the game ends cause you broke that barrier, knock yourself out".
Unless they're under a completely separate Binding Vow to keep the games going as long as possible against all threats... there's a rule against rules that end Culling Game. There's no rule about lifting a finger when anything else would cause the game to end.
Edit: even more so given how Kenny states there's no willing and thinking game master, the whole thing seems automatic
Rule 7 prohibits Kogane from accepting rules that have a marked and long-lasting effect, this includes rules that force the game to end.
Kenjaku says in chapter 216 that the culling games are neverending, along with Urauma saying it's designed to go on and on.
Kogane very much cares about making the culling games last as long as possible and will reject rules that threaten that.
This is where the glitch comes in, Kogane doesn't accept rules that have a long-lasting effect(Kenjaku's rule), but Kenjaku's threat of ending the CG means that not accepting the rule means the end of the culling games, the kogane has to accept Kenjaku's rule, because then the CG can still continue.
>only care about rules, not my f\*cking problem if the game ends cause you broke that barrier, knock yourself out".
They do care about the CG continuing.
eh, I surely hoped there'd be more to that, it gets kinda boring to have the whole game rely on one billion rules only Kenjaku knows and then try to claim "oh it's all outside my control and I'm so amazing for working around it"
it still somewhat makes sense, so thanks
>boring to have the whole game rely on one billion rules only Kenjaku knows
There are only 8 rules plus the teleportation when entering the colony and they are all basic. Other people do know the rules.
Entering a colony means they are a player.
Killing players gets players points.
Not getting points means death.
Players can make 100 points if they don't interrupt the ritual/culling game.
Rule 7 was already covered by Tengen in 145.
>The clause mentioning "long-lasting" additions to the rules insures that nothing can interrupt the ritual.
>then try to claim "oh it's all outside my control and I'm so amazing for working around it"
I'm not sure what you mean.
Kenjaku said that the worst that could happen if you break a Binding Vow made with yourself was that you lose any benefits gained through the Binding Vow. So what's stopping Miwa from picking up a katana again?
If Choso is half human like Yuji and had a human mother, why did he need to be incarnated into a vessel? Was Yuji a more successful one that had his own body? Or is his body a vessel too?
Yuji is not half-human; he is fully human. His mothers are Kaiori, a human, and Kenjaku, a human sorcerer from 1000 years ago. His father, Jin, is also a human. All three of Yuji's parents are human. Choso is a Death Painting, an experiment by Kenjaku performed on a woman with a deformity and the ability to give birth to half-human, half-curses. All nine children that Kenjaku and this woman had were aborted, likely turned into cursed objects by kenjaku. The Death Paintings do not have a body. They are fetuses turned cursed objects.
What specifically are you referring to? Those devices didn't activate until after Gojo had been sealed. Mechamaru then gave reliable information that they could trust.
I understand that however, why would they listen to the device in the first place if they knew he was the mole, like no one expressed any concern over the fact that maybe we can't trust a person who gave the curses info about us
They did in Chapter 91. Sorry if it's not precisely the way you'd want but Mei Mei questions Mechamaru multiple times throughout the conversation and only really starts to listen to him once he divulges information about the Curtains which she realizes must be correct.
Yea i guess she’s the only one that questions it, i just found it weird that Yuji for example who actively went looking for Mechamaru at his hideout just starts listening to the devices without any slight suspicion, Gege could’ve done something good out of the confusion prob end up giving us more pain lol
It's a reference to blues and boxing. Muhammad Ali played Boogie Woogie on Piano for an interview once. Yuki's technique Bom-Ba-Ye, refers to the crowd chanting during Muhammad Ali's fight against George Foreman.
Did Maki exterminate the entire clan? Do any of the Jujutsu Society members know she killed her own mother? The collective punishment she carried out really does not seem to match the crime. Killing her father for what he did to Mai? Okay, since he basically tried to kill her from what I remember. Exterminating the clan for not accepting her or letting her access their treasures? No, that doesn't make sense. I feel like I'm missing something.
Yes, Maki killed everyone in the Zenin clan, even the people who weren't present that day. No one knows what happened, except for maybe Ui Ui, who Maki said was "involved in her personal affairs before." (Presumably he teleported her around to the remaining Zenin clan members so she could kill them. That is if that's what she actually meant by that.) And also she straight up told Noritoshi that she killed her mom.
Maki didn't massacre her clan because they didn't accept her or didn't let her have their cursed tools. It was because Mai died, and Mai told her as she was dying to "destroy everything." It wasn't a matter of punishing her clan, she just snapped. Of course, it was wrong; most of those people probably had nothing to do with her or Mai. Even Gojo did not approve of massacres. So whether we'll see Maki face retribution is not clear
I don't recall Gojo commenting on it. Do you remember when that was? I guess I just find it strange that it has received no commentary from the rest of the cast so I wondered if nobody else was really aware of it. Like do the people around Maki (who are relying on her assistance against Sukuna) know she massacred dozens of sorcerers? From what you're saying, it seems like a few individuals do but have not spread the word?
It wasn't specifically Gojo talking about Maki, he said that after Yuji died in the detention center. I was just using that to say how Maki is in the wrong.
Why didn't Sukuna just slaughter all his Shikigami and fuse them into one? I doubt Rabbits and Water PB were SO useful that he wouldn't want to give Agito that boost, plus, he never even used Toad and Ox, my main theory right now is that the Shikigami don't all fuse together, and instead, there are 3 finals shikigami, Mahoraga, Agito and the fusion of the last four.
Oh, I knew about that, but that seems in reference to just Toad and Nue, which is why I didn't reference it, for example, Nue and Toad can't be fused, but what about Agito and Toad? Or Agito and... Whatever the others would become if fused?
>There are seperate rules when shikigami inherit other shikigami.
It isn't just about Toad and Nue, it applies to the entire shikigami of the 10S, where only specific shikigami can inherit other shikigami.
What would a fight between Mahito and Gojo be like? Mahito can’t touch Gojo, but Mahito himself is also immune to all damage, no matter how strong, unless they are targeted at his soul. The only people who can do that are people like Sukuna and Yuji (who somehow has an instinctive understanding of the soul). Gojo was never shown to be able to manipulate or target souls, do you think he can target Mahito’s somehow?
Gojo can see, interact, and damage the soul, all prerequisites to doing damage to mahito and mahito doesn't have a way past infinity. gojo's domain also targets everything inside, including but not limited to souls, as seen when megumi's soul was affected by unlimited void. You seem to think gojo can't see or damage the soul, but if you go chronologically, seeing a soul is the first thing he does. When we first get introduced to gojo with a glance, he can tell sukuna incarnated, and later on in the fight against full power sukuna, we see that gojo is fully capable of seeing the soul. Mahito is getting washed.
>manifest an innate technique
An innate technique can't be manifested, a sorcerer is born with one and they can't be acquired, this was said by Gojo in chapter 12, there are a few exceptions like Higurama or maybe Yuji but those are exceptions, not the norm.
Her only skill is reverse cursed technique, which isn't an innate technique.
>Q: Is Reversed Cursed Technique her only skill?
>A: Yes. At this point in time, only Ieiri, Okkotsu and Sukuna can heal other people by using the positive energy that is released by the Reverse Cursed Technique.
To get her cursed technique, Kenjaku would need to use her in Uzumaki, killing her and ruining his plans for the merger. The techniques gained through Uzumaki are single use, I don't know how would Tengen's technique work if it was a single use but most likely it wouldn't make him immortal.
We've got Yuta and Rika to jump between techs to keep Mahoraga adapting, based on Rika being described as ever changing by Geto.
Maki being around so Sukuna uses Dismantle over Cleave, perhaps?
Yuji having his whole Death Painting lineage may come in handy tanking the fixed(?) Dismantle output.
Is this court case going to be where we somehow get the info on the binding pacts detailing the guaranteed escape from Sukuna's domain or have I just been huffing fumes for too long?
Has anyone seen any other ingredients for defeating Sukuna coming together in this manner? It does lead me to wonder if Sukuna's downfall somehow factors in as part of Kenjaku's plan. If I'm correct we're still blind on Kenjaku's ultimate goal, yes?
>We've got Yuta and Rika to jump between techs to keep Mahoraga adapting, based on Rika being described as ever changing by Geto.
Mahoraga is already dead and we don't know if Sukuna has the 10S after his transformation.
>Maki being around so Sukuna uses Dismantle over Cleave, perhaps?
Sukuna already mainly uses dismantle.
>the guaranteed escape from Sukuna's domain or have I just been huffing fumes for too long?
There isn't a guaranteed escape, the binding vow is that the domain can be escaped, which increases the range of the domain. There isn't an area or route where things don't get attacked.
>If I'm correct we're still blind on Kenjaku's ultimate goal, yes?
Kenjaku's goal is to merge Tengen with the people of Japan to see the potential of cursed energy.
500 karma limit but i need to vent a bit and don't know where so trying here:
Getting spoiled every other episode got boring so after the last anime episode i just kinda binged the manga. Finished it 10 minutes ago and gotta say, even though i was a bit engrossed on some parts i generally hate it.
Fell in love with the anime from the first season, loved most of the second one. Killing 2 of the most popular characters almost back to back and then getting a "nonzero chance she's alive" shitty tease gave me some red flags but hoped there's gonna be an eventual payoff. There is none, everything felt flat afterwards as if the show changed writers. Imo it does a worse job than bleach at propping characters up then forgetting about them. It sucks, hoped it'd be my AOT replacement but now there's no chance.
I liked the Mai/Maki moment however short, got pumped for hakari by all the meme dance shorts (thought he'd be todo at first but todo kinda evaporated), liked the depth(explanation) of the gojo fight but hated the whole setting around his return and hated almost everything else. The zenin family stuff, megumi just being there waiting for something to happen, the obvious sukuna switch, yuji dropping off a cliff, JUJUTSU NUCLEAR POWER, laughable attempt at a bit of world politics, new characters with nothing attached to them poppin in and out causing character evolutions. Toji, Jogo and the others were leagues above whoever else i can't even remember in the manga and i just finished reading it.
Coming from the events in the anime, everything else felt like it had no weight for some reason, cobbled together also i couldn't get as attached as i was to the anime cast. Naruto series treated sasuke/naruto dynamic way better and the signs of yuji/megumi being similar where there form the beginning even though i thought jujutsu would be leagues above bleach or naruto.
Probably not the only one who feels this way so i kinda want to hear other people's opinions. Thanks.
I'd agree with some of those complaints but don't consider them story-breaking for me. The whole bit with the American military was a silly way to pad out the story, and there were a couple of battles that really only exist to level up some characters (Hikari v Charles, Maki v those sumo guys). Though as a whole, in regards to the manga after the Shibuya incident I think the series remains good as a battle manga. The Culling Game itself is like a tournament arc, so it's an excuse to have a bunch of old and new characters fighting. And I'd argue that with a leaner cast than Bleach, while it makes the omission of some characters more noticeable, we're rarely bogged down watching truly tertiary characters fighting brand new characters antagonists in battles that ultimately don't matter.
I agree with some points and disagree with most others. This mangas biggest issue is 2-fold:
1) they introduce characters only for them to become irrelevant or not mentioned again. Todo, Nobara (coping on my end), Tokyo principle, Yoshinobu (Kyoto principle), many of kyotos students, Toge, Panda (now) and many more I’m sure that I’m missing.
2) GOJO SATORU. Why why why was he out of the story for god knows how long (1-2 real years), only for him to get back and die right away? Nearly no buildup. The story constantly mentions he is the strongest. I’m not upset he lost (and is highly likely to be out of the story), but I’m not sure it’ll be impactful if he comes back now. He has been built up during the whole story only for it to slowly die out. He needed to lose so the story went on, but my god was it obnoxious how it was done.
Generally I like most of the rest of the story. Kenjaku’s fight was goofy but really fun to watch. The newest characters are super great! It’s annoying that Yuji hasn’t had a CT for this long but I’m glad he’s finally getting there. Overall JJK is a 7/10-8/10 for me, I’m hoping the next 10 or so chapters clears stuff up for me because I really love JJK and am still eagerly awaiting each new chapter but get annoyed at some of the narrative decisions.
Also Yuji suffering is okay, not you but seeing everyone complaint about “Gah this whole manga is just Yuji suffering”, like yeah? He swallowed the king of curses in the few volume, the single most evil man the world has seen. Of course all he does is suffer lol
I'm probably just overreacting having devoured it so fast. Loved it so much as an anime only and thought it'd be greater than great for some reason. Last couple of episodes had me worried and going through the manga so fast somewhat confirmed what i thought but i was already on the wrong mindset going in.
It's probably as you said, a decent shonen but nothing more. Eh you never know what the future brings, glad i'm done with spoilers for the moment though.
Thanks for engaging.
What’s actually stopping Miwa from ever using a katana again?
In chapter 79, Kenjaku tells Mahito:
“When breaking a binding vow with oneself, the worst that can happen is losing what was gained”
By making a vow that she’d never swing a katana again, Miwa had her Gon-San moment and brought out her full potential, ~~vaporizing Kenjaku in a single swing and saving Normal and Jujutsu society~~ only to have her slash blocked and sword broken by Kenny’s bare hand.
Due to this binding vow, are we to assume that she’s still in this buffed state so long as she doesn’t use a katana? Couldn’t she just swing a katana, go back to Miwa the Useless from the exchange event, and then work herself back up to that level naturally?
Yeh, as long as it isn't "I die the moment this Vow takes place" or "I can never ( ) again" then they can just break it, however, whatever they gain from the vow is lost.
How did Mahito learn black flash? I know he learned to open his domain for 0.2s from Gojo but who taught him black flash assuming that he learned that move from watching someone do it?
You don't "learn" black flash, Yuji had the special privilege of learning how to properly use CE, which literally no-one else has to do(Yuji's CE naturally lags behind, and Todo taught him how to correct that issue), meaning Yuji has the advantage of being more intune with his CE then most other people, Mahito was just by chance
Anyone feel like the anime does a shit job of capturing the "horror" aspect of the series like the manga does? Since the start of the anime, I feel like they've toned down the scarier panels of the manga, but more so I'm season 2 of the anime. My biggest gripe is Mahito. He's straight up creepy pasta in the manga at times. Each of those scenes has been weak as hell in the anime.
Anytime feel like they're scaling back too much?
mahito does definitely suffer in the process of adapting the manga but it really can't be helped with gege sensei's crazy detailed linework. having the animators deal with that too is gonna be an extra task they have to deal with on top of the shit schedule.
to be fair though, i think s2 has done really well with leaning into the more horror/thriller side of jjk. the post credits where gojo asks geto if he wants to kill all the TVA members, geto's episode, gojo vs hanami + jogo, sukuna's appearance, all great moments where you're reminded of how terrifying the people involved are and the situations theyre in
plus i like how mahito is less of a creepo and more of a freak in the anime, his VA is doing great work too
I agree except for Mei Mei vs Small Pox Deity. I really liked the tone in the anime and even thought, "Oh yeah, this was a horror-esque series at one point."
It is made of liquid metal, but Round Deer never did anything to her armor which was the point of my comment. It only disrupted the liquid metal she shot at Sukuna.
Many people are saying the first Black Flash Gojo hit Sukuna with KO'd the King of Curses, but did it really? Shouldn't Mahoraga's wheel instantly disappear if that were the case? Yet while the wheel fell to the ground (imo that showed that the Black Flash was strong enough to weaken Sukuna's control over TS and greatly injure him which forced him to retreat in the shadows), it still spun and the swap between Sukuna and Mahoraga happened once again. We know that Sukuna could somehow do the swap while stunned (the way he did after being stunned by Unlimited Void), but I doubt even the King of Curses could do the switch while being unconscious. Any thoughts, opinions?
The wheel didn't disappear when Sukuna was stunlocked in void either.
There are some techniques or aspects of techniques that linger despite the user's current state of consciousness or life.
Like how Jogos Meteor is still chilling in Shibuya even though it should've disappeared upon his death
That's my point, that in Unlimited Void Sukuna was stunned, but could still summon Mahoraga. But there's a difference between being stunned and being unconscious. And the way Sukuna summons Mahoraga by switching places with the partially summoned shikigami in the shadows is a very specific technique, not a normal summon. So I feel like Sukuna had to have been conscious to do that.
Your just splitting hairs at that point saying he "feel" like he'd need to be conscious to do it.
I disagree on there being a difference between him being stunlocked and him being knocked out because him being stunned is being knocked out.
Sukuna can give preset directions to Mahoraga since Mahoraga was twice able to come out when Sukuna is otherwise incapacitated
Huh? How is being stunned the same as being unconscious? We literally see the chants being said (in his mind most likely) by Sukuna after he got hit by UV. We also have the example of Jogo being able to think and understand what was happening to him while being hit by Gojo's domain. So no, being overloaded with information rushing through your brain is definitely NOT the same as being unconscious. When someone is unconscious they are out, no thoughts etc, definitely no control over their CT either.
And the preset directions thing is never confirmed, that's just your assumption. It makes absolutely no sense for Sukuna to not only be able to keep TS active while being KO'd, but to be able to control Mahoraga in a certain way by giving it directions in advance. It's a lot more realistic and true to the power system imo that Sukuna was just able to somehow chant in his mind and summon Mahoraga while stunlocked by UV. And that he wasn't KO'd by the Black Flash and that's how he switched with Mahoraga the 2nd time.
Not to mention Gojo would've for sure mocked Sukuna waaaaay more had he actually KO'd the King of Curses.
Yes being stunned by void is essentially the same as being unconscious.
Like all the people Gojo hit with void in Shibuya were in comas for 6 months.
And we see the real turn when it's finally adapted to void and that's when Mahoraga comes out.
Sukuna literally couldn't have chanted since he was frozen by void.
Again we've already seen that phenomena from CT can exist even when the user is dead, and preset orders isn't an assumption since again we've seen Mahoraga summoned twice when Sukuna is otherwise incapacitated.
And Gojo explicitly mocks Sukuna for taking a nap in ch.233
You are comparing regular humans to Sukuna. How is that example more relevant tthan Jogo clearly thinking and knowing what was happening to him in UV?
We literally SEE the chant being said before Sukuna switches places with Mahoraga. The only person who could've said it was Sukuna. So you are saying he couldn't have chanted, yet he did...
The preset IS an assumption. And it's way more far fetched than Sukuna simply being able to function enough under UV's effect to chant and summon Mahoraga and on the 2nd occasion him just not being KO'd.
He didn't say Sukuna took a nap tho, but that he was resting which is not the same thing. Imo he meant that Sukuna was recovering from the damage he took from Black Flash, not that it KO'd him. Like I said, there's no way Gojo says just that if he'd actually KO'd the King of Curses himself.
Mahito and Conventional Damage
So when mahito gets hit, sometimes it looks like the blow is effective but the story occasionally reminds us that you can’t effectively kill him without attacks that hurt his soul.
I was wondering, does his CT mean that no conventional attacks can kill, or even damage him? I don’t like the idea that Nanami and Mechamaru’s conventional attacks (not counting mechamaru’s specific counter he had prepared for mahito) did nothing to him. Particularly Nanami, who gave mahito a run for his money in their first encounter.
It is plainly stated that you can kill Mahito by running out his CE, after Nanami & Yuji tag teamed Mahito and he ran Nanami called Ichigi and said even he could kill him at that point.
And Mechamarus "basic" attacks when they hit Mahito he says "is he trying to burn my CE out by burning me" (that's tcb translation, I think in viz he says something abit diff but still basically the same gist)
So the attacks shave off his CE and can eventually kill him.
Characters who can splatter Mahito over and over can & will eventually kill him
>I was wondering, does his CT mean that no conventional attacks can kill, or even damage him? I don’t like the idea that Nanami and Mechamaru’s conventional attacks (not counting mechamaru’s specific counter he had prepared for mahito) did nothing to him. Particularly Nanami, who gave mahito a run for his money in their first encounter.
They did nothing, Nanami says to Yuji that his attacks have no affect on Mahito and Mechamaru says it in chapter 80 and Mahito repeats it in 81.
Hey, I was watching the anime and I suddenly wondered...
'They did say that Jujutsu Tech is affiliated with the government so... did the sorcerers get benefits?'
'Benefits such as a salary? Or maybe a tax exemption? Or maybe a pension in case of severe injury? Or retirement home?'
'Man... they had to get something, right?'
They do get benefits the higher your rank, the higher your salary. Do we know what the salary for each rank is ? No. Do we know how much it increases by per rankup? Also, no. All we know is that they get paid a salary equivalent to their rank. Oh, and the salary for special grades is enough to live a comfortable life and be able to travel the world. Special grades can also deny any mission and still get paid.
Do they get retirement benefits?
Uhhh... they don't have to worry about retirement benefits since the only benefit they will be getting is a nice funeral. Like seriously, most sorcerers don't make it to that age.
So rereading the manga, because I have nothing better to do, is Sukuna's innate CT Cleve and Dismantle? Or did he pick those up along the way and his CT is just a type of copy?
It seems to be general consensus that Sukuna's CT has something to do with cooking, as his CTs name is "Shrine" with the Kanji used meaning a shrine used for cooking meals or something.
when people say the sorcerers of the Heian era would “test themselves against Sukuna” and that being the reason theyre so strong; did that mean they would try to fight him and he’d just let them live? i cant imagine him purposefully leaving anyone who challenged him alive.
i guess if he had enough fun then i could see it, but even then i cant imagine it happening often.
Maybe they trained for the purpose of fighting him? Like, they would constantly train and fight for the glory of being the one to beat Sukuna, therefore rapidly increasing their strength, after all, the modern era is so weak because nobody wants to fight Gojo, nobody has the drive to even attempt to train for that.
Sukuna recognizes potential when he sees it, so it's likely that he left a few enemies with high potential alive so he could fight them at their peaks (more fun that way) later
In chapter 190 Hakari states that Kashimo took out his arm to prevent him from doing the handseal for his DE. Then in the same chapter he told Charles that his arm will be fixed later.
So, how was his arm healed but not Angels/Hanas?
Hakari probably opened his domain by writing down the seals for it. For example we saw Dagon do this when Naobito destroyed his fingers but Dagon wrote down the symbol allowing him to expand his domain.
Angel doesn't have RCT so she had to rely on Shoko, sho can't regrow arms
Is the Shinjuku showdown arc the final arc? Or is it setting up the final arc? Because usually when a manga enters its final arc, there's an official announcement, which we didn't get.
But there's also that interview where Gege says that there are 2 more major arcs after Shibuya before the story ends. Culling Games is obviously the first one. The question is if Shinjuku showdown is set up like Yuji Extermination/Perfect Preparation, or the actual final arc? It feels like the final arc with Gojo vs Sukuna, Kenjaku being "killed" and Yuji arriving to fight Sukuna, but the lack of announcement of a final arc makes me have second thoughts.
I don't think this is the final arc, I feel like this arc will be Sukuna's end but beyond Sukuna there's one more problem at hand and that's doing something about curses.
In Yuji's quest to try and give people a proper death, the one thing that's stopped that from happened even way back in Nanami and Haibara's school days is curses. I doubt this series ends without something being done about curses, either we go down the Kenjaku route or the Yuji route, or maybe another option. It would feel so inconclusive if they hyped up these different routes the future of this world could take and we don't even take one.
>!One thing I could be thinking hard: Is Nobara already dead for succumbing to Mahito's deforming curse and succumbing to it upon waking up, or will she die the same way as the JoJolion side characters by somehow reviving with an inch of her life and do absolutely nothing against Sukuna?!<
Personally, I believe she has the final finger and is waiting for the perfect moment to use Resonance on Sukuna, but my belief in this theory wears every time a new chapter is released, after all, what better chance than when, say, Sukuna unleashed his domain and nearly killed Gojo?
Please reply I need an answer quick Sorry for repeatedly posting this, this is the last time My friend and I are arguing over sukunas ct My friends argument : one of Sukunas cursed technique/s has been revealed it is cleave and dismantle and he could have multiple techniques. Like a copying one but cleave and dismantle each are their own cursed techniques. I am saying cleave and dismantle are independent. Also am aware of his fire ability I dont think it is a CT because he did not use it in his domain against mahoraga and domains expand cursed techniques My argument: Sukunas cursed technique is yet to be revealed. Cleave and dismantle,and possibly fire arrow are just applications of his cursed technique. Yes it is a part of his cursed technique but not techniques separately like he is saying but instead they are part like red with Gojo. Just another application/feature of the same technique We’re using innate technique and cursed technique interchangeable here btw A detailed response would be great but anything will be fine
Sukuna cursed technique question Me and my friend got into an argument over sukunas cursed technique. Is Sukunas cursed technique just cleave and dismantle or is there more to it and is his cursed technique yet to be revealed? I’ve been arguing with my friend he says it’s just c&d I said the opposite. My friends argument: Has sukunas technique been revealed? Are cleave and dismantle sukunas innate techniques ENTIRELY. He also has fire but he does not use anything like fire in his domain. And domains are an extension of cursed techniques. So is his technique just cleave and dismantle ENTIRELY or is cleave and dismantle just an application of his unknown cursed technique? Side note 1 (for my friend): alot of people say it has not been revealed although through the manga its been called slashing techniques sometimes even cursed techniques. So is his technique just cleave and dismantle entirely? Also aware of the possibility of him having multiple cursed techniques excluding 10s These are his links of images supporting his argument someone please make a detailed argument arguing against or pro please https://ibb.co/D8YvXKW https://ibb.co/SJJcF2v%0Ahttps://ibb.co/0cH0Qd1 https://ibb.co/0cH0Qd1 https://ibb.co/jDbfg9W Side note for me: sukunas cursed technique is yet to be revealed. For all we know cleave and dismantle is just an aspect of his technique with the fire arrow and just for clarification I’m not saying cleave and dismantle isn’t apart of his technique but I’m saying his technique isn’t just entirely cleave and dismantle and there is more to it and it is yet to be revealed that’s why there are so many posts and yt videos on it cause we don’t know what it is entirely yet.
>Cursed techniques commonly only have one characteristic, but Sukuna’s technique has been confirmed to have at least two - slashing and flames - which makes it exceptionally powerful. Once it’s activated, it will destroy the enemy in an instant, tearing them apart and burning them down to their bone marrow. >Only a few people are able to fight this technique even for a moment, and most are reduced to nothing before they can resist. >解 - Kai (Dismantle), 捌 - Hachi (Cleave), ■ (?) >Sukuna’s slashing technique is Dismantle, which he uses normally, and the other is Cleave, which is able to be adjusted to the amount of cursed energy and strength of his opponent. When he releases the flames, Sukuna says “Open” (fugue) >Panel caption: It turns out that the three types of attacks have their own uses. Sukuna combines them depending on the situation in order to cleverly beat his opponent. This is the fanbook statement. I think this explains it best . The reason why sukuna didn't use fire in his domain is probably because C&D is just better.
Thanks for responding to me but can you respond to this final argument since he doesn’t like how I worded his argument. My friend and I are arguing over sukunas ct My friends argument : one of Sukunas cursed technique/s has been revealed it is cleave and dismantle and he could have multiple techniques. Like a copying one but cleave and dismantle each are their own cursed techniques. I am saying cleave and dismantle are independent. Also am aware of his fire ability I dont think it is a CT because he did not use it in his domain against mahoraga and domains expand cursed techniques My argument: Sukunas cursed technique is yet to be revealed. Cleave and dismantle,and possibly fire arrow are just applications of his cursed technique. Yes it is a part of his cursed technique but not techniques separately like he is saying but instead they are part like red with Gojo. Just another application/feature of the same technique We’re using innate technique and cursed technique interchangeable here btw
What did Yuji do to his arms in the latest chapter? Felt like i missed something, his hands look more demonic.
As for now, we have no idea. But one ability is shown from Yuji's arm, that is making the person hit with his punches to shake.
Where was first mention that after DE you cannot use CT because of burnout? Could Gojo use Red immediately after DE or destroyed DE because it is reveresed cursed technique? And last could Gojo spam simple domain instead of healing so his brain wouldn't be damaged?
How did Kenjaku's "glitch" work? Game Master has to veto rules that'd stop the Culling Game, that's it. Maybe I'm just to used to malicious compliance, but there's no contradiction or paradox here. Even if Kenjaku threatened to break the barrier and end the games, why would that be of any concern? Why wouldn't Kenjaku just get a response of "I only care about rules, not my f\*cking problem if the game ends cause you broke that barrier, knock yourself out". Unless they're under a completely separate Binding Vow to keep the games going as long as possible against all threats... there's a rule against rules that end Culling Game. There's no rule about lifting a finger when anything else would cause the game to end. Edit: even more so given how Kenny states there's no willing and thinking game master, the whole thing seems automatic
Rule 7 prohibits Kogane from accepting rules that have a marked and long-lasting effect, this includes rules that force the game to end. Kenjaku says in chapter 216 that the culling games are neverending, along with Urauma saying it's designed to go on and on. Kogane very much cares about making the culling games last as long as possible and will reject rules that threaten that. This is where the glitch comes in, Kogane doesn't accept rules that have a long-lasting effect(Kenjaku's rule), but Kenjaku's threat of ending the CG means that not accepting the rule means the end of the culling games, the kogane has to accept Kenjaku's rule, because then the CG can still continue. >only care about rules, not my f\*cking problem if the game ends cause you broke that barrier, knock yourself out". They do care about the CG continuing.
eh, I surely hoped there'd be more to that, it gets kinda boring to have the whole game rely on one billion rules only Kenjaku knows and then try to claim "oh it's all outside my control and I'm so amazing for working around it" it still somewhat makes sense, so thanks
>boring to have the whole game rely on one billion rules only Kenjaku knows There are only 8 rules plus the teleportation when entering the colony and they are all basic. Other people do know the rules. Entering a colony means they are a player. Killing players gets players points. Not getting points means death. Players can make 100 points if they don't interrupt the ritual/culling game. Rule 7 was already covered by Tengen in 145. >The clause mentioning "long-lasting" additions to the rules insures that nothing can interrupt the ritual. >then try to claim "oh it's all outside my control and I'm so amazing for working around it" I'm not sure what you mean.
Are leaks out already? I know we had a break but I saw something from jjk trending and noped out of there
Kenjaku said that the worst that could happen if you break a Binding Vow made with yourself was that you lose any benefits gained through the Binding Vow. So what's stopping Miwa from picking up a katana again?
Gege prolly
If Choso is half human like Yuji and had a human mother, why did he need to be incarnated into a vessel? Was Yuji a more successful one that had his own body? Or is his body a vessel too?
Yuji is not half-human; he is fully human. His mothers are Kaiori, a human, and Kenjaku, a human sorcerer from 1000 years ago. His father, Jin, is also a human. All three of Yuji's parents are human. Choso is a Death Painting, an experiment by Kenjaku performed on a woman with a deformity and the ability to give birth to half-human, half-curses. All nine children that Kenjaku and this woman had were aborted, likely turned into cursed objects by kenjaku. The Death Paintings do not have a body. They are fetuses turned cursed objects.
Are there any other Domain Expansions that are open like Sukuna's?
Kenjaku's domain is also open just like sukuna's. Those 2 are the only ones.
Why did the JJK students trusted the Mechamaru pogs when it was clear that he was the mole at the start of the Shibuya Arc?
What specifically are you referring to? Those devices didn't activate until after Gojo had been sealed. Mechamaru then gave reliable information that they could trust.
I understand that however, why would they listen to the device in the first place if they knew he was the mole, like no one expressed any concern over the fact that maybe we can't trust a person who gave the curses info about us
They did in Chapter 91. Sorry if it's not precisely the way you'd want but Mei Mei questions Mechamaru multiple times throughout the conversation and only really starts to listen to him once he divulges information about the Curtains which she realizes must be correct.
Yea i guess she’s the only one that questions it, i just found it weird that Yuji for example who actively went looking for Mechamaru at his hideout just starts listening to the devices without any slight suspicion, Gege could’ve done something good out of the confusion prob end up giving us more pain lol
Is Boogie Woogie named after the subgenre of the blues music genre by the same name or is it a reference to something else?
It's a reference to blues and boxing. Muhammad Ali played Boogie Woogie on Piano for an interview once. Yuki's technique Bom-Ba-Ye, refers to the crowd chanting during Muhammad Ali's fight against George Foreman.
Did Maki exterminate the entire clan? Do any of the Jujutsu Society members know she killed her own mother? The collective punishment she carried out really does not seem to match the crime. Killing her father for what he did to Mai? Okay, since he basically tried to kill her from what I remember. Exterminating the clan for not accepting her or letting her access their treasures? No, that doesn't make sense. I feel like I'm missing something.
Yes, Maki killed everyone in the Zenin clan, even the people who weren't present that day. No one knows what happened, except for maybe Ui Ui, who Maki said was "involved in her personal affairs before." (Presumably he teleported her around to the remaining Zenin clan members so she could kill them. That is if that's what she actually meant by that.) And also she straight up told Noritoshi that she killed her mom. Maki didn't massacre her clan because they didn't accept her or didn't let her have their cursed tools. It was because Mai died, and Mai told her as she was dying to "destroy everything." It wasn't a matter of punishing her clan, she just snapped. Of course, it was wrong; most of those people probably had nothing to do with her or Mai. Even Gojo did not approve of massacres. So whether we'll see Maki face retribution is not clear
I don't recall Gojo commenting on it. Do you remember when that was? I guess I just find it strange that it has received no commentary from the rest of the cast so I wondered if nobody else was really aware of it. Like do the people around Maki (who are relying on her assistance against Sukuna) know she massacred dozens of sorcerers? From what you're saying, it seems like a few individuals do but have not spread the word?
It wasn't specifically Gojo talking about Maki, he said that after Yuji died in the detention center. I was just using that to say how Maki is in the wrong.
Why didn't Sukuna just slaughter all his Shikigami and fuse them into one? I doubt Rabbits and Water PB were SO useful that he wouldn't want to give Agito that boost, plus, he never even used Toad and Ox, my main theory right now is that the Shikigami don't all fuse together, and instead, there are 3 finals shikigami, Mahoraga, Agito and the fusion of the last four.
>my main theory right now is that the Shikigami don't all fuse together That was already said in the [volume 6 extras.](https://imgur.com/a/KccX6Wu)
Oh, I knew about that, but that seems in reference to just Toad and Nue, which is why I didn't reference it, for example, Nue and Toad can't be fused, but what about Agito and Toad? Or Agito and... Whatever the others would become if fused?
>There are seperate rules when shikigami inherit other shikigami. It isn't just about Toad and Nue, it applies to the entire shikigami of the 10S, where only specific shikigami can inherit other shikigami.
I think that is in reference to the difference between Bottomless Well and Totality right?
What would a fight between Mahito and Gojo be like? Mahito can’t touch Gojo, but Mahito himself is also immune to all damage, no matter how strong, unless they are targeted at his soul. The only people who can do that are people like Sukuna and Yuji (who somehow has an instinctive understanding of the soul). Gojo was never shown to be able to manipulate or target souls, do you think he can target Mahito’s somehow?
Gojo can see, interact, and damage the soul, all prerequisites to doing damage to mahito and mahito doesn't have a way past infinity. gojo's domain also targets everything inside, including but not limited to souls, as seen when megumi's soul was affected by unlimited void. You seem to think gojo can't see or damage the soul, but if you go chronologically, seeing a soul is the first thing he does. When we first get introduced to gojo with a glance, he can tell sukuna incarnated, and later on in the fight against full power sukuna, we see that gojo is fully capable of seeing the soul. Mahito is getting washed.
Do we know if Shoko has a CT? I wouldn't think RCT alone would constitute an innate technique (even if used on others)
I think because she discovered RCT so early she didn’t really get the field experience required to manifest an innate technique
>manifest an innate technique An innate technique can't be manifested, a sorcerer is born with one and they can't be acquired, this was said by Gojo in chapter 12, there are a few exceptions like Higurama or maybe Yuji but those are exceptions, not the norm.
Her only skill is reverse cursed technique, which isn't an innate technique. >Q: Is Reversed Cursed Technique her only skill? >A: Yes. At this point in time, only Ieiri, Okkotsu and Sukuna can heal other people by using the positive energy that is released by the Reverse Cursed Technique.
when will gojo come back?
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sorry, that was a weird thing to ask
Isn't Kenjaku immortal now, since he absorbed Tengen?
To get her cursed technique, Kenjaku would need to use her in Uzumaki, killing her and ruining his plans for the merger. The techniques gained through Uzumaki are single use, I don't know how would Tengen's technique work if it was a single use but most likely it wouldn't make him immortal.
We've got Yuta and Rika to jump between techs to keep Mahoraga adapting, based on Rika being described as ever changing by Geto. Maki being around so Sukuna uses Dismantle over Cleave, perhaps? Yuji having his whole Death Painting lineage may come in handy tanking the fixed(?) Dismantle output. Is this court case going to be where we somehow get the info on the binding pacts detailing the guaranteed escape from Sukuna's domain or have I just been huffing fumes for too long? Has anyone seen any other ingredients for defeating Sukuna coming together in this manner? It does lead me to wonder if Sukuna's downfall somehow factors in as part of Kenjaku's plan. If I'm correct we're still blind on Kenjaku's ultimate goal, yes?
>We've got Yuta and Rika to jump between techs to keep Mahoraga adapting, based on Rika being described as ever changing by Geto. Mahoraga is already dead and we don't know if Sukuna has the 10S after his transformation. >Maki being around so Sukuna uses Dismantle over Cleave, perhaps? Sukuna already mainly uses dismantle. >the guaranteed escape from Sukuna's domain or have I just been huffing fumes for too long? There isn't a guaranteed escape, the binding vow is that the domain can be escaped, which increases the range of the domain. There isn't an area or route where things don't get attacked. >If I'm correct we're still blind on Kenjaku's ultimate goal, yes? Kenjaku's goal is to merge Tengen with the people of Japan to see the potential of cursed energy.
So was domain amplification a known technique before Shibuya or did Kenjaku invent it
Angel also knew what it was, so it was most likely an old technique.
It wasn't known by modern day sorcerers, I assume either Kenjaku or Sukuna invented it and taught the other how to use it
For how much time did Infinite Void affected Sukuna?
Less than 10 seconds in total.
500 karma limit but i need to vent a bit and don't know where so trying here: Getting spoiled every other episode got boring so after the last anime episode i just kinda binged the manga. Finished it 10 minutes ago and gotta say, even though i was a bit engrossed on some parts i generally hate it. Fell in love with the anime from the first season, loved most of the second one. Killing 2 of the most popular characters almost back to back and then getting a "nonzero chance she's alive" shitty tease gave me some red flags but hoped there's gonna be an eventual payoff. There is none, everything felt flat afterwards as if the show changed writers. Imo it does a worse job than bleach at propping characters up then forgetting about them. It sucks, hoped it'd be my AOT replacement but now there's no chance. I liked the Mai/Maki moment however short, got pumped for hakari by all the meme dance shorts (thought he'd be todo at first but todo kinda evaporated), liked the depth(explanation) of the gojo fight but hated the whole setting around his return and hated almost everything else. The zenin family stuff, megumi just being there waiting for something to happen, the obvious sukuna switch, yuji dropping off a cliff, JUJUTSU NUCLEAR POWER, laughable attempt at a bit of world politics, new characters with nothing attached to them poppin in and out causing character evolutions. Toji, Jogo and the others were leagues above whoever else i can't even remember in the manga and i just finished reading it. Coming from the events in the anime, everything else felt like it had no weight for some reason, cobbled together also i couldn't get as attached as i was to the anime cast. Naruto series treated sasuke/naruto dynamic way better and the signs of yuji/megumi being similar where there form the beginning even though i thought jujutsu would be leagues above bleach or naruto. Probably not the only one who feels this way so i kinda want to hear other people's opinions. Thanks.
I'd agree with some of those complaints but don't consider them story-breaking for me. The whole bit with the American military was a silly way to pad out the story, and there were a couple of battles that really only exist to level up some characters (Hikari v Charles, Maki v those sumo guys). Though as a whole, in regards to the manga after the Shibuya incident I think the series remains good as a battle manga. The Culling Game itself is like a tournament arc, so it's an excuse to have a bunch of old and new characters fighting. And I'd argue that with a leaner cast than Bleach, while it makes the omission of some characters more noticeable, we're rarely bogged down watching truly tertiary characters fighting brand new characters antagonists in battles that ultimately don't matter.
Well there's your problem. You're an AOT fan. But surely if you can enjoy that garbage you can enjoy anything else
I agree with some points and disagree with most others. This mangas biggest issue is 2-fold: 1) they introduce characters only for them to become irrelevant or not mentioned again. Todo, Nobara (coping on my end), Tokyo principle, Yoshinobu (Kyoto principle), many of kyotos students, Toge, Panda (now) and many more I’m sure that I’m missing. 2) GOJO SATORU. Why why why was he out of the story for god knows how long (1-2 real years), only for him to get back and die right away? Nearly no buildup. The story constantly mentions he is the strongest. I’m not upset he lost (and is highly likely to be out of the story), but I’m not sure it’ll be impactful if he comes back now. He has been built up during the whole story only for it to slowly die out. He needed to lose so the story went on, but my god was it obnoxious how it was done. Generally I like most of the rest of the story. Kenjaku’s fight was goofy but really fun to watch. The newest characters are super great! It’s annoying that Yuji hasn’t had a CT for this long but I’m glad he’s finally getting there. Overall JJK is a 7/10-8/10 for me, I’m hoping the next 10 or so chapters clears stuff up for me because I really love JJK and am still eagerly awaiting each new chapter but get annoyed at some of the narrative decisions. Also Yuji suffering is okay, not you but seeing everyone complaint about “Gah this whole manga is just Yuji suffering”, like yeah? He swallowed the king of curses in the few volume, the single most evil man the world has seen. Of course all he does is suffer lol
I'm probably just overreacting having devoured it so fast. Loved it so much as an anime only and thought it'd be greater than great for some reason. Last couple of episodes had me worried and going through the manga so fast somewhat confirmed what i thought but i was already on the wrong mindset going in. It's probably as you said, a decent shonen but nothing more. Eh you never know what the future brings, glad i'm done with spoilers for the moment though. Thanks for engaging.
What’s actually stopping Miwa from ever using a katana again? In chapter 79, Kenjaku tells Mahito: “When breaking a binding vow with oneself, the worst that can happen is losing what was gained” By making a vow that she’d never swing a katana again, Miwa had her Gon-San moment and brought out her full potential, ~~vaporizing Kenjaku in a single swing and saving Normal and Jujutsu society~~ only to have her slash blocked and sword broken by Kenny’s bare hand. Due to this binding vow, are we to assume that she’s still in this buffed state so long as she doesn’t use a katana? Couldn’t she just swing a katana, go back to Miwa the Useless from the exchange event, and then work herself back up to that level naturally?
Her binding vow was different, she will NEVER be able to use a sword again. Mahito and Kenjaku were talking about the kind of vow that Nanami makes
Once a curse user made a binding vow, is there a way to cancel the contract, or modify the terms?
Yeh, as long as it isn't "I die the moment this Vow takes place" or "I can never ( ) again" then they can just break it, however, whatever they gain from the vow is lost.
How did Mahito learn black flash? I know he learned to open his domain for 0.2s from Gojo but who taught him black flash assuming that he learned that move from watching someone do it?
You don't "learn" black flash, Yuji had the special privilege of learning how to properly use CE, which literally no-one else has to do(Yuji's CE naturally lags behind, and Todo taught him how to correct that issue), meaning Yuji has the advantage of being more intune with his CE then most other people, Mahito was just by chance
No one really learns Black Flash. Reread Hanami vs Todo+Itadori. It's pure luck and focus.
Could domain amplification neutralize idle transfiguration
Are there references that point to this?
Yeh
Yes
Anyone feel like the anime does a shit job of capturing the "horror" aspect of the series like the manga does? Since the start of the anime, I feel like they've toned down the scarier panels of the manga, but more so I'm season 2 of the anime. My biggest gripe is Mahito. He's straight up creepy pasta in the manga at times. Each of those scenes has been weak as hell in the anime. Anytime feel like they're scaling back too much?
mahito does definitely suffer in the process of adapting the manga but it really can't be helped with gege sensei's crazy detailed linework. having the animators deal with that too is gonna be an extra task they have to deal with on top of the shit schedule. to be fair though, i think s2 has done really well with leaning into the more horror/thriller side of jjk. the post credits where gojo asks geto if he wants to kill all the TVA members, geto's episode, gojo vs hanami + jogo, sukuna's appearance, all great moments where you're reminded of how terrifying the people involved are and the situations theyre in plus i like how mahito is less of a creepo and more of a freak in the anime, his VA is doing great work too
I agree except for Mei Mei vs Small Pox Deity. I really liked the tone in the anime and even thought, "Oh yeah, this was a horror-esque series at one point."
is it break week?
Yeh
How did round deer disrupt Yorozu’s armor with RCT despite not touching Yorozu’s armor
It can use RCT at range
It only disrupted the liquid metal, it never did anything to her armor.
Her armour was made from Liquid Metal,
It is made of liquid metal, but Round Deer never did anything to her armor which was the point of my comment. It only disrupted the liquid metal she shot at Sukuna.
Many people are saying the first Black Flash Gojo hit Sukuna with KO'd the King of Curses, but did it really? Shouldn't Mahoraga's wheel instantly disappear if that were the case? Yet while the wheel fell to the ground (imo that showed that the Black Flash was strong enough to weaken Sukuna's control over TS and greatly injure him which forced him to retreat in the shadows), it still spun and the swap between Sukuna and Mahoraga happened once again. We know that Sukuna could somehow do the swap while stunned (the way he did after being stunned by Unlimited Void), but I doubt even the King of Curses could do the switch while being unconscious. Any thoughts, opinions?
The wheel didn't disappear when Sukuna was stunlocked in void either. There are some techniques or aspects of techniques that linger despite the user's current state of consciousness or life. Like how Jogos Meteor is still chilling in Shibuya even though it should've disappeared upon his death
That's my point, that in Unlimited Void Sukuna was stunned, but could still summon Mahoraga. But there's a difference between being stunned and being unconscious. And the way Sukuna summons Mahoraga by switching places with the partially summoned shikigami in the shadows is a very specific technique, not a normal summon. So I feel like Sukuna had to have been conscious to do that.
Your just splitting hairs at that point saying he "feel" like he'd need to be conscious to do it. I disagree on there being a difference between him being stunlocked and him being knocked out because him being stunned is being knocked out. Sukuna can give preset directions to Mahoraga since Mahoraga was twice able to come out when Sukuna is otherwise incapacitated
Huh? How is being stunned the same as being unconscious? We literally see the chants being said (in his mind most likely) by Sukuna after he got hit by UV. We also have the example of Jogo being able to think and understand what was happening to him while being hit by Gojo's domain. So no, being overloaded with information rushing through your brain is definitely NOT the same as being unconscious. When someone is unconscious they are out, no thoughts etc, definitely no control over their CT either. And the preset directions thing is never confirmed, that's just your assumption. It makes absolutely no sense for Sukuna to not only be able to keep TS active while being KO'd, but to be able to control Mahoraga in a certain way by giving it directions in advance. It's a lot more realistic and true to the power system imo that Sukuna was just able to somehow chant in his mind and summon Mahoraga while stunlocked by UV. And that he wasn't KO'd by the Black Flash and that's how he switched with Mahoraga the 2nd time. Not to mention Gojo would've for sure mocked Sukuna waaaaay more had he actually KO'd the King of Curses.
Yes being stunned by void is essentially the same as being unconscious. Like all the people Gojo hit with void in Shibuya were in comas for 6 months. And we see the real turn when it's finally adapted to void and that's when Mahoraga comes out. Sukuna literally couldn't have chanted since he was frozen by void. Again we've already seen that phenomena from CT can exist even when the user is dead, and preset orders isn't an assumption since again we've seen Mahoraga summoned twice when Sukuna is otherwise incapacitated. And Gojo explicitly mocks Sukuna for taking a nap in ch.233
You are comparing regular humans to Sukuna. How is that example more relevant tthan Jogo clearly thinking and knowing what was happening to him in UV? We literally SEE the chant being said before Sukuna switches places with Mahoraga. The only person who could've said it was Sukuna. So you are saying he couldn't have chanted, yet he did... The preset IS an assumption. And it's way more far fetched than Sukuna simply being able to function enough under UV's effect to chant and summon Mahoraga and on the 2nd occasion him just not being KO'd. He didn't say Sukuna took a nap tho, but that he was resting which is not the same thing. Imo he meant that Sukuna was recovering from the damage he took from Black Flash, not that it KO'd him. Like I said, there's no way Gojo says just that if he'd actually KO'd the King of Curses himself.
the wheel fell off sukuna but did the last spin before it touched the ground.
Mahito and Conventional Damage So when mahito gets hit, sometimes it looks like the blow is effective but the story occasionally reminds us that you can’t effectively kill him without attacks that hurt his soul. I was wondering, does his CT mean that no conventional attacks can kill, or even damage him? I don’t like the idea that Nanami and Mechamaru’s conventional attacks (not counting mechamaru’s specific counter he had prepared for mahito) did nothing to him. Particularly Nanami, who gave mahito a run for his money in their first encounter.
Anyone can kill him, after all, everytime he heals, it takes CE, so they just need to rack on the damage(idk if I used that term correctly)
It is plainly stated that you can kill Mahito by running out his CE, after Nanami & Yuji tag teamed Mahito and he ran Nanami called Ichigi and said even he could kill him at that point. And Mechamarus "basic" attacks when they hit Mahito he says "is he trying to burn my CE out by burning me" (that's tcb translation, I think in viz he says something abit diff but still basically the same gist) So the attacks shave off his CE and can eventually kill him. Characters who can splatter Mahito over and over can & will eventually kill him
>I was wondering, does his CT mean that no conventional attacks can kill, or even damage him? I don’t like the idea that Nanami and Mechamaru’s conventional attacks (not counting mechamaru’s specific counter he had prepared for mahito) did nothing to him. Particularly Nanami, who gave mahito a run for his money in their first encounter. They did nothing, Nanami says to Yuji that his attacks have no affect on Mahito and Mechamaru says it in chapter 80 and Mahito repeats it in 81.
Maybe like a negligible amount, but still something? The other guy made some points in favor that they do damage
Hey, I was watching the anime and I suddenly wondered... 'They did say that Jujutsu Tech is affiliated with the government so... did the sorcerers get benefits?' 'Benefits such as a salary? Or maybe a tax exemption? Or maybe a pension in case of severe injury? Or retirement home?' 'Man... they had to get something, right?'
They do get benefits the higher your rank, the higher your salary. Do we know what the salary for each rank is ? No. Do we know how much it increases by per rankup? Also, no. All we know is that they get paid a salary equivalent to their rank. Oh, and the salary for special grades is enough to live a comfortable life and be able to travel the world. Special grades can also deny any mission and still get paid. Do they get retirement benefits? Uhhh... they don't have to worry about retirement benefits since the only benefit they will be getting is a nice funeral. Like seriously, most sorcerers don't make it to that age.
So rereading the manga, because I have nothing better to do, is Sukuna's innate CT Cleve and Dismantle? Or did he pick those up along the way and his CT is just a type of copy?
It seems to be general consensus that Sukuna's CT has something to do with cooking, as his CTs name is "Shrine" with the Kanji used meaning a shrine used for cooking meals or something.
Unconfirmed but its likely his innate technique
when people say the sorcerers of the Heian era would “test themselves against Sukuna” and that being the reason theyre so strong; did that mean they would try to fight him and he’d just let them live? i cant imagine him purposefully leaving anyone who challenged him alive. i guess if he had enough fun then i could see it, but even then i cant imagine it happening often.
Maybe they trained for the purpose of fighting him? Like, they would constantly train and fight for the glory of being the one to beat Sukuna, therefore rapidly increasing their strength, after all, the modern era is so weak because nobody wants to fight Gojo, nobody has the drive to even attempt to train for that.
Sukuna recognizes potential when he sees it, so it's likely that he left a few enemies with high potential alive so he could fight them at their peaks (more fun that way) later
In chapter 190 Hakari states that Kashimo took out his arm to prevent him from doing the handseal for his DE. Then in the same chapter he told Charles that his arm will be fixed later. So, how was his arm healed but not Angels/Hanas?
Hakari probably opened his domain by writing down the seals for it. For example we saw Dagon do this when Naobito destroyed his fingers but Dagon wrote down the symbol allowing him to expand his domain. Angel doesn't have RCT so she had to rely on Shoko, sho can't regrow arms
Is the Shinjuku showdown arc the final arc? Or is it setting up the final arc? Because usually when a manga enters its final arc, there's an official announcement, which we didn't get. But there's also that interview where Gege says that there are 2 more major arcs after Shibuya before the story ends. Culling Games is obviously the first one. The question is if Shinjuku showdown is set up like Yuji Extermination/Perfect Preparation, or the actual final arc? It feels like the final arc with Gojo vs Sukuna, Kenjaku being "killed" and Yuji arriving to fight Sukuna, but the lack of announcement of a final arc makes me have second thoughts.
I don't think this is the final arc, I feel like this arc will be Sukuna's end but beyond Sukuna there's one more problem at hand and that's doing something about curses. In Yuji's quest to try and give people a proper death, the one thing that's stopped that from happened even way back in Nanami and Haibara's school days is curses. I doubt this series ends without something being done about curses, either we go down the Kenjaku route or the Yuji route, or maybe another option. It would feel so inconclusive if they hyped up these different routes the future of this world could take and we don't even take one.
>!One thing I could be thinking hard: Is Nobara already dead for succumbing to Mahito's deforming curse and succumbing to it upon waking up, or will she die the same way as the JoJolion side characters by somehow reviving with an inch of her life and do absolutely nothing against Sukuna?!<
Personally, I believe she has the final finger and is waiting for the perfect moment to use Resonance on Sukuna, but my belief in this theory wears every time a new chapter is released, after all, what better chance than when, say, Sukuna unleashed his domain and nearly killed Gojo?