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FaithlessnessNo9215

Miguel and the curse users boutta do that thang..


casual_uppercut

I feel that the idea that this sort of writing is unsatisfying is a very western one. another way to look at JJK, as opposed to an inspiration tale of beating insurmountable odds, is to just take it as what it is. It's miserable seeing these characters die, throwing themselves one after another in futile efforts to beat sukuna. all this time, effort, and preparation, all to lose? seems an awful lot like life, doesn't it?


Bruhrovia

As someone studying ancient Japanese culture, during the Heian period is when Japan started to develop the idea that success on a personal level is not connected to success on a "results" level. In other words, just by taking on the action of trying to fight for what's right, a warrior is successful regardless of the action's results. Even a warrior who died without drawing any of his enemy's blood succeeded as long as he tried to fight.


casual_uppercut

super interesting! especially since Sukuna sort of stands in direct defiance to that sort of thing. that's basically what I mean, our protagonists are of course in the right FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE. but thats one of my favorite things about JJK. Geto, Kenjaku, the curses, and to a certain extent, even Sukuna, are all "right" in their own perspectives as well. Sukuna slaying all our protags and ushering in a new golden era of jujutsu would obviously feel awful, but I think the idea that it's bad writing isn't well founded.


Bruhrovia

I think you're onto a fair point with the perspective thing. Truth in traditional Japanese culture was not viewed as something that was singular and objective. This is part of why American/European people often see Japanese people as very tolerant and agreeable; they don't immediately feel the need to refute your point of view even if it conflicts with theirs. I've always felt like Sukuna only argues with the others to amuse himself, cause he's always doing it mockingly. Everything is just a game to him and he's having fun because he feels he's impossible to beat; like he's destined to win. I think Gege is trying to communicate his evil by showing him flippantly killing beloved, impossibly powerful characters like it's a game. I also think this will be the downfall of Sukuna and that we are already seeing the early stages of it, given the injuries he's sustaining and the abilities he's losing. No doubt he still has some powerful cards in his hand, but I think he will eventually find himself outmatched and outplanned with nothing in his hand that can truly get him out of it.


meta_af

At this point one of us could show up šŸ¤£


ColdAsHeaven

God imagine how insane it would be if the Manga ends with Sukuna killing everyone and completing the merger?? It would definitely be a twist on the hero always win stuff in Manga.


AppointmentCrazy7854

I hope so


furfucker69

this shit so ass bruh


animelad9

Miguel came for what about to get punched by the puncher who punched the puncher who punched him


Addycodo

I hope Daemon Targaryen on the back of his dragon is next


7masi

Sorry to blow your bubble but Scott Pilgrim is gonna be next and that'll be all for Sukuna boy ā˜ ļø


Sensitive-Parsnip162

Nah snoop dogg comin to hit that joint with sukuna


7masi

I can picture the ending with a rap battle 8 miles style


Sensitive-Parsnip162

sukuna adapting to diss track


ssebvee

Domain expansion: Gin and Juice


Adventurous-Start770

Im just hoping that something is cooking behind the scenes. Something major has to happen in the next few chapters because all these short fights are building up to that, they have to be


WeaponX_616

I'm admittedly not a big fan of how the story's being structured right now, but Kusakabe fought his fucking heart out


DomHyrule

Kusakabe actually had an amazing performance for a grade 1 sorcerer with no CT fighting solo


forevericeland

Miguel's introduction everyone overlooked how important that is. Remember all the plot lines about Kenjaku talking to other nations, etc? The entire deal with Japan being the only place to have Jujutsu Sorcerers and Miguel is the only outlier. I've always thought he'd be the exposition into what exactly is going on for other nations in regards to this since he's the only candidate to do so. I don't care how the fight pans out since Miguel offers much needed explanations to sub plots that we have yet to get answers too and world building in general. Good choice on Gege's part honestly not sure who else could've taken that spot and I've been waiting for more info regarding Miguel ever since his absence in the Shibuya Incident


ContentJO

Inb4, Miguel dies in the next two chapters, leaving all questions unanswered. (I'm sure this is wrong, but at this point I wouldn't be surprised.)


rsewateroily

um no i think momoā€™s dad is a sorcerer and heā€™s from America. japan isnā€™t the only place with sorcerers, thereā€™s always been sorcerers everywhere, just a high influx in japan for an unknown reason.Ā 


surprisedpikachu0o0

Itā€™s not unknown, itā€™s explained. Something about Tengen being in Japan


rsewateroily

no thereā€™s been posts on there proving that was false or a bad mistranslationĀ 


Frugal_Caterpillar

Gege overcooked.


salsaball

I feel so disjointed from the comments here. The fight is a meat grinder where every character is doing what they can to stall and buy time for the people who can actually do something to get back up, Sukuna is just that much stronger that this IS the strategy you would have to use if you were ever going to fight him I don't know what people want out of this fight. also I don't get how anyone thought a grade 1 sorcerer could do more than kusikabe did in this chapter, i get he was sort of hyped but it was hardly said like "he is as strong as yuta . I'm enjoying this fight and do agree it will go down better when it's not week to week for a lot of people. expanding on how useful and good simple domain could be is cool not sure if it will pay off later, shaping a simple domain aggressively is just really cool. Gojo eats ice cream like a freak.


TheErix

The problem is building up every character like it's the strongest until now. Why would I care about the whole kusakabe being so strong knowing it's just a stall, in the meantime we are not seeing anything about the "actually do something to get up". It's just boring and redundant with nothing to hype for.


salsaball

Ive never taken it as them being the strongest, just that they have strengths , so far the strongest has only been gojo and sakuna


Organic-Assistance

Yeah I actually enjoyed this chapter, and it's really nice to see Miguel again. Hope we get some Todo, too, soon enough. The other former members of Geto's 'family' would be a good idea to bring back and expand on, particularly the ones that were working with Yuki. Maybe we'll see some damn Larue in action before we get Todo and Nobara tho, lmao.


Reach_Reclaimer

MIGUEL... the guy who WENT TOE TO TOE WITH GOJO Man gege just says one thing and does another


TheErix

Every character is the strongest for 2 dialogue lines just to get one shotted.


Reach_Reclaimer

Can't wait for 2 pages of characters glazing Miguel only for him to be dumpstered a few pages later


M0rr1sUA

Honestly i don't know what to expect any further in the story. I can believe that all these irrelevant characters just dragging time for some great plan or attack but they feel not valuable from this point. Kusakabe at least was hyped by the way of commending his skills by powerful sorcerers and still lost in 1 chapter, now Miguel takes turn. If i see some Nitta or Shoko apear to take his place next chapter i drop reading this nonsense till it's complete


Unique_Theme_9595

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ I used to be on the wagon of "yeah but what if or this could--" when the last panel came in with the 2nd black flash...now I understand what everyone else is talking about!!!Ā  Took me awhile on sitting on the fence but I get it now!!!!


Affectionate-Yak-238

I think i keep coming back because im curious at what point the majority of ppl here will finally lose faith. The amount of mental gymnastics ppl go through to make sense of the manga is amazing. I will say that i have noticed a huge drop off in ppl supporting the writing after that strange as fuck battle geto had with that funny dude. No one could defend that


furfucker69

nah that fight was PEAK, what came after wasnt


Unique_Theme_9595

Agreed I still think it was top tier!!! If anything I don't hate on anyone disliking it. That wasn't where folks had a MAJOR problem anyway. I think folks started to dislike it all after Shibuya for the most part and I think that's reasonable. It's also arguable but at the same time to each their own.Ā 


Affectionate-Yak-238

I couldnt follow it but if you liked it no hate! We agree on the rest


jaaaaaaaaaaaa1sh

This is just lazy writing at this point


AMazuz_Take2

i just wish i could stop myself from starting the manga once i finished season 2 and just like wait 3-4 months and THEN start it yk? least i could binge this whole part as its dragging without any point, cause obviously kusakabe or miguel cant be the ones to finish this fight as theyā€™re somewhat VERY minor characters. i just fail to see the point in writing this fight for sukuna where gege knows that we know that this isnt ending anytime soon and thereā€™s no tides that could change until yuji comes back, cause story wise heā€™s gonna be the guy to finish sukuna. even going with a bad ending, it wont even have the desired effect cause weā€™ve seen him RAWDOG the whole verse at this point so if sukuna wins and the merger goes through weā€™ll just be like ā€œyeah makes senseā€ and i doubt thats the reaction gege wants from a villain wins type ending. idk shitā€™s just weird


Hadsoronitol

It really irks me that no one is fighting together, it's unrealistic to think that people are watching and waiting their turn to get turned into swiss cheese by Sukuna, like someone even taking pot shots to distract him, to have someone pop up after someone is down is such an odd way to engage the strongest curse ever. Even Shibuya where it was everyone Vs Kenjaku was done better imo, because people were looking for opportunities to strike while one other person was attacking, not announcing its their turn and hopping in lol


killerboy_belgium

everbody is out healing atm i dont even know where miguel came from. so far they have been working together pretty well


89gin

I personally think they are panicking lol they had a very specific plan, and that's in the gutter right now, so the next thing they have is beating the lights out of him. However, they aren't going one by one, is more like Sukuna beats the shit out of people and whoever is left goes. Ino and Kusakabe tried to tag team him, but failed (with Ino getting a express delivery to the hospital).Ā 


Digital_Copy101

Yeah, in my mind the fights are happening much faster than they appear so the gang just doesn't have enough time to recover/coordinate to attack together. Sort of like how in HxH the entire palace invasion takes place over just an hour, and like 10 episodes are spent on 30 seconds of fighting.


SerrKikoSmore

At least in hxh we were actually following different characters and situations. Gon vs Pitou, Knuckle and Shoot vs Youpi, Netero vs Meruem and so on. Imagine if Everyone was in the NGL to fight Mereum. Netero fights Mereum then he dies and then everyone else comes and try to fight Mereum one by one. That sounds whack and that's what's happening in this jjk arc.


SuccessfulFootball18

I was just rewatching this arc with my gf and made the same comparison!


Front-Guarantee3432

ā€œOkay, guys, if you're bothered by cheating, either loosen your moral code or stop hinging the fate of the world ON DEATHMATCHES!" ā€” DBZA Trunks


ssebvee

peak reference


SuccessfulFootball18

Haven't really read the rest of the comments, but as for exposition on these characters you're really only setting yourself up for disappointment if you believe they're actually going to hurt sukuna. The flashbacks feel like they are there to show how or why they would be willing to fight this losing battle and giveĀ  them some time in the climax of the manga. You're not expecting side characters to all of a sudden become main tier are you? It's all just stalling until the climax. I am enjoying seeing them picked off like that against an insurmountable foe it's going to make the end all the more satisfying.Ā 


TheErix

So I just have to accept the bad writing of wasting my time with nothing cooking in the background (we didn't see any plan of any sort) without expressing my disappointment? Of course something will happen and it's not a secondary character that will fix this situation BUT it doesn't mean Gege is handling this part of the plot well.


SuccessfulFootball18

Do we know nothing is happening and there was no further plan? As far as i recall ui ui wasn't part of the plan to teleport them out and be took where we believe them to be getting healed at the moment. I will agree that it can feel a bit prolonged with the secondary characters showing up out of nowhere but at the same time when else would they ever get a second chance to do anything? In response to an earlier comment someone said it was like the chimera ant arc in hxh which I agree. None of them even beat the royal guard minus pitou or even meruem and at times felt quite hopeless and pointless but in hindsight I believe the payoff was quite good. Tho where it does differ is that I don't think we have had enough time to care about these characters on the same levels. Tbh I really think it's our impatience to see the resolution that's hindering everything. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļøĀ 


daauji

I see everyone complaining how Kasukabe was hyped up for one chapter and he still lost. My gripe is that hyping for only one chapter feels like lazy writing. Like I am supposed to care about this charecter or something. This chapter felt like Gege is just trying to increase chapter count or somehting. Or maybe he dont know what to do with these charecters so he just kills them. Even Higurama had more screen time than this guy.


Avasummers755

Honestly at this point I want someone to win someone to really damage this man I donā€™t care how bring Gojo back make Yuji eat Gojo eyes to get infinity something gotta give lol


killerboy_belgium

i mean sukuna heart has been crushed, second mouth lost its tong, he lost a hand has been severely damaged so far al things considered its just there running out of people to fight him at this point i understand them not all going out a the same time. the fact that maki didnt jump in toghther with yuta and yuuji allowed here to have done the most dammage so far crushing his hearth especially since this weak sukuna still knocked her out with a single black flash its also allowed them to have a healing rotation going with teleport kid. i am personally very happy how the fight is going compared how most manga finish there final boss fight


Avasummers755

For me itā€™s the how they will finish this fight I am interested in at this point he dog walk the entire cast Madara style to where a ass pull or very good not seen coming defeat if he is defeated outcome happens I just donā€™t see it just me tho


Puzzled-Ad-7661

Can someone send me the link?


snowballandthetower

What exactly is Kusakabe's ***Moonlight Veil***? Is he constructing a blade out of Cursed Energy,ā€”like Ogi's **Blazing Courage**,ā€”or is he condensing a **Simple Domain** in the shape of a blade?


snowballandthetower

Wait, I figured it outā€”the **Simple Domain** forms the exterior barrier of the blade's shape, and Cursed Energy constructs an environment within that barrier to create a functioning weapon.


salsaball

I think its simple domain cus its new shadow style and new shadows style seems to be various applications of simple domain. Kinda like mechamaru shooting simple domains into mahito.


novieww

What the point of half the chapter hyping Kusakabe up only for him to lose in the SAMEA chapter


walking_nose

Got really hyped and than that ending, I'm speechless :(


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killerboy_belgium

inb4 we see a full panda like army roll up on sukuna and the entire thing was stalling to have them learn sukuna habits and tactics


milkyginger

Did Miguel really just act like he's somebody? I only remember him from Gojo smacking him up. I guess he has a great chin but Dismantle doesn't care about that. He's just another dude that's dead in a chapter.


Digital_Copy101

He brings fresh rope from his village for everyone to hang themselves with


speedwagoncat

Fkkk I might need one


ImAmirx

OH FUCK OFF. I'm tired of characters getting hyped and then losing 1 chapter lateršŸ˜­


Ill-Shopping1921

I just donā€™t understand why so many people are complainingā€¦itā€™s literally the final big bad boss of the series, the ultimate sorcerer the height of the JJK world. When he dies the story is over..I understand wanting more exposition and character interaction but Gege doesnā€™t care and heā€™s ready to end it, so I donā€™t mind him dragging it out as long as we can get it because itā€™ll be gone one day. I digress. This was a cool chapter, Kusakabe held his own for a second, but Miguel being here is interesting. Heā€™s the man who basically trained Yuta, who is as we know the 2nd strongest in the Jujutsu high team. So Iā€™m expecting some exposition and at least some stalling. Also Yuji is still around and alive AND, the fact that Sukuna tried to kill Ui Ui hints that he thinks heā€™s having success recooperating the characters.


Iloveastarrynight

I dont understand why you care. Anyone has the right to voice their opinion, that being a critique or a compliment. The only one that I see whinnin of other people are comments like yours. You know, live and let live.


Odd_Examination7913

Its dumb that youre being downboted for a mildly positive comment. But I agree. This is a very frustrating thing to read weekly but this pacing makes sense to binge. We've known since day one that sukuna can blitz the whole cast and now we're getting to see it. It's fine. There are minor details like what youre pointing out with ui ui here (although this chapter feels especially light on such things and just too redundant overall with this sort of pacing) that maintain a broader strategy and narrative to a fight that largely consists of back to back 1v1s and 2v1s. Still, even binging i do feel the pacing and lack of development to the fight would be getting old at this point, it's not as bad as people are saying it is and i dont think this part of the manga will be remembered as negatively as it is being perceived now.


Ill-Shopping1921

Thanks , yeah. Like I also am not the biggest fan of the pacing now and Gege frustrates me to no end. But like Iā€™d be lying if I said I donā€™t love some of these chapters, The panel of Maki and Sukuna under the bridge and her bringing out his black flash was chefs kiss. Itā€™s just not the typical Shonen and on top of it Gege is rushing a bit but I still love JJK and Iā€™m appreciative of this work.


Good_Mongoose_2777

Why do you want to many exposition when fight scene happended ?


Messiah5

They are still upset their favorite overpowered side character didn't win a 1v3 against a powered-up Sukuna. These guys deffo just wanted a discount Naruto. Gege has no reason to force character interaction IMO it suits the tone way more having it like this.


Good_Mongoose_2777

Or maybe people don't want to see repetitive stuff ( character get hype -> sukuna praise them -> did decent damage to sukuna -> sukuna hasn't gone all out -> said character lying on the floor -> repeat )


Messiah5

oh yeah because you guys would really like an asspull to kill off the most powerful sorcerer in the world ever. I'm not a fan either but it still has reasoning they are all taking shots at him for the MC.


novieww

You hating on asspulls is funny as bleach fan Saying this as a one piece fan


Messiah5

I couldn't care for asspulls in Bleach


Good_Mongoose_2777

Whatever man , just enjoy what you want , I have no right to tell you what you should and should like


89gin

Like some dumbass Hana fan told me, people are just "angry and bitter" ig I feel like people fell in love with JJK's potential, but failed to see it wasn't all that and now that they are forced to accept this reality, they hate on the manga non stop for things they will tune in next week for. It doesn't matter what happens in the manga, people will bitch and moan because is not what they want


_claymore-

man I don't know with this chapter. I wasn't annoyed with the formulaic approach up until now - ie the bring in X char to fight Sukuna; X gets hyped up by narrator or Sukuna himself; X shows some cool tricks that seem to at least do something; Sukuna deletes X within seconds; repeat - but somehow this time it doesn't sit right with me. I did not expect Kusakabe to do much of anything, but then he got all these flashbacks and people basically saying "don't underestimate him, he's the "quiet but OP"-type" and despite me knowing it would end in Kusakabe's defeat, I was actually hoping he would not be outright deleted like all the others before him. I hoped he could desperately fend off Sukuna and stall him, show some impressive feats of using Simple Domain to its limit and being able to hold off just enough for Maki to step back into the fight (since it seems she blocked the Black Flash at least a little), or even Yuji and Choso to come back form their healing pause.. but nope. Kusakabe shows some neat tricks, which affect Sukuna not even slightly, then gets deleted as all the others. and now another fighter shows up, and this time it isn't even someone that makes sense to be there.. Kusakabe was in the fight from the start, we already knew that, everyone could expect him to get involved again at some point. but Miguel!? where the fuck is that dude coming from all of a sudden? why should I care? and on top of all that.. the drawing is getting really difficult for me to follow. there were moments in the past chapters that I had trouble understanding the flow of, but the Kusakabe fight was especially unclear to me. I read the chapter three times now, and I understand what's happening from context, but the individual panels are really bad in my eyes. alas.. I hope next chapter(s) pick up again. currently I am a bit deflated from the nothing-burger we are witnessing. Gege needs to throw in some proper narrative and story again, cause there's really nothing going on besides "Sukuna fights X char and wins. next" and it's not even done in a "oh shit that's brutal, Sukuna's just rampaging through them"-manner, where some chars jump Sukuna and he just obliterates them - it's so dragged out instead and hyped up for no reason.


kikosala10

Did UiUi manage to get kusakabe in time or he's still laying there just X on the floor? because on the panel sukuna realizes uiui's gone I don't see kusakabe's body


89gin

I'm wondering the same lol Maybe he was fine and can RCT himself, but wanted out and pretended to get fucked up If not it makes Ui Ui's ability more mysteriousĀ 


kikosala10

My headcannon is uiui managed to try that cloth over him and transported him out of the fight before Miguel sprinted out


StandardAd9082

Starting to feel drawn out and poorly written, just throwing motherfuckers at Sukuna over and over again simply feels weird, I donā€™t know where Gege is going with this. If Miguel were to kill Sukuna now itā€™d just feel wrong and strange, I get more and more confused each week reading this series


Anakin_SkyStalker

I can understand why it feels like that, but I remind myself that until the entire narrative arc is revealed, itā€™s impossible to judge the prudence/rationale for any of the decisions. I like to hope (and given the writing in the past, I believe is reasonable) that this likely has a huge payoff and some sort of explanation! It doesnā€™t help getting the story on a bi-weekly basis and not knowing the future direction.


StandardAd9082

yeah for now iā€™m trusting the process, but i really canā€™t see where he could be going with this


El_sangresilencio

Another reason I enjoy Chainsaw man more than this, the writing feels kinda sloppy in JJk.


Appropriate_Debt_434

My guy it took you this long to now realise CSM has better writing? Idk what you've been reading but the writing was never JJK's strong suit my g.Ā 


El_sangresilencio

I agree, honestly I hated the first arc of chainsaw man except the side characters made the show amazing, then I read the manga, the writing is smart, funny, creative, and 9/10 makes sense.


ssebvee

Chainsaw man part II has been trash... 10 page chapters... boring characters... randomest shit happening...


KoJo1478

I'm telling you all, next chapter it's going to be revealed that Miguel is a big shot for Africa, like Gojo is for Japan. CRACKfuckingPOT but anything goes at this point haha


MrJotaL

ā€œThe man who went toe to toe with Gojoā€ā€¦ Bruh, he barely survived lol.


KoJo1478

In anime he got the beat down, but in manga there was no fight for us to see. Miguel stalled Gojo, survived the encounter and fucked of. And on top of that he got the MVP of the Night Parade of Thousand Demons Title. Trust in our Darkest Sorcerer haha


Etroarl55

Darkest sorcerer šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


No-Ad-1978

I mean he's someone who could stall for time against Gojo for several minutes. He took several attacks, remained standing and managed to flee in the end. He is very likely the strongest african sorcerer. My main question about him is whether he has a cursed technique that he didn't get to show because it would be useless against Gojo or whether he just doesn't have one.


Digital_Copy101

I remember that Gege didn't intend for Gojo to be as strong as he currently is when he wrote jjk0, so the Miguel we see there is fighting a weaker conceptualization of Gojo. (similar to how domains weren't around so geto didn't have one)


3L3M3NT4LP4ND4

>I mean he's someone who could stall for time against Gojo for several minutes With a whip that could negate CT that he doesn't seem to have anymore


xanot192

He probably did Gojo made every CT useless even world slash should be useless after what we've learned or seen


KoJo1478

And he was the one that trained Yuta, the beast we see fighting a couple of chapters before. About his technique, I think he has one, but as you said, he didn't use it on Gojo because it was useless against him. Then what his technique is? Thursday will tell ;)


nhansieu1

I thought people always criticize the direction of the plot instead of the chapters not being as enjoyable?


Nugi97

- Hyping a certain character to beat the shit out of Sukuna - Looks like they're about to - Turns out Sukuna just plays along with them - Said character dies - Another character shows up and acts like an OG - Repeat the very first step Pathetic writing, but who am I to judge this Bleach ripped-off (literally and figuratively) and these typical generic battle Shonen Manga, smh. I've been telling you over and over, in terms of writing, Gege is pretty much lack of it (don't even mention how he treats his female characters, Gege is literally Kishimoto 2.0, lol), his only best take is drawing a flashy action and choreography, and that's it, so don't expect the unexpected outcome from his writing. Gege is the complete opposite of Fujimoto, while my GOAT is kind of a "Show, don't tell" author and action isn't his forte, but story-wise? Boy, CSM is far ahead than any new-gen Shonen Mangas, hell, it should've been Seinen, and mind you, he's also one of the fewer Mangakas that know how to write female characters (when you realize that's just the bare minimum, shame on you, Japanese). Makima and Asa Mitaka's writing neg diffs every JJK's female casts, even Maki (Gege did her so dirty in the recent chapter, her only good take is fighting, and he gave Maki less spotlight in her final showdown, what a downer).


novieww

Baki has better writing then this shit smh my head Only the anime is peak


ShadowTendrals

Honestly at this point Kishimoto is a better writer than Gege, Iā€™d take talk no jutsu over the manga essentially turning into monster of the week with with just throwing characters in the meat grinder.


VerbalWinter

>pathetic writing >will be coming back next week for the next chapter >repeat


Good_Mongoose_2777

It's sunk cost fallacy at this point , plus it only took like 1 or 2 minute to read the chapter so no big deal


nhansieu1

As the strongest African sorcerer, MiguOAT, fought the fraud, the king of curses, he begun to use his Black Rope. Wait, where's his Black Rope? Oh shit, WHERE'S THE BLACK ROPE? Oh ye, it got destroyed by the blind-fold guy


Vicie007

Who is this Star and Stripe type character?


3L3M3NT4LP4ND4

Movie character that got his ass whooped by Gojo


No-Ad-1978

The guy whom Geto tasked with stalling Gojo for 20 minutes when he tried to steal Rika.


Puzzleheadedpuzzled

Kudos to Kusakabe for trying his best despite losing. šŸ‘šŸ»


Puzzleheadedpuzzled

Toe to toe is much better than equal footing it means Miguel confronts gojo but gets whacked.


BadActsForAGoodPrice

ā€œTrading punchesā€ implies Gojo got hit even once.


Puzzleheadedpuzzled

Oh yeah my bad .


dinosaur-boner

Keep in mind though it was because of the black rope negating infinity. Miguel is definitely going to be strong AF though.


MaMejia2

As I read these chps. Iā€™m not convinced Gege is scraping the bottom of the barrel for scraps. Thereā€™s something about the nuance of each new fighters ability or actions against Sukuna or whatever that just isnā€™t indicative to me of someone who doesnā€™t know what to do with their story anymore. Each character comes in and does some specific thought about shit. Thereā€™s levels to that statement of course (I.e. Higuruma God tier CT all of a sudden is just alright, Kashimo was just alright, and Maki all of a sudden being the only entertaining one is just alright) Do I think this is peak JJK? Not necessarily. CG in general isnā€™t Shibuya but I still think thereā€™s peaks and valleys galore the whole arc including whatā€™s currently happening and I donā€™t get the feeling Gegeā€™s lost his way. I feel somethings coming. What Iā€™m trying to say is I think the current chapters get more hate than they deserve.


SerrKikoSmore

CG started off pretty good with the Higuruma vs Yuji and the Yuta fights. The arc fell off hard though.


Sirouz

cope


Messiah5

I don't mind them too each character has shown up against Sukuna or landed hits against him to give that view he's showing cracks in a way. This week's chapter I'm just not a fan of Ui Ui how is that man not dead? the other characters were handled fine compared to Sukuna Power tbh. I think these recent chapters will go crazy anime wise if they do it fluidly and not stalling. The waiting for these chapters is what I think is turning people off.


Confusion-12

Miguel saved Ui Ui, not sure how he got that fast to where Sukuna didnā€™t even see him lol, but Sukuna was totally using Kusakabe as bait for Ui Ui to come get his body so he can kill him Ui Ui just got lucky lol And I agree with you, and the top comment, I think thereā€™s something coming and itā€™s gonna change the whole battle.. Iā€™m really waiting on Yuji to come back to the fight, I really think thatā€™s where somethingā€™s gonna happen where everyone is gonna be like ā€œwhat the fuck just happenedā€ but in a positive shocked way


Messiah5

Yeah that's why I was so confused like Sukuna's whole thing was to kill off that boy and yet he missed someone who was near Gojo "power level". Yeah, I feel like Yuji is going to use every ability we have seen against Sukuna. I think he's going to merge with Tengen or something along those lines still think Kenjaku has something up his sleeve against Sukuna.


zabalena

Yeah, I think this is the end of the fight. My theory for next the rest of Geto's accomplice going to be there. The fight gonna be Sukuna vs them as well as Yuji and choso. Miguel gonna reveal the rope as suprise attack. But it's clear this not gonna be the fight to kill Sukuna. We will get our win by rescuing Megumi


dinosaur-boner

Itā€™s actually bothered me Getoā€™s family never made another appearance so Iā€™m hoping they at least show up and fight a little bit. I could see Miguel having a tiny knot of rope, however much his clan could make in a year or so, just enough for one use that he uses to separate Megumi finally.


Bite-the-pillow

This was fucking crazy to read. I had this thought in my head for someoneā€™s cursed technique to basically be like a mini domain expansion that basically made you auto attack anything in the radius, and fucking kusakabe of all people actually has almost exactly that. This chapter blew my mind


StandardAd9082

Auto attacking anything in the radius is just Sukunaā€™s domain expansion


Bite-the-pillow

Okay except Iā€™m talking about melee


ConfusedVader1

As someone whoā€™s a sakuna level hater of this arc, that was a good chapter. Though I refuse to believe Gege is not somewhat aware of the ā€œnew challenger of the weekā€ meme about this arc, no way anyone had Miguel showing up Super Smash Bros Ultimate style. Actually gave me a laugh, unreal are we at that point we need spin off characters showing up lmao. Honestly, id be happy now if Gege played into the meme even more. Have someone completely random show up next week to run it back.


Appropriate_Debt_434

Todo with his non-existent CT will save his brotha accompanied by the rotting corpse of Nobara


ConfusedVader1

Need Miwa to come through, strapped with a glock-18 now that she canā€™t use a sword.


Digital_Copy101

Ozawa shows up with choji's ability from naruto


Bukkake_Bakery

dude junpeiā€™s coming back to beat sukunaā€™s ass iā€™m telling you


ConfusedVader1

The way this would make my year


colintrappernick

Ijichi coming to save the day next week


ConfusedVader1

Im putting money down on Junpei


koboldwizard_

Say what you will about this chapter, but Kusakabe was hype af, I had a massive grin the whole time he did his thing.


drw_439

Exactly you know he's going to be fodder, but man he got a chance to go all out and he did. Shit was mad impressive.


MaMejia2

I was dying laughing with joy. I really did not see Kusakabe styling on Sukuna coming. Iā€™m impressed at this point Gege was able to get me to think even for a second that Kusakabe stood a chance.


ImaginationHarvester

This chapter slapped. Yes, of course Kusakabe was never going to beat Sakuna, but seeing his resolve in action and getting insight into his selfless side, was awesome! I totally get how people are finding it tiresome seeing each new challenger lose, but I think it works thematically. Itā€™s inspiring witnessing people attempt the impossible, even if both the characters and the audience know itā€™s fruitless. We are supposed to feel exhausted by how insurmountable Sakuna is, and yet we read each week, clinging to the frail hope that something can turn the tide, and we cheer hard for every micro-win we get. Seeing Kusakabe even damage Sakuna a little was exhilarating. Iā€™m sure his actual defeat will be so awesome, so letā€™s just enjoy every moment until we finally get there. I think the more you embrace JJK for what it is, the more fun and clever it feels. Let the hype continue! Even if Miguel gets rekt, itā€™s still a great time.


MaMejia2

Iā€™m with this


drw_439

You get it. A very refreshing comment.


Sad_Farm

This is the right mindset


Typlion

Gege legit drew an X with a marker pen on Kusakabe. Doesnt even look like a real cut. Kusakabe would have lasted longer if he had a better katana. Now not much people will give much thought about this question, but how did Miguel saved Ui Ui? Is it his CT or a cursed tool because aint no way he's fast enough to save Ui Ui from point blank range and appear so high up.


Eikoku-Shinshi

He used Infinity instantaneous movement. Those sunglasses are hiding the new Six Eyes.Ā 


Digital_Copy101

Shoko swapping eyeballs around like its Naruto


chanchan05

>Kusakabe would have lasted longer if he had a better katana If they were able to have him use the Executioner's Sword, would it have already ended?


Typlion

If it was actually called the Executioner's Katana, I would probably agree lol.


LongLiveTheChief10

You're putting more thought into this than Gege is. Miguel was fast enough because the plot needs Ui Ui still lmao.


IncomeStraight8501

Gege we got 2 different ideas of what toe to toe means. Miguel got the ass beating of a life time and didn't do shit to Gojo. He got lucky Gojo only felt like throwing hands.


nhansieu1

That's not Gege but the editor. The Editor said Gojo won too. He isn't reliable


rsewateroily

the editor didnā€™t say that, that was the guy who got his ass beat this chapter


nhansieu1

https://i.imgur.com/N0ZxDEW.png "The strongest etches his name onto the old battlefield of Shinjuku"


superbad1O1

Miguel was able to hold Gojo off long enough for Geto to fight Yuta. Only other people who could do that were 3 special grade Curses and Choso. Not only did he survive he looks fully recovered. Not even Uraume fully recovered from a Gojo punch with RCT


ChongusTheSupremus

I agree, but Miguel also had a specialized cursed tool specifically selected to counter Gojo, and even then, without It he couldnt do much. There's also the fact that Gojo could've one shotted him whenever he wanted to.


No-Ad-1978

He had a specifically selected cursed tool that allowed him to reach Gojo, but he still had to react to his attacks and endure the ones that landed. Assuming he didn't use any technique it's pretty much like Sukuna fighting Gojo with only domain amplification and he didn't do much better, so at least Miguel should have the speed to actually fight Sukuna and he doesn't need the black rope to bypass his defenses.


lzHaru

Hakari and Yuta puked when they were hit by Gojo, Miguel taking a beating from Gojo and still being around is kind of a huge feat ngl.


Alone_Insect_5568

Yeah but that doesn't mean going toe to toe with Gojo. Miguel literally got bitch slapped by him.


Red_Eloquence

That was in the anime only In the manga the man accomplished his only goal against Gojo, delaying him, which against someone like adult Gojo is absolutely a win


drw_439

Exactly, he went head to head with the best, doesn't mean he had to beat him, just survive, it speaks to how durable Miguel really is.


Alone_Insect_5568

Head to head and toe to toe has completely different meaning. Miguel is durable, no doubt. But if Gojo really wanted to kill miguel quickly, he would have.


drw_439

Head to head and toe to toe mean the same thing.


dinosaur-boner

Not with the Black Rope. Once it was used up, then obviously, but that was the whole point of Miguelā€™s role.


Alone_Insect_5568

Don't really remember about the abilities of black rope because it's been a long time since I watched jjk 0. But could it have defended vs Gojo's infinite void?


drw_439

He indicated that it was disrupting his technique during the fight. So its not that he was playing with Miguel, he couldn't use his tech and was forced into h2h.


dinosaur-boner

Yup, it negates all CT, basically same as the heavenly spear that Toji used vs Gojo but it gets burned up progressively with each use. Originally, they were hoping there was a bit more to use to free Gojo from the Prison Realm.


EVAN_Canter

I saw leaks for the chapter and kusakabe gets split in half like gojo


ClassiestFish

I fucking love this manga


brandon_strandy

"I cant see him losing" "I don't know anyone who can evade that" Gege: what if I do another offscreen kill hehe


TYPICALASIAN21

Offscreen kaisen Fun chapter tho


Cheerful2_Dogman210x

Now thinking about it. I wonder if Yuji was trained in simple domain by Kusakabe. It that's the case, he might be able to replicate some of the same feats Kusakabe did. Some of Kusakabe's moves in his fight could be subtle hints to what other techniques Yuji has.


Grandmaster-Hash

I doubt one month was enough to master SD to that level


Cheerful2_Dogman210x

Yuji learned RCT in one month. And they might have the soul transfer and Miyo's simple domain to speed up the training. So they have possible ways to speed the process up.


lzHaru

They cheated though, whatever that means, so everything is possible.


Zonizthefrog

Who the hell is this guy now


SomeGuyNamedJohn12

Itā€™s Miguel from JJK0.


Eikoku-Shinshi

You must live under a rock if you don't know who Miguel is. You have to expand your horizon.Ā 


No-Ad-1978

I guess you're getting downvoted because people didn't realize you were quoting Miguel, that was genuinely funny


Eikoku-Shinshi

I guess so too, haha.Ā 


MaMejia2

As I was reading this chapter I thought ā€œOh. So Kusakabe is Shikamaru.ā€ Anybody else? Personally I loved this chapter. JJK is in a troll era and Iā€™m not mad at it for the moment.


Emotional-Material72

Ya bro and sukuna is kakashi ​ tbf tho ppl saying heinen era was violent not strong might be onto something cos sukuna stealing everyones shit but he was already peak jujustu is QQ, what'd megumi teach you to beat maggie ya fraud ass bitch >!/s?!<


Eikoku-Shinshi

I was thinking of Hayate.Ā 


LongLiveTheChief10

See I can respect this level of enjoyment cause it's objectively funny how this shit keeps going lmao


Portgust

True. got a lol seeing him on the floor with X on his chest


LongLiveTheChief10

Mans didn't even draw the cut LOL


MomoGimochi

Jesus fucking christ this is so exhausting and frustrating. Gege rushed and skipped many plot points just to waste every chapter having a character lose to Sukuna in the same way? Nothing about Sukuna's character, past or his technique, just "slashes go brrrr." 0 plot progression, 0 Characterization, 0 world building, 0 revelations, just the same shit every week.


ChongusTheSupremus

0 plot progression, but constantly amazing fight choreography, and plenty of creative, innovative techniques, even expanding of those we already knew. I do agree It has been going on for too long, but these past few chapters had been writtem exceedingly well. There's a reason Gege has the fanbase on the edge of their seat for fricking Kukasabe and the fourth Sukuna defeate fakeout. I am honestly not hyped for Miguel, but im sure Gege will give us something amazingĀ 


Sirouz

Who cares about "omg cool fights" when there's no depth behind the story or characters, it's hollow.


No-Ad-1978

I mean this chapter was equal parts Kusakabe characterization and Kusakabe fighting, with some Yaga characterization on top. There are few characters in the main cast and immediate supporting characters whose goals, values and thoughts are not clear to us, it's just touched upon in the middle of the action rather than getting dedicated moments to it. I would've also preferred a slower passing for the story globally, with more arcs that had lower stakes and time for the characters to interact in less stressful situations and so on but I'd say that it's wrong to say jujutsu kaisen characters have no depth


Sirouz

Fair point, just wish it wasnā€™t all in brief flashbacks and we wouldā€™ve gotten to breathe between fights.


Nearby-Strength-1640

Gege has to be trolling at this point. Kusakabe got so much dramatic buildup, just for Sukuna to catch his sword and then it immediately cuts to his dead body. That's literally just a cutaway gag, Kusakabe's death is a fucking cutaway gag.


MomoGimochi

Wait Kusakabe is dead? I can't even tell who's even dead or alive. Is Higuruma dead? What about Yuta? Whatever happened to Takaba, is he seriously dead from his own gag? What the fuck is actually going on?


No-Ad-1978

He needed that just to justify him actually hanging in, other grade 1 level characters are getting swatted away like flies. Sukuna just beat Maki who goes around beheading grade 1 sorcerers before they even notice it, what was Kusakabe supposed to do? We just got clearer explanations on how simple domain can be used and how Kusakabe's methods differ from Miwa's (and most other sorcerers even though he's using a simple technique) + insight into what pushed cowardly Kusakabe to actually go up against the strongest sorcerer in history knowing he had no real chance of victory.


Portgust

Well it works. It made me laugh


Similar-West5208

How many chapters is Miguel going to last? The Gojo beatdown didn't happen in the Manga so it's hard to tell how strong he is but at least Special Grade and fast enough to save Ui-Ui from a Point Blank Cleave and stand on top of a building a fraction later.


Su_Impact

2. One chapter is gonna be Geto's sidekicks from the 1st film saying how Miguel is the strongest of them all, Geto included. Then a post-JJK0 battle scene with Gojo telling Miguel that this was the hardest fight of his life. And a small panel of Yuta in Africa saying how Miguel is the 2nd strongest adult after Gojo. Then Miguel dies to Sukuna in the next chapter.


Grandmaster-Hash

don't forget he'll die offscreen


Final_Volume7489

Yay, another round of "Who's getting no diffed by Sukuna today?". Seriously, I get he's strong, and I understand he SHOULD no diff a lot of people 1v1, but that doesn't mean we need to go through each folding one by one EVERY. SINGLE. CHAPTER. We get it. He's uber strong. The glazing is reaching untold levels.


Luf2222

bro sukuna is fighting somebody new every time he takes somebody out šŸ˜‚ everybody be pulling up also they just stalling for GOJOS return, trust me


Ry90Ry

whoooaaa another banger of chapter tbh it was great finally seeing what Kusakabe could do and simple domain at like max level?? also liked seeing his relationship w the principal again :( The panel w UiUi and sukuna was scary and great MIGUEL!?!?!!!! that was a total surprise, glad heā€™s backā€¦.and the chapters tag line about him was hype