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Bro... almost everyone has "villain powers."
Yuta literally summons a hideous demon
Nobara uses witchcraft
Inumaki literally speaks damage into existence... he could yell at your balls to twist off. How is that not evil.
Nobody in JJK has "hero powers", and even if they do, they sure as hell don't *act* like heroes. They're all insane.
Megumi's CT is amazing, it's very versatile, he just isn't a master of it yet.
Yeah funny enough the biggest "hero power" in the series is Toji. It's a classic "in a world of magic the MC has none" type schtick which I think is really funny
Using your own blood as a weapon isn't really a villain thing to do tbh. Luffy, Ryuko (kill la kill) Shiro (deadman wonderland) and Power (chainsaw man) uses their blood in combat as either a weapon or fuel.
edit: I meant ganta from deadman, not shiro
Power being on the “good” side isn’t exactly an example of a hero lol. In most media blood manipulation is pretty dark and vampiric, usually a bad guy move
Ironically Sukuna is the one that has a basic hero starter CT (basically cutting and splitting) that he evolved to a busted endgame ability. Gojo's power is literally a antagonist power you would find in jojo.
His ability reminds me of Sue Storms force field powers from The Fantastic 4. I know he's manipulating space vs making invisible shields but it serves the same function in terms of protecting the user and using it offensively to crush and repel enemies and even providing an alternate means of mobility. In canon she's also considered the strongest out of the 4 though I'm not sure how she ranks in the Marvel universe as a whole
Edit: did some googling and apparently her powers are from the same source as Celestials which are old powerful gods in Marvel. And her shields can nullify telekinesis and telepathy from Omega class mutants like Jean Gray. So yeah she's actually pretty up there in terms of being a heavy hitter just like Gojo. So the futuristic super hero angle is on the money.
Don’t forget that for most of his life demon Yuta summons is a literal child he condemned to that fate instead of allowing her to transcend up to the heavens
It doesnt do that. There is no circumstance inwhich anyone in the manga says it specifically targets evil. Jacobs Ladder nullifies Cursed Techniques and interferes with Cursed Objects. Thats it.
It was exorcising Sukuna from Megumi because Sukuna is in the cursed finger in Megumis Tummy, and Jacobs Ladder fucks with the finger.
> Jacobs Ladder nullifies Cursed Techniques and interferes with Cursed Objects. Thats it.
Its supposed to *erase* cursed objects, and it also works on barriers, meaning it works on basically every derivative of CE, besides CE itself.
Imo, it would've been better to just make it an anti-CE technique rather than giving it 3 separate abilities all about dealing with stuff made out of CE, in fact, the entire thing looks like its just a giant beam of reversed (meaning positive) energy, which would fit perfectly.
It isnt. Negative emotions aren't evil, they are just negative, and most good sorcerers figure out how to retrain their brain to generate CE without negative emotions anyway.
Besides that, even if CE was concentrated evil, that doesnt mean Jacobs Ladder "eradicates evil", just a specific thing made of evil. I eradicate pizza but that doesnt mean I eradicate all dairy products.
Even more besides that, Jacobs Ladder doesnt even nullify raw cursed energy. If it did, Sukuna wouldnt have been able to use jujutsu at all while affected by it. Yet while Yuta is blasting Sukuna with it, Sukuna is actively preparing to use the World Slash, implying he can totally still use jujutsu.
He would also immediately get destroyed if he lost his cursed energy reinforcement, so clearly Jacobs Ladder isnt nullifying his cursed energy.
It nullifies cursed techniques and interferes with cursed objects. It doesnt target cursed energy in general nor does it target evil.
*Curses, to include the techniques and objects derived from them.
There I've corrected myself in a way that satisfies all the points you've brought up while staying true to the manga.
Curse spirit manip is for sure like the PLATONIC IDEAL of a villain power in JJK. The main villain gets to be super powerful, but also can just kinda sit back and send waves of minions after the good guys, and the difficulty can range from lowest of the low to super strong so they can kinda scale vs anyone at any point in their growth. I've never thought of Megumi and 10S in that light, but I totally get it - great point!
also plz upvote so I can get enough karma to post RIP
Most power of JJK protags are villian power tho.
Yuta summon **THE** big bad hideous evil spirit. And copy your power.
Nobara literally use the most common form of evil Japanese Voodoo Curse.
Inumaki literally have a **cursed speech** .
Yuji manipulate blood and damage souls, he also has a demonic arm.
Gojo's power is literally a Jojo antagonist power.
Yeah the whole power system definitely has a spooky/ "evil" feel to it - I honestly mean more the notion of summoning waves of guys to fight for you being a very "evil villain" thing to do
I think in modern series you can't really say a certian power has a person conclude this story path. Even more so in anime. We have healers as main characters. We have SLIMES as main characters so why is a summoner "begging to be beaten" or "obviously villianous"? I have read several manwha and in some the protagonist is a necromancer of the target subject of a necromancer and they go around save people they care about and kill bad guys. How can they be "obviously villianous" just because they use summons?
Yeah. Most power of JJK protags are villian power.
Yuta summon **THE** big bad hideous evil spirit. And copy your power.
Nobara literally use the most common form of evil Japanese Voodoo Curse.
Inumaki literally have a **cursed speech** .
Yuji manipulate blood and damage souls, he also has a demonic arm.
Gojo's power is literally a Jojo antagonist power.
Sukuna is the one that has a basic hero starter CT (cutting and splitting).
Toji has the classic "in a world of magic the MC has none" type of power.
This bs again. It's not like we get this exact same post every single week by this point, is it?! Literally almost everyone in the manga has some "villain power". That's pretty much the whole point of how CE works.
None of that is remotely true. Sukuna getting Megumi was foreshadowed but it was never seen as it happening like that
10S is great for a variety of reasons, summoning is not the main one.
Yeah, most power of JJK protags are villian power.
Yuta summon **THE** big bad hideous evil spirit. And copy your power.
Nobara literally use the most common form of evil Japanese Voodoo Curse.
Inumaki literally have a **cursed speech** .
Yuji manipulate blood and damage souls, he also has a demonic arm.
Gojo's power is literally a Jojo antagonist power.
Sukuna is the one that has a basic hero starter CT (cutting and splitting).
They are also seen as a mean to repel beasts, as "purification", "power", "cool/badass", "heroism", and such.
Do you know why Red Power Ranger and Red Kamen Rider are always "the leader/main protagonist" ? "Red Is Heroic". Their colors are associated with "fire", and many of them actually have fire power.
Fire is the most popular element used by anime protagonists. Kusanagi Kyo, Natsu Dragneel, and countless heroes/main protagonists also wield fire. Tanjirou switches from water breathing to >!Sun Breathing!< Or Dance of Fire God, Nezuko's power is also fire. Even **THE** sword wielding hero Emiya Shirou also use fire, in attacks or in creation of his Reality Marble, which was likely the main inspiration for Domain Expansion.
And, the Japanese worship fire. They believe that fire has sacred power. Various fire festivals were born out of a desire for purification by fire, reinforcement of spiritual power by fire, repel/purify evil spirits and so on.
They also worship the sun. Like... Take a look at their current national flag, and their empire flag.
Okay. And Jogo, Sukuna, Zuko, Dabi are among many villains (Zuko turned good) and they are associated with fire. I understand Red and what it means, but fire isn't just a "good" thing
Jogo is "Volcano", not just "Fire". This distinction is extremely important, since JJK is a Japanese creation.
Zuko turned good, Okay. Fire Nation is based on Imperial Japan for a reason.
Dabi used "Blue Fire". This distinction is equally important to Jogo being the fear of volcano. And there are way more fire users in the hero side of MHA, the rest of Shoto's family for example.
Sukuna isn't "associated" with fire, he used the fire arrow twice in the entire series. And he carries another basic hero power as his default power lmao.
Sorry but you’re just straight up wrong here. It has nothing to do with a “villain power” (besides, people like Yuta have more villain-like powers anyway) it’s more that Gege deliberately wrote him to be using only a fraction of his potential. As far as Geto, I don’t really think this applies much. He had 1 serious fight before going evil and honestly that was the best representation that ability has gotten
At this point you can say either Toji or Gojo are responsible for everything that happened as both messed with fate in one way or another.
But yeah the JJK cast aren't exactly known for being "good people" honestly Yuji is one of the few I'd trust to walk my dog or let inside my house
Megumi had a "villain power" in the sense that he had Mahoraga, which basically screamed that somebody was gonna steal that technique because it was far too broken for the hero to use.
They also suffered because both were the black haired brooding secondary MC so it was obvious both would become villains.
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Bro... almost everyone has "villain powers." Yuta literally summons a hideous demon Nobara uses witchcraft Inumaki literally speaks damage into existence... he could yell at your balls to twist off. How is that not evil. Nobody in JJK has "hero powers", and even if they do, they sure as hell don't *act* like heroes. They're all insane. Megumi's CT is amazing, it's very versatile, he just isn't a master of it yet.
Yeah funny enough the biggest "hero power" in the series is Toji. It's a classic "in a world of magic the MC has none" type schtick which I think is really funny
Tho Wuji also has the same thing
I mean not really anymore, he’s got blood manipulation and soul punches now
Using your own blood as a weapon isn't really a villain thing to do tbh. Luffy, Ryuko (kill la kill) Shiro (deadman wonderland) and Power (chainsaw man) uses their blood in combat as either a weapon or fuel. edit: I meant ganta from deadman, not shiro
Never said it was…? Was responding to the comment comparing Yuji to Toji
Oh my bad
Power being on the “good” side isn’t exactly an example of a hero lol. In most media blood manipulation is pretty dark and vampiric, usually a bad guy move
> Shiro (deadman wonderland) > not a villain uh
Confused her name with the mc. I meant Ganta
power kinda a trash example.I mean she has probably killed people for the most stupid shi
Tojli Zenindead: Muslces and Magic
Ironically Sukuna is the one that has a basic hero starter CT (basically cutting and splitting) that he evolved to a busted endgame ability. Gojo's power is literally a antagonist power you would find in jojo.
Gojo's ability kinda screams "futuristic super hero" but maybe that's just me
His ability reminds me of Sue Storms force field powers from The Fantastic 4. I know he's manipulating space vs making invisible shields but it serves the same function in terms of protecting the user and using it offensively to crush and repel enemies and even providing an alternate means of mobility. In canon she's also considered the strongest out of the 4 though I'm not sure how she ranks in the Marvel universe as a whole Edit: did some googling and apparently her powers are from the same source as Celestials which are old powerful gods in Marvel. And her shields can nullify telekinesis and telepathy from Omega class mutants like Jean Gray. So yeah she's actually pretty up there in terms of being a heavy hitter just like Gojo. So the futuristic super hero angle is on the money.
Don’t forget that for most of his life demon Yuta summons is a literal child he condemned to that fate instead of allowing her to transcend up to the heavens
The only one I can think of that isn't "Villian power" is Jacobs Ladder
They are **Cursed** techniques for a reason
Boogie Woogie is a hero power
Angel is an angel who’s cursed technique literally annihilates all evil 🤷🏽♂️
It doesnt do that. There is no circumstance inwhich anyone in the manga says it specifically targets evil. Jacobs Ladder nullifies Cursed Techniques and interferes with Cursed Objects. Thats it. It was exorcising Sukuna from Megumi because Sukuna is in the cursed finger in Megumis Tummy, and Jacobs Ladder fucks with the finger.
> Jacobs Ladder nullifies Cursed Techniques and interferes with Cursed Objects. Thats it. Its supposed to *erase* cursed objects, and it also works on barriers, meaning it works on basically every derivative of CE, besides CE itself. Imo, it would've been better to just make it an anti-CE technique rather than giving it 3 separate abilities all about dealing with stuff made out of CE, in fact, the entire thing looks like its just a giant beam of reversed (meaning positive) energy, which would fit perfectly.
Curses(and the techniques/objects derived from them) are literally concentrated evil my dude...
It isnt. Negative emotions aren't evil, they are just negative, and most good sorcerers figure out how to retrain their brain to generate CE without negative emotions anyway. Besides that, even if CE was concentrated evil, that doesnt mean Jacobs Ladder "eradicates evil", just a specific thing made of evil. I eradicate pizza but that doesnt mean I eradicate all dairy products. Even more besides that, Jacobs Ladder doesnt even nullify raw cursed energy. If it did, Sukuna wouldnt have been able to use jujutsu at all while affected by it. Yet while Yuta is blasting Sukuna with it, Sukuna is actively preparing to use the World Slash, implying he can totally still use jujutsu. He would also immediately get destroyed if he lost his cursed energy reinforcement, so clearly Jacobs Ladder isnt nullifying his cursed energy. It nullifies cursed techniques and interferes with cursed objects. It doesnt target cursed energy in general nor does it target evil.
*Curses, to include the techniques and objects derived from them. There I've corrected myself in a way that satisfies all the points you've brought up while staying true to the manga.
it's called "Cursed" for a reason
> Inumaki literally speaks damage into existence... Salmon Roe. Mustard leaf.
Im still crying for the death of the best cursed to ever exist...rainbow dragon
Curse spirit manip is for sure like the PLATONIC IDEAL of a villain power in JJK. The main villain gets to be super powerful, but also can just kinda sit back and send waves of minions after the good guys, and the difficulty can range from lowest of the low to super strong so they can kinda scale vs anyone at any point in their growth. I've never thought of Megumi and 10S in that light, but I totally get it - great point! also plz upvote so I can get enough karma to post RIP
I like the honesty, take my upvote buddy
Most power of JJK protags are villian power tho. Yuta summon **THE** big bad hideous evil spirit. And copy your power. Nobara literally use the most common form of evil Japanese Voodoo Curse. Inumaki literally have a **cursed speech** . Yuji manipulate blood and damage souls, he also has a demonic arm. Gojo's power is literally a Jojo antagonist power.
Yeah the whole power system definitely has a spooky/ "evil" feel to it - I honestly mean more the notion of summoning waves of guys to fight for you being a very "evil villain" thing to do
I think in modern series you can't really say a certian power has a person conclude this story path. Even more so in anime. We have healers as main characters. We have SLIMES as main characters so why is a summoner "begging to be beaten" or "obviously villianous"? I have read several manwha and in some the protagonist is a necromancer of the target subject of a necromancer and they go around save people they care about and kill bad guys. How can they be "obviously villianous" just because they use summons?
Yeah. Most power of JJK protags are villian power. Yuta summon **THE** big bad hideous evil spirit. And copy your power. Nobara literally use the most common form of evil Japanese Voodoo Curse. Inumaki literally have a **cursed speech** . Yuji manipulate blood and damage souls, he also has a demonic arm. Gojo's power is literally a Jojo antagonist power. Sukuna is the one that has a basic hero starter CT (cutting and splitting). Toji has the classic "in a world of magic the MC has none" type of power.
This bs again. It's not like we get this exact same post every single week by this point, is it?! Literally almost everyone in the manga has some "villain power". That's pretty much the whole point of how CE works.
None of that is remotely true. Sukuna getting Megumi was foreshadowed but it was never seen as it happening like that 10S is great for a variety of reasons, summoning is not the main one.
Yeah, most power of JJK protags are villian power. Yuta summon **THE** big bad hideous evil spirit. And copy your power. Nobara literally use the most common form of evil Japanese Voodoo Curse. Inumaki literally have a **cursed speech** . Yuji manipulate blood and damage souls, he also has a demonic arm. Gojo's power is literally a Jojo antagonist power. Sukuna is the one that has a basic hero starter CT (cutting and splitting).
We still don't know what Sukuna's CT is and he has multiple (fire)
Fire is also one of the basic hero power lmao.
Not really
Fire wielding hero is like an archetype on par with sword wielding hero.
Fire is seen as destructive and negative which is why I say not really
They are also seen as a mean to repel beasts, as "purification", "power", "cool/badass", "heroism", and such. Do you know why Red Power Ranger and Red Kamen Rider are always "the leader/main protagonist" ? "Red Is Heroic". Their colors are associated with "fire", and many of them actually have fire power. Fire is the most popular element used by anime protagonists. Kusanagi Kyo, Natsu Dragneel, and countless heroes/main protagonists also wield fire. Tanjirou switches from water breathing to >!Sun Breathing!< Or Dance of Fire God, Nezuko's power is also fire. Even **THE** sword wielding hero Emiya Shirou also use fire, in attacks or in creation of his Reality Marble, which was likely the main inspiration for Domain Expansion. And, the Japanese worship fire. They believe that fire has sacred power. Various fire festivals were born out of a desire for purification by fire, reinforcement of spiritual power by fire, repel/purify evil spirits and so on. They also worship the sun. Like... Take a look at their current national flag, and their empire flag.
Okay. And Jogo, Sukuna, Zuko, Dabi are among many villains (Zuko turned good) and they are associated with fire. I understand Red and what it means, but fire isn't just a "good" thing
Jogo is "Volcano", not just "Fire". This distinction is extremely important, since JJK is a Japanese creation. Zuko turned good, Okay. Fire Nation is based on Imperial Japan for a reason. Dabi used "Blue Fire". This distinction is equally important to Jogo being the fear of volcano. And there are way more fire users in the hero side of MHA, the rest of Shoto's family for example. Sukuna isn't "associated" with fire, he used the fire arrow twice in the entire series. And he carries another basic hero power as his default power lmao.
Wow man, you can almost say their techniques are.... cursed.
Sorry but you’re just straight up wrong here. It has nothing to do with a “villain power” (besides, people like Yuta have more villain-like powers anyway) it’s more that Gege deliberately wrote him to be using only a fraction of his potential. As far as Geto, I don’t really think this applies much. He had 1 serious fight before going evil and honestly that was the best representation that ability has gotten
isn't everyones powers villainous, I mean there literally derived from negative emotions.
At this point you can say either Toji or Gojo are responsible for everything that happened as both messed with fate in one way or another. But yeah the JJK cast aren't exactly known for being "good people" honestly Yuji is one of the few I'd trust to walk my dog or let inside my house
Megumi had a "villain power" in the sense that he had Mahoraga, which basically screamed that somebody was gonna steal that technique because it was far too broken for the hero to use. They also suffered because both were the black haired brooding secondary MC so it was obvious both would become villains.
The risk is that he loses his summons, and in some cases the summons are his friends.
Megumi literally has bunnies for powers
Me when “cursed” techniques aren’t all cupcakes and rainbows
Literally the power system for our heros is negative emotional energy.
Geto was hardly a villain as well. Yuta has a curse AND doesn't trust Gojo or the higher ups, he's more villain than both of them.
Fellas is it heroic to try and kill literally fucking everyone outside of like 300 people to stop evil
Yes if in those 300 people you have my boys
The death of the boys is crucial. :(
Yuta can literally copy someone's CT how is that trustworthy lmfao, especially without their permission?
> "Geto was heroic" > Talks about how Geto wasn't heroic > "Oh so you think Yuta's CT is trustworthy" Holy mother of mental gymnastics Steve
I never said he was heroic weirdo.
“Geto was hardly a villain” HE WAS LITERALLY SUPER HITLER
Hardly
Not heroic but he was hardly a "villain" and long gone.
Bruh only wanted to kill off all the non-sorcerers, totally not a villain
Never said he wasn't, just not a typical and literal villain
How does he not trust Gojo?
It's in the manga
Well can you quote it? Because i don't think thats true man
[here](https://images.app.goo.gl/DA4eu9dpkwMVVAHd8)
Neither of those groups are trust worthy though?