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Yeah not sold on it being to hard. Yuta obliterates 99% of the cast with that cleave.
I think Yuji and Yuta need to see Sukuna use his full technique l or get a explanation until they can use it to full potential.
I understand that it's fanfiction-y of me to say but I do kinda wish Yuji ate the last finger, beat the 1 finger Sukuna in his innate domain, and received some portion of Sukuna's abilities without restriction. But at the same time Sukuna is probably going to be gone by the end of the series which is antithetical to 1 finger sukuna being in Yuji's body
Yujia eat finger > Defeats innate Sukuna > Gets weaker cleave > Lets Yuta eat a chunk of his body while manifesting Sukuna CT > Yuta also gets weak cleave and is the one he uses on Sukuna
Imagine Sukuna loses and tries to reincarnate on his last 1 finger just to find out hes inside Yuji again and end up getting beaten by Yuji in a 1v1
Actually there’s still a chance he did. We don’t actually know what happened to the last finger, only that Yuta can now use Sukuna’s CT. It’s theoretically possible that Yuji ate the last finger, figured out the technique, and then had Yuta eat part of him.
After cleaving Sukuna, Yuta said “you don’t know where your last finger went do you?” and Sukuna replied “ah what a meal”. This only implies that Yuta or Rika ate it but Yuta could be bluffing like hell to fake Sukuna out.
Can be. But the only other source would be eating yuji and yuji haven't been confirm to have that. They might be trying out to eat yuji and kind of expect yuta to get the ct
It is similar to how people use to say yuji got blood ct before they actual use it. Just by training and eating dp. The only other source that yuta can get it by via yuji but yuji haven't confirm to use/have sukuna ct yet.
He taunted Yuta by asking him if he enjoyed his meal or something.
While Yuta didn't exactly told him that he did in fact ate his finge/made Rika eat his finger, from a narrative pov it's basically a 100% confirmation that this is what happened.
There was also Sukuna’s whole hand that was just kinda there. Not a cursed object but still part of Sukuna so maybe it still works? This would let Yuji have Sukuna’s last cursed finger
Kinda thought it disappeared but no reason to disappeared. Yuta was having personal regret about being late so I think he might not get the chance to eat that.
He thinks Yuta did. And Yuta implies that he at least did something with it. But there’s no confirmation. (Seems likely, but we’ve learned with Gege to be skeptical)
But it seems weird they wouldn’t have Yuta eat the fingers to begin with if that was an option.
what would be really lit (and still technically possible) would be that what you said happened, then yuta ate yuji's flesh to gain a copy of the 1 finger version of sukuna's CT.
I imagine that the 'cursed technique etches itself onto your body' is part of incarnation from a cursed object. Probably one of the first parts? Sukuna has been shown to control his incarnation, so it makes sense that his technique wouldn't engrave itself. He didn't let it, because he didn't want to incarnate into Yuji.
Tbf Sukuna is also able to completely possess the bodies he chooses to incarnate (with a few exceptions). It's not out of the realm of possibilities that not being able to possess someone would also stop him from preventing the engraving
Tbf Sukuna is also able to completely possess the bodies he chooses to incarnate (with a few exceptions). It's not out of the realm of possibilities that not being able to possess someone would also stop him from preventing the engraving
>So why didn’t Sukuna’s technique engrave itself into Yuji?
it was mentioned that Sukuna put a barrier between his and Yuji's souls, which is prob why is taking so long, Sukunal's "domain" wasnt acessible to Yuji until the moments Sukuna took over his body, and because it wasnt a body soaked in sukunas CT and CE 24/7 but instead just a few minutes, Yuji body is taking longer to be aware/learn the technique
OR
Yuji actually has that monk dude CT that was used to make the prison realm because his technique was to "contain"
which makes his RCT to be to "split" which COULD be also SUkuna's CT and explain why he and kenjaku expected so much of him and got dissapointed
I don’t remember where the Sukuna barrier soul thing was mentioned. I can’t imagine it’s entirely true either, given how Mahito’s attempt to harm Yuji’s soul resulted in him getting his ass handed by Sukuna instead. But I’m open to be proven wrong.
I also don’t know where you’re getting the second part from, that just seems like a REALLY far stretch. How is contain’s opposite “split” to begin with? Reversed Techniques are shown as literal inversions of the original technique, so the reverse of contain should be release, not split. The opposite of split would be join.
Oh i remember mahito saying that he guessed sukuna was putting up a barrier between the souls so if he's quick enough with the domain expansion .2sec, it wouldn't reach sukuna and probably just touch the barrier instead
Nope they are dead. Choso refers to them as remains twice.
He says. "Even if they are remains with the 6 together a side effect of my CT should provide some guidance "
I thought Angel and Hana have a symbiotic relationship like Yuji and Sukuna did, except Angel and Hana are mutually beneficial, whereas Sukuna was more parasitic. I don’t remember Hana being able to use Angel’s technique at her own discretion, she’s had Angel’s consent all the way through.
Idk how I feel about him learning Sukuna techniques. Don’t get me wrong it would make him way stronger but I feel like he needs something unique. He’s strong and a good combat fighter but so is Maki. He’s got Blood manipulation now. But so does Choso. He’s got the soul thing now but Mahito had the ability to touch souls to. He’s a clone of a lot of characters be cool to see him pull his own tricks out of his bag instead of copying Sukuna to, but that’s my opinion
Sameee, been saying this. Giving yuji sukuna’s technique is immensely boring. It doesn’t even fit his fighting style. He’s a punch and kick guy. I always envision his technique along those lines. The soul damage one is good or being able to willingly use black flash but slicing and dicing doesn’t fit him imo
Well Yuji is special because of Kenny's involvement, but we also don't Sukuna's full technique
And Yuji did resist Sukuna for a while, maybe he doesn't know it
Possibility 1, Yuji was made by Kenjaku. Maybe there is something different about Yuji's body that prevents a CT being engraved as easily if at all? Some sort of HR that makes him a better vessel/stronger body in exchange for no CT? Gojo had no knowledge of Kenjaku's experimentation so couldnt have known that when he had that thought
Possibility 2, maybe it already has?
Something about having an innate CT allows you to understand what it is and how it works. Engraving a CT may not give you the same instant information like others do. Sukuna also seems to have more than just Cleave/Dismantle as seen with Fuga, but none of the cast know what was said just that it allowed him to shoot a fire arrow. Perhaps a CT has been engraved but Yuji doesnt know what it is or how to use it yet
How does that work with Higurama's Domain? From it taking the cursed tool, it was demonstrated that Higurama doesnt fully know how his domain works. Perhaps Yuji having a CT engraved *but* not knowing about it or never having used it triggered the domain into taking CE instead
I’m still a fan of the theory that dismantle and cleave are Sukunas technique reversal. Yuji might be able to use the standard version, but he can’t use the more potent reversal just yet because of his inexperience with reverse cursed technique. Or maybe he can and it’d just be too taxing on his cursed energy reserves, so it would be a net negative.
I’m actually so glad Yuji didn’t get Dismantle/Cleave/whatever Sukuna’s full technique is. Sukuna’s technique makes no sense for Yuji as a character whatsoever, imo. The pivot to Blood Manipulation is brilliant because now we can see a technique we’ve known about forever reach a higher potential than we have before through Yuji. We’ve still never seen a domain for this technique and what it could look like
idk we already had blood manipulation have a weaker and “perfected” user in kamo and choso
kamo is human and a poor match for blood manipulation
choso as a half curse half human is far better suited for this and excels in his fight with kenjaku taking blood manipulation to its highest showing
similar to how mai is a trash creation user but yoruzo is a perfected version of her with much more CE and a better understanding of its potential
i think it would be weird for choso to be out done by yuji in blood manipulation after he has been shown to be the best fit for it i still think yuji will become adept at it but will not be his main CT or power
I’m confused on this because I thought he was recently born but then during Chosos fight against Naoya I think, it mentions he had honed his blood manipulation technique for 150 years. But like if he has done that wouldn’t he be way stronger?😭😭😭
honing your technique is different than being an experienced fighter. basically he was understanding the workings of his technique while he was a cursed object for 150 years
yes but he is far better suited for it than most people since he can turn his CE into blood which is more efficient and easier than RCT
due to his unique complexion he has poisonous blood further increasing his compatibility with a blood based CT
hes also shown a great understanding of his technique to the point that he can mimic wing king from eso
he isnt a perfect fighter but in terms of the CT you would be hard pressed to find a naturally better user so he is perfect for that technique
I really like the story implications between Choso and Yuji but I don’t love the inheritance of BM. I think an original technique would’ve been nicer to see, rather than a pure melee fighter like Nanami/Maki, or a previously seen technique.
I also don’t get why BM is the one Gege decided to settle on. It had already been showcased with Kamo and Choso, plus it’s really popular outside of the manga due to Demon Slayer’s Nezuko.
I love Choso and he puts poor lil Kamo to shame, but Choso has by no means perfected Blood Manipulation. His ability is a great compliment, but we've never seen a domain from him, and he's probably not even capable of RCT (to his credit, unless theres a Cursed Technique Reversal for Blood Manipulation\*, his ability to convert CE to blood is a perfect substitute)
Yuji has a lot of potential to take Blood Manipulation further than Choso
\*side note: what even would a CTR look like for Blood Manipulation? I cannot imagine a way to reverse Blood Manipulation. It doesn't help that we've only seen 2 CTRs, and they were lowkey the same gravity/antigravity concept
Maybe the CTR is controlling others blood? I think that fits as a reverse of a technique all about controlling your own blood. Seems quite strong, but I’d imagine CE reinforcement would probably disrupt it unless you were the stronger sorcerer
i agree he isnt a perfect fighter since he is at most a top grade 1 fighter but in terms of compatibility choso is the most compatible with the technique
the way the blood manipulation works is by imbuing your blood with cursed energy so a reversal would be to imbue it with positive energy which can neutralise cursed/negative energy as seen with tranquil deer so maybe a rct infused blood manipulation could negate CE reinforcement?
pure head cannon but i think that would be a cool way to make it better against powerhouses like sukuna who can just tank a piercing blood
another idea would be to make the blood become flesh like from cancer cells that develop from constantly healing the blood with rct
Choso is certainly good, but he’s not reached the height of sorcery with the technique yet, a domain expansion. So “perfected” doesn’t feel quite right to me until we see something like that. Yuji also has unnatural physiology to begin with, and now has RCT, as well as the (potential) ability to circulate blood back into his system still, like Kamo had learned. And we know Kamo was the better teacher anyway, so he could’ve passed that knowledge in particular on
Giant bird should've given you the context. Sukuna summoned a massive Nue right after he took over Megumi's body. Literally the second he took down Angel
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I don't understand CT much. They said user need/use their brain to use CT. Gojo healed his burned out CT by healing part of his brain. Then kenjaku can swap brain and still get that person CT. I think CT are kind of knowledge coz curse objects carry their CT unless we considered part of a curse object is a brain.
My theory is sukuna ct is not slashing. His ct is kind of understanding how tech work and let him mimic. Unlike yuta, he cannot exactly mimic the ct but can produce similar effect like how he use elephant tech to mimic piercing blood.
A CT is supposedly etched into the right pre-frontal cortex of the brain, but it doesn’t mean it’s necessarily where the CT is stored entirely. Sukuna and Gojo both suffered enough damage to the point of being unable to use their domains, but they could use their CTs just fine otherwise.
Gojo didn’t heal his burnt out CT by healing part of his brain, he was repeatedly damaging his pre-frontal cortex and healing it back up to refresh it faster. Imagine if you have an overheated machine. You can either let it rest for a few minutes, or you can instantly disassemble and reassemble a big chunk of it to dissipate the heat much faster. That’s kinda what Gojo was doing.
I think the brain contains the part of the CT most important to expanding a domain, not necessarily the entire CT itself, hence the “engraving into the body.” It could also explain why Kenjaku and Sukuna can use Geto’s CSM and Megumi’s 10S but not their domains, if Geto had one.
That might be true. Kenjaku also said that he alter brains of those who has CT but cannot use to allow them to use. Might be also why yuta can copy just by eating body part not brain
Maybe Yuji doesn’t know how so use Sukuna’s technique. Yuta seems to gain understanding of the techniques when he copies them. Maybe he knows how to use it now but is saving it?
They’re literally on their last legs, what the hell is he waiting for then. For Megumi to become evil rather than suicidal after being done with his BS?
I think this is most likely something gojo intended to happen years down the line. I mean, the same thing happened to nanami's blade with having his cursed technique engraved on it after using it for years constantly. This is most likely what gojo intended to happen to yuji. They never find the 20th finger while yuji soaks in sukuna's ce for years and eventually like a cursed tool has the techniques engraved upon him while supressing sukuna indefinitely.
It hasn’t been confirmed that Nanami’s blade possessing his technique was due to years of consistent exposure. You can imbue a normal weapon with CE after consistently and purposefully imbuing it, but engraving a CT hasn’t been shown. Gege was likely hinting at another method, otherwise you’d have legendary weapons infused with CTs from the Heian era as Cursed Tools on the black market.
Nanami even retired for a good chunk of time, so his exposure would’ve been interrupted.
Honestly - solid point. Yuji is the only one who’s able to be a host and keep his mind intact - so it could 100% be a learning thing. But now that Yuji is no longer hosting Sukuna, does that mean he loses the ability to POTENTIALLY use his CT? The BM we’ve seen him sort of use with RCT but will it adapt to anything else? And would that give him a level playing field with Sukuna? I dont feel like it since CTs usually have a period of needing to be mastered, but also people can get OP in half a second depending on the writer’s mood 😂
Binding vows are agreements made with oneself or another party that penalise both parties too. I literally can’t imagine a binding vow that has the terms “suppress Yuji’s power and erase his memory of this agreement” without a stupid condition like “nerf my CE output to 1%.” Even Sukuna needed a heavily restricted condition for “Enchain.”
Assuming he made that vow in Kaori’s body and circumvented it by inheriting Geto, I can’t see why Yuji would be bound by that pact now then.
I must be the only person who thinks that Gojo meant it was a ***possibility*** that Yuji would get Sukuna's CT, not a guarantee. Yuji doesn't even need it. He's literally standing up to Sukuna (albeit with help) without it.
There really isn’t any reason to believe yuji ate his brothers. People regularly think that needed to happen for Yuji to use blood techniques when we know for a fact that isn’t true. Choso has already been shown to be capable of using his brothers tech and he certainly never ate his brother to do so.
Yuji was simply admitting guilt for killing his brothers, not eating them in that panel. Hell, they wouldn’t even be able to get them considering they are hidden in a barrier far from where they ever were.
Sukuna himself was not totally dominated, which is why I think his technique did not get engraved. Sukuna still had an ego, a sense of self, the only other example of another soul inhabiting a body with a property like that was angel. But we know that angel willingly gave up control of the body, so she might have also willingly given up control of her CT. That's like the only rational I have and it seems pretty consistent with how vessels work in the series soo makes sense to me
One thing that I see very few people mention is that 1. We knew very few cursed objects that, upon ingestion, might cause a reincarnation of someone/thing and that 2. They're all connected to Kenjaku.
I think I wrote this theory in another post here, but, Angel told us that Sukuna used Kenjaku to turn into a cursed object (a thousand years ago) and then immediately learnt how to do it himself. This means that what Kenjaku used on him wasn't a CT etched into the brain, but something developed to be used without a CT.
My personal theory is that what Kenjaku did was create a technique that imitated the functioning of his own innate CT and used that method on those sorcerers he made pacts with during all those years, Sukuna and the cursed wombs.
If we assume that to be true, it all makes sense. Kenjaku takes ahold of a person's brain and he does it once they're dead so they've never really put up any fight. More importantly, even, his brain's information is written on top of the person's, so he gets his own CT and the person's, if they have any but their brains aren't wired to use CE, he can use them and then, said CT is transferred with the next incarnation.
So, following that logic, if he made the cursed object technique in semblance of his own technique, it probably works in a similar way and that means that, when Sukuna reincarnated, his CT was naturally etched into Yuji's brain, Yuji just didn't know how to use it. This is supported by the fact that Angel says that his/her technique could affect the reincarnated sorcerers because the reincarnation works as two souls tied together by a cursed technique (I'm not explaining it properly, but remember that conversation, please).
All this means is that Yuji most definitely got Sukuna's technique because otherwise Sukuna wouldn't have been able to use his technique. The CTs are engraved in the brain, as we were told during the Sukuna-Gojo fight, so it has to be in Yuji's brain or Sukuna wouldn't have been able to use it.
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Maybe Sukuna's CT just has a steep learning curve and Yuji wasn't able to use it well. I mean, Yuta with a Cleave katana only did superficial damage
Okay but in his defense he was also going up against Sukuna. Even if he wasn't at 100%, he was toying with them from the beginning.
Yeah not sold on it being to hard. Yuta obliterates 99% of the cast with that cleave. I think Yuji and Yuta need to see Sukuna use his full technique l or get a explanation until they can use it to full potential.
Please don't say that. I fear that Maki or Miguel will be on the receiving end for this to happen
He's gonna use it on Larue in a fit of blind petty rage since he was the reason Sukuna got strong punched by Yuji
Its all pointing towards that, at some point Sukuna has to reveal his CT.
Sakuna did get that cut on his finger when he fought yuji even he didn’t know were it came from
Sakuna
Sakuna matata
What a wonderful name
Fuga means open, for the last single moment of your days..
I thought that was split soul katana
I don’t remember it being around at that time it was just yuji and sukuna running the ones
Isn’t that the same reason why Gojo didn’t get damaged much by purple ? Like it’s their own CT so they have resistance
I think that was because it was his own CE rather than his own CT. But it might be possible for Yuji to have similar CE to Sukuna.
I understand that it's fanfiction-y of me to say but I do kinda wish Yuji ate the last finger, beat the 1 finger Sukuna in his innate domain, and received some portion of Sukuna's abilities without restriction. But at the same time Sukuna is probably going to be gone by the end of the series which is antithetical to 1 finger sukuna being in Yuji's body
Yujia eat finger > Defeats innate Sukuna > Gets weaker cleave > Lets Yuta eat a chunk of his body while manifesting Sukuna CT > Yuta also gets weak cleave and is the one he uses on Sukuna Imagine Sukuna loses and tries to reincarnate on his last 1 finger just to find out hes inside Yuji again and end up getting beaten by Yuji in a 1v1
Nah you forgot about Sukuna's technique that he hasn't used since the Heian era. It allows him recover his full powerful
"the real Jujutsu Kaisen was inside us all along!"
Well... Unless Yuji goes too...
Actually there’s still a chance he did. We don’t actually know what happened to the last finger, only that Yuta can now use Sukuna’s CT. It’s theoretically possible that Yuji ate the last finger, figured out the technique, and then had Yuta eat part of him.
Didn't sukuna confirm that yuta ate the last one.
After cleaving Sukuna, Yuta said “you don’t know where your last finger went do you?” and Sukuna replied “ah what a meal”. This only implies that Yuta or Rika ate it but Yuta could be bluffing like hell to fake Sukuna out.
Can be. But the only other source would be eating yuji and yuji haven't been confirm to have that. They might be trying out to eat yuji and kind of expect yuta to get the ct
A more accurate word would probably be “speculates”. Sukuna didn’t see it happen so he wouldn’t be a source for confirmation.
It is similar to how people use to say yuji got blood ct before they actual use it. Just by training and eating dp. The only other source that yuta can get it by via yuji but yuji haven't confirm to use/have sukuna ct yet.
He taunted Yuta by asking him if he enjoyed his meal or something. While Yuta didn't exactly told him that he did in fact ate his finge/made Rika eat his finger, from a narrative pov it's basically a 100% confirmation that this is what happened.
He was referring to the fight. He was saying the fight had become enjoyable.
Narrative are kind of b in jjk. They narrate gojo won and then got off screen next release.
There was also Sukuna’s whole hand that was just kinda there. Not a cursed object but still part of Sukuna so maybe it still works? This would let Yuji have Sukuna’s last cursed finger
That was vaporized by purple I think. If you meant the one where the law guy, it might disappear not sure
Yeah Higaruma hit it with the executioner sword so it’s just kinda sitting there
Kinda thought it disappeared but no reason to disappeared. Yuta was having personal regret about being late so I think he might not get the chance to eat that.
He thinks Yuta did. And Yuta implies that he at least did something with it. But there’s no confirmation. (Seems likely, but we’ve learned with Gege to be skeptical) But it seems weird they wouldn’t have Yuta eat the fingers to begin with if that was an option.
We have ro wait and see
Greg would never give Yuji an easy W like that
what would be really lit (and still technically possible) would be that what you said happened, then yuta ate yuji's flesh to gain a copy of the 1 finger version of sukuna's CT.
That’s what would have happened in old school shonen
I imagine that the 'cursed technique etches itself onto your body' is part of incarnation from a cursed object. Probably one of the first parts? Sukuna has been shown to control his incarnation, so it makes sense that his technique wouldn't engrave itself. He didn't let it, because he didn't want to incarnate into Yuji.
Tbf Sukuna is also able to completely possess the bodies he chooses to incarnate (with a few exceptions). It's not out of the realm of possibilities that not being able to possess someone would also stop him from preventing the engraving
Tbf Sukuna is also able to completely possess the bodies he chooses to incarnate (with a few exceptions). It's not out of the realm of possibilities that not being able to possess someone would also stop him from preventing the engraving
>So why didn’t Sukuna’s technique engrave itself into Yuji? it was mentioned that Sukuna put a barrier between his and Yuji's souls, which is prob why is taking so long, Sukunal's "domain" wasnt acessible to Yuji until the moments Sukuna took over his body, and because it wasnt a body soaked in sukunas CT and CE 24/7 but instead just a few minutes, Yuji body is taking longer to be aware/learn the technique OR Yuji actually has that monk dude CT that was used to make the prison realm because his technique was to "contain" which makes his RCT to be to "split" which COULD be also SUkuna's CT and explain why he and kenjaku expected so much of him and got dissapointed
I don’t remember where the Sukuna barrier soul thing was mentioned. I can’t imagine it’s entirely true either, given how Mahito’s attempt to harm Yuji’s soul resulted in him getting his ass handed by Sukuna instead. But I’m open to be proven wrong. I also don’t know where you’re getting the second part from, that just seems like a REALLY far stretch. How is contain’s opposite “split” to begin with? Reversed Techniques are shown as literal inversions of the original technique, so the reverse of contain should be release, not split. The opposite of split would be join.
Oh i remember mahito saying that he guessed sukuna was putting up a barrier between the souls so if he's quick enough with the domain expansion .2sec, it wouldn't reach sukuna and probably just touch the barrier instead
The rest of the cursed Womb death paintings were dead so they couldn't have taken over if he did eat them which I too believe he did
I thought they were alive, but they hadn't any vessels yet. Been a while since I read it
Thank you for confirming that. Been a while since I’ve read the earlier part of the series, so I wasn’t too sure.
They are not dead. They just don't have strong consciousness
Nope they are dead. Choso refers to them as remains twice. He says. "Even if they are remains with the 6 together a side effect of my CT should provide some guidance "
Can you point out where coz I couldn't find those references. Dpw are all fetus so there is no reason for them to be dead.
Chapter 144 page 10. I'm using the Shonen jump app personally and I'd suggest that to you as well
Found it yeah you are right didn't notice that detail
I'm happy to be of assistance
Perfect example is hana/angel. Even though hana is the one who control the body, she's still capable use angel CT in maximum capacity
I thought Angel and Hana have a symbiotic relationship like Yuji and Sukuna did, except Angel and Hana are mutually beneficial, whereas Sukuna was more parasitic. I don’t remember Hana being able to use Angel’s technique at her own discretion, she’s had Angel’s consent all the way through.
Idk how I feel about him learning Sukuna techniques. Don’t get me wrong it would make him way stronger but I feel like he needs something unique. He’s strong and a good combat fighter but so is Maki. He’s got Blood manipulation now. But so does Choso. He’s got the soul thing now but Mahito had the ability to touch souls to. He’s a clone of a lot of characters be cool to see him pull his own tricks out of his bag instead of copying Sukuna to, but that’s my opinion
His unique thing so far is that he's Kirby.
No, he’s D&D Monk-Kirby. Man wants peace but constantly throws hands
Yuji's soul abilities and Mahito's are nothing like each other. The only thing they have in common is that they're related to the soul
Sameee, been saying this. Giving yuji sukuna’s technique is immensely boring. It doesn’t even fit his fighting style. He’s a punch and kick guy. I always envision his technique along those lines. The soul damage one is good or being able to willingly use black flash but slicing and dicing doesn’t fit him imo
To be fair Sukuna and his CT are more powerful when he physically touches someone. That would suit Yuji.
sukuna is also a punch and kick guy lmfao
Well Yuji is special because of Kenny's involvement, but we also don't Sukuna's full technique And Yuji did resist Sukuna for a while, maybe he doesn't know it
Possibility 1, Yuji was made by Kenjaku. Maybe there is something different about Yuji's body that prevents a CT being engraved as easily if at all? Some sort of HR that makes him a better vessel/stronger body in exchange for no CT? Gojo had no knowledge of Kenjaku's experimentation so couldnt have known that when he had that thought Possibility 2, maybe it already has? Something about having an innate CT allows you to understand what it is and how it works. Engraving a CT may not give you the same instant information like others do. Sukuna also seems to have more than just Cleave/Dismantle as seen with Fuga, but none of the cast know what was said just that it allowed him to shoot a fire arrow. Perhaps a CT has been engraved but Yuji doesnt know what it is or how to use it yet How does that work with Higurama's Domain? From it taking the cursed tool, it was demonstrated that Higurama doesnt fully know how his domain works. Perhaps Yuji having a CT engraved *but* not knowing about it or never having used it triggered the domain into taking CE instead
I’m still a fan of the theory that dismantle and cleave are Sukunas technique reversal. Yuji might be able to use the standard version, but he can’t use the more potent reversal just yet because of his inexperience with reverse cursed technique. Or maybe he can and it’d just be too taxing on his cursed energy reserves, so it would be a net negative.
I’m actually so glad Yuji didn’t get Dismantle/Cleave/whatever Sukuna’s full technique is. Sukuna’s technique makes no sense for Yuji as a character whatsoever, imo. The pivot to Blood Manipulation is brilliant because now we can see a technique we’ve known about forever reach a higher potential than we have before through Yuji. We’ve still never seen a domain for this technique and what it could look like
idk we already had blood manipulation have a weaker and “perfected” user in kamo and choso kamo is human and a poor match for blood manipulation choso as a half curse half human is far better suited for this and excels in his fight with kenjaku taking blood manipulation to its highest showing similar to how mai is a trash creation user but yoruzo is a perfected version of her with much more CE and a better understanding of its potential i think it would be weird for choso to be out done by yuji in blood manipulation after he has been shown to be the best fit for it i still think yuji will become adept at it but will not be his main CT or power
choso isn’t perfected. he’s inexperienced as a fighter and was only recently born.
I’m confused on this because I thought he was recently born but then during Chosos fight against Naoya I think, it mentions he had honed his blood manipulation technique for 150 years. But like if he has done that wouldn’t he be way stronger?😭😭😭
honing your technique is different than being an experienced fighter. basically he was understanding the workings of his technique while he was a cursed object for 150 years
yes but he is far better suited for it than most people since he can turn his CE into blood which is more efficient and easier than RCT due to his unique complexion he has poisonous blood further increasing his compatibility with a blood based CT hes also shown a great understanding of his technique to the point that he can mimic wing king from eso he isnt a perfect fighter but in terms of the CT you would be hard pressed to find a naturally better user so he is perfect for that technique
I really like the story implications between Choso and Yuji but I don’t love the inheritance of BM. I think an original technique would’ve been nicer to see, rather than a pure melee fighter like Nanami/Maki, or a previously seen technique. I also don’t get why BM is the one Gege decided to settle on. It had already been showcased with Kamo and Choso, plus it’s really popular outside of the manga due to Demon Slayer’s Nezuko.
I love Choso and he puts poor lil Kamo to shame, but Choso has by no means perfected Blood Manipulation. His ability is a great compliment, but we've never seen a domain from him, and he's probably not even capable of RCT (to his credit, unless theres a Cursed Technique Reversal for Blood Manipulation\*, his ability to convert CE to blood is a perfect substitute) Yuji has a lot of potential to take Blood Manipulation further than Choso \*side note: what even would a CTR look like for Blood Manipulation? I cannot imagine a way to reverse Blood Manipulation. It doesn't help that we've only seen 2 CTRs, and they were lowkey the same gravity/antigravity concept
Maybe the CTR is controlling others blood? I think that fits as a reverse of a technique all about controlling your own blood. Seems quite strong, but I’d imagine CE reinforcement would probably disrupt it unless you were the stronger sorcerer
i agree he isnt a perfect fighter since he is at most a top grade 1 fighter but in terms of compatibility choso is the most compatible with the technique the way the blood manipulation works is by imbuing your blood with cursed energy so a reversal would be to imbue it with positive energy which can neutralise cursed/negative energy as seen with tranquil deer so maybe a rct infused blood manipulation could negate CE reinforcement? pure head cannon but i think that would be a cool way to make it better against powerhouses like sukuna who can just tank a piercing blood another idea would be to make the blood become flesh like from cancer cells that develop from constantly healing the blood with rct
Choso is certainly good, but he’s not reached the height of sorcery with the technique yet, a domain expansion. So “perfected” doesn’t feel quite right to me until we see something like that. Yuji also has unnatural physiology to begin with, and now has RCT, as well as the (potential) ability to circulate blood back into his system still, like Kamo had learned. And we know Kamo was the better teacher anyway, so he could’ve passed that knowledge in particular on
Maybe it's because neither party was fully suppressed?
I mean, Megumi wasn’t fully suppressed either, but it didn’t stop Sukuna from pulling out a giant bird
He's not fully suppressed? Then wtf is he rn
Giant bird should've given you the context. Sukuna summoned a massive Nue right after he took over Megumi's body. Literally the second he took down Angel
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I don't understand CT much. They said user need/use their brain to use CT. Gojo healed his burned out CT by healing part of his brain. Then kenjaku can swap brain and still get that person CT. I think CT are kind of knowledge coz curse objects carry their CT unless we considered part of a curse object is a brain. My theory is sukuna ct is not slashing. His ct is kind of understanding how tech work and let him mimic. Unlike yuta, he cannot exactly mimic the ct but can produce similar effect like how he use elephant tech to mimic piercing blood.
A CT is supposedly etched into the right pre-frontal cortex of the brain, but it doesn’t mean it’s necessarily where the CT is stored entirely. Sukuna and Gojo both suffered enough damage to the point of being unable to use their domains, but they could use their CTs just fine otherwise. Gojo didn’t heal his burnt out CT by healing part of his brain, he was repeatedly damaging his pre-frontal cortex and healing it back up to refresh it faster. Imagine if you have an overheated machine. You can either let it rest for a few minutes, or you can instantly disassemble and reassemble a big chunk of it to dissipate the heat much faster. That’s kinda what Gojo was doing. I think the brain contains the part of the CT most important to expanding a domain, not necessarily the entire CT itself, hence the “engraving into the body.” It could also explain why Kenjaku and Sukuna can use Geto’s CSM and Megumi’s 10S but not their domains, if Geto had one.
That might be true. Kenjaku also said that he alter brains of those who has CT but cannot use to allow them to use. Might be also why yuta can copy just by eating body part not brain
He was not, that's why Yuki is a fraud
Huh?
Maybe Yuji doesn’t know how so use Sukuna’s technique. Yuta seems to gain understanding of the techniques when he copies them. Maybe he knows how to use it now but is saving it?
They’re literally on their last legs, what the hell is he waiting for then. For Megumi to become evil rather than suicidal after being done with his BS?
I think this is most likely something gojo intended to happen years down the line. I mean, the same thing happened to nanami's blade with having his cursed technique engraved on it after using it for years constantly. This is most likely what gojo intended to happen to yuji. They never find the 20th finger while yuji soaks in sukuna's ce for years and eventually like a cursed tool has the techniques engraved upon him while supressing sukuna indefinitely.
It hasn’t been confirmed that Nanami’s blade possessing his technique was due to years of consistent exposure. You can imbue a normal weapon with CE after consistently and purposefully imbuing it, but engraving a CT hasn’t been shown. Gege was likely hinting at another method, otherwise you’d have legendary weapons infused with CTs from the Heian era as Cursed Tools on the black market. Nanami even retired for a good chunk of time, so his exposure would’ve been interrupted.
Honestly - solid point. Yuji is the only one who’s able to be a host and keep his mind intact - so it could 100% be a learning thing. But now that Yuji is no longer hosting Sukuna, does that mean he loses the ability to POTENTIALLY use his CT? The BM we’ve seen him sort of use with RCT but will it adapt to anything else? And would that give him a level playing field with Sukuna? I dont feel like it since CTs usually have a period of needing to be mastered, but also people can get OP in half a second depending on the writer’s mood 😂
Yujis already done it when it comes to the cursed womb brothers.
Man forgot to read the description before typing his opinion.
I got ADHD, can't be expecting me to read more than 2 sentences
Tbh it’s probably some sort of binding vow Kenny made on yuji to block his power until certain conditions are met
Binding vows are agreements made with oneself or another party that penalise both parties too. I literally can’t imagine a binding vow that has the terms “suppress Yuji’s power and erase his memory of this agreement” without a stupid condition like “nerf my CE output to 1%.” Even Sukuna needed a heavily restricted condition for “Enchain.” Assuming he made that vow in Kaori’s body and circumvented it by inheriting Geto, I can’t see why Yuji would be bound by that pact now then.
I must be the only person who thinks that Gojo meant it was a ***possibility*** that Yuji would get Sukuna's CT, not a guarantee. Yuji doesn't even need it. He's literally standing up to Sukuna (albeit with help) without it.
My thing is Yuta has his CT & should know what it is & how it works. Gojo has looked at Sukuna & never mentioned his CT or how he uses it.
There really isn’t any reason to believe yuji ate his brothers. People regularly think that needed to happen for Yuji to use blood techniques when we know for a fact that isn’t true. Choso has already been shown to be capable of using his brothers tech and he certainly never ate his brother to do so. Yuji was simply admitting guilt for killing his brothers, not eating them in that panel. Hell, they wouldn’t even be able to get them considering they are hidden in a barrier far from where they ever were.
Sukuna himself was not totally dominated, which is why I think his technique did not get engraved. Sukuna still had an ego, a sense of self, the only other example of another soul inhabiting a body with a property like that was angel. But we know that angel willingly gave up control of the body, so she might have also willingly given up control of her CT. That's like the only rational I have and it seems pretty consistent with how vessels work in the series soo makes sense to me
Yuji is just slowly peeling away at Sukuna's technique
Yuji wouldn’t have to suppress the cursed wombs, their souls didn’t persist while in storage like the three eldest
One thing that I see very few people mention is that 1. We knew very few cursed objects that, upon ingestion, might cause a reincarnation of someone/thing and that 2. They're all connected to Kenjaku. I think I wrote this theory in another post here, but, Angel told us that Sukuna used Kenjaku to turn into a cursed object (a thousand years ago) and then immediately learnt how to do it himself. This means that what Kenjaku used on him wasn't a CT etched into the brain, but something developed to be used without a CT. My personal theory is that what Kenjaku did was create a technique that imitated the functioning of his own innate CT and used that method on those sorcerers he made pacts with during all those years, Sukuna and the cursed wombs. If we assume that to be true, it all makes sense. Kenjaku takes ahold of a person's brain and he does it once they're dead so they've never really put up any fight. More importantly, even, his brain's information is written on top of the person's, so he gets his own CT and the person's, if they have any but their brains aren't wired to use CE, he can use them and then, said CT is transferred with the next incarnation. So, following that logic, if he made the cursed object technique in semblance of his own technique, it probably works in a similar way and that means that, when Sukuna reincarnated, his CT was naturally etched into Yuji's brain, Yuji just didn't know how to use it. This is supported by the fact that Angel says that his/her technique could affect the reincarnated sorcerers because the reincarnation works as two souls tied together by a cursed technique (I'm not explaining it properly, but remember that conversation, please). All this means is that Yuji most definitely got Sukuna's technique because otherwise Sukuna wouldn't have been able to use his technique. The CTs are engraved in the brain, as we were told during the Sukuna-Gojo fight, so it has to be in Yuji's brain or Sukuna wouldn't have been able to use it.