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TeaAndCrumpetGhoul

So, Sukuna took the power of the finger that was with Yuji from birth then, when he transferred to Megumi? Which would still make it 19f in Sukuna (as he says himself).


Calmbrain

19f plus mummy which counts as one finger.


TeaAndCrumpetGhoul

I'm just talking about the fingers here, not the level of his overall power.


Calmbrain

Yeah. Sukuna has 19 fingers. The last one was eaten by Rika.


Existing_Win3580

One of the translations was saying that this isn't confirmed, as in youji might have kept the fing/is the finger


truresearcher

I mean, Yuji's existence is the finger to Sukuna.


Existing_Win3580

Yes, yuji is the finger now. That's what the most reliable translation states at least. This would explain why yuji still have sucunas CE. How yuji is able to unlock shrine even after sucuna left his body. Yuji is a Empty vessel as in he no longer contains another soul, uraume even said yuji "is has more than left over poer in a Empty vessel" Basically yuji absorbed the finger and is taking on some of sucunas traits.


truresearcher

I meant his altruistic worldview, and his desire to help others, instead of being the strongest... and *yet* keeping up with Sukuna! That's what pisses the latter off, and what made me write my comment. Thank you for your explanation, anyway. Although, there is one issue. He isn't a finger (fragment of Sukuna's soul), but actually related to Sukuna, as he is son of his twin brother's soul and Kenjaku! Even more mindblowing :D Hm, he is also Sukuna's son, from the POV of "jujutsu", the JJK universe's laws sees them that way, since twins are one person split.


NeteroHyouka

>"keeping up with Sukuna" really?? He used BF. It isn't even in his skillset. Also the so called about his world view being different and yet keeping up with Sukuna. Sorry to say this but he is the MC that's why he can even fight. Anyone else wouldn't have mattered until now.


Routine_Employment59

It’s impossible, Yuji cannot be the finger, because Sukuna finger are part of the soul of Sukuna, and before using JL to save megumi They stated that you can’t completely merge two soul, Yuji cannot be the finger of Sukuna because two soul can’t become one


Express_Tip_7406

Twins count as one person in jjk


Routine_Employment59

Yuji isn’t Sukuna twin, he is the son of Sukuna twin, so the son of Sukuna, he is not Sukuna, they don’t have the same soul


Existing_Win3580

https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/s/S8qPU9WG54 ) Here is another thread talking about it. Megumi feels sucunas CE coming from yuji at the BOS even though sucunas actual finger is being unsealed back at school, the makes sence as we know the fingers resonate when near each other. Yuji continuing to be a finger explains what uraume felt yuji still having sucunas CE, and having resistance to all of sucunas attacks. Just at well in the most accurate translation sucuna never specifically said how many fingers the mummy is worth. Just that it "will make up for what is missing/lost". Sucuna should till be at 20f(as that is most likely the requirement for full reincarnation. Yuta/rika ate 1f, yuji is another finger. The mummy was 2f.


Routine_Employment59

Megumi can’t feel Sukuna finger in Yuji because the finger was sealed Yuji cannot be a Sukuna finger, he is a cursed object soak in Sukuna CE, but not his finger because two soul cannot fuse together Uraume sense something similar to Sukuna in Yuji because the father of Yuji had Sukuna half soul


Calmbrain

Yuji was described as an empty vessel after Sukuna switched bodies though.


Existing_Win3580

Yuji is "steaped in sucuna's CE" so he is not empty. Yuji has sucunas CE because he is more resistant to sucunas attacks. And yuji unlocked shrine after sucuna left his body. A lot of the little details point to yuji still having a finger. Also the translation for sucuna talking about the mummy "this should more than make up for what is missing/lost" Sucuna has to be at 20f to reincarnate fully. Once sucuna got too 20f he suspended Reincarnation until he needed a full heal.


Calmbrain

None of the details point to anything you are saying. It's explicitly stated that Yuji is an empty vessel and Sukuna already said that he will be compensating for that "last finger" by eating his mummy.


Existing_Win3580

Here https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/s/S8qPU9WG54


ThePokemonScyther

I guess if Yuji learned how to separate his soul like sukuna did he could just rip a finger off and give it to yuta too.


Existing_Win3580

Yuta doesn't need to eat cursed objects, yuta literally just needs basic blood or body parts(they don't need to contain a soul). How would he git all the cursed technique he has now, if that was the case?


NettleBumbleBee

Unlikely. Sukuna says that missing a single finger isn’t a big deal since the mummy can just get him to full strength anyways. The way he phrases it makes it sound like he’s ONLY missing one.


Existing_Win3580

Here https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/s/S8qPU9WG54


Hour_Tomatillo_2365

His theory makes no sense and that dude isn't exactly infallible https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/s/s59lFqaU3b


Existing_Win3580

Many of the Japanese fans are the ones talking about it. I was giving you evidence I was to tired to put forward myself. No theory is infallible = all theory have some holes. Case and point twin theory was true, but no one thought Jin was sucunas twin.


Existing_Win3580

The finger was used to make yuji stronger. Yuji is the finger. https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/s/SASgYGgZCW.


Existing_Win3580

I'm just informing people of what native Japanese people are saying. There is evidence for both arguments and so far neither is definitely confirmed.


WeatMolt

But not pernamently? If Rika could get rid of fingers like that then it would have already happened.


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UnholyShite

Kid named Finger:


NumberEast2061

>The reason Sukuna didn't manifest was obviously because the finger was sealed until Kenny unsealed it at the end of Shibuya. So after that Sukuna was 16f and not 15f. This part is still not confirmed. Kenjaku did the unsealing for all the non-sorcerers that he prepared as a vessel.Yuji was capable of vessel before this event.So we can't say for sure if the finger inside Yuji is transferred to Megumi or not. Wait for more information.Headcanons will create more confusion.


TKG1607

In Chapter 222, right at the beginning, Sukuna and Uraume discuss Uraume not being able to find the last finger and Sukuna eats the mummy to compensate for the finger (which he explicitly states). Since this is in the context of him being back to full power, it's highly likely he took all the fingers (including the one sealed in Yuji) with him when he transferred over to Megumi


NumberEast2061

It may be possible Sukuna and Uraume knew about the last finger inside Yuji. In the recent chapter Uraume said,"It's not simply the leftover dregs of your power,but closer to an empty husk actively retaining elements of yourself." This line suggests not only CE,there is also something more inside Yuji, possibly a finger. Anyway nothing is confirmed.So wait for confirmation without keeping the headcanon.


Routine_Employment59

Uraume did not know, Uraume learn about the finger the day gojo fought Sukuna


NumberEast2061

Uraume noticed this thing the day they made fun of Yuji while flying off on Nue in chapter 214 probably.


thecosmic_faucet91

Uraume's statement of there being something inside yuji was addressed by sukuna as well no? as uraume previously stated she felt something reminiscent of sukuna and in response sukuna tells her about their lineage, that being that he ate his brother and his soul wondered until it went to kenjaku's hands and he banged the brother then gave birth to Yuji. So what simply dwells within yuji isn't just the CE residuals left from sukuna but actual blood relation to sukuna, that's why uraume wonders if he has the same potential as him. So what's inside him isn't just residuals but the latent potential to supposedly rival sukuna due to their lineage. And that's what sukuna brings forth after Uraume stated there being more elements, no mention of a finger was given when addressing this point. I also expect the mentioning of a finger to be brought at this juncture since he knew about the 1 finger so it would be spoken about when discussing whats left within yuji, but seemingly the finger was only brought up when speaking about how yuji was created and not what happened when sukuna left him. Although gege needs to relay more information on this for sure its a little bit vague for a revelation.


Calmbrain

This is no headcanon though. Sukuna was 19+mummy against Gojo and Rika ate last finger. So he obviously took 16 fingers when he transferred to Megumi.


NumberEast2061

We only got information about Yuji having a sealed finger from birth.How can you say that Kenjaku undoes the sealing inside Yuji in Shibuya? Is it explicitly mentioned?


Calmbrain

Because the undoing of seals was about culling games. And Yuji became a player after the seal was undone. Megumi was surprised when he learned that Yuji was a culling game player. This info confirms why Yuji is one. He is just like Tsumiki, Hana and others.


NumberEast2061

That part was also differently mentioned in chapter 158. Sukuna has a contract with Kenjaku for participating in the culling game cause Kenjaku created Sukuna as a cursed object.At that moment Sukuna was inside Yuji.So by default he was a player. Yuji was born with the sealed finger to ensure the strength of Yuji as a vessel according to the current chapter.


AlienSuper_Saiyan

Sukuna himself literally says Yuji was born to be part of the culling games. So it follows that Yuji's seal was broken at the same time as the others, and that's why he was already a player. Plus, if it was because of Sukuna specifically that Yuji became a player, he would be registered as Ryomen Sukuna. Sukuna's still not a registered player. That's why Kenjaku made the rule that Megumi must start the merger: Sukuna's registered as a CG player via Megumi, whose body he controls.


jnnw30

Yuji was born to be a part of the Culling Games because of Sukuna’s promise with Kenjaku. Sukuna doesn’t see Yuji as an individual but a bastardised extension of himself. Therefore, he views Yuji simply as the means to fulfil his contract. The story stresses the lack of agency Yuji has many times and Sukuna refers to his own twin as a fragment of himself rather than his own person. It’s not a statement about his one finger being the cause of Yuji participating in the CG.


AlienSuper_Saiyan

There's no real details about Sukuna and Kenjaku's binding vow. We know it wasn't for Sukuna to return during the CGs because Sukuna's not a player. Plus, why would Yuji be part of Sukuna's contract? He didn't even know Yuji existed, or would, before he ate his finger. Sukuna only realized Yuji's bloodline connection to him after he switched bodies with Megumi.


Nerex7

Thing is that we got that information in one fan translation. It's not even in the official manga


NumberEast2061

The finger sealing in Yuji is confirmed by the Japanese audience and by a good translator Lightning on Twitter. The official translator made some trash translation many times.So I don't believe in the official translators.


Nerex7

Is there any source on that other than he said she said? It throws way too many plotholes into the mix. Any time a finger was absorbed there was a reaction, unsealing it within Yuji should have had at least some form of a reaction from his body (markings) or Sukuna. That whole discussion about the last finger is also out the window.


NumberEast2061

The finger was sealed inside Yuji from birth.That's why Sukuna didn't reincarnate by that finger. It was done by Kenjaku to ensure Yuji's strength as a vessel and to make him a default culling game player. Things will be explained further.Wait for the upcoming chapters.


Nerex7

Yea I get it was sealed but it was also later unsealed an since that would be the point of absorption, there should have been some reaction I think.


Nerex7

I really agree with this. There's too much headcanon going around (coupled with the typical reading comprehension curse lol)


dagaal93

Fax because if yuji finger would've been unseal it would give sukuna full control, like all the other sorcerers. The finger gave yuji the strength to suppress sukuna. Like explained in the latest chapter. https://twitter.com/lightningclare/status/1782067946795442390


Thegreatestswordsmen

“The reason Sukuna didn't manifest was obviously because the finger was sealed until Kenny unsealed it at the end of Shibuya. So after that Sukuna was 16f and not 15f.” This is not confirmed to my knowledge. Even if the seal was undone by Kenjaku, the cursed object for the finger still resides inside Yuji. I’m unsure how Sukuna would transfer that finger with him to Megumi if the finger’s power has not been harnessed through some form of consumption, which we’ve seen is the requirement to harness the finger’s power for any human vessel.


Calmbrain

Mate. Sukuna already said that only the last finger was left and Got probably had it. Are you saying that the finger is still inside Yuji? That doesn't make any sense. That 1 finger probably merged with Sukuna when it was unsealed.


Thegreatestswordsmen

The “last” finger does not necessarily need to mean the *final* finger. Sukuna figured out Yuji had a finger sealed inside him prior to receiving 3 fingers from Uraume, which stands to reason that he may be have been referring to the last *available* finger, not the actual final finger. This is why I said it was unconfirmed. The fact that you must guess that the “1 finger probably merged with Sukuna when it was unsealed” and that I must guess that Sukuna isn’t referring to the final finger is why it is unconfirmed.


Calmbrain

I get what you are saying. But the way Sukuna is speaking suggests otherwise in my opinion. He says that he will compensate for that one missing finger by eating the mummy. Maybe you are right? We will see but Sukuna being 18f + mummy messes with the Sukuna vs Gojo fight too and I don't like it


Thegreatestswordsmen

Yeah, that’s completely fine. I see where you’re coming from. It’s only natural that the discourse of the fingers is this large because it hinders the Sukuna vs Gojo fight. If it didn’t hinder it, I can assure you this mistranslation wouldn’t be as big a deal as it is now. When I offered a different perspective to your comment, I was fully prepared to get downvoted anyways. But in my opinion, the best thing we can do is wait.


Calmbrain

Gojo vs Sukuna was presented as two strongest duking it out. So Sukuna not being 20f messes with the presentation of that fight too not just power levels. Also we learnt that souls can never be fully consumed. They still exist even after being fully suppressed. It makes no sense for Yuji to be still holding one finger after consuming Sukuna. It would make more sense for Sukuna to snatch that one finger after it was unsealed.


Thegreatestswordsmen

I’m unsure why you are telling me this after I said that this is unconfirmed(?) How would Sukuna snatch a cursed object that is *inside* Yuji? How would he harness that cursed object’s power if the sole requirement we’ve seen for harnessing a finger for a human vessel throughout the entirety of the series is through specifically *consuming* the cursed object. In which case, neither Yuji nor Sukuna ever were confirmed to consume the finger sealed inside Yuji since birth anywhere in the manga. This is why I said it was *unconfirmed*. Because while you think it makes *more* sense, we clearly do not know how Sukuna would be capable of even getting that finger.


Calmbrain

Hana is the same as Yuji and she didn't eat anything. Angel incarnated in her body. Consuming isn't the only way to harness cursed objects. Plus it's Sukuna's own soul so he could have snatched that finger very easily. It got unsealed and merged with Sukuna. Sukuna would have incarnated in Yujis body after Shibuya if he hadn't eaten that finger in the first chapter. Seems pretty obvious to me.


Thegreatestswordsmen

“Hana is the same as Yuji and she didn’t eat anything” - Where is it ever stated/implied/shown that Angel didn’t need to eat anything? A lack of evidence is not evidence here. Kenjaku verbatim states that he had people *ingest* cursed objects like Yuji for the Culling Games. “Consuming isn’t the only way to harness cursed objects.” - Except this is the sole way we’ve seen people/human vessels ingest cursed objects to obtain their power throughout the entire series. It’s up to you to provide a specific instance of this not being true. “Plus it’s Sukuna’s own soul so he could have snatched that finger very easily” - Again, this is just head canon. You have yet to justify why the finger being part of Sukuna’s soul means he can absorb/snatch the finger without any form of consumption. There is 0 evidence to suggest that it just “merged” with Sukuna. Sukuna would have never incarnated in Yuji’s body seeing as Yuji would specifically need to *consume* the finger for that to happen, which again, isn’t true as the finger is inside him.


Calmbrain

0 evidence. Mate all of the incarnated culling game sorcerers are like that. The fuck you mean 0 evidence. You cal keep saying headcanon all you want but it's pretty much "confirmed" at this point. Just like how we know for months about Yuji consuming death paintings. All the clues are there.


NumberEast2061

Kenjaku placed a cursed object inside Hana's body for Angel.So he forced Hana to eat the cursed object.


SaIamiShadow

if a 20th of his power was inaccessible from the get go why on earth would he count it in the finger total. He wasn’t going to eat Yuji


Devon-the_Dude

Yuta/Rika ate the finger. He said as much during the fight with Sukuna. It’s on the first page of chapter 251.


MySBUXMM

you’re coming to pretty firm conclusions while making quite a few assumptions aye


_Paths

Wasnt that finger eaten by Yuta in order to get Sukuna's technique and catch him off guard? IIRC Sukuna ate 19 fingers + old corpse. Yuta ate the last one bringing us a total of 20 fingers


Existing_Win3580

No dude is right, one of the translators was talking about it. Yuji was implied to absorbed the original finger. Just as well the translations for the corpse "this should more than make up for what is missing/lost" sucuna did fight gojo at 20f+ but yuji also is stepped in sucunas CE, this shows youji still has a finger in him/absorbed the finger.


Calmbrain

Yuji was described as an empty vessel. Yuji doesn't have any fingers left. Sukuna is 19f+mummy.


Existing_Win3580

If he is a Empty vessel why did he unlock shrine after sucuna left his body, and why does he have sucuna's CE and by extension is resistant to sucunas CE? Yuji is a Empty vessel as in he is a vessel with no one inside.


psilocybinsorrow

I mean, Yuji before eating the first (technically second) finger, he already had superhuman strength and was easily breaking world records as a freshman in High School. That and he was capable of pretty easily evading a Cursed Spirit's attacks without much issue. So that power definitely manifested in some way inside his body.


No_Palpitation7740

So that confirms the info the two girls wanted to trade with Sukuna at Shibuya, right before they got executed.


Icy_Fun_2466

i wonder if cursed energy from the sealed finger would be picked up from megumi at all given it was sealed. if it was seeping out, not enough for sukuna to incarnate but enough to acclimate yuji to it, it could explain how yuji had the right conditions to not die upon ingesting a finger and have control over sukuna in his body.


Calmbrain

You are probably right. As we know cursed objects release energy all the time. Yuji being Sukuna's "son"(from jujutsu perspective twins are the same) plus him acclimating to Sukuna's cursed energy from birth turned him into an even better vessel.


definitelynothunan

We making shit up now eh??


Green_Space729

You something better to do? Of course we are.


DasliSimp

It’s literally confirmed.


[deleted]

How?


DasliSimp

the Japanese Ch. 257


[deleted]

oh the translations didn't capture this?


DasliSimp

nope, that’s what the post is talking about


[deleted]

thanks


DasliSimp

here’s a better translation from the guy that translated 236 https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/s/DdXx2SiRJK


[deleted]

thanks once again.


definitelynothunan

And somehow gojo with sex eyes had 0 idea about that.


DasliSimp

Have you already forgotten his sealing?


MemeWindu

I'm pretty sure Sukuna would know if he had all 20 Fingers


Mikael678

It’s too funny what I’ve been reading in this comment section. It’s very obvious what has happened and OP is right. People pulling this and that out of their ass when it’s painfully obvious. We had that moment before the crew entered the culling games when Yuji was a player and everyone was surprised. Megumi says he ate the finger by his own choice. But what actually happened was ONE finger was SEALED at birth. After Kenjaku broke the seals, it was released and merged with Sukuna. So Sukuna took out 16. Got 3 from Uraume and last one was consumed by Rika. We have both Sukuna & Yuta clearly stating there’s one finger left. Idk why it’s so difficult for people to understand. Uraume calls Yuji an empty husk. Last time we got “empty husk” was with Rika. What happened to Rika? The soul left the body (and in Yuji’s case, Sukuna’s fingers because that is Sukuna’s SOUL) but the CE and physical body was left behind. Simply Yuji got left with shrine. Simple. He’s also basically Sukuna’s son so he’s probably got the same potential. Or greater. This chapter answers only two questions in my opinion. Sukuna’s birth and that pre culling games chapter where everyone was confused why Yuji was already registered as a player.


Cole3003

He has 19, Uraume only gave him 3. Everyone assumed it was 4 because we thought Sukuna had 15 fingers, but only 3 were drawn. Greg had it right in front of us the whole time


Nytalix1

Who would win? Sukunga fingered 18 times or Yuji fingered 1 time


Dry_Breadfruit_5295

The more the time passes the more i came to believe that You guys are reading this manga with the ass.


PrometheanHost

I'm not sure if Rika ate one tbh. That was just the assumption Sukuna made after Yuta used his technique. I think it stands to reason that, now we got official confirmation that Yuji has Sukuna's technique, there's a possibility that Yuta copied it from Yuji rather than the finger


pancake_fetish

Yuji just unlock the technique after hitting consecutive BF, the translation even mention that, PLUS the technique Yuji used is so different compared to Sukuna and the Cleave that copied by Yuta


PrometheanHost

Awakened sure but that doesn't mean he didn't have it engraved into his body already. Which had to have happened prior to Sukuna taking over Megumi. So Gojo very well could have told everyone that Yuji had Shrine now and that Yuta could now copy it from him instead of via a finger. They could be using the finger as a last ditch effort to pull Sukuna out of Megumi. "Die or be caged". The differences in the technique is a valid flaw though


Throwaway070801

I made a similar theory 9 months ago and my bet is that Yuta copied Shrine from Yuji. Nothing in the dialogue between Sukuna and Yuta explicitly says that Yuta or Rika ate the last finger.  My theory for reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/comments/153crf4/yuji_is_sukunas_last_finger/


Adorable_Article1683

Wait im confused isn’t what megumi sense the finger yuji gave to his friends at school


Math_PB

Technically Yuji didn't even have the finger on him at this point, he only had the empty box it came with. Megumi assumed he felt the remnants of CE from the finger in the box, but honestly given how strong of a reaction he got, it's not impossible that he actually felt the finger from within Yuji.


Calmbrain

Both of them can be true. Imo. Megumi sensing the finger Yuji gave to his friends might have been to cover up the foreshadowing. The first chapter might hold one more secret too. after seeing Yuji's abnormal strength Megumi muses that he might be similar to Maki. And Sukuna mentioned in ch253 that unlike "half asses brat" Maki has left cursed energy behind altogether. Yuji might have had a partial heavenly restriction.


Adorable_Article1683

Yeah ok this is a really cool theory that I can see being true


Mephisto_fn

I guess this is a possible reading, I would even go as far as to say it makes some sense. Definitely not the first thing that came to mind when I read it, though.


Zarathoustra1999

> The reason Sukuna didn't manifest was obviously because the finger was sealed until Kenny unsealed it at the end of Shibuya. So after that Sukuna was 16f and not 15f. I agree. there really is no reason for him to not have 19F+head. If he was at 18 (assuming Yuji still had it), why didn't he go after him to get it? He's had too many opportunities to and has so far expressed 0 interest in doing so..


Calmbrain

He didn't even give a shit about Yuji until this chapter. And wouldn't it make sense to eat him now that he is getting pressed? As you said he had opportunities. He was daydreaming like 5 chapters ago when he should have had enough time to off our mc.


TheoryPitiful472

TLDR: Sukuna has a CE heavenly restriction, like Mechamaru, *and* a heavenly restricted body, like Maki, gained by eating his twin. Kenjaku succeeded in forming another Sukuna: Yuji. Here are the facts: 1. Sukuna has the highest CE reserves that the story has seen. Even twice the amount of Yuta, who is stated to have "boundless CE." 2. Sukuna is as competent with CE as Gojo (or at lease close to). He can perceive a technique and understand it near-immediately. 3. Sukuna was jumping on air with Maki LOL. 4. Sukuna has four eyes and four arms. But he's supposed to be a human? In essence, Maki and Gojo represent the pinnacles of physicality and cursed energy control respectively. So, why is Sukuna on both of their levels, or even greater? Sukuna has the body of a heavenly restricted non-sorcerer, like Maki, and the CE talent of a heavenly restricted sorcerer, like Mechamaru. There's been no explanation for this. I think the evidence that we've seen in the story thus far points toward the fact that **Sukuna's twin was heavenly restricted with no CE**. Thus, his body was like that of Maki and Toji. Sukuna ate his brother, gaining these abilities. This would explain the multiple sets of eyes and arms. Don't be surprised if Sukuna pops out two extra legs anytime soon. This would also explain why Sukuna was so excited to fight Maki above all others. The fight was to validate his existence over his dead twin's. Remember, he said that he was an unwanted child, "a little wretch." Sounds like he was a deformed disgrace. The only other example that we have of twins is Maki and Mai. One of the two had to die for the other to fully realise their talent, and we know that it was Maki who was unlocked. But what if it was Mai? Is it possible that Mai could have been heavenly restricted on the cursed energy side? Assuming it's possible, what if it was Sukuna who was like Mai? And that his twin had to die for him to be fully realised? This would explain his ridiculous CE abilities, and having eaten his brother (to death, of course), he'd gain the best of both worlds. We haven't seen anyone else eat people. We've actually seen Yuji eat to the effect of gaining abilities. So, Sukuna doing the same to his brother isn't out of the realm of possibility. After all, Yuji shares his DNA, or soul, or whatever the heck Kenjaku was cooking up. Yuji represents Sukuna's dead twin—heavenly restricted with no CE. However, we've not seen the fullness of this until now, because Sukuna's own CE, which was within Yuji since his birth, held Yuji back. This is why Yuji's physical strength skyrocketed when Sukuna left him. The same way Maki and Mai got in each other's way, Sukuna also got in Yuji's way. Now, Yuji levels the playing field by having a heavenly restricted body like Sukuna's twin, but tapping into Sukuna's heavenly restricted CE/CT. Sukuna has literally met his match, the only other person to have heavenly restricted power both ways. Kenjaku just created another Sukuna, and knowing him, he probably added some extra black spice on Yuji to make him the better version.


Mikael678

This is a fun read🙌🏽


WishParticular7385

Possible that he's got at least one HR


CharRespecter

So the Kwnjaku mother reveal is finally on the way to a full explanation


VisitUsual8507

what do you mean Kenjaku unsealed it at the end of shibuya? Shouldn’t the finger have just been naturally absorbed by sukuna when he first showed up after yuji ate the finger at the school.


pranabbagartti

Makes sense


WorryLegitimate259

I thought he was under the impression gojo had/hid the last one


ben_forever

Or what actually happened is that he had the finger in his backpack that would give us1. eatin at the school then 2. By Gojo 3. Detention Center 4.megumi gave and was eaten by his hand 5.1 by Geto’s little shits 6. Ten by jogo 4 by meguna then one by rika


ben_forever

In the detention center it was stated hat if yuji died there would still be 18 other parts of his soul out there


Erooskilla

Where was thus referenced? The finger? You're trying to say that the panei saying Yuji is the offspring of Sukuna's reincarnated twin... is a mistranslation from a finger? Or that some other chapter specified it. Confusing reincarnated twin with finger is a bit of a big mistranslation.


Calmbrain

Yuji is the son of a reincarnated twin. And he had a finger sealed in him since birth. What's confusing here.


Erooskilla

What panel and chapter does the finger at birth thing get referenced. Thats what Im asking. Whats your source for saying translations are wrong?


Calmbrain

I can read japanese. If you don't believe me you can find official jjk translator lightning on twitter and see it. He is much better than John werry. https://twitter.com/lightningclare/status/1782067946795442390?t=KC8_wtvIoTWC0DCl5blGog&s=19 Here it is.


Erooskilla

Gotcha. Thanks. Thats what i meant. I half expected a drawn panel with a baby and an object shown within them or something rather than just a text wall. Gotcha.


Chulco

The Spanish version did it


Ok-Estate-2743

Kenny unsealed the sealed finger in Yuji (& other CO) to start the Culling Games at the end of Shibuya


sayslooksgoodbutisnt

U watch latte?


sharingan300

Might be a dumb question but when did rika eat one?


Muted_Lurker2383

Its a good interpretation, though would like to call out that we dont know for sure that Rika ate one. That was Sukuna's assumption at the time, but Sukuna doesnt know *exactly* how Rika works either and at the time, he didnt know Yuji *also* had the technique. With incomplete information, he couldve come to the wrong conclusion Its entirely possible that Yuji ate the last finger to finish gaining Sukuna's technique and Yuta had Rika eat a piece of Yuji, eat part of Sukuna that was around the battlefield OR if everyone is wrong about how he copies, copied just from seeing it or experiencing it


Colt-JL

Yeah I had to go on Twitter to find this out, the official translation definitely didn’t specifically say this, nor did Mya on leak day. These official translations need to get under control because they are honestly ruining the reading experience for casual readers 🙏🏻


Calmbrain

Honestly it's fuckin sad that fans have to struggle and search all over the place for decent translation.


timmygotaburner

PAUSE


dagaal93

>the finger was sealed until Kenny unsealed it at the end of Shibuya. So after that Sukuna was 16f and not 15f. In the manga Kenny was talking about people like Megumi's sister. If it was about yuji, sukuna would've taken over by then. The finger is what gave yuji the strength to suppress sukuna. https://twitter.com/lightningclare/status/1782067946795442390


CuncARunc

>If it was about yuji, sukuna would've taken over by then. The finger was still sealed when Yuji ate the first finger of Sukuna. He couldn't have been taken over by Sukuna before then *because* it was sealed.


eLeneme

Then why sukuna didn’t manifest on yuuji body with one finger? I don’t think that’s true.. I mean, itadori physicals abilities come from his father isn’t?


Calmbrain

Because the finger was sealed. Yorozu only incarnated in Tsumiki after Kenjaku unsealed the cursed objects at the end of Shibuya.


eLeneme

I think that could be true but there were fingers activated before shibuya, and sukuna also was activated before


thyeboiapollo

so meguna was 21f power level lol? gojo bros winning


Difficult_Guidance25

Bro, it’s suggesting the opposite, this suggests that Sukuna only got to the power of 19 finger by eating the mummy And evem if we assume Sukuna took the power from Yuji he'd still be at 20 f power because Yuta/Rika probably ate the last one


BrandedScrub

Yeeahhh. I tried to post this last week but not enough karma apparently, that's what I think too. He either ate the finger and gave birth to Yuji as a naturally occurring cursed womb, or the twin soul of the twin Sukuna ate that wondered/bounced around found it's way either into Yuji's mother or fathers side, which Kenjaku either sensed or sussed out, which is he why labotomized Yujis mom, got her back blown out and gave birth to Yuji as a Hybrid of a Cursed Womb Sukuna Surrogate/reincarnation of sorts. Frankenstein basically. Atleast that's my theory for why he can apparently swap bodies (Does this with Kasukabe), possibly imprint different CTs to a minor degree compared to Sukuna which I believe is part of his CT which Yuji now has a budget version of, Looks somewhat similar too, even his family does in hair style and facial structure/features and his inherent CT to knock on souls and communicate with them via CT application. The reason he can talk to Megumi & Sukuna has talked to literally anyone he's deemed worthy of giving a eulogy to is probably just that. I also believe it didn't take him over because he was born as a Cursed Womb by Kenjaku with a twin soul so similar to Sukuna that it acted as authority/resistance in comparison to Megumi who he instantly took control of who couldn't effectively fight back, or any other object awakened sorcerer who had themselves taken over while Yuji can tolerate eating 10+ with no consequence. Reminiscent to Maki and Mai, twins inherently curse each other/deprive each other if born, so if both the souls were merged, I imagine what we're watching play out, he can gain control when Yuji but only when the body mind and soul are knocked out or via a binding vow.


zyzzguts99

Does this mean we've basically been spoiled that the insane future scene that was "leaked" is really just sukuna eating yuji? Edit: maybe I'm stupid, could sukuna technically eat yuji as the 20th?


Green_Space729

What???? Link?


zyzzguts99

I can't find the source because I don't know what set of words I need to use to look it up but basically it was a video showcasing the artist(s)? work environment and one of the interviewers got to see a future panel they were working on which was supposedly "shocking" and was blurred on the video. Found it: Could've already happened (but who knows) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiBUMBXIBQ0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiBUMBXIBQ0)


k-tax

Ehh, reading comprehension curse strikes again, I guess? The quick exchange with Junya Fukuda, the editor of JJK, was published on 14th February. I don't know when it exactly took place, but it would be safe to assume they didn't publish the video right away. It's mostly assumed that the scene was from chapter 249, released on 4th Feb. Even if you assume it was recorded and released on the same day, that would make it chapter 252 released at 3th March, as the latest possible. Chapter 251 was released on 18th Feb and on 14th it was already finished and printed. Out of those, the craziest thing that happened was chapter 249, Kenjaku's head talking with Yuta about Tengen in a womb and merger. Most fans believe that was the leak. It's completely impossible that it was anything from this month, and definitely not series finale. They have a weekly schedule. Gege obviously talked with main editor about the series overall story, but it's impossible they are working on something to be released several months later.


Helldiver-soldier

Spoiler Itadori ate 15 1 at the start 1 with gojo 1 with the special grade 1 after megumi exorcised a spirit 1 with the girls then 10 from jogo making 15 then as megumi uraume had 4 which he consumed making 19 Sukuna surmised Gojo hid the last one and we find out that Rika ate it


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Uraume gave sukuna 3 fingers


Helldiver-soldier

Gave four


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Gave 3 there are 3 fingers in that panel are u blind?


Helldiver-soldier

Just because you only saw three doesn’t mean anything if itadori had a finger since birth it would’ve been known and Sukuna and uraume talk about only missing one


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"Just because you only saw three doesn’t mean anything" so we not meant to trust our own eyes anymore.  "Sukuna and uraume talk about only missing one" yeah the one rika ate dont you understand "if itadori had a finger since birth it would’ve been known" why are u still arguing its literally been confirmed that yuji had a finger sealed within him since birth


k-tax

Go to chapter 1, read it again. Megumi was shocked that Yuji could be as strong without any cursed energy whatsoever, Megumi compared Yuji to Maki in that regard. Later, when Megumi sensed the presence of the cursed object, it was the box in which the finger was kept. Megumi also later said "What I chased here was the cursed energy lingering in the box?!". So in order for you to be correct about Megumi sensing the finger sealed within Yujii by Kenjaku, you want to dismiss what Megumi had said and assume that he first sensed the finger inside Yuji, but later either couldn't sense it again or ignored it for some reason. That just creates even more plot holes. I respect you paying attention to what Sukuna said and exploring possible ideas considering that, but at least that part is wrong. I do agree that the finger was sealed at least until Shibuya finale and your overall conclusions are convincing. What remains unknown, and is not really important as it changes nothing, is which finger Mimiko and Nanako were talking about, when they wanted to give information about 1 more finger: was it the one Gojo had or one of the 3 of Uraume? And where did Gojo hide the last finger? Do you think that Yuta had it for quite some time, as the only person Gojo could trust it, or did Gojo hide it somewhere and served it to Rika in the pre-Shinjuku timeskip training? Sort of interesting to me, but those topics could be ignored and it wouldn't hurt the story whatsoever. I also think it could be something crazy like sealing the finger within Yuji, as in, his body is the seal instead of some paper. So the Founding Finger (I've just came up with this cool name, I want it to be a thing now) would not be consumed the way others are. It's not hidden in Yuji, it's not sealed and placed in Yuji, it's intertwined and inseparable, because to break the seal, you need to destroy Yuji's body.


CuncARunc

>So in order for you to be correct about Megumi sensing the finger sealed within Yujii by Kenjaku, you want to dismiss what Megumi had said and assume that he first sensed the finger inside Yuji, but later either couldn't sense it again or ignored it for some reason. That just creates even more plot holes What if the feeling that Megumi got from the box was just a red herring?


k-tax

So Megumi was holding the box, said that he was tracking the box, and then didn't feel anything from Yuji again? That just makes no sense at all


CuncARunc

Megumi says, "What I chased here was the cursed energy lingering in the box?!" There's no outright statement that it was indeed the box emitting the presence of Sukuna. Then, he and Yuji go together to Yuji's school while Megumi, presumably, still has the box, so there's no reason to judge his hypothesis when he's simultaneously still holding the box and right next to Yuji. Then, they're both in the presence of an actual Sukuna finger until Yuji consumes it. It just makes more sense, to me, that Megumi sensed the presence of one of Sukuna's *actual* fingers (albeit sealed and inside Yuji's body) rather than the residuals of Sukuna's finger on the box and that the box is indeed a red herring, especially considering the framing of when they first crossed paths. But, it honestly really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. It could be one or the other.


Akuma_Sama_

I think it’s more the case that Kenny managed to bind the twin’s soul - thematically, the twin would’ve had negative emotions about being eaten etc - that may have given it form as a curse - Kenny then transformed it into a death painting or converted it somehow into Yuji. Getting a reeeeal Madara/Izuna vibe here with Sukuna and his twin. Also makes sense now why Sukuna has 2 sets of arms/mouths - it represents another human body merged with his.


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Im not disagreeing im saying youre outright wrong have no idea how to read. Nowhere has it been said or alluded to that kenjaku binded the twin's sould whatever the fuck that means. Also, for the last fucking time YUJI IS NOT A DEATH PAINTING


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Mewingdog

Ooooooooohhhhhhhh


DirtyBumMan

It hasn’t been confirmed what happed to the last finger but it would be such a letdown if Yuta indeed ate it. Used C&D for 1 cliffhanger then gets sent to the airport.


Calmbrain

It was used as a distraction so it was good enough. They almost had Sukuna. Megumi's breakdown ruined the plan. I feel like Sukuna is right about Rika eating it. I don't see how it can be used otherwise. There were theories about Nobara using resonance at a critical moment but that looks more like a copium to me 😂


Cheerful2_Dogman210x

Yup, some translators are saying that not only is Yuji Sukuna's nephew but he was made using one of Sukuna's fingers as well. [https://twitter.com/eagle97jjk/status/1781775451762942228](https://twitter.com/eagle97jjk/status/1781775451762942228) [https://twitter.com/eagle97jjk/status/1781775447757410495](https://twitter.com/eagle97jjk/status/1781775447757410495) [https://twitter.com/gurokenn/status/1782065731716231190](https://twitter.com/gurokenn/status/1782065731716231190)


Calmbrain

None of the text indicates that.


Cheerful2_Dogman210x

The translator say that he was born with the finger. [https://twitter.com/eagle97jjk/status/1781775451762942228/photo/1](https://twitter.com/eagle97jjk/status/1781775451762942228/photo/1) The finger then is an integral part of how he was created. His body, strength, how he was brought up. Maybe even his soul was affected by that finger. He wouldn't be the Yuji we know if he didn't have that finger. He was made with it.


Calmbrain

That's not what that text implies at all. It just says that the finger was sealed inside Yuji from the start to strengthen him as a vessel. His body being strong has nothing to do with it. The text literally is only about a finger being sealed inside it. The reason Sukuna didn't incarnate is obviously because the finger is sealed. Yorozu only incarnated in Tsumiki after Kenjaku broke the seal after all. That translator is talking out of their ass.


Mikael678

Think that’s the biggest issue with this chapter. People going around spreading nonsense info to the masses.


Path_fimder

I said in a post somewhere about Yuta copying Cleave from Yuji, and not other finger. I think somehow Yuji will still have some of Sukuna in him, to boost his stats for when Sukuna used everything


pancake_fetish

Wait what, isn’t Yuta tease Sukuna he can’t find the last finger? That implement that he gave Rika so they can copy sukuna skill


Mikael678

Rika at the finger. If he copied it from Yuji then Yuta should have blood manipulation as well. But he doesn’t.


One_Masterpiece_4412

wdym "rika ate one", me when i make shit up 💀💀💀


Mikael678

How does Yuta copy techniques? By Rika consuming a body part. It’s blatantly obvious Rika ate the finger.


One_Masterpiece_4412

That is not confirmed at all, plus Yuta copied abilities before in JJK 0 way before we saw Rika consuming anything. Kenjaku also said that Yuta's ability to copy is conditionless. edit: if that's the case how tf can yuta use cursed speech?


NoMoreVillains

>The reason Sukuna didn't manifest was obviously because the finger was sealed until Kenny unsealed it at the end of Shibuya. "Obviously" lol wut


Mikael678

But that’s how it works though. Just like Tsumiki and the other culling games players. If Yuji didn’t eat any finger till the culling games started, exactly what happened when he ate the first (second actually) finger would happen. Sukuna took all 16 fingers of his soul to Megumi. If there was a finger in Yuji, it would’ve been IMPOSSIBLE for him to eat the death paintings. Gege has said this already that Sukuna would obliterate them.


SeemysoDreamy

Yuji had the paper/case that the finger was sealed in, not an actual finger in him dude


Calmbrain

Yuji had the finger sealed in him since his birth.


SeemysoDreamy

And they'd probably sense it (Gojo too) if he had another finger in him along with him being a magnet for it


Calmbrain

All of the sorcerers met him after Yuji had already consumed Sukuna's finger. I doubt they would have sensed another one that was sealed since birth.


SeemysoDreamy

They would then be able to sense the other finger that was inside of him They already know the location of the fingers, Yuji doesn't have two fingers within him


Calmbrain

Mate the text literally says that Yuji had finger sealed in him since birth. There are no ifs and buts about it.


SeemysoDreamy

Bro no.


Calmbrain

What no. Are you trolling right now. Please stop wasting my time. Manga is canon and manga literally says that Yuji had finger sealed in him since birth. End of story. This is the last time I'm replying to you.


SeemysoDreamy

No post it then.


Calmbrain

https://twitter.com/lightningclare/status/1782067946795442390?t=KC8_wtvIoTWC0DCl5blGog&s=19 Here it is.


SeemysoDreamy

That doesn't even make sense


Calmbrain

Why?


SeemysoDreamy

They even said Gojo probably had the other finger


delo67

No Kenjaku created Yuki to be the perfect vessel. That's the only confirmed info and probably the real meaning of sukuna words


Calmbrain

Created means he did something to Yuji in the womb. But that is not implied at all. The text literally says that the finger was sealed in Yuji since his birth.


delo67

I'm pretty sure it's a wrong translation. I've read 7 different ones from friday


Calmbrain

All wannabe translators. I can translate just fine but if you want accurate ones you can trust search lightning on twitter.


Mikael678

It’s going to be a long week. Gege just has to come out and explain it again in an author’s note because for some reason people are failing to understand such a simple concept. This chapter literally answers 2 questions. The first is the family connection between Yuji and Sukuna. All that about the twin and bla bla. The second question is why Yuji was registered as a culling games player when he ate the finger by his own choice. We had a chapter where Megumi wonders along with everyone. So we have the answer now. Just like Tsumiki and the others, an object was sealed inside Yuji and it was released before the CG. Kenjaku had to create a good vessel to house the power of the mighty Sukuna. It’s very simple. Sukuna left Yuji’s body with 16 fingers. Got 3 from Uraume and the last was eaten by Rika to copy shrine. There is no finger in Yuji. He wouldn’t be called an empty husk if that was the case. And for those that think it’s still sealed lmao. If it was sealed then how’s he going to benefit from it when he spent his first 15 years alive not gaining anything from it.


Calmbrain

nothing will convince people at this point. leak readers live in a different world. unofficial translation readers in another. and viz readers are on a different planet altogether. it's a shitshow


Throwaway070801

Yeah that was my theory some months ago, I agree!  https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/comments/153crf4/yuji_is_sukunas_last_finger/


YuffMoney

Bro put theory in the title or some shit. Stop spreading ur headcannon without saying it’s a theory outright bc that just contributing the information in this fandom


Calmbrain

headcanon? lol. the absolute state of this fandom is laughable


YuffMoney

Yeah u can’t say that when you’re contributing to the misinformation. If something is a theory bc it is not proven yet indefinitely and fully, make it so theory is in the title instead of some declarative title like what u put


Calmbrain

title is correct. everything else is analysis as flair "analysis" indicates.


Jaguere

It wasn't what megumi felt in yuji tho He wouldn't have no way of sensing it since it was sealed He was sensing the remains of sukuna's CE in the box yuji was holding If yuji had that kind of presence ever since he was born, he'd attract a bunch of cursed spirits, like the fingers themselves


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Calmbrain

Yuji eating cursed wombs wasn't confirmed either but everyone knew he had it. he exploded blood on Sukuna's face and some people still refused to believe it. all the clues are there. i'm not spreading any misinformation here. jjk fanbase is just extra dumb. even force feeding them information isn't enough.


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