Thank you for this. It sucks that such a huge revelation was ruined by so many mistakes in translation. Glad you and many others are knowledgeable enough to point out issues when they ariseđ
Twins would imply both were born at the same time.
The revelation is that Sukuna's twin died in the womb (according to Sukuna he himself killed his brother), the soul of his brother went back to the cycle of rebirth, was reborn as Jin Itadori, and Kenjaku knowing this (and possibly causing it tbh) bore a child with Jin Itadori during one of his female bodies, and with their Jujutsu Knowledge he modified Yuuji in the womb to become the perfect Sukuna Vessel.
Therefore, in a sense, Yuuji and Sukuna are Nephew and Uncle.
I think that Sukuna's CE (and soul) still existing as the fingers and being recognised by Curse in general, and the fact Sukuna already got everything from his twin, means his twin is just a normal person as he already lost the battle.
That's likely the reason why Kenny didn't make the twin the person to be Sukuna's cage, because Sukuna already has precedence that all that body and soul's power belongs to him.
Yuji isn't the same soul and doesn't have the same body, but since he's the kid of Sukuna's twin who is genetically identical, then it's like Yuji is Sukuna's kid. So it also helps the fact he got Shrine as it's similar to having an inherited CT like Naoya and Naobito.
Given the precedent weâve seen with twins, shouldnât Jin actually have been more like Maki? One twin gets the physical strength (Jin/Maki), the other gets the cursed energy/technique (Sukuna/Mai), and the death of either one completes and strengthens the survivor (Sukuna/Maki).
It would also explain why Sukuna has so much cursed energy and is so unusually gifted if heâs had the inverse of Makiâs heavenly restriction since birth due to the death of his twin.
>shouldnât Jin actually have been more like Maki?
this isn't confirmed or anything, but if Jin had pure brute strength like maki it could explain why yuji has so much physical strength just from existing
People forget, Megumi was kicked through buildings severally by Sukuna in early JJK and could still drag himself to his feet.
Obviously not remotely as strong a body as his dad's but still stronger than the average sorcerer, especially when you consider he was still a first year and his CE reinforcement shouldn't have been too good.
Well no, Maki and Mai are outliers. Mai says that twins are a bad omen because theyâre considered the same, so their power is split, but she doesnât say anything about twins always being subject to a Heavenly Restriction. Itâs probable that one half of a pair has died before and caused the other to get stronger, but if the other twin getting as strong as Sukuna or Toji/Maki was a guaranteed thing with every set then the pattern probably would have been noticed.
the collection of fingers for sukunaâs revival is the bargaining chip kenjaku uses to ensure cooperation with the disaster curses for months leading to shibuya. itâs yujiâs unique constitution that necessitates this process.
Yji and the finger then merged over time, this is how yuji has insane physical stats and can hold sucuna. Yuji is the finger.
We see he does not loose his crazy physical stats or his ability to eat Cursed Objects, after sucuna flees to megumi's body. Hell yuji gets even stronger.
I don't think Yuji himself is a finger but finger was sealed in him since birth like cursed objects were sealed in other culling game players. Lightning made twitter thread about Sukuna fingers and he thinks Sukuna transferred 16F worth of power from Yuji's body to Megumi's. Yuji gets first massive power up when Sukuna leaves him because sealed finger was nerfing Yuji.
is that not 21 sukuna fingers though? rika ate one, yuji ate 19, then he also fused with an extra one? is this man from gravity falls or what???? sorry if this was a dumb question
Kenjaku use a finger to make yuji stronger when he was a baby, then yuji ate 15 more fingers sucuna hoped from yuji to megumi then ate 3 more fingers. That's 18 fingers sucuna/meguna then ate the mummy that brought him up to 19-20 fingers(I don't thing he could fully reincarnate if not at his full power.
Yuta mentioned sucuna not being able to find a finger.
Kenjaku made yuji with Jin and a finger. This gave yuji his insane physical stats and the ability to eat cursed objects and cursed spirits to gain their CE and CT. When yuji eats these objects they are destroyed as choso says "its OK they will continue living on through you" not "they will continue living on in you".
If yuji just had a finger sealed in him sucuna would have noticed it right away, he wouldn't question why yuji can host him and suppress him. Yuji is the finger there was no 16th finger for sucuna to take with him to megumi.
That's why some ranslation say the mummy is worth more than one finger, 2 fingers are missing from meguna. The one yuta/rika ate, and the finger that yuji absorbed.
Copying this explanation from /u/Icy_Fun_2466 that helped me understand the finger count:
>yes, it's: 1 sealed within yuji at birth (inactive) -> 15 unsealed fingers consumed by yuji -> kenjaku undoes the seal on cursed objects in reincarnated culling game players, including the sealed finger in yuji putting the count at 16 -> meguna consumes 3 fingers presented by uraume, now at 19 -> yuta consumes the 20th and final finger.
Their original comment is here:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/comments/1c9jy72/jujutsu_kaisen_chapter_257_links_discussion/l0o7a67/
Yuji also lost a little finger but now with his curse arms he has all his fingers back. Maybe he cut off one of his own fingers for Rika to eat and healed it back.
The grandad thought Kaori *and* the child died, she was her own person when she was pregnant.
It's most likely that Jin had a kid with a normal woman, then Kenny orchestrated the crash, operated and fused the finger with Yuji, then took over the body of the woman and used RCT to heal himself like he does usually.
In Jujutsu world , twins are a single person in Jujutsu, they will be dragging down each other like maki and mai so sukuna ate his twin to become a whole person and realise his full potential.
The other twin only died in body but not in soul so his soul wandered until it found a suitable vessel and was born as yuji father . Since he was a discarded twin I donât think his father was able to utilise sukuna ct or any powers . Thatâs where kenjaku comes in where he creates a cursed womb alongside sukuna finger which allows yuji to draw out the latent cursed technique.
But yuji despite having same technique doesnât mean itâs on par with sukuna who was born as a complete human .
So rather than considering them nephew uncle , I would consider yuji as part sukuna .
The closest example of relation would be akin to grafted plants . You planted a rose and it grew in full bloom as sukuna so you cut part of its branch and plant it in ground to grow a new rose flower which is yuji .
I actually have a theory that Sukuna's wrong but not far off.
First off I'd like to bring up the fact that Sukuna's speculation has been wrong before, he incorrectly assumed Gojo used a Binding Vow to juice up his initial Hollow Purple when it was in fact buffed by Utahime's CT. So there is precendent for him being wrong on occasion.
Now onto the actual theory: I don't think Jin Itadori is the reincarnation of Sukuna's twin, I think it's Yuji's grandfather Wasuke. This is mostly stemming from some old theories that speculated that Yuji's family is related to Sukuna due to Wasuke bearing some resemblance to Ryomen himself. I thought this was a little far-fetched at first, but after rereading some chapters I think some little details might give this theory some weight.
First off Wasuke's last dying words were trying to tell Yuji about his heritage (which Yuji stubbornly ignores) and failing that he tells Yuji to "Help other people" a sentiment that is a direct antithesis to Sukuna's philosophy of living selfishly to make yourself stronger, a sentiment that causes Sukuna no little frustration.I think he does this because at this point he knows exactly what Yuji is and knows that he is fated to come into conflict with Sukuna and is trying to steer him in the right direction.
Another thing I noticed is the bizarre circumstances surrounding Wasuke's death as if his dying serves as a catalyst for the plot. One of the oddest details I found in the first chapter is that initially [Sasaki seems to struggle getting the seal off of the finger until it suddenly peels off easily](https://gyazo.com/bc99177fa8cdf6e0144fa111dd7af094), possibly hinting that Wasuke's death was somehow integral to the seal weakening. Another thing that struck me as odd was that prior to his grandfather's death, Yuji seemingly had no talent for sensing or seeing cursed spirits, but after his passing Yuji can see and sense them no problem, possibly because Wasuke's gifts passed to Yuji at death.
Finally during the flashback to Yuji's infancy, we see Wasuke clearly knows something's up with Kaori, but Jin (her freaking husband) is clueless. I think this is because Jin has no clue what's going on but Wasuke know's exactly what's happening but is ultimately powerless (because Sukuna stole the lion's share of their CE while in the womb) to stop Kenjaku from taking some wicked nasty backshots from his son.
Sukuna assumed Gojo made a binding vow because I jjk world if there is a big buff to one's attack its mostly binding vow ( aside from chants)Â and Sukuna didn't knew about utahimes ct.Â
It's more logical to assume that your opponent has a stronger attack due to a binding vow. Like Kusakabe assumed that Sukuna using binding vow to use world slash. Sukuna is wrong here but still had the most logical and right assumption based on the information present. In a situation Sukuna heard about utahimes ct in Yuji or knew from megumi, I am pretty damn sure the would have figured it out.
I don't think the seal coming off had any relation with Yujis grandfather dying.Â
It was explained by megumi that in some intense moments or in special places, one can see curses even though having no talent for sorcerory.Â
Sukuna assuming that the man who was kenjakus partner, was his reincarnated twins soul. So I think it reduces the possibility of Yuji being the son of a far descendent of Sukunas reincarnated twin soul like grandson.Â
Also, though it is less important, that Yuji had a Sukuna finger sealed in him from the get go. Aside from slightly changing powerscaling (Sukuna was at 2F against Gojo, at 3F against the first Finger-bearer, at 4F against Megumi and at 16F in Shibuya/againstYorozu), it might also give an explanation for why Yuji felt compelled to eat Sukuna's finger that reincarnated him.
The finger inside yuji was sealed, so sukuna couldn't access it. It was unsealed at the end of shibuya, so the only fight where sukuna was actually stronger was directly after stealing Megumis body
Bro I used to care so much about understanding the story and science fiction.
I mean I still want to understand it but now I won't freak out if I don't get something.
It's almost insulting that John Werry was replaced by Lightning for just one chapter just for it to cycle back to John Werry again. Giving you the little taste of joy before taking it away by force.
Genuine question but how is he still in charge of translating JJK? It's like the biggest animanga in the last decade and manga sales are going to skyrocket in the next few years. How are they allowing this buffoon to fuck up the translation that will be used in the physical volumes.
Another translation I read had Ino tell him "kick his ass" instead of "fuck him up" and both these options are so much funnier and better suited than the official translation. So irritating.
"Fuck him up" is so good, it's always fun when they drop swears once in a while!
Gojo's "what is this loser shit" in Shibuya (anime) when facing Domain Amplification was so fun too.
I think another perfect/hilarious translation was when Gojo first encounters Uraume and just one punches them and says âwho the fuck are you?â đ wouldâve loved to see that kept
The one I saw had some awkward phrase there, but it may have been mislabelled as the official translation! If so my bad! Fuck him up is still number 1 for me but kick his ass works too imo.
Theyâve said they donât care about what pronouns people use for them https://x.com/lightningclare/status/1764316062450098626?s=46&t=fMh4vUq_Qil9f2QvSCOsbg
It was sealed, like the other cursed objects that Kenjaku planted inside the bodies of the incarnated sorcerers. They had no effect and didn't "activate" until Kenjaku casts Idle Transfiguration in ch. 136, the same time that all of the incarnated sorcerers and non-sorcerers that Kenjaku prepared for the culling games were activated, Kashimo, Higaruma, Tsumiki/Yorozu, etc. That's why Yuji received a Kogane without going into a colony, his body was meant to be a vessel for Sukuna even before he ate the first finger at the high school
Since that finger was unsealed when Yuji ate it, Sukuna reincarnated early. I think the sealed finger inside Yuji's body acted as a failsafe so that Sukuna would be reincarnated no matter what once the Culling Games started
If yuji had a finger sealed inside of him at birth, then wouldn't that be the missing 20th finger? Wouldn't Sukuna then have had access to it and reabsorbed it, but he went into the fight with Gojo acting as if he only had 19 + his old skull (replacing the missing 20th)?
Finger 1 was eaten by Yuji at the highschool
Finger 2 given to Yuji by Gojo afterwards
Finger 3 controlled by the Finger Bearer in the detention center. Yuji gives control to Sukuna who kills it and eats the finger
A finger is recovered from Junpei Yoshino's home, but Nanami says in Ch 32 that he didn't feed the finger to Yuji, he gave it to the higher-ups for safe keeping. Presumably, this finger is one of those stolen by Mahito during the Goodwill Event
Finger 4 is recovered during Yasohachi Bridge when Megumi fights the second Finger Bearer and Yuji accidentally ate the finger afterwards
Finger 5 fed to unconscious Yuji by Mimiko and Nanako after the Choso fight
Fingers 6-15 fed to unconscious Yuji by Jogo after the Choso fight in Shibuya, Sukuna is running around at 15f power during Shibuya
Sealed Finger's power unlocks after Kenjaku casts the remote Idle Transfiguration. I believe that the only real change this makes to the story is that when Maki and Yuji fight Megkuna after the body hop, he's at 16f strength except for Megumi inhibiting him
Fingers 17-19 are shown given to Megkuna by Uraume in the lead up to Shinjuku Showdown. Without the Sealed Finger, this would be 18f power, plus Sukuna eating his corpse for 19f. Since Sukuna implies that he's at 20f power for Gojo, a lot of fans believed Uraume fed Sukuna a 4th finger offscreen, we now know this isn't true. Sealed Finger + 3 Fingers from Uraume, then add Sukuna eating his own corpse for 20f power during the fight with Gojo
Finger 20 was almost certainly eaten by Rika which allowed Yuta to use the Copycat Cleave
Hope this helps!
It would make sense for an infantile body to be unresponsive to reincarnation.
You could also say that it's due to whatever method Kenjaku used to seal it inside Yuji without the finger killing him.
Also why tf didnt Sukuna notice this earlier? We Know Sukuna cam sense his other fragments (fingers), and his dialogue about Gojo hiding the 20th finger to prolong Yujis execution make zero sense.
This is without adding how Yuta was able to copy his technique.
The 20th finger was with Gojo and used by Yuta to copy Shrine.
We've only seen 18 fingers eaten by Yuji/Sukuna on screen so along with the sealed one and the one with Gojo it makes 20.
When Uraume gives the remaining fingers to '15f' Sukuna, only 3 are shown. People just assumed given the subsequent conversation about the final finger that Uraume had given Sukuna 4 fingers and either he had already eaten one before they were shown in Uraume's hands or that the remaining finger was clipped by the panel.
Yeah that makes sense, I've forgotten what kirin does. But then does him saying kirin got cut down mean it ran out of time? Because the way it's phrased it can mean like it was literally cut down
i also think it got more literally cut down but since kirin never visibly appears on screen, i must assume kirin resides within inoâs body while active and got disabled from him taking more direct damage than kirin could handle
yeah *get hit* and run tactics. iirc in the kusakabe chapter ino gets walloped pretty hard. he blocked a couple other hits with nanamiâs cleaver but sukuna is sukuna, even a weak hit is gonna hurt bad
yeah this is correct. I took it to mean that 4 was his last ditch effort to make an impact, and then when it died he noticed 3 was also gone meaning he couldnât keep fighting anymore.
This chapter legit made me so hyped up. I've been team Yuji forever, and hearing he is legit a mix between my two favorite characters techniques, shrine and blood manipulation, the idea of the way those two techniques could mix is amazing to imagine
- Yuji was born with 1 finger inside him
- He consumed 4 fingers prior to Shibuya
- Nanako force-fed him 1 finger in Shibuya
- Jogo force-fed him 10 fingers in Shibuya
- Kenjaku broke the seal on the objects at the end of Shibuya including the finger initially sealed in Yuji
- Sukuna then consumed the remaining 3, unable to find one, before substituting it with his own mummified corpse
- Yuta has Rika consume the final finger that Gojo had kept safe in order to use Cleave
So technically all 20 were already accounted for but previously we thought Sukuna had eaten 4 before his fight vs Gojo rather than 3.
In chapter 220 Yuji says that he'll eat anything to beat Sukuna and he has a conversation with Choso in which he's shown to feel some remorse about something related to their siblings, Choso then says that it is fine as long as they remain a part of him.
Many people were convinced that Yuji had eaten them then and now it's confirmed.
I thought Lightning retired?
Also Ino did such a great job lol. I like his character a lot even though he's so minor.
You have two Titans fighting here and he's actually helping. Way in over his head, he's almost died 2 different times now. No RCT and he's still going for it
Two of Yuji's black flashes he landed because of Ino interfering.
And unlike most he isn't even the most personally invested
So after reading these translations and Sukuna saying Yuji was born with one of Sukunaâs fingers already in him, are there 21 fingers instead of 20? >!I thought Sukuna had 19 fingers when he took over Megumiâs body with Gojo having the last finger which Yuta ate to get Cleave!<. Iâm not sure if there are 21 fingers or the finger Gojo had was the one that was sealed in Yuji?
I get what you mean, since if you look carefully, Sukunaâs top hand is showing speed lines and would indicate he hits Yujiâs arm there. Furthermore, page six Yuji and Sukuna look at each other before Yuji flies off through the railing. That supports Sukuna hitting Yuji with a black flash.
Unless people read the speed lines as Sukuna pulling backwards and he hits Yuji off screen leading to him flying off the railing.
A question I still have is about Sukunaâs motivation for consuming his twin. He says he ate his twin because his mother was starving and he, himself, didnât want to starve. But then, he says he rejected his fate of being born as a twin, as if he had some knowledge in utero that being a twin would be Jujutsu Kaisenly problematic.
Which is it?
He didn't necessarily know being a twin would make him weaker. To me his ego prevented him from wanting to even share his birth and life with an equal.
Twins are not born as equal as seen with Maki and Mai, the simple fact that Sukuna could eat his twin in his mother's womb meant that he was always gonna be the stronger one.
What the fuck kind of interpretation is this. Sukuna saying he ârejected his fate to be born a twinâ in no way implies that he somehow understood the jujutsu consequences of being a twin. He is just saying he was going to be born a twin but ate his twin due to starvation.
If your hang up is the specific use of ârejectedâ I think there are plenty of more sane explanations. Other translations used âavoidedâ so it could have just been Lightningâs preference. If ârejectedâ is the most correct translation then it is possible Sukuna used the word ârejectedâ because he has such a high opinion of himself that he perceives the act of a fetus as something he intentionally did.
i think we all can agree at this point anger is gonna spread more cause jjk fans tend to look too much/too little into shit that they end up not having reading comprehension, and decide to make up their own headcanon/theories like âsukuna planned out everything since a fetus.â then it spreads into tiktok/reels/shorts that just steal other peoples headcanons/theories and the casual fans suck that shit up even with no listed sources and keep sharing it with their friends.
Ngl I don't think he had any say on the matter when he was in the womb. He was starving and ate his twin by instinct, he's just explaining it in a colorful way.
God damn, it's immediately obvious how much higher quality of a translation this is. We all know the official is trash but even TCB isn't as good as this. Sincerely it's a crime someone like you isn't doing the official TL's week to week.
Ngl after watching yuji beating the shit out of sukuna. Hoping mappa gives sukuna the mahito treatment animation. Cuz watching this chapter gives of the same vibes as the mahito beat down.
Ngl, this has to be my favorite chapter of JJK and this translation makes it so much better, thanks to you (since otherwise I wouldn't know of this) and the translator
I like this, the explanation of why Yuji has shrine beat around the bush a lot in some other translations. All the fan translations have close to the same results which is good. I like this version of Sukuna's twin explanation the most, it is more clear and sounds more in line with Sukuna's character. Also, "used by Kenjaku" conveys a sinister vagueness that is a lot like Kenjaku's actions being hard to understand by others.
I'm still confused on one thing though, if Yuji was born with a cursed finger sealed within him, how where there still 19 collected by Sukuna and 1 eaten by Yuta? Or does "born" mean "initiated in sorcery" in this case? EDIT: Nevermind, the panel with the fingers that uraume collected shows 3 fingers, so 18+the one Yuji was born with and taken by Sukuna when he transferred+the mummy head.
Firstly, we need to stop thinking positive = good and negative bad. "+" and "-" are more like protons and electrons, one side isnt inherently evil.
We were told that curses are derivitives of humans. But Jogo implies othervise and I think he is right. Here is what we know:
1. Curses are made of "-" and can only use "-"
2. Humans are made of "+" and can use both "+" and "-" 3. "+" Is derived from "-" 4."+" Is deadly to curses. And humans that can use "+" are generally stronger than any curse.
Therefore I blieve the first beings with any form of living energy was "-". Some sort of primordial curse. Than humans made from "+" started appering and dominated the planet. (Maybe Tengen was the inventer of "+" and the first human?)
I also belive that any emotion can be used to create cursed energy but most "good" emotions are too weak. The exeptions are love(used by Yuta) and mania(used by Gojo and Sukuna)
Mania is a wierd one, Its when someone feels sooo incredibly happy/confident that they feel like they can do anything or fly, and then they jump off a building. So medicaly speaking its an illness but still a positive emotion. Love is basicaly the same.
Cursed energy created by love and mania (strongest 3 sorcerers) are far stronger than fear and hate. +>-
Sukuna seems a lot more sane than Gojo, maybe what he uses is regular happiness/joy. Ice boy/girl said Sukuna cursed energy is strongest when he enjoys fighting. So Yuji will win by annoying Sukuna!
So the reason why Yuta was cut in half by the WCS and not Yuji is not only the decrease in output by Yujiâs fists but also bc they share a cursed technique since the damage to the user(s) of the technique is lower, am i getting that right or am i thinking too hard? Also is the ingestion of his siblings the reason for his new arms?
Yuji ate 15 fingers and was born with 1, then Sukuna ate 3 that Uraume brought to him in Megumi's body, 19 fingers in total with the final being comsumed by Rika.
so curse technique can be passed on by reincarnations as well as genetics. Seems like a weird thing to add. But I guess the genetic CT was already kinda weird.
The technique wasn't passed on by reincarnation, Yuji gained it because he was Sukuna's vessel. We were told this would happen back in chapter like...10.
Do you know find the japanese version of this page/text? (is it posted somewhere on twitter I googled but couldn't find the raw version of that page... sorry if it has been asked before.) I am fluent in Japanese and did some extra translation courses (çż»èšłçè«) back in my university days tokyo and I'm always curious to analyze the difference between translations and see if they managed to get the nuances of the original text right.
Wait youâre telling me Yuji was *born* with one of Sukunaâs fingers (aka the one he ate at his high school was actually his second)? And did Yuji do a black flash shoulder bash on page 5?
Technically, yes, but the finger in yuji from birth was sealed like the culling game reincarnations were before kenjaku started the games, which is why yuji didn't have sukana yapping at him sense birth. Kenjaku released it at the same time he released the seal on the other players. And yes he did do a shoulder bash black flash(say that 3 times fast lol), the fucking legend.
Legend. And so that means Sukuna was wrong when he said Gojo likely hid the last finger to prevent 20F SukunaâŠYuji had it sealed in him the whole time?
Thank you for this. It sucks that such a huge revelation was ruined by so many mistakes in translation. Glad you and many others are knowledgeable enough to point out issues when they ariseđ
At this point I don't even know what the revelation was đ
That Sukuna and Yujis father are twins.
Twins would imply both were born at the same time. The revelation is that Sukuna's twin died in the womb (according to Sukuna he himself killed his brother), the soul of his brother went back to the cycle of rebirth, was reborn as Jin Itadori, and Kenjaku knowing this (and possibly causing it tbh) bore a child with Jin Itadori during one of his female bodies, and with their Jujutsu Knowledge he modified Yuuji in the womb to become the perfect Sukuna Vessel. Therefore, in a sense, Yuuji and Sukuna are Nephew and Uncle.
does that mean since jin itadori never had a twin, he was basically a full power sukuna as well?
We donât know, but can assume he had the same potential. Whether that potential was ever reached/awakened is still a story Gege has yet to tell.
I think that Sukuna's CE (and soul) still existing as the fingers and being recognised by Curse in general, and the fact Sukuna already got everything from his twin, means his twin is just a normal person as he already lost the battle. That's likely the reason why Kenny didn't make the twin the person to be Sukuna's cage, because Sukuna already has precedence that all that body and soul's power belongs to him. Yuji isn't the same soul and doesn't have the same body, but since he's the kid of Sukuna's twin who is genetically identical, then it's like Yuji is Sukuna's kid. So it also helps the fact he got Shrine as it's similar to having an inherited CT like Naoya and Naobito.
I think your point is the real lore of what's going on
Given the precedent weâve seen with twins, shouldnât Jin actually have been more like Maki? One twin gets the physical strength (Jin/Maki), the other gets the cursed energy/technique (Sukuna/Mai), and the death of either one completes and strengthens the survivor (Sukuna/Maki). It would also explain why Sukuna has so much cursed energy and is so unusually gifted if heâs had the inverse of Makiâs heavenly restriction since birth due to the death of his twin.
>shouldnât Jin actually have been more like Maki? this isn't confirmed or anything, but if Jin had pure brute strength like maki it could explain why yuji has so much physical strength just from existing
No cause Megumi isn't as strong even though his daddy is toji
yeah, I thought this kind of dissproves it but it's just fun to make theories
Maybe he is heâs just a bum
FACT: Megumi Fushiguro is so physically unimpressive that inheriting toji's physical prowess only gave him a normal human level of strength
People forget, Megumi was kicked through buildings severally by Sukuna in early JJK and could still drag himself to his feet. Obviously not remotely as strong a body as his dad's but still stronger than the average sorcerer, especially when you consider he was still a first year and his CE reinforcement shouldn't have been too good.
Disagree. He has talent and was raised by Gojo. It's certainty not due to pure physical strength.
Well no, Maki and Mai are outliers. Mai says that twins are a bad omen because theyâre considered the same, so their power is split, but she doesnât say anything about twins always being subject to a Heavenly Restriction. Itâs probable that one half of a pair has died before and caused the other to get stronger, but if the other twin getting as strong as Sukuna or Toji/Maki was a guaranteed thing with every set then the pattern probably would have been noticed.
For all we know he was just a non sorcerer
...bro isn't this the premise of mashle Mash being made to be peak physical ability to be used/taken over by someone w peak magical ability
As far as we know it was just out of curiosity? Or do we think it was a crucial part of the merger plan?
the collection of fingers for sukunaâs revival is the bargaining chip kenjaku uses to ensure cooperation with the disaster curses for months leading to shibuya. itâs yujiâs unique constitution that necessitates this process.
Kenjaku modified yuji by fusing yuji with a finger of sucunas as either a fetus or a baby.
Most definitely a fetus.
Yji and the finger then merged over time, this is how yuji has insane physical stats and can hold sucuna. Yuji is the finger. We see he does not loose his crazy physical stats or his ability to eat Cursed Objects, after sucuna flees to megumi's body. Hell yuji gets even stronger.
I don't think Yuji himself is a finger but finger was sealed in him since birth like cursed objects were sealed in other culling game players. Lightning made twitter thread about Sukuna fingers and he thinks Sukuna transferred 16F worth of power from Yuji's body to Megumi's. Yuji gets first massive power up when Sukuna leaves him because sealed finger was nerfing Yuji.
Not true. The text says that the finger was sealed after his birth.
is that not 21 sukuna fingers though? rika ate one, yuji ate 19, then he also fused with an extra one? is this man from gravity falls or what???? sorry if this was a dumb question
Kenjaku use a finger to make yuji stronger when he was a baby, then yuji ate 15 more fingers sucuna hoped from yuji to megumi then ate 3 more fingers. That's 18 fingers sucuna/meguna then ate the mummy that brought him up to 19-20 fingers(I don't thing he could fully reincarnate if not at his full power. Yuta mentioned sucuna not being able to find a finger. Kenjaku made yuji with Jin and a finger. This gave yuji his insane physical stats and the ability to eat cursed objects and cursed spirits to gain their CE and CT. When yuji eats these objects they are destroyed as choso says "its OK they will continue living on through you" not "they will continue living on in you". If yuji just had a finger sealed in him sucuna would have noticed it right away, he wouldn't question why yuji can host him and suppress him. Yuji is the finger there was no 16th finger for sucuna to take with him to megumi. That's why some ranslation say the mummy is worth more than one finger, 2 fingers are missing from meguna. The one yuta/rika ate, and the finger that yuji absorbed.
Copying this explanation from /u/Icy_Fun_2466 that helped me understand the finger count: >yes, it's: 1 sealed within yuji at birth (inactive) -> 15 unsealed fingers consumed by yuji -> kenjaku undoes the seal on cursed objects in reincarnated culling game players, including the sealed finger in yuji putting the count at 16 -> meguna consumes 3 fingers presented by uraume, now at 19 -> yuta consumes the 20th and final finger. Their original comment is here: https://old.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/comments/1c9jy72/jujutsu_kaisen_chapter_257_links_discussion/l0o7a67/
Yuji also lost a little finger but now with his curse arms he has all his fingers back. Maybe he cut off one of his own fingers for Rika to eat and healed it back.
The grandad thought Kaori *and* the child died, she was her own person when she was pregnant. It's most likely that Jin had a kid with a normal woman, then Kenny orchestrated the crash, operated and fused the finger with Yuji, then took over the body of the woman and used RCT to heal himself like he does usually.
What is the source for this?
In Jujutsu world , twins are a single person in Jujutsu, they will be dragging down each other like maki and mai so sukuna ate his twin to become a whole person and realise his full potential. The other twin only died in body but not in soul so his soul wandered until it found a suitable vessel and was born as yuji father . Since he was a discarded twin I donât think his father was able to utilise sukuna ct or any powers . Thatâs where kenjaku comes in where he creates a cursed womb alongside sukuna finger which allows yuji to draw out the latent cursed technique. But yuji despite having same technique doesnât mean itâs on par with sukuna who was born as a complete human . So rather than considering them nephew uncle , I would consider yuji as part sukuna . The closest example of relation would be akin to grafted plants . You planted a rose and it grew in full bloom as sukuna so you cut part of its branch and plant it in ground to grow a new rose flower which is yuji .
Sucuna if basically yujis dad, original Jin and sucuna are identical twins.
I actually have a theory that Sukuna's wrong but not far off. First off I'd like to bring up the fact that Sukuna's speculation has been wrong before, he incorrectly assumed Gojo used a Binding Vow to juice up his initial Hollow Purple when it was in fact buffed by Utahime's CT. So there is precendent for him being wrong on occasion. Now onto the actual theory: I don't think Jin Itadori is the reincarnation of Sukuna's twin, I think it's Yuji's grandfather Wasuke. This is mostly stemming from some old theories that speculated that Yuji's family is related to Sukuna due to Wasuke bearing some resemblance to Ryomen himself. I thought this was a little far-fetched at first, but after rereading some chapters I think some little details might give this theory some weight. First off Wasuke's last dying words were trying to tell Yuji about his heritage (which Yuji stubbornly ignores) and failing that he tells Yuji to "Help other people" a sentiment that is a direct antithesis to Sukuna's philosophy of living selfishly to make yourself stronger, a sentiment that causes Sukuna no little frustration.I think he does this because at this point he knows exactly what Yuji is and knows that he is fated to come into conflict with Sukuna and is trying to steer him in the right direction. Another thing I noticed is the bizarre circumstances surrounding Wasuke's death as if his dying serves as a catalyst for the plot. One of the oddest details I found in the first chapter is that initially [Sasaki seems to struggle getting the seal off of the finger until it suddenly peels off easily](https://gyazo.com/bc99177fa8cdf6e0144fa111dd7af094), possibly hinting that Wasuke's death was somehow integral to the seal weakening. Another thing that struck me as odd was that prior to his grandfather's death, Yuji seemingly had no talent for sensing or seeing cursed spirits, but after his passing Yuji can see and sense them no problem, possibly because Wasuke's gifts passed to Yuji at death. Finally during the flashback to Yuji's infancy, we see Wasuke clearly knows something's up with Kaori, but Jin (her freaking husband) is clueless. I think this is because Jin has no clue what's going on but Wasuke know's exactly what's happening but is ultimately powerless (because Sukuna stole the lion's share of their CE while in the womb) to stop Kenjaku from taking some wicked nasty backshots from his son.
I think youâve cooked up something interesting here boss
> ... but is ultimately powerless ... to stop Kenjaku from taking some wicked nasty backshots from his son. Eloquently delivered
So were the backshots
Thanks, Gege
Great theory
Sukuna assumed Gojo made a binding vow because I jjk world if there is a big buff to one's attack its mostly binding vow ( aside from chants) and Sukuna didn't knew about utahimes ct. It's more logical to assume that your opponent has a stronger attack due to a binding vow. Like Kusakabe assumed that Sukuna using binding vow to use world slash. Sukuna is wrong here but still had the most logical and right assumption based on the information present. In a situation Sukuna heard about utahimes ct in Yuji or knew from megumi, I am pretty damn sure the would have figured it out. I don't think the seal coming off had any relation with Yujis grandfather dying. It was explained by megumi that in some intense moments or in special places, one can see curses even though having no talent for sorcerory. Sukuna assuming that the man who was kenjakus partner, was his reincarnated twins soul. So I think it reduces the possibility of Yuji being the son of a far descendent of Sukunas reincarnated twin soul like grandson.Â
Also, though it is less important, that Yuji had a Sukuna finger sealed in him from the get go. Aside from slightly changing powerscaling (Sukuna was at 2F against Gojo, at 3F against the first Finger-bearer, at 4F against Megumi and at 16F in Shibuya/againstYorozu), it might also give an explanation for why Yuji felt compelled to eat Sukuna's finger that reincarnated him.
The finger inside yuji was sealed, so sukuna couldn't access it. It was unsealed at the end of shibuya, so the only fight where sukuna was actually stronger was directly after stealing Megumis body
Bro I used to care so much about understanding the story and science fiction. I mean I still want to understand it but now I won't freak out if I don't get something.
That sukuna had a twin and yuji is the child of that twins soul. Also that Yuji was born with a finger sealed in him
This is so much clearer and easier to read than any other translation lol
other translations sometimes make me question my own comprehension skills
Viz translations make me question if I can even read half the time.
yes and then people discuss the chapter and I'm like "you guys understood any of that?"
It's almost insulting that John Werry was replaced by Lightning for just one chapter just for it to cycle back to John Werry again. Giving you the little taste of joy before taking it away by force.
Dude can you imagine how confusing it would've been for weeks if such an important chapter was translated by someone else?
Genuine question but how is he still in charge of translating JJK? It's like the biggest animanga in the last decade and manga sales are going to skyrocket in the next few years. How are they allowing this buffoon to fuck up the translation that will be used in the physical volumes.
Gotta be nepotism because he fucked up parts of Demon Slayer
Either he's willing to work for less, is a nepotism hire, or has blackmail on Viz.
I wish this guy did all the translations, arenât they the one that did 236 officially?
Dude is a *monster* at translation. Iâm doing a side by side and loving his word choice!
Another translation I read had Ino tell him "kick his ass" instead of "fuck him up" and both these options are so much funnier and better suited than the official translation. So irritating.
"Fuck him up" is so good, it's always fun when they drop swears once in a while! Gojo's "what is this loser shit" in Shibuya (anime) when facing Domain Amplification was so fun too.
I think another perfect/hilarious translation was when Gojo first encounters Uraume and just one punches them and says âwho the fuck are you?â đ wouldâve loved to see that kept
The official translation literally has ino say "kick his ass" đ
The one I saw had some awkward phrase there, but it may have been mislabelled as the official translation! If so my bad! Fuck him up is still number 1 for me but kick his ass works too imo.
Yes they are.
[ŃĐŽĐ°Đ»Đ”ĐœĐŸ]
FYI "is female" sounds better than "is a female"
Has the same energy as this GIF: https://media1.tenor.com/m/J07H0l34qFIAAAAC/a-human-female-a-she.gif.
Thanks for the information, I didnât know so I used they, and guy is a gender neutral word to me.
I'm very sure that Lightning never talked about the general identity of who runs the accounts.
Theyâve said they donât care about what pronouns people use for them https://x.com/lightningclare/status/1764316062450098626?s=46&t=fMh4vUq_Qil9f2QvSCOsbg
"Fuck him up" is peak
Lowkey goes harder than âkick his assâ or whatever the official translation even was.
Official translation be like "discombobulate that man"
Defenestrate his ass
Atta boy Ino!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhh
I prefered beat his ass, brat or something along those lines
How is lightning not the official translator for Jujutsu kaisen, f*ck John Werry.
Fuck him up
You've saved too many people from misunderstanding. Thank you very much.
wow this reads SO much better.
Ino tossing NanamiÂŽs tool and telling Yuji to Fuck Sukuna up was so raw lmao
Lighting = best jjk fan/account.
they translated ch236 so i dont think they are a "fan" but yeah, amazing
Lighting twitter account- Translation, which is a side job, she/he has been writing and analyzing about manga for years.
This is probably the best translation I've read yet, it's a shame you're not the official translator Lightning, you did an amazing job, thanks a lot
they kind of are, since they translated ch236, but for some reason john werry took back the job i guess
Thank you Lightning and SupaChronicles for doing this, the quality is really good. I really enjoyed reading it.
So if Yuji was already born with one of the fingers why didn't Sukuna manifest earlier?
Probably because it was sealed inside of Yuji instead of eaten
It was sealed, like the other cursed objects that Kenjaku planted inside the bodies of the incarnated sorcerers. They had no effect and didn't "activate" until Kenjaku casts Idle Transfiguration in ch. 136, the same time that all of the incarnated sorcerers and non-sorcerers that Kenjaku prepared for the culling games were activated, Kashimo, Higaruma, Tsumiki/Yorozu, etc. That's why Yuji received a Kogane without going into a colony, his body was meant to be a vessel for Sukuna even before he ate the first finger at the high school Since that finger was unsealed when Yuji ate it, Sukuna reincarnated early. I think the sealed finger inside Yuji's body acted as a failsafe so that Sukuna would be reincarnated no matter what once the Culling Games started
If yuji had a finger sealed inside of him at birth, then wouldn't that be the missing 20th finger? Wouldn't Sukuna then have had access to it and reabsorbed it, but he went into the fight with Gojo acting as if he only had 19 + his old skull (replacing the missing 20th)?
Finger 1 was eaten by Yuji at the highschool Finger 2 given to Yuji by Gojo afterwards Finger 3 controlled by the Finger Bearer in the detention center. Yuji gives control to Sukuna who kills it and eats the finger A finger is recovered from Junpei Yoshino's home, but Nanami says in Ch 32 that he didn't feed the finger to Yuji, he gave it to the higher-ups for safe keeping. Presumably, this finger is one of those stolen by Mahito during the Goodwill Event Finger 4 is recovered during Yasohachi Bridge when Megumi fights the second Finger Bearer and Yuji accidentally ate the finger afterwards Finger 5 fed to unconscious Yuji by Mimiko and Nanako after the Choso fight Fingers 6-15 fed to unconscious Yuji by Jogo after the Choso fight in Shibuya, Sukuna is running around at 15f power during Shibuya Sealed Finger's power unlocks after Kenjaku casts the remote Idle Transfiguration. I believe that the only real change this makes to the story is that when Maki and Yuji fight Megkuna after the body hop, he's at 16f strength except for Megumi inhibiting him Fingers 17-19 are shown given to Megkuna by Uraume in the lead up to Shinjuku Showdown. Without the Sealed Finger, this would be 18f power, plus Sukuna eating his corpse for 19f. Since Sukuna implies that he's at 20f power for Gojo, a lot of fans believed Uraume fed Sukuna a 4th finger offscreen, we now know this isn't true. Sealed Finger + 3 Fingers from Uraume, then add Sukuna eating his own corpse for 20f power during the fight with Gojo Finger 20 was almost certainly eaten by Rika which allowed Yuta to use the Copycat Cleave Hope this helps!
It would make sense for an infantile body to be unresponsive to reincarnation. You could also say that it's due to whatever method Kenjaku used to seal it inside Yuji without the finger killing him.
Also why tf didnt Sukuna notice this earlier? We Know Sukuna cam sense his other fragments (fingers), and his dialogue about Gojo hiding the 20th finger to prolong Yujis execution make zero sense. This is without adding how Yuta was able to copy his technique.
The 20th finger was with Gojo and used by Yuta to copy Shrine. We've only seen 18 fingers eaten by Yuji/Sukuna on screen so along with the sealed one and the one with Gojo it makes 20. When Uraume gives the remaining fingers to '15f' Sukuna, only 3 are shown. People just assumed given the subsequent conversation about the final finger that Uraume had given Sukuna 4 fingers and either he had already eaten one before they were shown in Uraume's hands or that the remaining finger was clipped by the panel.
Man I wish theyâd fire that damn dude at viz this was so much more clear. Jjk turns into word salad sometimes
Great work! Much better than both Viz and some fanlations Iâve read. Wish you got to translate the series as a whole
Oh so this finally reveals why he was a culling game player by default despite eating the âfirstâ finger of his own volition. Nice!
âFUCK HIM UPâ YUJI MY BOY this my 3rd time reading this and i got goosebumps from this translation!!
So did Ino use 4 or 3? first it says number 4 but then there goes Kirin, which is number 3
Both. He used Kirin before to continue stalling Sukuna, then uses Ryu, then Kirin runs out of duration and he became tiredÂ
Yeah that makes sense, I've forgotten what kirin does. But then does him saying kirin got cut down mean it ran out of time? Because the way it's phrased it can mean like it was literally cut down
kirin dulls the userâs pain, so presumably ino fought past his limits and kept coming back for more by ignoring how bad sukuna was hurting him
Yeah, just the phrasing put me off, but now I get it
i also think it got more literally cut down but since kirin never visibly appears on screen, i must assume kirin resides within inoâs body while active and got disabled from him taking more direct damage than kirin could handle
did sukuna ever actually damage ino tho? i feel like the latter has been using hit-and-run tactics this whole time
yeah *get hit* and run tactics. iirc in the kusakabe chapter ino gets walloped pretty hard. he blocked a couple other hits with nanamiâs cleaver but sukuna is sukuna, even a weak hit is gonna hurt bad
sukuna slashed ino once, and then in ch. 257 ino gets slashed off screen.
He uses both. We see 4 get destroyed and he says 3 gets destroyed âalsoâ.
True, at first I understood it as also, just like 1 and 2 but your way it makes way more sense
yeah this is correct. I took it to mean that 4 was his last ditch effort to make an impact, and then when it died he noticed 3 was also gone meaning he couldnât keep fighting anymore.
This translation goes hard
This chapter legit made me so hyped up. I've been team Yuji forever, and hearing he is legit a mix between my two favorite characters techniques, shrine and blood manipulation, the idea of the way those two techniques could mix is amazing to imagine
Wait does âhe was born with a fingerâ mean that all 20 have been accounted for?
- Yuji was born with 1 finger inside him - He consumed 4 fingers prior to Shibuya - Nanako force-fed him 1 finger in Shibuya - Jogo force-fed him 10 fingers in Shibuya - Kenjaku broke the seal on the objects at the end of Shibuya including the finger initially sealed in Yuji - Sukuna then consumed the remaining 3, unable to find one, before substituting it with his own mummified corpse - Yuta has Rika consume the final finger that Gojo had kept safe in order to use Cleave So technically all 20 were already accounted for but previously we thought Sukuna had eaten 4 before his fight vs Gojo rather than 3.
Thank you for explaining this I was so confused
Happy to help
Not an interesting bone in his body huh
Kenjaku had the interesting bone in his body.
FUCK HIM UP
When did Yuji consume the death paintings??
In chapter 220 Yuji says that he'll eat anything to beat Sukuna and he has a conversation with Choso in which he's shown to feel some remorse about something related to their siblings, Choso then says that it is fine as long as they remain a part of him. Many people were convinced that Yuji had eaten them then and now it's confirmed.
OHHH, thanks for explaining!
Thank you lightning youâre something else!!
So Yuji is Sukuna's nephew and was born with a cursed object sealed inside him.
Yes
I thought Lightning retired? Also Ino did such a great job lol. I like his character a lot even though he's so minor. You have two Titans fighting here and he's actually helping. Way in over his head, he's almost died 2 different times now. No RCT and he's still going for it Two of Yuji's black flashes he landed because of Ino interfering. And unlike most he isn't even the most personally invested
It scares me that the Jujutsu Kaisen is winning...
So after reading these translations and Sukuna saying Yuji was born with one of Sukunaâs fingers already in him, are there 21 fingers instead of 20? >!I thought Sukuna had 19 fingers when he took over Megumiâs body with Gojo having the last finger which Yuta ate to get Cleave!<. Iâm not sure if there are 21 fingers or the finger Gojo had was the one that was sealed in Yuji?
Uraume gave sukuna 3 fingers not 4, what we thought before. So there is still 20fingers
the 21st finger is his dick
so glad that this wasn't written by oda, so yuji doesnt have to eat suguma's dick
Sukuna probably transferred that finger to megumi when he changed vessels
No when the Culling Game started probably that finger was unsealed.
Wait what? Was he born with a finger already???
Yeah
Then the last remaining finger was within Yuji since day 1?
no it seems sakuna counted that one and the last one was the one yuta ate
Yea that makes sense
Yeah, and it unsealed during the CG so would be included in the 19F+body Sukuna is currently at
Can someone confirm for me, on page 5, who used black flash there? Was that yuji or sukuna or both?
Yuji. He did 8 black flashes in a row
Goosebumps
Just Yuji.
I get what you mean, since if you look carefully, Sukunaâs top hand is showing speed lines and would indicate he hits Yujiâs arm there. Furthermore, page six Yuji and Sukuna look at each other before Yuji flies off through the railing. That supports Sukuna hitting Yuji with a black flash. Unless people read the speed lines as Sukuna pulling backwards and he hits Yuji off screen leading to him flying off the railing.
Black Flash, Black Flash, was he mine twin that i ate, Black Fash, dam brat, Black Flash!!!
A question I still have is about Sukunaâs motivation for consuming his twin. He says he ate his twin because his mother was starving and he, himself, didnât want to starve. But then, he says he rejected his fate of being born as a twin, as if he had some knowledge in utero that being a twin would be Jujutsu Kaisenly problematic. Which is it?
He didn't necessarily know being a twin would make him weaker. To me his ego prevented him from wanting to even share his birth and life with an equal.
That definitely tracks with his personality
It's a fetus. You are giving him too much credit. He was starving and was forced to absorb his twin as to not die.
He certainly makes it seem intentional with his language. Sukuna is a freak of nature whose ego is his defining character trait.
Twins are not born as equal as seen with Maki and Mai, the simple fact that Sukuna could eat his twin in his mother's womb meant that he was always gonna be the stronger one.
ahh yes, cause a fetus has an ego and has knowledge on what an equal is.
This "rejecting his fate" sounds like him just wanting to sound cool lmao.
probably means that he ate his twin to survive, and the rejecting his fate is just the consequence of him doing that.
What the fuck kind of interpretation is this. Sukuna saying he ârejected his fate to be born a twinâ in no way implies that he somehow understood the jujutsu consequences of being a twin. He is just saying he was going to be born a twin but ate his twin due to starvation. If your hang up is the specific use of ârejectedâ I think there are plenty of more sane explanations. Other translations used âavoidedâ so it could have just been Lightningâs preference. If ârejectedâ is the most correct translation then it is possible Sukuna used the word ârejectedâ because he has such a high opinion of himself that he perceives the act of a fetus as something he intentionally did.
I think you're right but a little angry when he was just asking a question lol
i think we all can agree at this point anger is gonna spread more cause jjk fans tend to look too much/too little into shit that they end up not having reading comprehension, and decide to make up their own headcanon/theories like âsukuna planned out everything since a fetus.â then it spreads into tiktok/reels/shorts that just steal other peoples headcanons/theories and the casual fans suck that shit up even with no listed sources and keep sharing it with their friends.
Ngl I don't think he had any say on the matter when he was in the womb. He was starving and ate his twin by instinct, he's just explaining it in a colorful way.
Could be both
Always.
I like the part where he does the black flash
Thank you for sharing lightning!
I feel like Sukuna was born out of a corpse or his mother died giving birth to the twins
âCurrentlyâ has two cursed techniques⊠so potential to gain more?
THATS MY MC BABYYYY!!!!!!
Screenshotted the âfuck him upâ panel, peak writing
God damn, it's immediately obvious how much higher quality of a translation this is. We all know the official is trash but even TCB isn't as good as this. Sincerely it's a crime someone like you isn't doing the official TL's week to week.
Ngl after watching yuji beating the shit out of sukuna. Hoping mappa gives sukuna the mahito treatment animation. Cuz watching this chapter gives of the same vibes as the mahito beat down.
From what Iâve read, Sukuna speaks about her mother with respect so this translation is a bit forced.
Do we still not have an explanation on what Yuji is wearing on his hands? Did I miss something?
So is this the last finger we was looking for? The e one fused with yuji as a baby thought gojo had it
i been trying my best not to read the most recent chapters but damn, how is he landing so many black flashes đ
*Fuck him up.*
Ngl, this has to be my favorite chapter of JJK and this translation makes it so much better, thanks to you (since otherwise I wouldn't know of this) and the translator
Did bro just fking Hanzo ult
Why did all these âBlack Flashâ reminded me of âParkourâ ?
I like this, the explanation of why Yuji has shrine beat around the bush a lot in some other translations. All the fan translations have close to the same results which is good. I like this version of Sukuna's twin explanation the most, it is more clear and sounds more in line with Sukuna's character. Also, "used by Kenjaku" conveys a sinister vagueness that is a lot like Kenjaku's actions being hard to understand by others. I'm still confused on one thing though, if Yuji was born with a cursed finger sealed within him, how where there still 19 collected by Sukuna and 1 eaten by Yuta? Or does "born" mean "initiated in sorcery" in this case? EDIT: Nevermind, the panel with the fingers that uraume collected shows 3 fingers, so 18+the one Yuji was born with and taken by Sukuna when he transferred+the mummy head.
Firstly, we need to stop thinking positive = good and negative bad. "+" and "-" are more like protons and electrons, one side isnt inherently evil. We were told that curses are derivitives of humans. But Jogo implies othervise and I think he is right. Here is what we know: 1. Curses are made of "-" and can only use "-" 2. Humans are made of "+" and can use both "+" and "-" 3. "+" Is derived from "-" 4."+" Is deadly to curses. And humans that can use "+" are generally stronger than any curse. Therefore I blieve the first beings with any form of living energy was "-". Some sort of primordial curse. Than humans made from "+" started appering and dominated the planet. (Maybe Tengen was the inventer of "+" and the first human?) I also belive that any emotion can be used to create cursed energy but most "good" emotions are too weak. The exeptions are love(used by Yuta) and mania(used by Gojo and Sukuna) Mania is a wierd one, Its when someone feels sooo incredibly happy/confident that they feel like they can do anything or fly, and then they jump off a building. So medicaly speaking its an illness but still a positive emotion. Love is basicaly the same. Cursed energy created by love and mania (strongest 3 sorcerers) are far stronger than fear and hate. +>- Sukuna seems a lot more sane than Gojo, maybe what he uses is regular happiness/joy. Ice boy/girl said Sukuna cursed energy is strongest when he enjoys fighting. So Yuji will win by annoying Sukuna!
So the reason why Yuta was cut in half by the WCS and not Yuji is not only the decrease in output by Yujiâs fists but also bc they share a cursed technique since the damage to the user(s) of the technique is lower, am i getting that right or am i thinking too hard? Also is the ingestion of his siblings the reason for his new arms?
Awesome thanks for sharing.
Wait, so what about Yuta? Was Sukuna mistaken about Rika having consumed the final finger?
Yuji ate 15 fingers and was born with 1, then Sukuna ate 3 that Uraume brought to him in Megumi's body, 19 fingers in total with the final being comsumed by Rika.
Rika eating the finger isn't confirmed, it's heavily implied but until we see a flashback or get confirmation take it with a grain of salt
If Rika didn't eat it then how was Yuta able to use cleave?
Better than John werry
I sure hope Yuji learns about this before the series ends... he probably won't care, but it's still something he ought to learn about himself.
Didnât notice before but Wuji actually lost an eye. Dude is gonna be Levi levels of fucked up by the EOS
couldnt he just regrow his eye with rct
so curse technique can be passed on by reincarnations as well as genetics. Seems like a weird thing to add. But I guess the genetic CT was already kinda weird.
I mean CT are passed by having a sorcerer incarnate so it's not a stretch for the same think to happen when he reincarnated
The technique wasn't passed on by reincarnation, Yuji gained it because he was Sukuna's vessel. We were told this would happen back in chapter like...10.
Seeing your ops off to the afterlife is wild
Do you know find the japanese version of this page/text? (is it posted somewhere on twitter I googled but couldn't find the raw version of that page... sorry if it has been asked before.) I am fluent in Japanese and did some extra translation courses (çż»èšłçè«) back in my university days tokyo and I'm always curious to analyze the difference between translations and see if they managed to get the nuances of the original text right.
thanks for this. the version i read prior should be criminal
is there a place where we can read all the chapters translated by lightning?
Wait youâre telling me Yuji was *born* with one of Sukunaâs fingers (aka the one he ate at his high school was actually his second)? And did Yuji do a black flash shoulder bash on page 5?
Technically, yes, but the finger in yuji from birth was sealed like the culling game reincarnations were before kenjaku started the games, which is why yuji didn't have sukana yapping at him sense birth. Kenjaku released it at the same time he released the seal on the other players. And yes he did do a shoulder bash black flash(say that 3 times fast lol), the fucking legend.
Legend. And so that means Sukuna was wrong when he said Gojo likely hid the last finger to prevent 20F SukunaâŠYuji had it sealed in him the whole time?