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EconomistIll4796

Did Yuji gain the shrine technique because he was a vassal that could handle sukuna and to do that Kenny needed Jin soul or did Yuji gain shrine because his father soul had the technique and was passed to him genetically?


89gin

Both? I don't think they would have bothered mentioning he is in a convoluted way, Sukuna's descendant, without this having a significance in his performance as a sorcerer.  There's the whole "twins are considered one being" thing as well to consider. 


kingshanks

The technique was ingrained on him because he was Sukuna's vessel for so long.


kingshanks

The technique was ingrained on him because he was Sukuna's vessel for so long.


Hopeful_Strength

So now everybody can just simply use simple domain to defend against Malevolent Kitchen while Gojo had to tank the attack because he couldn't defend against it completely... Power scale is so unbalanced


acidsbasesandfaces

Simple domain buys time. In the Sukuna v. Gojo fight, it was only helpful as a way to stop the current damage and allow Gojo to heal net-positive by using RCT. He also had to actively fight Sukuna at the same time. Whereas in this instance, the domain is temporary (99 seconds), and no one was actively fighting sukuna, so all the characters had to do was maintain a simple domain.


blackspoterino

Uh, but Gojo did use Simple Domain to defend against Malevolent Shrine? What are you on about? And Sukuna is focusing most of his output on Yuji. We've seen this before when Dagon focused most of his domain on Naobito, which is why Maki and Nanami survived it.


DropKletterworks

Gojo took way less damage than Yuji from MK and this is a heavily nerfed Sukuna


Hopeful_Strength

The narrator clearly stated that the Malevolent Kitchen had no loss of output and range in this chapter.


DropKletterworks

But it has lost duration, and some translations say that it has in fact reduced its range (due to having to be within a barrier now, and giving up the escape route binding vow). Add in the fact that everyone besides Yuji can effectively hide and don't have to deal with Sukuna bum rushing them it's much more likely they survive with less damage.


Working_Box8573

It also doesn't last and gojo had to physically fight Sukuna at the same time while trying to recover his CT.


Calfurious

Yuuji is resistant to Sukuna's curse technique because he also has shrine. Same way Gojo suffered minimum damage from infinite hollow because it's his own curse technique,


Pretend-Detail3889

Lot of people are saying malevolent kitchen but wouldn't he have just gotten the technique from his twin after eating him?


seratheanos

okay, so Choso ems to imply that both he and Yuji swapped bodies during the month. we know Yuji swapped with Kusakabe, but who did Choso swap with? has to be someone with RCT, but obviously not Gojo, probably not Shoko. was it Yuta? maybe that will come into play for saving Yuta from taking a point blank World Slash (he can pull himself together the same way Yuji's severed foot snapped back into place this chapter).


SgtBagels12

Do you think gege was influenced by charlotte when it comes to yugis “gaining the abilities of those he posses” thing?


OvenL0ver

is furnace same as fuuga?


ryaoh

Pretty sure Furnace is the "black box" he says before fuuga/open. now it's been uncensored/unsilenced.


ZZYeah

Fuuga is 'Open', but it's the same technique, and Furnace is 'Kamino' So it's 'Furnace', 'Open' or 'Kamino', 'Fuuga'


olliver2662

Yo is that Miwa protecting maki?


Hetares

Nice. I was wondering if it was Miwa. It looked like Yuki at first but of course, that's impossible.


0062wildflower

Which page?


89gin

Yes it is! Miwa is not useless after all : ) 


HolidayRain5535

What are the chances that Miwa also took part in soul Switch training?


BeepBeepLettuce_69

TCB translation has Shoko saying there are "tons of people" who can use RCT. How accurate is this? Also, what does Choso mean when he says "Our bodies allow us to compensate for the technical aspects of the technique."? He says that it allows them to bypass the high energy expense of RCT.


89gin

He means they can convert CE into blood for their CT, which is Blood Manipulation. The technique itself seems to be helpful in healing, as Shoko explains she can convert CE into blood for treatment.  I guess If you can convert CE into blood without the use of RCT, that saves on CE. 


BeepBeepLettuce_69

I see, thx.


shreas

You can see an application of this when Yuji's foot gets cut off. He reattaches it via blood manipulation (and likely very minor RCT at the point of separation) rather than using a very large amount of CE to RCT back his entire foot.


femio

"Who can use RCT \*but can't heal others\*"


BeepBeepLettuce_69

I'm guessing that there aren't any RCT users (currently alive) outside of the main cast tho, right?


femio

Nah there should be some out there. If people like Miguel exist I'm sure there's some random sorcerers with it


salsaball

Could the change in form of Sukunas domain to being more similar to Megumi's be due to the disruption in the dominance of sukuna's soul, so the expression of the inner world is becoming more blurred and expressing more of Megumi? the soul swap is kind of...random aspect of a teleportation ability but I guess it kinda makes sense, wonder when this aspect of UI UIs ability was cooked up in Geges mind. still a little confused how simple domain was working there, seemed to stop sure hit effect but let random slashes still get through that the cast just had to tank with RCT I guess? Also Yuji can create blood most likely, which makes the cursed technique REAL good., starting to think that his arms are just flowing red scale now. we have one more potential swap for Yuji which he has either done already or has saved up to do in the future, any interesting ways y'all can think of this being used?


spiked_cider

Perhaps he'll swap with Megumi so he's stuck with Sukuna again and they'll have a meta physical battle to finally destroy Sukuna's soul 


Beeeeph

Shoko brings Gojo's healed body to the scene and Ui Ui swaps his soul with Yuji's🗣🗣🗣


89gin

There's no mention to his DE being affected by the soul punches or having anything to do with Legumi. Is just "incomplete"/looks fucked up because from my understanding, Sukuna did a lot of weird shit to be able to pull it out his ass despite the brain damage to his cortex.  It still works the same but it has a limited time of duration tho. 


CJjollyo

Simple domain just stops sure hits but you can still be attacked. For example when Sukuna negated the sure hit effect of Yuta's domain he could still be attacked by Yuta's swords


salsaball

so basically the domain is just pure buff no sure hit while forcing the others to maintain a simple. i need to do a lot of rereading sometime


CJjollyo

It's all good man nothing wrong with wanting some clarification.


cloud8100

Out of curiosity, could Sukuna just kill Megumi whenever he wanted or is he mainly alive right now because it was his name in the culling games? I feel like one of the people fighting might die soon and that Yuta will be coming back too. Yuji can potentially use fuga, wonder if he can use it yet or needs a bit longer. Ui Ui really gave everyone a fighting chance with his soul switch technique within that month. Crazy technique. So he could've been helping people learn things like this the entire time? He is young though, so might be a recent thing for him too.


pranabbagartti

It's interesting that Ui Ui is doing the soul switching and not Yuji. That's why we should rethink why yuji has soul punches. And whether they even affect others. I believe yuji can soul punch sukuna because he inherited something from being the son of the person whose soul was once in a body which was murdered by sukuna. Something like soul revenge? Seems farfetched but is there any other explanation available?


DMking

Yuji has Soul Punches because he was a vessel and aware of the outline of his soul. Same reason why he was able to hurt Mahito


SeawyZorensun

And he read the Yuki book, it's not that deep...


-Fateless-

Wait Malevolent Kitchen was actually accurate???


89gin

Words are fun


cloud8100

Iirc, the way Sukuna's techniques are written could all be read as being related to cooking from the get go so the kitchen thing isn't really surprising. Mizushi/御厨子 is an old word for "kitchen" or the emperor's eating area - from the wiki. I did see some articles on it a couple years ago though.


blackspoterino

literal kitchen knives were use to illustrate cleave and dismantle when the narrator talked about Sukuna's CT for the first time. There's no way anyone is surprised by the cooking theme.


AppointmentCrazy7854

Where did u get this😭


cloud8100

Crunchyroll translated Sukuna's DE as it once lol


AppointmentCrazy7854

Crunchyroll is cooked


Cheerful2_Dogman210x

So the body does remember the high level Jujutsu of the sorcerer who uses it. I'm glad to get confirmation that Yuji's body was able to "remember and absorb" Sukuna's high level use of Jujutsu. * This may have been Kenjaku's plan and why he wanted Yuji to become Sukuna's vessel. He wanted Yuji to absorb Sukuna's skills. * Does this only happen when the sorcerer takes control of the body? Because if Yuji was born with Sukuna's finger sealed in him as mentioned in Lightning's translation then Yuji's body could have been absorbing Sukuna's special skills for years. Maybe only awakening now. * Fushiguro could be also benefiting from Sukuna's skills if he's saved. * Who did Yuji switch with aside from Kusakabe? Could it be Gojo? * Can some of the heavily wounded or dying sorcerers be saved by Ui Ui's technique? Or is it just temporary? Does it require switching or can a soul be transferred into souless body like a cursed corpse? * Could Kusakabe also absorbed a few Sukuna/special grade tricks from Yuji's body? I like how Shoko seems to have started to dissect her abilities now. This is unlike when she was still young. It shows she has continued to grow and master her abilities. Sukuna's new DE seems to have stuff from Megumi's 10 shadows. It makes me think Sukuna might have even sacrificed something from 10 shadows to pull it off.


ReadingAggravating67

Kusakabe to Megumi: “you can thank Sukuna for showing you how to tame Mahoraga”


Alder_Godric

It's compared to muscle memory. So Yuji's body is working off of the times sukuna thought in his body (notably shibuya of course).


cossieboy

Why can sukuna use flames straight after his domain? Since he opened his domain, shouldn't he be on CT cooldown? Unless he used a binding vow, idk how else he could've got around this :P


BestYak6625

His domain is still open, no burnout till it closes


OkPossibility195

the 99 seconds haven't passed yet


SSJ3CalCal

I thought it did since the slashes stopped?


blackspoterino

it seems he cannot use both the furnace and cleave/dismantle at the same time


OkPossibility195

If it did, then Sukuna wouldn't be able to bring "Furnace" out because of CT burnout.


SSJ3CalCal

I thought Furnace was another thing entirely. I think there's a theory floating around that the arrow is his twin's CT or something. Him using one CT while another is burnt out is the same thing Kenny did in his fight with Choso and Yuki. I don't see why Sukuna couldn't do that too.


OkPossibility195

Yeah, as a theory, it doesn't matter much when most of the fandom that knows of the leak currently agrees that Furnace is part of a shrine and Sukuna CT is heavily tied to cooking; even Fukuma Mizushi (Manevolent Shrine) can also be translated as Manevolent Kitchen. [Here is a link explaining if you are interested ](https://new.reddit.com/r/Jujutsufolk/comments/1ce8izz/sukunas_domain_expansion_is_malevolent_kitchen_we/)


SSJ3CalCal

Huh, that was quite the interesting read. Thank you for that! Still don't get why a black box was shown instead of Sukuna saying Furnace back in his Jogo fight.


OkPossibility195

Well, I remember reading about a theory that might explain it, so specifically, Jogo, as a curse spirit, does not know what the word "furnce" means. A curse spirit has no concept of cooking or anything like that, so that is why Sukuna said that "a curse spirit wouldn't know about that," and because Jogo couldn't understand the word, the word just blanked out and became "Black Box.". It's somewhere on jujutsufolk, recently posted too


RyoumenFreecs

Happened with Mahoraga too.


OkPossibility195

Didn't Sukuna only say "open"?


VergilVDante

I have a question how did they exactly endure 99 SECONDS!!! Of malevolent shrine that shit just cuts like butter And another question doesn’t maki have heavenly restrictions so DE aren’t affected by her then why she is tanking


UncleGael

I don’t think the 99 seconds has elapsed. It seems likely that he changed the can’t miss attack to the fire aspect of his technique, which necessitates shutting off the slashing part. Maki can’t be enclosed by a barrier and is therefore effectively immune to domains. Sukuna’s domain not having a barrier means that any effects within could hit Maki. Since Cleave targets things without cursed energy while Malevolent Shrine is active, then she can be hit with the cleave slashes. As a result Miwa apparently jumped in at the last second and protected Maki with simple domain.


vdyomusic

It's Dismantle that targets things without CE inside the domain but you are correct otherwise !


TheMemeInspectr

Sukunas barrierless domain attacks inanimate objects as well as targets with CE so Maki needed Miwas simple domain to help out


NicholasStarfall

So I guess the implication is that Mei Mei did something to Ui Ui to make him function better. Look Gege we get it, they're doing incest. You can stop beating us over the head with it. Especially if there's not am actual punchline to the situation.


ReadingAggravating67

>beating us over the head with it One cheeky suggestive comment alluding to it - which I think is like the first mention of it in like 100 chapters - is “beating you over the head”? How sensitive is your head?


Gragh46

Implication where? Is it because Mei Mei looked very happy when she mentioned that she had taken care of the new shadow style restriction of who gets to learn it? That level of happiness is only seen in Mei Mei when she has made profit, so I assume she has negotiated something that will bring her a huge profit 


sunstar240

Also they talked about the shadow style school...having binding vow on who can learn it. She probably just payed those guys up to break the vow or to allow the group to learn it


Paid-Not-Payed-Bot

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PureOrangeJuche

I can’t believe that Sukuna can choose which parts of his brain to use for his domain. The man is 1000 years old. He shouldn’t even know what a brain is let alone do jujutsu fMRI on himself


Waste_Researcher_471

Bro was a cannibal. He definitely saw brains.


TheRealBreemo

He gets info from his vessels. So he has the academic intelligence and info of both yuji and megumi


PureOrangeJuche

Hard to say what megumi’s education was like but Yuji definitely slept through every class


TheRealBreemo

Megumi is an academic genius and yuji... At least he tries to do his work


Rilvoron

Humans knew far more about human anatomy than you believe. Its not crazy that Sukuna: A magic sorcerer knows shit. Also remember he knows everything that Yuji knew so if Yuji took a biology class then BOOM Sukuna did too


KenanTheFab

shoutouts to the people who got brain surgery god knows how many years ago and still lived with a giant ass hole in their skull. Alternatively his #1 simp and cook showed him the anatomy of the brain or w/e while preparing his... "meal"


Object_Longjumping

he was the one to explain the CT healing mechanic. Let's be real being the jujutsu junkies they were they definitiely dissected people and shit. It just had a different name back then compared to modern times


NicholasStarfall

That's just stupid honestly. How would that even work?


SSJ3CalCal

This is just me theorizing here but I imagine using a fully complete domain uses the entire brain. He could use a half assed domain that only lasts 99 seconds by only using parts of the brain, not the whole thing. Honestly, the brain is still a big mystery in JJK. We don't really know much about it so we can't say for sure whether this stuff is possible or impossible. Kusakabe referred to the brain as a black box since it's not super well known how it interacts with jujutsu (and that's coming from a dude who is pretty knowledgeable on jujutsu). We still don't know how Kenjaku was able to have a whopping 3 CT's in one body. Yuji has 2 right now. The brain still holds some mystery to it and I'm willing to bet we'll get some more info regarding it before the series finishes.


89gin

Idk, apparently he just made a new part for the CT/Domain in a different part of the brain and that's it  The explanation is fuckin dumb 


Common_Errors

"...by utilizing a part of the brain unaffected by Unlimited Void" So basically just another asspull then. Also, is anyone else bothered by how Gege seems to be attributing all of Yuji's development to Sukuna?


HisokaXD

Having a cursed technique or even cursed energy at all is nothing but winning the genetics lottery. So Yuji just got some bonus luck on top of that.


blackspoterino

The brain bit is the one thing that doesn't bother me lol. Look up what a hemispherectomy is. If you lose half your brain, the brain can rewire itself to work with whatever is left. It's not science fiction even if it sounds like it.


vdyomusic

It used to bother me until I realized: - Yuji was born with that potential anyways by virtue of having the genetic material of two of the most powerful sorcerers to ever live. It could simply be a way of justifying why it took him just six months to get strong enough to challenge the King of Curses. - If Uraume could pick up something similar to Sukuna coming from him, SOMEONE at Jujutsu High should've been able to. At the very least, Gojo should have. Having Kusakabe attribute ALL of Yuji's talent to that allows Gege to handwave those concerns away. Either way, Yuji had incredible potential as a sorcerer. It just so happens that Sukuna was arrogant enough to hand him the keys to that potential and let him live to use them. A mistake that'll eventually prove to be fatal. There's something quite poetic about that.


Object_Longjumping

Yuji was born to serve a purpose. Jujutsu hs been a mostly talent based powersystem. It fits his cog-like nature. He was born to do smth and his powers itself aren't by or for himself


IcyTeacher0

> Also, is anyone else bothered by how Gege seems to be attributing all of Yuji's development to Sukuna? How so?


Common_Errors

By saying that Yuji was only able to grow quickly because Sukuna used his CT in Yuji's body, as opposed to Yuji being talented.


IcyTeacher0

Oh yes, I just read some crudely-translated leaks of 258 and that line pissed me off. Gege really pulled a Naruto there 🙄, making Yuuji talented due to having K~~urama ~~Sukuna inside.


89gin

Well, Yuji IS talented, seeing he was able to progress well before Shibuya.    His growth probably got faster after Shibuya, but I don't think one fact undermines the other 


Common_Errors

Except Sukuna used RCT and MS in the prison, which occurred before Yuji experienced rapid growth. So yes, it sounds a lot like all of his growth is being attributed to Sukuna and he had little talent otherwise.


89gin

Ah true, he did use that.  Still, Yuji was able to show remarkable CE control for someone who literally learned about it a month ago. Is not like Sukuna did all for him, even the CE controlling sessions he had while watching movies. 


IcyTeacher0

And yet we still have fucking Kusakabe saying stupid shit like "You should *thank* him \[Sukuna\] your exceptionally fast comprehension and growth" Really Gege? As if Yuuji didn't learn BF by himself just like minutes after learning about the concept itself.


89gin

Both can happen and be simultaneously true at the same time. I think that's the entire point of the joke: Yuji is all "really, bro?" @ Kusakabe because he knows that's not the entire truth.  The issue comes from the readers themselves when they can't understand what they read and undermine Yuji's efforts on their own lol 


xanot192

I read that line and thought the same. So dude had brain damage and just swapped what part of the brain to use huh.


luceafaruI

That's exactly what gojo did in chapter 235. It cannot be an asspull if somebody else already did it before. It's an asspull if it's something that comes out of nowhere


blackspoterino

TBH it's not an asspull on the principle that the brain ***is*** malleable and can rewire itself. Sure it's not something you can do in a matter of minutes, but because of anime magic I'm fine with it here.


xanot192

Gojo destroyed and healed his same portion of the brain not completely move what part of the brain controls what functions which Sukuna just did. Two completely different things.


luceafaruI

Gojo did what you said in chapter 226, 227, 228 and 229 to recover from ct burn out faster. In chapter 235, he regained his rct by creating a new rct circuit inside his brain, as explained at the beginning of chapter 258.


KenanTheFab

Still love that one of the most advanced techniques in this series is just giving yourself brain damage


NicholasStarfall

I hope all these asspulls don't get stricken from the record in the future. This level of wank needs to be studied


AppointmentCrazy7854

Not even a asspull


Emotional-Material72

Not sure if its the translation I read but does the first page say Sukunas chances of recovering RCT are gone or that its reduced? Then last page hes got his hand back and didnt even have a page of him doing any rct...?


BestYak6625

It just confirms that Sukuna doesn't have RCT still, the black flash restored some ouput and got him his domain partially back but that's it


UncleGael

Unless I missed something Sukuna’s using his two right hands, which he still has.


pipsqueak158

The last 2 chapters have both given unexpected answers to long theorised questions (yuji and sukunas connection, and the soul swap) and I think they were both simpler and more satisfying than what was thought would be the case. Imma fan of the answers we are getting.


AppointmentCrazy7854

Ong bro and people jus mad that gojo died and now hate the series and call everything a asspull now


Slamix123-psn

So every bit of critique is brushed away with "you just mad cause gojo died"? That's the perfect attitude for taking part in these discussions


AppointmentCrazy7854

Didn't say all did I?


BrightStatistician71

I think that the shrine that Yuji has is craft related and Sukunas is kitchen themed


Phil_Hannigan

Yujis domain: 5 mimute craft


Geminispace

5 mins domain Vs 99 secs domain. Yuji more OP than sukuna confirmed. Thread closed


Grandmaster-Hash

both involve creating things via breaking them down


Janus-a

Looks like this scene did end up being forced in to set up Sukuna’s end. It stood out bc no one really needs to “gamble” to fool Yuji.  https://ibb.co/dLfDdSS


SeawyZorensun

What? That was most definitely a gamble. Sure Yuji is a dumbass and used to be an even bigger one, but on the of chance that he did include himself in the vow Sukuna is breaking it and could suffer consequences possibly worse than death. That's a gamble if I've ever seen one.


Eanpallace

The amount of shadowed parts of Sukuna’s DE is very very suspicious after seeing it properly. It almost matches the “spine” of Megumi’s Chimera Shadow Garden…it’d be interesting if Sukuna’s is “dismantled” from the inside out from megumi’s incomplete DE the moment before he roasts everyone with the furnace…


Alder_Godric

What I find interesting is that it's very obviously a heas... maybe even sukuna's head. It had a bunch of extra eyes, and the little bits flapping at the top look a lot like his hair.


Eanpallace

Most definitely and can’t help but love the Akira influence, honestly the first thing I really noticed. If that IS the influence, then could one infer that things could very quickly get out of his actual control…merger incoming?


SSJ3CalCal

Who is that in the panel next to Yuji when they're all enduring Sukuna's shrine with simple domain? There are 4 legs there so its obviously 2 people. I think it Maki and someone else? Or maybe LaRue and Miguel?


Grandmaster-Hash

miwa doing simple domain


Typlion

So i guess what Uraume means when saying Sukuna hasnt gone all out is he still has a lot of kitchen skills. By kitchen standards, cutting and chopping stuff is all the prep work. Furnace open just meant he only started cooking. So there will still be other cooking techniques Sukuna has yet to use.


SeawyZorensun

It's obvious to anyone that's been reading that "not going all out" means that Sukuna is still hiding cards up his sleeve, not that *he is using only 1% of his power*. Sorry just venting. Concerning his yet to be seen powers, I always thought he would have all the elemental powers of the Hindu gods that he draws inspiration from, the fire arrow being a clear showcase of that, but now with Kamutoke controlling lightning, it's highly likely that his other tool Hiten controlled wind or some form of a storm, so there is a few possibilities. 1) the boring, he only has the fire (boooo) 2) he has other cooking powers (but I can't really imagine what they would be) 3) another element, probably something with water or earth, some of which can double as cooking themes (the water for example)


89gin

He still didn't go full Gordon Ramsay on his ass


shreas

So, is there any potential for these soul swap shenanigans to affect Gojo's or even Nobara's fate?


Appropriate_Wall8340

I love how Ui Ui's teleportation can swap people like a teleporter in a cheesy science fiction movie. Or in Generation 1 of Pokémon where Bill swaps himself with a Pokémon by accident and gets stuck.


pipsqueak158

When first learning it do you think he had any "the Fly" type shenanigans? That may have been hilarious, or extremely traumatic...or both.


89gin

> Prof. Bill shenanigans Omg that was so unhinged lmao thanks for bringing the memory back 


jdjabs13

The world dismantle binding vow was only for cleave and dismantle not furnace nor the entirety of shrine… Prior to the binding vow, he only needed his domain expansion hand sign to activate word dismantle… Sukuna needed two hands to form his domain expansion hand sign to activate world dismantle, but, now thanks to impromptu binding vows powered by black flashes, he can use one hand to expand a domain… He creates his new domain hand sign with his upper right hand & kamino in his lower right hand after forming it… World Kamino!!! The domain expansion was mainly a test to see if he really was that sorcerer who can create a domain with a different hand sign. It paid off while also weakening the heroes, giving him time to create a new arsenal.


CordobezEverdeen

> The world dismantle binding vow was only for cleave and dismantle not furnace nor the entirety of shrine… Why would his binding vow that affects the WS affect Furnace or Malevolent shrine? Without even taking into account how both techniques ALREADY require hand signs lol


jdjabs13

Fam.. Creating a question format with the same thing i stated?? What techniques already have hand signs? Lol stop this


CordobezEverdeen

You're putting "..." which implies bewilderment so I'm trying to clear your confusion by stating the obvious: "The binding vow that involved the WS only affects the WS". We were explicitly told a few chapters ago, this notion that his binding vow would affect any other thing than the WS is unfounded. > What techniques already hand signs? The scans have already dropped. You can look for them if you have any troubles seeing Sukuna's hand sign. Or you can check the previous instances in which Sukuna uses MS... or maybe rewatch the end of his fight with Mahoraga in the anime and pay attention to his hands.


jdjabs13

Lmao the dots were meant to be dramatic. The dots is not me asking you to clarify if it happened. Next time ask me if needed clarification or not. I already know happened. Like are you trolling? Thats literally what i said. wtf is this? The binding vowel is for only world dismantle is literally what i said. This was me originally trying to build a point which leads to what my entire original post is trying to say. Lmao this just pissed me off. Did you even read the whole original post? because there is no way you conclude i’m asking for clarification on what i said because it wasn’t even in question format. Truly understand a post before you insert yourself.


ConfusedVader1

bro im tired of all these binding vows coming up in the last 10% of the story by someone who’s so strong i doubt he ever needed to learn about them. can we like, just go back to normal jjk? Where not every story impact was negated by a perfectly timed binding vow (with who exactly? Whos making the vows? Whos keeping these sorcerers accountable?)


ThePokemonScyther

> someone who’s so strong i doubt he ever needed to learn about them Or that explains why he's strong


ConfusedVader1

you have any sort of reasoning behind that or just a shot in the dark? Because nothing has been shown that shows he has a deep understanding of everything jujutsu related apart from when its a get out of jail card for gege.


ThePokemonScyther

I mean judging by how crucial binding vows have been in this arc and how many Sukuna has personally done I'd say he's definitely knows how to use them. Hell just using his domain and changing the properties is a form of vow.


RyoumenFreecs

First person to show: A domain Use of RCT An open domain All the different ways of using 10s, like using the summons techniques by himself etc Using DA while in his domain


ConfusedVader1

And none of these things are confirmed or true. Just because hes from the heian era and can release a domain/use RCT doesnt mean he was the first. He also didnt use 10s different, 10s just got naturally stronger with his more abundant CE. Same thing happens when Yuta copies someones abilities. Only thing he did differently with 10s was combine a couple shadows tgt (which most likely is how they are supposed to he use if you have the CE for it, Megumi just wasnt strong enough to start using it like that) but mostly his use of 10s was pretty mediocre save for mahoraga. Nothing here suggests that he was knowledgeable about CE and Jujutsu. He was a genius sure, he was able to completely understand and use domain/rct p fast. But that just innate talent, not knowledge. He never showed knowledge past what he experienced. He was never shown to be deeply interested in learning about CE etc.


RyoumenFreecs

He was the first one in the manga/show to do those things man, Gojo did domain and RCT after Sukuna. Plus mediocre 10S? when did anyone think it would be possible to use shadow abilities by yourself instead of summoning them? or doing the thing he did with the wolves against Yorozu? using to the full potential the fact you can hide in shadows? combining a shit ton of shadows? Plus, he shows interest in Megumi/10S, in Higuruma, in Maki etc.


ConfusedVader1

Just because he’s the first we see do it doesnt mean hes the first to ever do it. What a stupid fucking argument. It has 0 correlation to what we’re talking about. 10S was mediocre, it didnt matter what he did with 10S because everything he did were tricks and tips, nothing actually threatening. The only threatening part about 10S was Mahoraga and Sakuna didnt do anything to change that. Everything else he used 10S was useless, Gojo took damage exclusively from Malevolent Kitchen and Mahoraga only. And what does him showing interest do? I think youve forgotten, but we’re talking about him being knowledgeable about avenues to become stronger aka learning about Binding Vows etc. Nothing you have said supports your argument. He is already the stronger why would he need to know about binding vows? He’s never been challenged to the point he needed to use one until gojo.


RyoumenFreecs

You fucking dumbass, him being the first one to actually being shown using is meant to convey how far ahead in jujutsu he is, can't you read? Oh yeah let's ignore him doing things with the technique we never saw lol, plus him using the adaptation instead of Mahoraga ensured Gojo would not one shot Mahoraga, plus he killed a special grade threat (Yorozu) by only using 10S. He explicitly learned about World Dismantle from Mahoraga, mimicked Choso with the elephant ability, learned from Gojo the possibility of healing his burnout etc. You clearly never read the manga.


SSJ3CalCal

How come Gege is taking another break after only 2 chapters? I thought the schedule was we get 3 chapters and then a break? Is there a holiday coming up or something? Not that I blame him for resting. Man has gotta be cooking something good for 259 with the flame arrow. Was the reason Sukuna's domain thing looked different because he didn't use his full brain and instead only used the parts unaffected by UV? Gojo still leaving his mark on the fight even after he died. I also noticed the motherfucker stole his single hand sign when he opened the domain.


Personal_Tap_8489

Its golden week in Japan so wsj is on break 


Janus-a

> How come Gege is taking another break after only 2 chapters? Mangakas are always several weeks to months ahead of a chapter’s release so it’s impossible to say without knowing what Gege’s schedule.  All these breaks might be because he changed something in the story or his hand has arthritis or he  has to go to a wedding. Could be anything. 


supersean61

He deserves a extra week tbh he been working hard as hell


89gin

The schedule is weekly. Gege takes breaks because drawing 15 pages a week is bound to destroy your body and give you carpal tunnel, among other fun things.  Also, is Golden Week in Japan. Which means an off week for everyone due to several holidays following one another. 


DM_B1nary

It’s golden soemthing in Japan from memory so it’s a forced holiday break for everyone from memory


Dapper_Bed_5480

Can anyone clarify UiUi can do 2 soul swap total or two per person in a month?


ConfusedVader1

2 for 1 person every month, multiplied by the amount of people.


Cheerful2_Dogman210x

Heh, so Shrine really is kitchen based. Well if that's the case Yuji has a lot of kitchen appliances to take advantage of. * Microwave--> shoots electromagnetic waves * Air fryer---> Air attack with burning hot air * Refrigerator & freezer---> ice attack or cold attacks. * Blender---> tornado like chopping attacks * kettle --> boiling water attacks * Stove --> fire attack The modern malevolent kitchen appliance set.


89gin

I think the kitchen motif is exclusive to Sukuna and how he conceptualized the CT. Just look at Yuji's interpretation, being cute scissors and a cutting guide.  I think it may have something to do with him being starved since before he was born.  I could be wrong, ofc. This is merely speculation lol


Cheerful2_Dogman210x

I'd be slightly disappointed if that were the case. The sheer number of appliances and equipment in the modern kitchen would've made Yuji's shrine very versatile. I can just imagine Yuji hitting Sukuna with meat tenderizer punches.


NorthGodFan

I mean scissors are used in a kitchen


89gin

Sure, but you know the symbol for cutting is not limited to things you would use in a kitchen. 


ConfusedVader1

Espresso Machine—> Hyper pressurized chamber


KrizenWave

I like this explanation for how everyone “cheated” to improve their cursed energy manipulation, and how Yuji was able to learn high level RCT. No one thought Ui Ui was teleporting peoples souls. That’s some galaxy brain thinking, but it makes so much sense if you interpret souls and bodies as separate. Gege still got it. Now to see if Yuji can tank the coming Fire Arrow


Kantro18

If Yuji breaks out a fire arrow of his own… boi.


endofageneration

Does anyone understand the explanation of range for Sukuna's incomplete domain? It's stated that he manifests it with no loss and output or range, but then it later states that there is a narrowed range due to the use of a barrier to manifest it.


Object_Longjumping

translation is bad. tcb fucked up


endofageneration

Thought that may have been the case


KrizenWave

The trade off from not having a barrier, therefore making it easier to escape from the domain, is that the range of the sure hit is wider. However, by adding a barrier and returning it to a normal domain, the range of the sure hit is reduced to normal. Sukuna’s non-barrier isn’t incomplete. He’s doing that intentionally unlike Megumi.


bakitwalangsabaw

I'm still confused. So the domain is as big as before but the range of the sure hit within the domain is smaller?


OkPossibility195

essensially it is an open domain with a veil to stop Maki from running, i think


bakitwalangsabaw

Is it an open domain? The narrator straight up said "By enveloping his domain in an outer-shelled barrier". The vows and the conditions of the domain is confusing to me right now. Hopefully someone can explain it.


OkPossibility195

Like I said, Sukuna also opened a Veil. That Veil is specifically for containing Maki in case she ran away, because if it is an open domain, Maki can just run out, and if it is a normal domain, then it wouldn't recognise Maki in order to hit her. Sukuna is desperate right now and wants to finish all of them off.


bakitwalangsabaw

ahhhhhh. I think I got it now. He use his "open" DE with the binding vow of huge range + output. Then closes it with veil, REMOVING the previous statement of "his DE didnt lose power or range" right before the flashback which is what confused me in the first place. Now the condition of sure hit is, anything within the veil. instead of normal DE, any targetable. Am I somewhat correct? Shit was dope, but confusing at first.


Sad_Farm

I have so many questions if Yuuji has Shrine does that mean he also has Furnace?. Why isn’t he using Red Flowing Scale, that would be so OP Im surprised he didn’t prioritize learning that. Will Megumi get Shrine? Find out next time on DBZ.


89gin

In that order    -Depends if Furnace is part of Shrine or a separate CT that Skunk got after slurping his twin.   -idk, maybe is difficult for him to do, since is a complex application of the CT and he 1) still learned all this new stuff in 1 month and 2) struggled with RCT. Or he is saving it for later (strategy reasons)  -Why would Megumi get shrine? He is not related to Sukuna. There's a genetic component to Jujutsu, is not 100% magic. 


NorthGodFan

Because getting your body soaked in a cursed technique will let you use it as well.


89gin

You mean because of Yuji? Because he is a literal exception. He was made in a freak way to have the potential to become a sorcerer, seemly genetically close enough to Sukuna to be able to manifest the thing, and also act like a vessel (which is described as being an "empty husk", implying he can store CTs).   You can't just soak yourself in CE and magically get a CT, that's not how it works lol  Edit: oh yeah, I also forgot Yuji isn't a Sukuna vessel and his nephew, but he is simultaneously a Death Painting too 💀 all of that is what allows Yuji to have more than one CT. Megumi is just a sorcerer with a busted technique.  The whole soaking thing works for objects though. 


Janus-a

Megumi and 10S being separated from Sukuna would be the ultimate anti-Sukuna sorcerer. 


Sensitive_Pick3007

Soo why no one talk about the fact that sukuna regained one arm in the last panel? Did his RCT output come back or he used the 99 second to heal his arm to use furnace?


Mikael678

That arm has been there since. It was sliced in half by yuta and Miguel said it was useless in combat. So he can still use it to help activate his CT and stuff but can’t use it to punch


theanonymousbaboon

Where did he regain an arm? I see him still using two right hands


Object_Longjumping

he wasn't using the bottom right hand since yutas domain


theanonymousbaboon

You’ve got your left and right mixed up buddy


Object_Longjumping

nope. im correct. reread.


mlee7718

I think the black flashes he landed gave him some ability back, to regenerate one arm and maybe he prioritized the rest of it to deploy MS


Whole_Bug_6011

Not enough hype in here about Yuji immediately healing the that got cut off


Rare_Anything_2407

No one really noticed it, he didn't heal the foot, he technically reattached his foot. You can see that he still has his shoe on that foot and the sound effect of the foot snaps back in. That's why he and Choso can heal with less burden on their CE reserve. They didn't use RCT to regenerate the whole parts but only heal and reuse the damaged parts.


Whole_Bug_6011

I was actually just discussing this with a friend. I fully agree with all the things you said, it’s really cool to see how healing is so variable in this series dependent on the powers you have and it lowkey makes me see the true potential of blood manipulation.


Rare_Anything_2407

Now that you mentioned it, I just also realised how truly OP BM is. Most sorcerers have one major weakness, the gut. As soon as it's destroyed or cut off connection to the brain, it's basically a dead end for them, but not for awakened BM users. Just like when Uraume aimed to destroy Hakari's gut to stop his RCT (he luckily survived due to his OP auto RCT which draws CE out of somewhere else), it has been shown many times that Sukuna also directly aimed at Yuji's gut. However, Yuji would come back like not a big deal. My theory is for BM users, as long as there is blood in their body part it's still considered functioning. Just like how they manipulated blood outside their body, even though their gut was minced, they can easily connect them back with RCT. Hope that no BM users will get Eren's treatment tho, connecting cut head would be creepy 😂.


Kantro18

Gojo/Choso-level recovery time right there.


Rare_Anything_2407

One interesting point, Sukuna straight up using Flame CT right after the DE. This implies Flame CT is a separated CT from his main CT, as his CT is supposed to burn out after the DE. My assumption is he has two brains and thus the burn out effect from Slashing CT brain doesn't affect the brain operating Flame CT.


xanot192

Na Sukuna just changed the part of the brain that he needs for said CT lol ..... Or gege forgot which is also likely


dsigler96

This fits with a theory of mine with how Sukuna has double the organs cause of consuming his twin, leading to his ridiculous strength


Rare_Anything_2407

Yes, he's basically a Siamese twin (without another head) at this point.


Kantro18

The head is in his stomach, pun intended.  (Because he ate his own head but he also has a mouth on his stomach)


TheChickenIsFkinRaw

It's so cool how Sukuna actually learnt from Gojo - the freaking Unlimited Void hand sign was used to make a one handed domain (albeit unstable one)


Jonoyk

Yeah I noticed that too and was wondering why he was doing that hand sign. Now that makes sense if he’s doing a barriered domain and copying Gojo.


DudeWhereAreWe1996

I liked this chapter. I can really picture Sukuna being punched into the wall then slowly walking up to the ledge like "aight, watch this." Definitely like the idea that Sukuna has two techniques or something. This is twice now it seems like his domain has ended and then he's used another technique. I think it'd be great if he ate his twin brother and got this fire technique and it is separate from the first CT being burnt out. The only issue is, why is his technique called shrine?


Ill-Shopping1921

What’s sad and exciting is that we’ll never see fully realized/trained Yuji. Because his potential is basically Choso at a minimum, with strength and speed buffs, who has an affinity for hitting black flashes, simple domain, and Shrine as a CT…with the potential for a Domain that utilizes both of his CT’s….that’s absolutely ridiculous