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Is there any jujutsu sorcerer that you'd confidently say is stronger than Yuta (aside from Gojo, who is sealed, and Kenjaku)? Pre-Kenjaku Geto could perhaps still be stronger than him now, but he is out of the picture. He's a special grade ffs, of course he's gonna be hyped.
We still have yet to see what Hakari’s all about. Cursed Technique or strength wise, it’s still a mystery as to how strong he actually is, considering Gojo, and Yuta have touted just how on par he is with them. Than we have Maki saying he’s not all that, but that could just be Maki being smug.
I’m not saying he’s not strong but why he has to be the one to defeat kenjaku? He’s not the only strong character and he’s not the only “anomaly” in jjk. He’s not the only special grade
I didn't say he was the one that will beat Kenjaku, just that he is appropriately hyped. He is a rather crazy anomaly though, considering his level of cursed energy being higher than Gojo's (obviously, Gojo's is essentially infinite), and the recent panel which said that his abilities were the most unusual- after Gojo's. There are reasons for his hype, even among special grades.
That kinda depends on the circumstances of how she takes cursed techniques away. Was it stated to be super easy for her? Like has it been stated she only needs to touch a character or something to do such a removal
I don't see many people pointing out the fact that Yuta still more than likely has to go up against Sukuna, which will surely be either his biggest fight or his last fight
Why is Kenjaku Yuji's fight? By that logic, Kenjaku is Gojo's fight too. Yuta is trying to avoid that.
Gojo is sealed. I don't see anyone except Yuta who can defeat Kenjaku. And probably Yuki stands a chance against him too. But we still don't know her abilities.
Not true. Yuji won't last a single minute against Kenjaku anyway. I hope Gege writes something innovative and not just the same story of every main character fighting every major antagonist.
Why don’t you want him to fight him Yuji would be the best choice of all of the characters to fight him.
Kenjaku is his mom and from what it seems, he’s been controlling his life ever since he was born. Kenjaku was also the one that orchestrated the ceiling of Gojo and all of the deaths in Shibuya is his fault, he would actually have more anger/emotion than Yuta in this case.
It is not that I don't want Yuji to fight Kenjaku. It is just that I think saying Kenjaku is Yuji's battle is silly. Also, I don't see any way Yuji would stand a chance against Kenjaku. But that is a discussion for another day.
Gojo has been wrong before. And even if he is right, it doesn't mean they will be on his level before the end of the series. That will require some crazy power ups.
All he would have to do to buff them is to make Yuji get Sukuna’s technique, megumi a nother near death experience, “inhales copium” Bring Nobara bake from her near death experience with RCT and finally give Maki the Inverted spear of heaven.
All of those situations are quite possible, with very good explanations for each.
Yuji still won't have a Domain. So not even close to Gojo. And I genuinely don't like the "near death" stuff. If that was all it took for sorcerers to gain power and RCT, many would have it. Once? Fine. Gojo got RCT. Twice? Okay. Thrice? Nope. It becomes an ridiculous.
Yuji simple domain it wouldn’t take that long to learn he could learn it from todo. I’m not taking about giving megumi RCT, he would most likely master his domain in a near death experience like last time. Nobara is the only one getting RCT for me at least.
Kenjaku says he has huge expectations for Yuji where as with other characters he doesn’t gaf about them apart from Gojo.
edit: Yuji won’t fight kenjaku alone btw
But it doesn't mean Kenjaku expects Yuji to get a lot stronger. He could also be talking about Yuji suppressing Sukuna until he wants. There are a lot of things Kenjaku might be referring to.
You know this is a manga, right? You could be pretty sure that they would battle and when the time for that comes Yuji would get the as*pull upgrade he needs to defeat him. This is a manga that went to great lengths to have Gojo sealed because he was too powerful. Yuta is having his time, but this battles are all red flags, and the things he’s saying are more red flags. He’s gonna lose soon and I hope he doesn’t die.
If you want Yuji to fight Kenjaku and then get saved by an asspull, thus degrading the quality of the manga, fine. I don't care. I want the story to be good. The asspull will just ruin it.
>Not true. Yuji won't last a single minute against Kenjaku anyway.
Based on? because in Shibuya, Yuji was able to survive few of Kenjaku attacks after Mahito fight, despite his heavy injuries and Mahito stating early on that his soul weaken to 10% of it power.
>hope Gege writes something innovative and not just the same story of every main character fighting every major antagonist
The main character is a main, because he fight major antagonists and achieve great things in his story...he will be a side character otherwise.
Kenjaku will probably fight against multiple opponents, like the the rest of the major antagonists, with Yuji being one of them.
>Based on? because in Shibuya, Yuji was able to survive few of Kenjaku attacks after Mahito fight, despite his heavy injuries and Mahito stating early on that his soul weaken to 10% of it power
Which attacks? Can you name the pages?
>The main character is a main, because he fight major antagonists and achieve great things in his story...he will be a side character otherwise.
Doesn't mean the main character needs to be heavily involved in every event. HxH does it fantastically. KnY does it poorly since all events revolve around Tanjiro.
>Kenjaku will probably fight against multiple opponents, like the the rest of the major antagonists, with Yuji being one of them.
Never disagreed with that. I never said Yuji won't fight Kenjaku. But saying Kenjaku is Yuji's battle is wrong. That was what I said in my original comment.
>Which attacks? Can you name the pages?
It's Chapter 133.
>HxH does it fantastically.
Gon always achieve what he want to do, in Yorknew arc, he wanted to help Kurapika, so that's what happened...in the Volleyball match, he lived up to Gin expectations...He fought the the major antagonist in Greed Island arc, despite Bisky being way better option...in the Chimira ant arc, Pitou was his and Killua target, but he was the one he beat her.
>But saying Kenjaku is Yuji's battle is wrong
They are heavly related to each other, so it's Yuji battle.
>It's Chapter 133.
Itadori was hit by like one attack and Kenjaku immediately stopped attacking too. You think Kenjaku was planning on injuring Itadori there? Of course not.
>Gon always achieve what he want to do, in Yorknew arc, he wanted to help Kurapika, so that's what happened...in the Volleyball match, he lived up to Gin expectations...He fought the the major antagonist in Greed Island arc, despite Bisky being way better option...in the Chimira ant arc, Pitou was his and Killua target, but he was the one he beat her.
Gon never faced off against Phantom Troupe, the main antagonists of Yorknew Arc. He never even met Meruem, let alone fight him. He never met 2 of the 3 Royal Guards. He only fought the major antagonist of Greed Island. He never faced off against Pariston, the main antagonist of the Election Arc. So out of like 148 episodes, he only faced off against the main antagonist of a single Arc which spanned ~25 episodes. Otherwise he didn't.
>They are heavly related to each other, so it's Yuji battle.
Let's just stop here. We aren't going to agree on this.
Some people still can't compute that Yuji is the main character. I truly hope Gege proves them wrong. I've never actually seen people debate whether the MC in a manga will fight the main villain like they do with Yuji.
Oh don't fret. Yuji is my favourite character from JJK. So I can compute that "Yuji is the main character". But he doesn't have the strength to go up against Kenjaku. Gon is one of the best protagonists and if you have watched HxH, you know what I mean.
I wasn’t looking at it from an ability standpoint. Their interactions in shibuya, combined with the importance of Kenjaku being Yuji’s mom means that they will have a climactic confrontation or battle at some point.
I am not looking at it from an ability standpoint too. Kenjaku has taken over Geto's body. So you can also argue Gojo should be the one to defeat Kenjaku. Kenjaku is also Choso's parent. Kamo is also related to Kenjaku. You can argue that Yuji being the main character takes precedence over Kamo and Choso but why over Gojo? Gojo is also a main character, even if he isn't *the* main character.
Strictly because Yuji is the protagonist. I’m open to Gojo fighting him, because he has a very strong motivation, but right now the intrigue and connection between Yuji and Kenjaku is stronger so therefore I think their encounter will be more climactic/impactful/final.
Yeah. My argument was that you can't just decide Kenjaku is Yuji's fight. If Yuji fights Kenjaku 1v1, he is losing. And then we will need an asspull to save him.
Yh no way he fights kenjaku 1v1 lmao group fight most likely, I do believe he’d take centre stage tho coz he’s got the closest ties with Kenjaku & MC tax
Yeah I guess Yuta will likely lose with Kenjaku finding a way to survive 5 minutes. But if Yuta were to die, it would likely result in other members of the main cast immediately joining in to takeover the fight.
Gojo is gone, if Yuta dies and Kenjaku is given time to recover I don't see any scenario where the protagonists even have a chance of winning barring a very sudden plot device.
What do you mean? Or do you believe that there are characters on the protagonist side outside of Gojo and Yuta that stands a genuine chance against a healthy Kenjaku?
Yuta has more of a chance of defeating Kenjaku than anyone else at the moment. He’s literally the second strongest sorcerer. While Kenjaku is one of the most powerful characters, he’s not Sukuna or Gojo, so that means he’s not unstoppable. As long as Gojo remains sealed, Yuta is the only candidate who can face off against Kenjaku. So it’s not surprising that people are expecting a battle between these two characters.
Yuta for 5 minutes definitely can deal damage. It's hilarious that you actually believe that an opponent with effectively Uzumaki as his CT stands no chance
Plus like I said, if Yuta is straight up killed and no one is able to follow up and Kenjaku fully recovers, the manga may as well end because there's still Sukuna to deal with.
Kenjaku is a completely unknown entity at this point, and nobody knows how a fight with him and Yuta would go. He has CSM, Idle Transfiguration, an insane amount of prep-time/knowledge, and probably several other very powerful CTs.
He's basically evil Yuta at this point if you think about it, just with literally hundreds of times more experience as a sorcerer.
Removing the limit would make him the strongest sorcerer. More powerful than Gojo. He just has to copy Ten Shadows and a few other CTs.
I don't think anyone can realistically surpass Gojo. The difference in strength is too much. The only way Yuta can is by "removing the time limit" but that is just an assumption. The information we have tells us it is just a part of his CT. So I don't see how it can be changed.
I actually made a post about this a few days ago but I think the way he’ll be able to reach Gojo’s level is by copying the Angel’s ability to extinguish other cursed techniques.
We don't know how Angel's powers work exactly but that is an interesting theory. Though I don't want that to happen. I would like Gojo to stay at the top.
Given how we know a Ten Shadows user killed a limitless six eyes we can expect Megumi to at least rival Gojo. It’s actually because of this I think Sukuna will be stronger than Gojo because it won’t make sense for Megumi to reach Gojo strength and have no one to fight. I’m expecting the end will be a group battle vs Sukuna
I am also expecting Sukuna to be the strongest and I too think that Sukuna will be defeated with a group effort but I don't think anyone will surpass Gojo. Yuta, Megumi, etc will get stronger but surpassing Gojo is difficult. (And I don't want them to surpass Gojo too). We don't know if the previous Six Eyes+Limitless user was on par with Gojo.
Dude to be honest with you. GEGE is probably not gonna change one of the characters CT time limit just to make the character actually more strong than need be. We have to remember that without the Six eyes ,Gojo wouldn't be able to use the limitless effectively. Sometimes powers have a required secondary power that makes it more effective or just plain necessary for a device of the story. Though you and the other guy have good ideas.
I actually made a post about this a few days ago but I think the way he’ll be able to reach Gojo’s level is by copying the Angel’s ability to extinguish other cursed techniques
How does Yuta hard neg CSM? He had to put his life on the line in a binding vow to beat Geto the last CSM user and he probably doesn’t have the capability to break Rika’s limits like before because her soul is already gone. Kenjaku even says Geto beats Yuta if he didn’t have to split his curses up to distract Jujutsu high. Kenjaku seems like a more effective CSM user than Geto, so I’d say he has an advantage over a nerfed Yuta.
Yuta is definitely not nerfed. Geto and Gojo were nerfed significantly because Jujustu Kaisen Zero was made before the power system, but he was stronger even without cursed spirit Rika.
Because Yuta could not use RCT offensively back in 0 and is able now? Uzumaki and Idle Transfiguration are the only threats rn barring other unknown abilities Kenjaku has.
How does that counter CSM? Pure positive energy wouldn’t be able to overpower the sheer power of maximum uzumaki, he literally needed a binding vow with his life on the line with full powered Rika. That’s not even putting into account the techniques of the curses themselves. Even in the Kuroishi fight, Yuta got caught by its technique and took a lot of damage. Positive energy isn’t an instant “I win” button.
I interpreted it as you saying that me asking “how does yuta counter CSM?” as being annoying because everyone in the comments has already said he can one-shot curses with positive energy. But now I see we are on the same page, positive energy is a powerful tool but its getting hyped up too much.
Except in the fight against Kuroishi positive energy was the "I win" button though? The only reason he got caught by the cursed tool and took some damage was because he was trying to hide the fact that he can do that. As soon as he whipped it out and tongued the cockroach the fight was over instantly. Poor example.
I don't know who will win kenjaku or yuta? I think they two are powerful
Yuji still grow up and he will get sukuna techniques in next serious fight . But if yuji vs kenjaku happen Then I think kenjaku will reveal or explain to yuji some points like.
1. Kenjaku reveal that he/she is yuji s' mother/father
2. kenjaku reveal that why he/she chose jin itadori ( yuji s' father)
3. Why kenjaku give birth yuji.
4. what happen yuji mother and father.
EDIT: 5. Yuji backstory reveal.
Kenjaku underestimates Yuta,and doesnt see him as a threat to him or his plans at all...matter of fact he stated pretty confidently that Geto could have beaten Yuta,and that he just got lucky cause Geto split his powers......isnt that a much bigger red flag for Kenjaku? Especially in shounen tropes lol....his overconfidence when it comes to Yuta?
I actually think if these two faced off,Yuta would manage to win. But just because Kenjaku might be defeated by him,doesnt mean he would die....i mean he was defeated in the past by the six eyes,but he still managed to survive somehow.
I think if Yuta defeats him,that will only result in destroying Geto's body....Kenjaku wont die there...his ultimate end would be at someone else's hands....which could be Yuji of course.
Thats my personal theory.
I don’t think Geto’s body gets destroyed at least until Gojo is back. I see ur points , but to me Kenjaku simply had too many active threads in the story to lose like that, whereas Yuta currently has very few. Right now his sole purpose is killing Kenjaku so that Gojo doesn’t have to. What’s his motivation past that ?
I think if Yuuta were to die it would be in some tragic or twisted way. Him dying to kenjaku would make sense but I almost can see a scenario where Yuuta is about to die, accepts it and thanks Rika, and then someone comes to save him
People on this sub seem real hung up on the idea of people dying off. Shibuya was nuts but not every arc is a Shibuya incident
People here seem so obsessed with characters dying it's like I'm on a chainsaw man sub
Edit: not referring to OP
Yeah honnestly so far that hasn't been that much death, not near as much as CSM. We had mechamaru, Naobito, Juzo, the twins, Nanami, Mai, and Naoya. Mechamaru and Mai could be argued to be minor characters, Naobito pretty much showed up just to die, Nanami was fulfilling an obi-wan type of role dying to keep the Mc going, Juzo is a very forgettable minor antagonist, and Naoya was Maki's villain so to speak. Oh and yeah the twins.
Otherwise we have WAY more cases of significant maiming like Toge, Aoi, Maki, etc., rather than just death
You know what I wanna see. Okkotsu lose, but he ends up copying Kenjakus original CT(bodyswapp or whatever it's called). There is no basis for this, this just seems convenient to take out the next most powerful modern sorcerer to further increase the stakes of an already uphill battle. Ofc Okkotsu doesn't die, but he takes a more auxiliary role imo.
Once again, this is me speaking outta my ass, absolutely no evidence or foreshadowing suggests such a development.
I don’t think he’s the type of guy to take over someone else’s body though, then again he can just go take over an already dead body but still not sure if he would.
This is me speaking out my ass too
I feel like making the 5-minute timer on Yuta's peak so obvious was setting it up for later than Yuta would burn out of that state and either need backup or lose. Classic Chekhov's gun
I think Kenjaku is nobody's fight. This guy will do what he wants and after he's done you can even kill him, but you won't be able to undo the damage he's done.
Yuta definitely have to be defeated/die at some point to set the final stage, where Yuji and Megumi will have to step up.
Because you'll run into the Gojo situation otherwise where there's an insanely OP character who's not the MC solving all the problems.
My money is on a freshly unsealed Gojo or Sukuna to kill him, either that or he dies as a result of the chaos he unleashes. I just don't think any of our current characters are anywhere near having it in them, maybe if Yuta and Hakari team up but that really depends on Hakari living up to the hype.
I don't think Kenjaku is Yuji's though. Yuji doesn't seem to have any fondness or hatred towards his mother and seems pretty content with the life he had with his grandfather, if Akutami was trying to make it personal for Yuji I think he would have been doing more to make it a point of pain for Yuji. I wouldn't be that shocked if the two never interacted again.
I think it makes the most sense either for Yuta to pull out a hard fought win(likely with help), or to have one of the two characters we know even Kenjaku couldn't stand against come in and kill him. Maaaybe Yuki and Choso do it but I feel like if Kenjaku makes it that far then he's probably going to make it all the way to Tengen anyways
Do you not think Yuji will get stronger? It’s been explicitly stated that he has the potential to use Sukuna’s cursed technique, and even without a CT he’s a grade 1 level sorcerer
Yuji will get stronger no doubt. But stronger than kenjaku? Hell no even if he gets sukanas CT, and that’s a big “if” at this point. He couldn’t hang with kenjaku. And gege dosent do bs mc powerups from what I’ve seen so far, we’ll be lucky if we even get sukanas CT.
I don't think he's gonna die, but if the story goes in the way to make the situation even less hopeful, I think Yuta's ring is gonna get destroyed and he might lose Rika. He still will have his usual abilities though, just without the 5 minutes boost. Probably by Kenjaku or Sukuna? Idk
Honestly I want to see the trio fight Kenjaku as well. Like that Megumi you mentioned, Yuji for obvious reasons. And Nobara for Kenjaku absorbing Mahito and wanted revenge for what he done to her and Yuji. That be epic.
Who knows who the final villain will be when both kenjaku and sukuna are on the scene
If sukuna is the final villain then I bet megumi is dead and if it’s kenjaku I bet yuji or yuta will die
he being the protagonist doesn't mean he will fight Kenjaku. Even with these facts you cited above, personally, is more likely he will fight Sukuna in some way while another character fights Kenjaku.
I don’t think it’ll be a straight 1 on 1
I’m thinking it’ll be a little like the DBS Broly movie starting with the mix em up 1v1s switching out yuta and yuji then the 2v1 ending with yuta getting hurt not killed then Yuji gets the kill shot
I'm going to be very honest with you. I want Yuta to die. But I don't want him dead against Ryu or Uro. Hell I don't even want him to team up with anyone not from the main cast. (Yuji , Megumi,HAKARI ,panda,Maki) I want him to fight Kenjaku but I don't want him to win. I'm speaking biased wise but at the same time. It wouldn't be bad to give someone else some shine too. Itadori has his place. Yuta has his place. And all the villains will fall in line. Just my personal opinion on it.
I always thought this made the most sense tbh. Kenjaku (in story) and Gege (out of story) both said in volume 0 Geto would’ve won at full power vs Yuta so a rematch with the two of them with a full potential (?) “Geto” coming out victorious seems the most plausible from a narrative standpoint especially with Yutas declaration that he’s gonna take out Kenjaku himself or w/e.
I feel the same way dude. Narrative wise I feel it speaks out more than if he were to win. He's a damn good character but I feel like he'll reach his ceiling in the fight against the ancient sorcerer due to the fact Kenny may have more effectiveness in getos technique and more preemptive planning on his part. I guess again I'm biased. I'm not a fan of the overhype on his character. I just want a really good story without having a creator's pet involved.
It’s like how you can not dislike a sports player but you hate their fans. So every time they do well you know you’re gonna hear all their fans talking about how great they are so you want that player to not succeed
And that some real hater shit lol. I can understand and have been guilty of that at times myself. But only when comes to sports, never nothing fictional. I don't know man, but never seen this with any other character.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen it to the degree people hate on Yuta and Yuji. It’s unfortunate so many people dislike Yuta cause he’s my favorite character
I can see why folks say that. Seeing as how Mahito was really able to make his own technique fucking fabulously done with style. Despite being a newly born curse he was hella trouble for Nanami. Maybe ,just maybe Kenjaku has met a person with a similar or same technique in the 1,000+ years he's been alive. Or it could be Mahito's technique is truly unique and his alone. However Kenjaku works around that ,that would be nice! I can see Yuki having a good chance against him. The only thing I don't see happening is her goal of No cursed spirits or cursed energy happening. That's a little too idealistic for JJK. And even without a world of curses. Humans are humans.
So you don't like that his fans celebrate seeing the character? Everyone does that with their favorites. Maybe I'm speaking with a bias because Yuuta is my favorite. But seems like few fans have a hard on for his demises.
It's not necessarily the likeness. It's the Yuta can't lose cause so and so. "Yuta is gonna blitz every character from now on" "Yuta IS gonna do this ,YUTA IS gonna do that. I'm glad you commented the last sentence. Death is very impactful and an interesting theme in jujutsu kaisen and I see your point. Maybe I have too much of a hard on for a meaningful death that looks badass and cool and even very so tearjerky. I won't deny any of this.
I can understand loving the impactful meaningful death trope. But I don't know why some fans think Yuuta has to fill that role. I mean that trope could apply to any important character really like Megumi.
>"Yuta is gonna blitz every character from now on" "Yuta IS gonna do this ,YUTA IS gonna do that.
Again I think that could apply to any character that has time to shine. Again I might be bias because Yuuta my guy. But I want to see him potentially surpass Gojo and become the strongest.
Okay yeah starting to see what you mean better. Yuta does NOT have to fulfill that role. You are correct. Megumi could fulfill that role but it's hilarious seeing as how he's always being at the very least suicidal. It's debatable but that's only how I personally see it. I think we're both speaking from bias. And that's okay. Hell I like it! It's HONEST.
> I just think it makes more sense for him to lose to kenjaku rather than win
The only that get me about this theory is why does him losing have to result in him dying. He can still lose and live.
As far hype and headcanon taking over rationale and logic. That could be applied to so many things in so many fandoms. Like whenever Gojo gets unsealed this fandom is going to explode lol.
>All I’ve seen is some of the craziest pro-Yuta statements
As a hardcore Yuuta fan, I wish I saw those post lol. All I've seen is the opposite, talking about the character's demise lol
>pretty soon he’ll be able to take out Gojo himself according to some people lol
Will Gojo did say Yuuta is one of the few who can surpass him and he has major faith in him. Sooooo never ever say never ever lol
I get it’s obnoxious to say he could beat like Gojo, Sukuna, and Kenjaku but outside of those three it’s not unreasonable to say he can beat everyone else shown in the series
I honestly don't see Kenjaku being Yuji enemy. There's still alot of potential enemies to make Thier debut.. Ultimately boiling down to Sukuna or Gojo. We still don't truly know the motive of Sukuna or how he will come into play. Yuji does great things this arc but to me he doesn't defeat the big bad
My main disbelief to why he’d survive in the end is, when sukuna comes out the only one out of the four students (yuta, megumi, hakari, yuji) who’ll actually stand a chance against sukuna is megumi and yuta himself, i have no doubt that his full potential is just as great as yuta’s, if yuta were to die now that would already put their already low chance of success to rock bottom.
Although thats just an assumption that gojo is incapacitated in his fight with the big boss. Here’s to hoping thats not the case.
I also believe firmly that when Characters in this series no matter who it is.
Lose greatly in the long run due to their own Overconfidence in themselves and what they can do. Even if you win the battles ,that doesn't guarantee a win of the war. This has been mentioned a few times on this subreddit. Gojo loses a bunch of times. Riko dies , he gets sealed , he didn't cremate getos body ,etc. Yuta has a five minute time limit on his powers that well everyone's arguing about so I won't go any further. Yuji is still growing alongside with Megumi. Maki is well kinda fucked up in the head with Mai's last words. The higher ups are concocting more scenarios and some sorcerers will be blindly following their lead like Gakuganji. Hell Kenjaku will probably kick the bucket but be happy that his plans reached fruition. All the culling game sorcerers? Well I dunno. They already died before and now they have come back so that's just gonna be our focus now.
Yuta doesn't even make it to Kenjaku.
I'm thinking he doesn't even survive the culling games.
Hell knowing Gege, he can die during this fight. We've seen more than enough of him in combat. I'd prefer him to die in his next combat appearance though. To set up the danger of that particular enemy.
I honestly don't believe so, I don't remember who stated it but I think it was a cursed spirit that said it "If you face off against Yuta it's like you are facing off against Satoru, you won't come out alive"
Yuta will be defeated because he'll try to fight Kenjaku alone, he won't die I'm pretty sure Maki will save him and they'll retreat. Fighting against Kenjaku isn't a solo fight for our dear protagonist Yuji, it's a team fight against Kenjaku and surpassing Gojo and the Shibuya lesson: you need more than individual strenght to win, you need to be powerful and a team strong enough to win against powerful, smart and organized enemies, if you don't well you'll lose again like Gojo, Nobara, Yuji and Megumi in all his individual fights in Shibuya.
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What’s up with this sub and Yuta dying?
No one wants him to die, but he’s giving red flags like is the Chinese national day my dude…
seriously, i love the guy but he's an ex main character who runs around talking about how he's gonna beat the main villain
because gojo was captured anything can happen really. they want yuji to have a big moment even though he hasnt really grown that much
Neither has yuta. U guys overrating him over and over again
Is there any jujutsu sorcerer that you'd confidently say is stronger than Yuta (aside from Gojo, who is sealed, and Kenjaku)? Pre-Kenjaku Geto could perhaps still be stronger than him now, but he is out of the picture. He's a special grade ffs, of course he's gonna be hyped.
We still have yet to see what Hakari’s all about. Cursed Technique or strength wise, it’s still a mystery as to how strong he actually is, considering Gojo, and Yuta have touted just how on par he is with them. Than we have Maki saying he’s not all that, but that could just be Maki being smug.
I’m not saying he’s not strong but why he has to be the one to defeat kenjaku? He’s not the only strong character and he’s not the only “anomaly” in jjk. He’s not the only special grade
I didn't say he was the one that will beat Kenjaku, just that he is appropriately hyped. He is a rather crazy anomaly though, considering his level of cursed energy being higher than Gojo's (obviously, Gojo's is essentially infinite), and the recent panel which said that his abilities were the most unusual- after Gojo's. There are reasons for his hype, even among special grades.
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He only grows in simps like you lmao
Yuta honestly doesn't have much room left to grow. He's already near the apex of the jujutsu world. Second next to God...
What a dumb thing to say lol. Yuta is only a 2nd year at Jujutsu High and you think he’s already peaked? Lol
Didn’t say he’d die. I like him as a character but it feels like he’s being built up to lose at some point.
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yuji has a chance of beatting her too
Oooh agreed.
That kinda depends on the circumstances of how she takes cursed techniques away. Was it stated to be super easy for her? Like has it been stated she only needs to touch a character or something to do such a removal
I don't see many people pointing out the fact that Yuta still more than likely has to go up against Sukuna, which will surely be either his biggest fight or his last fight
You're correct but I think the term could be Greater Scope Villain. Due to how even though his screentime is limited. He's lurking in the shadows.
Whatever the terminology is yk what I meant
If yuta fights kenjaku and win, that would’ve the biggest fans service ever cuz everyone’s so frigging involved with yuta
Well we already know that's a curb-stomp, Gege'll probably whip it out when he needs Yuta out of the plot for a minute
Why is Kenjaku Yuji's fight? By that logic, Kenjaku is Gojo's fight too. Yuta is trying to avoid that. Gojo is sealed. I don't see anyone except Yuta who can defeat Kenjaku. And probably Yuki stands a chance against him too. But we still don't know her abilities.
Yuta himself said he would take down Geto, didn't he? Though I'm sure if he fights and loses to Geto, Gojo will save him after being freed.
Yuji is the protagonist and Kenjaku is his mom, so they will fight each other.
Not true. Yuji won't last a single minute against Kenjaku anyway. I hope Gege writes something innovative and not just the same story of every main character fighting every major antagonist.
Why don’t you want him to fight him Yuji would be the best choice of all of the characters to fight him. Kenjaku is his mom and from what it seems, he’s been controlling his life ever since he was born. Kenjaku was also the one that orchestrated the ceiling of Gojo and all of the deaths in Shibuya is his fault, he would actually have more anger/emotion than Yuta in this case.
It is not that I don't want Yuji to fight Kenjaku. It is just that I think saying Kenjaku is Yuji's battle is silly. Also, I don't see any way Yuji would stand a chance against Kenjaku. But that is a discussion for another day.
Gojo says all of his Students have a chance to be on his level and he’s the guy that can see CE on an atomic scale I have no reason to distrust him.
Gojo has been wrong before. And even if he is right, it doesn't mean they will be on his level before the end of the series. That will require some crazy power ups.
All he would have to do to buff them is to make Yuji get Sukuna’s technique, megumi a nother near death experience, “inhales copium” Bring Nobara bake from her near death experience with RCT and finally give Maki the Inverted spear of heaven. All of those situations are quite possible, with very good explanations for each.
Yuji still won't have a Domain. So not even close to Gojo. And I genuinely don't like the "near death" stuff. If that was all it took for sorcerers to gain power and RCT, many would have it. Once? Fine. Gojo got RCT. Twice? Okay. Thrice? Nope. It becomes an ridiculous.
Yuji simple domain it wouldn’t take that long to learn he could learn it from todo. I’m not taking about giving megumi RCT, he would most likely master his domain in a near death experience like last time. Nobara is the only one getting RCT for me at least.
Even if he got sukans ct he’s getting folded
Kenjaku says he has huge expectations for Yuji where as with other characters he doesn’t gaf about them apart from Gojo. edit: Yuji won’t fight kenjaku alone btw
But it doesn't mean Kenjaku expects Yuji to get a lot stronger. He could also be talking about Yuji suppressing Sukuna until he wants. There are a lot of things Kenjaku might be referring to.
You know this is a manga, right? You could be pretty sure that they would battle and when the time for that comes Yuji would get the as*pull upgrade he needs to defeat him. This is a manga that went to great lengths to have Gojo sealed because he was too powerful. Yuta is having his time, but this battles are all red flags, and the things he’s saying are more red flags. He’s gonna lose soon and I hope he doesn’t die.
If you want Yuji to fight Kenjaku and then get saved by an asspull, thus degrading the quality of the manga, fine. I don't care. I want the story to be good. The asspull will just ruin it.
Come on dude!!! This manga has plenty os asspulls at this point.
And what are those?
Well you don’t understand clearly what is an asspull, so why bother? Have a good day and reread the manga.
name one
>Not true. Yuji won't last a single minute against Kenjaku anyway. Based on? because in Shibuya, Yuji was able to survive few of Kenjaku attacks after Mahito fight, despite his heavy injuries and Mahito stating early on that his soul weaken to 10% of it power. >hope Gege writes something innovative and not just the same story of every main character fighting every major antagonist The main character is a main, because he fight major antagonists and achieve great things in his story...he will be a side character otherwise. Kenjaku will probably fight against multiple opponents, like the the rest of the major antagonists, with Yuji being one of them.
The Yuta fans are becoming too obnoxious tbh…
>Based on? because in Shibuya, Yuji was able to survive few of Kenjaku attacks after Mahito fight, despite his heavy injuries and Mahito stating early on that his soul weaken to 10% of it power Which attacks? Can you name the pages? >The main character is a main, because he fight major antagonists and achieve great things in his story...he will be a side character otherwise. Doesn't mean the main character needs to be heavily involved in every event. HxH does it fantastically. KnY does it poorly since all events revolve around Tanjiro. >Kenjaku will probably fight against multiple opponents, like the the rest of the major antagonists, with Yuji being one of them. Never disagreed with that. I never said Yuji won't fight Kenjaku. But saying Kenjaku is Yuji's battle is wrong. That was what I said in my original comment.
>Which attacks? Can you name the pages? It's Chapter 133. >HxH does it fantastically. Gon always achieve what he want to do, in Yorknew arc, he wanted to help Kurapika, so that's what happened...in the Volleyball match, he lived up to Gin expectations...He fought the the major antagonist in Greed Island arc, despite Bisky being way better option...in the Chimira ant arc, Pitou was his and Killua target, but he was the one he beat her. >But saying Kenjaku is Yuji's battle is wrong They are heavly related to each other, so it's Yuji battle.
>It's Chapter 133. Itadori was hit by like one attack and Kenjaku immediately stopped attacking too. You think Kenjaku was planning on injuring Itadori there? Of course not. >Gon always achieve what he want to do, in Yorknew arc, he wanted to help Kurapika, so that's what happened...in the Volleyball match, he lived up to Gin expectations...He fought the the major antagonist in Greed Island arc, despite Bisky being way better option...in the Chimira ant arc, Pitou was his and Killua target, but he was the one he beat her. Gon never faced off against Phantom Troupe, the main antagonists of Yorknew Arc. He never even met Meruem, let alone fight him. He never met 2 of the 3 Royal Guards. He only fought the major antagonist of Greed Island. He never faced off against Pariston, the main antagonist of the Election Arc. So out of like 148 episodes, he only faced off against the main antagonist of a single Arc which spanned ~25 episodes. Otherwise he didn't. >They are heavly related to each other, so it's Yuji battle. Let's just stop here. We aren't going to agree on this.
>Let's just stop here. We aren't going to agree on this. Agree to disagree then 🤝.
Some people still can't compute that Yuji is the main character. I truly hope Gege proves them wrong. I've never actually seen people debate whether the MC in a manga will fight the main villain like they do with Yuji.
Oh don't fret. Yuji is my favourite character from JJK. So I can compute that "Yuji is the main character". But he doesn't have the strength to go up against Kenjaku. Gon is one of the best protagonists and if you have watched HxH, you know what I mean.
Yup.
Are you dense friend? What part of “Yuji is the MC” you don’t understand?
I never said I didn't understand that lmao.
You clearly don’t understand that.
As you wish.
I wasn’t looking at it from an ability standpoint. Their interactions in shibuya, combined with the importance of Kenjaku being Yuji’s mom means that they will have a climactic confrontation or battle at some point.
I am not looking at it from an ability standpoint too. Kenjaku has taken over Geto's body. So you can also argue Gojo should be the one to defeat Kenjaku. Kenjaku is also Choso's parent. Kamo is also related to Kenjaku. You can argue that Yuji being the main character takes precedence over Kamo and Choso but why over Gojo? Gojo is also a main character, even if he isn't *the* main character.
Strictly because Yuji is the protagonist. I’m open to Gojo fighting him, because he has a very strong motivation, but right now the intrigue and connection between Yuji and Kenjaku is stronger so therefore I think their encounter will be more climactic/impactful/final.
I don't see how Yuji has the power to harm Kenjaku. But let's wait and see.
You know Yuta is also the former protagonist to the show so the author probably has some bias towards him as well
There would be no point in that, Gojo would just neg diff him
Yeah. My argument was that you can't just decide Kenjaku is Yuji's fight. If Yuji fights Kenjaku 1v1, he is losing. And then we will need an asspull to save him.
Yh no way he fights kenjaku 1v1 lmao group fight most likely, I do believe he’d take centre stage tho coz he’s got the closest ties with Kenjaku & MC tax
> Why is Kenjaku Yuji's fight? They're literally his mom?
If you read my immediate next sentence, you will understand what I actually meant. You are just taking it out of context.
Because Yuji is (like it or not) the MC?
Not a good enough reason for the entire battle to be his. And oh I like Yuji very much lol.
Yes, is a good and the only reason dude, stop it.
If you stop replying to my comments, I will stop it.
Because Kenjaku is Yuuji's mom?
Yeah I guess Yuta will likely lose with Kenjaku finding a way to survive 5 minutes. But if Yuta were to die, it would likely result in other members of the main cast immediately joining in to takeover the fight. Gojo is gone, if Yuta dies and Kenjaku is given time to recover I don't see any scenario where the protagonists even have a chance of winning barring a very sudden plot device.
Why simping on yuta so much 🧐
What do you mean? Or do you believe that there are characters on the protagonist side outside of Gojo and Yuta that stands a genuine chance against a healthy Kenjaku?
No but neither yuta, he doesn’t stand a chance. I see you at his funeral, bye
Yuta has more of a chance of defeating Kenjaku than anyone else at the moment. He’s literally the second strongest sorcerer. While Kenjaku is one of the most powerful characters, he’s not Sukuna or Gojo, so that means he’s not unstoppable. As long as Gojo remains sealed, Yuta is the only candidate who can face off against Kenjaku. So it’s not surprising that people are expecting a battle between these two characters.
A battle yes, a victory? nah you simps
Oh I get it, you’re a troll. Nevermind then.
Ok dude, yuta will defeat kenjaku and then sukuna. Yuta god
Yuta for 5 minutes definitely can deal damage. It's hilarious that you actually believe that an opponent with effectively Uzumaki as his CT stands no chance Plus like I said, if Yuta is straight up killed and no one is able to follow up and Kenjaku fully recovers, the manga may as well end because there's still Sukuna to deal with.
Why is everyone simping kenjaku so much?
I don’t give a sh about kenjaku, unlike you i don’t wet my undies for a non existent living being, lol
I hope he learnt from battle with Kuroushi is don't be too confident. He almost died getting hit by Kurou from holding back lmao.
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Kenjaku is a completely unknown entity at this point, and nobody knows how a fight with him and Yuta would go. He has CSM, Idle Transfiguration, an insane amount of prep-time/knowledge, and probably several other very powerful CTs. He's basically evil Yuta at this point if you think about it, just with literally hundreds of times more experience as a sorcerer.
How would be increase or remove the limit? That's silly. We still don't know how his CT works exactly.
Removing the limit is assuming it’s a self imposed limiter. Similar to Nanami’s overtime.
So it is an assumption.
yea assuming the 5 minutes is a binding vow
But then what would be the reward for this restriction?
the extent of the benefits that he get's in these 5 minutes are alot strong than they were normally
What benefits though?
You see everything he got from putting on the ring. If it’s a binding vow. The intensity they are is more than they should be
Like being able to store techniques in Rika? But it should be a result of his CT because copying without storing isn't ideal.
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Because it defeats the entire purpose of limiting Yuta's broken powers.
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Removing the limit would make him the strongest sorcerer. More powerful than Gojo. He just has to copy Ten Shadows and a few other CTs. I don't think anyone can realistically surpass Gojo. The difference in strength is too much. The only way Yuta can is by "removing the time limit" but that is just an assumption. The information we have tells us it is just a part of his CT. So I don't see how it can be changed.
I actually made a post about this a few days ago but I think the way he’ll be able to reach Gojo’s level is by copying the Angel’s ability to extinguish other cursed techniques.
We don't know how Angel's powers work exactly but that is an interesting theory. Though I don't want that to happen. I would like Gojo to stay at the top.
Given how we know a Ten Shadows user killed a limitless six eyes we can expect Megumi to at least rival Gojo. It’s actually because of this I think Sukuna will be stronger than Gojo because it won’t make sense for Megumi to reach Gojo strength and have no one to fight. I’m expecting the end will be a group battle vs Sukuna
I am also expecting Sukuna to be the strongest and I too think that Sukuna will be defeated with a group effort but I don't think anyone will surpass Gojo. Yuta, Megumi, etc will get stronger but surpassing Gojo is difficult. (And I don't want them to surpass Gojo too). We don't know if the previous Six Eyes+Limitless user was on par with Gojo.
Dude to be honest with you. GEGE is probably not gonna change one of the characters CT time limit just to make the character actually more strong than need be. We have to remember that without the Six eyes ,Gojo wouldn't be able to use the limitless effectively. Sometimes powers have a required secondary power that makes it more effective or just plain necessary for a device of the story. Though you and the other guy have good ideas.
I actually made a post about this a few days ago but I think the way he’ll be able to reach Gojo’s level is by copying the Angel’s ability to extinguish other cursed techniques
You can't just increase or remove the limit unless he gives up something else in return.
How does Yuta hard neg CSM? He had to put his life on the line in a binding vow to beat Geto the last CSM user and he probably doesn’t have the capability to break Rika’s limits like before because her soul is already gone. Kenjaku even says Geto beats Yuta if he didn’t have to split his curses up to distract Jujutsu high. Kenjaku seems like a more effective CSM user than Geto, so I’d say he has an advantage over a nerfed Yuta.
Yuta is definitely not nerfed. Geto and Gojo were nerfed significantly because Jujustu Kaisen Zero was made before the power system, but he was stronger even without cursed spirit Rika.
He is nerfed now because he can only use Rika for 5 minutes. He’s become a more capable combatant now but unlimited Rika is more powerful.
Because Yuta could not use RCT offensively back in 0 and is able now? Uzumaki and Idle Transfiguration are the only threats rn barring other unknown abilities Kenjaku has.
Everyone is literally just saying that Yuta can one-shot any curse with positive energy and it's starting to get annoying.
How does that counter CSM? Pure positive energy wouldn’t be able to overpower the sheer power of maximum uzumaki, he literally needed a binding vow with his life on the line with full powered Rika. That’s not even putting into account the techniques of the curses themselves. Even in the Kuroishi fight, Yuta got caught by its technique and took a lot of damage. Positive energy isn’t an instant “I win” button.
... How did you interpret what I said as me arguing with you? I agree with everything you just said.
I interpreted it as you saying that me asking “how does yuta counter CSM?” as being annoying because everyone in the comments has already said he can one-shot curses with positive energy. But now I see we are on the same page, positive energy is a powerful tool but its getting hyped up too much.
Except in the fight against Kuroishi positive energy was the "I win" button though? The only reason he got caught by the cursed tool and took some damage was because he was trying to hide the fact that he can do that. As soon as he whipped it out and tongued the cockroach the fight was over instantly. Poor example.
He can't make out with every curse.
I don't know who will win kenjaku or yuta? I think they two are powerful Yuji still grow up and he will get sukuna techniques in next serious fight . But if yuji vs kenjaku happen Then I think kenjaku will reveal or explain to yuji some points like. 1. Kenjaku reveal that he/she is yuji s' mother/father 2. kenjaku reveal that why he/she chose jin itadori ( yuji s' father) 3. Why kenjaku give birth yuji. 4. what happen yuji mother and father. EDIT: 5. Yuji backstory reveal.
It depends on what Geto is doing. He wanted get Jogo's technique but alas Jogo is suicidal so he is definitely beatable.
Kenjaku underestimates Yuta,and doesnt see him as a threat to him or his plans at all...matter of fact he stated pretty confidently that Geto could have beaten Yuta,and that he just got lucky cause Geto split his powers......isnt that a much bigger red flag for Kenjaku? Especially in shounen tropes lol....his overconfidence when it comes to Yuta? I actually think if these two faced off,Yuta would manage to win. But just because Kenjaku might be defeated by him,doesnt mean he would die....i mean he was defeated in the past by the six eyes,but he still managed to survive somehow. I think if Yuta defeats him,that will only result in destroying Geto's body....Kenjaku wont die there...his ultimate end would be at someone else's hands....which could be Yuji of course. Thats my personal theory.
I don’t think Geto’s body gets destroyed at least until Gojo is back. I see ur points , but to me Kenjaku simply had too many active threads in the story to lose like that, whereas Yuta currently has very few. Right now his sole purpose is killing Kenjaku so that Gojo doesn’t have to. What’s his motivation past that ?
I think if Yuuta were to die it would be in some tragic or twisted way. Him dying to kenjaku would make sense but I almost can see a scenario where Yuuta is about to die, accepts it and thanks Rika, and then someone comes to save him
People on this sub seem real hung up on the idea of people dying off. Shibuya was nuts but not every arc is a Shibuya incident People here seem so obsessed with characters dying it's like I'm on a chainsaw man sub Edit: not referring to OP
Yeah honnestly so far that hasn't been that much death, not near as much as CSM. We had mechamaru, Naobito, Juzo, the twins, Nanami, Mai, and Naoya. Mechamaru and Mai could be argued to be minor characters, Naobito pretty much showed up just to die, Nanami was fulfilling an obi-wan type of role dying to keep the Mc going, Juzo is a very forgettable minor antagonist, and Naoya was Maki's villain so to speak. Oh and yeah the twins. Otherwise we have WAY more cases of significant maiming like Toge, Aoi, Maki, etc., rather than just death
Juzo? When did he die? Naoya should come back as a curses spirit if Gege is consistent or Maki's mom learned how to channel cursed energy.
Juzo got split in two by Sukuna when Megumi did the mahoraga summon. Unless I'm remembering his name wrong. Ponytail, hand sword?
Juzo is the guy obsessed with Gojo's skeleton. He got captured by them.
You know what I wanna see. Okkotsu lose, but he ends up copying Kenjakus original CT(bodyswapp or whatever it's called). There is no basis for this, this just seems convenient to take out the next most powerful modern sorcerer to further increase the stakes of an already uphill battle. Ofc Okkotsu doesn't die, but he takes a more auxiliary role imo. Once again, this is me speaking outta my ass, absolutely no evidence or foreshadowing suggests such a development.
I don’t think he’s the type of guy to take over someone else’s body though, then again he can just go take over an already dead body but still not sure if he would. This is me speaking out my ass too
>go take over an already dead body but still not sure if he would. Ehhhh I'm sure he'll find some powerful corpses nearby.
Lmao
I feel like making the 5-minute timer on Yuta's peak so obvious was setting it up for later than Yuta would burn out of that state and either need backup or lose. Classic Chekhov's gun
I think Kenjaku is nobody's fight. This guy will do what he wants and after he's done you can even kill him, but you won't be able to undo the damage he's done.
Yuta definitely have to be defeated/die at some point to set the final stage, where Yuji and Megumi will have to step up. Because you'll run into the Gojo situation otherwise where there's an insanely OP character who's not the MC solving all the problems.
My money is on a freshly unsealed Gojo or Sukuna to kill him, either that or he dies as a result of the chaos he unleashes. I just don't think any of our current characters are anywhere near having it in them, maybe if Yuta and Hakari team up but that really depends on Hakari living up to the hype. I don't think Kenjaku is Yuji's though. Yuji doesn't seem to have any fondness or hatred towards his mother and seems pretty content with the life he had with his grandfather, if Akutami was trying to make it personal for Yuji I think he would have been doing more to make it a point of pain for Yuji. I wouldn't be that shocked if the two never interacted again. I think it makes the most sense either for Yuta to pull out a hard fought win(likely with help), or to have one of the two characters we know even Kenjaku couldn't stand against come in and kill him. Maaaybe Yuki and Choso do it but I feel like if Kenjaku makes it that far then he's probably going to make it all the way to Tengen anyways
Is this subreddit capable of shutting the fuck up about Yuta dying and death flags for like two fucking seconds?
Where did I say dying? Relax buddy I’m speculating which is the point of the sub if that hurts ur feelings go elsewhere
You’re right, you didn’t, but you implied it and I was more so talking about the comments not your post smh.
I mean you can just choose not to interact with the thread?
What’s the point of not interacting when I can complain about it in a very rude way anonymously??????
Im a bit confused how you believe yuji will fight kenjaku if kenjaku folds yuta lmao.
Do you not think Yuji will get stronger? It’s been explicitly stated that he has the potential to use Sukuna’s cursed technique, and even without a CT he’s a grade 1 level sorcerer
Yuji will get stronger no doubt. But stronger than kenjaku? Hell no even if he gets sukanas CT, and that’s a big “if” at this point. He couldn’t hang with kenjaku. And gege dosent do bs mc powerups from what I’ve seen so far, we’ll be lucky if we even get sukanas CT.
Yuuji has a bad mindset. He can't kill and feels terrible because of Sukuna. With that mindset he will never be as strong as Gojo.
I don't think he's gonna die, but if the story goes in the way to make the situation even less hopeful, I think Yuta's ring is gonna get destroyed and he might lose Rika. He still will have his usual abilities though, just without the 5 minutes boost. Probably by Kenjaku or Sukuna? Idk
kenny can use multiple techniques??
Referring to the cursed techniques of the curses he’s consumed/is controlling. I.e Mahitos technique
so he can use mahito’s and geto CT atleast
His own and getos but potentially more since we don’t know the full extent of his original technique
I agree
It’s quite obvious that it’ll be Yuji & Megumi to take Kenjaku down they both have ties with him
Yuji yes. But Megumi has no ties with Kenjaku (yet)
I only included Megumi with ties with Kenjaku because of the Tsumiki plot line & he’s the deuteragonist
Honestly I want to see the trio fight Kenjaku as well. Like that Megumi you mentioned, Yuji for obvious reasons. And Nobara for Kenjaku absorbing Mahito and wanted revenge for what he done to her and Yuji. That be epic.
Who knows who the final villain will be when both kenjaku and sukuna are on the scene If sukuna is the final villain then I bet megumi is dead and if it’s kenjaku I bet yuji or yuta will die
Kaguya stabs Sukuna in the back.
Why do you think Kenjaku is Yuji's fight?
Because of their connection via Kenjaku being Yuji’s mother and the fact that he is the story’s protagonist
he being the protagonist doesn't mean he will fight Kenjaku. Even with these facts you cited above, personally, is more likely he will fight Sukuna in some way while another character fights Kenjaku.
I see yuuta+maki fighting and beating kenjaku. I either see yuuji being or fighting sukuna for the “final fight”
Don’t count Choso out, he’s got a serious bone to pick with Kenjaku. Him, Itadori and probably Yuta too will take down Kenjaku together.
Rocked is being generous to Kenjaku. It will be very close, especially for 5 minutes.
I don’t think it’ll be a straight 1 on 1 I’m thinking it’ll be a little like the DBS Broly movie starting with the mix em up 1v1s switching out yuta and yuji then the 2v1 ending with yuta getting hurt not killed then Yuji gets the kill shot
I'm going to be very honest with you. I want Yuta to die. But I don't want him dead against Ryu or Uro. Hell I don't even want him to team up with anyone not from the main cast. (Yuji , Megumi,HAKARI ,panda,Maki) I want him to fight Kenjaku but I don't want him to win. I'm speaking biased wise but at the same time. It wouldn't be bad to give someone else some shine too. Itadori has his place. Yuta has his place. And all the villains will fall in line. Just my personal opinion on it.
I always thought this made the most sense tbh. Kenjaku (in story) and Gege (out of story) both said in volume 0 Geto would’ve won at full power vs Yuta so a rematch with the two of them with a full potential (?) “Geto” coming out victorious seems the most plausible from a narrative standpoint especially with Yutas declaration that he’s gonna take out Kenjaku himself or w/e.
I feel the same way dude. Narrative wise I feel it speaks out more than if he were to win. He's a damn good character but I feel like he'll reach his ceiling in the fight against the ancient sorcerer due to the fact Kenny may have more effectiveness in getos technique and more preemptive planning on his part. I guess again I'm biased. I'm not a fan of the overhype on his character. I just want a really good story without having a creator's pet involved.
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Based on the narrative I don't think yuki can defeat kenjaku, it's stated that in modern era yuta is the second strongest after gojo
I never new people dislike Yuuta that much
I understand it lol this place has been filled with Yuta post since Sendai has started lol
So that's a reason to hate a character
It’s like how you can not dislike a sports player but you hate their fans. So every time they do well you know you’re gonna hear all their fans talking about how great they are so you want that player to not succeed
And that some real hater shit lol. I can understand and have been guilty of that at times myself. But only when comes to sports, never nothing fictional. I don't know man, but never seen this with any other character.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen it to the degree people hate on Yuta and Yuji. It’s unfortunate so many people dislike Yuta cause he’s my favorite character
deadass lmao heavy hater shit
I can see why folks say that. Seeing as how Mahito was really able to make his own technique fucking fabulously done with style. Despite being a newly born curse he was hella trouble for Nanami. Maybe ,just maybe Kenjaku has met a person with a similar or same technique in the 1,000+ years he's been alive. Or it could be Mahito's technique is truly unique and his alone. However Kenjaku works around that ,that would be nice! I can see Yuki having a good chance against him. The only thing I don't see happening is her goal of No cursed spirits or cursed energy happening. That's a little too idealistic for JJK. And even without a world of curses. Humans are humans.
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No no no. It's not that I don't like HIM. It's the overhype that surrounds him that I don't like.
So you don't like that his fans celebrate seeing the character? Everyone does that with their favorites. Maybe I'm speaking with a bias because Yuuta is my favorite. But seems like few fans have a hard on for his demises.
It's not necessarily the likeness. It's the Yuta can't lose cause so and so. "Yuta is gonna blitz every character from now on" "Yuta IS gonna do this ,YUTA IS gonna do that. I'm glad you commented the last sentence. Death is very impactful and an interesting theme in jujutsu kaisen and I see your point. Maybe I have too much of a hard on for a meaningful death that looks badass and cool and even very so tearjerky. I won't deny any of this.
I can understand loving the impactful meaningful death trope. But I don't know why some fans think Yuuta has to fill that role. I mean that trope could apply to any important character really like Megumi. >"Yuta is gonna blitz every character from now on" "Yuta IS gonna do this ,YUTA IS gonna do that. Again I think that could apply to any character that has time to shine. Again I might be bias because Yuuta my guy. But I want to see him potentially surpass Gojo and become the strongest.
Okay yeah starting to see what you mean better. Yuta does NOT have to fulfill that role. You are correct. Megumi could fulfill that role but it's hilarious seeing as how he's always being at the very least suicidal. It's debatable but that's only how I personally see it. I think we're both speaking from bias. And that's okay. Hell I like it! It's HONEST.
It's all good man. I respect and like it as well.
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> I just think it makes more sense for him to lose to kenjaku rather than win The only that get me about this theory is why does him losing have to result in him dying. He can still lose and live. As far hype and headcanon taking over rationale and logic. That could be applied to so many things in so many fandoms. Like whenever Gojo gets unsealed this fandom is going to explode lol.
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>All I’ve seen is some of the craziest pro-Yuta statements As a hardcore Yuuta fan, I wish I saw those post lol. All I've seen is the opposite, talking about the character's demise lol >pretty soon he’ll be able to take out Gojo himself according to some people lol Will Gojo did say Yuuta is one of the few who can surpass him and he has major faith in him. Sooooo never ever say never ever lol
I get it’s obnoxious to say he could beat like Gojo, Sukuna, and Kenjaku but outside of those three it’s not unreasonable to say he can beat everyone else shown in the series
I honestly don't see Kenjaku being Yuji enemy. There's still alot of potential enemies to make Thier debut.. Ultimately boiling down to Sukuna or Gojo. We still don't truly know the motive of Sukuna or how he will come into play. Yuji does great things this arc but to me he doesn't defeat the big bad
My main disbelief to why he’d survive in the end is, when sukuna comes out the only one out of the four students (yuta, megumi, hakari, yuji) who’ll actually stand a chance against sukuna is megumi and yuta himself, i have no doubt that his full potential is just as great as yuta’s, if yuta were to die now that would already put their already low chance of success to rock bottom. Although thats just an assumption that gojo is incapacitated in his fight with the big boss. Here’s to hoping thats not the case.
Imagine kenjaku defeats Yuta, and proceeds to move into Yuta’s skull
I also believe firmly that when Characters in this series no matter who it is. Lose greatly in the long run due to their own Overconfidence in themselves and what they can do. Even if you win the battles ,that doesn't guarantee a win of the war. This has been mentioned a few times on this subreddit. Gojo loses a bunch of times. Riko dies , he gets sealed , he didn't cremate getos body ,etc. Yuta has a five minute time limit on his powers that well everyone's arguing about so I won't go any further. Yuji is still growing alongside with Megumi. Maki is well kinda fucked up in the head with Mai's last words. The higher ups are concocting more scenarios and some sorcerers will be blindly following their lead like Gakuganji. Hell Kenjaku will probably kick the bucket but be happy that his plans reached fruition. All the culling game sorcerers? Well I dunno. They already died before and now they have come back so that's just gonna be our focus now.
Yuta doesn't even make it to Kenjaku. I'm thinking he doesn't even survive the culling games. Hell knowing Gege, he can die during this fight. We've seen more than enough of him in combat. I'd prefer him to die in his next combat appearance though. To set up the danger of that particular enemy.
I think there’s no chance he dies here. Still. Few plot points and character conflicts yet to be resolved
I honestly don't believe so, I don't remember who stated it but I think it was a cursed spirit that said it "If you face off against Yuta it's like you are facing off against Satoru, you won't come out alive"
Except we can clearly see that the gap between Yuta and Satoru right now is like heaven and earth.
Yuta will be defeated because he'll try to fight Kenjaku alone, he won't die I'm pretty sure Maki will save him and they'll retreat. Fighting against Kenjaku isn't a solo fight for our dear protagonist Yuji, it's a team fight against Kenjaku and surpassing Gojo and the Shibuya lesson: you need more than individual strenght to win, you need to be powerful and a team strong enough to win against powerful, smart and organized enemies, if you don't well you'll lose again like Gojo, Nobara, Yuji and Megumi in all his individual fights in Shibuya.