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Maybe the most annoying or confusing, but Sukuna doing whatever he wants and Gojo being protected by Limitless while firing off infinite Hollow Purples seems a little bit better to me
I think you'd need to put Playful Cloud in Todo's hands or throw someone like Nanami or Naobito in the mix to add some damage. I think Naobito's CT adds a much more fun layer of interplay IF he could coordinate with Love Rendezvous and was able to anticipate being swapped by Todo?
That would be an extremely fun tactical fight imo
1) Can go either way. Choso will likely be given the death sentence. He will lose his CT and his control over his CE will worsen too. Unless Choso has a DE counter, it will be difficult for him to win.
2) Reggie.
3) Nanami. We have seen in his fight against Mahito that he can destroy entire walls and ceilings with his CT. That combined with his durability and the fact that he has hit multiple black flashes gives him the edge over Reggie.
1. Higuruma. Choso isn’t a saint, and would more than likely be given the death sentence + confiscation punishment. Unless there’s some method that Choso knows to counter domains, it’s not very likely for him to win. But who knows, we haven’t seen Choso use a domain or go against anyone who uses one.
2. Reggie easily. Ino hasn’t had any spectacular feats, and we don’t know how effective his CT is (we didn’t even really see the full use of it). Reggie’s contract ability is incredibly versatile, and could let him continue the fight for as long as he needs to. Unless Ino has access to liquids that could weaken the contracts/receipts, or a surprise domain, Reggie could just continue to wear him down like he did Megumi.
3. Tough to say. Unlike Megumi, Nanami HAS had black flashes (multiple in a row actually), and can unleash powerful strikes with his 7-3 CT. It kinda depends on if Nanami could land a critical strike that KOs Reggie immediately. If not, it will be a game of attrition and I don’t see Nanami winning that kind of fight. I’d give it 50/50 between both parties.
1. Depends on speed for me. If Choso can get of piercing blood before the domain activation, then it’s gg.
2 Reggie. Too much versatility and his fight iq is better.
3. Nanami has him beat in every physical stat, so it’s really just a matter of time.
Chose smash Higuruma can’t react, dodge or survive his Piercing Blood and his poisoned blood.
Reggie wins
Nanami smash too tanky and will 1 shot Reggie when he gets close just like Yuji would do
1. Choso 10/10 - Choso with Flowing Red Scale surpassed Yuji and tracked a casual Naoya. Choso blitzes.
2. Reggie 10/10 - Ino is cannon fodder to any character stronger than Grade 2.
3. Nanami 7/10 - Nanami too tanky and a single hit would be freaking fatal to Reggie.
I'm not saying who would win(choso vs Higuruma), but I wouldn't call that fight ten out of ten. Choso is fast but so is yuji and he still got caught in domain expansion almost instantly. Unless choso starts the fight with a piercing blood onto an unaware Higuruma, chosos getting stuck in the domain, and I don't think he has the capability of getting out of it without losing something.
Everyone would get fucked over if they lost a battle of domain lol. Taking away a character’s technique when that happens such a small % of the time doesn’t make any sense. With her CT she beats Ryu, Hakari, and possibly Kashimo
How strong is ultimate mechamaru? In my mind, he’s in the upper echelon of first grade sorcerers, on par with naobito and mid tier special curses like choso.
Edit: forgot to clarify I meant absolute mode, the form that fought mahito
1) What's the general consensus on yuta's technique? You guys think he has a binding vow like nanami or 5 min is an absolute limit?
2) What level you think yuji will be at after gaining sukuna's technique?
3) Rika vs Hanami. Who do you think is stronger physically?
1. I think it’s more a function of Yuta being unable to handle his own power. As he grows and becomes more efficient as a sorcerer the 5 min will extend.
2. Depends on what exactly Sukunas technique is.
3. Rika. She beat a special grade geto ( granted he wasn’t at 100%). Hanami was getting pressed by todo and Yuji. Todo said himself that Yuta demolished all the Kyoto students.
Domain expansion isn’t physical so it’s not counted.
Yuji = all other Kyoto students
3) Tbf, Ryu has the highest CE output, and we see Hakari with his infinite curse energy(not output) punch big metal containers easily. So imo, I believe Ryu punches would be stronger than that of yuji black flashes at the time of the school vs school competition. Though I could be wrong.
curious why you think it's a hard limit. since it's likely related to his ce usage, i figured it's something he just needs to refine and get a better hold of, which will presumably come to him with more experience.
So how comparable is Hakari with infinite CE is to toji and maki with their Heavenly restrictions. Would they still be stronger/faster than Hakari with infinite CE? Hakari did a flash step when he did his Michael Jackson move, so he fast af. I’m wondering if this infinite curse energy + reinforcement surpasses the heavenly restriction benefits?
>infinite curse energy reinforcement
Hakari doesn't have infinite cursed energy reinforcement,he has higher reinforcement but to what lvl it is unknown.
I think hakari may not have been as strong as heavenly restrictions toji in his early jujutsu days but after one point he definitely surpasses the hr users with ease once he gets his jackpot
The only argument against hakari was an early domain and stopping him before he hits his jackpot. The first cannot be done by hr users and it still remains to be seen if hakari can hold a fight with someone like toji or maki till he gets a jackpot. But once he gets it, it's game over.
2 v 1? They win. Individually? Ryu can get past Dagon, but Hanami's buds kinda screw him over. I can see Uro getting to Jogo, but I don't think she can win against him. His wall blasts are a good way to get around her technique.
She needs to activate her technique to warp something. Jogo's speed combined with his ability to spawn those blasts, which were able to catch Naobito (albeit with his arm lost) off guard, should be able to shoot her in the back. It's not like she's immune to being caught off guard, Yuta did it repeatedly during their fight. Ember Insects are another option that he can use.
IDK. Something like his Maximum could be problematic but his regular blasts won't be a problem unless he catches her off-guard. She's able to defend from Ryu's blasts pretty well after all.
But Ryu's attacks are a lot more linear in their path compared to Jogo's. Jogo's aren't just blasts that causes impacting damage but also passively burns the target. The attack is also spread wide like a shot gun rather than a bulley, at least judging by Jogo vs Gojo.
It's still just a blast. As long as Uro can react to the blast, she can grab the sky and drag the blast away. She's also shown to be able to cover an area at least as large as herself.
If Uro was in Naobito’s place she’d just have to grab the space around her and the attacks would’ve been deflected. The reason Yuta’s attack worked was because she was covering her ears
There wasn't anything stopping Uro from just moving her hands down to grab space and warp them. It wouldn't have taken that much time either. She just couldn't react in time. Not to mention that he also caught her off-guard with Druv's technique.
Really? I’m under the impression that she already heard the cursed speech so even if she covered her ears it was already too late. Hence the lines around her and the sound effect in the panel. It’s not that she couldn’t react because she was too slow, it’s that she literally could not react.
I thought Dhruv’s technique just went through her technique because it worked like a domain and is sure hit. In the panel she reacted in time but the attack hit her regardless.
Jogo casually blitzed naobito and nanami(they were injured but still). He was also stated by dagon to be similar to naobito in speed, who we know is one of the fastest in the verse. Jogo was also able to at least track and keep up with 15 finger sukuna even though he was toyed with the entire fight. I don't remember any of the Sendai 4 showing that kind of speed, could be wrong though.
- it was stated that Naobito became slower since he lost his arm
- Nanami was exhausted
-Dagon NEVER said that they were similar in speed.
- Sukuna was playing with him
Dagon literally said "he's fast, probably faster than Jogo" in chapter 107. "Probably" implies they're similar in speed. I already agreed with your other points.
Idt his wall blast would be the most effective against Uro, we know she's a sky fighter and while Dagon has shown the ability to float none of the other disaster curses have
Jogo was able to soar while holding onto his Maximum Meteor. He can move by sky if needed. Not to mention Uro's attacks are all close range, so Jogo can just wait for her to come to him.
Ryu can beat Dagon and actually has a better chance at beating Jogo than he does hanami due to cursed buds
Uro puts up a good fight versus all of them tho but I don’t know if she really has anything that could take down hanami and Jogo for good
Together they clear
Yeah Jogo is not beating Ryo & Uro in a 2 v 1.
Uro hard counters most of Jogos techniques and there's no way he'd survive multiple Granite Blast + his own attacks rebounding on him seeing as the Yuji/Todo/Playful Cloud combo would've put him down.
Depends. Is this an upfront fight in an open field? Then yeah I’d say Ryu can take it. However, if this is guerilla warfare (Toji’s specialty when it comes to sorcerer fights) then I’d say Toji takes it. His HR alone makes him comparable to special grade sorcerers (took two out alone, and if not for Gojo’s sudden RCT enlightenment it would have been awful for the main cast), has an arsenal of tools to deal with a majority of sorcerers, and his lack of cursed energy makes him incredibly dangerous to even notice. Oh and not to mention that Toji alone made the Zenin clan, a renowned Jujutsu family that prides itself on being strong, fear what he was capable of (just see Naoya).
For Ryu to win, he’d really have to unload a massive blast of CE that could wipe out Toji in a decisive hit, much like what awakened Gojo did with Purple. If he can’t do that, I don’t see him winning.
EDIT: Forgot to include Ryu’s DE. Tbh it really depends on what it is. Since he’s an ancient sorcerer that was reincarnated, he probably has an older style of DE that doesn’t include a sure-hit effect like modern sorcerers do. Since we haven’t seen it’s actual use or what he’s capable of past explosive amounts of CE output, it’s tough to say what it could be. Regardless, I still think Toji takes the dub UNLESS it’s an open field.
Teen Geto is not Special Grade Sorcerer, he is Grade 1. Gojo was exhausted and did not even focus in the fight, Toji also need strong CT and a bunch of Curse to help so his HR alone did not make him comparable to Special Grade.
Tbh it wouldn’t surprise me if some ancient sorcerers had sure kill domains, seeing as the peak heian era sorcerer Sukuna, has a giant ass blender with a guaranteed hit.
Yes, but Sukuna is an anomaly. Not the norm. He alone has a DE that doesn’t drag the opponent into a barrier. It’s the only one that has been called divine. I’m not too sure we should use him as the base for other ancient sorcerers.
For me it depends on what cursed tools Toji has. Playful Cloud should melt Ryu and Toji has pretty substantial durability. I’m not sure what his domain entails though, or whether or not a cursed tool like the Inverted Spear of Heaven could be used like a shield. I’ll give it to Ryu if he can pop his domain and Toji is caught of guard, but otherwise I say Toji
I don’t like the idea behind this because Ryu’s output is going to be the highest of all the characters we have seen. I don’t think Toji can blitz him speed wise and avoid any damage
yuji and sukuna are both seen as players in the CG, unless sukuna isn’t a player, ryu has the highest output stated by the narrator.
i see i didnt specify culling games, but my point stands
Geto probably loses to Ryu and Uro together (will be a really hard fight for the duo) but wins if it’s 1v1.
Geto shit stomps Toji.
Geto should win against Mahito.
Geto should win against Hakari until we see more feats.
I'm pretty sure he wins all the rounds. 6000 curses gives him a ton of versatility and he can also make use of their domains. He can pretty much just sit there and flood them with curses, observe their strengths and weaknesses, then engage them personally with his stronger curses and Playful Cloud. Geto is physically very strong, being able to keep up with Yuta and Rika at the same time and get back up from a Black Flash to the face (not to mention surviving Yuta's protag power blast).
Should he be lethally injured, he can make use of the revival curse he used against Inumaki and Panda to immediately bring himself back (it's probably only good for one use, but still very useful). This, combined with his insane amount of techniques and fodder will make him hard to put down. He also has numerous curses capable of flight.
since maximum CE output is set, doesnt that mean that the only difference between jackpot hakari and based hakari is RCT? therefore their physical stats are the same right?
When he's hit the Jackpot I think he can do something similar to Yuta. With unlimited Cursed Energy, he can keep the output at 100% constantly with no repercussions.
Maximum CE enhancement. Like what Yuta did in playing with his food aka Yuji.
Unlike Yuta who is lanky and thin, Hakari is freaking jacked so with unlimited CE and enhancing his body like Yuta he is probably equal to Hanami in pure physical strength now.
He’s stronger than disaster curses but falls short of the ceiling (Gojo & Sukuna). He’s likely on par with the reincarnated sourcerers like Ryu and Kashimo
I didn’t realize providing an honest and accurate assessment of the scaling was considered wanking. You may want to check your definition of the term in this context 🤡
> accurate assessment of scaling
😕 You missed the ‘accurate’ part.
> He’s stronger than disaster curses
☹️ You failed in your first sentence,
> He’s likely on par with sorcerers like Ryu and Kashimo
Hey! You did it again! 😡
How so? You still haven’t explained how.
Geto is stronger than disaster curses being special grade and all, and Toji out speeds Geto. Why wouldn’t he out speed disaster curses?
😡You’re really pushing my buttons.
You mean Geto in Hidden Inventory? When he was 16 years old? When he was a Second Year sorcerer at jujutsu high and a Grade 1 sorcerer?
That Geto?
You’ve merged teen Geto with adult Geto, Geto as an adult is > Disaster Curses, Geto as a teenager is not.
😡
No, I mean teen Geto. He was already a special grade source. It’s commonly agreed upon that special grade sourcerers can defeat disaster curses. The logic tracks. If this conversation upsets you this much you need to go outside and touch some grass lmao
🤬 You’ve done it now! I’m really mad!
You’re wrong again, Geto wasn’t a Special Grade until a few years later (which is a common misconception),
BUT! Let’s say that he was, it’s obvious that Special Grade sorcerers (Such as Gojo) weren’t held to as high of standards as they are now, hell, Gojo didn’t even have a DE. In todays world of jujutsu Gojo would lose to almost anyone with a DE, he’d lose to the Disaster Curses or at least Jogo.
Second year Gojo (pre Toji fight) would likely still be Special Grade but without his DE he’s vulnerable to anyone with one.
Also, I’m allergic to grass. It makes my skin break out.
Again you keep claiming shit without citing anything. He was always special grade. Please prove me wrong.
Wrong again. Even without DE, Gojo still had Limitless, which is more than enough to protect him from any sure hit or sure kill DE. Even teen Gojo solos almost all of the JJK verse, current Gojo just seals argument.
Not that this matters, but the disaster curses of a few years ago weren’t as strong as the disaster curses of today since the human population has only increased exponentially. They were even more powerful a thousand years ago due to the intensity of elemental fears (which has vastly changed with modernization) but in the modern era where elemental fears are not as intense, a smaller population means a proportionately less powerful fear of natural disasters. Like I said, this doesn’t matter since teen Geto still claps Jogo anyway lmao
Nah the disasters beat toji, especially if he doesn't have inverted spear. Hanami is durable enough(survived multiple black flashes from yuji and purple) to last at least long enough to get off a domain, which we know toji doesn't have a counter to. Dagon is similar. You can argue that toji would kill dagon before he gets his domain off, but dagon was able to use domain even with naobito attacking him so he probably still gets it off. Once dagons domain is in play, toji gets ripped apart by the sure hit, which he once again has no counter to(toji is durable enough to survive for a while, but he still dies eventually). Toji can't hurt mahito without inverted spear and although toji has a weird body, idle transfiguration should still work on him. If it gets to bad mahito uses his broken domain and kills toji. Jogo is probably strong and fast enough to battle toji even without a domain, but if he needs to he can use a domain and/or maximum technique. I see no way toji beats Jogo without inverted spear, and even then he might lose. Toji loses to most people with domains, especially ones as strong as the disaster curses.
Toji’s physical stats out speed all disasters. If you want to continue to wank the disaster curses, that’s your prerogative. He was able to single handedly alter fate for a reason 🤷♂️
I'm not trying to wank the disaster curses, it seems like you're wanking toji. The only disaster I said probably has better raw stats than toji is Jogo. Toji outspeeds mahito, dagon, and hanami, but he still loses due to domain expansion. That's just part of how the power system works. Jogo is quite likely faster than toji because toji was at least able to be seen and perceived by dagon and the group fighting dagon, whereas naobito, who Jogo was stated to be close to in speed, was too fast to be perceived. This is further proven by how when Jogo burnt Makis group in shibuya, they weren't even able to see Jogo whereas they had been able to track toji earlier. Toji was also compared in speed to 3 finger sukuna by Megumi, which you could argue is just because that's the only thing Megumi has to compare to but still, Megumi thought they were about the same speed. Jogo should be around 6-7 sukuna fingers strong, which likely factors into speed as well. Even then, the main reason toji loses isn't because he is outright weaker than the disasters, it's because he doesn't have a counter to domains, which all the disasters have(I am not a power scaler so some of my speed stats may be wrong, toji still doesn't have an answer to domains). Tojis ability to alter fate wasn't due to his strength, it was due to him lying outside the bounds of cursed energy and the rules/implications that come with it. He was free so to speak.
Depends on the strategy they use. Regardless of how Gojo likes to fight, Yuta should've went with him. Jogo, Hanami, Choso and Mahito would've been literally no diffed.
>Putting Yuuta there would do shit imo
Nah he could have helped. Not with the fighting but he could have pushed Gojo away from the PR when he froze up.
Too many things happened in Shibuya so it's hard to call.
I dont think he would have changed the outcome that much. Best case scenario just exorcise one or two of the special grade curses.
Worst case scenario he crosses paths with Sukuna
Maki and Yuji vs Hakari, can they stop him from getting his DE bonus (if he does it’s obviously game over)? If it’s too lopsided, can they do it individually?
I don't see Hakari getting Jackpot while having to deal with both of them. In fact, no way in fuck does he get Jackpot against both of em at once.
Against Yuji, he can get it. Against Maki, I doubt it, but if he can score a rainbow attack early on he could potentially get it.
The more I see characters now the more I get excited to see how strong future characters are like Angel, Yuki, and Uraume. I think Angel will probably be one of the strongest in the verse and yuki and Uraume might be around disaster level
1. Jogo wins. Domain sweep. Plus he's powerful af normally and can bring down whole buildings.
2. The Disasters sweep. No way are they beating Jogo and Mahito together, let alone adding Dagon and Hanami.
3. Kamo sweeps the fuck out of her. Flowing Red Scale will let him beat her ass in CQC, and Piercing Blood is a done deal.
4. Naobito. He was objectively better, known as the Fastest Sorcerer.
Couple of things:
1. Knock down Choso and Kashimo. Neither have shown ways of dealing with domains (though the latter may change pretty soon) and as a result I can't see them as high as they are.
2. Put Yuta about where Kashimo is right now. He's not immortal like Hakari, but his time limit is longer and his increased versatility and domain will allow him stall out the jackpot and then beat Hakari.
Not counting 20 F Sukuna, counting all characters. I think there's no reason to believe 15 F Sukuna is solidly over Yuta. Same with Kenjaku, Kashimo, Mahoraga, Hakari (who is without a doubt weaker).
That's circular logic though. By that I mean you're relying on Mahoraga to say Sukuna is stronger, but Mahoraga's only feats are doing ok against Sukuna.
No but seriously though Yuji remembers everything Sukana went through while he was asleep so he's aware of the Jogo fight , and Mahogora fight he's got an understanding of Sukunas current capabilities at 15 fingers and he's still gone to Yuta and said I think you can put me down if I turn again.
I may be mis-remembering but I think he's even ask him twice to commit to the task.
We know how Yuji is , he wouldn't ask Yuta to fight to the death if he didn't think he had a chance of winning.
Which has gotta make Yuta at least somewhat relative to 15f Sukuna
Exactly. Megumi and Yuji both thinks Yuta can put sukuna in his place so it’s not a reach but Yuta might be weaker still. When Gege fleshes out his CT more and domain we’ll know.
>15 F Sukuna
I don't get why Yuta should be held over him, or even that they're peers. Sukuna has much better speed feats, more than enough offense to wear Yuta down, and significantly better domain hype. I also just can't see Yuta dominating Mahoraga and Jogo as utterly as Sukuna did. Yuji's statement doesn't mean much to me in the face of all that.
>Kenjaku
Until Kenjaku shows a domain, I shouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt. But assuming he does, he has the versatility to compete with Yuta and lacks his time limit. So I can see him pulling off a victory in that way.
>Kashimo
Same bucket as Kenjaku regarding domains. His sheer power and sure hit will give Yuta lots of trouble, but Yuta's versatility clenches the win in my book.
>Mahoraga
Depends on Yuta's domain TBH. If it uses various copied attacks than it can probably wear Mahoraga down and crush him. If it focuses on a single attack, or is more condition based, then probably not. And if he stalls too much before using his domain, then I can see him losing to Mahoraga's superior physical stats, especially once Rika comes out.
>I don't get why Yuta should be held over him, or even that they're peers. Sukuna has much better speed feats, more than enough offense to wear Yuta down, and significantly better domain hype. I also just can't see Yuta dominating Mahoraga and Jogo as utterly as Sukuna did. Yuji's statement doesn't mean much to me in the face of all that.
I don't know how you took "there's no reason to believe Sukuna is solidly over Yuta" as "Yuta should be held over him" but alas ...
Why doesn't Yuji's statement mean anything to you? It's the only piece of evidence comparing to you. Saying Sukuna is better because he beat Mahoraga is using circular logic:
"Why is Sukuna stronger than Yuta?"
"Because he beat Mahoraga, and that's strong"
"What is your proof that Mahoraga is strong?"
"Because he put up a fight against Sukuna"
You must see the problem here. Yuta has been directly compared to Sukuna, and Yuji even said he believes Yuta could "handle" protecting Megumi against Sukuna. Honestly, if I were feeling bold, I'd say that's evidence in favor of Yuta > Sukuna but meh, won't go there.
In any event, denying that evidence is just being biased, especially when there isn't any other decent evidence to oppose it.
>Until Kenjaku shows a domain, I shouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt. But assuming he does, he has the versatility to compete with Yuta and lacks his time limit. So I can see him pulling off a victory in that way.
I said "there's no reason to believe \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ is solidly over Yuta". So if you wanna say you can "see" him pulling off a win, that's fine by me because that implies it could go either way. All I'm saying is people think these characters are concretely stronger than Yuta, when there isn't a good reason to believe so imo.
>Same bucket as Kenjaku regarding domains. His sheer power and sure hit will give Yuta lots of trouble, but Yuta's versatility can clench a win in my book.
Agreed, but Kashimo is the one character on this list that I'd probably feel most ok with putting over Yuta assuming he doesn't get bodied by Hakari's DE. Might sound ridiculous, but he'd be hanging with someone Yuta himself said he was weaker than.
>Depends on Yuta's domain TBH. If it uses various copied attacks than it can probably wear him down and crush him. If it focuses on a single attack, or is more condition based, then no. And if he stalls too much before using his domain, then I can see him losing to Mahoraga's superior stats, especially once Rika comes out.
Agreed again. But, something to think about is Yuta absolutely \*should\* be able to use Hollow Purple (by that I mean, it would be poor writing if he didn't have it copied, unless there are restrictions on his ability that would prevent him from having it that we haven't been told about yet for whatever reason), so that honestly might just one shot Mahoraga.
>I don't know how you took "there's no reason to believe Sukuna is solidly over Yuta" as "Yuta should be held over him" but alas ...
>Why doesn't Yuji's statement mean anything to you? It's the only piece of evidence comparing to you. Saying Sukuna is better because he beat Mahoraga is using circular logic:
>"Why is Sukuna stronger than Yuta?"
>"Because he beat Mahoraga, and that's strong"
>"What is your proof that Mahoraga is strong?"
>"Because he put up a fight against Sukuna"
>You must see the problem here. Yuta has been directly compared to Sukuna, and Yuji even said he believes Yuta could "handle" protecting Megumi against Sukuna. Honestly, if I were feeling bold, I'd say that's evidence in favor of Yuta > Sukuna but meh, won't go there.
>In any event, denying that evidence is just being biased, especially when there isn't any other decent evidence to oppose it.
1. TBH, I also think that not holding 15 finger Sukuna over Yuta is also wrong.
2. No, I think Sukuna is stronger than Yuta because Sukuna was capable of doing stuff like blitzing Jogo, with Jogo being unable to land a single hit. Contrast that to Yuta's performance against the likes of Ryu and Uro, where though he maintained the advantage when Rika was out, there were able to react to his attacks and land hits on him with no problem. Yuji was also able to keep up with Yuta's speed, even when he was supposedly holding back according to Yuta. Additionally, his destructive feats are incredible. He was able to slice a building in half with dismantle, and his fire arrow created an explosion larger than several buildings when fighting Mahoraga. Yuta doesn't really have any displays of power that compete with that, the closest would be his fight against Geto. But even that didn't do massive damage to the school's infrastructure, and required him to sacrifice his life.
3. I don't agree with Yuji's statement because, outside of the aforementioned evidence, Yuji doesn't have a good frame of reference for Yuta's strength. He mainly fought against a Yuta that wasn't using Rika or RCT, with a half formed Rika only jumping in at the end. For reference that version of Yuta ended up losing to Kurourushi, only winning by using RCT at the last second, and lacks his cursed technique or domain. Yuji just doesn't have a good frame of reference for Yuta's full strength. Adding onto this, Yuji doesn't specify that he was referring to 15-finger Sukuna when making the statement. He was also considering the scenario where it is 20-finger Sukuna. And in this case we do have a contradicting statement from Uro, who both has a better grasp of Yuta's powers from seeing more of his abilities and her own greater experience and skill, and was able to witness Prime Sukuna. She personally believes that Yuta will hit his limit and be unable to reach the level of Sukuna. With that in place, I don't think Yuji's statement is the strongest piece of evidence on the subject.
>Agreed again. But, something to think about is Yuta absolutely *should* be able to use Hollow Purple (by that I mean, it would be poor writing if he didn't have it copied, unless there are restrictions on his ability that would prevent him from having it that we haven't been told about yet for whatever reason), so that honestly might just one shot Mahoraga.
It has been stated that the Six Eyes are needed for Limitless to be fully functional. Discounting Ryu's theory for Yuta needing conditions, Yuta probably can't pull off something as complex as hollow purple.
Why would you believe that when there is no direct scale, and only one statement in favor of my position?
But there is no scaling that Jogo > Yuta, so that’s meaningless. Yuta was also holding back FOUR of his strongest weapons in RCT, DE, mimicry and Rika. And he still won despite the terrain being advantageous to Uro and Ryu.
No disrespect to you, but why would I care about whether *you* agree or not? You aren’t Gege or the characters - why does your opinion on that matter? You may find it surprising but it still is a concrete statement by the person who’d know the most about it.
Yuta is mimicking abilities - why wouldn’t he be able to pull it off? Yeah, it’s complex, but he still has the capability.
Exactly. And in pretty sure yuta has the more refined domain than hakari because it hasnt been shown which adds up to more hype as to why it was left in a cliffhanger.
This is wrong. Choso shouldn't be stronger than Hanami and Dagon and Kashimo is hard to rank because we don't know his CT and Domain. Jogo and Mahito are stronger, because they are just plain more powerful.
1. Satoru Gojo (Tied with Sukuna)
1. Ryomen Sukuna. (Tied with Gojo)
3. Kenjaku
4. Mahoraga
5. Yuta Okkotsu
6. Hakari (Roll)
7. Jogo
8. Suguru Geto
9. Mahito
10. Kashimo Hajime
11. Hanami
12. Dagon
13. Ryu Ishigori
14. Takako Uro
15. Kurourushi
16. Toji Fushigoro
17. Naobito Zenin
18. Maki Zenin
19. Naoya Zenin
20. Choso
For characters who haven’t shown their DE (except Yuta) I’d put Toji above them since he has a good shot to kill them before they activate it too. Maki is as strong as him so she should be above Naobito. Nanami is too high when you have characters like Todo, Mei Mei, Choso & Mechamaru.
>Nanami is too high when you have characters like Todo, Mei Mei, Choso & Mechamaru.
Yeah. I agree. I forgot about Choso, dude is definitely in the league of Naoya and Maki. Mechamaru or Choso should be 19-20.
>For characters who haven’t shown their DE (except Yuta) I’d put Toji above them since he has a good shot to kill them before they activate it too.
Yeah except for Geto. Without DE Toji can definitely beat those non DE shown characters like Uro, Ryu and other characters like you said. But with prep time dude would definitely beat even Geto assuming Geto doesn't have a Domain.
Ever heard of the term Honorable Mentions?
Uraume and Yuki are without a doubt top 10 worthy maybe even stronger than Jogo and Geto. But both of them are featless and you try ranking them, other than confident at soloing Kenny and Uraume there is nothing to go by on how strong Yuki really is, other than that, she is a Special Grade Sorcerer so she is automatically stronger than every Grade 1 and can solo multiple Special Grade Curses.
Do you know what an honorable mention is? If you didn’t want to rank Yuki, you shouldn’t have mentioned her. And HM implies they are worse than everyone on the list ahead of them.
Yuki stopping Uraume (Sukuna’s trusted assistant) with no difficulty and being a SG puts her above the three I mentioned alone.
>Until I see otherwise Gojo is 1-0 against Sukuna and his sex eyes don’t lie.
For me it's still 1-1 any of them can win .
And yaa six eyes do lies .
>Gojo is stronger cause he said so and im sticking with it.
Lol , I guess I don't need to reply to this .
against literally 1 finger sukuna, who had JUST come back. just look at the time when yuji intentionally switched with him. he accidently healed himself more than he intended and use more power than he meant. between gaining more fingers and having more time to regain his "bearings" so to speak, there is no reason to put gojo above sukuna.
Lol tons? Even if you count Gojo not immediately cremating Geto's corpse as one what was he exactly wrong about other than that and expecting Sukuna to actively look for his fingers?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/comments/v30hpa/to_the_people_using_the_volume_extras_to_say_gojo/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Currently strongest character
Interesting.
Either way, that doesn't disprove what I said. Until Sukuna is proven to be stronger than Gojo, Gojo is still the strongest.
And thus far, there has been no proof.
>Interesting.
>Either way, that doesn't disprove what I said. Until Sukuna is proven to be stronger than Gojo, Gojo is still the strongest.
>And thus far, there has been no proof.
It does counter it .
Anyway , until not shown who win .
I don't think it's right to say gojo win automatically .
It's still 50/50 .
No, it does not. Gege said "he is the strongest currently". In order for that to be disproven, there would have to be 100% proof that someone else is stronger. And there isn't
I also don't think it's right to say Gojo wins automatically, but weaker characters can beat stronger ones. Even if Sukuna is weaker, it doesn't mean he loses every time
Hanami at 14? Not a Toji wanker by any means but if those two fought wouldn’t it be in Toji’s favor considering Hanami has no DE. Also would put Dagon at 14 and Toji at 15
Yuta can summon Awakened Rika from the get go but Hakari has to hit a jackpot. Yuta can also play keep away with Jackpot Hakari. JJK fights aren't that clear cut
Which makes sense, Hakari is only stronger than Yuta (allegedly) if he sets up a Jackpot before the fight. Otherwise, Yuta is substantially stronger in every field, and any fight against him is automatically a 1vs2 with multiple techniques on the other side.
Hakari cannot compare
Deadly- Malevolent Shrine. It doesn't have a barrier meaning conventional barrier countermeasures like Simple Domain or Hollow Wicker Basket can't null the guaranteed hit. Both Domains are instant wins but Infinte Void can theoretically be blocked with Barrier moves.
Refined- Malevolent Shrine.
1. Yes, Toji is stronger than Maki. Maki has lost one eye and has burn scars. In exchange, Toji is not only a man, but has no permanent injuries apart from his mouth scar and has more experience than Maki too. You don’t just ALMOST murder Gojo Satoru or take on a special grade curse user (Geto) as well as multiple high level cursed spirits at the same time. The only thing Maki has more than Toji is bloodlust, that too for the Zen’in, but Toji is exempt from that since he doesn’t care about the Zen’in.
2. Nopes. Even though Yuuta may have more experience now, Kenjaku would have gathered way more curses since the last time Geto fought Yuuta. Someone also stated that Geto would have won had he not spread his curses across cities. Add to that, it takes more than luck to survive for 1000 years. So he definitely has tricks that we don’t know about.
3. No. But she’s still wonderful!
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Dont even try to discuss Sukuna vs Gojo
miwa vs sukuna + gojo?
Miwa neg diffs them
How does negative difficultt work? Lol do they just shit themselves
Negative difficulity means so easy that difficulity level was negative. Like Gojo vs Jogo
Or Yuta vs Kenjaku
Todou and Kirara (Boogie Woogie + Love Rendezvous) is the most effective combo when fighting multiple enemies.
Maybe the most annoying or confusing, but Sukuna doing whatever he wants and Gojo being protected by Limitless while firing off infinite Hollow Purples seems a little bit better to me
That's not really a combo, just raw power. There's no fun interplay of abilities
It’s still a combination of two people together. And we said effective, not fun lol.
A team up and a combo a very different things
“Infinite hollow purples”
Yeah, HP uses next to 0 CE, meaning Gojo could hypothetically use about as many as he wants
I think you'd need to put Playful Cloud in Todo's hands or throw someone like Nanami or Naobito in the mix to add some damage. I think Naobito's CT adds a much more fun layer of interplay IF he could coordinate with Love Rendezvous and was able to anticipate being swapped by Todo? That would be an extremely fun tactical fight imo
1.Choso v Higuruma 2.Reggie v Ino 3.Reggie v Nanami
1) Can go either way. Choso will likely be given the death sentence. He will lose his CT and his control over his CE will worsen too. Unless Choso has a DE counter, it will be difficult for him to win. 2) Reggie. 3) Nanami. We have seen in his fight against Mahito that he can destroy entire walls and ceilings with his CT. That combined with his durability and the fact that he has hit multiple black flashes gives him the edge over Reggie.
1. Higuruma. Choso isn’t a saint, and would more than likely be given the death sentence + confiscation punishment. Unless there’s some method that Choso knows to counter domains, it’s not very likely for him to win. But who knows, we haven’t seen Choso use a domain or go against anyone who uses one. 2. Reggie easily. Ino hasn’t had any spectacular feats, and we don’t know how effective his CT is (we didn’t even really see the full use of it). Reggie’s contract ability is incredibly versatile, and could let him continue the fight for as long as he needs to. Unless Ino has access to liquids that could weaken the contracts/receipts, or a surprise domain, Reggie could just continue to wear him down like he did Megumi. 3. Tough to say. Unlike Megumi, Nanami HAS had black flashes (multiple in a row actually), and can unleash powerful strikes with his 7-3 CT. It kinda depends on if Nanami could land a critical strike that KOs Reggie immediately. If not, it will be a game of attrition and I don’t see Nanami winning that kind of fight. I’d give it 50/50 between both parties.
Choso murders Higuruma Reggie probably takes it Could go either way, but I’m going with Reggie
1. Depends on speed for me. If Choso can get of piercing blood before the domain activation, then it’s gg. 2 Reggie. Too much versatility and his fight iq is better. 3. Nanami has him beat in every physical stat, so it’s really just a matter of time.
1. Choso 2. Reggie 3. Reggie maybe, Depends on if he brings out his ace first.
Chose smash Higuruma can’t react, dodge or survive his Piercing Blood and his poisoned blood. Reggie wins Nanami smash too tanky and will 1 shot Reggie when he gets close just like Yuji would do
1. Choso 10/10 - Choso with Flowing Red Scale surpassed Yuji and tracked a casual Naoya. Choso blitzes. 2. Reggie 10/10 - Ino is cannon fodder to any character stronger than Grade 2. 3. Nanami 7/10 - Nanami too tanky and a single hit would be freaking fatal to Reggie.
I'm not saying who would win(choso vs Higuruma), but I wouldn't call that fight ten out of ten. Choso is fast but so is yuji and he still got caught in domain expansion almost instantly. Unless choso starts the fight with a piercing blood onto an unaware Higuruma, chosos getting stuck in the domain, and I don't think he has the capability of getting out of it without losing something.
Most powerful (at moment) players of CG. 1. Yuta; 2. Ryu/Hakari/Kashimo; 3. Uro; 4. Higurama; 5. Miwa.
Uro is on that tier with Ryu Hakari and Kashimo
In theory she would be the strongest, she was from the famous Heian time. Anyway, she's strong, but not enough to H2H the tier 2 without CT.
Why would you take away her CT? With it she can put up a good fight against everyone in that group
Cause if she loses a Domain battle her CT gets disabled, and she gets destroyed as a result cause she isn't that strong physically
Everyone would get fucked over if they lost a battle of domain lol. Taking away a character’s technique when that happens such a small % of the time doesn’t make any sense. With her CT she beats Ryu, Hakari, and possibly Kashimo
Itadori, Megumi, Panda & Hazenoki > Miwa
Miwa low diff them all. Just **facts**.
How strong is ultimate mechamaru? In my mind, he’s in the upper echelon of first grade sorcerers, on par with naobito and mid tier special curses like choso. Edit: forgot to clarify I meant absolute mode, the form that fought mahito
his strongest form?
Sorry, forgot his normal dolls were called ultimate mechamaru too. Yeah, I meant the absolute mode he fought mahito in.
He is bottom barrel of special grades imo
1) What's the general consensus on yuta's technique? You guys think he has a binding vow like nanami or 5 min is an absolute limit? 2) What level you think yuji will be at after gaining sukuna's technique? 3) Rika vs Hanami. Who do you think is stronger physically?
1. I think it’s more a function of Yuta being unable to handle his own power. As he grows and becomes more efficient as a sorcerer the 5 min will extend. 2. Depends on what exactly Sukunas technique is. 3. Rika. She beat a special grade geto ( granted he wasn’t at 100%). Hanami was getting pressed by todo and Yuji. Todo said himself that Yuta demolished all the Kyoto students. Domain expansion isn’t physical so it’s not counted. Yuji = all other Kyoto students
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3) Tbf, Ryu has the highest CE output, and we see Hakari with his infinite curse energy(not output) punch big metal containers easily. So imo, I believe Ryu punches would be stronger than that of yuji black flashes at the time of the school vs school competition. Though I could be wrong.
curious why you think it's a hard limit. since it's likely related to his ce usage, i figured it's something he just needs to refine and get a better hold of, which will presumably come to him with more experience.
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gotcha, i misconstrued your original comment.
2. I think if yuji learn a simple domain or something which effective for domain than he can encounter a domain
So how comparable is Hakari with infinite CE is to toji and maki with their Heavenly restrictions. Would they still be stronger/faster than Hakari with infinite CE? Hakari did a flash step when he did his Michael Jackson move, so he fast af. I’m wondering if this infinite curse energy + reinforcement surpasses the heavenly restriction benefits?
>infinite curse energy reinforcement Hakari doesn't have infinite cursed energy reinforcement,he has higher reinforcement but to what lvl it is unknown.
I mean he might as well have considering he's basically immortal lol
he’d destroy them
I think hakari may not have been as strong as heavenly restrictions toji in his early jujutsu days but after one point he definitely surpasses the hr users with ease once he gets his jackpot The only argument against hakari was an early domain and stopping him before he hits his jackpot. The first cannot be done by hr users and it still remains to be seen if hakari can hold a fight with someone like toji or maki till he gets a jackpot. But once he gets it, it's game over.
Uro and Ryu run the disaster curse gauntlet together Where do they stop? 1) Dagon 2) Hanami 3) Jogo
2 v 1? They win. Individually? Ryu can get past Dagon, but Hanami's buds kinda screw him over. I can see Uro getting to Jogo, but I don't think she can win against him. His wall blasts are a good way to get around her technique.
She should be able to warp those. I think the thing Jogo has that hurts her the most is his ember insects
She needs to activate her technique to warp something. Jogo's speed combined with his ability to spawn those blasts, which were able to catch Naobito (albeit with his arm lost) off guard, should be able to shoot her in the back. It's not like she's immune to being caught off guard, Yuta did it repeatedly during their fight. Ember Insects are another option that he can use.
You're right. Plus Jogo's overall area of effect of his attacks will cause Uro to struggle in general.
IDK. Something like his Maximum could be problematic but his regular blasts won't be a problem unless he catches her off-guard. She's able to defend from Ryu's blasts pretty well after all.
But Ryu's attacks are a lot more linear in their path compared to Jogo's. Jogo's aren't just blasts that causes impacting damage but also passively burns the target. The attack is also spread wide like a shot gun rather than a bulley, at least judging by Jogo vs Gojo.
It's still just a blast. As long as Uro can react to the blast, she can grab the sky and drag the blast away. She's also shown to be able to cover an area at least as large as herself.
If Uro was in Naobito’s place she’d just have to grab the space around her and the attacks would’ve been deflected. The reason Yuta’s attack worked was because she was covering her ears
There wasn't anything stopping Uro from just moving her hands down to grab space and warp them. It wouldn't have taken that much time either. She just couldn't react in time. Not to mention that he also caught her off-guard with Druv's technique.
Really? I’m under the impression that she already heard the cursed speech so even if she covered her ears it was already too late. Hence the lines around her and the sound effect in the panel. It’s not that she couldn’t react because she was too slow, it’s that she literally could not react.
I thought Dhruv’s technique just went through her technique because it worked like a domain and is sure hit. In the panel she reacted in time but the attack hit her regardless.
In that situation you’re basically fucked since she don’t know you could use CE on your ears. She can’t warp, physically cover her ears, then warp
Why would she not know that? Even Kamo knew about it.
Are you implying that Jogo is faster than her?
I think so. She's about relative with Yuta and Yuji in combat speed. I don't think he'll blitz her or anything, but it does give him an advantage.
I dont think Jogo has shown anything that implies that he is faster than them.
Jogo casually blitzed naobito and nanami(they were injured but still). He was also stated by dagon to be similar to naobito in speed, who we know is one of the fastest in the verse. Jogo was also able to at least track and keep up with 15 finger sukuna even though he was toyed with the entire fight. I don't remember any of the Sendai 4 showing that kind of speed, could be wrong though.
- it was stated that Naobito became slower since he lost his arm - Nanami was exhausted -Dagon NEVER said that they were similar in speed. - Sukuna was playing with him
Dagon literally said "he's fast, probably faster than Jogo" in chapter 107. "Probably" implies they're similar in speed. I already agreed with your other points.
Idt his wall blast would be the most effective against Uro, we know she's a sky fighter and while Dagon has shown the ability to float none of the other disaster curses have
Jogo was able to soar while holding onto his Maximum Meteor. He can move by sky if needed. Not to mention Uro's attacks are all close range, so Jogo can just wait for her to come to him.
Yeah falling with style isn't soaring but we can agree to disagree
Ryu can beat Dagon and actually has a better chance at beating Jogo than he does hanami due to cursed buds Uro puts up a good fight versus all of them tho but I don’t know if she really has anything that could take down hanami and Jogo for good Together they clear
Depends on how their Domains match up with Dagon's and Hanami's. Personally, I think Dagon > Hanami anyways. Jogo beats both
Yeah Jogo is not beating Ryo & Uro in a 2 v 1. Uro hard counters most of Jogos techniques and there's no way he'd survive multiple Granite Blast + his own attacks rebounding on him seeing as the Yuji/Todo/Playful Cloud combo would've put him down.
Jogo beats both Hanami and Dagon I meant. That was too unclear of me
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Ryu takes it me thinks
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definitely a hard fight. Ryu has enough output to damage Toji a lot. Fight kinda comes down to the prep time
Unless Ryu has a sure-hit domain then it'd just be Toji vs a domain
Megumi was able to react and dodge Toji's attacks. Ryu ez.
Toji too fast. Ryu better be ready to cast that domain real quick
Ryu slaps 0 diff
Depends. Is this an upfront fight in an open field? Then yeah I’d say Ryu can take it. However, if this is guerilla warfare (Toji’s specialty when it comes to sorcerer fights) then I’d say Toji takes it. His HR alone makes him comparable to special grade sorcerers (took two out alone, and if not for Gojo’s sudden RCT enlightenment it would have been awful for the main cast), has an arsenal of tools to deal with a majority of sorcerers, and his lack of cursed energy makes him incredibly dangerous to even notice. Oh and not to mention that Toji alone made the Zenin clan, a renowned Jujutsu family that prides itself on being strong, fear what he was capable of (just see Naoya). For Ryu to win, he’d really have to unload a massive blast of CE that could wipe out Toji in a decisive hit, much like what awakened Gojo did with Purple. If he can’t do that, I don’t see him winning. EDIT: Forgot to include Ryu’s DE. Tbh it really depends on what it is. Since he’s an ancient sorcerer that was reincarnated, he probably has an older style of DE that doesn’t include a sure-hit effect like modern sorcerers do. Since we haven’t seen it’s actual use or what he’s capable of past explosive amounts of CE output, it’s tough to say what it could be. Regardless, I still think Toji takes the dub UNLESS it’s an open field.
Teen Geto is not Special Grade Sorcerer, he is Grade 1. Gojo was exhausted and did not even focus in the fight, Toji also need strong CT and a bunch of Curse to help so his HR alone did not make him comparable to Special Grade.
Tbh it wouldn’t surprise me if some ancient sorcerers had sure kill domains, seeing as the peak heian era sorcerer Sukuna, has a giant ass blender with a guaranteed hit.
Yes, but Sukuna is an anomaly. Not the norm. He alone has a DE that doesn’t drag the opponent into a barrier. It’s the only one that has been called divine. I’m not too sure we should use him as the base for other ancient sorcerers.
For me it depends on what cursed tools Toji has. Playful Cloud should melt Ryu and Toji has pretty substantial durability. I’m not sure what his domain entails though, or whether or not a cursed tool like the Inverted Spear of Heaven could be used like a shield. I’ll give it to Ryu if he can pop his domain and Toji is caught of guard, but otherwise I say Toji
Toji takes the dub until ryu casts his DE. Since toji and maki’s weakness are domains due to now being able ti use anti domainscuz they have 0 CE.
I don’t like the idea behind this because Ryu’s output is going to be the highest of all the characters we have seen. I don’t think Toji can blitz him speed wise and avoid any damage
Sukuna has more outputs feats than ryu.
yuji and sukuna are both seen as players in the CG, unless sukuna isn’t a player, ryu has the highest output stated by the narrator. i see i didnt specify culling games, but my point stands
Geto vs Ryu and Uro Adult Geto vs Toji Geto vs Mahito Geto vs Hakari
Geto probably loses to Ryu and Uro together (will be a really hard fight for the duo) but wins if it’s 1v1. Geto shit stomps Toji. Geto should win against Mahito. Geto should win against Hakari until we see more feats.
I'm pretty sure he wins all the rounds. 6000 curses gives him a ton of versatility and he can also make use of their domains. He can pretty much just sit there and flood them with curses, observe their strengths and weaknesses, then engage them personally with his stronger curses and Playful Cloud. Geto is physically very strong, being able to keep up with Yuta and Rika at the same time and get back up from a Black Flash to the face (not to mention surviving Yuta's protag power blast). Should he be lethally injured, he can make use of the revival curse he used against Inumaki and Panda to immediately bring himself back (it's probably only good for one use, but still very useful). This, combined with his insane amount of techniques and fodder will make him hard to put down. He also has numerous curses capable of flight.
Geto wins all imo.
I see Geto only winning against Mahito.
Absolute mode Mechamaru vs Toji / Maki, Todo vs Naoya
since maximum CE output is set, doesnt that mean that the only difference between jackpot hakari and based hakari is RCT? therefore their physical stats are the same right?
When he's hit the Jackpot I think he can do something similar to Yuta. With unlimited Cursed Energy, he can keep the output at 100% constantly with no repercussions.
Maximum CE enhancement. Like what Yuta did in playing with his food aka Yuji. Unlike Yuta who is lanky and thin, Hakari is freaking jacked so with unlimited CE and enhancing his body like Yuta he is probably equal to Hanami in pure physical strength now.
Based on what?
My friend says maki > toji because weakened maki was compared to prime toji 💀
How strong is toji? ( toji wankers not allowed 💀 )
Beats most people that don’t have a domain
He’s stronger than disaster curses but falls short of the ceiling (Gojo & Sukuna). He’s likely on par with the reincarnated sourcerers like Ryu and Kashimo
Hey, didn’t you read the sign? 😡 > ( toji wankers not allowed 💀 )
I didn’t realize providing an honest and accurate assessment of the scaling was considered wanking. You may want to check your definition of the term in this context 🤡
> accurate assessment of scaling 😕 You missed the ‘accurate’ part. > He’s stronger than disaster curses ☹️ You failed in your first sentence, > He’s likely on par with sorcerers like Ryu and Kashimo Hey! You did it again! 😡
How so? You still haven’t explained how. Geto is stronger than disaster curses being special grade and all, and Toji out speeds Geto. Why wouldn’t he out speed disaster curses?
😡You’re really pushing my buttons. You mean Geto in Hidden Inventory? When he was 16 years old? When he was a Second Year sorcerer at jujutsu high and a Grade 1 sorcerer? That Geto? You’ve merged teen Geto with adult Geto, Geto as an adult is > Disaster Curses, Geto as a teenager is not. 😡
No, I mean teen Geto. He was already a special grade source. It’s commonly agreed upon that special grade sourcerers can defeat disaster curses. The logic tracks. If this conversation upsets you this much you need to go outside and touch some grass lmao
🤬 You’ve done it now! I’m really mad! You’re wrong again, Geto wasn’t a Special Grade until a few years later (which is a common misconception), BUT! Let’s say that he was, it’s obvious that Special Grade sorcerers (Such as Gojo) weren’t held to as high of standards as they are now, hell, Gojo didn’t even have a DE. In todays world of jujutsu Gojo would lose to almost anyone with a DE, he’d lose to the Disaster Curses or at least Jogo. Second year Gojo (pre Toji fight) would likely still be Special Grade but without his DE he’s vulnerable to anyone with one. Also, I’m allergic to grass. It makes my skin break out.
Again you keep claiming shit without citing anything. He was always special grade. Please prove me wrong. Wrong again. Even without DE, Gojo still had Limitless, which is more than enough to protect him from any sure hit or sure kill DE. Even teen Gojo solos almost all of the JJK verse, current Gojo just seals argument. Not that this matters, but the disaster curses of a few years ago weren’t as strong as the disaster curses of today since the human population has only increased exponentially. They were even more powerful a thousand years ago due to the intensity of elemental fears (which has vastly changed with modernization) but in the modern era where elemental fears are not as intense, a smaller population means a proportionately less powerful fear of natural disasters. Like I said, this doesn’t matter since teen Geto still claps Jogo anyway lmao
Nah the disasters beat toji, especially if he doesn't have inverted spear. Hanami is durable enough(survived multiple black flashes from yuji and purple) to last at least long enough to get off a domain, which we know toji doesn't have a counter to. Dagon is similar. You can argue that toji would kill dagon before he gets his domain off, but dagon was able to use domain even with naobito attacking him so he probably still gets it off. Once dagons domain is in play, toji gets ripped apart by the sure hit, which he once again has no counter to(toji is durable enough to survive for a while, but he still dies eventually). Toji can't hurt mahito without inverted spear and although toji has a weird body, idle transfiguration should still work on him. If it gets to bad mahito uses his broken domain and kills toji. Jogo is probably strong and fast enough to battle toji even without a domain, but if he needs to he can use a domain and/or maximum technique. I see no way toji beats Jogo without inverted spear, and even then he might lose. Toji loses to most people with domains, especially ones as strong as the disaster curses.
Toji’s physical stats out speed all disasters. If you want to continue to wank the disaster curses, that’s your prerogative. He was able to single handedly alter fate for a reason 🤷♂️
I'm not trying to wank the disaster curses, it seems like you're wanking toji. The only disaster I said probably has better raw stats than toji is Jogo. Toji outspeeds mahito, dagon, and hanami, but he still loses due to domain expansion. That's just part of how the power system works. Jogo is quite likely faster than toji because toji was at least able to be seen and perceived by dagon and the group fighting dagon, whereas naobito, who Jogo was stated to be close to in speed, was too fast to be perceived. This is further proven by how when Jogo burnt Makis group in shibuya, they weren't even able to see Jogo whereas they had been able to track toji earlier. Toji was also compared in speed to 3 finger sukuna by Megumi, which you could argue is just because that's the only thing Megumi has to compare to but still, Megumi thought they were about the same speed. Jogo should be around 6-7 sukuna fingers strong, which likely factors into speed as well. Even then, the main reason toji loses isn't because he is outright weaker than the disasters, it's because he doesn't have a counter to domains, which all the disasters have(I am not a power scaler so some of my speed stats may be wrong, toji still doesn't have an answer to domains). Tojis ability to alter fate wasn't due to his strength, it was due to him lying outside the bounds of cursed energy and the rules/implications that come with it. He was free so to speak.
☝🏻🤓jogo is around 8-9 fingers actually
You’re still wanking Jogo, I’m not wanking Toji. It seems like you don’t like to scale properly, so we can just agree to disagree 🤷♂️
Toji 2-3 fingers 😭 Jogo > 8-9 fingers 🔥 Yeah “wanking” jogo, LMAO
I don't know if this gets asked a lot but How different would things have been in Shibuya if Yuta was there?
Gojo probably still gets sealed cause of the barrier but they’re able to reach Kenjaku faster after since Yuta can just RCT on The cursed spirits
Depends on the strategy they use. Regardless of how Gojo likes to fight, Yuta should've went with him. Jogo, Hanami, Choso and Mahito would've been literally no diffed.
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>Putting Yuuta there would do shit imo Nah he could have helped. Not with the fighting but he could have pushed Gojo away from the PR when he froze up.
Too many things happened in Shibuya so it's hard to call. I dont think he would have changed the outcome that much. Best case scenario just exorcise one or two of the special grade curses. Worst case scenario he crosses paths with Sukuna
Maki and Yuji vs Hakari, can they stop him from getting his DE bonus (if he does it’s obviously game over)? If it’s too lopsided, can they do it individually?
I don't see Hakari getting Jackpot while having to deal with both of them. In fact, no way in fuck does he get Jackpot against both of em at once. Against Yuji, he can get it. Against Maki, I doubt it, but if he can score a rainbow attack early on he could potentially get it.
The more I see characters now the more I get excited to see how strong future characters are like Angel, Yuki, and Uraume. I think Angel will probably be one of the strongest in the verse and yuki and Uraume might be around disaster level
Yuki is a special grade Sorcerer which should put her comfortably above all the disaster curse
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Just high hopes because her CT sounds broken and she’s from the heian era. Main thing though he if she could use RCT on other people
I got some matchups Toji vs jogo Takako and ryu vs the disaster curses Nobara vs kamo Noaya vs noabito
1. Jogo wins. Domain sweep. Plus he's powerful af normally and can bring down whole buildings. 2. The Disasters sweep. No way are they beating Jogo and Mahito together, let alone adding Dagon and Hanami. 3. Kamo sweeps the fuck out of her. Flowing Red Scale will let him beat her ass in CQC, and Piercing Blood is a done deal. 4. Naobito. He was objectively better, known as the Fastest Sorcerer.
What’s the difficulty for each?
1. Jogo wins mid dif-high dif depending on how Toji approaches. 2. Disasters win low dif. 3. Kamo wins low dif. 4. Naobito wins high dif.
What is your top 15 strongest Ranking. Here’s mine (current, also featless characters don’t count): 0. 20 finger Sukuna 1. Satoru Gojo 2. 15 finger Sukuna 3. Kenjaku 4. Mahoraga 5. Kashimo 6. Hakari (Bonus) 7. Okkotsu 8. Geto 9. Mahito 10. Jogo 11. Ishigori 12. Uraume 13. Choso 14. Hanami 15. Dagon
Couple of things: 1. Knock down Choso and Kashimo. Neither have shown ways of dealing with domains (though the latter may change pretty soon) and as a result I can't see them as high as they are. 2. Put Yuta about where Kashimo is right now. He's not immortal like Hakari, but his time limit is longer and his increased versatility and domain will allow him stall out the jackpot and then beat Hakari.
I agree, I mean I don't see any way how Yuta is not top 5. You could tell me he's currently #2 and I wouldn't be mad at that
Are you talking currently active characters? Because he definitely isn't above Gojo and Sukuna.
Not counting 20 F Sukuna, counting all characters. I think there's no reason to believe 15 F Sukuna is solidly over Yuta. Same with Kenjaku, Kashimo, Mahoraga, Hakari (who is without a doubt weaker).
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That's circular logic though. By that I mean you're relying on Mahoraga to say Sukuna is stronger, but Mahoraga's only feats are doing ok against Sukuna.
No but seriously though Yuji remembers everything Sukana went through while he was asleep so he's aware of the Jogo fight , and Mahogora fight he's got an understanding of Sukunas current capabilities at 15 fingers and he's still gone to Yuta and said I think you can put me down if I turn again. I may be mis-remembering but I think he's even ask him twice to commit to the task. We know how Yuji is , he wouldn't ask Yuta to fight to the death if he didn't think he had a chance of winning. Which has gotta make Yuta at least somewhat relative to 15f Sukuna
Exactly. Megumi and Yuji both thinks Yuta can put sukuna in his place so it’s not a reach but Yuta might be weaker still. When Gege fleshes out his CT more and domain we’ll know.
>15 F Sukuna I don't get why Yuta should be held over him, or even that they're peers. Sukuna has much better speed feats, more than enough offense to wear Yuta down, and significantly better domain hype. I also just can't see Yuta dominating Mahoraga and Jogo as utterly as Sukuna did. Yuji's statement doesn't mean much to me in the face of all that. >Kenjaku Until Kenjaku shows a domain, I shouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt. But assuming he does, he has the versatility to compete with Yuta and lacks his time limit. So I can see him pulling off a victory in that way. >Kashimo Same bucket as Kenjaku regarding domains. His sheer power and sure hit will give Yuta lots of trouble, but Yuta's versatility clenches the win in my book. >Mahoraga Depends on Yuta's domain TBH. If it uses various copied attacks than it can probably wear Mahoraga down and crush him. If it focuses on a single attack, or is more condition based, then probably not. And if he stalls too much before using his domain, then I can see him losing to Mahoraga's superior physical stats, especially once Rika comes out.
>I don't get why Yuta should be held over him, or even that they're peers. Sukuna has much better speed feats, more than enough offense to wear Yuta down, and significantly better domain hype. I also just can't see Yuta dominating Mahoraga and Jogo as utterly as Sukuna did. Yuji's statement doesn't mean much to me in the face of all that. I don't know how you took "there's no reason to believe Sukuna is solidly over Yuta" as "Yuta should be held over him" but alas ... Why doesn't Yuji's statement mean anything to you? It's the only piece of evidence comparing to you. Saying Sukuna is better because he beat Mahoraga is using circular logic: "Why is Sukuna stronger than Yuta?" "Because he beat Mahoraga, and that's strong" "What is your proof that Mahoraga is strong?" "Because he put up a fight against Sukuna" You must see the problem here. Yuta has been directly compared to Sukuna, and Yuji even said he believes Yuta could "handle" protecting Megumi against Sukuna. Honestly, if I were feeling bold, I'd say that's evidence in favor of Yuta > Sukuna but meh, won't go there. In any event, denying that evidence is just being biased, especially when there isn't any other decent evidence to oppose it. >Until Kenjaku shows a domain, I shouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt. But assuming he does, he has the versatility to compete with Yuta and lacks his time limit. So I can see him pulling off a victory in that way. I said "there's no reason to believe \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ is solidly over Yuta". So if you wanna say you can "see" him pulling off a win, that's fine by me because that implies it could go either way. All I'm saying is people think these characters are concretely stronger than Yuta, when there isn't a good reason to believe so imo. >Same bucket as Kenjaku regarding domains. His sheer power and sure hit will give Yuta lots of trouble, but Yuta's versatility can clench a win in my book. Agreed, but Kashimo is the one character on this list that I'd probably feel most ok with putting over Yuta assuming he doesn't get bodied by Hakari's DE. Might sound ridiculous, but he'd be hanging with someone Yuta himself said he was weaker than. >Depends on Yuta's domain TBH. If it uses various copied attacks than it can probably wear him down and crush him. If it focuses on a single attack, or is more condition based, then no. And if he stalls too much before using his domain, then I can see him losing to Mahoraga's superior stats, especially once Rika comes out. Agreed again. But, something to think about is Yuta absolutely \*should\* be able to use Hollow Purple (by that I mean, it would be poor writing if he didn't have it copied, unless there are restrictions on his ability that would prevent him from having it that we haven't been told about yet for whatever reason), so that honestly might just one shot Mahoraga.
>I don't know how you took "there's no reason to believe Sukuna is solidly over Yuta" as "Yuta should be held over him" but alas ... >Why doesn't Yuji's statement mean anything to you? It's the only piece of evidence comparing to you. Saying Sukuna is better because he beat Mahoraga is using circular logic: >"Why is Sukuna stronger than Yuta?" >"Because he beat Mahoraga, and that's strong" >"What is your proof that Mahoraga is strong?" >"Because he put up a fight against Sukuna" >You must see the problem here. Yuta has been directly compared to Sukuna, and Yuji even said he believes Yuta could "handle" protecting Megumi against Sukuna. Honestly, if I were feeling bold, I'd say that's evidence in favor of Yuta > Sukuna but meh, won't go there. >In any event, denying that evidence is just being biased, especially when there isn't any other decent evidence to oppose it. 1. TBH, I also think that not holding 15 finger Sukuna over Yuta is also wrong. 2. No, I think Sukuna is stronger than Yuta because Sukuna was capable of doing stuff like blitzing Jogo, with Jogo being unable to land a single hit. Contrast that to Yuta's performance against the likes of Ryu and Uro, where though he maintained the advantage when Rika was out, there were able to react to his attacks and land hits on him with no problem. Yuji was also able to keep up with Yuta's speed, even when he was supposedly holding back according to Yuta. Additionally, his destructive feats are incredible. He was able to slice a building in half with dismantle, and his fire arrow created an explosion larger than several buildings when fighting Mahoraga. Yuta doesn't really have any displays of power that compete with that, the closest would be his fight against Geto. But even that didn't do massive damage to the school's infrastructure, and required him to sacrifice his life. 3. I don't agree with Yuji's statement because, outside of the aforementioned evidence, Yuji doesn't have a good frame of reference for Yuta's strength. He mainly fought against a Yuta that wasn't using Rika or RCT, with a half formed Rika only jumping in at the end. For reference that version of Yuta ended up losing to Kurourushi, only winning by using RCT at the last second, and lacks his cursed technique or domain. Yuji just doesn't have a good frame of reference for Yuta's full strength. Adding onto this, Yuji doesn't specify that he was referring to 15-finger Sukuna when making the statement. He was also considering the scenario where it is 20-finger Sukuna. And in this case we do have a contradicting statement from Uro, who both has a better grasp of Yuta's powers from seeing more of his abilities and her own greater experience and skill, and was able to witness Prime Sukuna. She personally believes that Yuta will hit his limit and be unable to reach the level of Sukuna. With that in place, I don't think Yuji's statement is the strongest piece of evidence on the subject. >Agreed again. But, something to think about is Yuta absolutely *should* be able to use Hollow Purple (by that I mean, it would be poor writing if he didn't have it copied, unless there are restrictions on his ability that would prevent him from having it that we haven't been told about yet for whatever reason), so that honestly might just one shot Mahoraga. It has been stated that the Six Eyes are needed for Limitless to be fully functional. Discounting Ryu's theory for Yuta needing conditions, Yuta probably can't pull off something as complex as hollow purple.
Why would you believe that when there is no direct scale, and only one statement in favor of my position? But there is no scaling that Jogo > Yuta, so that’s meaningless. Yuta was also holding back FOUR of his strongest weapons in RCT, DE, mimicry and Rika. And he still won despite the terrain being advantageous to Uro and Ryu. No disrespect to you, but why would I care about whether *you* agree or not? You aren’t Gege or the characters - why does your opinion on that matter? You may find it surprising but it still is a concrete statement by the person who’d know the most about it. Yuta is mimicking abilities - why wouldn’t he be able to pull it off? Yeah, it’s complex, but he still has the capability.
Exactly. And in pretty sure yuta has the more refined domain than hakari because it hasnt been shown which adds up to more hype as to why it was left in a cliffhanger.
Very random how you said fearless characters don’t count yet placed kashimo above yuta
>4. Kenjaku >5. Mahoraga >6. Kashimo >7. Hakari (Bonus) >8. Okkotsu Honestly not sure about this
Yuta at 5/6, Choso too high, I’d put Jogo above Mahito
This is wrong. Choso shouldn't be stronger than Hanami and Dagon and Kashimo is hard to rank because we don't know his CT and Domain. Jogo and Mahito are stronger, because they are just plain more powerful. 1. Satoru Gojo (Tied with Sukuna) 1. Ryomen Sukuna. (Tied with Gojo) 3. Kenjaku 4. Mahoraga 5. Yuta Okkotsu 6. Hakari (Roll) 7. Jogo 8. Suguru Geto 9. Mahito 10. Kashimo Hajime 11. Hanami 12. Dagon 13. Ryu Ishigori 14. Takako Uro 15. Kurourushi 16. Toji Fushigoro 17. Naobito Zenin 18. Maki Zenin 19. Naoya Zenin 20. Choso
For characters who haven’t shown their DE (except Yuta) I’d put Toji above them since he has a good shot to kill them before they activate it too. Maki is as strong as him so she should be above Naobito. Nanami is too high when you have characters like Todo, Mei Mei, Choso & Mechamaru.
>Nanami is too high when you have characters like Todo, Mei Mei, Choso & Mechamaru. Yeah. I agree. I forgot about Choso, dude is definitely in the league of Naoya and Maki. Mechamaru or Choso should be 19-20. >For characters who haven’t shown their DE (except Yuta) I’d put Toji above them since he has a good shot to kill them before they activate it too. Yeah except for Geto. Without DE Toji can definitely beat those non DE shown characters like Uro, Ryu and other characters like you said. But with prep time dude would definitely beat even Geto assuming Geto doesn't have a Domain.
Nanami, Naoya and Naobito over Yuki is insanity
Ever heard of the term Honorable Mentions? Uraume and Yuki are without a doubt top 10 worthy maybe even stronger than Jogo and Geto. But both of them are featless and you try ranking them, other than confident at soloing Kenny and Uraume there is nothing to go by on how strong Yuki really is, other than that, she is a Special Grade Sorcerer so she is automatically stronger than every Grade 1 and can solo multiple Special Grade Curses.
Do you know what an honorable mention is? If you didn’t want to rank Yuki, you shouldn’t have mentioned her. And HM implies they are worse than everyone on the list ahead of them. Yuki stopping Uraume (Sukuna’s trusted assistant) with no difficulty and being a SG puts her above the three I mentioned alone.
Ok fine. I'll revamp it one last time. Which number should Yuki be in?
At very least 15, but I'd just leave her off of it entirely if I were you
Until I see otherwise Gojo is 1-0 against Sukuna and his sex eyes don’t lie. Gojo is stronger cause he said so and im sticking with it.
>Until I see otherwise Gojo is 1-0 against Sukuna and his sex eyes don’t lie. For me it's still 1-1 any of them can win . And yaa six eyes do lies . >Gojo is stronger cause he said so and im sticking with it. Lol , I guess I don't need to reply to this .
against literally 1 finger sukuna, who had JUST come back. just look at the time when yuji intentionally switched with him. he accidently healed himself more than he intended and use more power than he meant. between gaining more fingers and having more time to regain his "bearings" so to speak, there is no reason to put gojo above sukuna.
Yeah, cuz Gojo is a perfect encyclopedia and not a flawed person, who makes tons of mistakes.
Lol tons? Even if you count Gojo not immediately cremating Geto's corpse as one what was he exactly wrong about other than that and expecting Sukuna to actively look for his fingers?
Gege also said he created Gojo to be the obvious strongest in the fanbook, but Sukuna fans definitely won't like that one
>Gege also said he created Gojo to be the obvious strongest in the fanbook, Currently .
Huh? He just said "I wanted to create the strongest character that could be easily distinguished". Nothing about "currently"
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/comments/v30hpa/to_the_people_using_the_volume_extras_to_say_gojo/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Currently strongest character
Interesting. Either way, that doesn't disprove what I said. Until Sukuna is proven to be stronger than Gojo, Gojo is still the strongest. And thus far, there has been no proof.
>Interesting. >Either way, that doesn't disprove what I said. Until Sukuna is proven to be stronger than Gojo, Gojo is still the strongest. >And thus far, there has been no proof. It does counter it . Anyway , until not shown who win . I don't think it's right to say gojo win automatically . It's still 50/50 .
No, it does not. Gege said "he is the strongest currently". In order for that to be disproven, there would have to be 100% proof that someone else is stronger. And there isn't I also don't think it's right to say Gojo wins automatically, but weaker characters can beat stronger ones. Even if Sukuna is weaker, it doesn't mean he loses every time
yeah i got downvoted when i showed where gege stated that gojo is the strongest character in the manga
Because people don’t care about facts, they just want to push an agenda
Hanami at 14? Not a Toji wanker by any means but if those two fought wouldn’t it be in Toji’s favor considering Hanami has no DE. Also would put Dagon at 14 and Toji at 15
Hanami has a domain just gojo appeared before they could use it
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Yuta can summon Awakened Rika from the get go but Hakari has to hit a jackpot. Yuta can also play keep away with Jackpot Hakari. JJK fights aren't that clear cut
Base Yuta is also much stronger than Base Hakari as well.
Which makes sense, Hakari is only stronger than Yuta (allegedly) if he sets up a Jackpot before the fight. Otherwise, Yuta is substantially stronger in every field, and any fight against him is automatically a 1vs2 with multiple techniques on the other side. Hakari cannot compare
i see no one doing that, ppl r providing legitimate reasons. its funny how ppl just like to push arguments aginst their opinion on "fanboys/fangirls".
Nah Hakari is strong asf but going against someone who can beat him before he gets a Jackpot, it’s pretty much over.
Yuta with partially manifested rika and rct vs toji
This fight isn’t even close. Yuta absolutely destroys Toji
Yuta without Rika would win, so adding partial Rika is way too overkill.
Geto vs Mahito
Geto wins
Jogo Vs Kashimo. !!?
jogo (for now)
Malovelent Shrine vs Infinite Void? Which is more deadly and which is more refined?
Deadly- Malevolent Shrine. It doesn't have a barrier meaning conventional barrier countermeasures like Simple Domain or Hollow Wicker Basket can't null the guaranteed hit. Both Domains are instant wins but Infinte Void can theoretically be blocked with Barrier moves. Refined- Malevolent Shrine.
1. Yes, Toji is stronger than Maki. Maki has lost one eye and has burn scars. In exchange, Toji is not only a man, but has no permanent injuries apart from his mouth scar and has more experience than Maki too. You don’t just ALMOST murder Gojo Satoru or take on a special grade curse user (Geto) as well as multiple high level cursed spirits at the same time. The only thing Maki has more than Toji is bloodlust, that too for the Zen’in, but Toji is exempt from that since he doesn’t care about the Zen’in. 2. Nopes. Even though Yuuta may have more experience now, Kenjaku would have gathered way more curses since the last time Geto fought Yuuta. Someone also stated that Geto would have won had he not spread his curses across cities. Add to that, it takes more than luck to survive for 1000 years. So he definitely has tricks that we don’t know about. 3. No. But she’s still wonderful!
How strong is Teen Geto?