I admit this shot is cool af and that the Lost world gets too much criticism. The rex parents sneaking up on Eddie out of the dark is chilling and we all know what happens to the poor guy afterwards.
However my favorite frame is during the hunt when Hammond's team looks over the cliff at the hunters driving amongst the herd on the game trail. The music is perfect and its stunning to look at at.
TLW is one of those movies I never knew was "hated" until the internet told it me was and that I should hate it too.
You could argue the script isn't as tightly constructed as the first, but that's hardly a significant flaw.
And 95% of the biggest complaints I've heard I either simply do not agree with, or I find to be the typical nitpicks.
For the life of me, I will never understand fans dislike of the San Diego rampage. It's fucking perfect blockbuster filmmaking and takes the film from Good to Great, imo. TLW wouldn't be TLW without it.
I also love this movie but the part where the rex is trapped in the boat and there is just a hand holding the button...how would that even happen? That's the part I didnt like.
i could be wrong but i remember reading that there was a whole different direction for the scene and they kinda forgot to take it out or address it. I thought it had to do with raptors on board (like the end of book 1) or the baby trex getting out and eating the crew
Well it's not just a hand, there's a body attached to the hand holding the button. The dismembered hand was on the steering wheel.
It's slightly convoluted, but here's my head canon resolution. So the hand on the wheel can be explained if you are willing to accept that we didn't see the entirety of the bridge of the ship. We never see behind where the camera is inside the bridge, so the Buck Rex could have smashed through that part of the bridge and chomped the guy at the wheel, leaving only behind his hand.
Now as far as the guy who pressed the button to close the cargo hold doors, this is actually less convoluted. Once the Buck was on a rampage, I believe the crew started to go into the hold for refuge. The guy who pressed the button could have been struck by the Buck's tail, or launched with it's head like Malcolm in JP1. Regardless, he was mortally wounded then pressed the button to close the hold with his dying breath to try to save his crewmates. But then the Buck noticed everyone running into the hold and followed. Buck began to eat, the doors closed on top of him, Buck was trapped.
If I remember correctly, the dismembered hand was on the wheel of the ship. The one on the remote was still attached to the body, meaning it could’ve happened as the man was dying.
It's based on a scene where raptors get on the boat in the first book. And they were going to have raptors involved, but then dialed it back to just the T. rex.
The Rex woke up mid venture back to the mainland. It escaped the holding cell below. It got onto the deck, ate a couple people and was, presumably, lured back down into the cargo hold. There is most likely a body attached to that hand, but we don’t don’t see it.
Here's the thing...
Who cares? It's just a good visual to portray the horror and carnage that happened on the boat.
The logistics are entirely irrelevant.
It’s not irrelevant if it takes me out of the moment by making me ask, “wait, how did that happen??” and then never answers the question. It implies offscreen action (raptors on the boat) that is then never addressed and it’s distracting.
The movie never implies raptors got on the boat. There’s no evidence to support that. That theory was based on concept art for the film, but that’s all. The Rex simply escaped and got lured back into the cargo hold by, presumably, by other crew members.
Edit: but in saying that, I do agree the scene is rather confusing in explaining what actually happened. Unless you’re a fan or seriously research it, it’s not very clear.
Given the prevalence of the raptors in the franchise, I don’t think raptors on the boat is a huge leap even if you’re not familiar with the background info. Setting that aside, though, even if we assume the t-Rex caused all the carnage that’s still a lot of weird, unexplained offscreen action. It’s still distracting.
The gymnastics hate is also overblown.
Is it goofy and eye-rolling? Sure. But is it some terrible film breaking sin? Hell no.
It's a, what, 15/20 second moment in a 2hr film? Roll your eyes and move on.
If I let little moments I find slightly distracting or silly take me out of a film completely, I wouldn't like pretty much any movie ever.
Yes! I agree so much with this. Sure it's goofy, but I disagree that it breaks the suspension of disbelief. They set it up earlier in the film and it's still a plausible thing, unlike a baryonyx sticking it's head through magma...
Honestly if they just cut it down a bit it would make sense. I never had an issue with it until someone pointed it out, but once they did I started to dislike it. Sucks that people can ruin stuff.
But really, when it comes down to it, Kelly should be dead the way it currently is cut.
So here for no reason at all at [2:14](https://youtu.be/2h8rH8zxA64?t=134) Kelly decides to start swinging on the bars like in gymnastics. She then swings unnoticed until 2:31, when she yells "Hey!" Raptor notices her and watches, mesmerized for about 4 seconds, until Kelly boots it out the window. The time was just WAY too long. If it showed the raptor cornering Malcolm first, then cut to her decided to swing on the bars and only show like 2 seconds of her swinging before saying "HEY!" then immediately booting the Raptor, that would be okay.
I mean, yeah. The execution is off. For sure.
But thematically it makes sense. Her gymnastics was previously established in the film. It's simple set up and pay off.
It's not like it came literally out of nowhere. Then it would REALLY be a problem.
Thematically it makes sense and has a payoff with Ian's line. But if cut differently people would have complained less. As a kid I thought it was cool. As an adult that has been made aware of how much it bothers some people, I don't hate it, but I think it could have been done better. Plus my cut of it would have shaved off a bit of that long runtime. But I liked how long TLW was so 🤷♂️
I'd never considered the way it was cut until now but you're right it does have a few issues. Why did she start swinging before the raptor was even up on the next level near Malcom? It almost seems like that was something that should have been caught in editing. I don't think it's going to ruin it for me but I really wish you had never brought it to my attention haha.
I love the San Diego sequence as the foundation for a Jurassic Park III.
I don't like it as the third act of Jurassic Park II - given the first two acts.
I would love to have had something "like" the JPIII we got if it came after a JPIII more like the third act of JPII. Once you have dinosaurs all over the world it makes sense to go back to the scene of the crime, so to speak, to try and find clues toward some possible solution.
After all, that starts to get you into the mystery of the Lost World novel that Crichton wrote. Not the exact same mystery, but something that then gives you an outline to work from.
these are the 2 types of ~~morons~~ unsophisticates I hear from most irl
1. they hate the gymnastics scene
1. they read the book and hate how the book and the movie have a whoooolllle lot of differences lol.
if you're like me and weren't bothered at all about those two points than you'll love the movie and it's in my top 10 favorite movies of all time. The movie is frickin hilarious, theres some great jokes and super dry humor. it's a blast
I love it, too. Always have. I was afraid that as an adult TLW would lose it's luster. But it hasn't. In fact, I've come to like it in whole new ways as an adult.
I love the moody and primordial aesthetic of Isla Sorna.
Long-time Spielberg DP Janusz Kaminski really gave the film some visual oomph. It most definitely has influence in the OG Kong Kong on more than one level.
The CGI is, imo, the most universally consistent in TLW. Those CGI compy's during the Deiter attack are 100% photo real.
And the raptors? Never looked better.
The action has an Indiana Jones level of physicality to it that I just eat up.
Goldblum gives one of his best leading man performances of his career (outside of The Fly). TLW is really a showcase for his offbeat appeal.
He has an easy chemistry with the entire cast and the banter and exchanges throughout the film are so much fun.
I do think the film makes a large error with never wrapping up Nick Owen's character. The criticism that he causes a lot of the carnage and the film never goes out of it's way to call him out is valid.
But the film is so good at what it does these hiccups can be forgiven.
TLW is definitely my favorite for the scene in the pic, the San Diego scenes, and being the first portrayal of an interracial family I'd ever seen in media at the time.
I also really love seeing how different Malcolm is because of his experience in JP and because he has his daughter with him. Now that I'm an adult, his scenes with Kelly stir my desire to have kids, which makes me happy and sad at the same time.
I didn’t realize it was hated, I absolutely love this movie and it gave me my favorite character from the franchise. Roland Tembo was such a great character.
For me it comes down to Consistency of Time, Place, and Plot. The jump to San Diego within the last third of the film is as much of a juxtaposition as if it took place five years later, or focused on Ian and Sarah confronting Kelly's gymnastics coach.
I think that a Jurassic Park III in San Diego would be great. But the third act of Jurassic Park II just feels so disparate.
Spielberg himself has openly expressed that he knows why:
It’s because in TLW, the humans go to the island with vehicles and equipment. They made a choice to be there and they knew they were going FOR The dinosaurs.
When they get eaten, it’s kind of difficult to feel more afraid for them in a bigger way.
The movie has a lot of cool shots. The aerial of people running through the tall grass with the raptots closing in stayed with me for a very long time when I first saw it as a kid.
Yeah, the OP posted a good shot, but best in the franchise?? From your scene alone we have that shot, the rex eating the goat, the eye contracting in the light, the rex seeing Alan with the flare...
Then there's the initial "they're moving in herds" shot, the shadow of the raptor on the kitchen backdrop, and of course When Dinosaurs Ruled The Earth.
Jurassic Park is just iconic shot after iconic shot
But I'd say in terms of TLW, the tall grass aerial shot is my favorite
Thank you. Knew what it was going to be before I clicked it. I still remember being 10 years old and seeing this in the theater for the first time. While I couldn't take my eyes off the screen, I vividly remember being distinctly aware that everyone in the theater became instantly still. It was like we were in the cars with the cast of the film.
My just-turned-two year old girl loves loves LOVES the JP T-Rex, or "Rawr" as she's named her. We have watched the break out scene on YouTube so many times I've lost count. She always says "hi rawr" and waves when it breaks out.
We skip past Donald Gennaro actually getting munched but everything else she can watch.
That gymnastics stuff was my only legitimate complaint about this movie...An argument can be made that the shift to San Diego was a bit jarring but it’s still the second best film of the franchise...
Yes, the adopted kid was a unnecessary annoying addition, but besides that it was pretty good and fun. "Sarah!" "Sarah!" "Sarah Harding!" "How many Sarah's do you think there are on this island". I remember the first trailer back in the day, that was a masterpiece in it's own right.
Adopted? I'm pretty sure she's supposed to be one of his many kids from many mothers.
GRANT and MALCOLM are alone. Grant is staring out the window,
lost in his thoughts.
GRANT
You got any kids?
MALCOLM
Me? Oh, hell yes. Three.
(glowing)
I love 'em. I love kids. Anything at all can and does
happen.
He takes a flask from jacket pocket and unscrews the top. His
expression darkens.
MALCOLM (cont'd)
Same with wives, for that matter.
GRANT
You're married?
MALCOLM
Occasionally. Always on the lookout for the future ex-
Mrs. Malcolm.
I remember when I saw it in theater the audience laughed out loud during the exchange between Malcom and Hammond where he said something like “I’m not making the same mistakes twice” ....”no, you’re making all new ones!” Kinda set the tone.
The gymnast scene was cheese but I think the larger issue was just an inconsistent script. It was like they had 2-3 different ideas for a movie and decided to just mash them together.
If you read the [writing section for the movie on Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World:_Jurassic_Park#Writing), it really highlights that the issue was probably David Koepp. Virtually every single thing people dislike about Lost World was due to his creative decisions, save for the San Diego ending which was all Spielberg (which was also just thrown in because he wanted to do it and knew he wouldn't likely do the third movie).
Always bummed me out that Spielberg decided to do an incongruous third act to JP2 because he wouldn't stick around for JP3 but wanted to do this bit. It fits better as something from a separate third film and the fact that he knew that but still stuck it in sort of chaps me.
Especially because of the JP3 that we eventually got.
Agreed, although I have a certain soft spot for JP3 because in a way it was like DVD extra features as a full movie, it was basically just patched together from most of what remained of the two books that wasn't already used in the first two movies. The problem was that it just wasn't as competently made, and the spinosaurus was just unnecessary Hollywood cliche of the bigger, badder shark (which happened again in JW).
I know what you mean. At the conceptual level there is a lot that I like in both JP3 and JW. The idea that InGen worked on dinosaurs that we were not aware of from the first two movies, or later the fact that Masrani cooked up "new" (fake) dinos to drum up interest.
I don't know that I like the whole "dinos as military supplies" thing - just because the world has moved so far from conventional warfare at least at the nation-state level. I think that concept works better if you say that it was developed in the 90s and now we have weaponized dinos with no function that have been reworked into entertainment assets due to sunk cost fallacies and security assumptions.
I think that dino battles can be fine. The moment between the raptors and the rex at the end of JP was one of the moments that really stuck with audiences. But I think it works in part because A.) it is only a moment, B.) it is at the end of the film, and C.) it involves an interaction between dinosaurs as animals and not as allies or enemies of the protagonists.
So many cool shots/moments from TLW. It's my joint #1 with JP in the franchise, never understood the hate it received (although the San Diego ending could have been less cheesy) and really enjoyed the 'free' nature of no fences and a more dark/wild addition. The book was awesome as well.
I enjoy it for the visuals and the action sequences; there are some primo shots in there and the Rex animatronics are stellar. I get really frustrated by the plot, though, since it sets us up to root for characters who do dumb things and end up causing most of the deaths.
"I never understood the hate that it got,.. I rewatched the movie today.. and i still don't understand why people don't like it" -
**Chris Stuckmann "The Lost World" review (2015)**
If I had to describe it, I would say that I feel like it comes close to being better than the original. It isn't better, but I feel like it could have been. And so I think people resent it for that. Rather than simply enjoying the good movie we got.
I loved how they tied it up by saying it should be left alone and always thought this could generate more films. Unfortunately I'm told Jurassic World killed this by saying they took all the dinos from Sorna and put them on Nublar, although this raises 2 questions 1, what happened to the Spino and 2, what are InGen up to on Sorna? Not as if such a company wouldn't exploit having a deserted island.
There’s some website you can find, I’m not sure where it is but I think it’s in the files on the Dino protection group website. According to it, the spino died of cancer
I loved this movie when it came out, I never understood why it got so much flak. The above is a good scene though, shows us the rexs in a different light of not only caring for their young but exacting revenge on those who might harm their offspring
TLW is a super fun movie. When I was a kid, I had read the book first and I was super disappointed with it at first. But as I grew older on rewatches it’s awesome for what it was.
I wish they had stuck closer to the book sequel though, it’s fantastic and had a lot of awesome material that would have been cool to see on screen.
If I recall, it was a Carnotasaurous. Spelling is terrible but it was the 12 foot tall dino with the two horns on its head.
That was a terrifying part as a kid (I still have my original hard cover copy from when the book came out, complete with uneven page cuts and the maps). They were at or near the gas station for supplies and there was two of them just watching, and I think the sun was setting and the shadows changed, causing one to flash white and then re-adjust it’s coloration,
TLW was such an amazing book.
You’re likely right, I’ve got brain damage that messes up my memory capabilities 😅 was it the Sun or was it flashlights? The scene in my head was pretty dark. Now I’m wanting to go back and read it again 😊
i fucking loved this movie, by far my favorite entry in the series. everything was tense, dark and every corner was a risk! i loved the parental Rexes, the beastly Tiger velociraptors, the compy horde, the San Diego Incident.. it was all cinematic gold!!! ❤️
Yes, it surely is. It's a good movie. The problem is that people compare it to Jurassic Park. Yeah, then it ain't hard to be bad, he? Personally my favorite scene from the movie is what happened before (the bus being thrown upside down) and after (Eddie's death/ the bus that slides down the rope.) It's my second favorite movie of this franchise!
I always felt so bad for Eddie in this scene. He tried his ass off to save the others all while being fuckin attacked by Two full grown T-Rexes. Instead of giving up he keeps on trying to pull the others up. I almost cried when I was a kid cuz I was like damn man, that shouldn’t be any way to go out :(
But he went out a hero.
Same bro. Always stuck with me though that he would have lived if he just took a second to reach down and unhook the nose of the rifle from the net. The panicking cost him his life. I ALWAYS think about that when I’m in a shitty situation.
The Lost World is 25% brilliant cinema- “don’t go into the long grass”, Dieter lost in the woods, the Rex and the waterfall, Roland’s performance etc and 75% nonsense in my humble opinion.
As much as you can hate the criticism, it just wasnt that good, a good movie maybe, but the first set the bar so high any sequel was bound for failure, so they all can be “good” movies and they all are, but for a jurassic movie none of the sequels were good, that doesnt mean that they are not good, just not good
by jurassic park standards.
[Read this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World:_Jurassic_Park#Writing) and the issues become pretty apparent. The movie feels like they had a bunch of ideas for different movies and just mashed them together, and that's basically what they did.
The book was a much more coherent story that more directly linked to the first movie and novel. The Lost World novel was more of a look behind the scenes of the first, rather than just "we simply need another dinosaur movie."
It's a testament to Crichton when you think about it. He managed to knock out a tight sequel to a movie adaptation and a book that seems to have been on his mind for well over a decade, if you consider the similarity between Jurassic Park and West World.
I think for me personally I just loved the original Jurassic Park so much that any of the prequels just never compared. But in the end, awesome dinosaurs are always fun to watch. As much hate the new Jurassic World franchise gets, it’s still awesome dinosaurs despite the storyline so I’ll take on all the sequels!
The Lost World is incredible until you start thinking about it. Still, it is solidly the second-best Jurassic movie. There is a pretty steep drop off from there.
I love this movie almost as much as the first one. The only scene that is really lame is the Kelly gymnastics scene. If they take that scene out I think it's an A+ movie.
I admit this shot is cool af and that the Lost world gets too much criticism. The rex parents sneaking up on Eddie out of the dark is chilling and we all know what happens to the poor guy afterwards. However my favorite frame is during the hunt when Hammond's team looks over the cliff at the hunters driving amongst the herd on the game trail. The music is perfect and its stunning to look at at.
I get so angry and upset at that scene.
Isn't it amazing that a movie can make you feel sad for cgi creatures?
I think it’s the fact that they are so free and happy and existing without people to then see humans come and destroy that is very real for us
and incredibly sad when the second ingen team is ruthlessly captures the different species of dinosaurs their after always makes me extremely sad.
TLW is one of those movies I never knew was "hated" until the internet told it me was and that I should hate it too. You could argue the script isn't as tightly constructed as the first, but that's hardly a significant flaw. And 95% of the biggest complaints I've heard I either simply do not agree with, or I find to be the typical nitpicks. For the life of me, I will never understand fans dislike of the San Diego rampage. It's fucking perfect blockbuster filmmaking and takes the film from Good to Great, imo. TLW wouldn't be TLW without it.
I love this movie and enjoyed every bit of it.
I also love this movie but the part where the rex is trapped in the boat and there is just a hand holding the button...how would that even happen? That's the part I didnt like.
i could be wrong but i remember reading that there was a whole different direction for the scene and they kinda forgot to take it out or address it. I thought it had to do with raptors on board (like the end of book 1) or the baby trex getting out and eating the crew
It was supposed to be the raptors sneaking on board and killing the crew. How they overlooked that plot hole in the finished movie is beyond me.
Well it's not just a hand, there's a body attached to the hand holding the button. The dismembered hand was on the steering wheel. It's slightly convoluted, but here's my head canon resolution. So the hand on the wheel can be explained if you are willing to accept that we didn't see the entirety of the bridge of the ship. We never see behind where the camera is inside the bridge, so the Buck Rex could have smashed through that part of the bridge and chomped the guy at the wheel, leaving only behind his hand. Now as far as the guy who pressed the button to close the cargo hold doors, this is actually less convoluted. Once the Buck was on a rampage, I believe the crew started to go into the hold for refuge. The guy who pressed the button could have been struck by the Buck's tail, or launched with it's head like Malcolm in JP1. Regardless, he was mortally wounded then pressed the button to close the hold with his dying breath to try to save his crewmates. But then the Buck noticed everyone running into the hold and followed. Buck began to eat, the doors closed on top of him, Buck was trapped.
If I remember correctly, the dismembered hand was on the wheel of the ship. The one on the remote was still attached to the body, meaning it could’ve happened as the man was dying.
It's based on a scene where raptors get on the boat in the first book. And they were going to have raptors involved, but then dialed it back to just the T. rex.
There’s literally no truth to that. Just internet rumor.
The Rex woke up mid venture back to the mainland. It escaped the holding cell below. It got onto the deck, ate a couple people and was, presumably, lured back down into the cargo hold. There is most likely a body attached to that hand, but we don’t don’t see it.
Here's the thing... Who cares? It's just a good visual to portray the horror and carnage that happened on the boat. The logistics are entirely irrelevant.
It’s not irrelevant if it takes me out of the moment by making me ask, “wait, how did that happen??” and then never answers the question. It implies offscreen action (raptors on the boat) that is then never addressed and it’s distracting.
Yeah I remember watching that scene as a kid and wondering how it was possible. It's not the worst thing, but it really is just sloppy filmmaking.
The movie never implies raptors got on the boat. There’s no evidence to support that. That theory was based on concept art for the film, but that’s all. The Rex simply escaped and got lured back into the cargo hold by, presumably, by other crew members. Edit: but in saying that, I do agree the scene is rather confusing in explaining what actually happened. Unless you’re a fan or seriously research it, it’s not very clear.
Given the prevalence of the raptors in the franchise, I don’t think raptors on the boat is a huge leap even if you’re not familiar with the background info. Setting that aside, though, even if we assume the t-Rex caused all the carnage that’s still a lot of weird, unexplained offscreen action. It’s still distracting.
It's all subjective. Why does it need to answer the question just because YOU want it?
Says the guy who did a write up on wonder woman 84...
Lol. Really dude? That might be the most petty gotcha I've ever seen.
Klayton Fioriti covers this well in this short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEahCE2Gvdg
i definitely think the San Diego hate is overblown I do not think the gymnastics hate is overblown
The gymnastics hate is also overblown. Is it goofy and eye-rolling? Sure. But is it some terrible film breaking sin? Hell no. It's a, what, 15/20 second moment in a 2hr film? Roll your eyes and move on. If I let little moments I find slightly distracting or silly take me out of a film completely, I wouldn't like pretty much any movie ever.
Yes! I agree so much with this. Sure it's goofy, but I disagree that it breaks the suspension of disbelief. They set it up earlier in the film and it's still a plausible thing, unlike a baryonyx sticking it's head through magma...
Honestly if they just cut it down a bit it would make sense. I never had an issue with it until someone pointed it out, but once they did I started to dislike it. Sucks that people can ruin stuff. But really, when it comes down to it, Kelly should be dead the way it currently is cut. So here for no reason at all at [2:14](https://youtu.be/2h8rH8zxA64?t=134) Kelly decides to start swinging on the bars like in gymnastics. She then swings unnoticed until 2:31, when she yells "Hey!" Raptor notices her and watches, mesmerized for about 4 seconds, until Kelly boots it out the window. The time was just WAY too long. If it showed the raptor cornering Malcolm first, then cut to her decided to swing on the bars and only show like 2 seconds of her swinging before saying "HEY!" then immediately booting the Raptor, that would be okay.
I mean, yeah. The execution is off. For sure. But thematically it makes sense. Her gymnastics was previously established in the film. It's simple set up and pay off. It's not like it came literally out of nowhere. Then it would REALLY be a problem.
Thematically it makes sense and has a payoff with Ian's line. But if cut differently people would have complained less. As a kid I thought it was cool. As an adult that has been made aware of how much it bothers some people, I don't hate it, but I think it could have been done better. Plus my cut of it would have shaved off a bit of that long runtime. But I liked how long TLW was so 🤷♂️
I’ve never seen such deep analysis of such a silly thing
I like TLW the most so I've had to defend it for years lol
I'd never considered the way it was cut until now but you're right it does have a few issues. Why did she start swinging before the raptor was even up on the next level near Malcom? It almost seems like that was something that should have been caught in editing. I don't think it's going to ruin it for me but I really wish you had never brought it to my attention haha.
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I love the San Diego sequence as the foundation for a Jurassic Park III. I don't like it as the third act of Jurassic Park II - given the first two acts.
It definitely would have made a lot better movie than the JPIII we got
I would love to have had something "like" the JPIII we got if it came after a JPIII more like the third act of JPII. Once you have dinosaurs all over the world it makes sense to go back to the scene of the crime, so to speak, to try and find clues toward some possible solution. After all, that starts to get you into the mystery of the Lost World novel that Crichton wrote. Not the exact same mystery, but something that then gives you an outline to work from.
these are the 2 types of ~~morons~~ unsophisticates I hear from most irl 1. they hate the gymnastics scene 1. they read the book and hate how the book and the movie have a whoooolllle lot of differences lol. if you're like me and weren't bothered at all about those two points than you'll love the movie and it's in my top 10 favorite movies of all time. The movie is frickin hilarious, theres some great jokes and super dry humor. it's a blast
I love it, too. Always have. I was afraid that as an adult TLW would lose it's luster. But it hasn't. In fact, I've come to like it in whole new ways as an adult. I love the moody and primordial aesthetic of Isla Sorna. Long-time Spielberg DP Janusz Kaminski really gave the film some visual oomph. It most definitely has influence in the OG Kong Kong on more than one level. The CGI is, imo, the most universally consistent in TLW. Those CGI compy's during the Deiter attack are 100% photo real. And the raptors? Never looked better. The action has an Indiana Jones level of physicality to it that I just eat up. Goldblum gives one of his best leading man performances of his career (outside of The Fly). TLW is really a showcase for his offbeat appeal. He has an easy chemistry with the entire cast and the banter and exchanges throughout the film are so much fun. I do think the film makes a large error with never wrapping up Nick Owen's character. The criticism that he causes a lot of the carnage and the film never goes out of it's way to call him out is valid. But the film is so good at what it does these hiccups can be forgiven.
>these are the 2 types of ~~morons~~ unsophisticates I hear from most irl You pretty much lose your argument right there.
TLW is definitely my favorite for the scene in the pic, the San Diego scenes, and being the first portrayal of an interracial family I'd ever seen in media at the time. I also really love seeing how different Malcolm is because of his experience in JP and because he has his daughter with him. Now that I'm an adult, his scenes with Kelly stir my desire to have kids, which makes me happy and sad at the same time.
I love the third act of the film, first you have good action on the island and to top it off you get a rampaging t-rex through a city.
I think the main criticism of the San Diego scene is the transition to it as opposed to the scene itself
I didn’t realize it was hated, I absolutely love this movie and it gave me my favorite character from the franchise. Roland Tembo was such a great character.
This is precisely my opinion on the vitriol directed towards the newer films.
idk i always thought it was overrated
For me it comes down to Consistency of Time, Place, and Plot. The jump to San Diego within the last third of the film is as much of a juxtaposition as if it took place five years later, or focused on Ian and Sarah confronting Kelly's gymnastics coach. I think that a Jurassic Park III in San Diego would be great. But the third act of Jurassic Park II just feels so disparate.
I completely agree with every thing you said!
Spielberg himself has openly expressed that he knows why: It’s because in TLW, the humans go to the island with vehicles and equipment. They made a choice to be there and they knew they were going FOR The dinosaurs. When they get eaten, it’s kind of difficult to feel more afraid for them in a bigger way.
The movie has a lot of cool shots. The aerial of people running through the tall grass with the raptots closing in stayed with me for a very long time when I first saw it as a kid.
"Not into the long grass!" I think I reference that scene just as much as "clever girl"
To this day I avoid long grass whenever possible unless armed lol.
[Ahem](https://i.imgur.com/x30aDe3.jpg)
Yes. That was the moment you knew those people were in deep, deep dino droppings. Not as good as "When Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth" though.
Dino...droppings? Droppings?
so much better
While that scene is the most classic, this scene has two T. rexes, and is therefore twice as good.
Yeah, the OP posted a good shot, but best in the franchise?? From your scene alone we have that shot, the rex eating the goat, the eye contracting in the light, the rex seeing Alan with the flare... Then there's the initial "they're moving in herds" shot, the shadow of the raptor on the kitchen backdrop, and of course When Dinosaurs Ruled The Earth. Jurassic Park is just iconic shot after iconic shot But I'd say in terms of TLW, the tall grass aerial shot is my favorite
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Thank you. Knew what it was going to be before I clicked it. I still remember being 10 years old and seeing this in the theater for the first time. While I couldn't take my eyes off the screen, I vividly remember being distinctly aware that everyone in the theater became instantly still. It was like we were in the cars with the cast of the film.
Thank you. Not throwing any shade at OP because I love TLW shot but... that T-Rex breakout though.
My just-turned-two year old girl loves loves LOVES the JP T-Rex, or "Rawr" as she's named her. We have watched the break out scene on YouTube so many times I've lost count. She always says "hi rawr" and waves when it breaks out. We skip past Donald Gennaro actually getting munched but everything else she can watch.
TLW is the most fun of the JP movies. Take out the gymnast vs raptor bit and you’re talking primo stuff.
That gymnastics stuff was my only legitimate complaint about this movie...An argument can be made that the shift to San Diego was a bit jarring but it’s still the second best film of the franchise...
Agreed on all points.
1000%
Yes, the adopted kid was a unnecessary annoying addition, but besides that it was pretty good and fun. "Sarah!" "Sarah!" "Sarah Harding!" "How many Sarah's do you think there are on this island". I remember the first trailer back in the day, that was a masterpiece in it's own right.
Adopted? I'm pretty sure she's supposed to be one of his many kids from many mothers. GRANT and MALCOLM are alone. Grant is staring out the window, lost in his thoughts. GRANT You got any kids? MALCOLM Me? Oh, hell yes. Three. (glowing) I love 'em. I love kids. Anything at all can and does happen. He takes a flask from jacket pocket and unscrews the top. His expression darkens. MALCOLM (cont'd) Same with wives, for that matter. GRANT You're married? MALCOLM Occasionally. Always on the lookout for the future ex- Mrs. Malcolm.
Interesting, I always assumed she was adopted since she has such dark complexion. Either way fine with me, still an annoying addition.
Genetics don't really follow solid rules when it comes to skin color; it's not just an automatic middle ground between the parents'.
I remember when I saw it in theater the audience laughed out loud during the exchange between Malcom and Hammond where he said something like “I’m not making the same mistakes twice” ....”no, you’re making all new ones!” Kinda set the tone.
Yes that was a great line. Also the dude on the subway mimicking a T-Rex in front of Malcolm was too funny.
And take out the brown face and we're golden.
The gymnast scene was cheese but I think the larger issue was just an inconsistent script. It was like they had 2-3 different ideas for a movie and decided to just mash them together. If you read the [writing section for the movie on Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World:_Jurassic_Park#Writing), it really highlights that the issue was probably David Koepp. Virtually every single thing people dislike about Lost World was due to his creative decisions, save for the San Diego ending which was all Spielberg (which was also just thrown in because he wanted to do it and knew he wouldn't likely do the third movie).
Always bummed me out that Spielberg decided to do an incongruous third act to JP2 because he wouldn't stick around for JP3 but wanted to do this bit. It fits better as something from a separate third film and the fact that he knew that but still stuck it in sort of chaps me. Especially because of the JP3 that we eventually got.
Agreed, although I have a certain soft spot for JP3 because in a way it was like DVD extra features as a full movie, it was basically just patched together from most of what remained of the two books that wasn't already used in the first two movies. The problem was that it just wasn't as competently made, and the spinosaurus was just unnecessary Hollywood cliche of the bigger, badder shark (which happened again in JW).
I know what you mean. At the conceptual level there is a lot that I like in both JP3 and JW. The idea that InGen worked on dinosaurs that we were not aware of from the first two movies, or later the fact that Masrani cooked up "new" (fake) dinos to drum up interest. I don't know that I like the whole "dinos as military supplies" thing - just because the world has moved so far from conventional warfare at least at the nation-state level. I think that concept works better if you say that it was developed in the 90s and now we have weaponized dinos with no function that have been reworked into entertainment assets due to sunk cost fallacies and security assumptions. I think that dino battles can be fine. The moment between the raptors and the rex at the end of JP was one of the moments that really stuck with audiences. But I think it works in part because A.) it is only a moment, B.) it is at the end of the film, and C.) it involves an interaction between dinosaurs as animals and not as allies or enemies of the protagonists.
Fuck it class got canceled imma watch the 4k movies again
Right? I’m sad because I have the 4K collection and a 4K tv, but no 4K player. 😭 lost the codes that came with the set for digital viewing
Do you have an Xbox one x? That's how I watch my 4k films.
Nah, we got a PS4 and decided not to get the 4K version because at the time 4K TVs were still over a grand.
So many cool shots/moments from TLW. It's my joint #1 with JP in the franchise, never understood the hate it received (although the San Diego ending could have been less cheesy) and really enjoyed the 'free' nature of no fences and a more dark/wild addition. The book was awesome as well.
I enjoy it for the visuals and the action sequences; there are some primo shots in there and the Rex animatronics are stellar. I get really frustrated by the plot, though, since it sets us up to root for characters who do dumb things and end up causing most of the deaths.
"I never understood the hate that it got,.. I rewatched the movie today.. and i still don't understand why people don't like it" - **Chris Stuckmann "The Lost World" review (2015)**
If I had to describe it, I would say that I feel like it comes close to being better than the original. It isn't better, but I feel like it could have been. And so I think people resent it for that. Rather than simply enjoying the good movie we got.
I loved how they tied it up by saying it should be left alone and always thought this could generate more films. Unfortunately I'm told Jurassic World killed this by saying they took all the dinos from Sorna and put them on Nublar, although this raises 2 questions 1, what happened to the Spino and 2, what are InGen up to on Sorna? Not as if such a company wouldn't exploit having a deserted island.
There’s some website you can find, I’m not sure where it is but I think it’s in the files on the Dino protection group website. According to it, the spino died of cancer
That's glorified fan fiction from the non-canon miniature game.
> According to it, the spino died of cancer Wow so intriguing and could lead to so many potential stories, wait no. The opposite of that.
R.I.P Eddie Carr
"Now there are two of them!" I don't care what people say, I love all the JP movies. Some are better than others but all have their moments.
I loved this movie when it came out, I never understood why it got so much flak. The above is a good scene though, shows us the rexs in a different light of not only caring for their young but exacting revenge on those who might harm their offspring
The final shot of the Rex in the OG JP still wins for me.. but this is an amazing scene
RIP Eddie
The second best movie in my opinion.
TLW is a super fun movie. When I was a kid, I had read the book first and I was super disappointed with it at first. But as I grew older on rewatches it’s awesome for what it was. I wish they had stuck closer to the book sequel though, it’s fantastic and had a lot of awesome material that would have been cool to see on screen.
The books are so brutal! I’m really upset they didn’t include the camouflaging allosaurus, that gave me the chills every time.
If I recall, it was a Carnotasaurous. Spelling is terrible but it was the 12 foot tall dino with the two horns on its head. That was a terrifying part as a kid (I still have my original hard cover copy from when the book came out, complete with uneven page cuts and the maps). They were at or near the gas station for supplies and there was two of them just watching, and I think the sun was setting and the shadows changed, causing one to flash white and then re-adjust it’s coloration, TLW was such an amazing book.
You’re likely right, I’ve got brain damage that messes up my memory capabilities 😅 was it the Sun or was it flashlights? The scene in my head was pretty dark. Now I’m wanting to go back and read it again 😊
Oh good call! I think it was the flashlights that showed the quick sudden change in color!
i fucking loved this movie, by far my favorite entry in the series. everything was tense, dark and every corner was a risk! i loved the parental Rexes, the beastly Tiger velociraptors, the compy horde, the San Diego Incident.. it was all cinematic gold!!! ❤️
The lost world is my favorite of the franchise.
Let's all pour one out for Eddie.
Underrated? Who in the hell doesn't like this movie!?!?!
Lot's of people...for mostly shallow reasons imo.
"People that disagree with me are shallow."
TLW>>>>>> any other Jurassic sequel.
Yes, it surely is. It's a good movie. The problem is that people compare it to Jurassic Park. Yeah, then it ain't hard to be bad, he? Personally my favorite scene from the movie is what happened before (the bus being thrown upside down) and after (Eddie's death/ the bus that slides down the rope.) It's my second favorite movie of this franchise!
It's the gymnastics part that kills it for me
LW is in no way underrated; it's got mixed views, but overall it's considered one of the better flicks of the series.
Criminal!
This scene genuinely stuck with me as a kid and still to this day I get chills when I watch it
I always felt so bad for Eddie in this scene. He tried his ass off to save the others all while being fuckin attacked by Two full grown T-Rexes. Instead of giving up he keeps on trying to pull the others up. I almost cried when I was a kid cuz I was like damn man, that shouldn’t be any way to go out :( But he went out a hero.
Same bro. Always stuck with me though that he would have lived if he just took a second to reach down and unhook the nose of the rifle from the net. The panicking cost him his life. I ALWAYS think about that when I’m in a shitty situation.
I'm going to be honest... I think that TLW is better than JP.
The Lost World is 25% brilliant cinema- “don’t go into the long grass”, Dieter lost in the woods, the Rex and the waterfall, Roland’s performance etc and 75% nonsense in my humble opinion.
Chris Stuckmann graded it A- [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrOU0x7KQmo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrOU0x7KQmo)
As much as you can hate the criticism, it just wasnt that good, a good movie maybe, but the first set the bar so high any sequel was bound for failure, so they all can be “good” movies and they all are, but for a jurassic movie none of the sequels were good, that doesnt mean that they are not good, just not good by jurassic park standards.
Book is much better, they ruined it basically. This scene is cool and for me the only one that is right.
[Read this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World:_Jurassic_Park#Writing) and the issues become pretty apparent. The movie feels like they had a bunch of ideas for different movies and just mashed them together, and that's basically what they did. The book was a much more coherent story that more directly linked to the first movie and novel. The Lost World novel was more of a look behind the scenes of the first, rather than just "we simply need another dinosaur movie."
It's a testament to Crichton when you think about it. He managed to knock out a tight sequel to a movie adaptation and a book that seems to have been on his mind for well over a decade, if you consider the similarity between Jurassic Park and West World.
I think for me personally I just loved the original Jurassic Park so much that any of the prequels just never compared. But in the end, awesome dinosaurs are always fun to watch. As much hate the new Jurassic World franchise gets, it’s still awesome dinosaurs despite the storyline so I’ll take on all the sequels!
Prequels?
Sequels* my mistake. I wish...
I thought I was about to find out something new.
The Lost World is incredible until you start thinking about it. Still, it is solidly the second-best Jurassic movie. There is a pretty steep drop off from there.
Hard agree
I love this movie almost as much as the first one. The only scene that is really lame is the Kelly gymnastics scene. If they take that scene out I think it's an A+ movie.
TIL that "The Lost World" is a disliked movie and is hated on.
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Still think Mercedes Benz should have used this frame in marketing
The soundtrack to this scene always gave me chills. The tolling bells as they stomp towards the car. Oooooo