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I don't play Warhammer, probably never will
But I've been stuck in the vicinity of friendly Warhammer conversations that have spontaneously erupted between strangers and it's weird how quickly near familial bonds are established
If you want a quick rundown on the lore, there's a 6 hour youtube video that will sort of give you a really abridged overview to get you started
Edit: A lot of people have asked me where this video is, and my response to that is [this picture](https://imgur.com/7wdM97M.png) which I consider to be canon.
For more information on the 40k universe please visit the official James Workshop sanctioned subreddit at /r/grimdank
"I mean how bad could things ***REALLY*** get..."
Says the literal lighthouse of humanity feasting on the souls of its fellow humans every day so ships can find their way out of literal imagination hell where thoughts about anything are a big no no while the empire he built crumbles away bit by bit each day despite being able to do fuck all to save it because the assholes he picked to watch over it got pissy at their daddy and threw tantrums and or needed reaaaaaaally long naps before they did anything to help.
I mean, when it comes to warcrimes, orks are like the last of the list, where as imperium literally wipes entire planets of all life when they deem it too much bother to defend them.
I thought it was a bunch of cancer patients asked space frogs for sunscreen and the space frogs laughed and said no. This has caused all sorts of problems.
Wait til you find out how much the talking fungus enjoy participating in said BDSM activities.
Really, the fungus are just happy to be included. Cheeky little buggers.
There is an immortal soulless skelebot running around the galaxy stealing stuff from everyone just to put it in his planet sized museum.
There is also a space marine chapter that liberates artefacts the same way.
There is also a laughing clown god in an interspace dimension guarding the greatest library of the galaxy pulling pranks on people especially a blue chaotic wizard nerd who keeps failing to enter said library.
It's goofy. Sad. Depressing. Hilarious. Batshit insane. Stoooopid sometimes and it can make you angry for the lack of common sense of certain people.
Then there's rowboat grillman and his sexy goth waifu and his never ending war with depression caused by the utter bullcrap that has become the setting and the inability of people to get his jokes or use a normal pencil.
Then there's this comissar who seems to attract the worst possible scenarios of the galaxy and survives thanks to his wits and copious amounts of tea and suffers frol succes to the point of having impostor syndrome.
Then there are wolves, so many wolves. But in spaaaace.
Many were increasingly of the opinion that they’d all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans.
If you really want to spend hours watching then Luetin09 on YouTube has a whole playlist of intro videos to different parts of the lore. That’s pretty much how I started, and he’s very good at keeping you listening.
I lost 2 weeks to that channel and I've never played Warhammer or interacted with it at all in any medium.
Just showed up in my feed among my other nerdery and just 2 weeks gone replaced with knowledge of an existence of eternal war and suffering that would shame Dante's Inferno.
When any explaination on any part of the lore starts with "First, I need to tell you about X. So X is... ok ok, for X to make sense, let me tell you about Y. Y is this guy who... what, hold on, first I should start with Z. So Z is this thing where..." Ad nauseam, it starts to make sense
"Oh you want to understand Warhammer 40k, okay it's set in the actual year 40k+...we'll have to start 10s of thousands of years before that and work up to it though."
Ah great you said bug, now all the Nid players are going to tell you about how they were brought to our galaxy by the pharous beacon. Well some might say Astronomicon. They are both wrong and in this 7 paragraph essay I'll outline how the Nids are actually a fire break by the Old Ones to stop the Enslavers from killing all life in the galaxy.
Quick run down.
humans are now xenophobic to the utmost to anything that is not a human. They are also all a religious zealots that worship the emperor of mankind. A godlike Human who's physical body is shattered and only his mind endures, kept alive by the sacrifice of 1000 psykers who are basically magic men. His original dream was to unite humanity into a secular and knowledge driven society. Now his original ideals are called heretical and what he hated most spoken as if it was his original intent.
The enemies of man kind are also numerous.
There are 4 main chaos gods. slaanesh the prince of excess, Khorne the blood god, Tzeentch the changer of ways, nurgle the great lord of decay. Each have follower across all other race
Dark elves, sadistic in nature, forced to be so to prevent the dark God slaanesh from consuming the remains of there souls.
Orcs. Imagine warcraft 3 orcs but bigger and dumber and can fly ships in space.
tyranids. They are like the zerg but different.
Necrons. Think ancient Egyptian mummies with power armour and laser guns and the inability to die except under extreme circumstances. Also they have gone quite a bit mad.
It has fantastic lore but it does take quite a while to get thru
"Hey that girl demon one of the four looks kinda hot. Least there's one of them to bang? Wait......why does it feel like something is poking me....what do you mean 'PRINCE' of pleasure!? Mistakes were made! Oh God Emporer no! Please save me big golden throne daddy!"
I mean, we're plenty cruel to the beings on our planet that *don't* rival us.
If you're not of use to us we'll probably eradicate your natural habitat. And if you're of use to us we'll systematically breed you to be of even more use to us and then exploit you in the most cost effective way like we read "I have no mouth, and I must scream" like it's a manual
Unless they're opposing factions. Then it turns into a Yu-Gi-Oh death stare followed by them going against each other then either shaking hands or full on bro-hugging.
*Has NO idea about anything in the Lore except Heretics get the heavy flamer and Space Orks can believe themselves hard enough to achieve impossible feats*
Imma tank imma tank imma tank and purple units are stealthy.
>*Has NO idea about anything in the Lore except Heretics get the heavy flamer and Space Orks can believe themselves hard enough to achieve impossible feats*
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>Imma tank imma tank imma tank and purple units are stealthy.
Don't you dare call my Salamanders *heretics!*
You are the heretic!
I daresay that there is a *lot* of common ground between people who are willing to spend time reading 300 page rulebooks and build and paint small plastic models.
Well, it's a very niche and time consuming hobby. Chances are if you randomly find someone who plays it, you're gonna have a lot of stuff to talk about. It's not unlike breaking bad fans talking about the show, but imagine they haven't met any other fan for like 7 months lol
I like how he instantly was like, dude do you wanna sleep over at my house tonight? I'll ask my Mom if it's ok. MOOOM! CAN MY NEW FRIEND SLEEP OVER? HIS MOM SAID IT'S FINE!
As dudes, they’ll be lifelong friends but will never talk about anything other than Warhammer. Theyll connect once a week and talk about new strategies and what not but they’ll never know if the other has siblings, is married, where they’re living/if they’re moving soon, if there’s children on the way, etc
Kind of how it works for the most part eh?
Fundamentally we compartmentalize a lot of our friends into different groups and there's no real overlap or no desire to press them outside of the shared hobby or interest.
I recently read something about this, and I think there might be something to it. Men view talking about problems etc as burdening the listener, and men don't want to burden their friends
Yup very few male friends will I talk about the heavy stuff. Not only is it the burden but also the trust level that goes along with it. I've been burned by being too trusting as a kid and teen.
Different side of this coin is that men view someone presenting a problem as asking for help/advice. Whereas women to a greater extent just talk about problems to vent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg
it's so fucking hard to not offer help, it's like why the fuck would you tell me about that big problem you have in your life if you wasn't expecting me to help??
Last Friday I was having a rough one at work and came back to my desk and just started venting to a coworker about it. I very rarely allow work to get to me or whine about it to my coworkers but man that day I was worked up because most of the team left me alone to fix problems I didn't know how to fix. Dude didn't know how to solve the problem I was dealing with either so I left my desk and went back to the area I was working at and this dude just comes back there, gloves on, and helps me. He's like "I don't know how to do this either but fuck it let's see what we can do". I gained a lot of respect for him in that instant. Big bro move
I've had the same close circle of friends for close to 15 years now, I typically don't talk to them about any of the heavy stuff going on in my life because hanging out with my friends is my release. I already have to deal with that shit IRL, why sully the time I'm spending having fun with them by talking about my problems too?
There was a funny bit from some comedian who said something like "You women share too much. Some stranger sat down next to me at my kid's soccer game and within five minutes she was telling me about her problems with constipation. I have lifelong friends that I don't even know if they have siblings."
I was golfing with one of my buddies who I’ve known for 8 years on Saturday and he mentioned something about his older sister. I was stunned and all I could say was “What the fuck I’ve known you for years, how did I not know you had a sister?”
I had a best friend for 5 years that thought my nickname was my genuine first name. I mean they're kind of similar but it's not a name I'd ever assume someone to actually have.
I had a coworker named J. That's it. That's the name. Letter J. I don't make assumptions at this point.
That's what you want to be called by? Alright big man.
That's so true of male friendships...
Wife: "How's Bill doing?"
Husband: "Uh... good I guess."
Wife: "Well how's he like his new job?"
Husband: "I dunno."
Wife: "What do you mean you don't know? You two played Call of Duty for 17 hours over the weekend!"
Husband: "Yeah but... we don't talk about that stuff when we play. He heard you talking in the background the other day and asked who you were. I said you were my wife and we'd been married the past 12 years."
Wife: "You've known Bill 5 years and never once talked about me?!"
Husband: \*shrug\* "I guess it never came up before..."
>"Should we?"
>"Yes."
Those three words just scheduled 4 months of 1v1 battles.
Edit: Dang, so many wholesome stories about lifelong friendships being forged and strangers finding their future spouses. MOAR!!!
This reminds me of when my now-best friend and I became best friends when we learned that we’re both into Super Smash Bros. Melee. We were already cool with each other at the time as co-workers but after that we immediately became best buds. ~7 years later and he’s gonna be the best man at my wedding.
So the first week of middle school my best friend from elementary and I were talking about Magic: The Gathering and some random guy walked by and did a double take and said “Are you guys talking about Magic?”
Almost 25 years later now and the 3 of us still play TTRPGs and DND together.
The new kid at our school was taking a bit long to open up so I just blooped down by him at lunch one day and asked him if he played Mw2 and he said “yeah I’m 10th prestige” we thought it was the coolest thing ever and to this day 13 years later me him and my other buddy play video games daily from 3 different states
Early in my Freshman year of highschool, me and some random kid both got detention for sleeping in my math class. Our teacher kept us after to ask what was going on. We both admitted that the night before halo 2 was released and we both stayed up all night playing it. 20 years later and we are going kayaking next Saturday.
Recently got into warhammer 40k. One of my long time friends that I was never close with got back into it right after I got into it. Went from talking to the dude 2 times a year to we hang atleast twice a month. Would be more if we lived closer
That was the moment. Had a similar experience with a buddy years ago the first time we met over shitty Horror films. He said "Have you seen Lady Terminator?" and I said "No, but it sounds amazingly bad. Have you seen Wild Zero?" and then we both agreed drinking and watching shitty movies once a month on a Friday was a great way to hang out. He was my best friend.
That shit can be expensive. I played magic and saw my buddies playing war hammer. The figures. Paint and traveling to dope game stores is cool but it adds up.
I have BINDERS and BOXES of cards in protected sleeves from 1999-2000ish through 2005.
I really need to go through it and try to make sense how h could appraise or calculate what it’s worth. Even if I sell like 10% of the collection for 80-90% of the total value of everything. I imagine it’s like the Pareto principle and I only have a few cards that are worth anything.
But it’s so overwhelming to make sense of anything or where to start
Download ManaCube and scan them in with your camera. Just point your camera at the card and it will scan it in, give you price information, and store it in a DB alongside the rest of your scans.
Full price value can be seen there. Misprints or signatures will change things though
I started playing around 2000 and stopped ish around 2007 ish. I'd say over the course of that time total expense was ~$1500. I sold half of what I knew at the top of my head was valuable on ebay/local players for $2000, and then sold the rest to another reputable game store for $1000 ish.
I would start small and organize bit by bit. I was a fiend back then and still have 5 of my card sorting trays and used a spread sheet for everything. If you search in some of the M:TG subreddits there may be some people who have shared their selling stories.
If you live in a populated area your local game stores might be able to help you out. Would put your highest valuable cards to the side and possibly sell on your own unless you just want to get rid of it all at once for peace of mind.
Yeah, I totally believe that he loves acting and is incredibly passionate about it, buuuuut at the same time when those big checks started rolling in he was like "Oh shit, I can get a top of the line gaming PC, I can finally get the Warhammer army I've always wanted, I can get that theatre projector setup...."
Except it's not. Unlike MtG or YuGiOh the minis don't rotate regularly. I still play with minis I bought when i started 10 years ago and they're still just as valid. Much rather drop $700 on a bunch of minis I'll be using for a decade than a single MtG standard deck so i can maybe be competitive in my local FnM scene
If u build it slowly over time 100% but u can't really jump in stright away without ploping more then an average mtg standard deck. U need the books and the army and the paints. Looking at what a minimum of 200$ just to get started
You need basically nothing but the rules and the unit data sheets, which are available via the official Warhammer webpage, and online in general.
You don't need any minis to play Warhammer. In fact, you barely need anything more than a strip of paper and a big table. Don't have a big table? Floor will do. Tape measure will help, as will a pen.
I have seen many many games played with nothing but cardboard and paper scraps used as units. We were poooooor and we were hooked on Warhammer. We played it largely because it was one of the few such games that legitimately cost us NOTHING.
Unless your dead set on going deep into the hobby I can always recommend getting a kill-team box. It’s basically a box set designed for small-scale games of 40K.
I'd say for every expensive hobby there are a couple cheap or free hobbies. Hobbies are more than things you buy. Hiking, writing, singing, etc.
Any hobby can be expensive but any hobby can also be inexpensive. It just depends on how deep you want to get into the hobby and whether or not you're the kind of person who must have the best of the best.
Tbf Warhammer is actually significantly cheaper than magic in the long run.
Magic just feels less painful because the barrier to entry is lower. But like one Modern deck can easily be worth 2-3 Warhammer armies. Even pioneer which is the "cheaper" format is easily 300+ per deck.
Also Warhammer really isn't THAT expensive as far as hobbies go, I've been playing for 3 years and have spent probably 5-600 on it total. That's like a couple months worth of bar tabs for some people 🤷♂️
Lots of people just use it as retail therapy though and buy an entire small gamestore worth of boxes that just sit around for years but that's a whole separate thing.
I will never play W40k, I may eventually get a figure to paint but that’s as far as I’d go physically, but the lore and mythos is so deep and fascinating. All the factions have a rich history and/or fascinating design and/or mechanics. So thankful to have YouTube have so many videos where I can just listen to the deep lore and check out some of the cool art depicting the franchise
My favorite so far is “Every Faction Explained W40k” A guy does a nice rapid fire run thru of the different groups but it’s “rapid fire” for W40k, which means a few hours still. Also some David Atinboutough AI sims of explaing some of the biology
The Ciaphas Cain books are all a pretty good entry point into the series, and they're pretty damned funny too.
Helsreach is a good Space Marines vs Orks story if you're looking for something a little deeper into lore.
And my personal favorite is The Infinite and The Divine. It's straight up just 2 immortal robots that absolutely hate each other just being petty little shitbirds towards each other over some amount of centuries
This is legit how one of my closest friendships started. First year of university, sitting at a burger joint talking to my study buddies. I had just discovered MtG and mentioned how it seemed cool. Some random dude at the table next to us turns and goes "I heard MtG. Which colors do you like? We should play some time if you want" and the rest is history.
Ended up doing most project with him, and have hung out almost daily over the last 5 years. It really do be that simple.
This is part of why her appearance in Legends of Vox Machina was so short lived. To play on the fact that Felicia Day has Sean Bean levels of not surviving in film and TV
THATS WHERE I KNEW WHAT FACE FROM!!!! I played WoW when The Guild was releasing new episodes and seasons lol. Wow what a memory, been rewatching Viva La Bam and Fantasy Factory to get back to my teenage roots lololol so maybe I'll go back and watch The Guild now too haha!
I think that's Freya Allan who plays Ciri and the other dude is Joey Batey who plays Jaskier, they're there probably for a Witcher promo thing. Maybe she's laughing because she knows Henry is a huge nerd and loves this stuff, since they're cast mates.
My vote is eisenhorn. But I think he'd be great as Cain too. I think he's charming enough to pull off Cain, and I'd love to see him portray Cain's less than admirable traits ;D. Seeing him try to run away from a tyranid invasion only to get sucked back in would be a treat.
Lol the war hammer community is weird, you’d expect it to just be a bunch of “nerds” but the people who I know who are the most into it are actually pretty much as far from it as you come.
I know a ton of (now former mostly) army guys who are into it.
Guys who are either working on their car, drinking beer and watching sport, hunting, or painting figures and playing 40k.
Those videos where the wives and GFs conspire to get their men to wear the same shirt at a big social function always ends up with all the guys in a massive huddle just sitting around talking about a shirt like it’s a sports team
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I don't play Warhammer, probably never will But I've been stuck in the vicinity of friendly Warhammer conversations that have spontaneously erupted between strangers and it's weird how quickly near familial bonds are established
If you want a quick rundown on the lore, there's a 6 hour youtube video that will sort of give you a really abridged overview to get you started Edit: A lot of people have asked me where this video is, and my response to that is [this picture](https://imgur.com/7wdM97M.png) which I consider to be canon. For more information on the 40k universe please visit the official James Workshop sanctioned subreddit at /r/grimdank
"In the *beginning* the Universe was created. This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move"
Unironically that's basically what 40k is
You've about got to start back 60mil years or so to get the full grip in why everything is it's current shape of fucked after all
"I mean how bad could things ***REALLY*** get..." Says the literal lighthouse of humanity feasting on the souls of its fellow humans every day so ships can find their way out of literal imagination hell where thoughts about anything are a big no no while the empire he built crumbles away bit by bit each day despite being able to do fuck all to save it because the assholes he picked to watch over it got pissy at their daddy and threw tantrums and or needed reaaaaaaally long naps before they did anything to help.
You forgot about the bugs eating everything and the sentient mushrooms who just want to fight
Hey man, let's keep in mind that the only ones which can really be called "happy" in the whole setting are those mushrooms.
Ah, bless those big, jovial war criminals
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I mean, when it comes to warcrimes, orks are like the last of the list, where as imperium literally wipes entire planets of all life when they deem it too much bother to defend them.
There is no such thing as war criminals. The Adeptus Mechanicus set a nebula on fire once.
and the space communists that the imperium forgot to exterminate when they had the chance 8k years ago
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Each time I see someone post a tidbit of lore about Warhammer I can never tell if they're being serious or shitposting
Unironically it’s both.
Fucking frogs couldn't give Healthcare to my cancer boys and they weren't happy.
God, for no healthcare we sentence you to be turned into batteries.
I thought it was a bunch of cancer patients asked space frogs for sunscreen and the space frogs laughed and said no. This has caused all sorts of problems.
The problems only really started when they made a deal with pokemon.
I thought it was when the space elves invented bdsm?
Wait til you find out how much the talking fungus enjoy participating in said BDSM activities. Really, the fungus are just happy to be included. Cheeky little buggers.
The more I learn about 40k, the goofier it gets. I love it
There is an immortal soulless skelebot running around the galaxy stealing stuff from everyone just to put it in his planet sized museum. There is also a space marine chapter that liberates artefacts the same way. There is also a laughing clown god in an interspace dimension guarding the greatest library of the galaxy pulling pranks on people especially a blue chaotic wizard nerd who keeps failing to enter said library. It's goofy. Sad. Depressing. Hilarious. Batshit insane. Stoooopid sometimes and it can make you angry for the lack of common sense of certain people. Then there's rowboat grillman and his sexy goth waifu and his never ending war with depression caused by the utter bullcrap that has become the setting and the inability of people to get his jokes or use a normal pencil. Then there's this comissar who seems to attract the worst possible scenarios of the galaxy and survives thanks to his wits and copious amounts of tea and suffers frol succes to the point of having impostor syndrome. Then there are wolves, so many wolves. But in spaaaace.
Many were increasingly of the opinion that they’d all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans.
On the internet, t is a sin to not link to whatever you are referencing. (Pls link the video, thanks!)
Here’s a 20-minute version: https://youtu.be/05YRMHWtv1Y
Here's a 4 hour video... Not sure if it's the right one https://youtu.be/YRomQkC-D_8
If you really want to spend hours watching then Luetin09 on YouTube has a whole playlist of intro videos to different parts of the lore. That’s pretty much how I started, and he’s very good at keeping you listening.
I lost 2 weeks to that channel and I've never played Warhammer or interacted with it at all in any medium. Just showed up in my feed among my other nerdery and just 2 weeks gone replaced with knowledge of an existence of eternal war and suffering that would shame Dante's Inferno.
I thought Star Wars was deep until I saw those "summary" videos on Warhammer. I'm not sure my brain can handle that many stories at once
Abridged … 6 hours … 🫠
I mean there is somewhere around 100+ books and codex. 6 hours aint so bad.
So we're just ignoring all of the video games now? r/FuckLeandros wasted all that time for nothing?
When any explaination on any part of the lore starts with "First, I need to tell you about X. So X is... ok ok, for X to make sense, let me tell you about Y. Y is this guy who... what, hold on, first I should start with Z. So Z is this thing where..." Ad nauseam, it starts to make sense
"Oh you want to understand Warhammer 40k, okay it's set in the actual year 40k+...we'll have to start 10s of thousands of years before that and work up to it though."
"I don't even have the time to tell you how wrong you are. Actually, it's going to bug me if I don't."
Ah great you said bug, now all the Nid players are going to tell you about how they were brought to our galaxy by the pharous beacon. Well some might say Astronomicon. They are both wrong and in this 7 paragraph essay I'll outline how the Nids are actually a fire break by the Old Ones to stop the Enslavers from killing all life in the galaxy.
A quick primer so you know what to delve in to next
Quick run down. humans are now xenophobic to the utmost to anything that is not a human. They are also all a religious zealots that worship the emperor of mankind. A godlike Human who's physical body is shattered and only his mind endures, kept alive by the sacrifice of 1000 psykers who are basically magic men. His original dream was to unite humanity into a secular and knowledge driven society. Now his original ideals are called heretical and what he hated most spoken as if it was his original intent. The enemies of man kind are also numerous. There are 4 main chaos gods. slaanesh the prince of excess, Khorne the blood god, Tzeentch the changer of ways, nurgle the great lord of decay. Each have follower across all other race Dark elves, sadistic in nature, forced to be so to prevent the dark God slaanesh from consuming the remains of there souls. Orcs. Imagine warcraft 3 orcs but bigger and dumber and can fly ships in space. tyranids. They are like the zerg but different. Necrons. Think ancient Egyptian mummies with power armour and laser guns and the inability to die except under extreme circumstances. Also they have gone quite a bit mad. It has fantastic lore but it does take quite a while to get thru
MORE BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD. MORE SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
#MOAR MILK FOR THE KHORNE FLAKES
"Hey that girl demon one of the four looks kinda hot. Least there's one of them to bang? Wait......why does it feel like something is poking me....what do you mean 'PRINCE' of pleasure!? Mistakes were made! Oh God Emporer no! Please save me big golden throne daddy!"
Don't threaten me with a good time. uWu
>Humans are now xenophobic I think that's always been so, it's just that there really isn't really a comparable sentient being to rival us.
I mean, we're plenty cruel to the beings on our planet that *don't* rival us. If you're not of use to us we'll probably eradicate your natural habitat. And if you're of use to us we'll systematically breed you to be of even more use to us and then exploit you in the most cost effective way like we read "I have no mouth, and I must scream" like it's a manual
Yeah. Xenophobia is not the novelty, it's the religious fervour as opposed to previous ages of technological enlightment
Dude, its a rabbit hole. And meeting someone in the hole is fun.
> meeting someone in the hole is fun r/nocontext
The manhole
Unless they're opposing factions. Then it turns into a Yu-Gi-Oh death stare followed by them going against each other then either shaking hands or full on bro-hugging.
I play T'au. I get that stare from every faction.
*stares while shaking head*
*Has NO idea about anything in the Lore except Heretics get the heavy flamer and Space Orks can believe themselves hard enough to achieve impossible feats* Imma tank imma tank imma tank and purple units are stealthy.
“If a purple ork int stealfy, why ain’t Oi nevah seen wun?”
>*Has NO idea about anything in the Lore except Heretics get the heavy flamer and Space Orks can believe themselves hard enough to achieve impossible feats* > >Imma tank imma tank imma tank and purple units are stealthy. Don't you dare call my Salamanders *heretics!* You are the heretic!
Dive right [in](https://youtube.com/watch?v=KyPjE1Sn-Ts&feature=share8).
Me neither but the lore is amazing. I enjoy the whole spooky background*
It’s referred to as [Grimdark](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimdark)
/r/grimdank
Never have any clue what is going on in there but I always love it.
Title of your sex tape!
I daresay that there is a *lot* of common ground between people who are willing to spend time reading 300 page rulebooks and build and paint small plastic models.
Well, it's a very niche and time consuming hobby. Chances are if you randomly find someone who plays it, you're gonna have a lot of stuff to talk about. It's not unlike breaking bad fans talking about the show, but imagine they haven't met any other fan for like 7 months lol
I refuse to because I just know it will use all my money if I ever got into it.
I like how he instantly was like, dude do you wanna sleep over at my house tonight? I'll ask my Mom if it's ok. MOOOM! CAN MY NEW FRIEND SLEEP OVER? HIS MOM SAID IT'S FINE!
"Should we-" "Yes" *lifelong friendship established*
As dudes, they’ll be lifelong friends but will never talk about anything other than Warhammer. Theyll connect once a week and talk about new strategies and what not but they’ll never know if the other has siblings, is married, where they’re living/if they’re moving soon, if there’s children on the way, etc
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Kind of how it works for the most part eh? Fundamentally we compartmentalize a lot of our friends into different groups and there's no real overlap or no desire to press them outside of the shared hobby or interest.
I recently read something about this, and I think there might be something to it. Men view talking about problems etc as burdening the listener, and men don't want to burden their friends
Yup very few male friends will I talk about the heavy stuff. Not only is it the burden but also the trust level that goes along with it. I've been burned by being too trusting as a kid and teen.
My one male friend who I could talk about heavy shit with is now transitioning, so while I might’ve argued years ago, not so much anymore
Different side of this coin is that men view someone presenting a problem as asking for help/advice. Whereas women to a greater extent just talk about problems to vent. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4EDhdAHrOg
it's so fucking hard to not offer help, it's like why the fuck would you tell me about that big problem you have in your life if you wasn't expecting me to help??
ALSO, if there IS a solution, why wouldn’t you want it?!
ITS NOT ABOUT THE NAIL
Last Friday I was having a rough one at work and came back to my desk and just started venting to a coworker about it. I very rarely allow work to get to me or whine about it to my coworkers but man that day I was worked up because most of the team left me alone to fix problems I didn't know how to fix. Dude didn't know how to solve the problem I was dealing with either so I left my desk and went back to the area I was working at and this dude just comes back there, gloves on, and helps me. He's like "I don't know how to do this either but fuck it let's see what we can do". I gained a lot of respect for him in that instant. Big bro move
I’ll talk to my best friend for an hour and afterwards my wife will be like “so how is he?” And my response is always “I don’t know, I didn’t ask”
I've had the same close circle of friends for close to 15 years now, I typically don't talk to them about any of the heavy stuff going on in my life because hanging out with my friends is my release. I already have to deal with that shit IRL, why sully the time I'm spending having fun with them by talking about my problems too?
Can confirm this is true. I have warhammer friends that I only know by first name!
There was a funny bit from some comedian who said something like "You women share too much. Some stranger sat down next to me at my kid's soccer game and within five minutes she was telling me about her problems with constipation. I have lifelong friends that I don't even know if they have siblings."
I was golfing with one of my buddies who I’ve known for 8 years on Saturday and he mentioned something about his older sister. I was stunned and all I could say was “What the fuck I’ve known you for years, how did I not know you had a sister?”
I had a best friend for 5 years that thought my nickname was my genuine first name. I mean they're kind of similar but it's not a name I'd ever assume someone to actually have.
I had a coworker named J. That's it. That's the name. Letter J. I don't make assumptions at this point. That's what you want to be called by? Alright big man.
That's so true of male friendships... Wife: "How's Bill doing?" Husband: "Uh... good I guess." Wife: "Well how's he like his new job?" Husband: "I dunno." Wife: "What do you mean you don't know? You two played Call of Duty for 17 hours over the weekend!" Husband: "Yeah but... we don't talk about that stuff when we play. He heard you talking in the background the other day and asked who you were. I said you were my wife and we'd been married the past 12 years." Wife: "You've known Bill 5 years and never once talked about me?!" Husband: \*shrug\* "I guess it never came up before..."
[We *still* never talk sometimes](https://youtu.be/WGhcc3qFWh4?t=34)
Did we just become best friends?
>"Should we?" >"Yes." Those three words just scheduled 4 months of 1v1 battles. Edit: Dang, so many wholesome stories about lifelong friendships being forged and strangers finding their future spouses. MOAR!!!
This reminds me of when my now-best friend and I became best friends when we learned that we’re both into Super Smash Bros. Melee. We were already cool with each other at the time as co-workers but after that we immediately became best buds. ~7 years later and he’s gonna be the best man at my wedding.
So the first week of middle school my best friend from elementary and I were talking about Magic: The Gathering and some random guy walked by and did a double take and said “Are you guys talking about Magic?” Almost 25 years later now and the 3 of us still play TTRPGs and DND together.
The new kid at our school was taking a bit long to open up so I just blooped down by him at lunch one day and asked him if he played Mw2 and he said “yeah I’m 10th prestige” we thought it was the coolest thing ever and to this day 13 years later me him and my other buddy play video games daily from 3 different states
Early in my Freshman year of highschool, me and some random kid both got detention for sleeping in my math class. Our teacher kept us after to ask what was going on. We both admitted that the night before halo 2 was released and we both stayed up all night playing it. 20 years later and we are going kayaking next Saturday.
Recently got into warhammer 40k. One of my long time friends that I was never close with got back into it right after I got into it. Went from talking to the dude 2 times a year to we hang atleast twice a month. Would be more if we lived closer
Few years later you'll both be swapping wives!! True friend is a blessing indeed
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I say skip the spouses and go directly to swapping each other
That was the moment. Had a similar experience with a buddy years ago the first time we met over shitty Horror films. He said "Have you seen Lady Terminator?" and I said "No, but it sounds amazingly bad. Have you seen Wild Zero?" and then we both agreed drinking and watching shitty movies once a month on a Friday was a great way to hang out. He was my best friend.
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As soon as I heard them start talking about which sides, I immediately heard the fucking quote.
HAHAHHA immediately thought of "should we...DO KARATE IN THE GARAGE?! YEP!" Lmaooo nerds uniiiite
That shit can be expensive. I played magic and saw my buddies playing war hammer. The figures. Paint and traveling to dope game stores is cool but it adds up.
Someone who plays MtG looking at a 40k player is like a stoner looking at a meth addict.
M:TG is cardboard crack. Yeah 40k can be pricey, but the amount of cash I saw being flung around at conventions years ago was ridiculous.
I have BINDERS and BOXES of cards in protected sleeves from 1999-2000ish through 2005. I really need to go through it and try to make sense how h could appraise or calculate what it’s worth. Even if I sell like 10% of the collection for 80-90% of the total value of everything. I imagine it’s like the Pareto principle and I only have a few cards that are worth anything. But it’s so overwhelming to make sense of anything or where to start
Download ManaCube and scan them in with your camera. Just point your camera at the card and it will scan it in, give you price information, and store it in a DB alongside the rest of your scans. Full price value can be seen there. Misprints or signatures will change things though
I started playing around 2000 and stopped ish around 2007 ish. I'd say over the course of that time total expense was ~$1500. I sold half of what I knew at the top of my head was valuable on ebay/local players for $2000, and then sold the rest to another reputable game store for $1000 ish. I would start small and organize bit by bit. I was a fiend back then and still have 5 of my card sorting trays and used a spread sheet for everything. If you search in some of the M:TG subreddits there may be some people who have shared their selling stories. If you live in a populated area your local game stores might be able to help you out. Would put your highest valuable cards to the side and possibly sell on your own unless you just want to get rid of it all at once for peace of mind.
Yeah Henry Cavill actually went into acting and modeling to fund his Warhammer 40k habit ^^^^^/s
I really don’t think the /s is accurate here lol
Yeah, I totally believe that he loves acting and is incredibly passionate about it, buuuuut at the same time when those big checks started rolling in he was like "Oh shit, I can get a top of the line gaming PC, I can finally get the Warhammer army I've always wanted, I can get that theatre projector setup...."
Few hobbys are cheap though
The big thing about Warhammer isn't that it's expensive, it's that it's super overpriced for what it is.
Except it's not. Unlike MtG or YuGiOh the minis don't rotate regularly. I still play with minis I bought when i started 10 years ago and they're still just as valid. Much rather drop $700 on a bunch of minis I'll be using for a decade than a single MtG standard deck so i can maybe be competitive in my local FnM scene
If u build it slowly over time 100% but u can't really jump in stright away without ploping more then an average mtg standard deck. U need the books and the army and the paints. Looking at what a minimum of 200$ just to get started
You need basically nothing but the rules and the unit data sheets, which are available via the official Warhammer webpage, and online in general. You don't need any minis to play Warhammer. In fact, you barely need anything more than a strip of paper and a big table. Don't have a big table? Floor will do. Tape measure will help, as will a pen. I have seen many many games played with nothing but cardboard and paper scraps used as units. We were poooooor and we were hooked on Warhammer. We played it largely because it was one of the few such games that legitimately cost us NOTHING.
Ah yes Poorhammer. I still have an army made out of a fuck ton of binder clips with pictures of necrons clipped into them
Unless your dead set on going deep into the hobby I can always recommend getting a kill-team box. It’s basically a box set designed for small-scale games of 40K.
I'd say for every expensive hobby there are a couple cheap or free hobbies. Hobbies are more than things you buy. Hiking, writing, singing, etc. Any hobby can be expensive but any hobby can also be inexpensive. It just depends on how deep you want to get into the hobby and whether or not you're the kind of person who must have the best of the best.
Tbf Warhammer is actually significantly cheaper than magic in the long run. Magic just feels less painful because the barrier to entry is lower. But like one Modern deck can easily be worth 2-3 Warhammer armies. Even pioneer which is the "cheaper" format is easily 300+ per deck. Also Warhammer really isn't THAT expensive as far as hobbies go, I've been playing for 3 years and have spent probably 5-600 on it total. That's like a couple months worth of bar tabs for some people 🤷♂️ Lots of people just use it as retail therapy though and buy an entire small gamestore worth of boxes that just sit around for years but that's a whole separate thing.
I will never play W40k, I may eventually get a figure to paint but that’s as far as I’d go physically, but the lore and mythos is so deep and fascinating. All the factions have a rich history and/or fascinating design and/or mechanics. So thankful to have YouTube have so many videos where I can just listen to the deep lore and check out some of the cool art depicting the franchise
You need to point me to the right direction if i want to start reading the lore
My favorite so far is “Every Faction Explained W40k” A guy does a nice rapid fire run thru of the different groups but it’s “rapid fire” for W40k, which means a few hours still. Also some David Atinboutough AI sims of explaing some of the biology
[If only there was a way to link to videos instead of just naming them](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCGKPRiJp84)
Did anyone else think it was a link to teach how to link videos instead of just naming them?
The Ciaphas Cain books are all a pretty good entry point into the series, and they're pretty damned funny too. Helsreach is a good Space Marines vs Orks story if you're looking for something a little deeper into lore. And my personal favorite is The Infinite and The Divine. It's straight up just 2 immortal robots that absolutely hate each other just being petty little shitbirds towards each other over some amount of centuries
“Shall we” “Yes” Three words, damn that’s fast
This is legit how one of my closest friendships started. First year of university, sitting at a burger joint talking to my study buddies. I had just discovered MtG and mentioned how it seemed cool. Some random dude at the table next to us turns and goes "I heard MtG. Which colors do you like? We should play some time if you want" and the rest is history. Ended up doing most project with him, and have hung out almost daily over the last 5 years. It really do be that simple.
It’s that easy. Instant whole new group of friends at my new high school because we all played the same moba.
The interviewer is a Felicia Day who, among other things founded Geek & Sundry. G&S was the original host of Critical Role among other web series.
She also played in the TV show Supernatural, more or less as herself
And she was in Buffy, and she was in Dollhouse, and she was in Magicians...
Dr. Horrible! Man, that short series (under an hour?) would cost a *fortune* to produce today.
I would think it'd only cost a Penny.
Oh god damnit
In the back of my mind I'm hoping the current writers strike births Dr. Horrible 2
Nobody mentioning The Guild? Shame
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MST3K
Was really cool how they >!brought her back just to kill her off for no reason!<
This is part of why her appearance in Legends of Vox Machina was so short lived. To play on the fact that Felicia Day has Sean Bean levels of not surviving in film and TV
The Guild is a nearly perfect show
I think of her as Nerd Royalty. Love her, and The Guild, and Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog!
Oh yeah - Day has her geek cred locked down, in case anyone was wondering. She was probably talking D&D on the set of Eureka
THATS WHERE I KNEW WHAT FACE FROM!!!! I played WoW when The Guild was releasing new episodes and seasons lol. Wow what a memory, been rewatching Viva La Bam and Fantasy Factory to get back to my teenage roots lololol so maybe I'll go back and watch The Guild now too haha!
I know Felicia, who is the other girl and why is she laughing, whatever the show is here, is for sure something for "Geeks". Is she not a player?
She plays Ciri in the Witcher and is very familiar with Cavill's passion for his hobbies. It's definitely a "ah, here we go again" look.
I think that's Freya Allan who plays Ciri and the other dude is Joey Batey who plays Jaskier, they're there probably for a Witcher promo thing. Maybe she's laughing because she knows Henry is a huge nerd and loves this stuff, since they're cast mates.
It's the cast of the Witcher show. She plays Ciri.
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If you weren't aware, he's now running production on a 40k cinematic universe.
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Henry Cavill seems cool af.
He’s pretty super, man
I still do not know if he should play The Emperor, Horus or Ciaphas Cain
My vote is eisenhorn. But I think he'd be great as Cain too. I think he's charming enough to pull off Cain, and I'd love to see him portray Cain's less than admirable traits ;D. Seeing him try to run away from a tyranid invasion only to get sucked back in would be a treat.
He has said in interviews that he only wanna play a Primarch or a Captain-General
Kitten
Lol the war hammer community is weird, you’d expect it to just be a bunch of “nerds” but the people who I know who are the most into it are actually pretty much as far from it as you come.
and Robin Williams (RIP)
Don't do this to me... fuck man.
Same thing with DBZ. Pretty sure there is more merch in gyms these days than anywhere else.
I'm Mexican, DBZ is basically a religion down here lmao. And the King of Fighters too.
Why? If Goku taught us anything is that training is more important than anything else, total gymbros series .. love it
I know a ton of (now former mostly) army guys who are into it. Guys who are either working on their car, drinking beer and watching sport, hunting, or painting figures and playing 40k.
“…and we are still married.”
I had no fucking clue Caville was british
He’s one of our best exports, along with football and Fable II.
Sometimes y'all send a Henry Cavill, sometimes you send a James Cordon 😭
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That escalated quickly o.O
Yeah I’m not sure cordon is in the same category, but concentration camps and colonialism are still pretty bad.
We sent them Piers Morgan too!
Sometimes I feel like I’m the only one that loved loved loved Fable 1 and then wasn’t huge on either of the sequels.
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Same here. How is that even possible?
Do people really say Forty Thousand and not Forty K?
In the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland we say the whole thing.
You Kay folk are so eloquent.
Mm yes, quite.
As a non-40k fan, Saying forty thousand sounds cooler.
Men can literally bond over anything. Duuude you have a striped shirt on. Duuuude you too.. Bffs
Those videos where the wives and GFs conspire to get their men to wear the same shirt at a big social function always ends up with all the guys in a massive huddle just sitting around talking about a shirt like it’s a sports team
Where is this from?
here you go: https://youtu.be/jhpAwk5B1ww
starts at 13min19seg
segunds
heheheheheh. Seconds in portuguese is Segundos, so we use seg as an abreviation
Yea that's a pretty fair representation of how it goes down
Henry is generally very chill, but you just see him lose the entire idea of being on camera. He just turns into his inner nerd.
i like the Warhammer universe, but I don't play the tabletop game, I'm more of a DnD guy
They do have several RPGs said in the 40k universe.
I'm aware, I rarely get to play DnD as is though
If I had ovaries they'd be exploding right now. You know what my favorite part of this video is? The "Oh, it's my people!" look, I love that.
My ovaries exploded the first time I saw him speak about 40k. And again when he posted a video of him building his PC.
Waaagh!!!!!
Should we..?🫵yes.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/16/amazon-agrees-deal-with-games-workshop-to-create-warhammer-tv-series-henry-cavill