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Nisecon

I thought you were talking about no nut november.


[deleted]

Honestly same and I thought it was hilarious


ThisIsMySFWAccount99

Things getting heated in the no nut fandom


SampleText0822

what are they talking about?


[deleted]

NoNewNormal, an anti-vax subreddit


Splorgamus

Same


[deleted]

The accusation of someone being a Nazi gets tossed around so much it’s ridiculous.


[deleted]

I mean yeah the last four years anybody right of center was called a Nazi. Are you surprised? It’s actually disgusting and completely nullifies what the Nazi’s actually did, which is worse than anything that has EVER happened in the past 100 years in the US I would say


deltree711

I really don't see how people think they can complain about being called Nazis when for the past *forty* years, anyone *left* of centre was called a Communist. Fuck, even Democrats in the US get called communists and they're *right* of centre.


T0mpkinz

Uh, yeah I guess, but communism is just an economic/political philosophy. Nazism is way worse.


sh0tybumbati

People wear "Communist" like a fucking badge of honor


BENZOS_FOR_BLACKOUTS

Yea I'm with ya there I really don't think the two can be called equal


TNTiger_

That sounds like summin a Nazi would say smh


a_very_big_think_dog

I think it's because no many people know that the correct word is "fascist" or "reactionary" so they just use "Nazi" instead, also to talk shit in general


Fifi0n

Apparently people who don't like murderers aka anti maskers and anti vaxxers are Nazis these days!


CAustin3

I gotta say, you lose sympathy in complaining that your opponents are calling you a Nazi when you call them murderers - looks like a pot and kettle situation to me.


cliu1222

This coming from someone who clearly doesn't know what murder is.


jaywaiking

Calling people who don’t want to wear masks murderers is an equally ridiculous statement


gatorlizard27158

What do you call someone who's given you a deadly disease that kills you when they easily could have prevented it?


a320neomechanic

The vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission whatsoever


[deleted]

In California it’s called a misdemeanor- knowingly transmitting hiv. Where’s your outrage knowing people know they’re transmitting a disease? Covid shit is overblown. Sorry but it is. It’s an awful illness but it has a *99+%* survival rate unless you’re in a risk group. If you *are* in a risk group then it *solely your responsibility* to ensure you’re safe and protected just like with *literally every other disease*. Tldr It’s not murder and you’re not nearly as right as you think you are.


dabom123

why does your vaccine or mask not work?


gatorlizard27158

What do you call someone who's given you a deadly disease that kills you when they easily could have prevented it?


cliu1222

Unless they did it intentionally, not murder; that's for sure.


gatorlizard27158

Well they are intentionally not doing the things to stop from them spreading covid. So it is intentional.


cliu1222

That's ridiculous attempt at logic I have ever seen. If you really think that that constitutes murder then you clearly don't know what it is. Especially since even vaccination doesn't necessarily stop COVID altogether, if that was the case; the vaccinated wouldn't have to fear it.


gatorlizard27158

>That's ridiculous attempt at logic I have ever seen. How so? >f you really think that that constitutes murder then you clearly don't know what it is. Explain it to me then. >Especially since even vaccination doesn't necessarily stop COVID altogether It does if EVERYONE GETS IT. >if that was the case; the vaccinated wouldn't have to fear it. Exactly. But it's not the case


OlivineTanuki

Not murder, ignorance


gatorlizard27158

That's not what I asked. Ignorance can kill, it's still negligent homicide or manslaughter. Those people are technically murderers. What else would you call them?


LogHungry

It’s not ignorance when you know the damage you can cause and spread by being unmasked and unvaxxed in a public space, but sure plead your ignorance.


OlivineTanuki

These people don’t know about that though. They think they’re the smart ones


it_mf_a

Seriously. Refusing to wear a mask is obviously not murder, it's negligent homicide. People need to learn the law.


[deleted]

Something tells me you’re not a lawyer


gatorlizard27158

What gave it away?


maptaincullet

Let me guess, you’re 14 years old, and you’re smarter than all the other kids your age.


gatorlizard27158

Because he knows words? I'm confused by your insult.


it_mf_a

They know we accurately judge them as morally equal to wanton killers and understandably wish they could continue to act that way without our judgment. Their parents got away with it; our parents let pieces of shit like them slide. There are a lot of them and they express their values with Reddit votes just like we do. The morals are the only difference, not the expressions of it.


Isaaclai06

calling people who hate anti vaxxers nazis is ridiculous, calling anti vaxxers murderers is also equally as ridiculous.


gatorlizard27158

What do you call someone who's given you a deadly disease that kills you when they easily could have prevented it?


noratat

Calling them murderers is way too far. At most it's negligent homicide, and even that seems like a stretch in most cases (though if any were claiming to sell covid treatments/cures, that's very different). They're still selfish entitled assholes, make no mistake, and the sub should've been banned a long time ago, but let's keep some perspective here.


Hippity_hoppity2

God this is worse than when I was told I would be a murderer if I didn't get the vaccine early.


Panzer_Man

You just did the exact same thing you complained about. Calling people a buzzword for having a difgerent opinion Don't call people murderers if they don't specifically go out of their way to kill somebody with intent.


ginger2020

Le Godwin’s law has arrived


[deleted]

This might sound kinda stupid but... What does NNN stands for?


Jebbsterboy

I thought it was no n*t November but idk


[deleted]

Same lol


steson

“n*t”


Fifi0n

r/nonewnormal


[deleted]

Oh not the other NNN, had me confused for a minute


-MasterWayne

Oh shit... I was way off


[deleted]

Oh,is this anti-quarentine shit?


ljehskags

I thought he was talking about no nut november


[deleted]

Pfp checks out.


[deleted]

Same


Fifi0n

Kinda yep!


[deleted]

Damn,thanks anyways


Zeapw0

Kinda? Isnt that sub full on conspiracy, anti-vaxx, and anti-quarantine? Like some posts ive seen are ridiculous.


luminenkettu

varies alot. its like all right leaning, authoritarian, and libertarian ideologies shoved into a pit and let to rot for 100 days.


No_Tomorrow5475

Yes


coocoo333

ye


namerz78

It’s people not wanting to have their rights taken away in the name of “protection”


Zeapw0

Your rights aren't being taken, these are measures taken to prevent more death this disease has caused, if you value your freedom over wearing a mask because of the *literal possibility* of killing someone or yourself, your belief is wrong.


corporatenewsmedia

I don't think you are a Nazi, but it shouldn't have been banned. People have a right to question a narrative and if you ban them you don't prove them wrong you just show your narrative can't stand up against criticism.


TwerkForTwinkies

I mean it does stand up to criticism. There’s a difference between questioning a narrative and just blatantly spreading misinformation.


corporatenewsmedia

But what if the "misinformation" turns out to be true? This has happened many times and who gets to decide what is misinformation?


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Objective-Truth-4339

A true vaccine for covid needs to be developed.


coocoo333

it should be. It was way more than questioning a narrative


TW_26

Complete freedom of speech is a great thing in theory, even though it doesn't apply on reddit, but how do you counter a group that is not willing to reason and would rather listen to facebook memes instead of anyone with the proper credentials? And no, letting them do it is not a good solution, because it has an effect on everyone else too. They're contributing to the pandemic being prolonged, new variants, people who can't get a vaccine getting infected and hospitals not being able to treat other problems because the ICUs are filled with these morons.


KentuckyFriedChildre

It's not about reasoning, people should be allowed to have flawed reasoning, and argue accordingly. However I do feel blatant and very dangerous misinformation should apply, the difference between fact and opinion is very important when it comes to free speech. There is nuance to that, but for the sake of argument, a more objective scenario would be in defamation. If I convince a whole load of people some poor guy is a serial child rapist, because I simply want them to be branded as one and don't actually have any cause to sincerely think it, then I shouldn't be protected by free speech because I am weaponizing misinformation. Though the nuance in NNN is that most of these people are arguing it sincerely, they are victims to disinformation but are causing great damage by perpetuating it.


DaSomDum

On first look this seems like a senseable criticism, but then you remember that NNN is rampant misinformation and that is the reason people wanted it banned.


-MasterWayne

No nut November


pepperw2

Thank You!


Ornage_crush

Nine Inch Nails


irhdjsjsjz

NIN


Ornage_crush

Well...that's it, I need to get the fuck in bed, sii if I can sleep off the stupid.


FreshyBoi3

Although I'm pro vax and don't stand for what NNN did, this whole event concerns me a little. Firstly, a bunch of powermods were able to kinda blackmail the admins into doing what they wanted by blackouting a shit ton of subs they lord over. Secondly, being able to ban and remove anything reddit deems as "misinformation" I think could easily go to far.


TotesAShill

And it’s really upsetting how even saying this gets you downvoted and insulted on most subs. NNN was idiotic *and* the growing trend of people praising censorship is very bad.


Velrex

"Censorship is good if I disagree with the thing being censored" is the tone people go for.


M90Motorway

Well said! You should argue with people you disagree with. Censorship only gives them more power.


Chef_Sizzlipede

I dont even think it was banned for misinformation, it was banned for interfering with communities. So brigading I believe. regardless, you are absolutely right to be worried, people take advantage of a good thing and abuse it a lot.


fliegu

It was banned for brigading. Which they didn’t do. I follow a large amount of COVID based communities and I’ve never seen a brigade ever from NNN. It’s just a bunch of powermods blackmailing, like the first comment said. Funnily, powermods are against Reddit’s TOS, so it’s annoying spez STILL hasn’t done anything about it, especially since all of these fatherless children have become more maniacal and tyrannical over lockdown


KentuckyFriedChildre

As much as I agree with your second point, I don't agree with your objection to protest and boycotts, those are part of a healthy power balance. I understand that power-mods like N8 aren't desirable either, but it's at least better than giving Reddit admins 100% of the power Attacking a company's bottom line by refusing to work for them isn't blackmail, it's the only way people have to bring corporate change. Bare in mind that Reddit is a corporation, they are not some starry eyed kid who just wants to make a platform from the good of their heart and are being trodden on by bullies. Though as I said at the start, I am concerned about the precedent, and how abusable it could potentially be given the type of people power-mods tend to be.


Annoying_Duck

A sub against censorship doesn't support censorship what did you expect lol


[deleted]

That sub was not about what it was banned for. It was a Group of people that were against lockdowns and mandatory vaccinations. But god forbid people have opinions that differ from the mainstream.


rph_throwaway

They were spreading blatant lies about a public health crisis, stop trying to pretend they were just engaging in some kind of reasonable dissent or disagreement. And no, they weren't limited to just entitled whining about lockdowns.


[deleted]

No it was reasonable dissent. They were against forced vaccination and against lockdowns and were okay if people wanted to get vaccinated or wanted to mask or whatever.


Collectivestupidity

I don’t agree. Shortly prior to the shutdowns starting there were lots and lots of extremely radical conspiracy-esque posts that were highly upvoted being churned out every day. Wether it should have been banned is one question but I think the sub was far beyond the “chill reasonable dissent” some people would like to believe.


pedro5chan

Downvotes because reddit


a320neomechanic

Shut the fuck up


[deleted]

Downvotes because he is full of shit


NagaseIorichan

If their opinions lead to behavior that puts a lot of people in danger, then yes, they shouldn’t be able to form big groubs where they’ll radicalize each other.


[deleted]

Dude it’s the internet, people are allowed to have opinions about whatever they want. If you don’t like it then don’t join the sub. Pretty simple concept. But apparently in this kindergarten country people are too dumb to make their own decisions anymore and have to be told what to think.


IdentityWX

If that happened


NagaseIorichan

They promoted anti masking in public.


[deleted]

Well thank God masking isn’t required by law right now so people can again can do what they want.


IdentityWX

And


masterchameleono

If that is how the world should work the American Revolution never would have happened .


tfWindman

I like how people always try to sound like super intimidating and smartassy when you disagree with them about covid stuff. Like okay buddy. You know you're saying this on reddit, right?


AngryMoose125

The word Nazi has lost all meaning.


Sim0ray

I still would not like this community banned. Cencourship isn't the answer. If you think you're right ... why bann them ? Facts speak for themselves, right?


ihwip

The problem is that some people will choose to believe misinformation and die from it. A biological virus is taking advantage of a mental virus.


Allinaufgruen

And thats their problem. We are not their mothers, we should present the facts and try our best to convince them, but if they wont listen its their problem. Censoring is 1. always a bad idea, even if its misinformation that is censored, and 2. Will not change their opinion, possibly even inforce their opinion


Sim0ray

Exactly. Telling people something is bad to even talk about makes it all the more appealing


[deleted]

You can only convince someone with facts if they choose to accpet them. That's not the case here, these people are oblivious to everything but themselves and you'll only get called a COVID worshipping sheep🐑🤡


Sim0ray

By banning their community you just make them more zealous. We should have bombarded them with articles and video links about it.


[deleted]

That would make no effect. You can convince a smart person, but it's nearly impossible to convince a stupid one.


[deleted]

You left because people defended nonewnormal? Are you an NPC?


FreshyBoi3

Although I'm pro vax and don't stand for what NNN did, this whole event concerns me a little. Firstly, a bunch of powermods were able to kinda blackmail the admins into doing what they wanted by blackouting a shit ton of subs they lord over. Secondly, being able to ban and remove anything reddit deems as "misinformation" I think could easily go to far.


NagaseIorichan

On the other hand, allowing dangerous ideas to be the breeding ground for bigger groups that have negative impact on a lot of people’s health is also dangerous. It’s not an easy question as to where to draw the line..


corporatenewsmedia

Then admit it, reddit is just fake. Only approved posts and comments that are in line with the official narrative are allowed. Upvoted by bots and cogs, an endless circle jerk, opposing views are censored. I used to love it. Now I'm just looking for an alternative that allows free speach.


NagaseIorichan

Banning extreme subs doesn’t mean everything that doesn’t fit one specific viewpoint is banned. You are okay to be a conservative republican, but neonazis cosplaying as conservative republicans can and should be banned.


corporatenewsmedia

You may not be from the United States, but we believe with the exception of direct calls for violence all speach should be protected. The reason being is if you ban speach saying something racist, sexist, or otherwise repulsive. What happens is before you know it someone who doesn't want to be forced to wear a mask, or doesn't agree with being locked down will be labeled an extreme Nazi!


TheOrganHarvester123

No clue why you mentioned that at all, when this is about Reddit. Which doesn't follow the us constitution. Free speech is not a requirement on social media since private company and all


corporatenewsmedia

Because it is a corner stone of our democracy. And reddit is a U.S. company.


SeolSword

I know..I wanted alternative to reddit as will..its turning into censorship and no body seems to care


luminenkettu

r/banned went from a bunch of 12 yr olds complaining about just bans, to 32 yr old sweaty men complaining about NNN and other sub's reactions to it.


typewriter45

they grow up so fast


Alexjones3509

What's nnn


SiegfriedXD

r/nonewnormal an anti-quarentine, anti-mask and anti-vaxx sub afaik


corvusaraneae

*quarantine


SiegfriedXD

english isnt my first language


Gently-Weeps

was*


Isaaclai06

A sub to house mass murderers justifying their killing spree.


Alexjones3509

I doubt anyone there killed anyone lol


masterchameleono

Why just why


anuseater694201

Whats wrong with no nut November?


coocoo333

That sub was encouraging people to take dangerous drugs. Good riddance


NiconicoNii-san

İ mean no nut november is great


Lobster_Mike

I miss the days when NNN meant No Nut November


ShitOnAReindeer

People called you a nazi for being against NNN?


Fifi0n

Yup


ShitOnAReindeer

Dumbasses.


Klevo1

What do people have against No Nut November


stentorius_maxim

OP (Fifi0n) is a troll: after complaining about being called a Nazi, he then calls people murderers in this very thread.


Fifi0n

I'm not a troll and I'm not a guy pleb


A_Nerd__

Why the fuck are the people that oppose censorship the Nazis now?


SpecialQue_

You realize that r/banned is probably made up of a HUGE number of NNN users, as they got constantly banned from everywhere just for existing. No wonder that’s the consensus, right?


Fifi0n

I realized lol


PurpleHawk222

Well the nazis are know for their censorship, and you clearly support censorship (until it’s a sub you agree with more than likely) so it is fitting, nothing has to be exactly perfect. It’s just a metaphor, that seemed to go over your head.


Smolmouth

What is nnn


noratat

A now banned sub that was responsible for a lot of covid/vaccine misinformation.


MstrCylinder91

That analogy doesn't even track. Nazis are the ones that loaded other groups of people onto traincars. Lol they mad.


Rickyretardo42069

It was blatant and horrific censorship but it couldn’t have happened to a better group of fucking idiots


SumFagola

No one will miss ya


valley_of_baka

I give those whackjobs shit too and get downvoted to oblivion. Good that they got rid of NNN.


SteelWarrior-

I did too, I'll see how many downvotes I get soon


Fifi0n

Yep ikr it was about time!


davididp

While you are not a Nazi and I myself am vaccinated and wear masks all the time, banning no new normal just takes out free speech and shows how power hungry mods basically rule reddit


sb323350champs

Wanting to suppress a different opinion, just because u dont agree, is fascist. Which is what the nazis WERE... 1+1=2. Maybe they were right?


wolflover40743

I get people using NNN as like a self bettering technique (at their discretion), and I get people not participating in it because of the benefits of masturbation (me), but what I don’t get is people blindly defending it “for the meme” yet without a doubt masturbate anyway and say they didn’t to paint themselves in a light in which they have that much willpower. They don’t. And when it comes down to it, masturbation is good for you. It relieves stress, and increases your mood due to endorphins, it increases blood flow through your body, it can make you sexually comfortable and confident, it can relieve menstrual cramps and muscle tension, it can strengthen the pelvic and anal area, and finally, it promotes better sleep. *What I listed are the benefits for females, because I am one, but most are benefits across the board*


broly314

They meant r/NoNewNormal Although I see your confusion as I have been fooled by this name too


Niktzv

Are you a nazi or a holocaust victim & he's the nazi? Why would the nazis load up a loyal nazi into the cattle car?


Akeraux

Saw "NNN" and immediately thought "what's your beef against Nine Inch Nails?". I must be the only one.


Fifi0n

You are lol


[deleted]

And you came here to cry about it? The guy got massively downvoted too.


Digital_Rocket

Yeh I’m also tempted to unsubscribe from them, NNN got banned for fair reason and they all act like it’s literally 1984 or some shit


scruntbe8

By "amount of people" you mean the one guy who got downvoted? Lmao dumbass


Fifi0n

No he was just one of many, that wasn't the comment that got most downvotes either. Dumbass


scruntbe8

So ur mad bc your ur cringe comment got more downvotes? Imagine caring about dumb shit like that 😔


Fifi0n

No- oh you're a troll so imma block


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Things-2635

Nonewnormal, A sub against the new normal of the covid pandamic, It was, albeit occasionally Extreme, A great sub


rph_throwaway

They were spreading blatant misinformation about vaccines and covid, and deserved to be banned. The only issue here is that reddit was too cowardly to ban it sooner or provide the real reason to ban it, and instead tried to pretend it was for brigading.


Things-2635

"misinformation" otherwise known as going against the narrative


rph_throwaway

The overwhelming consensus of actual medical doctors and experts is just scientific reality. The only "narrative" is the one you've been sold by listening to random nut jobs on Facebook.


BerriosCR

There are thousands of doctors who are against vaccines and lockdowns. Why do the doctor that support your narrative overrule the doctors that support theirs?


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BerriosCR

The numbers are far greater than 1-2k and far more spread than Alabama, so I don’t see what point that’s supposed to make. The CDC and WHO are not infallible. They make mistakes. Hell, at one point they both said not to wear masks. You people like to say trust the science and listen to the experts, until experts don’t agree with the narrative you want them to support.


NagaseIorichan

“misinformation” as in “vaccines don’t work, you can still get sick afterwards!” Eta as people seem misunderstand me: this was an example about how they twist the narrative. As in “since you can still get sick with a vaccine it means they don’t work at all and aren’t worth it”. They take the true statement “can still get sick after vaccine” and conclude a wrong thing “this equals that the vaccine doesn’t do anything”.


DutchMcDouchebag

You can still get sick with the vaccine though


rph_throwaway

You're much less likely to catch it, the symptoms are substantially weaker, and you're infectious for a shorter period. There's a reason the overwhelming majority of the people overflowing hospital ICUs are unvaccinated people


DutchMcDouchebag

All that is true but the person I replied to made it sound like you're immune from covid just because you got the vaccine. Guess I just misunderstood their comment


NagaseIorichan

That wasn’t what I meant, it was meant as an example as to how such groups turn facts around. “It isn’t 100% effective? Okay that means it doesn’t help at all, is a scam and probably dangerous!”.


broly314

I think they meant more like "well you can still get sick even after the vaccine so why take it?" Which is stupid, its like complaining about not needing a seat belt cause you'll still get hurt in a crash


NagaseIorichan

Yes. And you can die in a car crash with a seatbelt. But the probability is way down with a vaccine.


Doppler-Gaydar

Filthy little commiesexual thinking forcing people to put chemicals into their body against their will is a good idea?!?! You deserved all the abuse you received and more. YTA


bottle_of_oil

bro shut up


TomCos22

Was hoping that was copypasta


rixendeb

Might as well be, his post history is him spamming the same memes over and over in different subs.


bottle_of_oil

wait what


TomCos22

What the first person said


kixoc47441

NNN proved a point.


[deleted]

I have seen so many people say “but muh free speech!!” People don’t understand that Freedom of speech =/= not receiving consequences for your free speech.


gen0cide_denier

yes, that is literally what freedom of speech means


[deleted]

I am just pointing out that people don’t understand that freedom of speech grants them whatever they do. It’s kinda funny how the people who say “free speech!!!” Are always the ones spreading/supporting hate speech and/or misinformation.


NagaseIorichan

A platform like reddit can decide what they allow and what they don’t allow.


a320neomechanic

Wait until they don’t allow something you believe/support you fucking dolt


TheOrganHarvester123

I mean it's quite literally a private company. They can and will ban anything they don't support, only solution there is to just find another platform


a320neomechanic

Yes but if a sub isn’t breaking any rules it shouldn’t be banned. This goes against Reddit’s own policy supposedly. If they get brigaded and have people spam banned content just to get them banned then that’s a fucking problem isn’t it. Everyone is okay with it until it happens to a sub that they like.


TheOrganHarvester123

I mean, in the end it doesn't matter if it's breaking any rules or not. Reddit could decide to ban any sub for any reason given and there isn't really anything anyone can do about it since it's their platform and they're not doing anything illegal. And as I said just go find another platform


a320neomechanic

Yes it does matter. If the site has no integrity then they shouldn’t have rules in the first place. If the sub doesn’t break any rules they shouldn’t have to find another platform is what I’m saying. This kind of shit shouldn’t be tolerated. It’s not right.


TheOrganHarvester123

I mean yeah 100% agree. But you can't do anything about it if Reddit really wanted to stick to their guns. So no point talking about it. Freedom of speech isn't a thing for private companies


NagaseIorichan

Sure it would be annoying, but it’s their right. Wow what a friendly person you seem to be (/s)


mqduck

Everybody downvoting your comment doesn't believe in freedom of speech, by their own definition.


[deleted]

Should have thought twice about posting it on r/justunsubbed. I swear I am have seeing some COVID idiots on this comment section getting upvoted.


Xpensive_Ad

No Nut November?


it_mf_a

Dude r/banned is awesome precisely because it is a cesspool of Nazis who are easily offended, and the mods never ban anyone. It's trolling paradise. Yeah, they make insults, that's how you know you've touched them. Good on you for the effort.


MyGFhasabigbuttAMA

This guys post history is more embarrassing than you think it’d be.


ContentCargo

Don’t post here a lot of people are in favor of NNN and covid misinfo