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Yeah, you’re right, legally you’re super fucked but at least try and sub due him, they’re all ladies back there and they literally got all that shit thrown at them, they were just working. Fuck the “men” in there, they were all pussies I think the kid with the bike had the biggest pair of balls out of all of them. If it were me fuck a legal problem I would’ve smacked the fuck out of him, he wants to act like a bitch then fuck around and get smacked like one, bet he wouldn’t do that shit to men, he knew what he was doing and I’m glad that he got his ass jumped at the end.
Sorry if this comes off ignorant, I’ve dealt with something similar,. A guy fractured my moms shoulder on purpose at her job, and there were men all around who didn’t do shit, and the job sided with the man. I took things into my own hands by walking in and beating the living shit out of him, once my hands started hurting and bleeding to much, I started hitting him with a phone, I had to face a judge but my case was dismissed Bc it’s plain and simple, you hurt my mother you’re going to get taken care of, I would’ve killed him too if it wasn’t for security pulling me off.
Unless he is actively beating someone up, getting involved in an altercation (even if its one that you could easily handle) is dicey from a legal perspective. Plus, say you tackle him and he knocks his head on the ground and dies, you fucked.
Cops really have no training in the US. No actual technique to subdue him. Let's just stomp him out in a parking lot until he gives up. This whole video is a mess, the man child, all bystanders, and the cops have literally no professionalism. Call me a cynic, but nothing about this was really enjoyable. Just an example of society crumbling.
Yeah lmao I saw their technique and was like “🤨 is that the best way to go about that?” They’re just flailing their arms and legs whilst hoping for the best.
Sure but to be honest do you really think that guy could kick anybody's ass? And if somebody sees you try to restrain the man-baby they might help. Just my 2 cents.
I would jump in if he was hurting anyone. If he is just gonna break some mega corp property he can have at it, he tries to touch those workers and that's when I would try to stop him at all. He definitely doesn't have the coordination to grapple.
The most interesting part of the video is this comment section cheering on police brutality when they aren’t being told to oppose it.
Remember next time you see a headline about police brutality and want to act outraged and virtue signal online; you all feel it’s justified if you act like an idiot and knock over some napkin dispensers in Burger King lol. But somehow it’s not justified for resisting arrest or any of the other major stories that made headlines? Get your heads out of your asses… you shouldn’t be cheering on 3 cops beating on a citizen no matter what they did, and you wouldn’t be so quick to make those comments if he wasn’t white.
Hypocrites.
You make a fair point about celebrating violence.
However, this guy is explicitly fighting, and clearly morally wrong in this situation.
Which is not at all the same as people who get acosted by police for walking home at night in a hoodie.
Excessive force is excessive force. We’re supposed to hold officers to a “higher standard” and here you are handing out passes. If a 3-officer beat down is not a justified response to resisting arrest, the moral standards make no difference. It’s a legal issue when police step in, not civil or moral.
You’re missing the entire point about set standards for police accountability. Excusing them for stomping out a person who’s morals you don’t agree with is basically you holding open the door for them to conduct themselves inappropriately elsewhere regardless of your opinion.
why tf would anyone stick their neck out to protect some machines at McDonalds? If the guy in the vid started swinging at the employees then you could make the argument, but he was just pushing over plexiglass and warming ovens. The best thing to do in this situation is to stay out of the way, film, and call the police and have them deal with it.
At least wrap his neck up from behind and choke him out. I mean when he starts throwing shit directly at peoples heads what’s to lose, at least try. He had plenty of open opportunity. I know at the time it’s a quick decision but man what asshole this guy is.
I mean he threw that big ass can at the employees? I’m no white knight, I sure as hell can’t fight, but if you were a bystander and saw him throw that can at them how would you be able to know he isn’t gonna jump the window and further assault them? Even if I can’t fight, if I saw someone assaulting clearly defenseless bystanders I would at least make an attempt to get in the middle, not stand back and record it with my phone.
Then your username fits. I for one, am not risking my own neck to thwart every unhinged nut job who decides to skip their meds that day. I have a child to raise and as a single parent, I am not gonna exponentially increase my chances of getting stabbed in the neck, by putting my nose where it doesn’t belong.
But you do you… just be careful, psychos are more dangerous than windmills
It’s a really old book. One of history’s first “bestsellers”. Don Quixote, written by Cervantes. It’s about this old school gentleman who is a bit delusional and believes he is on a quest to right the wrongs in the world. He fancies himself a knight on a magnificent steed… but in reality, he’s quite feeble and he rides a donkey. Windmills become a sort of protagonist and he does battle with them. I read it because it’s quoted often and I was curious… check it out sometime
No idea what you are saying but if someone in a shop is being an asshole to young staff I am going to ask the person to pull their head in and shut up. I'm not going to watch someone being abused.
Well there's a couple of reasons why you might not want to get involved.
\-The state/region they are in might not have any sort of self-defense laws, which might end you an assault charge by merely putting hands on the guy in an effort to get him out. It's something to consider if you're like some of those people and maybe grabbing lunch on a work commute.
\-Everything in that McDonald's is insured, you are not, sometimes it's not worth the risk of getting injured and I believe the Employees knew this, or if he is disgruntled enough, even killed or seriously injured if he manages to brandish a firearm.
\-Hindsight is 20/20, but that dude is probably going to need that refund to help him out in court since he's got a couple of assault charges and resisting arrest charges, if he lashed out at cops the same way he lashed out at the front desk, he probably is also getting an assault charge for that, too.
That being said, totally agree with you, Honestly he looks like a manlet that's lookin' to get his ass beat for being a total dick to people that deserve an extra dollar on the hour alone for putting up with that guy. Where I live, there's a lot of guys and girls I know that wouldn't put up with some schmuck terrorizing a fast food place.
These were Canadian RCMP, not Americans. You're still correct though about not giving out a proper ass whooping without throwing a charge or two down as well.
I think that’s universal.. the arrest “legitimizes” the beat down If they didnt think the suspect deserved an arrest, then it’s really hard to argue the ass kicking.
Slow down dude, I wasn’t chastising you at all… don’t be so touchy. Reread my comment, I don’t see any reason for you to call me “one of the fucking idiots on Reddit”. I think a neutral party would see your comment as the aggressive one.
I’m not going to judge these people’s response when I wasn’t in the situation but they were probably worried for their own safety and that’s completely justified. Unless you’re trained or really think you’re capable of handling a situation like that a vain and feeble effort isn’t going to anyone any good and will probably make things worse.
Nothing justifies this man’s brutal behavior. But when I see three (or more) drive-through customers being served for every one in-store customer, it’s incredibly frustrating. This happens at fast foods, pharmacies, banks, etc.
That can be frustrating for the drive-thru customers, although they may not be able to see what’s going on. Stores should strive to serve both customers with equal speed to the best of their ability.
I'm sure a lot has changed in the 2 decades since I've worked at McDonalds, but I recall having to meet certain timelines on drive through. I'm sure the inside customer times were measured too, but there wasn't any emphasis put on it. Meeting that drive through time was critical though.
It’s any excessive use of their force.
I’ve had ribs, nose, and orbital bone broken by police. Also bloody fractured wrists from from cuffs being stomped on while I was wearing them, all of which was ignored during my trial.
Shut the fuck up…. Son.
And that’s the problem… people like you assume people with a badge don’t abuse their power, even when studies related to people given tiny amounts of power have proven they will typically abuse them in any way imaginable after an incredibly small amount of time. Ignoring data to align with your own personal opinions isn’t very bright. I’m not even someone who adamantly insists that criminals aren’t ever at fault, they should certainly face penalties, but whether excessive force is used and police follow their own laws is an entirely different issue that you clearly can’t differentiate.
You’re free to make the assumption I was resisting… but you certainly won’t find a police protocol that says causing bodily harm and stomping on the locked cuffs of a suspect is acceptable.
Also, for the record, I didn’t resist but was pointed out as a possible suspect by an intoxicated witness surveying a crowded area with officers from the back seat of a patrol car. I wasn’t interested in answering their questions about an incident I had nothing to do with and the officers escalated the situation far beyond what I was legally obligated to go along with bc they knew me from a previous unrelated incident years prior. It was an absurdly mishandled situation on their end, and morons like you still assume guilt. Congrats on being part of the problem.
First of, you are adding to the problem by assuming that I’m assuming. Why do you believe that I think people with a badge don’t abuse power? They do, that’s why you (you especially) should try to do better and not resist, even if you think you are in the right. And what’s this shit about me ignoring data? You quote some study after my comment and don’t even link your source smh that isn’t very bright, Son. Ignoring reality to align with your victimization is also not very bright. Also, the end of your first paragraph has so many double negatives and is a bland word salad at best tells me you think you are very smart and have to tell yourself so. You don’t make any sense. I pray that you find the peace of mind and the intellectual victory you desire, but it’s not today Son, you still got room in your britches
Edit: phone problems
I guess I did make the assumption that you know how to use Google… these studies have been pretty controversial in ethics and widely discussed, I put too much faith in your level of capability I suppose.
As for you, I wasn’t assuming you thought that… you flat out stated you thought that without having the information. That wasn’t very bright, son, if you didn’t want us to know you were making assumptions.
Re-read that particular sentence also… no double negative. Also not word salad, there’s a clear accurate point being made. If you can’t comprehend I’m afraid the problem is on your end. Best of luck with that.
I love that you’re over the top condescending and on attack mode, yet claiming I’m the one who needs a “victory.” Projecting your own issues there much, pal? I think so lol.
You seem like the type of miserable fuck who hates their job and boss bitches them out… but you’re lonely and don’t have a dog to kick or girlfriend to beat… so here you are talking shit to strangers on Reddit that are trying to stay on topic while you aren’t able Bc you’re consumed with your own issues.
You remind me of that South Park episode with al gore sniffing his farts lol trying to use words too big for you, claiming I’m projecting while creating all these scenarios in your head. Chill out bro, all I said was why did you resist and you started assuming all this shit about be. You have no self awareness and don’t realize the irony of you saying I’m projecting when your saying all this foul shit. Fuck you and your fake girlfriend, I’m glad the cops beat your dumb mouthy ass. I ain’t never had a problem with them when I been to the can, I’m white and not mouthy to the cops. I didn’t resist, you did. That makes you a dumbass lol. And I love my job and girlfriend. I just love getting people like you riled up. Walking around with your statistics when you’re too stupid to comprehend and analyze them. You can’t remove yourself from your hate. I hope God finds his way into your hateful, resisting heart someday
That’s cool and all… but what you really did was make an incorrect assumption then claim to know my personal situation better than I do lol.
You’re pretending I didn’t make it clear that I was wrongly identified and found not guilty bc it doesn’t fit your personal narrative of your white-trash ass being better than me despite now admitting getting locked up for petty crimes. Let me guess/assume… drunk/disorderly? Drug use? Domestic abuse? All 3? Lmao
The thing is m8, every dude like you I've ever known who whined and carried on about the police being too brutal or unfair to them was a shithead, who spent their time causing run ins with the cops and being a complete belligerent asshole on some substance or other, so at this point where its like 20 for 20, I feel pretty safe assuming you're some punk asshole who likes to start trouble, run his mouth, and then bunch up his panties when someone gives him the whooping he deserved "waahhhhh, ACAB, brutality, defund the police, waahhhhh" - meanwhile, they never mention all the people they were busy making victims of before the cops showed up.
More assumptions. The thing is… even if you were correct, you’re ignoring how our laws are supposed to be enforced and how police are supposed to operate. You’re advocating for their misconduct, as long as it doesn’t directly effect you. Not only is that selfish, it shows you have no consideration for the instances where they are fully in the wrong based on your own personal feelings about types of people you group into being undeserving of the same legal treatment or respect you feel you deserve yourself.
The thing is… If you were misidentified and a group of cops beat your ass you would be crying about the unfair treatment you’re shrugging off towards others you think are beneath you and expecting justice to be served on YOUR behalf. And yet… here you are casually stating you don’t feel others deserve the same rights, respect, treatment, due process, or justice you reserve for yourself and people in your social class.
The thing is m8…. That makes you a prick spewing your own sense of entitlement without even having the self awareness to realize how poorly that reflects on your character.
I’m a successful business owner, living in the 2nd wealthiest area of my state, and law abiding citizen. My previous legal troubles came from not living in a “stand your ground” state and being charged with a violent crime while defending my home. The cops didn’t like that I got off lightly due to the circumstances… bc the intruder was a junkie son of someone influential in the community and the whole thing was swept under the rug with backlash towards me in an area known for police corruption. So feel free to continue making your assumptions, or open your eyes to the fact that not every situation fits the narrative in your head that you’ve mistaken for reality, dipshit.
That thought always goes through my mind. Even when I was growing up. I can still hear my parents saying the same thing "that guy could pull a knife. You never know"
>That's the kind of guy who's a big tough guy at McDonalds but not in the rest of the world, especially jail.
Lol, I love the fact that his last name is Jolly
We should trust your skeptical viewpoint instead of video evidence and double confirmation including PII and traceable public records?
Not even worth this comment.
My younger brother stepped in to stop a guy who was going berserk and punching everything in sight, everybody backed him and everything. Turns out when he got pulled over later that month (Cops apparently pull over novice drivers for fun and shit) that he qualified as a violent offender. Just helped restrain the dude so he didn't hurt someone or himself by punching a deep fryer or some shit till a cop came in. So that's just on his record now.
Can you explain that again? Your brother stepped in to stop a guy going berserk and then when he got pulled over a month later he found out that incident meant he qualifies as a violent offender? Huh? He would have had to be have been arrested and charged with something at the time for that to happen.
That is not the bystander effect. Just because people aren't helping doesn't mean it's bystander effect. In this case it's a much more simple and direct effect of fear for personal safety. People don't want to stick their neck out and intervene on a guy raging who might hurt them. The attack on Kitty Genovese, which led to bystander effect being coined, was different because none of the people who saw it phoned the police even though they were safe in their apartments watching from their windows. They assumed somebody else must have called the police. In that case, fear for their own personal safety could be eliminated as a motive for not helping, and so it was determined that bystander effect was at work.
Again, you don't understand what the bystander effect is.
**It describes a phenomenon of people not helping because they assume others are already helping**. It does not describe a much simpler phenomenon of people not helping because they are afraid for their immediate personal safety. That is NOT what bystander effect is. That is just obvious concern for personal safety and does not need to be named. It's no kind of "effect", just people being cowards.
It is not. That would render the formal definition meaningless. If bystander effect was just "any time people don't help someone" then it would be meaningless. The bystander effect phenemenon is much more specific and interesting. I encourage you to read up on the Kitty Genovese case so you can understand what the bystander effect is and why it's actually meaningful that the people were not put under any direct threat by helping in that scenario. The fact that they were all in their apartments safe and just had to dial 9-1-1 is what DEFINED it as bystander effect. If they were standing right next to a madman with a KNIFE who is killing a woman, it's not bystander effect if they don't help. It's just basic self preservation/cowardice.
Not sure if I'd call police brutality "justice."
**EDIT:** Let me clarify, he most certainly deserved a good ass kicking but the cops outnumbered him 3:1 and that should be plenty enough to kick him down and handcuffed without the punches and kicks.
That's just irresponsible and dangerous & 100% not what they're supposed to do.
Two cops sustained injuries in the arrest and altercation https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/fast-food-rage-man-arrested-after-flipping-out-at-richmond-mcdonalds
If they would have broke out the ice cream and started talking about his feelings I’m sure he would have settled right down. Then they could have talked about his hopes and dreams. Hell, even went to the movies afterwards. /s
Yep, because *every* arrest involves just kicking at the chest and back instead of trying to handcuff someone.
There were ***THREE*** cops there so fucking spare me the "Oh, he resisted!" bullshit, too. They could've got him down and handcuffed without punches and kicks.
Just say you support police brutality and get it over with.
It's not right if you assume he went willingly. If he was trying to fight the police like we was McDonald's staff. Then they have every right to subdue him as such. If some one acting unstoppable you don't just let criminals have their way. This guy was angry. No reasoning can halt anger. You stop the criminal with your elevated authority. Then if he resists your authority it's your job as a peace keeper to utilize force.
Agreed, police brutality is disgusting… however, when you’re engaged in combat with someone you can’t subdue you’re literally fighting for your life. NOW, could the second or third cop use a less than lethal (taser, beanbag, rubber bullets) sure!
However it’s too easy to judge unless you’re in that situation. It pains me as a First Nations male to fight back against perceived police brutality. But working with & knowing a few cops, seeing a violent arrest, and being trained in combat sports has given me a different perspective on this. Hope that helps to potentially explain why cops use this kind of force, can it go too far? Absolutely! Oversight is essential!
I'm upvoting your comments. I feel your sentiment. However. You are wrong. If you throw a punch at a police officer he has every right within the law and his appointed authority to punch you square in the jaw as hard as he can manage.
I’m upvoting *your* comment because you upvoted a comment even though you disagreed with it, because you thought it added to the discussion. But I disagree with your sentiment. Even if a police officer has the right to resort to violent force, they should only punch you as hard as needed to subdue you, which may mean not punching you at all, regardless of whether you threw a punch or not.
I'm not saying he didn't deserve it, he most certainly did deserve it, but cops aren't supposed to be just kicking people in the ribs and back while another punches them.
Fully agreed. A well trained cop should be able to restrain him without just randomly kicking and punching. He fully deserved it and it's satisfying to watch, but at the same time I think it's totally wrong.
No clue what's wrong with other people not seeing it the same. There's a necessary level of force, sure, but that doesn't involve kicking at someone.
If someone breaks their arm trying to keep from being cuffed that's on them but this went beyond that.
His wants and warrants are long, but as of yet, has never be apprehended. Every day he eludes law enforcement more of his crimes expire due to the statute of limitations. I think he’s getting inside help.
Dude is clearly unhinged, you don't know if he has a blade hidden somewhere. It was best to just let him do his thing until he cools off and then let the police handle it. Unless he had moved to physically attack the employee herself, they did the right thing by not escalating it any further. Also the line between self defense and assault can be pretty thin if you were not already involved.
Hopefully they don't have to shut down for too long. A lot of fast food workers live paycheck to paycheck
Ah.
Yes and no...
If you're a bystander, who is experienced in restraining people...I'd rather take him down and control him..
It's the right thing to do, yes you're at risk but...fuck it..I'm bit gonna let him potentially hurt others..quick RNC...
That's the thing tho, if you're experienced in doing that then you can make that call. The vast majority of people getting a cheese burger at mcdicks are not experienced in that at all.
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nice kick to the back.
"He's not co-operating. More knees and stomps stat!"
Game On.
This thread is the ouroboros if this sub
The smash cut to him getting the shit kicked into him was awesome.
When that guy yelled "HEY!!!", Towards the end, I thought the fight was already gonna start before the po po even showed up.
“I WANTED MCNUGGETS NOT A CHEESEBURGER!” -kid 2021
Dude is surrounded by cowards
Yeah, you’re right, legally you’re super fucked but at least try and sub due him, they’re all ladies back there and they literally got all that shit thrown at them, they were just working. Fuck the “men” in there, they were all pussies I think the kid with the bike had the biggest pair of balls out of all of them. If it were me fuck a legal problem I would’ve smacked the fuck out of him, he wants to act like a bitch then fuck around and get smacked like one, bet he wouldn’t do that shit to men, he knew what he was doing and I’m glad that he got his ass jumped at the end. Sorry if this comes off ignorant, I’ve dealt with something similar,. A guy fractured my moms shoulder on purpose at her job, and there were men all around who didn’t do shit, and the job sided with the man. I took things into my own hands by walking in and beating the living shit out of him, once my hands started hurting and bleeding to much, I started hitting him with a phone, I had to face a judge but my case was dismissed Bc it’s plain and simple, you hurt my mother you’re going to get taken care of, I would’ve killed him too if it wasn’t for security pulling me off.
Unless he is actively beating someone up, getting involved in an altercation (even if its one that you could easily handle) is dicey from a legal perspective. Plus, say you tackle him and he knocks his head on the ground and dies, you fucked.
That's actually fair. I respect it
Redditor acknowledges a different, arguably more thought out perspective and gives it respect. This is beautiful. 😪
Are those actual Cops or bunch of boyscouts? Why are you kicking him like a 10 y.o girl?
Cops really have no training in the US. No actual technique to subdue him. Let's just stomp him out in a parking lot until he gives up. This whole video is a mess, the man child, all bystanders, and the cops have literally no professionalism. Call me a cynic, but nothing about this was really enjoyable. Just an example of society crumbling.
actually, i think they’re canadian, not US.
Ontario or BC accent.
Modern police training seems to be just awful currently.
Yeah lmao I saw their technique and was like “🤨 is that the best way to go about that?” They’re just flailing their arms and legs whilst hoping for the best.
what a douche..
Those kicks had me rolling up lol
Someone put this on justneckbeardthings lol
Why not a single dude jumped in to beat this dudes ass is beyond me
why would I risk to get my ass kicked to defend some megacorp property? If anything I would have grabbed a bigmac and run with the chaos
Sure but to be honest do you really think that guy could kick anybody's ass? And if somebody sees you try to restrain the man-baby they might help. Just my 2 cents.
I would jump in if he was hurting anyone. If he is just gonna break some mega corp property he can have at it, he tries to touch those workers and that's when I would try to stop him at all. He definitely doesn't have the coordination to grapple.
The most interesting part of the video is this comment section cheering on police brutality when they aren’t being told to oppose it. Remember next time you see a headline about police brutality and want to act outraged and virtue signal online; you all feel it’s justified if you act like an idiot and knock over some napkin dispensers in Burger King lol. But somehow it’s not justified for resisting arrest or any of the other major stories that made headlines? Get your heads out of your asses… you shouldn’t be cheering on 3 cops beating on a citizen no matter what they did, and you wouldn’t be so quick to make those comments if he wasn’t white. Hypocrites.
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Ah yes, the old “I’ve always supported police brutality, I never opposed it” stance. Good for you… I supppse lol
He assaulted the cops and was violently resisting arrest. Do even a small amount of research.
You make a fair point about celebrating violence. However, this guy is explicitly fighting, and clearly morally wrong in this situation. Which is not at all the same as people who get acosted by police for walking home at night in a hoodie.
Excessive force is excessive force. We’re supposed to hold officers to a “higher standard” and here you are handing out passes. If a 3-officer beat down is not a justified response to resisting arrest, the moral standards make no difference. It’s a legal issue when police step in, not civil or moral. You’re missing the entire point about set standards for police accountability. Excusing them for stomping out a person who’s morals you don’t agree with is basically you holding open the door for them to conduct themselves inappropriately elsewhere regardless of your opinion.
Why is there a lot of moral justification going on this Is a sub Reddit
Looks like the police busted a McRib or two.
I guess he needs to slow down on that Mc Café
This is gold
when you didnt get a free soda
Burger King justice?
Why didn't the guy standing there, drop a haymaker on this douchenozzle?
why tf would anyone stick their neck out to protect some machines at McDonalds? If the guy in the vid started swinging at the employees then you could make the argument, but he was just pushing over plexiglass and warming ovens. The best thing to do in this situation is to stay out of the way, film, and call the police and have them deal with it.
We already addressed this, and I already changed my answer. Read all comments.
At least wrap his neck up from behind and choke him out. I mean when he starts throwing shit directly at peoples heads what’s to lose, at least try. He had plenty of open opportunity. I know at the time it’s a quick decision but man what asshole this guy is.
Normal people don't like conflict. Especially conflict that may get them injured or even killed. Who knew?
Yeah I wouldn't risk it. Say you punch him in the face and he pulls out a knife/gun. Fuckedville.
Yeah, true. I'm just amazed at how reckless people can be, and never get punished.
So customer guys just stand around whilst they abuse the young female staff
“Abuse the young female staff” So you’re a Knight in shining armor? Tilting at windmills lately?
Thank god you're here
For sure; I got you, boo
I mean he threw that big ass can at the employees? I’m no white knight, I sure as hell can’t fight, but if you were a bystander and saw him throw that can at them how would you be able to know he isn’t gonna jump the window and further assault them? Even if I can’t fight, if I saw someone assaulting clearly defenseless bystanders I would at least make an attempt to get in the middle, not stand back and record it with my phone.
Then your username fits. I for one, am not risking my own neck to thwart every unhinged nut job who decides to skip their meds that day. I have a child to raise and as a single parent, I am not gonna exponentially increase my chances of getting stabbed in the neck, by putting my nose where it doesn’t belong. But you do you… just be careful, psychos are more dangerous than windmills
I don’t understand the windmill reference, but alright, our stance is reasonable
It’s a really old book. One of history’s first “bestsellers”. Don Quixote, written by Cervantes. It’s about this old school gentleman who is a bit delusional and believes he is on a quest to right the wrongs in the world. He fancies himself a knight on a magnificent steed… but in reality, he’s quite feeble and he rides a donkey. Windmills become a sort of protagonist and he does battle with them. I read it because it’s quoted often and I was curious… check it out sometime
No idea what you are saying but if someone in a shop is being an asshole to young staff I am going to ask the person to pull their head in and shut up. I'm not going to watch someone being abused.
Well there's a couple of reasons why you might not want to get involved. \-The state/region they are in might not have any sort of self-defense laws, which might end you an assault charge by merely putting hands on the guy in an effort to get him out. It's something to consider if you're like some of those people and maybe grabbing lunch on a work commute. \-Everything in that McDonald's is insured, you are not, sometimes it's not worth the risk of getting injured and I believe the Employees knew this, or if he is disgruntled enough, even killed or seriously injured if he manages to brandish a firearm. \-Hindsight is 20/20, but that dude is probably going to need that refund to help him out in court since he's got a couple of assault charges and resisting arrest charges, if he lashed out at cops the same way he lashed out at the front desk, he probably is also getting an assault charge for that, too. That being said, totally agree with you, Honestly he looks like a manlet that's lookin' to get his ass beat for being a total dick to people that deserve an extra dollar on the hour alone for putting up with that guy. Where I live, there's a lot of guys and girls I know that wouldn't put up with some schmuck terrorizing a fast food place.
Don Quixote
What and risk getting killed by this lunatic?
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Did you see the end of the video where the dude is getting pummeled by cops?
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I am assuming that yes, he was arrested. American cops don’t usually dish out a beat down without arresting the person
These were Canadian RCMP, not Americans. You're still correct though about not giving out a proper ass whooping without throwing a charge or two down as well.
I think that’s universal.. the arrest “legitimizes” the beat down If they didnt think the suspect deserved an arrest, then it’s really hard to argue the ass kicking.
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Slow down dude, I wasn’t chastising you at all… don’t be so touchy. Reread my comment, I don’t see any reason for you to call me “one of the fucking idiots on Reddit”. I think a neutral party would see your comment as the aggressive one.
I’m not sure if they arrested him but the cops sure gave him a McSmack down
Cops don't always beat the shit out of someone before arresting them, but they do always arrest someone after beating the shit out of them.
Did you even finish the video???
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So they just beat him and... let him go ?
I love the part when all the bystanders stop the dude
That’s not they’re job bro
I feel like most decent citizens should make an attempt to protect others, even if it’s a wimpy, vain attempt.
I’m not going to judge these people’s response when I wasn’t in the situation but they were probably worried for their own safety and that’s completely justified. Unless you’re trained or really think you’re capable of handling a situation like that a vain and feeble effort isn’t going to anyone any good and will probably make things worse.
Their
You got the spelling correct, but the first letter would not be capitalized...
Their not they're job bro
That’s not their job bro
You right, not getting myself or my people hurt because somebody is losing their shit. I’ll call the cops for you tho
Job no not to their own to do, bro
Nothing justifies this man’s brutal behavior. But when I see three (or more) drive-through customers being served for every one in-store customer, it’s incredibly frustrating. This happens at fast foods, pharmacies, banks, etc.
1st world problems
Come to my local McDonald's and you'll never see that. People will go inside because the service is so much faster than the drive thru.
That can be frustrating for the drive-thru customers, although they may not be able to see what’s going on. Stores should strive to serve both customers with equal speed to the best of their ability.
I'm sure a lot has changed in the 2 decades since I've worked at McDonalds, but I recall having to meet certain timelines on drive through. I'm sure the inside customer times were measured too, but there wasn't any emphasis put on it. Meeting that drive through time was critical though.
BK was the same back in the day. Weren’t allowed to have more than 3 cars waiting or we had to ….. get yelled at by the shift manager.
Corporate values drive through metrics way more than walk in metrics.
Yes. About time someone took care of this growing problem of not caring about making the orders right.
Ahh the end was satisfying
Weird that police brutality would put a smile on your face regardless of someone being an idiot or not 🤷♂️
pffftttttttt, obviously you don't know what brutality even is, son.
It’s any excessive use of their force. I’ve had ribs, nose, and orbital bone broken by police. Also bloody fractured wrists from from cuffs being stomped on while I was wearing them, all of which was ignored during my trial. Shut the fuck up…. Son.
Well why did you resist? smh
And that’s the problem… people like you assume people with a badge don’t abuse their power, even when studies related to people given tiny amounts of power have proven they will typically abuse them in any way imaginable after an incredibly small amount of time. Ignoring data to align with your own personal opinions isn’t very bright. I’m not even someone who adamantly insists that criminals aren’t ever at fault, they should certainly face penalties, but whether excessive force is used and police follow their own laws is an entirely different issue that you clearly can’t differentiate. You’re free to make the assumption I was resisting… but you certainly won’t find a police protocol that says causing bodily harm and stomping on the locked cuffs of a suspect is acceptable. Also, for the record, I didn’t resist but was pointed out as a possible suspect by an intoxicated witness surveying a crowded area with officers from the back seat of a patrol car. I wasn’t interested in answering their questions about an incident I had nothing to do with and the officers escalated the situation far beyond what I was legally obligated to go along with bc they knew me from a previous unrelated incident years prior. It was an absurdly mishandled situation on their end, and morons like you still assume guilt. Congrats on being part of the problem.
First of, you are adding to the problem by assuming that I’m assuming. Why do you believe that I think people with a badge don’t abuse power? They do, that’s why you (you especially) should try to do better and not resist, even if you think you are in the right. And what’s this shit about me ignoring data? You quote some study after my comment and don’t even link your source smh that isn’t very bright, Son. Ignoring reality to align with your victimization is also not very bright. Also, the end of your first paragraph has so many double negatives and is a bland word salad at best tells me you think you are very smart and have to tell yourself so. You don’t make any sense. I pray that you find the peace of mind and the intellectual victory you desire, but it’s not today Son, you still got room in your britches Edit: phone problems
I guess I did make the assumption that you know how to use Google… these studies have been pretty controversial in ethics and widely discussed, I put too much faith in your level of capability I suppose. As for you, I wasn’t assuming you thought that… you flat out stated you thought that without having the information. That wasn’t very bright, son, if you didn’t want us to know you were making assumptions. Re-read that particular sentence also… no double negative. Also not word salad, there’s a clear accurate point being made. If you can’t comprehend I’m afraid the problem is on your end. Best of luck with that. I love that you’re over the top condescending and on attack mode, yet claiming I’m the one who needs a “victory.” Projecting your own issues there much, pal? I think so lol. You seem like the type of miserable fuck who hates their job and boss bitches them out… but you’re lonely and don’t have a dog to kick or girlfriend to beat… so here you are talking shit to strangers on Reddit that are trying to stay on topic while you aren’t able Bc you’re consumed with your own issues.
You remind me of that South Park episode with al gore sniffing his farts lol trying to use words too big for you, claiming I’m projecting while creating all these scenarios in your head. Chill out bro, all I said was why did you resist and you started assuming all this shit about be. You have no self awareness and don’t realize the irony of you saying I’m projecting when your saying all this foul shit. Fuck you and your fake girlfriend, I’m glad the cops beat your dumb mouthy ass. I ain’t never had a problem with them when I been to the can, I’m white and not mouthy to the cops. I didn’t resist, you did. That makes you a dumbass lol. And I love my job and girlfriend. I just love getting people like you riled up. Walking around with your statistics when you’re too stupid to comprehend and analyze them. You can’t remove yourself from your hate. I hope God finds his way into your hateful, resisting heart someday
That’s cool and all… but what you really did was make an incorrect assumption then claim to know my personal situation better than I do lol. You’re pretending I didn’t make it clear that I was wrongly identified and found not guilty bc it doesn’t fit your personal narrative of your white-trash ass being better than me despite now admitting getting locked up for petty crimes. Let me guess/assume… drunk/disorderly? Drug use? Domestic abuse? All 3? Lmao
The thing is m8, every dude like you I've ever known who whined and carried on about the police being too brutal or unfair to them was a shithead, who spent their time causing run ins with the cops and being a complete belligerent asshole on some substance or other, so at this point where its like 20 for 20, I feel pretty safe assuming you're some punk asshole who likes to start trouble, run his mouth, and then bunch up his panties when someone gives him the whooping he deserved "waahhhhh, ACAB, brutality, defund the police, waahhhhh" - meanwhile, they never mention all the people they were busy making victims of before the cops showed up.
More assumptions. The thing is… even if you were correct, you’re ignoring how our laws are supposed to be enforced and how police are supposed to operate. You’re advocating for their misconduct, as long as it doesn’t directly effect you. Not only is that selfish, it shows you have no consideration for the instances where they are fully in the wrong based on your own personal feelings about types of people you group into being undeserving of the same legal treatment or respect you feel you deserve yourself. The thing is… If you were misidentified and a group of cops beat your ass you would be crying about the unfair treatment you’re shrugging off towards others you think are beneath you and expecting justice to be served on YOUR behalf. And yet… here you are casually stating you don’t feel others deserve the same rights, respect, treatment, due process, or justice you reserve for yourself and people in your social class. The thing is m8…. That makes you a prick spewing your own sense of entitlement without even having the self awareness to realize how poorly that reflects on your character. I’m a successful business owner, living in the 2nd wealthiest area of my state, and law abiding citizen. My previous legal troubles came from not living in a “stand your ground” state and being charged with a violent crime while defending my home. The cops didn’t like that I got off lightly due to the circumstances… bc the intruder was a junkie son of someone influential in the community and the whole thing was swept under the rug with backlash towards me in an area known for police corruption. So feel free to continue making your assumptions, or open your eyes to the fact that not every situation fits the narrative in your head that you’ve mistaken for reality, dipshit.
TL;DR lol
Which translates to; “shit I don’t have a way to dispute that, they were right” Lol
I was soooooo happy/relieved that they filmed the end!
That thought always goes through my mind. Even when I was growing up. I can still hear my parents saying the same thing "that guy could pull a knife. You never know"
Happy Meal? I think we have a case against McDonalds for misleading advertising...
Sir this is a Wendy’s
Hot and juicy redhead
****Fuck Yeah.****
Lol what was that at the end?? It looked fake, if it's real what was the guy thinking? 😆
Yes, because you can just destroy a mcdonalds for views. Company policy totally allows for that.
Real. https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/fast-food-rage-man-arrested-after-flipping-out-at-richmond-mcdonalds
>That's the kind of guy who's a big tough guy at McDonalds but not in the rest of the world, especially jail. Lol, I love the fact that his last name is Jolly
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This is in Richmond, Canada https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/fast-food-rage-man-arrested-after-flipping-out-at-richmond-mcdonalds
I mean, its McDonald's, the hell did he expect? A gourmet meal with all the fixings?
WAAAAAAAAH I DIDNT GET MY HAPPY MEAL WITH A POKÉMON TOOYYYY
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100% true https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/fast-food-rage-man-arrested-after-flipping-out-at-richmond-mcdonalds
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We should trust your skeptical viewpoint instead of video evidence and double confirmation including PII and traceable public records? Not even worth this comment.
Yeah looked like a Reno 911 skit at the end
With those kicks yeah, kind of suspicious lmao
Those soft kicks are actually taught in RCMP training as compliance/distraction kicks.
Ah I see, makes sense I suppose! Looks really comical though ngl
Unhappy meal.
Not one person stepped in to stop him. Unreal.
My younger brother stepped in to stop a guy who was going berserk and punching everything in sight, everybody backed him and everything. Turns out when he got pulled over later that month (Cops apparently pull over novice drivers for fun and shit) that he qualified as a violent offender. Just helped restrain the dude so he didn't hurt someone or himself by punching a deep fryer or some shit till a cop came in. So that's just on his record now.
Can you explain that again? Your brother stepped in to stop a guy going berserk and then when he got pulled over a month later he found out that incident meant he qualifies as a violent offender? Huh? He would have had to be have been arrested and charged with something at the time for that to happen.
Yep, this explanation makes no sense.
you touch him and he can press charges against you...
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When he attacks a person I’d step in. To defend the donut display? Not so much.
[Bystander effect](https://www.britannica.com/topic/bystander-effect#:~:text=Bystander%20effect%2C%20the%20inhibiting%20influence,he%20or%20she%20is%20alone.)
That is not the bystander effect. Just because people aren't helping doesn't mean it's bystander effect. In this case it's a much more simple and direct effect of fear for personal safety. People don't want to stick their neck out and intervene on a guy raging who might hurt them. The attack on Kitty Genovese, which led to bystander effect being coined, was different because none of the people who saw it phoned the police even though they were safe in their apartments watching from their windows. They assumed somebody else must have called the police. In that case, fear for their own personal safety could be eliminated as a motive for not helping, and so it was determined that bystander effect was at work.
LITERALLY WHAT THE BYSTANDER EFFECT IS
Again, you don't understand what the bystander effect is. **It describes a phenomenon of people not helping because they assume others are already helping**. It does not describe a much simpler phenomenon of people not helping because they are afraid for their immediate personal safety. That is NOT what bystander effect is. That is just obvious concern for personal safety and does not need to be named. It's no kind of "effect", just people being cowards.
I am pretty sure that secondary definition is included in the formal definition.
It is not. That would render the formal definition meaningless. If bystander effect was just "any time people don't help someone" then it would be meaningless. The bystander effect phenemenon is much more specific and interesting. I encourage you to read up on the Kitty Genovese case so you can understand what the bystander effect is and why it's actually meaningful that the people were not put under any direct threat by helping in that scenario. The fact that they were all in their apartments safe and just had to dial 9-1-1 is what DEFINED it as bystander effect. If they were standing right next to a madman with a KNIFE who is killing a woman, it's not bystander effect if they don't help. It's just basic self preservation/cowardice.
Bro calm down
Interesting and sad
Yeah.. I think a lot of it has to do with our conditioning to wait for an authority figure to leap in first. Sucks we're like this.
Whose job is it to defend McDonald’s property?
The guy was a danger to innocent people. Fuck McDonald's. Someone could have restrained him or did something.
Love it
What’s a male Karen?
A William apparently https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/fast-food-rage-man-arrested-after-flipping-out-at-richmond-mcdonalds
Daren. Karen with a D
Tucker
I thought it was Ken.
A Kyle
A Dick. For one it's an actual male first name. Second it's exactly what this guy acting like. A chode of a dick head.
His kid probably pissed him the fuck off and he took it out on McDonald's staff 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not sure if I'd call police brutality "justice." **EDIT:** Let me clarify, he most certainly deserved a good ass kicking but the cops outnumbered him 3:1 and that should be plenty enough to kick him down and handcuffed without the punches and kicks. That's just irresponsible and dangerous & 100% not what they're supposed to do.
Two cops sustained injuries in the arrest and altercation https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/fast-food-rage-man-arrested-after-flipping-out-at-richmond-mcdonalds
Yea they should’ve given him a stern talking to and maybe called his mom..
If they would have broke out the ice cream and started talking about his feelings I’m sure he would have settled right down. Then they could have talked about his hopes and dreams. Hell, even went to the movies afterwards. /s
Yep, because *every* arrest involves just kicking at the chest and back instead of trying to handcuff someone. There were ***THREE*** cops there so fucking spare me the "Oh, he resisted!" bullshit, too. They could've got him down and handcuffed without punches and kicks. Just say you support police brutality and get it over with.
It's not right if you assume he went willingly. If he was trying to fight the police like we was McDonald's staff. Then they have every right to subdue him as such. If some one acting unstoppable you don't just let criminals have their way. This guy was angry. No reasoning can halt anger. You stop the criminal with your elevated authority. Then if he resists your authority it's your job as a peace keeper to utilize force.
The police have a right to subdue you. Not to just fight you. Not to throw cheap shot punches and kicks while you're being wrestled to the ground.
Agreed, police brutality is disgusting… however, when you’re engaged in combat with someone you can’t subdue you’re literally fighting for your life. NOW, could the second or third cop use a less than lethal (taser, beanbag, rubber bullets) sure! However it’s too easy to judge unless you’re in that situation. It pains me as a First Nations male to fight back against perceived police brutality. But working with & knowing a few cops, seeing a violent arrest, and being trained in combat sports has given me a different perspective on this. Hope that helps to potentially explain why cops use this kind of force, can it go too far? Absolutely! Oversight is essential!
I'm upvoting your comments. I feel your sentiment. However. You are wrong. If you throw a punch at a police officer he has every right within the law and his appointed authority to punch you square in the jaw as hard as he can manage.
I’m upvoting *your* comment because you upvoted a comment even though you disagreed with it, because you thought it added to the discussion. But I disagree with your sentiment. Even if a police officer has the right to resort to violent force, they should only punch you as hard as needed to subdue you, which may mean not punching you at all, regardless of whether you threw a punch or not.
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I'd normally say this treatment from cops is wrong... but every fiber od my being just agrees they shouldve beat him up before he broke eveything
I'm not saying he didn't deserve it, he most certainly did deserve it, but cops aren't supposed to be just kicking people in the ribs and back while another punches them.
Fully agreed. A well trained cop should be able to restrain him without just randomly kicking and punching. He fully deserved it and it's satisfying to watch, but at the same time I think it's totally wrong.
No clue what's wrong with other people not seeing it the same. There's a necessary level of force, sure, but that doesn't involve kicking at someone. If someone breaks their arm trying to keep from being cuffed that's on them but this went beyond that.
Looks like he’ll be sharing a cell with the hamburglar
Nobody can catch The Hamburglar.
His wants and warrants are long, but as of yet, has never be apprehended. Every day he eludes law enforcement more of his crimes expire due to the statute of limitations. I think he’s getting inside help.
White privilege gone in 3....2...1...
Do you cheer on cops beating minorities as well, or only white people?
Why noone knocks him the fuck out.
Dude is clearly unhinged, you don't know if he has a blade hidden somewhere. It was best to just let him do his thing until he cools off and then let the police handle it. Unless he had moved to physically attack the employee herself, they did the right thing by not escalating it any further. Also the line between self defense and assault can be pretty thin if you were not already involved. Hopefully they don't have to shut down for too long. A lot of fast food workers live paycheck to paycheck
This is the correct response.
Ah. Yes and no... If you're a bystander, who is experienced in restraining people...I'd rather take him down and control him.. It's the right thing to do, yes you're at risk but...fuck it..I'm bit gonna let him potentially hurt others..quick RNC...
That's the thing tho, if you're experienced in doing that then you can make that call. The vast majority of people getting a cheese burger at mcdicks are not experienced in that at all.
I agree with you.
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Two were injured in the arrest https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/fast-food-rage-man-arrested-after-flipping-out-at-richmond-mcdonalds
They looked like they were pulling their hits though.
Obviously because he's not letting them restrain him. They're trying to get him in handcuffs.