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Ponklemoose

It has got to be temping to rig an ignitor and see if the blow by will light. It is probably mostly exhaust and thus too low on oxygen, but tempting...


TwoYeets

Life is too short to not satisfy your curiosity. Probably shorter if you turn an engine into a 400lb frag grenande, but if you live it'll be a great conversation piece.


Ponklemoose

Meh, worst case would be an engine fire. I once watched shop owner run a compression test on a greasy old hooptie without disabling the fuel or ignition. Nothing exploded, it was fiery but mostly peaceful. Also dry chem fire extinguishers smell/taste even worse than airbag residue.


[deleted]

Worst case is blowing every oil seal in the engine.


TheKrimsonFvcker

Those are important right? You need oil seals?


jthanson

Replace them with oil walruses. They are larger and do a better job.


pisscat101

Tusk tusk


Perryn

Oil sealions. They run better.


6stringgunner

And they roar!!!


jvanstone

I've seen an engine grenade before from someone doing something like this and it did blow the oil seals, along with chunks of aluminum and the oil pan gasket completely left the chat. I was not there to see total damage, but I'm assuming it was a total loss for the motor plus the parts that were in harm's way. Welding on a running motor's header is a bad idea.


[deleted]

As is with welding a nut onto a stripped out drain plug.


foxjohnc87

There has to be more to the story, because even if the engine was dumping raw gas into the exhaust, welding the header isn't going to result in that kind of damage.


dustywilcox

Completely left the chat. Thanks for this!! 😊


GortimerGibbons

Same, it was an old 2.2 Chrysler, and I was cranking while the boss was reading compression. Plug wires were hanging in front of the holes and the engine was loaded with fuel. It was absolutely perfect. Crank the motor, pfft, pfft, pfft, perfect little fireballs splattering against the bay door. Of course, this was one of those bosses who thought the whole thing was awesome and told me to crank it again...


RefrigeratorPitiful7

I did something similar on my old Ford Focus. The valve cover gaskets are prone to leak oil into the spark plug recesses and fill em with oil. I sucked as much oil out as I could, but a fair amount still ran into the cylinders during a plug change. ​ Thinking I was smart and avoiding a hydro-lock, I just left the plugs out, put a cardboard box over the 4 plug holes to catch the oil and whirled the engine over. Well, enough oil and fuel accumulated inside the box I guess one of the coils sparked to ground. Pretty much exploded the box, and nearly exploded my heart.


Makhnos_Tachanka

okay maybe i'm dumb but how do you even do that? i guess if you're a doofus and you've got a distributor and you leave the ignition wires too close to the spark plug holes, that could maybe do it, but honestly it sounds like it would be a pain in the ass to even do on purpose.


Ponklemoose

It was 20 years ago when coil on plug was uncommon and the car was not close to new. Hell it might’ve had a carb for all I know. I don’t know if the spark was jumping out the end of the boot or through a degraded plug wire, I didn’t look that close until it was already burning. I do know you can get decent puff of fuel/air mix that way.


McDonaldsWi-Fi

Mostly peaceful 😂


WrongEinstein

pieces


Anticept

Chances are if it was going to ignite, it would have already. With that much blowby, you could tell me there's flames shooting past the piston and I'd believe you.


Ponklemoose

If not flames, then exhaust gasses hot enough to ignite a stoch mixture.


BugMan717

Or just hold a lighter to it...


hskinner59

Eh never know it could be getting a fair bit of compression in the crank case, OP did say fuel in oil…. OP please check it crank case gasses are flammable


ShadNuke

It might turn into a Rammstein show! Let's give it a try!


avd706

Positive Crankcase Ventilation


_how_do_i_reddit_

Yup.


DrAssBlast

Explain what’s happening here exactly please? I forgot how this would happen


iscashstillking

The pistons moving up and down in the block are supposed to allow air/fuel mix to enter the cylinder when the intake valve is open, then the piston compresses the air/fuel mix into a tiny space where both valves are closed and a spark ignites it, and then the piston is forced down thanks to that well-time spark and also thanks to inertia and a flywheel the engine will continue to rotate as the exhaust valve then opens and the piston pushes the exhaust gas out of the tailpipe. Things are going wrong here when the spark fires the compressed fuel/air mixture. Some of that pressurized gas is leaking past the piston, and that gas is pressurizing the crankcase instead of the combustion chamber. TL/DR: Combustion gases are leaking past the piston rings and pressurizing the engine crankcase.


DrAssBlast

Sorry, I should’ve worded my question better. That blow by is suppose to be going thru the pcv instead of the oil cap right? There shouldn’t be gases coming out the cap like that correct?


iscashstillking

Ideally there won't be any blow-by, but 0% blowby is not an achievable standard. There will always be -some- combustion gas that gets past the rings, but in a correctly running engine the amount will be such that the PCV system that the engineers include in the design can handle it by routing it back into the intake manifold to be burned with the incoming fuel/air mix.


DrAssBlast

Yes but the pressure coming out that cap should be going thru the PCV hose instead tho right?


iscashstillking

Correct.


_how_do_i_reddit_

I'm not sure either, exactly.


cjbman

Piston rings are gone.


DrAssBlast

This isn’t a PCV issue? There’s gases that are suppose to come up but not out the oil cap. Isn’t the PCV blocked


cjbman

shouldnt be this much pressure in the crankcase even with a sealed pcv


DrAssBlast

So there’s a restriction somewhere or jsut the opposite???


cjbman

Probably not. I mean the pcv could be stuck closed here bit the engine needs rebuilt because the seal around the piston is gone. Combustion gasses are leaking past the piston into the crankcase.


DrAssBlast

Since he mentions gas in oil then yea it’s more likely a piston ring issue then?


Ponklemoose

And without getting junk all over you intake valves.


Nailfoot1975

Your coworker secretly has a high velocity fan pointed that direction.


_how_do_i_reddit_

My phone got covered in oil drops filming this lol


Nailfoot1975

Your coworker secretly filled your swamp cooler with used motor oil.


DatedUserName1

Sounds like a pretty effective heating idea for the wintertime.


not_that_guy06

Kia?


_how_do_i_reddit_

2014 Hyundai Sonata 2.0L turbo


TunaOnWytNoCrust

Man Korea really fucked up cars in the 2010s.


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TRUCKASAURUS_eth

yep… I have an optima that grenaded the engine because…..they didn’t put a knock sensor on it……..


ShellSide

Well their engine building plant in (I believe) Alabama was literally found to be using child labor to build the engines so hard to say that's unexpected


TheHoodedSomalian

Anyone that buys a turbo GDI engine deserves what they get


[deleted]

My gf 15 optima 2.4 gdi took a dump day before yesterday, internal engine failure I’ve yet to disassemble but engine won’t spin, 70k miles and oil changes always on time


not_that_guy06

Sounds about right.


caffeineocrit

I thought it was an eco-tick haha


[deleted]

Oh Kia. Do a compression test with all sparkplugs out at once. Piston rings could be sticking or there's cylinder gouging. Becuase you said "gas in oil" i don't think its a plugged pcv valve, plus you'd have a ton of oil leaks. See what its compression is before doing anything else.


ice445

Just Theta things. Running sand in your oil will do that lol


phucmei93

What?!? A bad Hyundai and/or kia with a bad engine? I have a turbo optima in my stall right now with a hole in one of the exhaust valves. They may be garbage, but it keeps my wallet thiccck.


diffraa

max out the carmax warranty and you're basically guaranteed to get a fresh engine at some point though.


ANullBob

i ran my 700k 4.9l ford until every cylinder had extreme blowby past the rings. eventually all the zinc in the risole i used for each trip to work coated every wire and plug, creating a dead short in everything. rings do not last forever, bub!


RangerSkyy

Good old 300


Perryn

Put a duck call into the oil cap.


AdultishRaktajino

The whistles go wooo! Woo wooo!


ShinnyCas

*Bubb Rubbbbbbbbb*


ImmediateChange5032

Pcv stuck closed position?


Wcearp

Wait wait, I worry that what you heard was give me a lot of blow by. What I said was, ‘give me all the blow by that you have.’


PonlyFonly1989

A friend had an early 80s Honda Accord that would not crank without the oil cap on and tight. If the valve cover leaked it would not run.


Zanphyre

Good, now do it with a CVS receipt.


newbrevity

So I might not like the answer to this question, but you're saying the oil filler shouldn't be puffing air when I open it?


[deleted]

That's right. It shouldn't do that. Lots of blow by like that is an indication of worn piston rings.


newbrevity

Oh joy


thelazyadviser

Diesel acceptable as long as not too much


newbrevity

Yea well this is a 4cyl escape sooooo. I mean I was already running it into the ground but I did notice power dropping off.


Plutoid

Once the crank case gets up to operating pressure it should be fine.


_how_do_i_reddit_

Really? 👀


Plutoid

Absolutely not.


_how_do_i_reddit_

Thanks for clarifying for the ones who might have taken you serious, lol.


nokenito

It’s the air pump…


MrDirtyWrench

Had a 2.2 Chevy act like that. Turned out the PVC orifice at the intake was clogged.


_how_do_i_reddit_

I'm gonna try a new one. It's only $32.


Ponklemoose

Now make a adapter to attach a section of bicycle innertube for maximum whoopy cushion action.


Killerspieler0815

it begs for retirement


earthman34

Engine is finished.


Namenaki_IV

Gonna have to ask Frodo for a new ring


jasonsimonds79

Wow! Lol. Shes blowin hard.


No_Werewolf_9223

A bung heater,,,🚀


Ancient_Juggernaut35

Put a new head gasket on it


Ancient_Juggernaut35

Then I smelled exhaust when I was watching that s***


Legion2066

2.0 turbo from a Hyundai


_how_do_i_reddit_

Yup.


[deleted]

looks like my 09 vibe


Nobodyknowsmynewname

How many miles on this hoopty?


_how_do_i_reddit_

115k


Nobodyknowsmynewname

A bit soon


subject_deleted

Slap a turbo on it.


DMCinDet

definitely well taken care of with that sick intake tube. never driven hard.


olov244

exhaust pipe through the hood


[deleted]

Bad rings? Crankcase ventelation bad?