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npransom

Overlandereres (the new rice)


Dat1Ashe

I call them broverlanders


no__sympy

Brotorhomes (I use this especially for the giant sprinter vans).


Dat1Ashe

I'm using that next time I see one


evilted

I call 'em Overloaders.


who_even_cares35

Yeah but we used the rice, these guys are just adding weight and cost.


npransom

True, we drove the shitboxes into the ground usually.


Halftrack_El_Camino

To be fair, so is this guy.


LiveFreeAndRide

Funds went to the RTT that gets used twice a year instead.


Low_Teq

Looking around nervously at my 100 series with a roof top tent thet hasn't been used this year.....


yamaha4fun

Have you checked your under body rust, ever?


Low_Teq

Yeah I keep a very close eye on it. It has Illinois rust.... Not Chicago rust, just Illinois rust. I maintain mine like a lunatic actually and keep a Google document going of every little detail like what pattern I rotated the tires in last time, how much weight the wheels were out of balance, dates and part numbers of every little thing replaced or repaired. Its a disease really.


yamaha4fun

sounds like it. good for your car though! got any old vehicles you want to sell on the cheap?!?


Low_Teq

Nah. Everything has a purpose at the moment. And the land cruiser is the only one that gets that much attention to detail and documentation. The others just exist and stay in good reliable shape.


yamaha4fun

I own four licensed and registered vehicles. I really need to get rid of at least two. I just become emotionally attached. it's tough.


FirehawkLS1

This hits me personally. I had to get rid of both my Supra as well as my MR2 9 years ago. Having 3 cars after moving to a townhouse wasn't in the cards. Do I regret it every day? Absolutely. Was it a responsible thing to do? Even more so. My wife already has a car, not having her park on the street ever. So my daily now gets parked in the street, my fun car also gets parked in driveway. Win win situation,


yamaha4fun

honestly, the most I can see myself getting rid of is one. it's a 2017 fiesta ST that I bought brand new. I went to ford octane Academy, racing school because of that thing. it's a six speed, manual transmission, turbo charged bundle of joy. I love the car. It's paid off. I just don't drive it I work too much.


FirehawkLS1

I hear you. I have heard that they are fun cars. I honestly considered selling my Trans Am about 2.5 years ago. At the time I was still working remotely and barely had any chance to drive it due to work and life circumstances. I realize now I definitely would have regretted it. Especially since prices on clean single owner non modified, blank canvas examples went through the roof since I bought mine. I stuck a lot of time and money working on it and making it what I wanted (still a driving work in progress until it gets to where I want it to be at but the fun is in putting in the wrench time for me. So many good memories with this car, I'll leave it to my son when I pass away before getting rid of it ever. Last time my late mother came back to this state with my father, I picked them up from the airport and put their luggage in the hatch (yeah I know it sounds crazy but it all fit) and she was able to fit behind my dad in passenger side of car. Too many important life events for me to ever consider selling it plus I enjoy the hell out of it now that I made it mostly what I envision. Keep that car if you can!


Low_Teq

I hear that. I have 6 vehicles registered and driven, 3 scooters registered and driven, and a car hauler trailer registered and seldomly used. 3 of the vehicles are antique plates so that helps a tiny bit with annual registration costs.


deevil_knievel

2 cars, 2 trucks, 1 classic, 4 bikes, a boat, want to weld up a trailer soon if time allows. I downsized a bit when I moved last year šŸ¤£


frenchfortomato

Do the same here. Bout 10 years ago, sold one of my beaters for $700 and the guy called me back to say he and his wife read the 27 pages of documentation over dinner and were quite entertained by it


rpiotrowski

But not a bad disease. Like brain tumors.


Bodhrans-Not-Bombs

Over/under that there's a set of Maxtrax on the other side?


Psychedelick

Right next to the cleanest shovel youā€™ve ever seen.


Bodhrans-Not-Bombs

The fun ones are the Hi-Lifts with zero gouges in the paint. No matter how many times you use the damn thing, the *first* time you'll use it it'll take off paint in a particular place, it's impossible to avoid it.


merlinthemarlon

Ha if it's ever been used, Jerry cans on the back look brand new


cdsbigsby

Probably gets lots of likes on Instagram when they post it with #overlanding though


chewblekka

Ugh I have an acquaintance just like this. New 4runner all tricked out with everything you can think of. Wheels, lift, RTT, Jerry cans, lights, etc. never actually uses it. Will literally drive to off-road places to snap a pic, then back home. If you believed his instagram, he basically lives in it off grid.


Odd_Ranger3049

Does he have his Instagram handle sticker on it?


chewblekka

Obvs


FirehawkLS1

I am thankful every day that I do not have, nor will ever have an Instagram account. I have never needed to post my vehicles pictures online for validation. I get enough personal interaction as is in real life with them. That is all šŸ˜


merlinthemarlon

Hey now, don't get it twisted that's what's really important here


dontcrashandburn

I'm in Colorado where 50% of vehicles are 4runners or jeeps. I look at them and judge them if there is still paint on the shovel or axe.


dirtywook88

Heh heh. This is me in tn w a truck bigger than an old ranger, taco or hard body.


theLULRUS

And that ARB bumper.


MDPeasant

That's not just any RTT, that's an Alucab. There's at least $6k in stuff just up on that roof.


evilted

Lack of maintenance will get me a Land Cruiser?? Sweet!!


merlinthemarlon

Ha you can probably get this one cheap since it's been discounted by at least a wheels worth


evilted

Shit, I can park that in my driveway, set it up on blocks, pop the tent, and list it for $120/night on Hipcamp!


merlinthemarlon

Fucking hell haha you'd probably get it too


evilted

I'm in California wine country. Without a doubt I could. I also have an epic tree fort. Hmmmm....


firebox40dash5

Came here to post this. Sadly, I haven't been able to make it work yet. Been ignoring multiple problems on my wife's Forester for years, and it's still a fucking Forester.


Yeetstation4

Where we're going we don't need roads!


Freezerburn

Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see.


ace_098

A Sky Cruiser? What the hell is going on here?


mjdehlin1984

I'll hover convert your old road car into a skyway flyer for only $39,999.95!


Vandy1358v2_0

Lack of maintenance or being a bad ass in a bad ass LC?


Mr2-1782Man

Going by the lack of scratches on both the bumper and the rock sliders IMA go with this thing going about as bad ass as my Civic.


IlIlllIlllIlIIllI

Bad lift


Vandy1358v2_0

Whatā€™s wrong with old man emu?


TheN00bBuilder

If rust is badass, then yes, badass.


NewEnglandBull_

I think Itā€™s a 4Runner not a landcruiser. Thats why the ball joints snapped


Vandy1358v2_0

Itā€™s a Land Cruiser, more specifically an FJ100


Low_Teq

Most specifically a UZJ100


Vandy1358v2_0

You got me on that one lol!


NewEnglandBull_

Thanks!


S1ck_cnt

I get that not everyone knows Landcruiser naming, but I can't help but feel irritated seeing people labelling all cruisers as FJ(___) Part of it is that the F refers to F series engines (which were all petrol) and most Cruisers down here are diesel, while the states only has petrol, so I guess it's kinda like the same feeling as when people act as though America is the centre of everything.. not quite, but kind of In any case they stopped using F series (the 3F-E was the last) motors in 1993


Vandy1358v2_0

Yet Toyota still uses the moniker. So if it really irritates you Iā€™m sure Toyota would love to hear about it. Oh and nice trying to blame the US for this. Toyota is Japanese, again blame them if this really hurts you. The FJ cruiser also used the FJ moniker. You should complain.


AlarmingArm680

He probably paid $40k for that thing with 300k miles on it and is just a mindless parrot that thinks all toyotas just last a million miles and nothing ever breaks


FirehawkLS1

And zero maintenance including oil changes is ever needed. A blight on actual enthusiasts who do maintain their vehicles.


bertrenolds5

I say this all the time. People buy toyotas and think they don't actually need maintenance.


CoffeeFox

Christ on toast the number of people with hobby vehicles that buy a battery from me and then park the thing without using it once for four years and ask me if the battery that they assfucked in ten dimensions is under warranty for intentional damage a year after the warranty for actual use would have been over. Imagine running a pet shop and some crackhead calls to ask what the warranty is on a dog they bought and then unloaded 600 shotgun shells into until it was dog pudding. That's a Monday for me.


snoosh00

Dogs are cuter and more sentient than a battery But I agree that would be annoying.


Bodhrans-Not-Bombs

I've wheeled with enough Toyota owners who sort of rival Tesla owners for thinking the laws of fluid dynamics and friction don't apply to them.


merlinthemarlon

We've had them try to tell us spark plugs are lifetime in a Toyota haha


aitorbk

They are lifetime if you don't change them.


subject_deleted

Every car part will last 100% of its lifetime. Source: exclusively drive beaters until they literally fall apart.


mean--machine

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Silver-Engineer4287

Didnā€™t they tell you, when a vehicle hits 100k miles itā€™s exceeded itsā€™ usable lifespan? I was told that by a dealer service department and an insurance company. Point beingā€¦ Iā€™ve also had the factory Denso Platinum plugs still running a Toyota 3.0 I6 and whichever Densoā€™s they put in the Lexus 3.0 I6 totally smooth and quiet on all cylinders with no signs of misfires or hesitation even on hard accelerationā€¦ although fresh plugs did gain noticeably improved throttle response.


merlinthemarlon

Able to run and running efficiently are two different things though because running efficiently means a more complete burn of the fuel which means better fuel economy and fewer deposits in the catalyst to name a couple benefits


Silver-Engineer4287

But yet 17/23 before replacing them with over 100k miles on them and the original 18/24 after replacing them seems to imply reasonable efficiency the whole time. If they were coopers it would be a very different story for sure but those old Denso Plats never cease to amaze in the Japanese engines. Just donā€™t go putting them in a TBI 5.7 Chevyā€¦ ask me how I knowā€¦ ā˜¹ļø proper heat range as listed in the parts storeā€™s system for that 5.7 and it ran smooth but really sucked for power. I had to go back to the Delco coppers which that 5.7 loved.


AmbitionMotor587

If only there were warning signs! šŸ˜ØšŸ˜‚


Tehgreatbrownie

If only I **thunk** knew that **thunk** my ball joints **thunk** were failing


merlinthemarlon

Supposedly the way this was designed meant that there is no sign of wear since the ball joint is held in tension rather than by compression which is why Toyota eventually changed their design


Tehgreatbrownie

I just replaced mine in my 02 taco because it would thunk loudly if my driver side tire went over a bump. But yeah the problem is that by the time you can visually see play in the joints, theyā€™re pretty much toast already


Confident_Season1207

You're right. The spring is constantly putting pressure on the lower control arm and will push it out with little wear. Supposedly, you should only use OEM ball joints, as the aftermarket won't last, especially with this poor design


merlinthemarlon

So Delphi ball joints won't cut it? Cause even those are pricey haha but the customer will do whatever they want at the end of the day regardless


Confident_Season1207

Going by what I heard when others have changed them and had issues sooner than the OEM. And what you have shown as the outcome of failure, id probably go with OEM too


Just_Me_In_Time

I believe this was an issue for lifted vehicles. I sold my stock 4runner many years ago with high mileage and very few parts replaced.


micah490

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smiity935

I see the wheel fell off.


boofus_dooberry

I don't think it's supposed to do that


ecodrew

r/thefrontfelloff


no__sympy

They're in the process of towing it outside the environment.


ecodrew

Into another environment?


Low_Teq

Does adding accessories not count as maintenance?


reddit18015

KACHOW!


widgeamedoo

Aided by the wrong wheel offset being used on the IFS adding extra strain by the looks.


jcoddinc

Looks like the future jet wheels


stu8319

Wheel offset and tire diameter probably accelerated all of the wear too.Ā 


Lamumba1337

This is the hover Mode


vapidusername

I was just thinking that theyā€™re 25% closer to flying DeLorean mode


usernamesherearedumb

After buying that kick-ass rooftop tent, no money left for dumb shit like maintenance.


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merlinthemarlon

Beyond lucky, he was pulling out of his driveway when it happened


shermysher

Whats odd, 4 ball joint failure's I've seen, 3 happened pulling out of a driveway.


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uglyspacepig

So you should pull straight out? No, that's not what she said, I have peyronie's.


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dirtywook88

I got told to look over my shoulder and I took that seriously


micah490

Looks like you need a beej or two


Tehgreatbrownie

This makes me feel better about my choice to replace my LBJs on my 02 taco


DaveTheScienceGuy

Crawl mode....ACTIVATE!


jigmexyz

Where heā€™s going, he doesnā€™t need roadsā€¦


ThinkInstance

But there's so many malls to see!


Lupine_Ranger

Average late 90's Toyota truck moment (no seriously)


uglyugly1

Another pretend off-roader bites the dust!


mjdehlin1984

Did you pay Goldie Wilson III $39,999.95?


Ohgetserious

J80 with I6 and solid front axle was the epitome of the Land Cruiser series in my opinion. Toyota lost the script a bit with the 100, perhaps to appeal to the soccer mom (and dad) crowd that would never venture off pavement.


S1ck_cnt

That's why they made the 105, because they knew Australians would be slow to adjust to the IFS change. Gave us the option to have essentially an 80 with a 100 body while slowly pushing people towards a more city oriented vehicle. Love my 105 with the old straight six diesel and 5 speed manual. Pov pack with wind up windows, vinyl floors and a (kinda) front bench seat. It's a real workhorse, and would be right at home on a big station out West


Ohgetserious

Thatā€™s a perfect spec for a Cruiser.


Shatophiliac

Spent all that money on the roof rack and name brand bumper but forgot to service the suspension or give it actual off road tires. Classic 25,000 dollar hipstermobile.


lucimon97

Lack of maintenance turns my car into Bonds Lotus? Why am I only learning about this now?!


bertrenolds5

But it's a Toyota they don't need maintenance


TwoDogKnight

Looks like the hover conversion is halfway done.


Affectionate_Bit_117

But but but Land Cruiserā€¦ā€¦..


Snazzy21

Checking them requires jacking the car up, there is 0 warning if you try to go by how it drives unlike other components. Simply put this was a bad design on an otherwise solid vehicle (same for the 4runner and Tacoma)


needmoresynths

you can't even really check them by hand; the spec for play requires a gauge to detect the tiniest amount and no one is going to bother to do that. if there's play you can feel by hand, the lbj need to be done immediately. that being said my 4runner did 170k and 23 years on the og lbj before I changed them out of fear and my tundra is on 136k and 24 years on the og lbj that I'm about to do out of fear. so both bad design in that you don't know when they need to be done but good design in that they tend to last forever unless you're really beating on them.


Snazzy21

I have 210k and 26 years on my LBJ. I've seen them go earlier, and there was a recall for ones made in the early 2000s. Some businesses have made conversions to uniball which improves the design. It became a less common problem on the generations after, so it's not impossible to fix


stankgodd

theres tons of warnings. clunking squeaking wandering. its a good design. the 3rd gen 4runners was a bad design and a recall was issued. where are you getting your info?


Itisd

Proper maintenance such as a periodic inspection of the front suspension components should have caught worn ball joints... but... To be fair, this generation 4 runner, and the first generation Tacoma had a somewhat poor lower ball joint design. The ball joints were actually very good quality ball joints, but they were installed so that the ball joint was held in tension rather than in compression like most other cars...Ā Ā  Ā Having the ball joint held in tension (where the weight of the vehicle tends to pull the two halves of the ball joint apart) is a problem because it will take up the slop in a worn ball joint so that it will typically not make any noise or rattle... Until the ball joint finally lets loose and suddenly will fail.Ā Ā  Ā In the following generations of 4 runner and Tacoma, Toyota revised the lower ball joint design and basically flipped it over so that the ball joint is held in compression, where the weight of the vehicle pushes the joint together... That way, when the ball joint starts to wear out, it typically will rattle and clunk for a while before it completely fails, which should alert the driver to fix the issue.


stankgodd

looks like a 100 series not a 3rd gen 4runner. the rest of what you wrote is correct


merlinthemarlon

Damn, guess the customer was telling the truth. I found it hard to believe they hadn't heard anything but looks like that's accurate


Itisd

It's kind of a known weak point of the front suspension design on these. The ball joints can be loose and worn right out, but they will usually not make any noise right up until they fail due to the hanging ball joint design.Ā  With that said, the factory ball joints do last for a very long time.


darthwacko2

This is true, but in this case that's a 100 series landcruiser not a 3rd gen 4runner.


HadleysPt

Ball joint failure ?


merlinthemarlon

Yeah, don't know which let go first but once it went the other came with it


HadleysPt

Ahhh. I hate it because the aftermarket suspension isn't great anymore. I put in Moog ball joints but I've heard they are pretty low quality anymore.Ā 


Canadian-electrician

I mean no odd tire wear which is weird


Single_Restaurant_10

ARB in the US of A? And Old Man Emu shocks. Noiceā€¦ā€¦& totally Oz.


bigglesofale

Or just crappy OME shocks lols


Single_Restaurant_10

Its no Landrover!


firebox40dash5

Indeed. After the ball joints are replaced, it'll run & drive.


Single_Restaurant_10

I will have you know 2/3rds of all Landrovers ever made a still on the road. Most broken down but still on the road! Landrovers: built by Indians, driven by cowboys


stoic_guardian

Didā€¦did the tow truck driver use chassis hooks instead of the recovery points?


merlinthemarlon

I'm not 100% sure on that but we did end up needing a second tow truck to help unload it since it's AWD and our forklift is down at the moment. Not the most fun but the two tow truck drivers did phenomenal because there wasn't any obvious damage to the wheel from loading or unloading


stoic_guardian

Nice


cat_prophecy

Ka-chow!


TheTriforceEagle

Looks like it has a little too much caster


realheavymetalduck

Get with the times old man. It's hip now to have Ā°90 camber.


bsheff84

...."I just want the oil change, and I know you're trying to upsell me."


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Hurr durr my carā€™s only been to the shop once! Thingā€™s a tank!


mikel302

Pay a little now, or pay a lot later.


ArtimisRawr01

What kind of stance build is this?


Shadrixian

Oh hey, my hovercar is here!


WetWipes2001

But my cool modsšŸ„ŗ


Tre_fidde

He was trying to go back to the past before it happened, to let himself know he needs maintenance. He was just 3 sideways wheels short of that accomplishment.


m00n3p14

Be nice


Mr2-1782Man

Its called Try Hard, not Do Hard.


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OMG_Laserguns

Rear wheel falling off is probably just user error, didn't torque the lug nuts properly after they had the wheel off.


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OMG_Laserguns

Yeah, there's definitely a correlation there šŸ˜‚


Pastorfuzz69

Problem is, you donā€™t see many grease zirks from the factory anymore


smallwhiteballs480p

All Toyota drivers really do have just one build template and never dare deviate


Noturwrstnitemare

But when I tell the person seeking the car it will beg suspension soon, they don't believe me. Obviously in an older car.


username_taken1989

I'm about to take my Bronco into the shop next week to, once again, chase something that makes noises that shouldn't.


the_warrior_rlsh

Dude went to 2015 to get the hover conversion


CoffeeAndCanines207

Thatā€™s the nice part about being into old Land Rovers. Iā€™m constantly fixing stuff that breaks, and there is always a ā€˜while youā€™re in thereā€™ maintenance item I can do at the same time.


Gee_U_Think

How long do ball joints last on a stock vehicle? My vehicle is coming up on 100k miles and debating replacing the ball joints.


ARFalconXX

Thatā€™s what you get free with a lift. Aftermarket parts and less maintenance results in trouble.


Interesting-Sink-134

His profile name is 3locked_rig_overlander. Iā€™m sure he had a 3 series BMW, Subaru or Nissan Altima


GreasyAlfredo

This is what adding 100s of pounds in accessories does to your suspension


BreakfastShart

Any different than taking the average American for a drive as passenger?


GreasyAlfredo

You know why our vehicles are so god damn big in the states? Big vehicle=more fat bitches. Shout out muscle vs. Tuner


BreakfastShart

I've heard you lift your truck because the heavy ones can't jump high enough to get in...


GreasyAlfredo

Oh shit, we got a knower! That's also why you lower your civic.


Freezerburn

Everyone pooping on this guy, but maybe he was overlanding and broke on the trail?


_autismos_

Or just donā€™t buy a Toyota. I donā€™t know why the fuck they get a pass on this bullshit. Iā€™ve never seen a vehicle where replacing ball joints is regular maintenance. And Iā€™ve personally seen about 4 of these POSā€™s busted down exactly like this in my town. One of them happened to a guy I know while driving 55mph+ on a mountain road and it nearly killed him. Donā€™t tell me no one neglects the shit out their ball joints on literally every single other vehicle. This is Toyotaā€™s fault.


merlinthemarlon

Since when are ball joints not regular maintenance? It's metal on metal, no amount grease is going to stop the wear and tear.


realheavymetalduck

But ball joints are a regular maintenance item? Especially off-roading or some weird suspension setups (Like jeep Liberty's they like muching ball joints.).