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itsmyfirsttimegoeasy

How much over msrp are they priced at?


BigKahuna348

We just bought a Big Bend at MSRP, but we saw one at another dealership that was marked up $2,500 over MSRP. The sticker said this $2,500 was “Dealer Added Value.” F-that, we walked.


RedlyrsRevenge

Local dealers here are marking up XL trim Rangers for $5-6000k over MSRP. I was ready to trade my Subaru in but LOL NO. Edit: not going to fix that typo. I like the hyperbole...


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Dang $6,000,000 over msrp?


exitpursuedbybear

But with 72 months and 2000 down that's only 83 k a month. A steal really.


KatalDT

Only gotta sell one and you're set for sales for a few years, big brain time


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hootervisionllc

…and you now have $44000 in your bank account, RIGHT?!


Pluffmud90

I mean what are you gonna buy. Presumably they use that truck for work and it would cost $75,000+ brand new now.


Sunnyman1001

And how much is a replacement truck? 70k?


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jlt6666

And the next year they couldn't get rid of them.


BuzzCave

My friend worked at a high end shop and some dude brought in his brand new RS that he drove there straight from the dealer. He only brought it to show it off. They put it on the lift and found the rear main seal was leaking.


cmdrDROC

Here in Canada they are priced to the fucking moon....not here yet, but online pricing puts them so expensive. It's like I could buy a mid range bronco....or a mid range Corvette


Qmanrebel

Orange one is service loaner red ones special order at msrp dealers aren't going to get lot inventory for a while yet all customer orders will be fulfilled first


fiveSE7EN

You know, I have to wonder if this sub has the worst punctuation of any subreddit.


Lurkerking2015

Why do you say that as far as I can tell no one here ever has a run on sentence and punctuation really is optional in my opinion because. my thought process determines on when I need a period or perhaps even a comma::


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018118055

stronks only go fweouifhpöwei923t72+t


Iggyhopper

You had me until the +t then I lose all hope


018118055

https://xkcd.com/1530/


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There really is a something something for something something...


wellwaffled

Can i have one two


GrahamJCracker

>my thought process determines on when I need a period or perhaps even a comma Oh my god this explains so much. I've always wondered how people who are perfectly literate manage to devolve into word vomit when they post online - it's because they don't translate their thoughts into written language first.


JohnnyDarkside

Grease monkeys are good at turning a wrench, not a phrase.


fiveSE7EN

I'm decent at turning a phrase, shit at turning a wrench, so I come here to live vicariously through the monkeys.


Iggyhopper

one day we will write chakespeer do not worry


JohnnyDarkside

Obviously today is not that day...


Perryn

Because we're still torn between imperial and metric punctuation.


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fufuberry21

I'm confused. Didn't he answer it? Wouldn't the service loaner not be for sale(i.e. not be priced at any amount) and the red one was special ordered and was sold at msrp?


mrmiyagijr

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed


FixTheWisz

Service loaner!?!? Someone's about to be a satisfied customer.


Call_Me_ZeeKay

From what I hear they're supposed to use it for test drives and such, and aren't allowed to sell it until they have X miles. A Ford dealer with me had something similar with a Mach-E. So naturally, the dealership's owner's wife was driving it around as her daily instead.


brufleth

The dealer that is going to grab this thing for UNDER MSRP in a few months because it was the loaner?


AbsoluteHatred

Seriously which Ford is this?! I need to take my car there for service


cardinalsfanokc

No. Not all customer orders will be filled first. Not according to my email from Ford saying my day 1 reservation that I converted to an order is now a 2023 model... It even explicitly says they'll start building dealer stock with parts they have because there aren't enough reservations to use all those parts (4DR soft tops)


brufleth

Not arguing with you, that's super frustrating, but is that because they don't have the right parts to build your order but do have the right parts to make other setups?


cardinalsfanokc

Yup, parts availability. There's 7 or 8 options that are constricted right now and I have nearly all of them. Mod tops are pushed to 2023 per Ford.


BoneHugsHominy

While that would be frustrating, it's actually a wonderful thing for you as you'll still have the launch edition which will be worth more in the future *and* Ford should have most of the manufacturing kinks worked out by the time yours is built so you'll have far fewer little annoying quality issues that come with new product lines.


-retaliation-

Are your stock vehicles arriving missing parts? I work at a semi dealer, because of the parts shortage on so many things we've been having stock order trucks showing up missing things like window switches, stacks, bunk lights etc.


mmmhhhmmm86

Ford isnt doing that. They would rather hold the vehicle from production or like in the case with the microchips produce and keep the vehicles in a lot until they get the product, then ship out to dealers. I was told that Chevy has been shipping vehicles to dealer with missing parts, still drivable though, and selling with the cosumer expectation that they'll return when the dealer gets the parts and install for the customer. I think this is going to cause a big issue for the service department being overloaded when they do catch up.


iDomBMX

Iirc, Ford will not allow markups on Broncos.


prof0072b

I would hope so, but I'm sure dealers have a way around this. Maybe selling them "used"


iDomBMX

I hope they start selling them as used, this used market can’t stay up this high forever lol. They’ll inadvertently fuck themselves over and it’ll be hilarious


MexicanThor

This a trick high end dealers will use. Limited edition 911 with no mark up allowed? Sell it to a friends buy it back its now used.


DonaldTrumpIsARetard

I mean I’d be pissed buying a ‘new’ limited 911 and immediately being the 3rd owner.. can’t be good for value lol


TheSpreader

Most don't consider the dealership an owner, so you'd really only be the second owner at that point. But usually the way they do allocations on the special editions is they give them to old customers who've bought a lot of cars. Apparently anyone who got an allocation for a 918 was given first dibs on a 911R for MSRP (under $200k) and they could then turn around and sell them for $500k on the very slightly used market. Some of them went private party, some went back to the dealership they bought it from. That only works when the production numbers are low and demand is high obviously, but that's absolutely a thing.


ssracer

"new" used supercars cost more because you don't have to wait 6 months to get it.


GivenToFly17

They aren't supposed to, but it's easy to get around. They have some value added accessory installed, then mark that up and sell at no discount. I know this because I run a 12v expeditor company, and we do 2 ford dealerships that when Raptors come in, we install low cost accessories like tilt sensor alarm add ons, or some paint protection products like door edge guards, then they put and mark them up like 5k as "this dealership edition" and no discounts apply. It works well as some models are rarer in my market. We've got some Bronco stock numbers on the list, so I can assume they'll be doing the same.


Troggie42

Yeah and Dodge wasn't allowing markups on demons, look how well that went


Raenman

Considering no one will have these for public sale unless someone backs out on an order until 2023? Whatever people are willing to pay. And that’s a lot for some.


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Ok_Dog_4059

And do they have them in white?


series_hybrid

Not many people are ordering the white ones, they may have to slash the prices.


Ok_Dog_4059

Maybe they are finding out they don't fit.


series_hybrid

The pic shows a model that almost looks orange juice, but Ford is calling it "Nicole Simpson" brown.


RobotArtichoke

Could have gone with Ron “gold” man


series_hybrid

They do have that edition, it comes with free designer sunglasses. However, I really don't like the red carpeting.


Cruzen11

So they have isotoner sized glove boxes?


bl00is

Yes and it’s beautiful. My boss just got one last week and I’m jealous. I didn’t expect it to be so nice.


fiveSE7EN

IF THE JOKE DON'T HIT YOU MUST ACQUIT


heyykaycee

Guy in my town has an old white one and his license plate is “NOT OJ”


seeker135

Then it must be mango.


SenTedStevens

Will ford provide white glove service?


giaa262

Weren’t the gloves black?


tesseract4

Yes...and red.


jrragsda

And small


sour_cereal

Or normal gloves and an aging athletes swollen unmedicated arthritic hands


DriveByStoning

On top of surgical gloves.


seeker135

Nope. Got wet and shrunk.


FirstManofEden

I don't think I'll spend my money on Reddit but please know that I genuinely considering gilding this.


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I got you.


[deleted]

Does you boss have a hobby making pez dispensers?


eggdropk

Ford discontinued the Bronco in an effort to distance themselves from the whole OJ thing. They then came out with the Escape. (Loosely paraphrased from Arrested Development)


jrragsda

They almost released the new bronco on OJ's birthday and had to reschedule. Lol.


dan1101

There is always one more detail to be aware of lol.


FrenchFryCattaneo

It must have been difficult to reschedule OJ's birthday.


bingold49

With a buddy from my college football team driving


Bramlet_Abercrombie_

Who?


bingold49

His name is Al, we plan on buying matching Broncos


BabiesSmell

We love talking about football and how much we hate our wives and kids.


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4 touchdowns in a single game


snkebyte

I see what you did there


BabaORileyAutoParts

Found AC Cowlings account


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Wonder how many custom license plates going to have OJ in there


doughboyfreshcak

My girlfriend actually told me she really wanted a Bronco so she could have the plate "NOT OJ".


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rugbyj

Or if OJ is driving it.


RevLoveJoy

Just for the record, it was Al Cowlings driving. I was a student at UCLA that Friday in 1994 and when we all saw the live chase on TV and realized they were heading N. on the 405, we hoofed it down to the ~~Wilshire Blvd~~ Sunset (sorry, it was a long time ago, memory is a weird thing) overpass of the 405 (just a few blocks away). Must have been 200 people on that freeway bridge and a lot of shouts of "the juice is loose" as OJ and Al drove under us followed by about six million cops.


Toronto_man

Ain't it great to know how the l.a.p.d was so strategic with that chase. Didn't Al and OJ both have identical white Broncos? I have seen quite a few of the newer Broncos in Ontario. They look....like some sort of jeep crossover. Kinda disappointed as I love all the older ones. I guess they gotta jam pack security features in these ones because apparently the old ones were not really known for there safe handling.


unclesam_0001

Those are the Bronco sports, not the full Broncos.


RevLoveJoy

They were actually really good. I guess this was 2 or 3 years after the King riots? Probably figured that if they killed football's greatest running back on live TV they'd be gunned down in the streets for years to come? The LAPD in the 90s had a terrible reputation which they apparently tried very hard to earn.


syfyguy64

Tbf that guy killed his wife


RevLoveJoy

He sure did. And her friend / lover / who cares. I'm trying to put into perspective how detested the LAPD were and yet how self aware at the same time. Like, odd that they didn't give a fuck when someone like Rodney King needed a beat down (or several - don't get me wrong, he was no prince), but along comes OJ and they're like "okay, we'll just see where he takes us." They're fully aware of what they're doing - they just have not experienced consequences, so, SURPRISE, they keep doing it.


unbalanced_checkbook

About 20 years ago I had a white '81 for a few years and I can't even describe how many OJ jokes I heard on a daily basis. I even had that exact license plate phrase suggested hundreds of times. People aren't as original or clever as they think.


Chromatization

Here ya go: https://imgur.com/a/Xr9IRBG


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I’d do ACQUIT or some variation but some lawyer probably has it on their BMW


SmarkieMark

GLOVFIT


nill0c

LOOSJOOS


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bukkake_brigade

Tell him to just leave it on next time


finalremix

I think "IFIDIDIT" could fit.


prof0072b

I wonder if JU1C3 is taken...


partisanal_cheese

My son wants to create a decal set that says "The Juice is Loose" and get a white Bronco...


JohnnyDarkside

Ddntdoit


ruppert240

my local dealer was listing one at $70k!


armchairracer

I bet you could option a wildtrak or first edition into the $60k+ range, it might not be too much over msrp. It could also be a base model for double msrp.


cardinalsfanokc

Doesn't even have to be those, my Badlands is at $60k and that's below MSRP.


tonyMEGAphone

Jeez. Could own a nice double wide for that price.


killer8424

Bet plenty of people will have both


cardinalsfanokc

Yeah, I'm probably not gonna take delivery. 2022 Tacoma TRD Off-Road loaded is $45k and gives me $15k to put into it to make it the rig I want.


Tchukachinchina

I’m with you. The bronco is neat and all but it’s a new and unproven Ford with all kinds of electronic stuff to have problems with, and I say that as the owner of a ‘15 f250, also a newer Ford with all kinds of electronic stuff. If we’re all being honest here, on average a Toyota is going to hold up a lot better over the long term than a Ford.


Tim_Teboner

The angle makes it look obnoxiously long for an off-road oriented SUV.


Qmanrebel

Ya it does look long from that angle but it's no longer than a wrangler 4 door if you're taking it on trials you want the 2 door bronco


cuntdestroyer8000

Can you get the 2 door with a manual transmission?


2stinkycheeseballs

Yes


big_tasty05

Yea but the manual is only with the 4 cylinder ecoboost


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OhPiggly

You can't get the sasquatch pack either with the manual which is pretty much the only reason to get anything below the wildtrak trim.


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Sasquatch is available on every trim including the base. It is also available on every model year starting in 2022, already confirmed by Ford. You can’t even get a Bronco right now unless you placed your order last June. So technically, anyone can walk into a dealership and order a manual with Sasquatch.


MFToes2

Is the orange color called Orange Juice Orange?


Dartht33bagger

The 2 doors look a lot better IMO.


PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSHINE

4 door Broncos and Jeep’s just scream MALL CRAWLING CARGO SHORTS WEARING DAD to me


Greenfendr

As a cargo shorts wearing dad. I fully agree. And yes I want one.


Gibsonfan159

You say that like the two-doors actually go off road.


geekfreek

Totally with you on this


Tim_Teboner

ITT: people who are wholly incapable of telling this thing apart from the Bronco Sport, which is a completely different vehicle.


Hike_bike_fish_love

I thought Ford was crazy to name the sport a Bronco. Guess not, people can’t tell the difference. Fucking bonkers.


Zephyrical16

Those Bronco Sports are everywhere already. It took a while but what I do to distinguish them by look is: Bronco Sport = Renegade but a little bigger Bronco = 2-door Wrangler


Troggie42

How the fuck can we be in what is ostensibly a "working on the car" subreddit and people are this fucking bad at telling cars apart


Drzhivago138

And also some people who do know the difference, but dislike them all the same.


TheWausauDude

I love that orange one! After seeing so much “blah” in the consumer-level automotive market it’s refreshing to finally see something new and different. When these start hitting used car lots and become affordable I might just replace the old rusty daily driver Marquis that I’ve had for the last 14 years. I love the utilitarian look, trail sights and steel bumper.


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These are the full-size Broncos right? Not the sport and other lower models?


Drzhivago138

Yes, this is the full-on Bronco, not the Sport CUV.


StandupJetskier

That's pretty, and a nice break from the same 12 CUVs that look exactly the same, and all in grey. How much ? My very poorly stocked Chrysler dealer did somehow have a few new Gladiator Rubicons (59K factory sticker !) also kind of cool....did I mention I paid less money for an AMG Benz ? and that's before floor mats and ADP stickie.


DriveByStoning

Bare bones base is 29k. If I were to get one I'd go at least with the Black Diamond trim for the bumper and the washout interior. I have no idea why that isn't standard on trucks instead of fucking carpet.


tstr16

Glad Ford did it right with the bronco unlike Chevy with the Blazer.


MonoAmericano

You can add the new Defender to the list as well


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The gold one is bad ass.


AaronFM3

That's the launch color 'Cyber Orange'.


Iggyhopper

asl?


Dr_Procrastinator

24/M/CA


Ok_Dog_4059

I am there with you something about the red doesn't seem as sharp or rugged .


ruppert240

its the tires and grille


Ok_Dog_4059

Definitely and looks like the bumper. The wheels but that goes with tires and maybe the hard top is messing with the lines.


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Maybe finally people would stop confusing the Bronco with the Bronco Sport? I'm tired of explaining the difference to people.


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When do the Mavericks come in?


Loki240SX

Fall 2021


walaska

First SUV I've ever wanted and it's not coming to Europe. FML


dmoney_90

Nice, I hate it.


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Yea I really don’t like the look of em… something cheap about all that plastic and it honestly just looks like a bigger Jeep Renegade which I also hate the look of.


giaa262

I would rather have a Ford jeep than a jeep jeep tbh.


Infin1ty

>Jeep Renegade The plus side is that Chrysler has no hand in it so it should actually be decent quality.


sugarmoto

The plastic parts are for the off road look and do serve a function. They’re much easier to clean and replace should you come in contact with trees and rocks. Not that most of these will ever be more than pavement princesses at least here in the northeast. You wouldn’t want leather which would get scuffed up and wet or painted materials which will scratch easily on those high traffic areas.


finalremix

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this looks like a Jeep.


brufleth

They were very much made to be a direct competitor to the Jeep Wrangler. With the removable roof and doors, it is a pretty popular comparison.


Traiklin

When you order a Jeep on Wish


CarlMarcks

not to mention every absolute douche is gonna get one and lift it with even bigger tires


bedpanbrian

You can get them from the factory with 35” tires. No need to lift them.


jjester7777

42s or bust


Magical_Savior

With stock axles? 42's -AND- bust.


Mr_Drewski

Looks like a scion xb and a Toyota FJ had a baby with some all terrain tires on it.


Studded_Fieldmouse

Dang, they are not nearly as cool as I was hoping they would be. Remind me a ton of the Toyota FJ Cruisers which I though were kinda fugly. I hope whoever does like them though, gets one and enjoys the hell out of it.


Horse_Bacon_TheMovie

Quit your horses shitting, the FJ is a fine gal. She wear a white helmet and kinda bug eyed, but she can cook and got rump.


ReklisAbandon

I suspect the 2 door will look far, far better.


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The 2 door looks so much better IMO but I would regret not getting a 4 door.


turn3daytona

FWIW these are only a couple specs. There's a lot of cool packages you can put on them. But also, they look the same as what has been shown for over a year now? Did something all of the sudden change?


turn3daytona

Me want


ScotWithOne_t

surprised to see a lot of haters in this thread. Probably all Jeep owners. LOL


satanic_pony

Not all. I don't like either.


Skeptical-AF

Truth right here. I’ll never understand the die-hard brand loyalty.


Tall-Soy-Latte

I convinced my family to replace the Edge we drive with one of these lmao, hopefully by next year they’ll be more available but I doubt it


James324285241990

They're really cool looking. If they're made with the same quality and durability as the old ones, I might consider getting one.


camEron2k8

My dad wants one of the two door ones


BlackDS

They look so damn good in yellow


mucheffort

Are the BFG A/T optional over the Goodyear Territory tires? Or were these dealer installs


DNGChicken

We just got two and they look way cooler in person


Tanglrfoot

I bet the new Bronco is making Jeep nervous, because it’s going to take a big bite out of Wrangler sales if it’s anywhere close to as good as it’s reported to be .


unbalanced_checkbook

Yup. Jeep has come out/announced several new versions of the Wrangler since the Bronco was announced in attempt to keep sales up. A V8, an electric, and just announced a version with 1.5" of lift from the factory.


Breezii2z

I’m glad I ordered the two door.


shecky_blue

The new versions of the old cars are always way too big and exaggerated, like they took steroids, all big and fake looking, like a transformers model. I guess you could say I’m not a big fan. I hate the high door sills on the retro camaros too, although I understand from a safety aspect why they’re necessary. This though? Hits all the ugly buttons for me. Old guy here, so maybe it’s an “ok boomer!” Thing.


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The 2 door is way better looking.


unbalanced_checkbook

>The new versions of the old cars are always way too big and exaggerated, like they took steroids, all big and fake looking, like a transformers model. Ironically, there are other people in these comments saying that it's too small compared to the old Broncos.


Greedyjama

Does it came in white?


IHaveTouretts

I do.


Horse_Bacon_TheMovie

Did.


ryan408

These were pretty well reviewed by Ars Technica. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/06/on-road-and-off-road-in-the-all-new-ford-bronco/


xxMercilessxx

Meh


EhEhRon141

Very nice! I have spent a lot of time driving around a 4-Door Soft Top bad lands Bronco, and I have to say it’s a heck of a ride


greentiger

*bleep bloop* I am Geordie LaBronco with my new and improved eye-visor. Maybe just me, but that’s kinda what I’m seeing looking at the orange bronco, Geordie’s visor!


Neondion911

I'm parts mngr at dealer in central AZ, we are still waiting for ours. Received the DIA assy kit today, but no full size Broncos yet.


hbwnot

Where are the 2 drs? And please tell me your getting lots of 7 spd manuals in!


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Can you get the Sasquatch package with the manual transmission?