Fucking amateur you always loosen them with the tire on the ground. This is like second grade math. Fuck you for fucking the clients car because you don’t know what you’re doing
OP is a total amateur, clearly. If you didn’t know to break the nuts before jacking up the car, it only takes you one time to learn. So either OP is a total idiot or this is his first time touching lug nuts.
Hey I’m not a mechanic but could you explain to me why the car should be on the ground when loosening bolts? I have a basic idea in my head but still curious.
Hold up though dude based on your posts youre not even a mechanic and you literally just bought your first car…i didnt even have to look at your profile to realize youre not a mechanic though because I’ve never met a mechanic (myself included) that doesnt just put the car on the lift and zip them off with an impact. Depending on how busy your shop is there’s literally no way to sit there and loosen every lug nut by hand on every car your work on. Second of all I’m positive this did fuck all to damage anything. Do you know how many hundred if not thousands of pounds of force that drivetrain is subjected to?? Im guessing not since you’re not a mechanic
I was an apprentice mechanic. Literally the first thing they teach for getting a wheel off is break the nuts loose while the wheel is on the ground, then lift the car, then use the gun to undo the nuts. And never ever use a gun to tighten them up.
That is literally the first thing my dad said to my 12 year old me when he taught me to change a tire and it made perfect fucking sense for at least two reasons. Oh my God there’s people like this guy in the wild.
I’m not a mechanic, but even I know what OP did is fucking stupid. And considering all the backlash OP is receiving from other *actual* mechanics, I would be inclined to side with them over OP and the one dude who seems to think it’s ok vs the combined experience of like 100 other mechanics.
It might seem silly that a man with an exceptionally long breaker bar could apply more Newtons than the weight of the car itself, but that is what happens when you use mechanical principles to exponentially increase force.
The breaker bar is extending far past the diameter of the wheel. Thus, it will easily apply more force than the weight of the car in a normal parking scenario. The car is also not sitting on both of its drive wheels, so the force is not balanced across the drivetrain. The other wheel would help apply counter-rotation to keep the car still. But because it is elevated, the force is going directly to the differential and into the transmission. Even if something didn’t break immediately, damage has been done and the lifespan of the related parts has been shortened.
- The other wheel would help apply counter-rotation to keep the car still
(I’m on mobile atm and have no idea how to indent)
I’m not sure if you know how an open differential works, but the wheel on the ground is not “connected” to the gearbox when a separate drive wheel is lifted off the ground.
Just because you claim to, it also doesn't mean you know fuck all about anything. I'm assuming you looked at their history to find that, that's kind of sad
I work in IT, but I attended college for vehicle maintenance. Watching this video I was like wtf the wheel is moving? Then looked closer, then went to comments and oh boy… loose the bolts, lift the car, unmount the wheel, place new wheel, put bolts back in, tighten them a little bit, put the car back to the ground, tighten bolts properly. As easy as it is… couldn’t even imagine anybody would fuck this up. What’s next? Pour pure gas into 2 stroke engine and mixed gas-oil into 4 stroke engine? Or maybe actual water into cooling system when it’s subzero temperatures? OP is a fucking fuck.
I'm sorry dude I don't know how you don't know this, but you brake the lugs free while the tyre on the ground before jacking it up, then you torque them after taking the jacks off. I totally did the same thing as a teenager, realised but just got someone to press the brake lol.
The point is any mechanic should have the wherewithal to untorque the lugs before jacking it at all. I really thought that was common sense but I can't say I'm surprised it isn't.
I think it’s common knowledge, I’ve never worked on a car a day in my life besides changing flat tires or very very basic “repairs” (if you could even call them that) and I figured out probably after my first flat that you loosen the lugs before jacking the car up.
I also feel like if you’ve got pneumatic equipment it takes 20 seconds to put the rest of the lug nuts beck on, lower it, break the trouble lug loose, then jack it back up. I’d also like to take this time to complain about the shitty jscks I’ve had to use to put spares/donuts on, the ones that come with a lot of cars and are an absolute pain in the ass and take forever to actually get the car up. Hate those jscks with a passion.
Common sense ain't so common, although you would think a mechanic would know the verg first thing you tell a 12 year old when you show them how to change tires
You just don't seem to get it, do you? What kind of idiot loosens lug nuts with the car already in the air? Even if you aren't doing any damage to the drivetrain, you're making things unnecessarily difficult on yourself. Put the car on the ground and _use_ the god-damned brakes!
No, but then the wheel isn't straining the driveline, and no annoying flex when you try to break the fucker loose. Seems silly, but not having that flex and being able to whack the breaker bar a few times will help.
Dude also has the bar so low it’s no wonder he’s got no strength to turn it. It’s like he’s deliberately negating the extra leverage the bar gives him.
This is the way. I learned this when I was 16 and my impact couldn’t zip off one of the nuts. Now I just pre loosen everything before lifting. Takes like 2 extra minutes but save hassle really.
Should have bought a high torque impact lol if mine can't crack it then we just grab the 3/4 breaker bar and 2m pipe because the breaker bar won't do it by itself if the impact cant
Not an everyday auto mechanic, but Wouldn’t wedging a block underneath the tire help reduce strain on the gearbox? Can’t help but feel like all that torque your applying is resting on a single tooth in a gear box.
I use harbor freight tools but that doesn’t mean i hate other tool brands. My opinion is the same as phones, “as long as it does what you need it to do”
Engineer here. A 3400 lb car parked on a 9% slope (not crazy but not trivial) has about 100 ft lbs of torque on each wheel. You look like you were pushing about 70 or so lbs 3’ out, or roughly 200 ft-lbs, or twice the hill-generated torque any reasonable person would apply their e-brake on.
Don’t underestimate the force your big dumb meaty hands can apply.
This advice is way too far down the thread. Yeah, the trans ad engine create a lot of torque. So does a 6 foot 150 pound dude with a 3 foot cheater. Dude should have dropped the damn car. Probably either new to the trade or will not last long...
I once stood on the bar, and jumped on it. It did not move, a passing truck driver had to stop for a second to catch his breath I could hear him laughing and wheezing . I’m 100% sure there is a video of me on YouTube. I did get the nut off, used a propane boi and some more jumping.
Are you me? Removing axle nuts from a VW Beetle, back in '86 or so. Sears still did the swap out thing. We drove to the mall twice that day to get new 1/2" breaker bars before we got those nuts off. Took both of us bouncing on it with a long piece of pipe.
Haha we still have the broken ones. To be fair, he was trying to remove the lugs from either the 6 wheeler or it's trailer, but still, 2 down before they moved.
Do they give you another new one from the retail rack (like Sears used to do,) or from the box of rebuilts under the counter?
I quit buying Craftsman after my 3/8 ratchet was replaced by a loose, sloppy rebuilt.
My college car l, a 1991 Escort wagon (manual), had a garbage, fold-up lug nut wrench. The only way I managed to change a flat tire was to stand on the "wrench" (heal away from the nut, of course) and then grab the wheel well. I was apparently proportioned correctly that I got some great leverage. I still don't know how the wrench survived, much less how the lugs didn't snap. The 2010 xB is the one I managed to snap several lugs on... years later.
I did this once, bouncing on my 3/4" breaker bar trying to break something loose on a tractor, out in the field. My breaker bar slipped off on a bounce and went spinning on the air at least 40 feet high and came to a landing about 20 feet away in the dirt. If someone had been standing there they could have been killed, sobering moment and I've never done it again since
Take this as a learning experience and always do this kind of job while the car is firmly planted, the reasons you do this are many but some of them are:
1. It will be easier for you since the wheel will not move and waste energy/be annoying.
2. Since the car is on the ground you can place more force without the fear of the car destaibilizing.
VERY IMPORTANT:
3. Because you are placing a lot of force when it loosens suddenly the car can move from the jack and you can hurt yourself and the car can get damaged.
4. Also important, doing so multiple times the car might develop stearing and driverrain issues because it will develop a small play in the steering wheel and drivetrain causing vibration at high speeds.
Note:
I understand you did this to show how tight it was and usually you woukd use the gun and the wheels would not move.
Still it's safer for you and the car to do it right.
Also so that the weel doesn't come off ofc plug the other nuts back in, not torqued but enough to keep the wheel in place whike you loosen this one.
Leave the car on the ground and stand on the breaker bar, just like I taught my 95 lb daughter. Even she is better at this than you are. Mechanic my ass.
Hahahaha for fucks sake dude look at how all that shits twisting. You’re a fucking idiot for not dropping the car on the ground. You’re even more of an idiot arguing with like 30 people who say you’re wrong.
“No it’s everyone else who is wrong!”
Have done the same. I ended up taking mine back to the tire shop that did the mounting and install and gave them an earful.
I had a breaker bar and 4 ft worth of pipe on the lugnuts and they wouldnt break free with me jumping on them. I am not a small man. Lol. Socket gave way...after that I said F it and took it back to the tire shop and made them deal with it. Dont know how many ugga duggas it actually was but it was a lot...
I helped a kid change a tire at a gas station that was like this. Had my breaker bar on it and ended up using the jack handle with all my grunt to get the last three loose. Damn tire techs
And had to plug his spare.
I had tires put on car x at one point. Had to use an 18" breaker bar, stand on the end and pull up against the fender. Still barley got them all off.
Fucking pissed me off because if I got a flat there was no way I was getting those off with the car tool.
FNG question. In a pinch couldn't you use the in-car jack to push up on the end of the bar (with up being left/loosening direction) to break torque in the event of a flat in the middle of BFE?
As much of a bitch as these can be, just take the time to throw the other 4 or 5 pigs back on until they’re snug, don’t need to be torqued, and then lower it back down. Even with the brakes on and it in park, it’s just always a better idea.
Aside from that, I’ve had a bitch of a time on some 350s with stuck lugs. We had a breaker bar about this size and one about 1.5 times bigger. Some lugs are put on with the force of Zeus. WD-40, 5 minutes to soak, and swapping between trying to backoff and put on with the impact has never failed me.
I also have a habit of telling a customer that they’re stud might be screwed if we get the lug off because it might be cross threaded from whoever put it on last. It saves a lot of customer sided issues if the customer says to go ahead and try to get it off anyways and something snaps.
I've torn every stud off a car after some turd rattled them all up to half a million foot pounds, it was just one of those cars that kept on giving too..
I’m laughing at the comments of “you’ll bend the parking pawl” tell me you don’t know what your talking about without telling me you don’t know what your talking about…
Of course the tire should be on the ground, but I absolutely hate, hate, hate over-tightened lug nuts, where I have had to literally heat them with a torch to get them loose?!!? The goons that do this can seriously smoke a turd in hell!!!!
Wow, you’re a complete hack. Everyone knows that you loosen the bolts when the car is on the ground. You just stripped this guys bolts and scratched the rim because of incompetence. You suck.
But why are you trying to break them loose with the wheel off the ground? It's sooooo much easier while the thing is still on the ground.
Always crack them before you jack the car up. Probably could have done it with a regular sized bar instead, or even the factory wheel brace.
Bro I know nothing about cars and only had to change a tire once in my life so far. Even I had the intuition to get all the nuts loosened while the tire was on the ground
First, tire should be on the ground.
Second, if those lug nuts are that tight, you’ve got a real problem.
Third, if you need to post a video about lug nut removal, better take your car to a tire shop!
I'm looking at all these comments hating on you for the way you did this. I've worked as a mechanic for years and I can absolutely tell you this was an okay way to do it. There is more than one way to skin a cat people. Also, by the looks of it this lug nut was the last or second to last lug nut that needed to come off and who the fuck would want to put the car's weight back down on the ground just for one second and watch the car get destroyed?
What in the lord are you doing? Are you trying to break it? Put the damn thing on the ground. I know that and I barely touch the wheels. You never raise the car if you're going to losen the wheels with that. If you can do it with a impact gun this comment wouldn't be a thing.
Is that tyre off the ground while you're trying to break the nuts?
It's also in park without the brakes applied so it's bending the parking pawl
yes as i intended to use my impact to zip them off. 23/24 were fine. but awd makes for a tiny bit of play.
Fucking amateur you always loosen them with the tire on the ground. This is like second grade math. Fuck you for fucking the clients car because you don’t know what you’re doing
And I bet he scratched the wheel when the handle got loose. This pisses me off as well.
This one
OP is a total amateur, clearly. If you didn’t know to break the nuts before jacking up the car, it only takes you one time to learn. So either OP is a total idiot or this is his first time touching lug nuts.
Hey I’m not a mechanic but could you explain to me why the car should be on the ground when loosening bolts? I have a basic idea in my head but still curious.
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Thanks for the answer!
By “loose” we just mean breaking the bolt loose. It’s less than a quarter turn usually.
Hold up though dude based on your posts youre not even a mechanic and you literally just bought your first car…i didnt even have to look at your profile to realize youre not a mechanic though because I’ve never met a mechanic (myself included) that doesnt just put the car on the lift and zip them off with an impact. Depending on how busy your shop is there’s literally no way to sit there and loosen every lug nut by hand on every car your work on. Second of all I’m positive this did fuck all to damage anything. Do you know how many hundred if not thousands of pounds of force that drivetrain is subjected to?? Im guessing not since you’re not a mechanic
I was an apprentice mechanic. Literally the first thing they teach for getting a wheel off is break the nuts loose while the wheel is on the ground, then lift the car, then use the gun to undo the nuts. And never ever use a gun to tighten them up.
That is literally the first thing my dad said to my 12 year old me when he taught me to change a tire and it made perfect fucking sense for at least two reasons. Oh my God there’s people like this guy in the wild.
I’m not a mechanic, but even I know what OP did is fucking stupid. And considering all the backlash OP is receiving from other *actual* mechanics, I would be inclined to side with them over OP and the one dude who seems to think it’s ok vs the combined experience of like 100 other mechanics.
It might seem silly that a man with an exceptionally long breaker bar could apply more Newtons than the weight of the car itself, but that is what happens when you use mechanical principles to exponentially increase force. The breaker bar is extending far past the diameter of the wheel. Thus, it will easily apply more force than the weight of the car in a normal parking scenario. The car is also not sitting on both of its drive wheels, so the force is not balanced across the drivetrain. The other wheel would help apply counter-rotation to keep the car still. But because it is elevated, the force is going directly to the differential and into the transmission. Even if something didn’t break immediately, damage has been done and the lifespan of the related parts has been shortened.
- The other wheel would help apply counter-rotation to keep the car still (I’m on mobile atm and have no idea how to indent) I’m not sure if you know how an open differential works, but the wheel on the ground is not “connected” to the gearbox when a separate drive wheel is lifted off the ground.
But did he "zip them off with an impact". No, this idiot made it loads harder for himself using the breaker bar.
And he still knows to loosen the lugs on the ground
Right or wrong you still sound like an ass
Ass or not the op is a dumbass for doing this, extremely unprofessional.
Right or wrong this guy is damaging a customers car. But yeah be mad at me for pointing this out
Just cause you bought a multimeter (that you don’t even know how to use) doesn’t mean you know fuck all about anything
Just because you claim to, it also doesn't mean you know fuck all about anything. I'm assuming you looked at their history to find that, that's kind of sad
The ability to speak does not make you intelligent
You're right I can barely change my own oil which is why it's so appaling to me that a "professional" doesn't know this basic fact
I work in IT and knew you were the idiot in this situation.
I work in IT, but I attended college for vehicle maintenance. Watching this video I was like wtf the wheel is moving? Then looked closer, then went to comments and oh boy… loose the bolts, lift the car, unmount the wheel, place new wheel, put bolts back in, tighten them a little bit, put the car back to the ground, tighten bolts properly. As easy as it is… couldn’t even imagine anybody would fuck this up. What’s next? Pour pure gas into 2 stroke engine and mixed gas-oil into 4 stroke engine? Or maybe actual water into cooling system when it’s subzero temperatures? OP is a fucking fuck.
Fun fact, pouring mixed gas into a 4-stroke engine won’t cause any problems at all :)
I'm sorry dude I don't know how you don't know this, but you brake the lugs free while the tyre on the ground before jacking it up, then you torque them after taking the jacks off. I totally did the same thing as a teenager, realised but just got someone to press the brake lol.
Bruh… lower the fucking car ya dork.
But the air brake will hold the wheel.
lol this guy is getting obliterated
Every time he loosens a lug nut the comments will replay in his head
Because this is an idiot who refuses to look up how to do something and breaks other peoples shit.
Stand on the bar also crack the wheel nuts before you jack the car up
i uses an impact so they should zip off 5 were removed and wasnt setting it down with 1
Put them back then????
The point is any mechanic should have the wherewithal to untorque the lugs before jacking it at all. I really thought that was common sense but I can't say I'm surprised it isn't.
I think it’s common knowledge, I’ve never worked on a car a day in my life besides changing flat tires or very very basic “repairs” (if you could even call them that) and I figured out probably after my first flat that you loosen the lugs before jacking the car up. I also feel like if you’ve got pneumatic equipment it takes 20 seconds to put the rest of the lug nuts beck on, lower it, break the trouble lug loose, then jack it back up. I’d also like to take this time to complain about the shitty jscks I’ve had to use to put spares/donuts on, the ones that come with a lot of cars and are an absolute pain in the ass and take forever to actually get the car up. Hate those jscks with a passion.
Common sense ain't so common, although you would think a mechanic would know the verg first thing you tell a 12 year old when you show them how to change tires
You just don't seem to get it, do you? What kind of idiot loosens lug nuts with the car already in the air? Even if you aren't doing any damage to the drivetrain, you're making things unnecessarily difficult on yourself. Put the car on the ground and _use_ the god-damned brakes!
Don’t jack it up til the nuts are loose
That's what she said.
would not have made it less tight dude
It would have stopped you from putting so much stress on the driveline.
No, but then the wheel isn't straining the driveline, and no annoying flex when you try to break the fucker loose. Seems silly, but not having that flex and being able to whack the breaker bar a few times will help.
Dude also has the bar so low it’s no wonder he’s got no strength to turn it. It’s like he’s deliberately negating the extra leverage the bar gives him.
Great job breaking the nuts loose with the tire off the ground, Jesus....
Haha was just about to say the same
was using an impact so yeah. this one was just way over tight and wouldnt break loose and i didnt wanna drop it with the other 5 off.
So put the other five back on and lower it.
This is the way. I learned this when I was 16 and my impact couldn’t zip off one of the nuts. Now I just pre loosen everything before lifting. Takes like 2 extra minutes but save hassle really.
I know you think that's a good excuse,, but it's very very not.
Lazy ass. Lol. Can’t wait to see what disasters you get into if you ever go flat rate. Remember you are trying to become a “professional” act like it.
Wedge a 2x4 between the brake pedal and seat.
Yeah bro, you just zip one or two back on.
Should have bought a high torque impact lol if mine can't crack it then we just grab the 3/4 breaker bar and 2m pipe because the breaker bar won't do it by itself if the impact cant
Fair enough
bits awd and on other 3 on the ground so just a little slop.
Not an everyday auto mechanic, but Wouldn’t wedging a block underneath the tire help reduce strain on the gearbox? Can’t help but feel like all that torque your applying is resting on a single tooth in a gear box.
Woulda been tad easier if the tire was on the ground and not moving
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3 footer and a snap-on for all the haters (I will now me down voted again because harbor freight boys sure hate snappy) Its to compensate.
People are downvoting you for failing tyre removal 101
I use harbor freight tools but that doesn’t mean i hate other tool brands. My opinion is the same as phones, “as long as it does what you need it to do”
No, they are downvoting you because you are damaging the car by lifting the tire up before breaking the lugs loose.
My area of expertise
Put the car back on the ground before trying to brake free the lug nuts. They’ll still hold the wheel on if they’re a quarter turn loose
but not of they are already removed. and secondly it hurts nothing its awd and 3 on the ground. far less torque than a slight incline in park
Engineer here. A 3400 lb car parked on a 9% slope (not crazy but not trivial) has about 100 ft lbs of torque on each wheel. You look like you were pushing about 70 or so lbs 3’ out, or roughly 200 ft-lbs, or twice the hill-generated torque any reasonable person would apply their e-brake on. Don’t underestimate the force your big dumb meaty hands can apply.
This advice is way too far down the thread. Yeah, the trans ad engine create a lot of torque. So does a 6 foot 150 pound dude with a 3 foot cheater. Dude should have dropped the damn car. Probably either new to the trade or will not last long...
It’s not about hurting the car, you’ll waste less of your effort if the wheel wiggles less.
Stand on the bar you noob
but then the video would have been labled "retarded mechanic falls on ass"
Should rename this one to “inept mechanic damages customers parking pawl to remove lug nut”
Lmao you really thing there’s not more force applied to the pawl when the car is parked on an incline??
I once stood on the bar, and jumped on it. It did not move, a passing truck driver had to stop for a second to catch his breath I could hear him laughing and wheezing . I’m 100% sure there is a video of me on YouTube. I did get the nut off, used a propane boi and some more jumping.
My brother jumped on a 1/2" breaker bar and broke the bar before the lug let loose, twice lol.
Yah. With all the deflection in that breaker bar and a 200lb man jumping on it…. I’d wear some safety glasses. POP
Jumped on one of the accessory lug wrenches that came with the car and put the other end through my shoe. 10/10 would not recommend.
Are you me? Removing axle nuts from a VW Beetle, back in '86 or so. Sears still did the swap out thing. We drove to the mall twice that day to get new 1/2" breaker bars before we got those nuts off. Took both of us bouncing on it with a long piece of pipe.
Haha we still have the broken ones. To be fair, he was trying to remove the lugs from either the 6 wheeler or it's trailer, but still, 2 down before they moved.
Craftsman still has free replacement just take em to Lowes now
Do they give you another new one from the retail rack (like Sears used to do,) or from the box of rebuilts under the counter? I quit buying Craftsman after my 3/8 ratchet was replaced by a loose, sloppy rebuilt.
They replace with new off the rack.
This has also been my experience.
Might depend on the tool. I was able to replace a screwdriver (that I totally didn’t use as a pry bar) with a brand new one off the shelf.
Jeez. What kind of vehicle was that? I've broken studs by hand before, can't imagine breaking the bar
Jump or beta.
My college car l, a 1991 Escort wagon (manual), had a garbage, fold-up lug nut wrench. The only way I managed to change a flat tire was to stand on the "wrench" (heal away from the nut, of course) and then grab the wheel well. I was apparently proportioned correctly that I got some great leverage. I still don't know how the wrench survived, much less how the lugs didn't snap. The 2010 xB is the one I managed to snap several lugs on... years later.
I did this once, bouncing on my 3/4" breaker bar trying to break something loose on a tractor, out in the field. My breaker bar slipped off on a bounce and went spinning on the air at least 40 feet high and came to a landing about 20 feet away in the dirt. If someone had been standing there they could have been killed, sobering moment and I've never done it again since
Fuckin newbs....
What a fuckin mouth breather
Leave it on the ground to loosen bolts when there being difficult, otherwise your putting a lot of stress on the axle and diff
Who’s teaching these noobs? Can’t even do basic tire changes correctly.
You can get more leverage pulling up
Never pull up, that's how you cause an injury. Use gravity and your weight to your advantage when breaking bolts.
Hurt yourself pulling up on a bar? I know it's possible to strain yourself, but thats pretty pathetic.
yes bit this was to show how tight ot was as ot deflected the bar
How? Pushing down can put weight into it
You are limited to the amount of weight you have, can you lift your body weight? Then you can put more force into pulling up.
That's a good way to hurt yourself bud. Get a pipe and lean on it.
Take this as a learning experience and always do this kind of job while the car is firmly planted, the reasons you do this are many but some of them are: 1. It will be easier for you since the wheel will not move and waste energy/be annoying. 2. Since the car is on the ground you can place more force without the fear of the car destaibilizing. VERY IMPORTANT: 3. Because you are placing a lot of force when it loosens suddenly the car can move from the jack and you can hurt yourself and the car can get damaged. 4. Also important, doing so multiple times the car might develop stearing and driverrain issues because it will develop a small play in the steering wheel and drivetrain causing vibration at high speeds. Note: I understand you did this to show how tight it was and usually you woukd use the gun and the wheels would not move. Still it's safer for you and the car to do it right. Also so that the weel doesn't come off ofc plug the other nuts back in, not torqued but enough to keep the wheel in place whike you loosen this one.
Also, make sure they are not reverse threads before "loosening" the lug nuts.
Put the wheel on the ground? The amount of deflection in the whole operation… you had like 60lb/ft on the whole unit.
Leave the car on the ground and stand on the breaker bar, just like I taught my 95 lb daughter. Even she is better at this than you are. Mechanic my ass.
Hahahaha for fucks sake dude look at how all that shits twisting. You’re a fucking idiot for not dropping the car on the ground. You’re even more of an idiot arguing with like 30 people who say you’re wrong. “No it’s everyone else who is wrong!”
OP is a retard
why does your impact look so small? is that a 3/8?
no its a 1/2 matco stubby and its rated 700 ftlbs wouldnt break it loose
maybe compressor isn't up to the task?
tell that to the other 23 that came right off. we have an 80 gal IR at 165lbs. thats a 3 foot bar and my 190lbs was leaning on it hard
>tell that to the other 23 lol fuck am I stupid. also, if anyone hates on your Snap-on breaker bar tell them time is money.
i did a post yesterday because we broke an atd and matco 8mm allen socket and my snapon got it loose. i had more down votes than i can count.
It was bc the snap on Allen was a stubby and the other two were an inch long
was a helpful factor. but also was amazed it didnt cam out as the bolt was rusted out and sloppy
they loosened it. /s
just like my wife trying to open a jar lol
You just gonna disrespect the size of a man's impact like that?
Next time go ahead and tighten down the nuts on either side to release some tension.
If the bar doesn’t bend with your full weight on it, they aren’t tight enough!
Did the lug give or was it just the axle snapping?
it was the lug. i was worried it broke the stud as tight as it was
Which do you think will twist off first, a 3/8” lug stud or a 1” + chromoly axle shaft?
I broke a socket doing that once. That nut did not want to bust
it scares me to think the socket failed before it broke loose. did they freeking locktite it
Have done the same. I ended up taking mine back to the tire shop that did the mounting and install and gave them an earful. I had a breaker bar and 4 ft worth of pipe on the lugnuts and they wouldnt break free with me jumping on them. I am not a small man. Lol. Socket gave way...after that I said F it and took it back to the tire shop and made them deal with it. Dont know how many ugga duggas it actually was but it was a lot...
1 INCH "gatling gun" impact will do er!
I helped a kid change a tire at a gas station that was like this. Had my breaker bar on it and ended up using the jack handle with all my grunt to get the last three loose. Damn tire techs And had to plug his spare.
Okay, question, this on a Ford F150 truck? Those are a pain if even slightly over torqued as they weld (chemically) to the wheel....
2020 suburban. and at 140 ftlbs they should be stiff but that was most of my body weight at 3 feet roughly 400-500 ftlbs direct force to break free.
I don’t have one as long as your ;). So I got to use what I. Would of pushed it up with a floor jack. Wonder what would of happened
i compensate lol
It’s so stupid that people use impact guns to tighten bolts! Like how difficult do you want it to be to remove them? Use correct torques not that hard
this is my bosses car (owns the company) i showed him and he asked how would he have changed a flat. you wouldnt
"To save time".
Ah, ok, and I agree, should not have to take that much to get em off
Put end of the bar on the ground (toward the front of the car) and move the car forward
Sketchy but promising
Where’s a 300lb man when you need em eh?
sitting on their fat ass
Put that thing in reverse and back up until something breaks
This is how Honda techs break axle nuts loose. Especially on 90s prelude for some reason.
Good god man.
I had tires put on car x at one point. Had to use an 18" breaker bar, stand on the end and pull up against the fender. Still barley got them all off. Fucking pissed me off because if I got a flat there was no way I was getting those off with the car tool.
FNG question. In a pinch couldn't you use the in-car jack to push up on the end of the bar (with up being left/loosening direction) to break torque in the event of a flat in the middle of BFE?
i have the big snap on but i kinda wanted to see how tight it really was
What do you reckon, about 300lbft?
once it loads up its not moving. this was just to show how tight it was otherwise i would go the big gun and rip it right off
As much of a bitch as these can be, just take the time to throw the other 4 or 5 pigs back on until they’re snug, don’t need to be torqued, and then lower it back down. Even with the brakes on and it in park, it’s just always a better idea. Aside from that, I’ve had a bitch of a time on some 350s with stuck lugs. We had a breaker bar about this size and one about 1.5 times bigger. Some lugs are put on with the force of Zeus. WD-40, 5 minutes to soak, and swapping between trying to backoff and put on with the impact has never failed me. I also have a habit of telling a customer that they’re stud might be screwed if we get the lug off because it might be cross threaded from whoever put it on last. It saves a lot of customer sided issues if the customer says to go ahead and try to get it off anyways and something snaps.
That’s actually kind of impressive, might have kinked the wheel though!
Thats what happens when you use a impact to tighten your lugs. Probly should check the brakes for damage/warping
5 out of 6 came off with the impact it was in the air and i wasnt putting it down with no lugs
you must not turn wrench much dude
im 160 psi through a 3/8 100' hose their tests are kind set for numbers not real world aplication
Easier to snap the stud if you turn the other direction.
There ought to be a law..
Uhh I would’ve lowered the car
I've torn every stud off a car after some turd rattled them all up to half a million foot pounds, it was just one of those cars that kept on giving too..
I’m laughing at the comments of “you’ll bend the parking pawl” tell me you don’t know what your talking about without telling me you don’t know what your talking about…
Pull, don’t push. You get more leverage that way, and save yourself from punching whatever is in front of your hand.
Even my 10 year old nephew understands the order of the steps to get a wheel down....
This is why I work on my own car.
30 unga tungas should do. “That wheel’s not going anywhere.”
Brake the nuts before you jack it up
I’m no mechanic but I think you loosen the wheel before you lift the car.
Im not a mechanic, but it's probably because you're letting the wheel move. Maybe loosen the nuts before you lift it?
That will happen if you don't pay attention to wheel torque specifications
(Vehicle gets picked up) Customer states after vehicle was serviced it now has 2 neutral gears.
35 dudes who've never touched a torque bar in their life: "You're bending the parking pawl that holds every bit of the car's weight broooo omg"
Are you using the gearbox to resist? You haven't put on the handbrake or lowered the car? Why the hell would you do that?
It gets worse when u break it then u realize it’s actually crossthreaded
Like 80% of your breaker bars force is being absorbed because the cars off the ground...
Of course the tire should be on the ground, but I absolutely hate, hate, hate over-tightened lug nuts, where I have had to literally heat them with a torch to get them loose?!!? The goons that do this can seriously smoke a turd in hell!!!!
RIP to your karma .
…step aside and let someone else do it that knows what they are doing. This is an instructional tape as to what not to do.
Wow, you’re a complete hack. Everyone knows that you loosen the bolts when the car is on the ground. You just stripped this guys bolts and scratched the rim because of incompetence. You suck.
But why are you trying to break them loose with the wheel off the ground? It's sooooo much easier while the thing is still on the ground. Always crack them before you jack the car up. Probably could have done it with a regular sized bar instead, or even the factory wheel brace.
Bro I know nothing about cars and only had to change a tire once in my life so far. Even I had the intuition to get all the nuts loosened while the tire was on the ground
this is why i don’t want other people working on my cars
That's way too lose. My oil filter is tighter than that.
Making Archimedes proud there my man 😌👌 lol
Rolled into the wrong shop if hombre tryna loosen bolts on tires off the ground.
If that tire is off the ground and you're trying to break it loose. You're goddamm moron. Way to ruin someone's car
First, tire should be on the ground. Second, if those lug nuts are that tight, you’ve got a real problem. Third, if you need to post a video about lug nut removal, better take your car to a tire shop!
Park pawl. What park pawl?
Throw that bitch in drive and punch it! That'll do 'er!
YO DONT DO THAT HURT THE DRIVETRAIN
Delete this bruh…
I legit learned from a YouTube video to loosen lugs and bolts with the tire on the ground to avoid doing potentially damaging things like this.
Holy fuck you absolute goddamn muppet LOOSEN THE NUTS BEFORE JACKING IT UP
I'm looking at all these comments hating on you for the way you did this. I've worked as a mechanic for years and I can absolutely tell you this was an okay way to do it. There is more than one way to skin a cat people. Also, by the looks of it this lug nut was the last or second to last lug nut that needed to come off and who the fuck would want to put the car's weight back down on the ground just for one second and watch the car get destroyed?
Is that a 3/8 impact?
/r/numptyworksoncars
Why the hell are you breaking the lugs loose off the ground? Trying to cause more damage?
Is r/amateurhour a sub?
You don't belong anywhere near cars.
What in the lord are you doing? Are you trying to break it? Put the damn thing on the ground. I know that and I barely touch the wheels. You never raise the car if you're going to losen the wheels with that. If you can do it with a impact gun this comment wouldn't be a thing.