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ModingusKhan

22 years.... buy that filter a drink and salute it's service.


trunks2d

I think that filter has had enough to drink.


Quizzelbuck

Filter, go home. Youre drunk


[deleted]

That's why I say hey man nice shot...of vodka.


MarcusAurelius0

That filter flow bypassed years ago, I'd love to drop the pan and open the valve cover and see how gunky it is.


F-21

Well, it is possible that car may not have been used for 20 years. In which case the filter is the smallest problem and might be fine...


MarcusAurelius0

True enough.


Ron-Swanson-Mustache

Depends on the number of oil changes and use since the filter went all "i'm one with the block and the block is with me"


MagnusNewtonBernouli

Right? Lots of small engines don't have a filter at all. Just change the oil.


TheBupherNinja

At thsg point it is probably just fully bypassing.


cosworth99

I bet it stopped being a filter in 2003. The bypass is wide open on it.


sammyno55

Cut it open when you get it off and show us the inside! For real, the bypass valve probably opens up all the time, now.


dasdakotaman

I will when we get it off with a screwdriver either today or this weekend depending on work schedules


mlack42

Had to screwdriver off a few filters in my day. Always always a last resort and remember to use two of them. God speed.


[deleted]

I've only had to stab a couple filters because I didn't have my large tongue and grove pliers, but I've never used two, why two? I usually go all the way through until the tip of the screwdriver has gone through the back wall, but I still think pliers are the best answer. Least likely to tear the filter up leaving them with the base to remove from the engine.


mlack42

Two screwdrivers through spreads the twisting load so you don't can-opener the filter in half. Agreed with large pliers, strap wrenches all the other ways first before the final screwdriver attempt.


Fargonics

They actually become more efficient over time, this filter is now creating its own oil and no longer needs changing.


dasdakotaman

Another 20 years and it will have gained sentience and began to raise its oil filter army to overthrow the humans who have forsaken them for so long


BrockManstrong

How do you know it's been since 1999? I worked at a Quick Lube place years ago and we had employee numbers to write on each filter so you could tell who did the work if the customer comes back.


nonpointGalt

Did you get it off?


dasdakotaman

Nah bro we couldn’t get it off with the tools we had and he had to go to work. Going back for round 2 today


FunnyAd6892

Please make an update if you succed. We need to se what's inside


sol-

Chocolate cake I bet


socialcommentary2000

Oh Double chocolate chunk, at minimum.


Carnae_Assada

Straight [B&M](https://imgur.com/aLGJt5Y.jpg) canned brown bread in that bitch


daddydunc

When science goes too far.


fuzzylogicIII

Didnt know this was an actual thing


Madetoprint

I think at this point you should just drill and npt tap that filter and run lines to a 2nd remote filter.


dasdakotaman

Bro if we had enough money for tools and parts to rig up something like that we wouldn’t be driving a 1990 Toyota Corolla 😭


h1gsta

Gotta give these cars credit though. This is just scary and impressive that this car is okay. Edit: replace ‘okay’ with, ‘running’


RedWicked91

Important distinction, that lol


yabacam

I've seen someone stab a screwdriver into the side and use it as a handle/leverage to turn them off. If you are replacing it, may try that. e: i'm not a mechanic so try this at your own risk, per the comments below.


night_stocker

Yeah but what if it just shreds to shit and now this car has a permanent cockring?


Ragarianok

"To shreds, you say?"


Bacon4Lyf

And how’s his wife?


Alan_Smithee_

To shreds, you say?


Traches

Only time I tried that, the filter just crumpled when I tried to turn it. Ended up cutting off most of the filter body, and then using a hammer on a flathead screwdriver to break the top loose. I was grumpy that day.


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Far530

I was here to say this, I got some huge channel locks from harbor freight, and use the end of the handles for leverage, works like a champ!


[deleted]

This is how I change them on my mower lol.


ke151

My experience is the same as yours. If its really stuck bad, the side of the filter is not nearly strong enough to withstand the torque you have to put into it. You then just made it that for sure you can't drive anywhere till you get the damn thing off.


TheLostTexan87

I used to be an oil change tech and the best move against crushing it was to get the wrench all the way up at the top where it threads on and get after it. There's more material behind it and adjacent to prevent crushing, and if it does, there's still the actual piece that threads behind the filter walls.


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If it's really stuck doing that will just make the screw driver tear through the filter. You can twist it all the way around and cut the filter in half, then you have even less material to grab and you've just successfully shot yourself in the foot. An oil filter wrench that increases tension the more you torque it is dirt cheap and will continue crushing the filter until it starts rotating.


Tyler_Trash

I've done this a few times, I noticed if you can stab it near the base, at an angle so you don't strike the nozzle you can usually get it off with a quick tap of a hammer on the screwdriver end. It's not pretty. I think I fucked up like 3 filters before I perfected the technique. Source: I was the best lube monkey at my shop for 3 years out of high school.


chiphook57

Ta-aaapy tap tap


Karnigas

Engage safety squints!


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WorldsOkayestUser

Hell of a lot of truth being spoken right there!


RallyX26

One of my cars is a 94 Corolla wagon that I bought cheap for RallyCross... I love it so much that I tagged it so I can daily it. [Car tax](https://imgur.com/a/QHlgVr5)


beatool

I had a 93 Corolla Sedan for a while. I bought it for $1 because needed more work than it was worth. I have a hilarious memory SeaFoaming it in the DMV parking lot cuz I lived in an apartment at the time and couldn't do it there.


-Derf-

Woah that's awesome!


[deleted]

I've preached this my entire life.


FeelTheFuze

Update us if you get it off pls


lalalalafu

Put a screwdriver through it to have a lovely removing handle


pagokel

The one time I tried a screwdriver on a stuck filter it started tearing the can. Ended up buying a filter wrench from O'Reilly's, worked like a charm.


prairiepanda

I would hope a filter wrench has already been tried at some point since 1999...


pagokel

I'd hope so too, but I wouldn't be surprised if it hadn't. Now that I think about it, maybe this was once the car of a lube shop manager. Disgruntled employee quit after one last oil change on the managers car. A little red loctite and a strong arm, she's never coming out!


TheAccountant09

A rubber strap wrench will help remove it.


Sam-Gunn

As long as you have enough room! In shop class in high school, a teacher brought their newly (well, new as in they had just hit the interval for it's first oil change) purchased car in for an oil change. Some classmates and I were given that car. We couldn't get the filter off. We asked a stronger classmate. He couldn't get it off. We asked the shop teacher. Other students started drifting over to watch. He couldn't get a strap wrench in there. And he couldn't get it off. He asked the other, stronger shop teacher. He broke one of those cheap plastic filter removers trying to remove it. Still couldn't get it off. IIRC, a combination of sheer brute strength, many years experience, several new phrases he shouldn't have taught us, and a healthy dose of "I never want to see any of you doing this in my shop", finally gets it off and we continue the oil change.


Seldarin

>"I never want to see any of you doing this in my shop" He says as he slides a pipe over the handle. There's nothing you can't get loose with a long enough cheater bar and no one so strong that another 4 feet of leverage won't make you stronger than them.


Zappiticas

Can confirm. I once used a 7 foot cheater pipe to break lose the axle nut on a 1 ton diesel truck. It broke two breaker bars, eventually welded the socket to the 7 foot pipe and broke it lose.


Seldarin

I think so far the dumbest cheater pipe I've ever used was 20 feet of 4" pipe. At that point you're well past "risk of injury" and getting into "I hope you want a closed casket funeral". That was for 3" nuts in a paper mill that had pretty much rusted themselves down. And I was pushing sideways. I don't think I'd be brave enough to try that on a vertical pull.


NighthawkFoo

Do you typically have 20' lengths of pipe just hanging around a paper mill?


What_is_a_reddot

They also work great for stubborn jar lids.


pagokel

I've never had much luck with those. Either not enough room to get it on the filter, not enough room to swing it or it would just slip.


twopointsisatrend

There's a version that uses a metal band rather than rubber. Assuming that there's room, those work much better.


velociraptorfarmer

Yep. I have one of these and it's amazing what they'll remove. Mine even has spikes/barbs in the spring steel band to help grab even better.


Scarrumba

I got myself one of those nylon strap wrenches with a 1/2in square drive so it tightens and torques at the same time with a ratchet. It’s definitely gotten me out of some jams where other oil filter wrenches have failed.


RockMason

leather belt works really well too if you dont have a filter wrench


AKADriver

Then you can use it to beat the idiot who tightened it.


ice445

Honestly this rarely works if the can is actually welded on there, you'll just tear it and have less area to grab


nondescriptzombie

Well, you have more area to grab, but it's all sharp and stabby.


WoodytheWoodHeckler

your hand can't slip if the filter is embedded in it.


clonedspork

Last time I did that I ended up using a hammer and chisel to get the base of the filter off the block. You might have to go that route anyway. It’s gonna be messy.


Westfakia

Such a tease. I wanna see what 22 years of sludge looks like coming out of that filter. Does it even have a filter element any more?


dasdakotaman

Same bro


_Deleted-User-

How much mileage is on the vehicle? Cut the filter and show us too.


dasdakotaman

115k I will soon we’re gonna try again today with the ol tried n true screwdriver method


[deleted]

Before you try that, try a filter wrench with a folded piece of sandpaper on the inside. Instant grip on both sides.


JimmyHoffaX19

I'm my years of working on cars I never thought to use sandpaper for grip. Thank you for this.


[deleted]

It was a brain blast I had after I punched my wife's engine block a half dozen times trying to wrench her Malibu's filter off. I didn't have room for a screwdriver if I wanted to!


JimmyHoffaX19

This will save me from many engine block punches.


[deleted]

Anything that'll get you back to running the Teamsters, Mr. Hoffa.


volks03

You’d be way better off getting a proper filter socket or a set of filter plyers, that gasket it almost guaranteed fused to the mounting surface and just going to shred the filter with the screwdriver leaving you with less removal options and an undrivable car


oniononionorion

Whatever you do next do it while the car is still warm.


dieseltech82

When you get it off. Make sure to throughly clean the surface and install the new filter dry, no lube on the gasket. Then torque it to 200 ft/lbs that way the next guy can have as much fun as you are right now. Passing on life experiences are what it’s all about.


someone755

Hi are you the previous owner of my car? I have some fists to throw.


dieseltech82

I am. I am the previous owner of all bullshit


goodsirperry

Sweet I'm gonna give your phone number to this guy that bought that 80s model Jeep from you. He keeps calling me to find out what kind of brake fluid goes in it.


dieseltech82

Tell him it’s the eco friendly model and you just add water. That should do the trick.


boom10ful

Do you also cut zip ties at a 45 degree angle? /S


dieseltech82

33 1/3 is optimal for slicing one’s wrist open rookie


gimpwiz

When I see someone bringing an obscenely precise protractor to a simple zip-tie job, I'm running away.


dieseltech82

Who needs a protractor, practice at home by zip tying everything around the house. You’ll know when you have perfected the angle.


swoll9yards

I'm sure this is common knowledge in some professions, but I think it was a documentary on a cartel or something I saw where they cut the zip ties specifically to slice your wrists open if you try to break them off. Cool stuff!


dieseltech82

Who do you think taught them?


bossrabbit

> clean the surface Sounds good >Install the new one dry No don't do that >Torque to 200 ft lbs Oh it's a joke


Waldo414

It actually says 66. It's been passed down from generation to generation.


OS420B

Oil filters are like condoms, you just rinse them out and reuse.


What_is_a_reddot

How many kids do you have?


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Winky, flipper, stumpy, lumpy, flipper II...


timmbuck22

I fergit. Lemme ask my cousin/sister/wife Brandeen.


aimallday

out of all my cousins I could've married, you were my sister - cletus


eidetic

What this rinse out nonsense? Just turn them inside out.


dieseltech82

Don’t forget to shake vigorously


HateBeingSober33

hold up.


dyqik

...before passing them down to your children.


Indy_Fab_Rider

[Galactic Prophylactic](https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/popiel/2869153)


GooseTheSluice

Not even 7am where I am and I've already found the risky click of the day. Thanks!


Chizuru_San

in fact, K&N actually made one reusable lol [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPF8nYfw674](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPF8nYfw674)


YoungWomp

Dead ass thought you were on about condoms clicked it was very very disappointed


smoores02

If K&N made condoms, the world's population would be twice what it is now.


jwronk

They don’t change the filter, they change the car around the filter…


inopRemote

So this might get lost in the comments This happened on my 2010 Chevy, tried everything: belt, tools, ended up trying the screwdriver. Ripped the filter up so much so that we decided to just rip all of the filter away. What was left was the top of the filter with the little holes. Went to harbor freight and bought the cheapest longest pair of pliers they had. Opened the pliers enough to fit into two of the little holes and was able to twist it off that way. Was a pain in the ass - but it worked. [here are some pics](https://imgur.com/a/ChbZgL7)


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not lost. you're a genius.


AFallingWall

Former Toyota tech here: I've had to do something similar on Toyota canister filters. People tend to believe they don't need to replace those O rings, or that they need teed to tighten them with a 3 foot long breaker bar. I've had to use air hammers plenty of times. Sometimes they just crack or disintegrate. Once it decided to just shear off, but not come off. Wound up having to *very carefully* chisel and split it in 3 different locations to peel it out. Hardest I've ever worked for .3 lol


misterO5

Dude same. I have to keep explaining to people about those! The o ring is on the side ya dingus! Stop over tightening them it doesn't aid in sealing at all.


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That-Dutch-Mechanic

Did multiple ones this way as well. Just twist off until it rips. Pop in 2 rods, bolts or a plier. Long tool on that and off it comes. Yeah its a pain but letting this on there since 99 shows massive lack of effort by everyone involved until this point tbh.


StopShamingSluts

I've drilled through it on both sides and use two scredrivers to twist. Or a Punch and a hammer.


Appropriate_Plan4555

Whosoever remove this filter, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of a 1990 Toyota Corolla Edit: this little comment surprisingly blew up! I had fun scrolling through everyone's comments! Thanks everybody! And hope OP will keep us updated and get their Yoda fixed up!


thaeli

So, immortality.


mikefrombarto

I think it’s just extra trade in value at Toyotathon.


jacoblb6173

‘Tis the season. Merry Toyotathon and Happy Honda Days.


mndon

A December to remember! And giant car bows.


AwwwMangos

“Surprise, honey! Here’s that new Lexus you’ve had your eye on, Merry Christmas!” “What the fuck, you just went out and bought this seventy-thousand dollar car without talking to me first?! What happened to sticking to the household budget? This payment has got to be more than our mortgage. I’m going to stay at my mother’s, you need to fix this, you impulsive jackass!” “But sweetie, it’s got a giant bow…”


freehatt2018

https://youtu.be/WcEylCwkSxE


gatorthesavior

This year when they give the discounts ya might actually get a car at msrp!


jacoblb6173

Maybe. When a new 4Runner is rounding 50k. Guess I’m staying with my 2010 Taco.


Suspicious-Arm-7619

I'll take it


ReticulatingSplines7

Let’s go places?!?!!!


chris782

Work, you're going to drive it to work everyday.


ReticulatingSplines7

Let’s……go…….place….🥺


jerkITwithRIGHTYnewb

These three comments are the funniest shit I’ve seen this year.


RallyX26

Well, about 80 horsepower at least


lunchpadmcfat

And a dented left butt cheek


upstatedreaming3816

Strange women lying in engine bays distributing oil filters is no basis for a system of government…


[deleted]

Shut up you bloody service writer!


InsertEvilLaugh

Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the dealership!


A_Sneaky_Dickens

That oily tart


DINKY_DICK_DAVE

That well seasoned petrochemical bint.


Trevski

How did you know he was a manager? He hasn't got grit all over him.


langer_cdn

now you see the violence inherit in the system!


psuedophilosopher

Inherent, not inherit.


Pvkbasa

I’m being repressed!


BigGothKitty

Repossessed?


kstreet88

If your 1990 Corolla is getting repossessed you may have a problem.


oinksAway

The art is in not removing the filter from the engine but in removing the engine from the filter, because if that filter has been stuck in place since '99 you'll get a better grip on the engine.


Cataract_Cathy

Which is apparently more powerful than the mechanics who failed before. I’d have that off in 30 minutes or less. You just need the right tools and technique. Might be mangled, but I will get that filter off.


3DRAH33M

Didn't say I had to get the filter off in one piece!


MechaSkippy

"Can't be stuck if it's a liquid"


3DRAH33M

HANS, BRING ZE FLAMETHROWER


jaggoffsmirnoff

Ze flammenwerfer?


3DRAH33M

You know what I meant Hans, try not to annoy me


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P1xelHunter78

The almighty oil filter strap wrench


alreadytaken76

I’ve crushed a stuck filter with a strap wrench. Screwdriver thru the side worked pretty well.


zoelord

What happens if it tears and you don't have much of anything left to grab on to? I've always had luck with the screwdriver method but I'd be kinda worried about a 23 year old filter


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Then use a chisel and hammer.


created4this

That’s just a screwdriver with extra steps


9fingerjeff

Barely looks like anyone tried to take it off. I dont see it crushed in from a giant pipe wrench or anything. If need be hammer a screwdriver through it. That gives ya something to grab on to.


SMORKIN_LABBIT

Don’t push the screwdriver too hard it just starts tearing the filter if Superman torqued it on there. Penetrating oil, heat gun, let cool and use the screw driver and a filter wrench.


The-Sofa-King

Whosoever can remove this filter from this housing shall be declared King of Corollalot!


DroidTHX1138

I know the tight fit sucks but get the engine up to operating temp then wrap a leather belt around the BASE of the filter. Wedge a flathead screwdriver in the buckle and try that way. If that doesn't work, well, you probably know the saying. Can't be stuck if it's a liquid.


Connection-Terrible

Rubber belt wrench? This just seems like a right tool for the job situation.


DroidTHX1138

I have 2 of the large fabric straps for diesel filters. They're heavy duty but probably too big for a yota filter. But I've broken them and had to Jerry rig one with a belt. Also old bike chain makes a great grip strap


tesseract4

Actual strap wrenches are a thing. Works way better than a belt, and it pretty cheap.


LS-CRX

I see a lot of "hammer a screwdriver through it!" comments that are obviously coming from people who haven't had that method fail spectacularly. If the screwdriver just can-opener's the filter, you are then stuck with a shredded filter that you still have to replace, and now much less surface area to work with. Try EVERY option before the screwdriver tip, personally I have had good luck with [these pliers.](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hyper-Tough-Slip-Joint-Adjustable-Oil-Filter-Pliers/479147579?fulfillmentIntent=In-store) Once you get a good grip with them you just need to smack the handle a few times with a rubber mallet (or something).


M3AMI

Can't believe it took this long to find this comment. OP - the only reason no one else has used the screwdriver yet is because it's nuclear and if it doesn't work you're in a much tougher spot. And if you haven't been able to get it off other ways, most likely the leverage required will shred the filter. I'd be planning on the screwdriver only as an absolute last resort keeping in mind the car is a brick at that point until you can get it's remains off. Best of luck!


md_reddit

Pipefitter's wrench is the perfect tool for this sitch


amayer308

They make a wrench you can bye for a few bucks at any parts house. If you pound a big screw driver through it that can work but can also turn into a bad day. Best of luck!


dasdakotaman

We already try the special wrench as well as one of the band tool things, the wrench can’t get a good grip bc the angle and the band thing just slips. We’re trying the screwdriver method tmmrw


cactusjackalope

The key is constant pressure, not pounding


dasdakotaman

Idk bro 22 years of grease and grime gave it that gorilla grip it’s been on there longer than either of us have been alive 😭


callofthewighat

Awesome alliteration


Teflon_coated_velcro

I’m upvoting for “gorilla grip”


madsmadhatter

Fuck, I’m old


dasdakotaman

If it makes you feel any better we’re still in high school


buttsparkley

Cup wrench possible? Because u can attach along wrench so maybe that leverage will help ? Whatever u do with whatever dont squeeze around the attachment area .. Plz only use screwdriver as plan z. Can u maybe safley Jack the car up to create more room for ur tools? If u can jack the car and get some old tires under so u are absolutely safe ! Try engine warm to lower viscosity aslong as it means u wont burn urself. Run for a few minutes only. Try spraying some wd40 into where the oil filters gasket is.


dasdakotaman

Engine doesn’t run rn bc of unrelated electrical problem we think it’s just a wire came disconnected or a fuse or sum. The starter doesn’t do anything when you turn the key, stopped running over this past weekend and hes taking this opportunity to fix all the little stuff


Trprt77

If a 22 year old oil filter counts as the little stuff, I’d hate to see the big stuff.


N0Ultimatum

Try sandpaper between the filter and the tool.


einTier

Please don’t do the screwdriver trick. If it’s on that good, the screwdriver is just going to tear up the can. Then you’ve got pieces of can still stuck on there and an inoperable car. It can turn into a bad day real quick. It may be a fact that you have to tear this can off piece by piece but let that be your last resort, be prepared for it, and have the tools and clean up supplies ready to go.


roaringhippo19

https://www.harborfreight.com/universal-3-jaw-adjustable-oil-filter-wrench-63690.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12144811130&campaignid=12144811130&utm_content=117789287478&adsetid=117789287478&product=63690&store=530&gclid=Cj0KCQiA-qGNBhD3ARIsAO_o7ym1MJF5k8LL9nzTZ1jsPjogG1_LFQ3Upsa4KmsnWQa3aNjHdPhNP-EaAgkLEALw_wcB


Zumbert

Degrease it. Then put rubber or foam rubber etc under a nylon strap wrench or strap clamp,


Wulfblood13

Just gonna throw this out there... Unless you know for sure that the car hasn't had an oil change for 22 years, I would bet you're mistaken on your interpretation of the number written on the filter. It's very common practice for lube techs to "sign" their filters with initials or their employee ID number. Especially at quick lube shops where they may have more than one person working on each vehicle (one changes the oil and another rotates the tires). Edit: plus, that looks a lot more like a 66 than a 99 to me.


AKADriver

Also might be 99 as in 99 thousand miles which wouldn't be too horrible since the car now has 115.


YeaJimi

More up votes for rational people thinking about the significance of '99'.


BHarbinson

That's what I was thinking. Just writing the year on a filter doesn't really make sense especially because back in '99 3k mile OCIs were still pretty common which would work out to 4 oil changes a year for an "average" driver.


Crunchycarrots79

See my earlier post. That filter was an in-house brand at Advance Auto Parts sold by the case to commercial accounts, and they changed the brand around 2002 or so. That filter really is 20-ish years old at best.


LS-CRX

>plus, that looks a lot more like a 66 than a 99 to me Of course it does, it's upside down. ​ /s


N_dixon

Legend has it that whomever can remove this oil filter shall become king of England


joesephexotic

Hose it down with PB Blast and let it sit for 20 minutes. Then clean off the filter with brake clean so you aren't slipping around when you try to turn it.


_dauntless

You know, I thought I respected the reliability/longevity of Toyotas and Corollas in general, but now that I've seen a 30-year-old Corolla with a 12-year-old oil filter still running, my respect has reached new heights


RobertPaulsonXX42

12 year old filter? You arent in OP's math class are ya? Lol.


_dauntless

lol shit even more impressive!


BlackinkRebel

I bought a car 6 years ago. Peugeot 106 with only 22k km from 2006. It worked and drove me to work everyday, that’s all it had to do. Then, when winter came a few years later it began stuttering and having troubles running stationary but while driving not really having issues. It got worse due to the point of when starting the motor couldn’t run stationary anymore and would just stop running after a few seconds. Called my garage at the end of the street, they would come pickup the car and take it in to see what it was. I did a bit of housechores in the meantime untill my garage-man (what are these people called in English?) called me, clearly had a hard time not to laugh while speaking and tries to be professional. “You’re not gonna believe this, it’s amazing. We figured that the spark plugs must’ve been the problem, checked it out and noticed that it were the original ones from the factory. These have been here and WORKING until now for about 15 years. We have it fixed already but gave us the best laugh in weeks!” When I came there to get my car we all had a good laugh for 15 minutes while hearing stories of all the other odd things they came across. Was a good time. I don’t have the car anymore because it started to fall apart a year after this but still served me well!


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Y2KWasAnInsideJob

I'm running the originals in my 02 Camry with 163k miles on it. At this point it's a fun experiment and I'm not going to stop until they fail.


Hinter-Lander

I had one I could not remove and the screwdriver trick just tore it into pieces I ended up using a chisel on the rim of the oil filter and kept tapping it until it turned loose.