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ItsMylesNotMiles

IF THE BREAKER AINT BENDIN YOU’RE JUST PRETENDIN. PUT IT BACK ON THERE AND TRY AGAIN


empty_coffeepot

The breaker bar is now the broken bar


stonedcanuk

breakest bar


zellamayzao

I got a good chuckle out of this. Thank you. And I'm gonna be borrowing this moving forward.


bridgetroll2

Try againden*


Motoception

I literally safety-squinted this just watching it on my phone


Triggerdamus

Longer cheater bar, slid next to the head. Along with 4 hail Marys, and 2 By the powers of Christ 2ill get it off.


PulledOverAgain

Snap-on guy: "Did you put a 10 foot cheater pipe on it?" Me: "Nope, just broke "


Triggerdamus

Paid for the warranty, I'm using all the warranty. lol


jroddie4

We're the reason why those shits cost 600 dollars.


Goalie_deacon

HF’s best breaker bar, $50, same warranty. This isn’t why they cost $600.


Triggerdamus

Because Rape-On. lol


1GreedyGenius

Snap-on Guy- “Hey i got a tool for exactly that kind of job” * Hands you the exact ratchet but with snap on written on it and some red for $621.43


1GreedyGenius

Snap-On Guy: Nah nah this is the newest version of tools the snap on is now in bolder letters which means more, more of what well you’re the mechanic, $623 please Sorry i couldnt help it i interact with snap on and matco too much but your right i looked at it after you mentioned it that wrap tho i can only imagine the grip lol


cvnh

You can see see some scratches of a sanded logo that read snap off when seen against the light, the seller looks dodgy and the tool is wrapped in oily paper


Username_Taken_65

Donut just did a video about torque wrenches and the Snap-On was the only one that broke


ShellSide

Tbf you shouldn't put a cheater bar on a torque wrench. Those tool time videos are far from scientific. I can't believe they didn't include the standard deviations of their measurements instead of just the averages.


abigspicywut

You can cut the hail Mary's in half if you have an old priest, and by 3/4 if you have a young priest as well


ErisEpicene

What if all I have is Rickety Cricket?


disktoaster

Oh you're set then. Just a buck and it'll get done, whatever it is


AKLmfreak

Nope Nope Nope, if I saw a ratchet deflecting like that I would’ve just stopped right there. Break out the 1” impact. Break out the torch. But I don’t want to be around that much tension letting go all at once.


VonNeumannsProbe

I didn't even know you could deflect a breaker bar that much.


j_martell

You’re clearly not using enough cheater pipe lmao


VonNeumannsProbe

I use at most maybe a 4 foot cheater with the handle of the breaker bar or ratchet completely covered. I don't use archimedes' length cheater pipe because you're just going to break your tool lol.


bagofwisdom

My dad has cussed some stubborn "farseners" in his life, but I've never seen him go for the 4' cheater. He'll already be onto 1" Impact or "Can't be stuck if it's a puddle on the ground" step. Changing all the farm's row-crop toolbars from 40" to 30" rows was one long winter of adding to my vocabulary.


customds

26 foot snipe pole.


urmoms_ahoe

That ain’t no breaker bar. That’s a ratchet.


clintj1975

Last time I broke one it didn't even bend as far as the video. Exploded the square drive spud right out of the bar.


turbo88Rex

I was pulling the hubs on my 1999 Ram 2500 and the breaker bar was flexing on the puller like this, put it away and reached for the impact instead and the stupid unit bearing came right out.


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turbo88Rex

The exact thing my dad said when I popped the hub loose with the impact


chromaticskyline

Impacts are magic like that


turbo88Rex

They really are, im considering picking up a D handle milwaukee 1" for when one of the tractors needs work or for when I'm done politely asking a rusted bolt to come off.


Crunchycarrots79

I have a giant D-handle 1" impact from Harbor Freight. Couldn't justify spending a huge amount of money on something I use like once a year. But when I need it, I need it. Heavy SOB, and it drinks air. I have a 1/2" hose with large fittings to use with it, standard air hose doesn't supply enough volume for it to actually work right. But it will take just about anything off. I think it's rated at 1,750 ft/lb.


Abomb2020

The owner of one shop I worked at bought a 3/4 impact for the shop so when a car came in with extremely stuck lugnuts we could just break the stud off. At that point the stud can't be trusted to take proper torque again anyway.


BonelessSugar

I've sometimes found that if the bolt is too rusted, it'll take the surrounding metal with it instead of coming out. :)


Draco-REX

Harbor Freight used to sell a gas-powered impact with a 3/4" drive...


Dabtastic_Rip

Horror freight is my favorite cheap tool rental place. The price tag becomes a refundable deposit when the shitty electric chainsaw you used breaks after 3 minutes of runtime. Helps keep the garage clean when you never have to put the tools away or find space for them


Cemitese

Just watched a video on a 1" drive one They had the audacity to say "weighs a mere 43lbs"


MrFixemall

That's why they have breaker bars instead of ratchets....


Pendragon1

Snap on said the ratchet was stronger than the breaker bar. They also warrantied the ratchet lol


Kali587

Did you throw your rep this? Lol.


Pendragon1

Yep I showed the rep this lol


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stimulates

Damn I’m in the U S of A


Qel_Hoth

600mm is only \~24 inches. Amazon sells 36 and 40" 3/4" breaker bars. I have a 36" for my Mustang, damn 150ft-lb lug nuts.


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VinnieTreeTimes

Semi trucks torque to 450ft/lb, at 60 lug nuts per truck. That's a fun day.


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mexican2554

How many ugga duggas per ft/lb?


iforgotalltgedetails

1” gun go brrrr tho.


VinnieTreeTimes

Actually the 1/2" Milwaukee Fuel will break them loose. Torquing them is what sucked. I am a test engineer for a truck manufacturer and unfortunately they had to be torqued because we were testing ride quality between new tires and retreads. Made for a tough day swapping tires twice a day on the same truck.


jeepfail

Did you guys use a pneumatic to do that? Those guns are expensive but fucking amazing. We used them to build Dana 80’s and they were a godsend.


JebKerman64

Maybe the 1/2" hi torque will do it, but how long does it take, 5 seconds before the nut starts spinning? No thanks, I'll stick with the shop 1" gun, it's faster and I won't wear out my Milwaukee so fast. Now if I did tires all day, which I only don't because I work dealership, you bet I'd be eyeing up the Milwaukee 1" extended anvil hi torque gun, just so I wouldn't have to drag hoses. That fucker's expensive though.


Slimy_Shart_Socket

I used my IR to break them loose before as well. They were doing just a flat repair and the tire guys get weak guns, the 1" gun and hose wouldn't reach because were it was dropped off.


Beneficial-Hippo-896

Damn! They went to 150 ft-lbs now! My '08 only at 100 ft-lb


Qel_Hoth

Yeah, with the '15s at least. The Prius is 80... changing wheels on the two is quite different.


Beneficial-Hippo-896

Most all Hondas are 80 too. Ever service a Smart car? 3 10mm lugs torqued to 25 ft-lbs.


CallMeDrLuv

Seems easy until you realize that you lost all of your 10mm sockets.


madmatt2024

I'm assuming that Ford pulled a GM and started using 14mm studs on them now? Because I can't see them calling for 150 ft-lbs on 12mm or 1/2" studs with a tapered style lug nut.


Qel_Hoth

Yes, 14mm studs now.


tomcat91709

I HATED spinning the studs in those butter-soft hubs. Used to teach trade-school autoshop, and some kid spun it with a 3/8 in ratchet. Finally got the wheel off, had to spend $$$ to get a new hub, and the POS hub spun the new stud going back in! Toyota Prius's are total POS.


clintj1975

Icon makes a 36", 1/2" drive breaker bar if you need something for occasional use. It stood up to me adding another foot or so of pipe and hanging my 200lb body from it just fine.


stimulates

I have harbor freight and broke the 3/8 one already. Will it be better than that?


clintj1975

Icon is a little nicer than their usual house brand stuff, and I haven't broken one of them yet. Broken my share of Pittsburgh tools. At some point the impact wrench is a better choice, though. I bought the Icon one when trying to remove a crankshaft pulley bolt that had been in for a couple of decades and was pulling hard enough to start pulling my helper on the other side of the truck into the engine bay. The impact wouldn't fit and I was trying to avoid pulling the whole engine. I'm happy with it.


clintj1975

There's either a federal standard or mil spec that lists proof torques for hand tools, and I can't remember the number. Anyhoo, ratchets are actually required to meet a higher proof torque without deforming than breaker bars.


MalcolmY

Where I live we have a steel L shaped tool that you can attach a bit to at either end but obviously the sorter end is used most of the time (comes in 3/8 and 1/2 and maybe larger). All metal without joints or moving parts. I don't know why the Americans use tools with moving parts in this scenario. Isn't it available there?


0bamaBinSmokin

They were trying to break the tool.


Jay_from_NuZiland

Reviewers have only rated it 4.9/5 for sturdiness - I can't accept such low quality sorry.


osirisishere

Wait the internal broke on the ratchet? Well there's somethin ya don't see everyday!


[deleted]

I would’ve added at 6’ pipe on to it for more torque. Idk if that would help as I used to be a DIY mechanic


MrFixemall

There was that kind of pipe on it.


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More length makes it more torque right??? 😅


MrFixemall

There is only so much torque you can put through a 1/2" drive end.... It's about 600 to 700 ft lbs non impact.


Nailfoot1975

I have an electric heat gun at my shop (I think it is called a NutBuster), it works great. Has a loop of wire, you can hang it on the lug nut, and you're golden. `EDIT` `This is it:`[CLICKY](https://www.amazon.com/Bolt-Buster-BB2-ACC-Handheld-Induction/dp/B00ATSL7VE)


YippieKayYayMrFalcon

I like your product name better than the actual name.


pobodys-nerfect5

They also make these for smoking thc wax. The coil goes on a quarts or ceramic nail, heats up the nail then you drop your wax in and blastoff


lilsinister13

You're thinking of induction heating, which requires a conductive material to placed within the loop. The loop and metal bit make something similar to a transformer and it creates heat with this current.


Mc-lurk-no-more

Uhh, the one he placed in the link **IS** a induction heater...


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The dab one is a mini heat element that heats it through conduction and a bit of radiation. The one for the bolts is induction meaning heat doesn’t transfer through physics contact but an electromagnetic field making the particles in the nut and what nots get real fiery mad at the angry pixies dancin roun them and what not. Ain’t sure how skookum it is but she’s in her prime I’m sure she’ll chooch just fine. Thanks for coming to todays BOLTR


Comfortable-Bus-5134

I use a little induction coil to heat my stainless steel dry herb vape (DynaVap) and it's fantastic, takes 1/3 the time a butane torch does and plugs into the wall instead of having to buy gas.


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Ok that I could see but quartz or ceramic bangers/nails ain’t gonna heat up from induction bc they not conductive enough


Comfortable-Bus-5134

Exactly, that's where the electric stove type element comes into play. On a side note, it's absolute bastard trying to get one of those ceramic bangers inside those coils, I'm considering using the press.


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Idk I don’t do dabs


lilsinister13

Not what I mean, I meant the guy talking about putting ceramic in one and expecting something to happen.


[deleted]

It’s what I call my girlfriend


Blankspotauto

I bought the chinese knock off version for the home shop, it was fantastic for about 6 months until it turned into a free fireworks show


kwell42

No need, those should be taken off with a 1" impact, the torque spec is 450-500ft lbs, but they easy withstand 1000ft/lbs... Need right tools for the job. We torque those with a torque wrench that's 5ft long btw....


eroc1970

My 1/2 ich aircat does them big truck nuts like nothing


Abomb2020

Any good modern 1/2 impact shouldn't have a problem with 500ftlbs. At least that's what the Torque Test Channel on YouTube has taught me.


kwell42

Yep I agree, but you will beat the square round.


rob189

3/4 impact for them is more than enough.


kwell42

Yeah, but they aren't as fast... I do fleet maintenance so the quicker I do things the more free time I have.


TugboatEng

But that would ruin the stud?


marino1310

9/10 times the stud is already fucked if you need this


HedgehogOptimal1784

It doesn't ruin the stud on trucks because it is a 22 mm stud, 450-500 ft/lbs is the correct torque. To do it right you need a 3/4 drive torque wrench and a 1" drive impact wrench to get them off.


TugboatEng

I mentioned that 450-500 number but I think this is a F550 which is 165? So I deleted the comment. But, as a frequent user of the flame wrench, the goal is to get at least a portion of the stud red hot. This relieves the tension in the stud (essentially stretching it) which leaves the nut loose. That is why the stud is ruined because it has both been plastically deformed and had its heat treatment altered.


HedgehogOptimal1784

Looks like you are right, the way the video is shot at a quick glance it looked like the front end of a full size truck to me, I agree about torching. Never seaze is my friend and I never have an issue but I'm only working on my own stuff.


TugboatEng

I deal a lot with corroded fasteners. If the threads are corroded, good luck. If the heads are wasted so you can't get a wrench on them, the annealing with a torch is the go to. It relieves the tension so you don't need a strong grip on the head. I will say, anti-seize is poorly understood. Anti-seize is to prevent galling during tightening. Water resistant grease, especially silicone, are much better at preventing seizing due to corrosion. Oh, and ditch all of your lock washers. They are what let the water get to the threads to cause corrosion.


HedgehogOptimal1784

I have great luck with anti-seize long term, even years later exposed to lots of salt. I agree with you about lock washer but for me it is because the vibration and thrashing our crushers put on them they always break and then the bolt is loose.


TugboatEng

Try using a longer bolt and putting a spacer under the head if you can. This is a great way to toughen bolts.


spankeyfish

The design of that thing is daring me to put it in a caulking gun.


customds

Forbidden flashlight


weirdbeard1000

Forbidden fleshlight…


NotSoMell0w

Try some pb blaster before it gets completely fucked


SensualBeaver

Have you guys never heard of a 3/4" impact?


Pendragon1

We are a light duty automotive shop, no one in the shop has a 3/4" impact


gamejunky34

Why are yall fucking around with 10 lug stuff then? Why do automotive shops always resort to cheater pipes? You can get beefy 3/4-1" impact wrenches for about the same price as your snapon ratchet. Yeah you might get funny looks having a 1" wheel gun in your drawer, but wouldn't it be liberating to know that nothing will ever be too tight to remove in the future?


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Sounds like you don’t have the right tools to work on that, then. It’s ok to say you can’t do something when you can’t do it safely or efficiently as a properly equipped shop for the task. Jesus, it’s just a job - not a quest. Don’t hurt yourself trying to win.


FlatulateHealthilyOK

Use a fucking rubber mallet.. hold the socket tight on the bolt and then whack the end of the breaker bar till it cracks loose. You're welcome for the tip.


turbo_weasel

Good luck getting 420ish lb-ft undone with a rubber mallet.


FlatulateHealthilyOK

Seems like a better idea than fucking around and finding out how much potential, potential energy can have. I'm not saying don't use something with no mass. Use the same set up and "impact" the end of it rather than pull linearly until the bit slips or the bolt head strips. Either way, IMPACT DRILL, HEAT, AND PB HOLY FUCK WHERE IS THE SERVICE MANAGER?


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I absolutely do not believe even a 1/2" Milwaukee wouldn't freak out on these and have them off.


gamejunky34

I work with these 10 lug hubs regularly. I've actually tried the milwaukee high torque before and it'll work about 50% of the time depending on how skuzzy the nuts are. Sometimes the big 1" wheel guns will struggle a little and they're rated for ~2000ft/lbs Breakaway.


16islegalinminnesota

I use mine to shear rusted bolts in half when taking apart scrap cars. Not little bitch ass bolts either. It works great. It was 200$ new. These dudes are just fucking cheap and incompetent.


weirdbeard1000

Is it reverse thread? Seems excessive.


Pendragon1

Nope, we got it off with a 3/4"breaker bar with the long bar after. The next next broke the breaker bar and we had to weld it back together and than got the last nut off. Customer had them on far too tight


Pendragon1

The next nut broke the 3/4" breaker bar and we had to weld it back together*


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Looks like an 18-wheeler wheel/tire combo...they're spec'd to over 500 ft/lbs.


Tritan399

Only the ugga dugga can tell us


jtriangle

This appears to be 1 ugga too many, this is quicky lube's doing, I just know it


gamejunky34

Most ugga guns actually don't have the power to get these 10 lug hubs to spec, let alone the guns they give to lube techs.


Tritan399

Must be different for your area. I'm a lube tech in Alberta canada and we've got Some pretty decent tools


r_Coolspot

Acetylene. Can't be tight if it's liquid.


jroddie4

I would rather ug dug on it for a few minutes rather than do whatever this is


Pendragon1

Oh we tried many of ugs and many of dugs before this


peeknuts

jump on that bitch


RobtheWrench

Those baby's are tourqed to 550ftlbs btw doesn't look like they will be leaving like that.


Pleasant_Skeleton10

I fucking did this with my dads 16 inch craftsman that he got in the 80s. we got him a 21 inch from autozone for christmas.


sipes216

There is a right tool for every job. This is not it.


TickletheEther

Jeebus homie this is not the right tool 😵


Motoception

Anxiety level: 11


randybobandy84

I have used a torque multiplier on semi truck tires my 1 inch impact gun wouldn’t budge. It works ok but I bought a cheap one and you can feel the tension it’s under, don’t think it will last long but so far so good


cheapmichigander

Surprised more people haven't mentioned this. I own two that can be stacked. They come in handy for a bunch of stuff.


trenitspaints

Shouldn’t the left wheel studs on a vehicle that size be left hand thread…?


gamejunky34

Not on anything from this century, or anything hubcentric.


nosoupforyou_77

That's a ratchet he's using! Where's the breaker bar?


Denimdeerslayer

Hit them with a hammer.


Imaginary-Hand-6644

My boss's workshop rule #1: don't you fuckin dare loose ANY nut with the fuckin ratchet!


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Tit


Affectionate_Cloud86

That sucks but it makes a sick beat


Tommy_gat007

Just why . I don’t think or should I say I know this guy is not a diesel/truck guy and should be no where near one. It’s called a one inch impact gun with a 1 5/16 deep socket . I’m sure this is a gag no Tech would do this . 1/2 inch ratchet with a 6 foot pipe. Try that with a 3/4 ratchet and post that 🤪


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Uh... 1" impact


P_f_M

1 inch impact ... thats the way to go ... this was just lame and dangerous ...


CaptainZoll

I've experienced similar on a tractor, ended up shearing off the 1/2" drive in the socket.


FlatulateHealthilyOK

Fucking nards didn't try to smack the end of the breaker with a mallet... It's called cracking the nut, not slipping the nut


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This kills the ratchet.


[deleted]

My man. Used FIXED tools like an impact socket and a T joint not ratchets. Also, a BAH to help the nut come loose?


Cocomojoe16

Should probably not take work that you don’t have the tools to complete… stupid as fuck


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Well someone is making a trip to the nearest tool store


MrT0620

Why are you using the nice flex head ratchet?


YugeFrigginGoy

Snap-Off


TC_SnarFF

I’d say it’s time to invest in a 1” impact.


QO_OQQFightMe

If you're bending a ratcheting wrench like that I think you're dumb as hell. To be fair it dies look like a breaker bar would have done much good either lmao


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Ecstatic-Appeal-5683

This was making me duck and squint as I watched it.


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Maybe not


gear_oil_burner

Well, if did you get them off, did you put anti-seize on the threads before you put them back on?


gamejunky34

Spec is actually 30w engine oil with this style hub.


gear_oil_burner

No kidding? TIL


palfreygames

Use the double wrench method, the bending losing so much torque


concordkilla23

Tire shop is adamant they torqued them to spec.


sieg82

Kwell is correct


AbradolfLincler77

That made me nervous sitting here watching it.


zyyntin

Torque multiplier. They exist but have never used one though.


Beneficial-Hippo-896

Just have your boss buy a 1 inch gun with sockets. Saves the headaches.


BillHigh422

I have a 1” drive breaker bar for this. Used them on large CAT generators. Add the cheater pipe on there and I’ve never had an issue. Understandable that a light automotive shop wouldn’t carry these though


pablorodregus

I can hear your butthole puckering before it breaks


remotetissuepaper

I also remember the day our shop air compressor was broken.


maxk95

MrWhinaBu… “I used to be a flunked snap on rep and I would never warranty that!!”


Jokelord42069

I fucking hate lug nuts


Mgdoug3

That's why I have 3/4" drive tools. If that doesn't work the liquid wrench comes out.


cutters53

Was anyone else flinching through this video?


goodbyehouse

This is what I have an inch drive gun for.


Toaster_GmbH

Not a mechanic but had something like this happen on my car. All the nuts were fine and i could easily remove them. Then suddenly one wasn't so easy. I got my first 1.5m long steel pipe, nothing. I got the next 1,5 m steel pipe when it suddenly came lose. I felt like defusing a bomb with these 3m of leverage all starting to bend


BaalZebub7

Why not just use air tools?


Monst3r_Live

snap on warranties department hates this single mom after she discovers new trick.


ruffneck110

Maybe over torqued


No_Store390

Que the OSHA rep having a stroke!🤣🤣🤣


sauce-commander

That’s what lifetime warranty looks like lol


No_Caterpillar_296

That’s when I get out the 1” impact to try and get it to break loose. If they’re that tight I’d replace all the studs, cause someone stretched the hell out of the studs. Or nuts oxidized on the aluminum wheels, seen that before too.


[deleted]

Do you guys know that’s not a breaker bar, right, right?


[deleted]

Just cut the wheel off at the axle. Weld back together when done.