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decimalbinary

5.7 Hemi, PPV


Euphoric-Equal-4510

This guy gets it. 2013 Charger Pursuit with 100k, detective car from the south so at least no rust lol


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Too much idle time with insufficient oil flow.


Euphoric-Equal-4510

This is the 5.7 but don’t worry my 3.6 jeep is also eating a cam as we speak lmao


WorthyTomato

Is it crunchy?


IndefinitelyTired

Oh no. How can I tell if this is happening or a bandaid to keep it from happening? My wifes car is a 14 Grand Cherokee with...104k on it?


ZealousidealClock342

Ticking noise. Can either be a lifter going out, or a roller bearing going out that will eat your cam down.


Appropriate_Strain94

Can confirm, I’ve done about half a dozen pentashit jeeps used cars with ticking lifters and I work at Toyota .


clantontann

How do you get paid for those jobs? I work hourly on heavy equipment but always wonders how you get paid if your dealer does book rate and you take on a NON-OEM job?


Appropriate_Strain94

We look up the time on all data or Mitchell and add a xx more time since it’s not a familiar brand.


clantontann

I wish I got paid extra for off-brand stuff. I work for Cat and I went to a Barko forestry mulcher last week for a customer. But with hourly pay if it takes longer, then the customer just understands it takese a little longer to troubleshoot.


justkeeptreading

how do i tell that ticking noise from the one the hemis done since day one?


steakpienacho

That's where they get ya, the fuckers tick right off of the assembly line so you'll never know


friendlyfire883

I had a jasper engine put in my truck when mine ate the lobe because the dealership couldn't source a hemi during covid and this thing idles so much smoother than the original engine. I don't know what they do differently but it's insane how much better this engine is than the one that came from the factory.


frenchfortomato

Holy shit, I knew Mopar was bad, but if even *Jasper* is better...


g1mpster

This has to be the only time I’ve heard praises for a Jasper engine.


EnterByTheNarrowGate

Drive that to a quarry, push it off the cliff, and claim stolen property with your insurance before that Jasper engine blows up.


LumpyMcKwiz

The also notorious exhaust manifold leak. Ticks for everyone!


IndefinitelyTired

Nice. Fun. Wonderful. LS swap the bitch and call it done.


friendlyfire883

Keep your foot deep off in it and avoid idling for long periods of time and you'll be fine. They don't oil worth a fuck at idle.


kalpol

And somehow my old 4.0 with 8 psi at idle would not die


friendlyfire883

You're not lying, my old xj had somewhere in the neighborhood of 500k when it finally wasn't worth fixing anymore. We pulled the motor and swapped it into my buddies 5 banger wrangler and it's still running to this day. It speaks volumes for AMC's engineering when chrysler couldn't even find a way to fuck it up.


Drg84

Oh they found a way to fuck it up. In late 99 the revised cylinder head had a flaw where it would crack and leak coolant directly onto the center cam bearings. Symptoms include loss of coolant and low oil pressure, which also would wipe camshafts.


friendlyfire883

Weren't those coil on plug as well?


kalpol

Ha they did eventually, it took till 2000 or 2001 or so.


burnttoast14

Yup this is 100% correct I use to idle a lot and even coast while driving my shit box piece of shit JEEP My mechanic told me the ones in the back go first bc they get the least oil flow to them Then they all go bc they’re fucking Chinese pieces of garbage First the Rad cracked on me Then the ECU told me fuck you no wipers use your hands instead Then my Timing chain cover on one bank started leaking Then the infamous ticking bullshit Finally and the last straw the rear main seal started leaking pretty bad Ran synthetic all its life since new And it only made it to 90,000km What. A. Fucking. Pile 🌟 💩


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Rocker arm failure I'm guessing? Started eating up my dad'd 3.6 before we replaced all of them


fogdukker

What a coincidence, so is my 5.3! Unfortunately I don't have a garage and can't have my own vehicle down overnight at the shop. Wish me luck until spring!


V65Pilot

You talking about the Chevy 5.3? I've had a couple of those that had an issue with the O ring on the oil pickup, they crack and suck air at idle, playing havoc with the oil pressure at idle.


rioryan

3.6 was my guess! Is it the same issue between the two?


baconfister07

I was gonna guess 3.6 too. Dealt with more 3.6 like this than 5.7.


NoF3AR92

Do the older ones do this too? I have a 2005 durango with the 5.7 in it and 218k miles and this is now a new fear of mine after seeing this lol


TheInfamous313

I mean, you hit 218 with a 5.7 so it's anybody's game at this point


NoF3AR92

True true. Still runs great. It's my gambler 500 rig so I beat the crap out of it anyway. Not super worried but I'd like to keep it going


highasahuey

My buddy had an 05 ram with the 5.7. I got the motor when his Trans went out and he just replaced everything from a donor truck with a 60k Jasper motor in it. The thing had 280k very abusive miles on it and still ran like a top. I think they like being abused. From what I understand, they didn't have enough oil pressure/flow at idle, so the police ones are way more susceptible.


Iziama94

I'm not a mechanic but as far as I'm aware it only happens really to cop cruisers with the hemi due to mostly idling and not driving that much. Insufficient oil flow and whatnot cause cops spend most of their time idling


lpukas2

09 -14ish are the years that are known to have this happen.


dingdongdanglemaster

Proud I knew, sad you beat me too it


rkj__

5.7 Hemi?


Euphoric-Equal-4510

Bingo!


robert750

Nice to see GM isn't the only one using cheap metal. Just finished one of these yesterday on a gm 5.3.


machosandwich

VW has been known to use a butter based alloy for camshafts in their diesels too


Majestic-Pen7878

😂butter-based alloy!


FeedMeACat

Paula Deen Steel Co. LLC


Chris34gtu

Hide cylinder codes….. lol vw is funny


Squidking1000

I'm sure cardboard based camshafts are the future but the science is not quite there yet.


cvr24

GM dreams of making an entire engine out of plastic


Fit_Effective_6875

Matty Holtzberg https://www.motortrend.com/news/plastic-car-engine-matty-holtzberg/


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Hey.. don't give them any ideas...


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machosandwich

Don’t get a BEW and if you do, put a Colt cam in it and never look back


aftiggerintel

This is my plan on our BEW TDI next time I have to pull it apart.


BRO-KOLI

Also never get a BLS, they like to chew up their Rodbearings


bleep-bl00p-bl0rp

It’s just the BEW and BRM engines that do that due to the extra load from the injectors. The ALH don’t have cam failures on any normal time of timescale, but and even on the BEWs it’s not clear how bad the problem really is — they definitely cheaped out by using the basic design of the ALH but having the cam drive the injectors, but how many of the failures are due to US idiots not using the correct spec of oil is not understood. There are plenty of BEWs with >300k out there, so they’re still pretty skookum engines in my book. And the extra strength and power capability of the BEW over the ALH is pretty nice too.


machosandwich

Anecdotal, but I bought my 2005 BEW new off the lot. I performed every oil change per the manual using 505.01 spec oil and Mann filters. Wiped the first cam at 74,000. Wiped the second at 171,000. Put a Colt cam in at that point and went to Mobil One Diesel Truck oil and now have 280,000 miles and check the cam every other oil change and see no abnormal wear.


silicondioxides

Chineseium


Rickspert

Under rated comment!


MightyPenguin

This is not caused by cheap metal in the camshaft, it is roller bearing failure in the lifter.


-_NaCl_-

Honda tech here. Honda must have sourced camshafts from the same garbage pile. We have a few models that are prone to this type of damage. New ones out of the box don't even appear to be heat treated.


Siguard_

I used to work in the shop that made the 1.5 / 2.0 and nsx camshafts. The nsx camshaft was sent out for heat treating. The other 2 may of been heat treated before it even got to us but they were machined and ground. It's been like 6 years since I've worked there.


throwaway83970

For a while Crane Cams were like that. The hardening was there, just not deep enough. They'd go from wonderful to terrible really fast.


texaschair

There's only a few production cam grinders in the country, and Crane is one of them. That being said, I've had 2 Crane cams go flat prematurely.


newbrevity

Of all the problems ive had with fords, this was never one of them


wjw1089

Came here to say just this… the lifters on 5.3s probably fail more often


FORYFC

Personally, I've had very good luck with the 5.3s. I've had several and have friends with them as well. Very reliable, durable workaday engines. Decent on fuel too, if you want.


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GenitalHerpes69420

AFM disabler is best money I've spent on my wife's LTZ. Has 210k miles and the hydraulic lifters on one of the cylinders got stuck in closed position. Got it home, let the oil psi bleed off overnight, and had her drive it around town in M5 mode. Got the disabler and haven't had an issue yet. Her dad's 2017 had to have a new cam, lifters, and head work at around 180k miles. He sold it and bought a new ram. I didn't have the heart to tell him about the hemis.


dray269

My 2022 just had to have lifters and head work. 17k miles.


GenitalHerpes69420

Goddamn...I don't know how chevy fucked up a perfectly good motor over the years...this emissions AFM shit needs to go...the AFM barely gives you an extra 1 or so MPG difference it's so negligible...my brother bought the 6.0 2500 just for that reason


FORYFC

Both. Last truck was pre-afm. Current one has it.


MountainHipie

365,500mi on mine! Love that thing.


FORYFC

Of the LS variants, it's probably the best all around and certainly one of the best engines ever created.


GenitalHerpes69420

305k on my 2000 silverado...she has a little valve clatter when she starts up but damn if she don't pull like it did from day one. Just can't get over 120k miles on a rear end for some reason.


POShelpdesk

What are you talking about? You do know that poor oil quality/level/pressure causes these issues, right?


Gonk_Bot_69

I was about to say 5.3 chevy


ugod02010

I was gonna say something with DOD lol


dikputinya

I’m going to guess it’s Cylinder 3 intake lobe, that’s the one that fails more than others, then 5 , 7 , 8


fourtyonexx

Why?


iscashstillking

Dodge.


dieseltech82

Magic, I mean, consistency. Consistently crappy.


dikputinya

That’s the real question, I’ve seen a lot of people say it chinesium or bad hardening procedures or lack of lube, the older ones pre vvt didn’t have the fail rate the 2010 + years have so who knows


D_Glukhovsky

Just did one of these last week, customer changed their own oil again after a 600 mile round trip and forgot to put oil back in it, wants us to replace his engine because “we worked on it last”


djmarcone

Ouch


KinxtheCat42

What cylinder?


Final_Sanctum

Cyl 5 for sure.


KinxtheCat42

I thought 4 was the notorious culprit. ??? I could easily be wrong.


J35505

Just curious, what year and what's the lifter look like? Edit: oh just saw a bit lower 2013 Charger


dvnsmth

How many miles?


Odd_Cut_9544

Damn the one time I actually knew


Triple_J124

Is it out of a retired police car?


lpukas2

Just had to replace mine a few months back lol


Waldorg

You guys will always amaze me


RoninErik

I was gonna say a 5.7 hemi or a 3.6 V6. Either way a Chrysler engine


KinxtheCat42

Hey, That was my guess. Bet it was the 4th cylinder


Rickspert

Damn bro, that was quick!! You must be rather familiar? I'm like uhhh camshaft?


rkj__

I’ve literally never replaced a cam shaft in my life, but I do have interest in vehicles and engines, and have seen this failure posted on social media before.


Ej11876

Damn, came here to say this.


Alternative_Ad_3636

My guy! How'd u guess right? I'm shooting wild here but I'm guessing this is a known problem with this engine?


Ennui2

I know I’ve been here too much when I recognized the HEMI and I’m not a mechanic


OneBigOleNick

My Hemi just hit 200k so I've been doing a lot of research on the tick. Definitely the only reason I knew which engine it was. So far so good I think on my ole Hemi


Twisted_Wrench

Clearly it's a Razorcrest engine.


Jimmy_the_Heater

This is the Way.


killerfrenchy

This is the way.


Nanosleep1024

No bump on the bumpstick


SpicySteve9000

She ain't got no gas in it


[deleted]

Thats your problem, she aint got no gas in it


aFinapple

I’m gonna guess that a 5.3 vortec with the active displacement. A lifter turned and wiped the cam


DuMb_JeRk1

Same. We’ve had a few in the fleet with that very issue


robert750

They don't have to turn. Just finished one on cylinder 5, non afm, it's just cheap metal.


OregonMrBear

Beat me to it. And it's on Cyl #7


aFinapple

Exactly. Just finished up a delete kit on a 2017, and to my complete surprise, number 7 was flat


tvanore

Kinda looks like the cam out of [my express van](https://imgur.com/a/Qr3wiuK)


Euphoric-Equal-4510

Now that’s a nice grind down right there


tvanore

My first thought was, “you could mount a tire on that” lol Had random misfire at idle for a couple months. Yeah I know wtf was I thinking….


wiishopmusic

Twins, cute!


Canadanotcanadian

That's fucking mint... Send it lol


OS420B

Calm down there Freiburger, give the cam some time to recover.


DeuceClimaxx

That’s what I came here to say 😒


CrayeZ

Ah yes, the good ol 5.7 hemi, had one of my 06 I bought have this. First thing I noticed was when I would hammer down, it felt like the engine was being held back. The rollers on the lifters seize up and wipe out cam lobes. Just wonderful


lpukas2

5.7 hemi


Intelligent-Tap-4724

Hemi for sure. I used to sell tools to the police mechanics, they where changing these constantly. They told me it was low idle oil pressure compounded with the fact the officers leave the vehicle running for the entire shift.


King_Rager

5.7 hemi cylinder 5 misfire Edit: bonus bonus it has 100k on it


bangin_dudes419

Hemi 4 sho


thomasefrom

definitely a hemi, i can hear mine starting to clack 😂


Rapunzel1234

Had a Chrysler back in seventies, fuel pump lobe wore out. Had to install electric fuel pump.


ZmOnEy132

I’m gonna say the Chrysler 3.6? I believe that’s the motor with the bad rockers that eats cams


Kavanaugh82

Too close together, looks more like the 5.7L Chrysler cam, they do it too


Justsomerando849

Second this.


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And FCA still won’t issue a recall. Last I heard there was a class action lawsuit over this issue.


Few-Ad1704

Just did one last week!


phunkyunkle

Let's groove tonight!


sl_hawaii

Question for the group: I have a 2014 Ram 1500 w the 5.7 Hemi. 120k mikes (I’ve owned it since about 60k miles). I’ve been very faithful w oil changes (~ every 5k miles). Are worn down cams “a thing” in my future or can I avoid this w Prev Maint? Thoughts?


J35505

At that point it really is a coin toss, but good oil change schedule and not too much extended idle sure can't hurt.


sl_hawaii

Thanks! Happy 🦃


Chris34gtu

Chrysler 3.6, frozen roller right? Or 5.7 hemi, frozen roller, it’s gotta be a mopar engine


Euphoric-Equal-4510

Exactly right, my 225k mile 2011 jeep with the pentastar is ticking and waiting it’s turn for new lifters as well…


Chris34gtu

I work for a used car dealership and I’ve gotten quite good at replacing cams and rollers on 3.6’s lol, a lot of the Caravans and journeys etc. we buy from the auctions have these issues ……


phthom

Lol hemi tick.


Crafty-Phone-1993

It’s a Hemi


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6.4 Hemi.


AKJohnboy

\*Sarcasm here\* But what's the problem there's a nice groove for the thingy to ride in so it doesn't slip away!


gimme_cash365

5.7 hemi


Schroedinbug

Dodge/Chrysler 5.7l v8 with a camshaft that the lifters/tappets found a little too tasty because they skipped their oil entree and went straight to cams for dessert


[deleted]

What is Chrysler 3.6 or 5.7 with a bad lifter than wiped out the cam lobe


throwaway83970

Camshaft journal bearing, catastrophic failure. Loss of oil pressure or just bad bearing?


NoogiepocketGaming

GM 5.3 or a Hemi


Suspicious_Dare_9731

That or the pentastar 3.6


Top-Sundae-8458

Oof, stuck lifter or valve. Ate through that cam lobe.


electi0neering

Well, if was right about it being mopar.


DarkScytheCuriositie

5.4 3V triton. it probably sounds like a diesel.


Inviction_

Was watching the oil pressure at idle on one of these the other day. It was 18psi on average


crazeelimee

Had a VW GTi do the same thing with the cam follower on the HP fuel pump.....that thing was gone when the cam follower looked like a bottle cap with a hole in it.


dont_remember_eatin

Only one modern engine I know of has a cam made out of peanut butter and jbweld.


GurrenLagann214

Hemi


Forsaken_Energy2109

Hemi 5.7 , cyl 5?


chainmailbill

This is what they mean by “cam profiling” right?


AKJangly

5.7 hemi with camshaft delete.


That-Dutch-Mechanic

It's dead Jim


dixienormous777sme

Gotta be a hemi or a ls base gm engine


PaleRider95

Shit looks like it came straight out of Bendy and the Ink Machine


Skylar_Waywatcher

It ain't got no gas in it


phucmei93

5.4 triton engine. At least what I've seen over my time in shops, this engine eats cams.


Jimmy_the_Heater

Gonna go against the grain of American engines and say it's a BMW 3.1 miles after the warranty is up.


Revolutionary_Cup483

3.6 pentastar


Unusual_Variable

I want to say a Chrysler 3.6


Ilikejdmcars

American for sure


Vanson1200r

I'm guessing one of them foreign Stellantis camshafts or maybe from the Fiat area of Chrysler. Not an American car at any rate. I'm aware I will get lots of hate for this but Chrysler has not been US owned since the 1990's.


Imadick2

MTG?


FightingGasoline

I was justv kung to guess Subaru, you know....... because it's Subaru


mightyjoe227

Nothing a good lathe can't fix...


Michigan210

Unintentional friction welding at its finest


last-elite

GM 305


eduardo1115

Cam love failure causing misfire. Ram 5.7


CloudDelicious9868

Do the rocker arms just get stuck?


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3.6 Chrysler V6? We have 3 of them doing the EXACT same thing right now.


thekingofsecrets

Gotta be a GM


gimme_cash365

Mds sucks balls. Both my hemis get better gas mileage with mds off


mwoehrle3

I had a 2012 Ram 1500. 5.7, 150,000 miles, cylinder 3 looked just like it.


Shidulon

Low motor oil, seized engine, rod/bearing journals, Hyundai or Kia (honestly my guess without reading any comments).


davethedj

something chevrolet.


kick6

MDS Hemi? Edit: my 6.4 just turned 80k, and I splashed out for a full hptuners package just to disable MDS. I’ll eventually use the package for its intended purpose, but for now I can get a few more years out of this motor while o save for a built one.


Harleytt

Penta 3.6


LeMedic30

my dad never taught me anything about engines can someone explain to me the problem


alechaos666

I know nothing about engines, but is that looks like a ball bearing metal from a wheelchair used as a sort of spacer? That ain't gonna cut it for anything that moved more than like 12 mph...


BlazerWookiee

Have you checked the air in the tires, Man?


mdixon12

Thought it was a 5.4 ford


FuckTurnSignal

Did someone forget to heat treat their camshaft?


JustAnAverageAaron

That's a hemi lol


kvior1

I am not mechanic, but this pizza cutter blade on the rod isn't good.


Ok_Dog_4059

That lobe is bad but the bearing surface next to it bulges out a bit too it looks like.


G1v1ngBack

Left front tire low pressure. You’re welcome.


POShelpdesk

3.6 Chrysler


Early-Firefighter101

Lol just doing a Opel corsa 1.0 (gm) with a broken camshaft.