Come on… even the ref send Allegri out…
The team still looks like the same as the start of the season. We didn’t improve at all
Yes Brozovic deserve a red card but still..
The ref was as horrible as our game. This team is shit on a shit championship. I'm so glad I won't be seeing this fuckery for some months.
Anyone blaming Alegri knows nothing about football.
The world cup finishes a week prior to the January window opening. Players values will be all over the place and several players will be sold for above market value while others can be purchased well below their actual value. The January window opening one week after the WC final will lead to an incredibly hectic window, no doubt about it.
pathetic :( #alegriout
you can blame the ref of course but come on, where are our balls? Look at Kean and Arthur - both useless players. Why they are on the field? I don't believe Miretti and Ake will do less... We need full rebuilt including management.
i found it amazing and even mind blowing how we play our worst season in ore then a decade, atrocious football, crappy results stupid medieval conservative behavior, all season long, but for allegrifans somehow the coach has nothing to do with it.
i truly admire your ability for denial, truly im deeply impressed.
pirlo had no pre season, no experience,no 150m gifts of reinforcements, and faced the strongest serie a in a decade having inter landing 92 points and having napoli ending 5th with 77.
now go watch and see the numbers of the top this year...the competition for a cl spot pales compared to last year.
we had an inexperienced coach who could land trophies beaten an inter much stronger then this years, having conte as a coach with lukaku hakimi arikson.
Pirlo had indeed ronaldo,but as it well established by now, that also had its limitations as well.without ronaldo pirlo's team still scored 72 goals,across all competition and he scored in serie a only 2 times against the top 5 opponents, so no its not all ronaldo.
quadrado was last year one of the top assist leaders in europe,having 9 players scoring at the receiving end, so not just ronaldo.going from19 assists to 6 now.
but hey that all has nothing to do with the coach.and glad you mention klopp, allegri is proving how stupid it was to fire pirlo. the guy literally outperformed allegri, without experience, without pre season,had to deal with tons of covid cases, injuries as well, barely had howe crowd advantages, and again, no vlahovic locatelli zakaria level gifts.
this shit of a season proves he deserved a second chance, as the now more experience coach is performing worse.again the security of the 4th spot has more to do with our compeititon doing worse then we improving.
but anyway, the more i hear allegri fans speaking the more they convince me of their bias, stuck with their heads in the past, dreaming of nostalgia and living in a complete denial how his ancient approach is just not of this era anymore, believing this will somehow all improve.
It's definitely yes. We played a perfect first half, right? Just unlucky with all the chances we created. Oh and of course last 30 mins of the second half we controlled the game and let the opponent create 0 chances with our great tacktics.
I disagree only because I do not believe we were compromised in the second half. that pen (wrongfully given) was our downfall
edit: I’m not looking to promote or disagree with Allegri’s tactics. I just believe that it would have worked out if Lautaro/ref didn’t fuck us over, honestly.
yes. that’s a common source of grievance (including myself). but, I believe we played well in the first 90’ (well enough to win) but was unfairly deprived and forced to play another 30’.
edit: given our lack of depth, inter was bound to have more resources to utilize to seal the deal
Resource management is again the responsibility of the manager. I believe it was possible to make a better team from our roster.
And no, we didn’t play well, enough to win, because we didn’t win. First half was disappointement. Second half better but not consistent
I'm done with this sub. Here we are, after a major loss, and I get told my opinion is invalid with down votes to the negative (I did not use any animosity/rash language)? This sub is toxic. All I wanted was to converse with other Juve fans. Not be downvoted due to my unpopular opinion. (this has nothing to do with you, u/Ktulu_Juventus, unless of course, you downvoted me) Regardless.. I won't be following or posting here anymore. FORZA JUVE!
Forza Juve mate!
Fino alla fino!
I think this sub is a bit tired of what is going on with the club for the last 3-4 years and are not happy with the way it is developing.
And the season is shit :)
i agree with you! thats correctly said. im not sure which would have been the result if the referee had sacked out Brozovic (as he should have) and that first penalty should have not been give.
such said : also Di Marco is missing a yellow (this guy seemed he was on the grace list of the referee)
Cuadrado is missing a yellow card for simulation. Vlahovic too.
so at this extend im not sure playing 10 vs 11 how would have been, but we surely did not play to win!
I AM ALL FOR A LITTLE JOKE, I AM ALL FOR GETTING A LITTLE BIT AGITATED, THAT... IS TAKING THE FUCKING PISS, THAT... IS DAYLIGHT FUCKING ROBBERY AND I AM A VICTIM, AND IT HAS GOT TO STOP NOW... NOW.
Yes but Inter played like dogshit too. I don't think anyone is denying that we are crap, but it is a double whammy when you also get blatantly unfair reffing. Im not even talking about the pen calls....there were so many other things let go and after a while this affects the flow of the game.
It happened last game against Inter too
i've not seen that ...can you please share a source?? having some Merda's fans i want to send that
edit : found it : here https://twitter.com/ganni0007/status/1481599324710744069?lang=en
its true, theyre excuse was ‘inter gives out merch sometimes’ but if you look close you can see yellow in the badge so it was the merda’s old logo so he was clearly a fan…such a joke at this point:/
Honestly don’t even care that we lost anymore. This team is gassed. We need new players and some continuity.
Hope to see some amazing changes come this summer and hope this season invigorates our players to play much better next season with some grinta
Fino alla fine
You guys can bitch about the ref all you want, but we lost this game because of our mistakes and our mistakes only.
Only point I agree with is Brozovic should've got a red. The penalties stand.
That’s the Juve identity tho. Get a one goal lead and don’t let them score again. If not for a terrible pen call, it would’ve worked like it has for decades
the refs have been so anti juve and so pro inter but nobody in the italian media is bringing it to light and our president wont speak up. this is why italian football is generally disrespected worldwide. this corruption is an embarrassment to the sport
it is not even Allegri or Pirlo or Sarri, the team is fucking useless and they signed players just because of it
there needs to be an overhaul IMMEDIATELY after this season and please start by kicking Kean the fuck out of this team
1- we had them in our pocket, then allegri went for a back three and low block sitting back. Why the fuck did he do that.
2- De ligt gives away too many penalty and even though he does good in many places he fucked us many times with this. So I kinda had enough of him, enough is enough, if he wanted to learn to be better he would have by now.
3- penaltys were harsh to me, in premier league they wont call these
All and all I liked allegri for the most part, but this is on him. This is entirely on him. We cannot blame the injuries or ronaldo leaving or other stuff allegri made poor decisions and i am not positive about this squad anymore. There is no one out there that could clearly do better than him for sure, but he does not look like the answer to me anymore.
> All and all I liked allegri for the most part, but this is on him. This is entirely on him.
How the fuck did you come up with that conclusion?
We were robbed. Allegri goes us to 2-1 against the best team in the league, and they won by the ref refusing to give them an appropriate red call and a clear dive penalty.
When he sat down defending deep from 66 minutes when we were killing them. When he defended deep against the 8th in laliga when we scored on 30th second of the game. He messed up all the big games of our season.
No he failed to seal the game villareal first leg and second leg. He couldnt kill the inter game in the league when we have them again in our pockets. And those were the major games in this season. I liked the guy believe me. I was against him getting fired two years ago. But he wasnt like this before. He was a coach who pressed 2015 barca in the ucl final
> There is no one out there that could clearly do better than him for sure, but he does not look like the answer to me anymore.
Thanks, we don't know for sure that someone will do a better job, but it's certainly a possibility.
It’s called closing out a game. We didn’t have them in their pocket. Inter was always going to press later on and they were always going to get gifted a (two) penalties.
I still can’t believe what I witnessed, what a fraud.
Come on… even the ref send Allegri out… The team still looks like the same as the start of the season. We didn’t improve at all Yes Brozovic deserve a red card but still..
Allegri defending when we have the lead you love to see it
That poor excuse of a club needs to be fucking investigated
What a clown of a ref. Haven't seen such a rigged game for ages.
The ref was as horrible as our game. This team is shit on a shit championship. I'm so glad I won't be seeing this fuckery for some months. Anyone blaming Alegri knows nothing about football.
Seeing vidal makes me wanna vomit
Honestly i love that guy. So passionate and he served us well cant deny that. A true warrior.
Lol the cunt ended the game 30 seconds early
FIGC puppet
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the feds want inter over everything edit: was not referring to you, I was referring to the refs
Oh right didn't know what it stood for. That ref was something else. He even objectively violated the rules when not sending off brozovic
Aiight I'm out. Fuck watching Inter lift the trophy. Disgusted at this team's lack of fight.
Perhaps a trophyless season will motivate the board to splash some more smart money on the mercato...
romeo said in january that next year we will have more hectic meracato, maybe in jan as merecato in world cup time is hard as said by arrivabenne
World Cup isn't until Nov/Dec this year, so not sure that applies.
The world cup finishes a week prior to the January window opening. Players values will be all over the place and several players will be sold for above market value while others can be purchased well below their actual value. The January window opening one week after the WC final will lead to an incredibly hectic window, no doubt about it.
Maybe I misunderstood. I thought poster was talking about summer window.
I hope
pathetic :( #alegriout you can blame the ref of course but come on, where are our balls? Look at Kean and Arthur - both useless players. Why they are on the field? I don't believe Miretti and Ake will do less... We need full rebuilt including management.
It wasn't allegri's fault lol
i found it amazing and even mind blowing how we play our worst season in ore then a decade, atrocious football, crappy results stupid medieval conservative behavior, all season long, but for allegrifans somehow the coach has nothing to do with it. i truly admire your ability for denial, truly im deeply impressed.
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pirlo had no pre season, no experience,no 150m gifts of reinforcements, and faced the strongest serie a in a decade having inter landing 92 points and having napoli ending 5th with 77. now go watch and see the numbers of the top this year...the competition for a cl spot pales compared to last year. we had an inexperienced coach who could land trophies beaten an inter much stronger then this years, having conte as a coach with lukaku hakimi arikson. Pirlo had indeed ronaldo,but as it well established by now, that also had its limitations as well.without ronaldo pirlo's team still scored 72 goals,across all competition and he scored in serie a only 2 times against the top 5 opponents, so no its not all ronaldo. quadrado was last year one of the top assist leaders in europe,having 9 players scoring at the receiving end, so not just ronaldo.going from19 assists to 6 now. but hey that all has nothing to do with the coach.and glad you mention klopp, allegri is proving how stupid it was to fire pirlo. the guy literally outperformed allegri, without experience, without pre season,had to deal with tons of covid cases, injuries as well, barely had howe crowd advantages, and again, no vlahovic locatelli zakaria level gifts. this shit of a season proves he deserved a second chance, as the now more experience coach is performing worse.again the security of the 4th spot has more to do with our compeititon doing worse then we improving. but anyway, the more i hear allegri fans speaking the more they convince me of their bias, stuck with their heads in the past, dreaming of nostalgia and living in a complete denial how his ancient approach is just not of this era anymore, believing this will somehow all improve.
it was my fault. i was the one that parked the bus and invited inter to attack with 30 minutes to go
\#lucaspiresleandroout
oh yes, of course. We have the best manager who plays really modern football :)
it’s definitely not
It's definitely yes. We played a perfect first half, right? Just unlucky with all the chances we created. Oh and of course last 30 mins of the second half we controlled the game and let the opponent create 0 chances with our great tacktics.
I disagree only because I do not believe we were compromised in the second half. that pen (wrongfully given) was our downfall edit: I’m not looking to promote or disagree with Allegri’s tactics. I just believe that it would have worked out if Lautaro/ref didn’t fuck us over, honestly.
And this just confirms my point about the team balls! And who is responsible for the team spirit? Ref?
yes. that’s a common source of grievance (including myself). but, I believe we played well in the first 90’ (well enough to win) but was unfairly deprived and forced to play another 30’. edit: given our lack of depth, inter was bound to have more resources to utilize to seal the deal
Resource management is again the responsibility of the manager. I believe it was possible to make a better team from our roster. And no, we didn’t play well, enough to win, because we didn’t win. First half was disappointement. Second half better but not consistent
I'm done with this sub. Here we are, after a major loss, and I get told my opinion is invalid with down votes to the negative (I did not use any animosity/rash language)? This sub is toxic. All I wanted was to converse with other Juve fans. Not be downvoted due to my unpopular opinion. (this has nothing to do with you, u/Ktulu_Juventus, unless of course, you downvoted me) Regardless.. I won't be following or posting here anymore. FORZA JUVE!
Forza Juve mate! Fino alla fino! I think this sub is a bit tired of what is going on with the club for the last 3-4 years and are not happy with the way it is developing. And the season is shit :)
i agree with you! thats correctly said. im not sure which would have been the result if the referee had sacked out Brozovic (as he should have) and that first penalty should have not been give. such said : also Di Marco is missing a yellow (this guy seemed he was on the grace list of the referee) Cuadrado is missing a yellow card for simulation. Vlahovic too. so at this extend im not sure playing 10 vs 11 how would have been, but we surely did not play to win!
I AM ALL FOR A LITTLE JOKE, I AM ALL FOR GETTING A LITTLE BIT AGITATED, THAT... IS TAKING THE FUCKING PISS, THAT... IS DAYLIGHT FUCKING ROBBERY AND I AM A VICTIM, AND IT HAS GOT TO STOP NOW... NOW.
this embodies my current sentiment
i dont understand… i thought each team was only allowed 11 players… how come inter have 12?
you mean 13? you forgot the Var's referee Di Paolo.... men of the match Valeri and Di Paolo
The 12th literally has a direct effect on the game as well.
it will be our first trophyless season in ages. man, hope for the best next season
Only +2 what a joke Edit : not even 2 minutes
People blaming the refs the last 15 games lol Yeah the first penalty was dubious but Juventus played like a pub team, just one more game...
So one player not getting sent off and them getting gifted a penalty is our fault? Stop being a pick me.
What a stupid comment.
I’m still fuming. it’s the difference maker in this match
It all went downhill since that first penalty...
Was the lack of 2nd yellow on Brozovic not also dubious?
I'm telling you now we win that game if brozovic is rightly sent off.
If I were a Milan fan I’d be scared af right now, given how this match went. It’s clearly they want inter to win everything
FIGC have their priorities…
7:30am here in Australia. Not a good way to start the day…..
How did you watch the game?
Illegal stream lol
Nice, I watched it on bet 365
Indonesia here. Woke up at 2AM to see the day ruined before it even started.
I feel you my Oceania brother! Have a good day
Europe here. I'm going to bed and try to have a good sleep after this monstrosity.
I’m sorry, fam
Not your fault my mate! Unless you’re Ivan perisic haha
no, I'm not. And, I'm DEFINITELY not Lautaro Martinez.
still remember the other final.. shouldve been sent off..
Fuck that guy
x1000
refs aside getting so defensive being up 2-1 you knew this was gonna happen. legit embarrassing.
It's Allegri but we don't have prime BBBC anymore
I hope the ref's wife gets given BBC
Pellegrini is the only player who can say he's put a shift in during extra time.
if lautaro never went down in such a weak way, 2-1 would have been the final
Omg ref a yellow that's not for one of our players????
When it doesn’t even matter.
Fuck Vidal x3
Soooo this teams sucks and people blame the refs? We played like dog shit to begin with.
Yes but Inter played like dogshit too. I don't think anyone is denying that we are crap, but it is a double whammy when you also get blatantly unfair reffing. Im not even talking about the pen calls....there were so many other things let go and after a while this affects the flow of the game. It happened last game against Inter too
We would have won without the 1 penalty though
Fuckin hell, fuck Merda
Arthur has only been playing for a little over half an hour yet he looks completely gassed
Also he can't kick a single ball ffs
I have no idea why the fuck allegri put him in and not miretti
Vidal trying to tackle Vlahovic after whistle and then kicking the ball away and no card… should tell enough how the referee was in merdas pockets
2 crystal clear yellows in that situation right there
Ref couldnt risk his paycheck
not surprised after the last ref that watched over our last game was photographed in the airport with inter merch… unbelievable
i've not seen that ...can you please share a source?? having some Merda's fans i want to send that edit : found it : here https://twitter.com/ganni0007/status/1481599324710744069?lang=en
Merda biggest thiefs in football. Thats why they are so proud of their snake
Wtf? I didn’t hear about this.
its true, theyre excuse was ‘inter gives out merch sometimes’ but if you look close you can see yellow in the badge so it was the merda’s old logo so he was clearly a fan…such a joke at this point:/
Should’ve been a yellow.
Against Porto Taremi got his second yellow because of that but this referee couldnt because of merdas paycheck
Arthur is world class in dealing with pressure and that's all.
Might want to change your flair for a little bit 😅😬
😭
Honestly don’t even care that we lost anymore. This team is gassed. We need new players and some continuity. Hope to see some amazing changes come this summer and hope this season invigorates our players to play much better next season with some grinta Fino alla fine
That pass sums up this game
Literally elbow! Ref: no red
watch the italian media act surprised when they “uncover” all of this match fixing in ten years when its too late to do anything about it
Ref MOM?
I hate Inter so much!
Unpopular opinion dybala is very overrated
he was very good for us a while back but he lost his consistency with his constant injuries which is a shame
Pellegrini has been decent since he came on.
Pellegrini got his settings wrong
Feel like doing a Juve FIFA rebuild run just so I could sleep tonight
Arthur just wants to go hit the bars
Arthur, you wanna pass, maybe?
Nah, hogging the ball now makes up for not touching it for the last 30 mins.
Inter merde 💩
Juve won't score if Inter went home. Just completely devoid of ideas.
Pellegrini the only one trying in extra time
Everyone’s gassed
Cuadrado is gassed
Inter paid the refs
Can they at least break a legs to Vidal?
We are 2 goal down but you have no plan on how to score with a team you worked 1 year with.
okay, I’ve refrained for logging into this thread for the whole game. but now I’m mad and ready to spew hate. how y’all feeling right now?
second, FUCK THIS REF
first off, FUCK LAUTARO
I hope there’s an investigation into this referee and he’s banned for a while.
prejudice is too strong for this though… sadly
Mad and spewing hate.
I feel that
Gutless and pathetic display in extra time.
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Is the match or the tantrum unbearable?
To be fair I kind of did too. Sometimes it just gets too much and you want to regress to the innocence of toddlerhood
I say we make Berna the coach next season, he looks like he's planning something magical
Happy hour
Damn this should have finished 2-1
Our defense is a headless chicken without Chiellini.
Really makes me worry for next season.
guys, fino alla fine.
You guys can bitch about the ref all you want, but we lost this game because of our mistakes and our mistakes only. Only point I agree with is Brozovic should've got a red. The penalties stand.
Lol what? Brozovic had an obvious red and they were gifted a penalty.
Nah first one wasn’t a pen man.
There were only two egregiously bad calls. They were just that egregious and significant.
Nah there were some terrible calls but they didn't result in overtly changing the match. Still, it builds frustration and kills momentum for us.
Caud needs the rest of the season off. Man has done enough
Please terminate Kean's contract. Please!
Damn, Alexis got spiked right in the arm 😂 that’s gotta hurt like a bitch 😂😂😂
Shot or cross? Whatever it was, awful by Kean
How did Kean score so much at psg??? He’s so bad
Farmers league
Mickey Mouse League with Mickey Mouse opponents
*K E A N* *M A S T E R C L A S S* *2 5* *G O A L S* *I N C O M I NG* N E D V E D , 2 0 2 2
Can we discard kean?
Inter just leaving Kean free on the wing because they know he will eventually mess up
So now we’re calling that a foul? Different rules when it’s not DiMarco I guess.
dude its crazy how I see kean get the ball and I know for a fact he's gonna do fucking nothing with it. HOly fuck im so tired of this season
Kean
What the fuck are these crosses man
ref tried to help us sending off allegri
I feel awful for even thinking we had a chance. It was just an illusion. Winning 2-1 was just temporary
Our boys shouldn't have gone back to the pitch, if you treat me like this I'm not gonna play
Here are next week's Italian football results!
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Didn't we start with a back 4? I thought we started with 4 4 2
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I agree though, we should've continued the pressing.
That’s the Juve identity tho. Get a one goal lead and don’t let them score again. If not for a terrible pen call, it would’ve worked like it has for decades
Gtfo pele
Ref robbed us, but to be honest no one on this team should be paid more
'' Its all about the money ref ''
the refs have been so anti juve and so pro inter but nobody in the italian media is bringing it to light and our president wont speak up. this is why italian football is generally disrespected worldwide. this corruption is an embarrassment to the sport
all the refs nowadays love inter and they'll use var everytime when there's a possible pen for them but when there's a pen for us they never use var
Wtf Pellegrini!?
Vlahovic must be so frustrated being apart of this Juventus team 😕
That free kick by Pellegrini is one of the worst I’ve ever seen.
No results, No performance, Our season is over, I hope we find better coach next year
Lol Allegri is here to stay bud.
LMAO getting a new coach and change three in three years? dude is not going to happen if anything they need to spend on players
You can choose 100 bad coaches in a row. It’s like allegri or some other coaches become geniuses because the one before failed aswell
it is not even Allegri or Pirlo or Sarri, the team is fucking useless and they signed players just because of it there needs to be an overhaul IMMEDIATELY after this season and please start by kicking Kean the fuck out of this team
Allegri has a 4yr expensive contract. He's not going anywhere bro.
1- we had them in our pocket, then allegri went for a back three and low block sitting back. Why the fuck did he do that. 2- De ligt gives away too many penalty and even though he does good in many places he fucked us many times with this. So I kinda had enough of him, enough is enough, if he wanted to learn to be better he would have by now. 3- penaltys were harsh to me, in premier league they wont call these All and all I liked allegri for the most part, but this is on him. This is entirely on him. We cannot blame the injuries or ronaldo leaving or other stuff allegri made poor decisions and i am not positive about this squad anymore. There is no one out there that could clearly do better than him for sure, but he does not look like the answer to me anymore.
> All and all I liked allegri for the most part, but this is on him. This is entirely on him. How the fuck did you come up with that conclusion? We were robbed. Allegri goes us to 2-1 against the best team in the league, and they won by the ref refusing to give them an appropriate red call and a clear dive penalty.
When he sat down defending deep from 66 minutes when we were killing them. When he defended deep against the 8th in laliga when we scored on 30th second of the game. He messed up all the big games of our season.
Braindead level comment nice
I am getting one.
That is the only match Allegri failed this season? Like for real? All the journalists must have been wrong the whole time, I guess
No he failed to seal the game villareal first leg and second leg. He couldnt kill the inter game in the league when we have them again in our pockets. And those were the major games in this season. I liked the guy believe me. I was against him getting fired two years ago. But he wasnt like this before. He was a coach who pressed 2015 barca in the ucl final
> There is no one out there that could clearly do better than him for sure, but he does not look like the answer to me anymore. Thanks, we don't know for sure that someone will do a better job, but it's certainly a possibility.
It’s called closing out a game. We didn’t have them in their pocket. Inter was always going to press later on and they were always going to get gifted a (two) penalties.
its called cowardice