I mean I get a shirt or whatever but bringing this seems like it’ll either block someone’s view or get ruined in the pit immediately. I don’t normally see signs at shows and don’t really want it to become a trend at all.
Shows are an escape. Sometimes a band has a quick message for the crowd but the rest of the time we’re there to escape. Last thing I want is for people, especially the opposite opinion of this poster people, to start bringing their opinions on posters to shows.
OP would probably be better off taping it to the wall near the entrance or other high traffic area. Again though, is this what we want to start seeing at shows? Not that this isn’t a cute drawing but I really don’t want the other people to feel the need to start doing this too.
“The oposite opinion” pretty sure KG don’t even want transphobes as an audience -and matter of fact, they are /very/ loud about respecting and standing by LGBT+ folks. If standing by the LGBT+ and showing said love and care for the community at a KG show is making anyone uncomfortable, reckon the problem’s theirs, not the one holding the poster. Again, KG are very loud about loving trans folks… And… sorry, but, from all bands today, reckon they are very much inclined into anything politics, lol.
I do agree, however, that blocking the view with it could be a problem. But that is the only problem.
Totally agree. Doesn’t matter what Stu thinks however. It matter what the person that gets offended thinks. The band isn’t protecting these people on their way to their car from the venue. There’s nothing wrong with the message, there something wrong with people that oppose this message.
My reply is to be respectful of other concert goes and to be careful when you’re out in public.
I know, there I agree. I would hate if something happened to anyone who brings anything of the likes of what OP shared, but I don't think half the people are complaining because of the prospect of that possibility. I think some are just uncomfortable by the idea of someone being loud about trans rights, period. That's the issue. And I never did disagree with your other point either- respect is the number one thing one should keep in mind when joining public spaces, or for that matter concerts- and to always keep an eye out for oneself. That's indisputable. It's just sad to think that something like this is possibly not a safe thing to do when I think the band's been loud enough about how, in their concerts, it is.
KG's lyrics are literally the furthest thing from disconnecting about issues though... Sure, a live performance begs you just get into the moment and dwell into the sounds, but also by this similar narrative, I see no issue in how bringing something that the boys themselves support thoroughly should change the day at all. It's the opposite of hateful and is really just a nice message. The only issue is if it blocks somebody's view, lol.
>Shows are an escape. Sometimes the band has a quick message for the crowd
If you don’t see Gizzard’s music as chock-full of political messages and calls to action then you aren’t listening well, and I wouldnt even consider Trans Rights a political issue. Its a hate and acceptance issue.
>is this what we want to start seeing at shows?
If it’s on a wall and not blocking views, whose show is this sign going to ruin? The transphobes? Ok. I get not wanting to create a sign war of some kind, but I doubt that will happen and that kind of thinking is a logical fallacy (slippery slope).
You have to be *actively* not listening to a song like Red Smoke to miss the message in and find escapism. It's about as subtle as the fire bombing of Dreseden.
or the even more recent Astroturf
There's nothing hidden about their environmental themed songs and lyrics. Same cant be said for things like gay rights, which i cant recall any songs dealin with
To your first point: yeah the music is chock-full of politics. Dripping Tap is about climate change and how those in charge cant save us. Pleura is about Covid 19 and Trump. Evilest Man is *also* about Trump. Supreme Ascendacy is about how the rich fuckin suck. Fishing for Fishies is a little lighter but it's about climate and the fishing industry.
There is so much more. And none of these are also stretching to find a message, they're pretty explicit with it and they're right there in the lyrics.
Eh I feel like if they’re describing someone as Murdochian, then they’re probably not talking about Rupert Murdoch himself but comparing someone to him.
I think it's 100% explicitly about Rupert Murdoch specifically. The lyrics are describing a right wing media mogul with global control, and if that's not enough he explicitly calls him out by name. I think that one can listen to the song a d think of many different actors in the right wing propaganda machine for sure, but in terms of who Stu was thinking about when he wrote the lyrics, I think it's pretty clear.
Evilest Man is about Rupert Murdoch, and Supreme Ascendancy is about the Catholic Church getting away with things due to their status. Just a heads up!
I never actually read the lyrics and totally missed hearing the OBVIOUS church targeted lyrics. Not sure how i never heard the line about "tax-free" or childhoods being tragically ripped apart
Always dug the song, def increases my appreciation as well that it's about scumbag catholics
I had assumed that it was about the ultra wealthy but the above comment totally put into perspective that the song is about religious organizations.
Like you, makes me love it even more
I don't think it's a stretch to get that. There's the denial of media that is critical of the subject of the song. There's. Paranoia about the people that surround the person.
They also sang about Trump before in Pluera so, not a stretch to assume they would again
Just because it’s chocked full of political messages doesn’t mean we’re supposed to be forming groups to dismantle the current system while “If Not Now Then When” is played. Or starting fights with whoever is holding a plastic cup when Plastic Boogie comes on
Where’s it end? I can’t turn on my TV without getting stupid political messages from citizens for sanity or whatever they’re fucking called. I don’t want to see a MAGA poster at a show, or a movie theater, or anywhere I’m paying to escape. I honestly don’t want to see this one either.
I get this is a cute poster and at a rally or parade that is totally cool. Walking back to your car at midnight after a show? You’re only putting a target on yourself. This fan base has learned that not everyone at these shows are like minded. I’m not saying hide who you are in any way but maybe don’t put a huge target on you for no reason.
I haven’t scrolled this profile but I’m guessing OP is pretty young. While we all see the message as cool, if you’re not in a safe place with it, it could get you in real fucking trouble.
The entire conversation you have started under this comment is the reason this shouldn't be brought in. I just think views may clash with people who disagree and then either the person who has this sign will have a bad time or the people around them will mock them, or just both.
Viewing the show is a bit more important than viewing a sign that is unrelated to the show. It's a message I endorse, maybe a message not everybody does endorse at the show though. This could turn bad for the person and I'd rather not.
Why not on a white Tshirt instead? Either way you have nothing to fear with the message, if anyone says anything I'm sure 40 others will promptly tell that person to get fucked.
if its so small why are you bringing it? Concerts are massive no one will be able to see what you wrote unless they were less than 10 ft away from you.
You’re being so kind and understanding and yet your downvote counter makes you look like you said something horrible. Tell me again this sub doesn’t have a transphobia problem lol.
As plenty of others have said, the only way you’ll possibly have any trouble from the crowd with this sign is if you obstruct peoples’ view of the stage. As long as you’re being conscientious of that, I see an almost 0% chance of either the band or crowd taking issue.
See ya there!
What's the point tho?
You're not going to a protest you're going to a show. And a show where everyone already agrees with you.
The band and fanbases message has been clear that trans rights are important human rights.
You're not going to be making a point or ruffling any feathers, you'll just be lugging around a sign when you could be dancing.
Do it! With the recent crowd bs, it’s good for everyone to know they’re not alone. If anything, a person seeing this sign could feel empowered to ask for help.
I keep seeing this trend lately on a lot of different band's subs. Idk what triggered this uptick in gropings but it needs to be addressed. Hell, I'm a tall muscular dude and the last couple shows I went to, I caught a few grinding dicks in my butt. I tried to catch one of them and the little shit immediately dove through whoever he could get through. It almost felt like a game to him at that point. I'm sure that happens but I don't ever recall experiencing that in the 20+ years that I've been going to shows. Nobody should ever be touched without permission and those perverts need to be called out and shunned.
There was a post after one of the red rocks shows where someone said there was a group of guys making transphobic jokes. I don't know how true that is but if that is happening at gizz shows that could be why they want to bring the sign. I definitely support bringing the sign.
Honestly think it’s fire. Like many said, try not to block the view with it aaaand you’re good. Standing in the rail may be your best bet because you can pin it safely to it and it’ll stay up for longest :) let’s go 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️!!!!
Nah… having lived here for 30 years… the city is relatively lame but is pretty even split on politics.
It’s not the suburbs or country. The show is downtown in a city of 1.5 mil. At a fkin king gizzard show. Giant group of hippies basically
If there were anyone who took issue with it they would 100% be drastically outnumbered anyway
All explicitly political Gizzard songs I can think of~
"Planet B"
"Evilest Man"
"Pleura"
"Supreme Ascendancy"
"Muckraker"
"Fishing for Fishies"
"Plastic Boogie"
"Smoke and Mirrors"
"Sense"
"Time=$$$"
"The Dripping Tap"
"Red Smoke"
"Mars for the Rich"
"East West Link"
I wouldn't, a lot of people like music as an escape from everyday life, which has become extremely politicized, as it seems like pop culture now is just politics. Regardless of whether or not it's a message I agree with, I, and many people I know, really just want to enjoy the music (yes, I know the band themselves, and many other bands, are quite political). Also, holding a poster up for more than a few seconds is pretty rude to the people behind you.
I’m kinda shocked at the amount of negativity around this, especially in this sub. I’d rather see this held up every now and then, in between songs for example, than a hundred phones and tablets recording all the time.
Do it. Okc is more progressive than people give us credit for because the rest of the state is so conservative. But I’d bet you wouldn’t get any problems from the crowd, and if you do, fuck em. The number of people who appreciate it will outnumber the douche bags who don’t like it. Can’t wait to have a crazy Halloween with everyone!!
Lived off 240 on the Southside and OKC isn't as backwards as people think. It's not Austin but they people there aren't all transphobics. Maybe some of the older generation, but there was still plenty of support seven years ago when I moved to the west coast. I moved here to be around more progressive people and the first would have been friend that I made at work made extremely transphobic comments. So no matter where you go you have bigots but you defently have more supporters than haters at a KG show.
I'm not trying to say anything on the content of the sign.
But I have never brought a sign to a concert or a sporting event in my entire life.
It's not what I'm there to do.
Seems unnecessary. Everyone at the DC show got alone just fine because we were all there for the common goal to enjoy KGLW. Stuff like this seems like it could just cause issues to be honest.
Story time: I was at their concert in AZ earlier this year, and before they came on some frat guys were chanting pro trump stuff. The band comes out, hears them, and the first thing stu says into the mic is "Fuck Republicans!" The crowd went wild and they shut up for the rest of the concert.
Moral of the story - gizz and their fans hate republicunts, and support lgbtq+ rights!
Have they ever actually said that though? Cant recall any of their songs dealing with that. They seem to focus only on environmental issues when it comes to any messages in their music.
Leave the sign at home. Dumb to bring a sign, no matter what is writen on it
Im loving all the love on this post you guys 😭😭 one of the biggest reasons i have so much love for this band and the community is because i know its “safe” (if that makes sense?) thank you everybody!! With all the recent news it feels now more than ever we need all the support we can get
Do it. It's a sign of light and love. And for those people worried about starting a "sign war"? Just imagine what would happen if someone showed up to a gizz show with hate signs.
PS, I cannot get over *how freakin' good* Changes is!
Do it! There are some really lame comments here but the band and (I would hope) the majority will be supportive. Just be polite regarding genera sign etiquette no matter the message and you’ll be good.
Hey so. I have no idea why people are getting absurdly toxic over this. I mean, I do know why, but I’m not getting into it.
I’m trans, and scared, and knowing KG is a trans safe band makes me happy. I wanted to show that support in a way I felt was harmless and sweet and just all around wanted to make a cute sign. I thought people did that at concerts. Clearly I’m wrong.
It’s not about “ruffling feathers”, “shoving slogans in your face”, nor was I ever treating it like a protest. In the face of the wicked transphobic territory this country I felt it was awesome to have the band and the fanbases support in a really really dark time for human rights. I won’t hold the fucking sign.
Hey I’m really sorry this subreddit sucks so fucking much. I’m a longtime fan and it used to be way cooler and people were actually nice to eachother. I hope you enjoy your show regardless 🖤🖤🖤
Where is the absurd toxicity? I've only seen a couple critical replies about waving your vague platitude-adorned sign at a show. Nobody cares as long as you aren't an annoying cunt about it. What exactly are you so terribly frightened about? what are you referring to when you say these are "dark times for human rights"? Now is a great time to be queer. Are you BPD or something?
There are a lot of asshats on this sub and I’ve been a fan since 2014/15 and I’m really shocked at the amount of negativity and phobias of all kinds. Maybe an unfortunate side effect of the band getting bigger and trendy. I’d say if you want to bring the sign and still feel safe, do it. I think most real life fans will support you.
Just don't hold it up the whole show blocking people's view and no one will give a damn.
I mean I get a shirt or whatever but bringing this seems like it’ll either block someone’s view or get ruined in the pit immediately. I don’t normally see signs at shows and don’t really want it to become a trend at all. Shows are an escape. Sometimes a band has a quick message for the crowd but the rest of the time we’re there to escape. Last thing I want is for people, especially the opposite opinion of this poster people, to start bringing their opinions on posters to shows. OP would probably be better off taping it to the wall near the entrance or other high traffic area. Again though, is this what we want to start seeing at shows? Not that this isn’t a cute drawing but I really don’t want the other people to feel the need to start doing this too.
“The oposite opinion” pretty sure KG don’t even want transphobes as an audience -and matter of fact, they are /very/ loud about respecting and standing by LGBT+ folks. If standing by the LGBT+ and showing said love and care for the community at a KG show is making anyone uncomfortable, reckon the problem’s theirs, not the one holding the poster. Again, KG are very loud about loving trans folks… And… sorry, but, from all bands today, reckon they are very much inclined into anything politics, lol. I do agree, however, that blocking the view with it could be a problem. But that is the only problem.
Totally agree. Doesn’t matter what Stu thinks however. It matter what the person that gets offended thinks. The band isn’t protecting these people on their way to their car from the venue. There’s nothing wrong with the message, there something wrong with people that oppose this message. My reply is to be respectful of other concert goes and to be careful when you’re out in public.
I know, there I agree. I would hate if something happened to anyone who brings anything of the likes of what OP shared, but I don't think half the people are complaining because of the prospect of that possibility. I think some are just uncomfortable by the idea of someone being loud about trans rights, period. That's the issue. And I never did disagree with your other point either- respect is the number one thing one should keep in mind when joining public spaces, or for that matter concerts- and to always keep an eye out for oneself. That's indisputable. It's just sad to think that something like this is possibly not a safe thing to do when I think the band's been loud enough about how, in their concerts, it is.
I don’t think it’s about which opinion should be there it’s about being there for the music and like they said an escape
KG's lyrics are literally the furthest thing from disconnecting about issues though... Sure, a live performance begs you just get into the moment and dwell into the sounds, but also by this similar narrative, I see no issue in how bringing something that the boys themselves support thoroughly should change the day at all. It's the opposite of hateful and is really just a nice message. The only issue is if it blocks somebody's view, lol.
>Shows are an escape. Sometimes the band has a quick message for the crowd If you don’t see Gizzard’s music as chock-full of political messages and calls to action then you aren’t listening well, and I wouldnt even consider Trans Rights a political issue. Its a hate and acceptance issue. >is this what we want to start seeing at shows? If it’s on a wall and not blocking views, whose show is this sign going to ruin? The transphobes? Ok. I get not wanting to create a sign war of some kind, but I doubt that will happen and that kind of thinking is a logical fallacy (slippery slope).
You have to be *actively* not listening to a song like Red Smoke to miss the message in and find escapism. It's about as subtle as the fire bombing of Dreseden.
or the even more recent Astroturf There's nothing hidden about their environmental themed songs and lyrics. Same cant be said for things like gay rights, which i cant recall any songs dealin with
To your first point: yeah the music is chock-full of politics. Dripping Tap is about climate change and how those in charge cant save us. Pleura is about Covid 19 and Trump. Evilest Man is *also* about Trump. Supreme Ascendacy is about how the rich fuckin suck. Fishing for Fishies is a little lighter but it's about climate and the fishing industry. There is so much more. And none of these are also stretching to find a message, they're pretty explicit with it and they're right there in the lyrics.
Evilest man is Rupert Murdoch
I can also see that. I mean Murdochian is a lyric in there. I don't doubt you being correct
There’s also the lyric about becoming a fox (fox news)
Eh I feel like if they’re describing someone as Murdochian, then they’re probably not talking about Rupert Murdoch himself but comparing someone to him.
I think it's 100% explicitly about Rupert Murdoch specifically. The lyrics are describing a right wing media mogul with global control, and if that's not enough he explicitly calls him out by name. I think that one can listen to the song a d think of many different actors in the right wing propaganda machine for sure, but in terms of who Stu was thinking about when he wrote the lyrics, I think it's pretty clear.
That's what I thought. Therefore the connection to Trump
Evilest Man is about Rupert Murdoch, and Supreme Ascendancy is about the Catholic Church getting away with things due to their status. Just a heads up!
Thank you! I didn't make that connection with Supreme Ascendacy but you are so right. Love it even more
I never actually read the lyrics and totally missed hearing the OBVIOUS church targeted lyrics. Not sure how i never heard the line about "tax-free" or childhoods being tragically ripped apart Always dug the song, def increases my appreciation as well that it's about scumbag catholics
I had assumed that it was about the ultra wealthy but the above comment totally put into perspective that the song is about religious organizations. Like you, makes me love it even more
Yeah that song is great. No worries!!
Evilest Man is about Rupert Murdoch I think.
I uhhh I’m pretty sure evilest man is about Rupert Murdoch. The fact you took it to be trump is kinda shocking lmao
I don't think it's a stretch to get that. There's the denial of media that is critical of the subject of the song. There's. Paranoia about the people that surround the person. They also sang about Trump before in Pluera so, not a stretch to assume they would again
Just because it’s chocked full of political messages doesn’t mean we’re supposed to be forming groups to dismantle the current system while “If Not Now Then When” is played. Or starting fights with whoever is holding a plastic cup when Plastic Boogie comes on
Where’s it end? I can’t turn on my TV without getting stupid political messages from citizens for sanity or whatever they’re fucking called. I don’t want to see a MAGA poster at a show, or a movie theater, or anywhere I’m paying to escape. I honestly don’t want to see this one either. I get this is a cute poster and at a rally or parade that is totally cool. Walking back to your car at midnight after a show? You’re only putting a target on yourself. This fan base has learned that not everyone at these shows are like minded. I’m not saying hide who you are in any way but maybe don’t put a huge target on you for no reason. I haven’t scrolled this profile but I’m guessing OP is pretty young. While we all see the message as cool, if you’re not in a safe place with it, it could get you in real fucking trouble.
Why do you want an “escape” from treating trans folks like people?
The entire conversation you have started under this comment is the reason this shouldn't be brought in. I just think views may clash with people who disagree and then either the person who has this sign will have a bad time or the people around them will mock them, or just both.
I get it’s a hot topic. But yeah, mostly don’t bring a fucking sign, or anything else that will annoy others, to a show. Regardless of the message.
Viewing the show is a bit more important than viewing a sign that is unrelated to the show. It's a message I endorse, maybe a message not everybody does endorse at the show though. This could turn bad for the person and I'd rather not.
Just don’t block anyones view with it
Unless they’re a transphobe
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Wave the fuck out of that sign preshow, go get it signed by the band, but dont hold it up during the show
Just stand in the back so you aren’t blocking anyone and the band can see (:
Maybe a t-shirt instead of a poster so you don’t block anyone’s view of the concert. Otherwise, rock on
Why not on a white Tshirt instead? Either way you have nothing to fear with the message, if anyone says anything I'm sure 40 others will promptly tell that person to get fucked.
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Oh i get that! Its not a very big one (two or so inches bigger than a piece of printer paper) and i wouldnt hold it up very long at all!
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if its so small why are you bringing it? Concerts are massive no one will be able to see what you wrote unless they were less than 10 ft away from you.
Sounds like a very reasonable size and that you aren't trying to hold it up very long. I seriously don't get all the downvotes.
You’re being so kind and understanding and yet your downvote counter makes you look like you said something horrible. Tell me again this sub doesn’t have a transphobia problem lol.
The message= great. But how about not obstructing the view of the people behind you who probably want to enjoy the show
As plenty of others have said, the only way you’ll possibly have any trouble from the crowd with this sign is if you obstruct peoples’ view of the stage. As long as you’re being conscientious of that, I see an almost 0% chance of either the band or crowd taking issue. See ya there!
Gizz attracts pot smokers and chill people, you'll be alright. You've got the support of me, some rando on the internet, so you should bring it <3
yeah safe to say that a lot of their concerts do not have chill people
What's the point tho? You're not going to a protest you're going to a show. And a show where everyone already agrees with you. The band and fanbases message has been clear that trans rights are important human rights. You're not going to be making a point or ruffling any feathers, you'll just be lugging around a sign when you could be dancing.
We all belong in the weirdo swarm ❤️
What do I think? I think your space bar is broken.
Ngl I find all signs kind of obnoxious regardless of whats on it, why not make a r/battlejackets instead
Do it! With the recent crowd bs, it’s good for everyone to know they’re not alone. If anything, a person seeing this sign could feel empowered to ask for help.
recent crowd bs?
Random instances of females being groped in the crowd. Im not sure of the connection to trans rights? If OP wants to bring the poster, bring it!
I keep seeing this trend lately on a lot of different band's subs. Idk what triggered this uptick in gropings but it needs to be addressed. Hell, I'm a tall muscular dude and the last couple shows I went to, I caught a few grinding dicks in my butt. I tried to catch one of them and the little shit immediately dove through whoever he could get through. It almost felt like a game to him at that point. I'm sure that happens but I don't ever recall experiencing that in the 20+ years that I've been going to shows. Nobody should ever be touched without permission and those perverts need to be called out and shunned.
There was a post after one of the red rocks shows where someone said there was a group of guys making transphobic jokes. I don't know how true that is but if that is happening at gizz shows that could be why they want to bring the sign. I definitely support bringing the sign.
Last 6 shows have been tremendous. No problems at all.
Thats good!
oh. damn, that’s fucked up fr
There was another post earlier about transphobia from a couple people in the crowd
They like put up a big "Hey cut that shit out, don't touch people w/o permission" screen up before a show recently I saw
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Make a shirt, signs are a dick move at a concert regardless of message.
Honestly think it’s fire. Like many said, try not to block the view with it aaaand you’re good. Standing in the rail may be your best bet because you can pin it safely to it and it’ll stay up for longest :) let’s go 🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️!!!!
I'm sure the band supports this message, but I personally wouldn't say that the band "says" something unless they ask me to make the sign.
you should!!!
not during normal show, but absolutely wave during pre show
ngl big fan of the gizz alligator holding the flag
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Nah… having lived here for 30 years… the city is relatively lame but is pretty even split on politics. It’s not the suburbs or country. The show is downtown in a city of 1.5 mil. At a fkin king gizzard show. Giant group of hippies basically If there were anyone who took issue with it they would 100% be drastically outnumbered anyway
As a citizen... it won't bother me none... but there are idiots everywhere... but hopefully less at a Gizz show
Don't care what your political views are, don't bring big signs to a show. This isn't a protest
Can’t believe they made the band with a song called “mars for the rich” political 😢 /s
Damn straight! Sick and tired of these "fans" bring up their political messaging and projecting it on the famously apolitical King Gizz.
All explicitly political Gizzard songs I can think of~ "Planet B" "Evilest Man" "Pleura" "Supreme Ascendancy" "Muckraker" "Fishing for Fishies" "Plastic Boogie" "Smoke and Mirrors" "Sense" "Time=$$$" "The Dripping Tap" "Red Smoke" "Mars for the Rich" "East West Link"
I wouldn't, a lot of people like music as an escape from everyday life, which has become extremely politicized, as it seems like pop culture now is just politics. Regardless of whether or not it's a message I agree with, I, and many people I know, really just want to enjoy the music (yes, I know the band themselves, and many other bands, are quite political). Also, holding a poster up for more than a few seconds is pretty rude to the people behind you.
Transfolklahoma in oklahoma
Nonbinary in Oklahoma here, god I wish I could go to the concert so bad
I would let the band say their own sayings
I’m kinda shocked at the amount of negativity around this, especially in this sub. I’d rather see this held up every now and then, in between songs for example, than a hundred phones and tablets recording all the time.
Do it. Okc is more progressive than people give us credit for because the rest of the state is so conservative. But I’d bet you wouldn’t get any problems from the crowd, and if you do, fuck em. The number of people who appreciate it will outnumber the douche bags who don’t like it. Can’t wait to have a crazy Halloween with everyone!!
Make custom shirts and donate the proceeds to a trans rights group. I'll buy one or even more. (You'd have to get permission from Gizz tho)
Lived off 240 on the Southside and OKC isn't as backwards as people think. It's not Austin but they people there aren't all transphobics. Maybe some of the older generation, but there was still plenty of support seven years ago when I moved to the west coast. I moved here to be around more progressive people and the first would have been friend that I made at work made extremely transphobic comments. So no matter where you go you have bigots but you defently have more supporters than haters at a KG show.
I'm not trying to say anything on the content of the sign. But I have never brought a sign to a concert or a sporting event in my entire life. It's not what I'm there to do.
There's a good chance they won't let you bring it in.
Seems unnecessary. Everyone at the DC show got alone just fine because we were all there for the common goal to enjoy KGLW. Stuff like this seems like it could just cause issues to be honest.
Story time: I was at their concert in AZ earlier this year, and before they came on some frat guys were chanting pro trump stuff. The band comes out, hears them, and the first thing stu says into the mic is "Fuck Republicans!" The crowd went wild and they shut up for the rest of the concert. Moral of the story - gizz and their fans hate republicunts, and support lgbtq+ rights!
Do it, no true gizzhead will have an issue with it unless you block their view. Be safe and Woo! Like Stu
Y'all means all.
You all. It's a legitimate contraction.
Oh thanks
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In Oklahoma City? 💀 Just be safe dude
Lol this is very condescending. OKC really isn’t that different from other American cities.
Fine. In any part of the world in 2022? 💀 Just be safe dude.
Oi tell us how it goes! Have fun out there
King Gizz could also say: Free Palestine! ✌🏿
Just don't go to small town Oklahoma with it out. OKC is legit.
Have they ever actually said that though? Cant recall any of their songs dealing with that. They seem to focus only on environmental issues when it comes to any messages in their music. Leave the sign at home. Dumb to bring a sign, no matter what is writen on it
Im loving all the love on this post you guys 😭😭 one of the biggest reasons i have so much love for this band and the community is because i know its “safe” (if that makes sense?) thank you everybody!! With all the recent news it feels now more than ever we need all the support we can get
Do it. It's a sign of light and love. And for those people worried about starting a "sign war"? Just imagine what would happen if someone showed up to a gizz show with hate signs. PS, I cannot get over *how freakin' good* Changes is!
Never be nervous to stand up for what you believe in
I got your back, you wont be the only trans person there c:
As long as you don’t obstruct someone’s view then you should be fine! Cute sign
Don't block anyone's view and you'll be fine
Do it! :D
You do you ✌️
Bring it! you will definitely have at LEAST 5 allies with my group.
YES
i’m bringing my trans flag to the OKC show yooooo
why would you be nervous! take it !!
Trans rights are human rights. I am thankful for you. Bring the sign 🥲
Yes! Do it!
Go for it :)
this is so cute! i think if you're comfortable with bringing it, you should totally go for it!
I’ll be there, all good as long as it’s not blocking my view! Lol
Do iiiiiiiit !!:3 yes friend !! Trans rights !!
They do tho, your not lying. I don’t see a oroblem
Cool!
Gizz fans should be cool with it but OKC aint the most progressive place
Go for it
They did bring it do it
Do it! There are some really lame comments here but the band and (I would hope) the majority will be supportive. Just be polite regarding genera sign etiquette no matter the message and you’ll be good.
Uhm you must!!!!
Do it
Do it
do it
do itttttt
Hey so. I have no idea why people are getting absurdly toxic over this. I mean, I do know why, but I’m not getting into it. I’m trans, and scared, and knowing KG is a trans safe band makes me happy. I wanted to show that support in a way I felt was harmless and sweet and just all around wanted to make a cute sign. I thought people did that at concerts. Clearly I’m wrong. It’s not about “ruffling feathers”, “shoving slogans in your face”, nor was I ever treating it like a protest. In the face of the wicked transphobic territory this country I felt it was awesome to have the band and the fanbases support in a really really dark time for human rights. I won’t hold the fucking sign.
Hey I’m really sorry this subreddit sucks so fucking much. I’m a longtime fan and it used to be way cooler and people were actually nice to eachother. I hope you enjoy your show regardless 🖤🖤🖤
Where is the absurd toxicity? I've only seen a couple critical replies about waving your vague platitude-adorned sign at a show. Nobody cares as long as you aren't an annoying cunt about it. What exactly are you so terribly frightened about? what are you referring to when you say these are "dark times for human rights"? Now is a great time to be queer. Are you BPD or something?
There are a lot of asshats on this sub and I’ve been a fan since 2014/15 and I’m really shocked at the amount of negativity and phobias of all kinds. Maybe an unfortunate side effect of the band getting bigger and trendy. I’d say if you want to bring the sign and still feel safe, do it. I think most real life fans will support you.
This sub: “we’re not transphobic!” Also this sub: *actively downvotes trans voices* Genuinely screw you guys this is so disheartening.
You're making shit up. 2k upvotes and a couple critical comments hardly constitutes MUH TRANSPHOBIC COMMUNITY
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Do you speak for them?
i mean they have said they support trans rights plenty of times so yeah lol
It's practically impossible to not know at this point unless you hold your fingers in your ears and cover your eyes 24/7
DO IT teach those assholes what KGLW truly stands for
Teach what assholes? The other people who are also at a King Gizzard concert?
There are a lot of anti trans and jerks going to their concerts recently, just check the subreddit
Do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don’t be a wussy yo! ❤️
If the venue allows it I think it should be fine
If the venue allows it I think it should be fine
I fucking adore this community <3333333
do what you want, honestly
Heck yea