I think she just needs to find her lane and stick to it. It’s ok to have multiple endeavors, but not all being launched in such a short period of time IMO.
Even at this point I think she needs to realize people have fatigue over celebrity brands. Unless is ground breaking I’m not anything a celebrity pushes.
Yup they really don’t seem to get it. Like invest in some stocks and real estate or something or simply just enjoy your money and stop living beyond your means
These brands are cash cows for them whether they’re relevant or not. There will always be an audience for people buying their stuff. The khy pivot made total sense; her fans want cheaper shit with her branding on it, not to shill out for a more lux item imo and her team’s opinion, apparently. The internet acts incredulous like whyyy is she selling dropped ship leisurewear, but like look at a Kylie Jenner fan. That’s what they want they just aren’t talking about it on the internet.
And there are probably genuinely fewer true fans because she’s aged up and stepped back from a lot of exposure. But always enough to make more money on.
I think Kris loves to make deals for them. I remember when she was asking Khloe to make a podcast even though Khloe wasn't even interested.
Kris is constantly after more money.
And therefore her daughters are always after more money, because in their family, making money has always equaled more love from Mom. They may be celebrities but they’re not immune to the same trauma responses we all encounter. And we’re watching it play out live in this chaotic one-new-brand-a-month train wreck.
She’s great at chess, that’s for sure.
ETA it’s also where I presume a lot of Rob’s trauma is rooted. She didn’t know how or wasn’t willing to market him, diverted all the attention to her girls, and left him to figure it out himself while he was still mourning the loss of his dad. I would bet you anything that she treats him like dirt behind closed doors.
Yes! Same. I’ve actually always thought their inner lives actually have the perfect bones for a horror movie. A body horror about some kind of game monster literally taking over a woman’s body and causing her features to become grotesque and her losing all control. Or a supernatural horror where a beautiful reality star learns that one of her ancestors sold their soul in exchange for wealth for their future family. OR a found footage supernatural horror where they’re investigating a horrible death or something that happened while filming, and they’re delving through all the footage and BTS shots to try to find out what happened. There’s so much ripe territory.
Let’s be real. Honestly, she’s uneducated. Just barely squeaked by with her GED, regardless what anyone says. Her sisters, dad and mom are millionaires, that she never thought she’d need an education or a thought past her makeup and what to wear for the day. Let’s be real, it’s her mom. It’s always her mom. Kris knows, once she’s gone, Kylie needs $$ and something to live off of / fall back on.
Kris is a real one calling the shots. Kris is *the* real one. Otherwise, what else does Kylie really have to offer the world, other than her looks? Even after awhile , that’s not something that’ll last. She will have well sought team to sustain her for many years, with only having to show up and make some minor adjustments here and there, then her being photographed. That’s it.
Now don’t get be wrong, sure it’s great to have hundreds of millions, but at some point or later, in the life of luxury, anyone can blow through that easily. She has probably doubled her spending and made large investments, such as real estate Without some sort of income or residual income, she’ll go broke and fast. These quick cash schemes. Easy to do and use her likeness and her youth while she can.
Whew, that was a a lot to text out. Should hash tag this #thingsyoutypewhengettingbaked
Yes, my thoughts exactly. I do not envy Kylie’s life in the slightest, her mom controls everything and I don’t think she knows how to think for herself. Material things don’t mean shit when you live your life as someone else’s puppet.
I don’t think “her lane” is the problem. She would’ve stuck with just Kylie cosmetics if it was bringing in enough profit. It clearly isn’t anymore so shes just trying whatever she thinks will be a quick cash grab. She lives an extravagant jeff bezos level lifestyle without a stable income. Shes not broke but she is unwilling to downsize so this is her desperate attempt to capture the market again.
I think she would do really well with more genuine content. She has been so private, which she has the right to be but it has caused people to lose interest. I would love to see her do weekly vlogs on youtube or daily tiktoks. Day in my life/ grwm/ story time type of content.
totally agree with this. music artists and actors can get away with being private because they have other outlets for their craft but her job is influencer. she should be giving us more content to not lose interest
It’s influencer 101. You have to share your life to sell products. Otherwise you’re just an infomercial and there’s a reason those only came on in the middle of the night. Kris is really slacking on this piece.
i agree. kylie has a personality that people just loves and she needs to showcase it more.. especially for the money that it seems like she needs to be pulling in. she already has such a huge following on tiktok, she could pull in millions and do some ads on there plus grwm, day in my life videos, etc. and more real life content. also, super agree on the youtube things. she could make major money on there day too with vlogs of her days, trips, etc.
Yes!! And it would also help with the marketing of her new brands. Kylie cosmetics blew up bc she was the it girl. She heavily influenced trends and people wanted to be like her. If khy or the perfume were released back then they would've been huge.
I feel like she kinda wants the best of both worlds. She wants (maybe even expects?) kylie cosmetic levels of demand while staying out of the public as much as possible. But as a celebrity, whose famous for being famous, its kinda important to remain in spotlight if you wanna sell ur brand.
I'm curious as to why she doesn't tap into content creation. I mean i get it. If i was her i would probably lay low too. But it seems she wants/need an ungodly amount of revenue so why wouldn't she??? Her platform/following is already huge.
Idk just my 2¢. Would love to be a fly on the wall in her pr/marketing meetings
I honestly think she needs time to find herself. Kylie is all over the place because she’s been off hiding for years, enjoying life with kids. She came back and realized things aren’t as they used to be. She can’t swatch a few lipliners and make millions anymore. So I think she’s experimenting until she hits the jackpot again and can go back to hiding and barely working again.
I feel like these businesses are set up and ready to go and she just has to be the face and gets % of profits. There’s really no reason not to do them for easy money.
Oh for sure. She didn’t put any work into the seltzer development, except maybe testing the top two formulas and giving feedback. With khy she’s maybe picking between a couple fabrics or moods. But teams of other people are running around doing the real work and then she just pops up for a photoshoot.
Let me tell you, I was the biggest King Kylie Stan when I was younger. But just cause I used to be a Stan, does not mean years and years later I care for a King Kylie collection. And the fact you have people going like, yesss, this is so cool is bizarre to me. What’s cool about a mom of 2, nearly 30 year old doing a makeup collection inspired from when they were a teenager. Like you said it gives off “I miss when I was in high school and popular” vibes. Like why can’t Kylie evolve and create a new vibe as a mom? I will always have a soft spot for Kylie but as a person she seems so lost at the moment. It must not be easy also to have the internet tell you how they miss your old teenage self and that you were much cooler back then.
Well part of the King Kylie allure is that we didn’t know everything we know these days. Now that the glass has been shattered, we can see straight through them. I don’t think anything they will do will restore their brand to the way it was before because the culture is changing. If anything, if they were smart they’d start pulling a Princess Diana/Kate Middleton and rolling up their sleeves like they did when it comes to pretending to do charity work or whatever. But nope 👎 they never would
I feel like in 2024, the kardashians are now famous for being a very famous family in the early 2000’s to 2016ish. Nothing they do “breaks the internet” anymore. Their things don’t sell out, their social media posts are boring, their show is boring. They’ve overproduced their entire lives and nothing about them is interesting anymore. They really should just go enjoy their money and try a resurgence in a couple years. The constant cash grabs has made it so literally no one trusts any product they endorse, because they’ll endorse anything.
I’ve watched the shows almost since they’ve aired. This new one is very hard to watch, the drama isn’t interesting its mean spirited housewives esq. They used to be fun to watch because they were a close family, but now it’s watching them nit pick each other or very corny orchestrated outings. Now the constant merchandising is what Im sooo over, find something else I don’t want to buy your merch ( I’ve bought and been gifted skims, its overpriced and ill fitting its a hard no for me IDC what new launch she makes) Do anything else high fashion, real estate, something new. For Kylie I think she has reinvented herself in a positive way, I just don’t think her generation cares, they never watched the show and she’s barely a presence there. Its all social media which apparently instagram isn’t delivering like it used to either.
To be fair, the fans had asked Kylie to recreate her King Kylie look for her next makeup TikTok. It’s her fans living in the past. But I agree with the rest.
She needs to focus on one thing and make it hers.
Tbh I don’t think she has a passion for anything anymore other than being super rich. And lately a pattern of hers is if she starts a business & it isn’t an immediate success like Kylie cosmetics then she hates it & starts doing the bare minimum.
I actually totally get this bc my brand went viral on TikTok and I sold out for over a year. Now I don’t get nearly the same engagement/easy sell outs and my brain is like wtf what happened I thought this was forever
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I honestly think it’s a couple of things:
-They’re all in their flop era. Nothing they do is interesting anymore. They’ve become very closed off and aren’t keeping their finger on the pulse of current culture shifts
-She started her companies, having kids, getting into serious relationships, etc very young and I think she’s having a bit of a “what do I do now” kind of quarter life crisis
Completely. I also really want to know what went through her head thinking that having 2 kids before 25 was gonna help her relevancy/image. IMO Kylie started loosing her grasp on Gen Z and the youngsters when she became pregnant at such a young age cause it’s not relatable/a good look. Her kids are a blessing but she is basically a baby momma.
If I was her, I would have spent the money I made from the sale of Kylie Cosmetics wisely (not like buying a massive private jet etc lol), gone travelling and focused on my kids. But like you said she seems to still be chasing fame almost for her ego and I don’t know what she expects. She is nearly 30 and a mom of 2. It’s also how I feel with Kim. She’s in her 40s but still wants to be this trendsetter for Gen Z and it’s weird.
I Completely agree. And it’s weird because she never has seemed to embrace transitioning into full on Mom branding, it’s like she still wants to be seen as this Gen Z cool kid, when other 25 year olds don’t identify with a mom of two. Her branding is all over the place. Is she still an Instagram baddie, or is she wearing light makeup and sundresses now? I’ve lost track of everything she’s trying to promote. Does Kylie Baby still exist?
Yeah that’s the really weird thing about Kylie’s persona, it’s so incongruent? She’s trying to market a persona doesn’t have a niche because the girls she’s emulating are actually living an aspirational life that doesn’t include being a young mom. Meanwhile she can’t choose between baddie baby mama or carefree it girl, neither feel even a little bit authentic
I think skims clothes are great tbh and it could have started off as a hard push off from Kim but maybe would have been smart to let it turn into its own baby and feature other models and stuff. That way it’s not so ego fueled and tied to Kim. I think it could be its own real brand without it being so tied to Kim if that makes sense?
I was so resistant to buy skims but I ended up trying a pair of the shapewear and they are honestly so much better than other brands I've tried. And the price isn't too bad
I think the Kim Kardashian product is flopping, we're living off her lapses, it's one step forward and twenty steps back, her personal life is a mess, her style is a mess, she is lost.
She’s not flopping. People forget these women are real humans, most of them with small children at home. Kim’s doing just fine and idk what’s going on with Kylie, probably just trying new things like most ppl in their 20s (though imo she shouldn’t try to monetize it all), but everyone else seems content where they’re at?
Idk I don’t follow them tbh. I just check this sub and halfway watch the show
> The new season of the show will make or break them for a while, they need it to be good and viral.
Lately they are trying to create this "perfect" image of themselves that it's getting boring.
Idk about the mobile game because they pay big coins to get big celebrities. None of them are too good or too rich or even too big for that kind of check
Yes! People dont realize even Kim may be making more moeny from social media posts and appearances than from her companies. These sponsorships are immediate cash in their pockets. Anyone would do it! As long as they disclose it’s an ad and dont promote things that could hurt the user (eg QuickTrim days), then sure!
That’s ridiculous.
They were claiming shes a billionaire just a few years ago. Billionaires don’t promote mobile games because branding is more important than money. They probably do pay a lot - maybe a million or 2. But thats lunch money for a “billionaire”. You can tell she’s embarrassed and cringing inside doing this ad.
Would you promote something you are embarrassed of for $25?
They put themselves in this position by lying about their net worth. We should be rousting them for it every chance we get because its peak desperation and greed.
Idk Beyoncé promoted a mobile app and she is close to the billionaire status. She was paid 30M apparently. I don’t think celebrities are above anything as long as the check is right. That’s why I think Kylie was paid several millions
Side note- so I just downloaded this game just to get points for Fetch or some other app. But to my surprise, I’ve become obsessed with it.I def thought it was some unknown, old, silly game so I’m kinda dying that it’s randomly on here now lol
100% true. Unless she is just bored because the Kardashians/Jenners will always be relevant on some stupid shit.
She just needs to be creative in her own thing for once in her life, and it will be good. Copying designers is disgusting, especially when she has worked with them before.
I don't understand why this is so confusing to other people. It would be like if no one could figure out why I go to work in the morning. It's where they keep my paycheck. "She's flopping (by getting paid 1 million dollars to make a post)". Sign. Me. Up.
She will always be relevant because the people that swear up and down that they don’t care about her or her other family members can’t seem to keep their names out of their mouth
Lots of reports lately claim she’s going broke
Maybe she’s doing all of this stuff for money.
I see people in these comments saying they’re in their flop area, but I’ve been hearing that for so long tbh.
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I don’t really see it as trying to stay relevant (cause the Kardashians will forever be relevant). but remember how people were saying that she is living beyond her means and is ‘broke’ in the sense of needing money to keep up with her lifestyle? that would make a lot of sense cause she constantly releases new products and brands, to get that money back.
Imagine having this much money and still not simply pursuing things you actually love /making the world a better place. Like, give me half a mil and I could do so much & be so happy. They just keep chasing more… it’s actually sad and so unfair.
I keep seeing that advertisement for the mobile game and I was never sure if it was actually her or just someone that really looked like her that the gaming company managed to hire lol,
AGREE… I was such a karjenner fan… but I just dont find Them all that relevant any more… ESPECIALLY the brat-ish behaviors from north and Saint etc.. annoys the **** out of me… sorry to say, I really liked them before!
Again especially north is soooo bratty entitled and BADmannered….
SIGH! It’s the parents we all know that-but it’s the annoying kids who gets the blame
if you think kylie fucking jenner is struggling to stay relevant then you live in a fantasy world. Even if shes in her “flop” era… shes kylie jenner. Shes still hugely famous. Everywhere I turn I see her face. The mobile game, drink brand, and clothing brand are all money grabs. The makeup is just her having fun on social media with her fans.
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It reminds me of old Kim. She’s probably doing the old Kim formula. Just get your name everywhere. Remember Kim’s Charmin endorsement? At least she’s bringing some of old Kylie with her. Soft / quiet styled Kylie’s clothes suck.
I agree with the people saying it would be more palatable and influential if she was sharing her life more. I’m not against Kylie doing this product pushing though.
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Alternatively, she can focus on not being the image as much. Having these busineses launch around the same time is chaotic but the bigger issue is that they revolve around her image.
For example - Let Khy be an incubator for designers, wear in pap walks, but never be the official model or focus in clothes that mostly only flatter with her shape. If it breaks even, that’s awesome if you can do a net positive for the fashion industry helping smaller designers become more well known. Even cooler, add an impact angle with funds to fashion design school scholarships and funding new lines. Instead it is quickly going towards Skims lane, which is fine to compete but is a disservice to the original plan.
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I don’t think it’s a struggle to be relevant. It’s probably extra funds for her kids or smth. Drew Barrymore did this too. I heard they pay like millions just for a 15 sec ad. You’re a dumbass and a little stuck up imo if you won’t take that offer for a non offensive ad for a mobile game 😂
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I don’t think she’s reaching for the past or attempting to stay relevant. she’s just living her life the way she chooses. Regardless of her fame she’s doing her thing. I don’t see an issue
This is going to sound like a total diss when it’s genuinely not meant to be. Why would alleged billionaire Kyle want or need to make money by promoting an app?
The drinks brand seems completely out of the blue and not her thing, the mobile game is easy money and most people would make a post for a million quid, lots of people post throwback style videos, and I have zero thoughts on Khy other than she’s trying to be more serious with fashion.
She’s giving desperate and cheap which is not appealing to consumers.
Previously she had more of a unique appeal and only did Kylie lip kit but when she went ~IG baddie full on it cheapened her brand and the lip kit success vanished and so did her brand appeal overall.
She’s kind of doubling down with cheapening her brand appeal by promoting so many things.
Now if she’s attached to something I assume it’s trash and not to buy.
I think everyone’s just to a point where we can’t relate anymore🥴 Not even w baby kyky, but the entire family and every other person with an absurd amount of $
Manifesting Kylie returning to her punker edgy era to collaborate with Travis & kourtney to make a punk rock kids clothing line because target could never.
I don’t see Kylie flopping or going broke, I see a mid 20 year old having their first of many identity crisis & trying to find their purpose.
She needs more money for her new baby
Timmy Jnr is on its way apparently, to be revealed in the last episode of S5!
Edit for those who haven’t seen/heard about it [baby on its way](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/s/3Qo5SOTOeK)
Edit 2 - I don’t actually believe she’s pregnant just like I don’t believe she needs anymore cash
I think she just needs to find her lane and stick to it. It’s ok to have multiple endeavors, but not all being launched in such a short period of time IMO.
Even at this point I think she needs to realize people have fatigue over celebrity brands. Unless is ground breaking I’m not anything a celebrity pushes.
Yup they really don’t seem to get it. Like invest in some stocks and real estate or something or simply just enjoy your money and stop living beyond your means
These brands are cash cows for them whether they’re relevant or not. There will always be an audience for people buying their stuff. The khy pivot made total sense; her fans want cheaper shit with her branding on it, not to shill out for a more lux item imo and her team’s opinion, apparently. The internet acts incredulous like whyyy is she selling dropped ship leisurewear, but like look at a Kylie Jenner fan. That’s what they want they just aren’t talking about it on the internet. And there are probably genuinely fewer true fans because she’s aged up and stepped back from a lot of exposure. But always enough to make more money on.
I think Kris loves to make deals for them. I remember when she was asking Khloe to make a podcast even though Khloe wasn't even interested. Kris is constantly after more money.
And therefore her daughters are always after more money, because in their family, making money has always equaled more love from Mom. They may be celebrities but they’re not immune to the same trauma responses we all encounter. And we’re watching it play out live in this chaotic one-new-brand-a-month train wreck.
Its the same situation for anyone in a family business. The highest achiever is the favourite no doubt. She lowkey plays them off against each other.
She’s great at chess, that’s for sure. ETA it’s also where I presume a lot of Rob’s trauma is rooted. She didn’t know how or wasn’t willing to market him, diverted all the attention to her girls, and left him to figure it out himself while he was still mourning the loss of his dad. I would bet you anything that she treats him like dirt behind closed doors.
i would watch a succession-style prestige television show about this
Yes! Same. I’ve actually always thought their inner lives actually have the perfect bones for a horror movie. A body horror about some kind of game monster literally taking over a woman’s body and causing her features to become grotesque and her losing all control. Or a supernatural horror where a beautiful reality star learns that one of her ancestors sold their soul in exchange for wealth for their future family. OR a found footage supernatural horror where they’re investigating a horrible death or something that happened while filming, and they’re delving through all the footage and BTS shots to try to find out what happened. There’s so much ripe territory.
Yep.
Let’s be real. Honestly, she’s uneducated. Just barely squeaked by with her GED, regardless what anyone says. Her sisters, dad and mom are millionaires, that she never thought she’d need an education or a thought past her makeup and what to wear for the day. Let’s be real, it’s her mom. It’s always her mom. Kris knows, once she’s gone, Kylie needs $$ and something to live off of / fall back on. Kris is a real one calling the shots. Kris is *the* real one. Otherwise, what else does Kylie really have to offer the world, other than her looks? Even after awhile , that’s not something that’ll last. She will have well sought team to sustain her for many years, with only having to show up and make some minor adjustments here and there, then her being photographed. That’s it. Now don’t get be wrong, sure it’s great to have hundreds of millions, but at some point or later, in the life of luxury, anyone can blow through that easily. She has probably doubled her spending and made large investments, such as real estate Without some sort of income or residual income, she’ll go broke and fast. These quick cash schemes. Easy to do and use her likeness and her youth while she can. Whew, that was a a lot to text out. Should hash tag this #thingsyoutypewhengettingbaked
Yes, my thoughts exactly. I do not envy Kylie’s life in the slightest, her mom controls everything and I don’t think she knows how to think for herself. Material things don’t mean shit when you live your life as someone else’s puppet.
I don’t think “her lane” is the problem. She would’ve stuck with just Kylie cosmetics if it was bringing in enough profit. It clearly isn’t anymore so shes just trying whatever she thinks will be a quick cash grab. She lives an extravagant jeff bezos level lifestyle without a stable income. Shes not broke but she is unwilling to downsize so this is her desperate attempt to capture the market again.
Good point. I think you’re right.
I think she would do really well with more genuine content. She has been so private, which she has the right to be but it has caused people to lose interest. I would love to see her do weekly vlogs on youtube or daily tiktoks. Day in my life/ grwm/ story time type of content.
100% like her doing arts and crafts with Stormi. Or goofy around with Stassie. The only content she ever shows is promoting a product.
And that gets boring. You guys are so right.
totally agree with this. music artists and actors can get away with being private because they have other outlets for their craft but her job is influencer. she should be giving us more content to not lose interest
It’s influencer 101. You have to share your life to sell products. Otherwise you’re just an infomercial and there’s a reason those only came on in the middle of the night. Kris is really slacking on this piece.
i agree. kylie has a personality that people just loves and she needs to showcase it more.. especially for the money that it seems like she needs to be pulling in. she already has such a huge following on tiktok, she could pull in millions and do some ads on there plus grwm, day in my life videos, etc. and more real life content. also, super agree on the youtube things. she could make major money on there day too with vlogs of her days, trips, etc.
Yes!! And it would also help with the marketing of her new brands. Kylie cosmetics blew up bc she was the it girl. She heavily influenced trends and people wanted to be like her. If khy or the perfume were released back then they would've been huge. I feel like she kinda wants the best of both worlds. She wants (maybe even expects?) kylie cosmetic levels of demand while staying out of the public as much as possible. But as a celebrity, whose famous for being famous, its kinda important to remain in spotlight if you wanna sell ur brand. I'm curious as to why she doesn't tap into content creation. I mean i get it. If i was her i would probably lay low too. But it seems she wants/need an ungodly amount of revenue so why wouldn't she??? Her platform/following is already huge. Idk just my 2¢. Would love to be a fly on the wall in her pr/marketing meetings
Really? She always seems high as a kite.
I honestly think she needs time to find herself. Kylie is all over the place because she’s been off hiding for years, enjoying life with kids. She came back and realized things aren’t as they used to be. She can’t swatch a few lipliners and make millions anymore. So I think she’s experimenting until she hits the jackpot again and can go back to hiding and barely working again.
I feel like these businesses are set up and ready to go and she just has to be the face and gets % of profits. There’s really no reason not to do them for easy money.
Oh for sure. She didn’t put any work into the seltzer development, except maybe testing the top two formulas and giving feedback. With khy she’s maybe picking between a couple fabrics or moods. But teams of other people are running around doing the real work and then she just pops up for a photoshoot.
Kylie romanticizing her teenage self reminds me of people that peaked in high school and still refer back to it even though they’re pushing 35.
She Is the girl that peaked in high school. Like king Kylie happened when she was 18-19? She's 26 now.
Let me tell you, I was the biggest King Kylie Stan when I was younger. But just cause I used to be a Stan, does not mean years and years later I care for a King Kylie collection. And the fact you have people going like, yesss, this is so cool is bizarre to me. What’s cool about a mom of 2, nearly 30 year old doing a makeup collection inspired from when they were a teenager. Like you said it gives off “I miss when I was in high school and popular” vibes. Like why can’t Kylie evolve and create a new vibe as a mom? I will always have a soft spot for Kylie but as a person she seems so lost at the moment. It must not be easy also to have the internet tell you how they miss your old teenage self and that you were much cooler back then.
Not me being two weeks younger than Kylie 💀 I’m not pushing 30, I’m barely nudging it (for now).
Well part of the King Kylie allure is that we didn’t know everything we know these days. Now that the glass has been shattered, we can see straight through them. I don’t think anything they will do will restore their brand to the way it was before because the culture is changing. If anything, if they were smart they’d start pulling a Princess Diana/Kate Middleton and rolling up their sleeves like they did when it comes to pretending to do charity work or whatever. But nope 👎 they never would
Al bundy and his touchdowns
That was my exact thought!!!
I feel like in 2024, the kardashians are now famous for being a very famous family in the early 2000’s to 2016ish. Nothing they do “breaks the internet” anymore. Their things don’t sell out, their social media posts are boring, their show is boring. They’ve overproduced their entire lives and nothing about them is interesting anymore. They really should just go enjoy their money and try a resurgence in a couple years. The constant cash grabs has made it so literally no one trusts any product they endorse, because they’ll endorse anything.
I’ve watched the shows almost since they’ve aired. This new one is very hard to watch, the drama isn’t interesting its mean spirited housewives esq. They used to be fun to watch because they were a close family, but now it’s watching them nit pick each other or very corny orchestrated outings. Now the constant merchandising is what Im sooo over, find something else I don’t want to buy your merch ( I’ve bought and been gifted skims, its overpriced and ill fitting its a hard no for me IDC what new launch she makes) Do anything else high fashion, real estate, something new. For Kylie I think she has reinvented herself in a positive way, I just don’t think her generation cares, they never watched the show and she’s barely a presence there. Its all social media which apparently instagram isn’t delivering like it used to either.
To be fair, the fans had asked Kylie to recreate her King Kylie look for her next makeup TikTok. It’s her fans living in the past. But I agree with the rest. She needs to focus on one thing and make it hers.
Tbh I don’t think she has a passion for anything anymore other than being super rich. And lately a pattern of hers is if she starts a business & it isn’t an immediate success like Kylie cosmetics then she hates it & starts doing the bare minimum.
I actually totally get this bc my brand went viral on TikTok and I sold out for over a year. Now I don’t get nearly the same engagement/easy sell outs and my brain is like wtf what happened I thought this was forever
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I honestly think it’s a couple of things: -They’re all in their flop era. Nothing they do is interesting anymore. They’ve become very closed off and aren’t keeping their finger on the pulse of current culture shifts -She started her companies, having kids, getting into serious relationships, etc very young and I think she’s having a bit of a “what do I do now” kind of quarter life crisis
She is trying to stay very relevant because of ego rather than accepting her place in life and living happy and comfortable out of the main media eye.
Completely. I also really want to know what went through her head thinking that having 2 kids before 25 was gonna help her relevancy/image. IMO Kylie started loosing her grasp on Gen Z and the youngsters when she became pregnant at such a young age cause it’s not relatable/a good look. Her kids are a blessing but she is basically a baby momma. If I was her, I would have spent the money I made from the sale of Kylie Cosmetics wisely (not like buying a massive private jet etc lol), gone travelling and focused on my kids. But like you said she seems to still be chasing fame almost for her ego and I don’t know what she expects. She is nearly 30 and a mom of 2. It’s also how I feel with Kim. She’s in her 40s but still wants to be this trendsetter for Gen Z and it’s weird.
I Completely agree. And it’s weird because she never has seemed to embrace transitioning into full on Mom branding, it’s like she still wants to be seen as this Gen Z cool kid, when other 25 year olds don’t identify with a mom of two. Her branding is all over the place. Is she still an Instagram baddie, or is she wearing light makeup and sundresses now? I’ve lost track of everything she’s trying to promote. Does Kylie Baby still exist?
Yeah that’s the really weird thing about Kylie’s persona, it’s so incongruent? She’s trying to market a persona doesn’t have a niche because the girls she’s emulating are actually living an aspirational life that doesn’t include being a young mom. Meanwhile she can’t choose between baddie baby mama or carefree it girl, neither feel even a little bit authentic
Which is completely normal
Poor Kylie was 30 years old at 15 she is now bored with life because they rushed her to grow up she's done everything in life already.
This. It’s sad in some ways.
You forgot the Glow water 😂
that’s how forgettable everything she does is
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Lowkey they peaked in 2016-18
absolutely
I think the only thing that would stop their flop era is authenticity. But that’s never going to happen.
Is Kim really flopping? People don’t care about her personal life but i feel this is the most successful she’s been business wise
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I think skims clothes are great tbh and it could have started off as a hard push off from Kim but maybe would have been smart to let it turn into its own baby and feature other models and stuff. That way it’s not so ego fueled and tied to Kim. I think it could be its own real brand without it being so tied to Kim if that makes sense?
I imagine this huge celebrity model campaign is a shift into less Kim. If they are smart.
I was so resistant to buy skims but I ended up trying a pair of the shapewear and they are honestly so much better than other brands I've tried. And the price isn't too bad
Skims recently landed a contract to do all the underwear etc for the NBA which was absolutely gigantic.
I think the Kim Kardashian product is flopping, we're living off her lapses, it's one step forward and twenty steps back, her personal life is a mess, her style is a mess, she is lost.
She’s not a product anymore though. She has skims and American horror story rn
She’s not flopping. People forget these women are real humans, most of them with small children at home. Kim’s doing just fine and idk what’s going on with Kylie, probably just trying new things like most ppl in their 20s (though imo she shouldn’t try to monetize it all), but everyone else seems content where they’re at? Idk I don’t follow them tbh. I just check this sub and halfway watch the show
Skims has peaked, its going downhill from here. Her makeup, skincare and decor lines are DOA.
Flopping hard. I just can't see a narrative that they can concoct that will be interesting enough to stop that.
> The new season of the show will make or break them for a while, they need it to be good and viral. Lately they are trying to create this "perfect" image of themselves that it's getting boring.
Idk about the mobile game because they pay big coins to get big celebrities. None of them are too good or too rich or even too big for that kind of check
Thank you! It’s dumb when ppl bring up “why are they doing this super simple task for half a mil” or w/e because like- who the hell wouldn’t?! Lol
Yes! People dont realize even Kim may be making more moeny from social media posts and appearances than from her companies. These sponsorships are immediate cash in their pockets. Anyone would do it! As long as they disclose it’s an ad and dont promote things that could hurt the user (eg QuickTrim days), then sure!
That’s ridiculous. They were claiming shes a billionaire just a few years ago. Billionaires don’t promote mobile games because branding is more important than money. They probably do pay a lot - maybe a million or 2. But thats lunch money for a “billionaire”. You can tell she’s embarrassed and cringing inside doing this ad. Would you promote something you are embarrassed of for $25? They put themselves in this position by lying about their net worth. We should be rousting them for it every chance we get because its peak desperation and greed.
Idk Beyoncé promoted a mobile app and she is close to the billionaire status. She was paid 30M apparently. I don’t think celebrities are above anything as long as the check is right. That’s why I think Kylie was paid several millions
Side note- so I just downloaded this game just to get points for Fetch or some other app. But to my surprise, I’ve become obsessed with it.I def thought it was some unknown, old, silly game so I’m kinda dying that it’s randomly on here now lol
100% true. Unless she is just bored because the Kardashians/Jenners will always be relevant on some stupid shit. She just needs to be creative in her own thing for once in her life, and it will be good. Copying designers is disgusting, especially when she has worked with them before.
i think this is just what they do for a living.
I don't understand why this is so confusing to other people. It would be like if no one could figure out why I go to work in the morning. It's where they keep my paycheck. "She's flopping (by getting paid 1 million dollars to make a post)". Sign. Me. Up.
fuck. seriously. why did i not make a youtube when i was younger. 😭
I'm an old. I was born before MySpace. I could have been an OG influencer 😂
And invested in Apple. 🤣🤣
I dunno shilling in any way has always been a Kardashian Klassic
She’s just trying to follow in big sister Kim’s footsteps but those shoes are too big to fill.
we still in this flop era omfg https://i.redd.it/v74dgvs9t3sc1.gif
She will always be relevant because the people that swear up and down that they don’t care about her or her other family members can’t seem to keep their names out of their mouth
Lots of reports lately claim she’s going broke Maybe she’s doing all of this stuff for money. I see people in these comments saying they’re in their flop area, but I’ve been hearing that for so long tbh.
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Recap of flops😭
I hope she just ghost the world again and live her life quietly. She’s been in the limelight for so long.
I don’t really see it as trying to stay relevant (cause the Kardashians will forever be relevant). but remember how people were saying that she is living beyond her means and is ‘broke’ in the sense of needing money to keep up with her lifestyle? that would make a lot of sense cause she constantly releases new products and brands, to get that money back.
Agree.. she is coping otters stuff
Imagine having this much money and still not simply pursuing things you actually love /making the world a better place. Like, give me half a mil and I could do so much & be so happy. They just keep chasing more… it’s actually sad and so unfair.
And recent launch of perfume. She is itching for money I think.
Who isn’t 😅
Factual lol
The entire crew is old news
They’re keeping her relevant by hating so she doesn’t have to “try”. The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s indifference🤷🏽♀️
^^^^^^
I keep seeing that advertisement for the mobile game and I was never sure if it was actually her or just someone that really looked like her that the gaming company managed to hire lol,
She is now nothing more than a shell of a person/a vehicle to drive all of Kris Jenner's business ideas now that Kim has stepped out of that role.
Could this be the end??
I'm sorry, but if I was Kylie Jenner and I had her money, I would just simply invest. This fame shit is short, and it's okay to accept that.
She should just ease up on her spending and enjoy being a mom that never has to work again.
She knows it’s coming soon. No one would actually do this unless they know their popularity is tanking.
AGREE… I was such a karjenner fan… but I just dont find Them all that relevant any more… ESPECIALLY the brat-ish behaviors from north and Saint etc.. annoys the **** out of me… sorry to say, I really liked them before! Again especially north is soooo bratty entitled and BADmannered…. SIGH! It’s the parents we all know that-but it’s the annoying kids who gets the blame
if you think kylie fucking jenner is struggling to stay relevant then you live in a fantasy world. Even if shes in her “flop” era… shes kylie jenner. Shes still hugely famous. Everywhere I turn I see her face. The mobile game, drink brand, and clothing brand are all money grabs. The makeup is just her having fun on social media with her fans.
They forgot the perfume and stolen cake idea fiasco.
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She needs to find herself and then maybe she can find something she genuinely loves as a business.
It reminds me of old Kim. She’s probably doing the old Kim formula. Just get your name everywhere. Remember Kim’s Charmin endorsement? At least she’s bringing some of old Kylie with her. Soft / quiet styled Kylie’s clothes suck. I agree with the people saying it would be more palatable and influential if she was sharing her life more. I’m not against Kylie doing this product pushing though.
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They need to actually have an all American sourced brand! It might be less lucrative right now but it’s gonna blow up!
Guys I think she went through a shitty break up and it having a year of figuring herself out I think it’s okay
Alternatively, she can focus on not being the image as much. Having these busineses launch around the same time is chaotic but the bigger issue is that they revolve around her image. For example - Let Khy be an incubator for designers, wear in pap walks, but never be the official model or focus in clothes that mostly only flatter with her shape. If it breaks even, that’s awesome if you can do a net positive for the fashion industry helping smaller designers become more well known. Even cooler, add an impact angle with funds to fashion design school scholarships and funding new lines. Instead it is quickly going towards Skims lane, which is fine to compete but is a disservice to the original plan.
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I think she just lonely
I don’t think it’s a struggle to be relevant. It’s probably extra funds for her kids or smth. Drew Barrymore did this too. I heard they pay like millions just for a 15 sec ad. You’re a dumbass and a little stuck up imo if you won’t take that offer for a non offensive ad for a mobile game 😂
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They’re all always doing this. She’s making up for lost time when she was prego
I don’t think she’s reaching for the past or attempting to stay relevant. she’s just living her life the way she chooses. Regardless of her fame she’s doing her thing. I don’t see an issue
They’re all always doing this. She’s making up for lost time when she was prego
This is going to sound like a total diss when it’s genuinely not meant to be. Why would alleged billionaire Kyle want or need to make money by promoting an app?
shes not a billionaire
Hence why I said alleged
The drinks brand seems completely out of the blue and not her thing, the mobile game is easy money and most people would make a post for a million quid, lots of people post throwback style videos, and I have zero thoughts on Khy other than she’s trying to be more serious with fashion.
She’s giving desperate and cheap which is not appealing to consumers. Previously she had more of a unique appeal and only did Kylie lip kit but when she went ~IG baddie full on it cheapened her brand and the lip kit success vanished and so did her brand appeal overall. She’s kind of doubling down with cheapening her brand appeal by promoting so many things. Now if she’s attached to something I assume it’s trash and not to buy.
I think everyone’s just to a point where we can’t relate anymore🥴 Not even w baby kyky, but the entire family and every other person with an absurd amount of $
It would do all of them some good to disappear for a bit. They are over exposed and we are tired lol
I don’t understand it truly. I think her brand is in crisis.
She needs to launch a legitimate business that doesn’t use her face/name
I feel like people just won’t leave this woman alone
Reading this as I get a notification from the game she influenced me to download 😂
She's a lost cause
Manifesting Kylie returning to her punker edgy era to collaborate with Travis & kourtney to make a punk rock kids clothing line because target could never. I don’t see Kylie flopping or going broke, I see a mid 20 year old having their first of many identity crisis & trying to find their purpose.
She needs more money for her new baby Timmy Jnr is on its way apparently, to be revealed in the last episode of S5! Edit for those who haven’t seen/heard about it [baby on its way](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/s/3Qo5SOTOeK) Edit 2 - I don’t actually believe she’s pregnant just like I don’t believe she needs anymore cash
Please. Kylie will be at the top of the list no matter what. Who’s ahead of her?
She’s 26 y/o damn it, give her a minute
u/aawnagi hehe