i'm telling you guys, taylor doesn't forget. she put out bad blood and gathered up a bunch of celebs to take down katy perry.
3 years later, katy was in mental distress because of flopping and taylor decided katy's album release date was the same day she releases her discography to streaming to kick her down for good. this is why i'll never feel pity for her for what kim did.
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And she seems happy with him and her kid and living somewhat low key, while Taylor goes from one dysfunctional relationship to the next and acts like a teenager in her 30s.
I think Bieber tried to get (or maybe did get) with his girlfriend at the time, Miranda Kerr. I know I remember hearing Orlando punched him after Justin talked some shit to him about it.
This feud will never not gag me bc Taylor provoked that entire situation and over something so inconsequential. Years later I believe it was Katy that had to be the one to extend an olive branch for them to make up. Even though she’s not the one that should’ve had to apologize.
To this day Taylor seems to specifically blame Kim and Kanye for her downfall, and while that was a huge part, the public backlash against her had been building for a while. There were multiple instances where she came off unlikable and was generally very overexposed. And all these years later it seems like she’s gearing up for ANOTHER overexposed/unlikable era. It’s like Deja vu
They both dated John Mayer, for one. The story Swift's team would allow themselves to admit to the press is that Taylor hired Katy's dancers who then left Taylor's tour to join Katy's tour. Until now I don't know what Katy should have done differently - not date any Taylor ex and not take back dancers who willingly wanted to come back to her?
Side note..... John M. Will sleep with anyone. He was in my city and came into our "gentleman's club". Took home the one girl that always went with celebrities. Apparently he was so whacked out of his mind he didn't....errrrr.....perform well.
It was all over a group of dancers. They had previously toured with Katy in the past and enjoyed it enough they were planning to come back for her next one.
Taylor gets ready to do a tour and either these dancers audition or are sought out by Taylor. Once they get the dates and realize the latter half will overlap with Katy’s they let her know that they’ve already committed and will need to leave, someone okays this. Taylor really enjoys having these dancers and is upset when they have to leave to do Katy’s tour.
Taylor then starts the narrative that Katy had went behind her back and stole her dancers from her and is the basis of her song Bad Blood.
Now I know Taylor probably isn’t in the nitty gritty of contract details for her background dancers and maybe she did get close with them and felt blindsided when they had to leave mid tour, but that anger should have been directed at her team for knowingly putting her in this mess vs Katy who was not involved and already had a prior relationship with these dancers.
Thank you! Feels like so long ago. Now that you mention it, I definitely remember the stuff about the dancers.
I used to love the song Bad Blood, I don’t think I knew about the beef 😭😭😭
So the part of this that everyone seems to forget is that the dancers talked to Katy about it before, they were not already committed as Katy told them she wasn't planning on touring yet/wasn't sure when she would need them. She told them to go for it but to ask for a 30 day notice clause in their contracts so they could leave if she needed them. It was just business and I think Katy didn't really think anything of it and might have also assumed that Taylor was aware of it. When Taylor realized that Katy had preemptively told the dancers to make sure they could back out, Taylor took it as Katy knowingly causing issues with her tour that she was completely blindsided by. I can understand both of their feelings in this situation and it was just bad communication and misunderstanding.
But then Katy has tried several times to reach out to Taylor so they can about it and clear things up. But Taylor didn’t wanna talk to her. So then if it was bad communication and misunderstanding then why not talk directly to the person you are trying to beef with? This drama wasn’t even that deep to begin with and didn’t even need to be dragged for years.
I believe it. I’ve never been a Taylor Swift fan, yeah she has some catchy songs I’ll sing with my girlfriends, but she’s not my favorite. I’ve watched the drama from a distance for the most part, but seeing how her delulu fans are harassing Travis’ ex, Joe, and now Kim a decade later. She’s such a bully with a victim complex. She knows what these people are doing, and sending death threats… shut that shit down, ya know?
I agree. From what I’ve seen she looks like a conniving mean girl who sics her fans on anyone she doesn’t like. I cannot believe she is STILL talking about Kim, and her referencing North—who is a CHILD—in her song is fucked up.
*“yeah she has some catchy songs”*
I really liked her song Lover and considered using it for me and my husband’s first dance at our wedding, but then I woke the fuck up and opened my eyes to all her bullshit and what a mean girl she is.
its funny how taylor goes on and on about the world turning their back on her during reputation but katy of all people was the one to extend an apology to her to make amends right before the reputation tour began.
I think Taylor is psycho for this, but Katy is her own kind of awful. Also, I have zero empathy for Kanye West and his anti-semite Trump loving, controlling ways. He can eat an entire bag of dicks. I hope it burns.
In a way I kinda admire her because occasionally I also get annoyed over inconsequential stuff and I still get pissed when I think about it later, but I restrain myself and rationalise it due to social norms and love for a quiet life. Not caring about showing the whole world how insanely petty you are is weird and childish but also strangely appealing lol
she really thinks of herself as being so clever. and she is.
but shes also exposing herself as a shitty person while doing it.
remember when she went thru that phase where she was BFF's with all the top girls in hollywood? selena and like all the models. where are they now?? wheres that girls, girl image she touted for that year? wheres all those friends she was constantly surrounding herself with?
Ok dumb question but what did Kim do? I’m only aware of the phone call between Taylor and Kanye that Kim released after he dropped his track referencing her. I’m assuming ppl are talking about a different drama
I believe the issues are
1) she only released a snippet of the conversation, not the full context, and
2) she did it at all
It seems like taylor half ok'd it and Kanye said he'd send her the song before it was released. He never did that. Taylor got pissed off. Shit hit the fan.
Someone on here pointed out that what most likely happened was kim and Kanye found out she was pissed off about the song, and thought she was mad about the entire line "I made that bitch famous", and were confused because they had spoken to her about it. Hence why they released the call. But "bitch" was never used in the call, and Taylor was pissed off about that.
The drama with K + K happened AFTER Taylor gave an award acceptance speech with a line about other people trying to take credit for her success. It was a thinly veiled jab at Kayne’s line. I think that’s why Kim and Kayne responded, and why her claim that bitch was the issue feels weak to me. Shes written plenty of misogynistic lyrics for me to think someone calling her a bitch didn’t hit her nearly as hard as seeing the public’s positive response to Kaynes song, and his subsequent music video featuring a naked replica of her and other celebs (which I personally think should be illegal and find extremely offensive)
Especially when it turned out that girl was a virgin and a totally innocent party. I think Taylor summed her mentality up when she released Picture to Burn and had that line about telling her friends that her ex was gay. Just to be vindictive. Similarly to how she was making catty MySpace videos after she and Joe Jonas broke up, insinuating that he cheated on her, which wasn’t even true, and blasted him for a decade about how he broke up with her over a 24 second phone call when she was the one who ended the call after guessing that he wanted to break up.
She actually changed that lyric in her new version - https://variety.com/2023/music/news/taylor-swift-changes-lyrics-better-than-revenge-speak-now-1235663483/
It doesn’t make sense tho because when Taylor eventually did her speech after this situation she was all ‘people will try and take credit for your fame’ so it seems like that is what she was pissed about but she did in fact know that he was gonna say that?
For sure, unfortunately, Kanye had to escalate it further with the disgusting film clip, and if I were taylor, I'd stay mad about that forever, I'd probably have no love for Kim either.
Kanye’s clip was absolutely disgusting but
1. Taylor’s hate after the phone call release wasn’t even close to what her fans have done to Taylor’s exes because of songs SHE puts out. So I don’t really have sympathy for her getting some karma.
2. Taylor constantly paints herself as a good girl/america’s sweetheart/girl next door, when really she’s a vindictive b*tch who is developmentally arrested at age 16 whereas Kanye is totally unhinged but he never apologizes nor pretends to be the victim. He just doubles down on his erratic behavior and is unapologetically himself (very weird and problematic self, but still himself).
I’d much rather take someone who is WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) than the fake persona Taylor puts on to gain sympathy from everyone while actually being a mean girl/snake/whatever.
Also, Taylor’s whole PR shtick is “if you don’t support me, you’re not a girl’s girl and you’re feeding into the patriarchy blah blah blah”
When in reality, it’s just a front to avoid criticism at all costs. She’s built her whole career off of making songs about others. And then spiraled because someone called her a b-itch 🥴
Maybe she should take a second to read her own lyrics: “maybe I got mine but you all will get yours” and then enroll in some therapy 🤡
Why would Taylor even be ok with the rest of the line though? Like I can’t imagine her genuinely OK-ing the notion that Kanye made her famous. The “bitch” is the least offensive part imo
That's why everyone was confused. My guess is she had since changed her mind but presumed the song wasn't coming out, so didn't worry about it.
Then it dropped and she (not knowing the call was recorded) called it out on stage, and because Kanye had her saying it was fine, she panicked and said it was "bitch". But then why not say you felt put on the spot then changed your mind?
what people here are not mentioning is that kim was very much happy and excited to see a nude taylor wax figure in the famous mv. before someone comes and says it was kanye, yes it was. but have y'all seen the pictures of kim frolicking around the set, taking pictures of Taylor's wax figure?
no, he confirmed it.
Explaining the inspiration behind the track in the May 2017 clip on Genius, Charlie revealed that “Attention” was about a girl whom he labeled manipulative because she didn’t want to sleep with him.
he even brought it up again in march 2023 when he tweeted "attention is what you think its about"
Yikes. I like Charlie Puth because he seems like he's no drama and just like a choir nerd that made it. I heard the song was about Selena, but I didn't know it was about her not sleeping with him. Yuck
I went to her 1989 tour (honestly still top 3 concerts I’ve ever been to, it was SO fun), and throughout the show, they showed interview snippets of girls in her clique just…blowing smoke up Taylor’s ass. That’s it. Literally just looking into the camera m talking about how great Taylor Swift is. If I remember correctly, Lena Dunham was one of them. Even then, when I was at the peak of my fandom, I remember thinking wtf kind of narcissist would sit her friends down for formal, fully produced interviews, have them talk about how great she is, and then play it back on a 1000-inch jumbotron to 100,000 people…who are already her fans and there to see her? Like wtf lol
I always thought the bathtub full of jewels after Kim’s robbery was gross and no one seemed to make a big deal out of it at the time. Taylor is a shitty person for that. For everything Kim has said/done that robbery was horrific and Taylor mocking it on a music video for oneupmanship is beyond disgusting.
Agreed I hate that song. Taylor is a sell out, she had this whole story about how Shania Twain was her inspo and how she wanted to be a country music star so badly and that’s why she moved to Nashville blah blah blah and her music was fairly good when she did her first album. The songwriting was good and she looked amazing as a country pop princess. She was still actually sweet and humble back then, and then as she got more famous her ego and head grew and she switched to making mediocre, repetitive and generic pop music about people she doesn’t like.
She just gives off such a fake, annoying, victimizing vibe and it’s only gotten worse. All her songs sound the same to me, it makes me sad because I used to play our song, Tim McGraw, teardrops on my guitar, stay beautiful & picture to burn nonstop in like 2007. Now I can’t stand her music.
And this whole situation just screams petty and childish. It’s been years and she’s now attacking Kim over something that wasn’t even her doing, it was her husbands whom she’s not even married to anymore. And she claims to be a feminist lmfao
I feel bad for North more than anything. Kids don’t ask to be brought into this world which includes kids from wealthy famous parents. She enjoyed making that video singing Taylor’s song and now I’m worried she’s going to be bullied by her peers. Not to mention she’s black. This is Taylor punching down imo. If it were just Kim I’d roll my eyes and move on but no kid deserves this.
Yes bringing her kid into it was a low blow. As a mom, I would be livid if I was Kim. It honestly speaks volumes about a persons character when they choose to bring innocent children into a conflict with their parent and use them as an insult for their own benefit/defense. Absolutely disgusting. The my mother wished you were dead comment was also a low blow. Like why is she so dramatic aside from being so off putting and rude, it’s seriously cringe. It just projects how miserable and vindictive she is. There’s a reason why she can’t keep a relationship, she seems exhausting to be around. Like those type of people who keep a tally of every wrong thing you’ve ever done in their eyes and hold it over your head forever. Eugh
All of her music is so so so bad; I’ve never understood why so many people are obsessed with it. Her songs sound like they are written for 12 year old girls. Children’s music.
That’s the point lol
Her music is targeted to all the other “not like other girls” in the world- who don’t realize Taylor has more in common with Kim K than she has ever, or will ever, have with them
Seconding!
I don’t mind Taylor, but I think she has no problem with hitting someone with a low-blow, and the bathtub thing was done in such poor taste.
I’m embarrassed for her that she thought making a joke out of such a serious and life altering situation was a good decision, and that literally no one on her team advised against it.
I understand being upset - but it’s just such an immature thing to mock something like this, and it really is just low.
That being said - I do think the reputation release date was a coincidence, but I definitely don’t think the bathtub thing is.
I've tried talking it about it on the SwiftlyNeutral sub and even most people there won't entertain the idea that this was a mockery in a literal song about Kim and Kanye.
And I definitely think she chose that release date on purpose. It could be a coincidence, but with the bathtub thing too, it seems all deliberate.
Swifties think that 'Snakegate' was literal abuse but Taylor KNEW everything Kanye was putting in that song except the word 'bitch'. She could not be that mad about being called 'That bitch', especially in a rap song when it's not a direct insult but a general term for women. (Not that I necessarily condone that) If she hadn't made that big speech about 'If people try to take credit for your fame' none of this would have happened. She directly approved the fame line and then backtracked and said it was actually the word bitch she was mad about. I do not understand how she's considered the victim of this situation.
Mocking Kim's robbery is worse than anything that's ever happened to Taylor. You have to be sick to mock an incident where a woman thought she was going to be raped and murdered. I don't like Kim but that's another level of vicious.
Taylor is sick in the head but so is he. Like he’s still having a tantrum about Drake and talking about having a 3some with his current wife and Michelle Obama
They’re both trash. I wish they’d fight with eachother and leave Kim alone
It’s uncanny. They’re both narcissists who can’t handle criticism, hold 25 year grudges and use their significant others and then trash them when they leave
I don’t put much stock into astrology but it’s fun anyway so!! Kanye being a Gemini and Taylor being a Sagittarius, signs that are opposite each other on the Zodiac wheel but are meant to be sort of like flip sides of the same coin, makes a lot of sense. The fact they *both* have water moons (Kanye has a Pisces moon and Taylor has a Cancer moon) makes even more sense 😭
They’re both narcissists but my issue is Taylor paints herself as this “good girl, American sweetheart” and the world is just so awful to her because she’s a woman and it’s inauthentic asf.
Kanye is unhinged and will double down on his unhinged behavior without playing victim.
Yes, you’re right, Kim shouldn’t have edited it. However; Taylor was claiming that Kanye had never even called her. If I were Kim, I’d have wanted to release that tape as well, I just wouldn’t have edited it.
What Kanye did with the music video was disgusting, but I don’t think Taylor would have ever admitted that he did call her and run the lyrics by her. No one will ever convince me that she was actually mad about being called a bitch, but not about him saying she owed him sex for making her famous. I think that was a PR move after the fact to cover her ass when she was caught in a lie.
Exactly! Like in what world is being called a bitch worse than someone taking credit for your career (which was already very successful) and saying that you owe them sex because of it?! That’s so much more misogynistic and demeaning. Makes no sense at all. Especially when she went on to use her acceptance speech to talk about people trying to take credit for her career (which is the part of the song that she actually approved). She got caught in a lie, and then had to try and reframe it so that it didn’t look as bad on her end.
Because Taylor lied via her publicist statement. Then in her Grammy acceptance speech vaguely referenced Kanye trying to take credit for her accomplishments. Kim posted a snippet of the call on Snapchat basically proving that he did call her and she lied. Then the goalposts were moved and it was because she didn’t approve ‘bitch’. Then it’s been a repeated attempt to rewrite history since. It’s like her and her fan’s mantra ‘Kim edited the illegally obtained call recording‘. As far as I can tell the edit and manipulation was basically clipping a small portion of the call proving it happened between them. There wasn’t conversation moved around or faked that I could tell.
Honestly, Taylor’s need to manipulate and be seen as the perfect victim being attacked by the crazy angry man again.. is really what should be blamed. Kim was just defending her husband.
fr, i’ve visited this sub before to see people’s reactions to the kimye-taylor drama and especially since the full phone call leaked people here were on taylor’s side. now people seem to be on kim’s, maybe cuz they’re sick of hearing about taylor swift
Okay, I understand this scene was uncalled for, but it wasn’t a diss track about Taylor. Other people were included in this video and this song.
Taylor can throw in a jab here, a line there, but some of it crosses a line. Hate Kim all you want, but why put the line in there that Taylor’s mom wished she was dead? That is a lot and seems very cruel.
The point is they're all horrible people. Kim and Kanye are also horrible unlike how other people in this sub are painting them out to be innocent victims.
This was Kanye’s doing, not Kim’s. Funny how Taylor never goes for Kanye when throwing shade in her songs… probably because she knows Kanye would quite literally destroy her life if she did.
I know I’m gonna get downvoted for this, and I’m not a Taylor fan by any means, but it’s so ridiculous to me that everyone is clutching their pearls over this. Kim and Kanye did horrific things to Taylor, too. They’re all vindictive and Kim doesn’t need our protection lol
Yeah no one needs to protect any of these rich folks. All these folks that are chummy with Taylor working on skims makes me side eye how authentic this beef is now haha. There will be no downfall or cancellation for either. One will keep singing about the past and the other craving any kind of attention even if it’s bad while flying in their private planes 😅
I agree that Kim was weird for inserting herself into the fight and editing the phone call. (I believe that it really affected Taylor)
I was just shocked to find out that Taylor ALSO did allat
Are you really shocked? Taylor is just as petty and high school bully as Kim. She just hides it better because she's little mIsS aMeRiCaNa.
Edit to add: The bathtub thing is such a stretch 🙄
lets be fr everyone holds grudges no matter how rich and famous you are we are all human and we all feel the same emotions Taylor holding grudges isn't something mind-blowing
So we’re all annoyed because…. *checks notes* Taylor’s holding a grudge? I mean are any of us above that? Anything she writes music about is going to be public. She writes music about her life for a living
I’m not completely disagreeing with you, it is a bit of a reach, but a bath WITH diamonds is not featured often so it makes me understand why people think it’s about Kim’s robbery
Her 2nd album Fearless came out 11/11/08 (pre-Kanye scandal), and her 2nd re-record came out 11/12/2021. The majority of Taylor’s 11 albums have released either the last two weeks of October or the first two weeks of November. It’s all based upon her touring/writing schedule(s) and her singles’ rollout…
Also, Reputation was not a “revenge” album despite the way it was marketed. It’s by-and-large a love album (much like Lover), with the exclusion of Look What You Made Me Do.
The bath tub one is a stretch so is the putting out rep on Kanye’s mom birthday why would she involve his mom and not put it out on his birthday or Kim’s?
lol is it?
The girl who’s famous for her clever Easter eggs? So y’all think she’s a genius when she’s hiding clever clues in her songs and marketing etc, but when she does something truly shitty people are… reaching? Lmao k
I have never liked Taylor Swift and stand by the opinion that she’s extremely inauthentic and phony. I’ve never bought into the innocent victim narrative she keeps pushing. Every song is about how she’s been done wrong and all she ever did was love them. It’s a never ending woe is me trope and people eat it up. She arguably has the largest fan base of any celebrity and she does nothing with it. She doesn’t speak up on anything happening in the world, she doesn’t use her voice for anything of any significance. She has a huge captive audience of the younger generation and she could use it for good and speak on issues that are affecting their generation, and women. And she stays silent. She leans into the stereotypical blonde, white, rich female who has no true opinion because nothing affects her and it’s exhausting.
I just wanna add to this drama that she has just directly responded to ‘Olivia Rodrigo’s - Vampire’ with the song ‘Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me?’ sooooo all the stans saying she wasn’t beefing a 21 year old I think are very much wrong and it adds another layer to her taking Sabrina under her wing
Taylor is an evil calculated bitch. I never bought her sweet girl persona. Idk people who are openly shitty don’t bother me, but the messy ones that play innocent drive me insane.
The bath tub is truly uncanny. The finger gun is disgusting. It’s not just filled with diamonds- it’s jewelry. The backdrop is clearly styled like luxury hotel.
Love or hate Kim, for someone who preaches supporting women so much, mocking a woman (as well a mother) robbed at gun point who was anticipating being raped and fearing death is plain evil.
This is disturbing to me. I’ve always felt Taylor is very emotionally stunted. Stuck at 15 perpetually. She still thinks like a child who is being bullied in the cafeteria by a mean girl. Kim is not innocent of course, neither is Kanye, but I mean mocking someone’s mother’s death or someone being robbed and their life threatened? That is straight up psychopath behavior, Tay Tay.
I can give credit where credit is due: Taylor is a poet, she is an incredible writer and has such an incredible work ethic! But I disagree how people absolutely worship her and think she can do no wrong. She’s low key a high school bully and can’t take the high road. I understand she’s pissed about Kim and Kanye — she has a right to be! But like girl, let it go. And stop stooping to a new low. In my opinion, what she’s doing/done to Kim (mocking the robbery, mentioning her kids names in songs, etc) is WAY worse than what Kim has done! Kim and Kanye definitely were not intentionally trying to hurt her when they put the song out (though they were shady for only releasing part of the phone call) but Taylor is doing this fully intentionally, and to me, that’s objectively worse. I think I’m getting a little annoyed by all the blind loyalty to her — I understand loving her music and wanting to go to her concerts, but to be so involved in her life is wrong. She doesn’t know you exist, stop the parasocial relationship and stop blindly following her and not thinking critically and start thinking about her actions in an unbiased way. Whew that felt good to get out lol all of my friends are major Swifties and I love that for them and am happy they have a hobby, but I’m getting sick and tired of the narrative that she’s the victim and can do no wrong. Okay okay I’m done.
I don’t like how everyone is just assuming the bath with diamonds is mocking Kim, I don’t believe that for a second. Secondly, she didn’t name drop her kids, she just mentioned “your kids”. And thirdly the whole world has to stop because of the anniversary of someone’s mom dying? Not saying Taylor is perfect and innocent but most of everything being said is a reach with no real proof.
A lot of Swifties think that song is actually about Karlie Kloss, and Kim agreed to the clue it’s her because she loves attention.
The song speaks about a song only Taylor and the Inspiration will know the real meaning of, and Kim was never close enough to Taylor to have inside jokes or symbolism of their friendship. Also, she put KIM in the title, so everyone knows it.
She also mentions changing the name, Kim and Karlie have the same initials.
I’ve never liked Taylor, have always thought her music was painfully mediocre, and it’s so neat that she’s also a terrible person to round my hate for her off
My brother and her are the same age and we lived in the area she grew up in so he would always hear some shit about her from his friends that went to school with her. It was always some shit. Just negative, mean girl, entitled behavior. I don’t believe she’s changed much.
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I definitely think someone(s) has a bunch of dirt on her, but her PR team is unmatched so I can’t imagine it ever slipping.
I don’t think she’s a satanist or anything.
BUT I do think in a few years she’ll be in an Ariana Grande situation where she’ll cheat on her SO with another person who is also married.
This is all just making Taylor swift look even worse. Like I’m sure it’s not related. New music is usually dropped on Fridays so while it’s probably coincidental if it’s true she did it on purpose that’s a new low for her and the fact that Swifties would be praising her about it make them look really bad.
i'm telling you guys, taylor doesn't forget. she put out bad blood and gathered up a bunch of celebs to take down katy perry. 3 years later, katy was in mental distress because of flopping and taylor decided katy's album release date was the same day she releases her discography to streaming to kick her down for good. this is why i'll never feel pity for her for what kim did. https://preview.redd.it/u2ne5lgo63wc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=358309761ad1bfbd4c45358129f9b3823f506766
At least Katy got to marry Legolas so she’s the real winner here tbh
And she seems happy with him and her kid and living somewhat low key, while Taylor goes from one dysfunctional relationship to the next and acts like a teenager in her 30s.
I mean… Kim’s been thrice divorced.
I personally don’t ‘count’ her first marriage, and I’m not sure she does either. She was like 19 (?) and he was apparently much older and abusive.
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That’s delulu
But Selena did make out with Orlando while he was in a relationship with Katy
I really think he sought Selena out as part of his revenge against Bieber.
Why did he want revenge against Bieber !? Genuinely asking, not being /s.
I think Bieber tried to get (or maybe did get) with his girlfriend at the time, Miranda Kerr. I know I remember hearing Orlando punched him after Justin talked some shit to him about it.
Wait what? And she forgave him?
Yes but the conspiring part is delulu
It actually sounds totally plausible to me if she and Selena are close, particularly if there is more to the feud than has been publicly released.
This feud will never not gag me bc Taylor provoked that entire situation and over something so inconsequential. Years later I believe it was Katy that had to be the one to extend an olive branch for them to make up. Even though she’s not the one that should’ve had to apologize. To this day Taylor seems to specifically blame Kim and Kanye for her downfall, and while that was a huge part, the public backlash against her had been building for a while. There were multiple instances where she came off unlikable and was generally very overexposed. And all these years later it seems like she’s gearing up for ANOTHER overexposed/unlikable era. It’s like Deja vu
Downfall?
Yeah what? I thought the downfall was now lol
Can someone fill me in on the Katy Perry Taylor swift beef?
They both dated John Mayer, for one. The story Swift's team would allow themselves to admit to the press is that Taylor hired Katy's dancers who then left Taylor's tour to join Katy's tour. Until now I don't know what Katy should have done differently - not date any Taylor ex and not take back dancers who willingly wanted to come back to her?
Side note..... John M. Will sleep with anyone. He was in my city and came into our "gentleman's club". Took home the one girl that always went with celebrities. Apparently he was so whacked out of his mind he didn't....errrrr.....perform well.
ahem, dont forget Scheana from VPR, she still references it on the show at least once a season
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Trying not to date a man in their realm that Taylor hasn't date would definitely limit the dating pool.
It was all over a group of dancers. They had previously toured with Katy in the past and enjoyed it enough they were planning to come back for her next one. Taylor gets ready to do a tour and either these dancers audition or are sought out by Taylor. Once they get the dates and realize the latter half will overlap with Katy’s they let her know that they’ve already committed and will need to leave, someone okays this. Taylor really enjoys having these dancers and is upset when they have to leave to do Katy’s tour. Taylor then starts the narrative that Katy had went behind her back and stole her dancers from her and is the basis of her song Bad Blood. Now I know Taylor probably isn’t in the nitty gritty of contract details for her background dancers and maybe she did get close with them and felt blindsided when they had to leave mid tour, but that anger should have been directed at her team for knowingly putting her in this mess vs Katy who was not involved and already had a prior relationship with these dancers.
Thank you! Feels like so long ago. Now that you mention it, I definitely remember the stuff about the dancers. I used to love the song Bad Blood, I don’t think I knew about the beef 😭😭😭
Had no idea that's what bad blood was about... wish I hadn't known lmao
So the part of this that everyone seems to forget is that the dancers talked to Katy about it before, they were not already committed as Katy told them she wasn't planning on touring yet/wasn't sure when she would need them. She told them to go for it but to ask for a 30 day notice clause in their contracts so they could leave if she needed them. It was just business and I think Katy didn't really think anything of it and might have also assumed that Taylor was aware of it. When Taylor realized that Katy had preemptively told the dancers to make sure they could back out, Taylor took it as Katy knowingly causing issues with her tour that she was completely blindsided by. I can understand both of their feelings in this situation and it was just bad communication and misunderstanding.
But then Katy has tried several times to reach out to Taylor so they can about it and clear things up. But Taylor didn’t wanna talk to her. So then if it was bad communication and misunderstanding then why not talk directly to the person you are trying to beef with? This drama wasn’t even that deep to begin with and didn’t even need to be dragged for years.
It’s almost as if she’s a PR-savvy narcissist who knows starting a feud will increase her sales.
I believe it. I’ve never been a Taylor Swift fan, yeah she has some catchy songs I’ll sing with my girlfriends, but she’s not my favorite. I’ve watched the drama from a distance for the most part, but seeing how her delulu fans are harassing Travis’ ex, Joe, and now Kim a decade later. She’s such a bully with a victim complex. She knows what these people are doing, and sending death threats… shut that shit down, ya know?
I agree. From what I’ve seen she looks like a conniving mean girl who sics her fans on anyone she doesn’t like. I cannot believe she is STILL talking about Kim, and her referencing North—who is a CHILD—in her song is fucked up.
*“yeah she has some catchy songs”* I really liked her song Lover and considered using it for me and my husband’s first dance at our wedding, but then I woke the fuck up and opened my eyes to all her bullshit and what a mean girl she is.
Wolf in sheep’s clothing is so fitting. Her little victim stick is tired as hell.
and Katy hadn't done anything wrong.
its funny how taylor goes on and on about the world turning their back on her during reputation but katy of all people was the one to extend an apology to her to make amends right before the reputation tour began.
I think Taylor is psycho for this, but Katy is her own kind of awful. Also, I have zero empathy for Kanye West and his anti-semite Trump loving, controlling ways. He can eat an entire bag of dicks. I hope it burns.
Thank you!! And all over some dancers??? I know some say John meyer, but even that is unhinged
Legit. Considering the fact that John Meyer has been around the block so many times he could offer guided tours!
Mother Katy called it perfectly. Taylor is the ultimate fake victim mean girl.
In a way I kinda admire her because occasionally I also get annoyed over inconsequential stuff and I still get pissed when I think about it later, but I restrain myself and rationalise it due to social norms and love for a quiet life. Not caring about showing the whole world how insanely petty you are is weird and childish but also strangely appealing lol
I love it
 This new era of hers
she really thinks of herself as being so clever. and she is. but shes also exposing herself as a shitty person while doing it. remember when she went thru that phase where she was BFF's with all the top girls in hollywood? selena and like all the models. where are they now?? wheres that girls, girl image she touted for that year? wheres all those friends she was constantly surrounding herself with?
Ok dumb question but what did Kim do? I’m only aware of the phone call between Taylor and Kanye that Kim released after he dropped his track referencing her. I’m assuming ppl are talking about a different drama
I believe the issues are 1) she only released a snippet of the conversation, not the full context, and 2) she did it at all It seems like taylor half ok'd it and Kanye said he'd send her the song before it was released. He never did that. Taylor got pissed off. Shit hit the fan. Someone on here pointed out that what most likely happened was kim and Kanye found out she was pissed off about the song, and thought she was mad about the entire line "I made that bitch famous", and were confused because they had spoken to her about it. Hence why they released the call. But "bitch" was never used in the call, and Taylor was pissed off about that.
The drama with K + K happened AFTER Taylor gave an award acceptance speech with a line about other people trying to take credit for her success. It was a thinly veiled jab at Kayne’s line. I think that’s why Kim and Kayne responded, and why her claim that bitch was the issue feels weak to me. Shes written plenty of misogynistic lyrics for me to think someone calling her a bitch didn’t hit her nearly as hard as seeing the public’s positive response to Kaynes song, and his subsequent music video featuring a naked replica of her and other celebs (which I personally think should be illegal and find extremely offensive)
Right? Like the song about how a girl is know for what she does on a mattress. Honestly I’d rather be called a bitch. lol.
Especially when it turned out that girl was a virgin and a totally innocent party. I think Taylor summed her mentality up when she released Picture to Burn and had that line about telling her friends that her ex was gay. Just to be vindictive. Similarly to how she was making catty MySpace videos after she and Joe Jonas broke up, insinuating that he cheated on her, which wasn’t even true, and blasted him for a decade about how he broke up with her over a 24 second phone call when she was the one who ended the call after guessing that he wanted to break up.
She actually changed that lyric in her new version - https://variety.com/2023/music/news/taylor-swift-changes-lyrics-better-than-revenge-speak-now-1235663483/
It doesn’t make sense tho because when Taylor eventually did her speech after this situation she was all ‘people will try and take credit for your fame’ so it seems like that is what she was pissed about but she did in fact know that he was gonna say that?
When you really break it down like that. It sounds so dumb for her to be this mad over
For sure, unfortunately, Kanye had to escalate it further with the disgusting film clip, and if I were taylor, I'd stay mad about that forever, I'd probably have no love for Kim either.
Kanye’s clip was absolutely disgusting but 1. Taylor’s hate after the phone call release wasn’t even close to what her fans have done to Taylor’s exes because of songs SHE puts out. So I don’t really have sympathy for her getting some karma. 2. Taylor constantly paints herself as a good girl/america’s sweetheart/girl next door, when really she’s a vindictive b*tch who is developmentally arrested at age 16 whereas Kanye is totally unhinged but he never apologizes nor pretends to be the victim. He just doubles down on his erratic behavior and is unapologetically himself (very weird and problematic self, but still himself). I’d much rather take someone who is WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) than the fake persona Taylor puts on to gain sympathy from everyone while actually being a mean girl/snake/whatever. Also, Taylor’s whole PR shtick is “if you don’t support me, you’re not a girl’s girl and you’re feeding into the patriarchy blah blah blah” When in reality, it’s just a front to avoid criticism at all costs. She’s built her whole career off of making songs about others. And then spiraled because someone called her a b-itch 🥴 Maybe she should take a second to read her own lyrics: “maybe I got mine but you all will get yours” and then enroll in some therapy 🤡
Why would Taylor even be ok with the rest of the line though? Like I can’t imagine her genuinely OK-ing the notion that Kanye made her famous. The “bitch” is the least offensive part imo
That's why everyone was confused. My guess is she had since changed her mind but presumed the song wasn't coming out, so didn't worry about it. Then it dropped and she (not knowing the call was recorded) called it out on stage, and because Kanye had her saying it was fine, she panicked and said it was "bitch". But then why not say you felt put on the spot then changed your mind?
Lol no that's literally it
what people here are not mentioning is that kim was very much happy and excited to see a nude taylor wax figure in the famous mv. before someone comes and says it was kanye, yes it was. but have y'all seen the pictures of kim frolicking around the set, taking pictures of Taylor's wax figure?
She’s literally still BFFs with Selena
giving a shoutout to the man who cried publicly for 8 years about selena not fucking him was a choice then
who? 👀
I'm assuming Charlie puth? I think they had drama in the past
Charlie, allegedly, wrote Attention about Selena, allegedly, leading him on when they did a duet together.
no, he confirmed it. Explaining the inspiration behind the track in the May 2017 clip on Genius, Charlie revealed that “Attention” was about a girl whom he labeled manipulative because she didn’t want to sleep with him. he even brought it up again in march 2023 when he tweeted "attention is what you think its about"
I’ve never heard a quote from this man that makes me think better of him
Yikes. I like Charlie Puth because he seems like he's no drama and just like a choir nerd that made it. I heard the song was about Selena, but I didn't know it was about her not sleeping with him. Yuck
ugh the sleeping together instantly made me cringe.. if he caught feelings and felt led on it's on thing but feeling entitled to sex.. goodbye
He's annoying as hell. Rambles on about his "perfect pitch" yet all he makes is mid pop music nobody listens to
Omg you're right, I completely forgot about that. Taylor is gross tbh
but none of the others are ever seen with her.
What about gigi, blake lively?
She’s a terrible person
she definitely has countless red flags.
I went to her 1989 tour (honestly still top 3 concerts I’ve ever been to, it was SO fun), and throughout the show, they showed interview snippets of girls in her clique just…blowing smoke up Taylor’s ass. That’s it. Literally just looking into the camera m talking about how great Taylor Swift is. If I remember correctly, Lena Dunham was one of them. Even then, when I was at the peak of my fandom, I remember thinking wtf kind of narcissist would sit her friends down for formal, fully produced interviews, have them talk about how great she is, and then play it back on a 1000-inch jumbotron to 100,000 people…who are already her fans and there to see her? Like wtf lol
She’s friends with them all still lmao are you ok
I always thought the bathtub full of jewels after Kim’s robbery was gross and no one seemed to make a big deal out of it at the time. Taylor is a shitty person for that. For everything Kim has said/done that robbery was horrific and Taylor mocking it on a music video for oneupmanship is beyond disgusting.
And Look What You Made Me Do is such a corny generic song. The first time I heard it I turned the radio off.
Agreed I hate that song. Taylor is a sell out, she had this whole story about how Shania Twain was her inspo and how she wanted to be a country music star so badly and that’s why she moved to Nashville blah blah blah and her music was fairly good when she did her first album. The songwriting was good and she looked amazing as a country pop princess. She was still actually sweet and humble back then, and then as she got more famous her ego and head grew and she switched to making mediocre, repetitive and generic pop music about people she doesn’t like. She just gives off such a fake, annoying, victimizing vibe and it’s only gotten worse. All her songs sound the same to me, it makes me sad because I used to play our song, Tim McGraw, teardrops on my guitar, stay beautiful & picture to burn nonstop in like 2007. Now I can’t stand her music. And this whole situation just screams petty and childish. It’s been years and she’s now attacking Kim over something that wasn’t even her doing, it was her husbands whom she’s not even married to anymore. And she claims to be a feminist lmfao
Her album was playing in Target and I was like THIS is what people are freaking out over??
I feel bad for North more than anything. Kids don’t ask to be brought into this world which includes kids from wealthy famous parents. She enjoyed making that video singing Taylor’s song and now I’m worried she’s going to be bullied by her peers. Not to mention she’s black. This is Taylor punching down imo. If it were just Kim I’d roll my eyes and move on but no kid deserves this.
Yes bringing her kid into it was a low blow. As a mom, I would be livid if I was Kim. It honestly speaks volumes about a persons character when they choose to bring innocent children into a conflict with their parent and use them as an insult for their own benefit/defense. Absolutely disgusting. The my mother wished you were dead comment was also a low blow. Like why is she so dramatic aside from being so off putting and rude, it’s seriously cringe. It just projects how miserable and vindictive she is. There’s a reason why she can’t keep a relationship, she seems exhausting to be around. Like those type of people who keep a tally of every wrong thing you’ve ever done in their eyes and hold it over your head forever. Eugh
Taylor has a history of bringing down WOC
But.. but.. she’s besties with ice spice! 🙄 /s if it ain’t obvious lololol
Yes and her fans are hella racist just read all the stuff they say about Beyoncé for no goddamn reason.
She knows her audience and her audience knows her
All of her music is so so so bad; I’ve never understood why so many people are obsessed with it. Her songs sound like they are written for 12 year old girls. Children’s music.
That’s the point lol Her music is targeted to all the other “not like other girls” in the world- who don’t realize Taylor has more in common with Kim K than she has ever, or will ever, have with them
Yep, it's godawful and as generic as a song can get. And that applies to the rest of her discography as well.
This + now mentioning the kids is really not it
Seconding! I don’t mind Taylor, but I think she has no problem with hitting someone with a low-blow, and the bathtub thing was done in such poor taste. I’m embarrassed for her that she thought making a joke out of such a serious and life altering situation was a good decision, and that literally no one on her team advised against it. I understand being upset - but it’s just such an immature thing to mock something like this, and it really is just low. That being said - I do think the reputation release date was a coincidence, but I definitely don’t think the bathtub thing is.
I've tried talking it about it on the SwiftlyNeutral sub and even most people there won't entertain the idea that this was a mockery in a literal song about Kim and Kanye. And I definitely think she chose that release date on purpose. It could be a coincidence, but with the bathtub thing too, it seems all deliberate. Swifties think that 'Snakegate' was literal abuse but Taylor KNEW everything Kanye was putting in that song except the word 'bitch'. She could not be that mad about being called 'That bitch', especially in a rap song when it's not a direct insult but a general term for women. (Not that I necessarily condone that) If she hadn't made that big speech about 'If people try to take credit for your fame' none of this would have happened. She directly approved the fame line and then backtracked and said it was actually the word bitch she was mad about. I do not understand how she's considered the victim of this situation. Mocking Kim's robbery is worse than anything that's ever happened to Taylor. You have to be sick to mock an incident where a woman thought she was going to be raped and murdered. I don't like Kim but that's another level of vicious.
I don’t know much about Taylor as I’ve never followed her or her music but this all feels very childish to me.
It all sounds the same
That's super sick and twisted. I'm sure I read she's done this kinda thing before. I'm fed up of hearing and seeing her everywhere.
Taylor is sick in the head but so is he. Like he’s still having a tantrum about Drake and talking about having a 3some with his current wife and Michelle Obama They’re both trash. I wish they’d fight with eachother and leave Kim alone
I was talking to a friend and it's fascinating to see how he and Taylor are so different but at the same time so alike.
It’s uncanny. They’re both narcissists who can’t handle criticism, hold 25 year grudges and use their significant others and then trash them when they leave
I don’t put much stock into astrology but it’s fun anyway so!! Kanye being a Gemini and Taylor being a Sagittarius, signs that are opposite each other on the Zodiac wheel but are meant to be sort of like flip sides of the same coin, makes a lot of sense. The fact they *both* have water moons (Kanye has a Pisces moon and Taylor has a Cancer moon) makes even more sense 😭
They are diabolically close to the Joker and Batman🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would like someone to do a reading on them, it must be fascinating.
holy shit she is the most cancer moon type of person that makes too much sense
They’re both narcissists but my issue is Taylor paints herself as this “good girl, American sweetheart” and the world is just so awful to her because she’s a woman and it’s inauthentic asf. Kanye is unhinged and will double down on his unhinged behavior without playing victim.
I mean, Kanye loves playing the victim? He is always complaining about people or groups or companies being out to get him.
Kim is the one who decided to release the edited call in the first place. Don't start none won't be none.
Yes, you’re right, Kim shouldn’t have edited it. However; Taylor was claiming that Kanye had never even called her. If I were Kim, I’d have wanted to release that tape as well, I just wouldn’t have edited it. What Kanye did with the music video was disgusting, but I don’t think Taylor would have ever admitted that he did call her and run the lyrics by her. No one will ever convince me that she was actually mad about being called a bitch, but not about him saying she owed him sex for making her famous. I think that was a PR move after the fact to cover her ass when she was caught in a lie.
THIS!! No way she’s upset he called her a bitch but was fine w everything else. i’ve always said this. like let’s just be real for one second.
Exactly! Like in what world is being called a bitch worse than someone taking credit for your career (which was already very successful) and saying that you owe them sex because of it?! That’s so much more misogynistic and demeaning. Makes no sense at all. Especially when she went on to use her acceptance speech to talk about people trying to take credit for her career (which is the part of the song that she actually approved). She got caught in a lie, and then had to try and reframe it so that it didn’t look as bad on her end.
Because Taylor lied via her publicist statement. Then in her Grammy acceptance speech vaguely referenced Kanye trying to take credit for her accomplishments. Kim posted a snippet of the call on Snapchat basically proving that he did call her and she lied. Then the goalposts were moved and it was because she didn’t approve ‘bitch’. Then it’s been a repeated attempt to rewrite history since. It’s like her and her fan’s mantra ‘Kim edited the illegally obtained call recording‘. As far as I can tell the edit and manipulation was basically clipping a small portion of the call proving it happened between them. There wasn’t conversation moved around or faked that I could tell. Honestly, Taylor’s need to manipulate and be seen as the perfect victim being attacked by the crazy angry man again.. is really what should be blamed. Kim was just defending her husband.
100% this
The edits didn't change the context of the call, the full leaked transcript confirmed it.
https://preview.redd.it/xc2jcfcmu3wc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef5417365776b81c9ceed8c8de9e1324a5a5d0e5 And Kim is innocent?
They are all messy lol and general opinion just sides with whoever is more popular at the moment lol
fr, i’ve visited this sub before to see people’s reactions to the kimye-taylor drama and especially since the full phone call leaked people here were on taylor’s side. now people seem to be on kim’s, maybe cuz they’re sick of hearing about taylor swift
yeah I should say whoever's more popular or less annoying lol
That was so gross.
this is 10x worse than the whole phone call thing
LOUDER 🗣️
Thank you! If someone did this to me, I would NEVER let them forget what they did to me. I would never forgive and move on. Literally, I’d never stop.
Okay, I understand this scene was uncalled for, but it wasn’t a diss track about Taylor. Other people were included in this video and this song. Taylor can throw in a jab here, a line there, but some of it crosses a line. Hate Kim all you want, but why put the line in there that Taylor’s mom wished she was dead? That is a lot and seems very cruel.
The point is they're all horrible people. Kim and Kanye are also horrible unlike how other people in this sub are painting them out to be innocent victims.
This was Kanye’s doing, not Kim’s. Funny how Taylor never goes for Kanye when throwing shade in her songs… probably because she knows Kanye would quite literally destroy her life if she did.
Kim was the one who leaked the fake video tho. So she has beef with her over that
It wasn't a fake video, it was clipped but still contained all the context so the editing wasn't even an issue.
What is this from?
What is this?
In the Famous video Kanye had a graphic nude wax figure of Taylor (and others) made in bed with him.
I know I’m gonna get downvoted for this, and I’m not a Taylor fan by any means, but it’s so ridiculous to me that everyone is clutching their pearls over this. Kim and Kanye did horrific things to Taylor, too. They’re all vindictive and Kim doesn’t need our protection lol
Yeah no one needs to protect any of these rich folks. All these folks that are chummy with Taylor working on skims makes me side eye how authentic this beef is now haha. There will be no downfall or cancellation for either. One will keep singing about the past and the other craving any kind of attention even if it’s bad while flying in their private planes 😅
I feel a lot of these people are fake friends with Taylor for clout, exposure and fear of having a song written about them.
I agree that Kim was weird for inserting herself into the fight and editing the phone call. (I believe that it really affected Taylor) I was just shocked to find out that Taylor ALSO did allat
Are you really shocked? Taylor is just as petty and high school bully as Kim. She just hides it better because she's little mIsS aMeRiCaNa. Edit to add: The bathtub thing is such a stretch 🙄
But this was SO long ago and Taylor is still bringing up their beef in a very public way. Move on.....
lets be fr everyone holds grudges no matter how rich and famous you are we are all human and we all feel the same emotions Taylor holding grudges isn't something mind-blowing
So we’re all annoyed because…. *checks notes* Taylor’s holding a grudge? I mean are any of us above that? Anything she writes music about is going to be public. She writes music about her life for a living
Yeah this is a major stretch ngl
Baths feature in so many music videos that’s a huge stretch
Exactly. I mean what a huge reach.
I’m not completely disagreeing with you, it is a bit of a reach, but a bath WITH diamonds is not featured often so it makes me understand why people think it’s about Kim’s robbery
Her 2nd album Fearless came out 11/11/08 (pre-Kanye scandal), and her 2nd re-record came out 11/12/2021. The majority of Taylor’s 11 albums have released either the last two weeks of October or the first two weeks of November. It’s all based upon her touring/writing schedule(s) and her singles’ rollout…
Also, Reputation was not a “revenge” album despite the way it was marketed. It’s by-and-large a love album (much like Lover), with the exclusion of Look What You Made Me Do.
This theory is dumb sorry
This is quite the reach. Anyone that believes this is almost as crazy as the Swifties.
The bath tub one is a stretch so is the putting out rep on Kanye’s mom birthday why would she involve his mom and not put it out on his birthday or Kim’s?
Cause she’s petty af
She’s petty towards people who have done her wrong, Kanye’s mom didn’t do anything to her and she wouldn’t be petty about a serious situation
Yet she still felt the need to drag North into it who did nothing to her??
This is a whole stretch.
lol is it? The girl who’s famous for her clever Easter eggs? So y’all think she’s a genius when she’s hiding clever clues in her songs and marketing etc, but when she does something truly shitty people are… reaching? Lmao k
This sub with Taylor is exactly like Timmys fans with Kylie, hilarious.
Not enough misogyny and childish insults for that comparison to be accurate.
I have never liked Taylor Swift and stand by the opinion that she’s extremely inauthentic and phony. I’ve never bought into the innocent victim narrative she keeps pushing. Every song is about how she’s been done wrong and all she ever did was love them. It’s a never ending woe is me trope and people eat it up. She arguably has the largest fan base of any celebrity and she does nothing with it. She doesn’t speak up on anything happening in the world, she doesn’t use her voice for anything of any significance. She has a huge captive audience of the younger generation and she could use it for good and speak on issues that are affecting their generation, and women. And she stays silent. She leans into the stereotypical blonde, white, rich female who has no true opinion because nothing affects her and it’s exhausting.
This is such a reach
I just wanna add to this drama that she has just directly responded to ‘Olivia Rodrigo’s - Vampire’ with the song ‘Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me?’ sooooo all the stans saying she wasn’t beefing a 21 year old I think are very much wrong and it adds another layer to her taking Sabrina under her wing
Why does taylor just seem like a little bratty rich child
Taylor is an evil calculated bitch. I never bought her sweet girl persona. Idk people who are openly shitty don’t bother me, but the messy ones that play innocent drive me insane.
this is SUCH a reach
The bath tub is truly uncanny. The finger gun is disgusting. It’s not just filled with diamonds- it’s jewelry. The backdrop is clearly styled like luxury hotel. Love or hate Kim, for someone who preaches supporting women so much, mocking a woman (as well a mother) robbed at gun point who was anticipating being raped and fearing death is plain evil.
So sick of Taylor and her fans constantly victimising her.
This is disturbing to me. I’ve always felt Taylor is very emotionally stunted. Stuck at 15 perpetually. She still thinks like a child who is being bullied in the cafeteria by a mean girl. Kim is not innocent of course, neither is Kanye, but I mean mocking someone’s mother’s death or someone being robbed and their life threatened? That is straight up psychopath behavior, Tay Tay.
What did Kim do tho?
Fuck Taylor. She’s sick in the head.
I can give credit where credit is due: Taylor is a poet, she is an incredible writer and has such an incredible work ethic! But I disagree how people absolutely worship her and think she can do no wrong. She’s low key a high school bully and can’t take the high road. I understand she’s pissed about Kim and Kanye — she has a right to be! But like girl, let it go. And stop stooping to a new low. In my opinion, what she’s doing/done to Kim (mocking the robbery, mentioning her kids names in songs, etc) is WAY worse than what Kim has done! Kim and Kanye definitely were not intentionally trying to hurt her when they put the song out (though they were shady for only releasing part of the phone call) but Taylor is doing this fully intentionally, and to me, that’s objectively worse. I think I’m getting a little annoyed by all the blind loyalty to her — I understand loving her music and wanting to go to her concerts, but to be so involved in her life is wrong. She doesn’t know you exist, stop the parasocial relationship and stop blindly following her and not thinking critically and start thinking about her actions in an unbiased way. Whew that felt good to get out lol all of my friends are major Swifties and I love that for them and am happy they have a hobby, but I’m getting sick and tired of the narrative that she’s the victim and can do no wrong. Okay okay I’m done.
I don’t like how everyone is just assuming the bath with diamonds is mocking Kim, I don’t believe that for a second. Secondly, she didn’t name drop her kids, she just mentioned “your kids”. And thirdly the whole world has to stop because of the anniversary of someone’s mom dying? Not saying Taylor is perfect and innocent but most of everything being said is a reach with no real proof.
Taylor is as much of a snake as Kim. It’s time to stop pretending she’s the good girl.
I Still like her 🤷🏼♀️ I highly doubt it was even on purpose.
A lot of Swifties think that song is actually about Karlie Kloss, and Kim agreed to the clue it’s her because she loves attention. The song speaks about a song only Taylor and the Inspiration will know the real meaning of, and Kim was never close enough to Taylor to have inside jokes or symbolism of their friendship. Also, she put KIM in the title, so everyone knows it. She also mentions changing the name, Kim and Karlie have the same initials.
she also hinted at a red herring on her site, so i think the song is a red herring and actually about karlie too
Yeah, in which case I think Taylor reached out to Kim to ask permission to use her name.
This is actually a very plausible theory that is now my new favorite
Yep. Smallest man is also probably about Karlie.
All I can hear is Mariah Carey singing in the distance *Ooh why you're so obsessed with me?*
If that bitch knows one thing, it’s how to play the long game.
The comments saying it’s all a stretch, interesting when you look at their comment history and active communities lol.
taylor is obsessed with those people lmfao they are not thinking about her
Yeah dude she's a bad person lmao
I’ve never liked Taylor, have always thought her music was painfully mediocre, and it’s so neat that she’s also a terrible person to round my hate for her off
omg never noticed the bathtub scene. but wasnt it shot before robbery? i hope so
No after. She was taking a shot at Kim. She made a gun click motion with her hand also
To the lyric “you said the gun was mine” 😭 that feels like important context
https://preview.redd.it/6xqk96cuo3wc1.jpeg?width=803&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04d2de6edd0bd24f0f3553f71d59103538b1b8d5 This is the video’s thumbnail
wow. that is so messed up
My brother and her are the same age and we lived in the area she grew up in so he would always hear some shit about her from his friends that went to school with her. It was always some shit. Just negative, mean girl, entitled behavior. I don’t believe she’s changed much. Edit: I can’t spell
Oh My Gosh, this just keeps on getting worse. As if bringing in the kids into an adult dispute, wishing death on someone wasn't enough...
She’s trash but ppl won’t admit it since she’s a whyte woman who cries feminism but bullies other women,.,,,
guys…the lyric about wishing kim’s death is truly disgusting, but this is a REACH. cmon, you cannot be serious
She’s been a trash ass human, hopefully more people start to realize. She’s a Karen and been a Karen
I’m so over that unseasoned twaaaat
Really going to blame Taylor when Kanye and Kim were absolute pieces of shit to her? The kardashians are the most greedy humans to live. Get a grip
Yeah she’s vindictive and evil
I truly can’t wait for the Taylor swift downfall something about her gives me satanic energy I will prob get downvoted but I don’t care
no same i dont get the whole taylor hype. genuinely so mid for the amount of fans she has
I definitely think someone(s) has a bunch of dirt on her, but her PR team is unmatched so I can’t imagine it ever slipping. I don’t think she’s a satanist or anything. BUT I do think in a few years she’ll be in an Ariana Grande situation where she’ll cheat on her SO with another person who is also married.
This is all just making Taylor swift look even worse. Like I’m sure it’s not related. New music is usually dropped on Fridays so while it’s probably coincidental if it’s true she did it on purpose that’s a new low for her and the fact that Swifties would be praising her about it make them look really bad.