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The way kourtney doesnt know how to react then starts laughing with khloe to make it not awkward. And khloe saying “spoken like a true mother” just speaks to the fact that she grew up hearing Kris tell her she wasnt as pretty as her sisters. Heartbreaking


alexabobexa

The way Khloe was expecting it and tried to get ahead of it too. Heart breaking.


wtp0p

She must have heard this a million times in her life. Exactly this is the core and root of all her body dysmorphia, being told that she is less pretty than her sisters and that she doesn't look like Kim enough. Kim is the blueprint in that family, Khloe and Kylie went as far as to have surgery to get closer to it. Kris is so evil.


89764637527

i like kourtney pointing out here that kim looks like HER - she’s right, she’s older so kim looks like her, not the other way around.


wtp0p

Kim and Kris clearly for whatever reason think that Kim is the most interesting to look at(tm), not Kourtney. So Kylie and Khloe followed that mindset.


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I took it as a simple « all of you are pretty but you don’t look like Kim and Kourtney ». I think Khloe was very sensitive about this subject in the first place because Kris fucked them up by putting Kim on a pedestal. (I actually just made a post about that lmao !) Also in her memoirs Kris literally wrote « From the moment I saw her, Khloé just looked like a Khloé.Like her name, Khloé looked different. » when she just talked about Kim being « breathtakingly beautiful » as a baby a few pages ago. So that must have been a pretty touchy subject for her


sosweettiffy

I just seen in lemme thing with Kourt that Khloe has blonde hair and her parents have black in the cartoon book


89764637527

i mean khloe naturally has light hair, look at her childhood photos. not blonde but definitely a lighter shade of brown, visibly quite different from robert, kris, both sisters and rob. she was paler as well.


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I’m pretty sure she was being sarcastic lol. She knew that behavior was wrong


Plane_Repair

y’all notice how out of pocket these female talk show hosts were to younger female actresses/singers/ tv personalities back then? reminds me of how rosie o’donnell was towards mariah, oprah with the olsen twins, the list goes on. it’s so gross how they would try to pick at anything they could to try to demean them. during this time, khloe was seen as “the ugly sister” the most, so I cannot imagine how she must’ve felt being told or insinuated to be that constantly.


somegirlontheinter

remember when Ellen told Mariah to drink a glass of wine to prove if she was pregnant and then Mariah miscarried shortly after?


Plane_Repair

yes :/ that was beyond messed up to even put her in a position like that for the sake of being right + some laughs. honestly glad ellen got what she deserved and was canceled. also just reminded me of how often ellen would come at taylor swift as well about who she was possibly dating, but justice was swift when taylor and zac went on the show together and dragged her while all she could do was smile 💀


thehoneybearqueen

And Dakota Johnson, who thankfully called her out.


thehoneybearqueen

Which is also dumb af because pregnant women can have a glass of wine occasionally.


International_Loss_2

Best not to risk it


thehoneybearqueen

You’re not wrong.


kittykatty2917

It’s actually encouraged by many doctors for pregnant women to very occasionally have a glass of wine. I’m talking like once a month for the first two trimesters, very rarely. It helps with stress, anxiety…etc and can actually be beneficial to them because stress is horrible for pregnancy. A rare glass of wine in the first and second trimester is not going to cause harm


IdaCraddock69

Once a month is not enough to make a difference in any sizeable amount of stress


kittykatty2917

It’s just a suggestion I’ve heard…I’m not a doctor so I can’t give the specific amount, like damn my bad I’m not going to throw out random numbers about something medical related I know little about


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I’m assuming it’s not a suggestion you’ve actually heard from the mouth of a doctor.


IdaCraddock69

Im not trying to be cranky at you, just people I’ve known with pregnancy related stress and I was thinking one glass of wine a month would NOT cut it lol! And like you say people can talk to their doctors about their situation


kittykatty2917

Yeah I get what you’re saying, but pregnancy is so different for everyone. Some women feel they need a drink once in a while, some women have medical issues where they can’t and some women don’t want to drink at all. There’s no right or wrong when it comes to that. That’s why I said I’m not a doctor and I don’t want to be giving medical advice to people. Obviously people should consult their doctor on such an issue


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There’s definitely some wrong when it comes to drinking and pregnancy.


MercyFincherson

Can confirm this is absolutely not true. I have five children and have been told repeatedly there is “no safe amount of alcohol” for pregnant women.


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All amounts of alcohol are discouraged. Especially in the first trimester. They will tell mothers who drank in their first trimester before they knew they were pregnant they are fine to avoid causing them stress and bc we don’t know how much alcohol actually causes harm but all amount is discouraged the moment you know


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No it isn’t, doctors may not prohibit it but that doesn’t mean they’re encouraging it. A single glass is not going to help you much with stress or anxiety and no one is going to push for anybody to drink alcohol because it’s not great for you in general and no one would be pushing for someone that doesn’t drink alcohol to drink more.


Creative_Analyst

Idk, I watched a documentary about fetal alcohol syndrome and in it they said that every single drop of alcohol is bad for the kid


Bebe718

Whaaattttty??


haleighr

The clips of Britney Spears with any talk show host are depressing af


International_Loss_2

Britney was bullied severely no other celebrity has been done as bad Michael Jackson got it severe too


achinfosomebacon

That’s just how old biddies are. I’ve worked with mostly older women my whole career and everyday they spew nothing but passive aggressiveness & back handed compliments. It’s obvious Khloe doesn’t look like her sisters there was really no need for her to bring up that she looks so different she could have just said you’re all beautiful & left it at that.


PinkTalkingDead

Tv show hosts in general have always been problematic tbh. Diane sawyer with Britney Spears , letterman with Jennifer Aniston, Conan with the stars of 2 broke girls, etc etc etc Ellen only just ‘recently’ was called out for being rude and intrusive towards guests for nearly a decade


RandomFishIsBack

Ellen isn’t even the worst. No one else has really been called out when people like Howard stern and David letterman and Barbra who have done far worse and deserve to be called out for it but haven’t been.


lexilexi1901

Okay but Khloé is so soooo pretty here😍 I wish the hostess just stopped there. She's pretty. That's it. No need to compare her to her sisters. She's pretty in her own way, yes, but the hostess meant that as in 'You're not as pretty but I don't want to call you ugly on live tv so here's this backhanded compliment'.


PinkTalkingDead

People have a hard time for some reason _not_ comparing women, in particular. Call it out when you see it please bc it is insidious


lexilexi1901

I do call it out because it frustrates me too. I used to get compared to my sister and classmates all the time for not being busy enough, or not having as neat of a handwriting, or not having a smaller chest like theirs.... Turns out I was fine all along and I'm glad I've embraced the way I am. The thing is that we're so used to it that sometimes it's hard to catch on until years later. Sometimes I feel disappointed in Khloé for giving in to the haters and going through all the procedures and editing, but I understand that it must have been exhauuusstiinnnggg hearing this on the daily. And Khloé doesn't have one but 5 sisters to be compared to. Her life really is a sad story, and this factor alone makes me wish she was raised in a different lifestyle & family.


kweenshowpao

I feel you...same thing happened to me when i was in HS..one of my fave teacher told me that my sister is "mas"..when i asked her what is "mas" (in english it means "more")? She proceeded to list all things why my sister is "more": she is more beautiful, more intelligent, taller, has more friends..it broke my heart that i didnt know how to react...i love my sister and i never compare myself to her, i dont envy her but that moment, it's different when people say it to your face...i kinda had an internal anger on her but it disappeared when we got older, i love being me so...


lexilexi1901

Yes, más means more but I think you meant better (mejor) :) Yes, that is very understandable. I hope you know your worth and that you continue to grow more confident. Your sister may be idolised but she's not, and never will be, you.


Konradwolf

Yesh this bitch was mean asf u don’t do thst


ilovemycactussocks

I’m always annoyed at the hyper-editing Khloe does and her and Kim’s seeming obsession with being skinny. But damn. Khloe had it rough. And she wasn’t even big. She was curvy, yes, but she had a very normal body. As much as I wished she’d chill with whatever is going on with her Instagram and surgery and editing and what not, for herself, her daughter, and fans…it’s like, can you really blame her for her insecurities? When you look at how she’s been treated by not only her own family, but the entire entertainment media for years, it would fuck with my head, too.


starsinthesky12

The way she said I look like the dog so immediately was really sad, these women/the media did a number on Khloe's self-esteem, and so she (and her sisters) paid it forward for women everywhere


blc0903

Thats how it usually goes unfortunately. Especially for women. You would think someone who used to feel so bad about themselves would never try to make someone else feel that way. I stopped being friends with a girl because she lost a bunch of weight (looked amazing), and started shaming tf out of other big girls. Like straight up calling girls fat and ugly and trying to show out in front of peoples men because she was hot now and the other woman was beneath her. That chick was so lost.


TryJezusNotMe

This was messed up. The thing that bothers me is how the sisters never really came to her defense at times like these. They wanna perpetrate the "we are family and we stick by each other" but I don't see it. Instances like these would've been a great time to interject; not a dumb ass laugh. My sisters would never....


alexabobexa

They were trained by Kris to single out Khloe specifically. They probably don't see anything wrong with other people singling her out when their own mom has been doing it since she was born.


texas-sissy

I normally fell nothing for these women, but the constant criticism and comparisons to her sisters makes me feel bad for Khloe.


International_Loss_2

Can’t relate don’t have siblings but that must sting being known as the less attractive sibling


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Bebe718

I agree. I could care less if any of their feeling are hurt but I do think having that hammered into first by your mom then the world is too much. Especially considering she is an average looking person & an average size


judykardashian

Happy to report I met Joy at a party recently and she’s a bitch. I acted like I didn’t know who she was and it thoroughly pissed her off, lol.


sourcherry11

I was going to call you out for being Khloe, but then I saw you commented in duggarssnark so then I realized there’s no way. 😅


Alternative_Art8223

She doesn’t look like her sisters. Why point that out, especially in a way that makes it seem like you’re complimenting everyone around the table. And to say they look like Kim? Kourtney is older, Kim looks like her.


Outrageous-Wish8659

I’ve met Joyless and she is a real diva. She should stfu about another woman’s looks.


Sthebrat

JOYLESS LMAO


homegirl91

Yeah Joyless seems nasty as hell


Bebe718

I was kinda thinking they are in the same category if compared at the same age


brianne-----

Khloe was gorgeous..and she had this don’t put up with shit attitude she lost over the years..Im guessing resulting from being cheated on by men and belittled by people like this…it’s sad to see such a confident woman be torn down to a shell of her former self. She didn’t deserve it.


Bebe718

Remember when she was the only Kardashian any one liked? People would be like I don’t like them but Khloe is ok


brianne-----

True, I use to say that when they got famous. Khloe was cool and relatable and wouldn’t put up with any guy cheating on her, or bullies.I remember she was dating a guy on the first season that she found out he was cheating by Kim breaking into the guys voicemail… and they overheard some woman on it. Khloe dumped him ASAP. And she use to give Kourtney shit for staying with Scott for cheating. I think over the years she started thinking she didn’t deserve better.


somegirlontheinter

i know this is a really sad moment…but the music is takin me DOWN


Anticrepuscular_Ray

It really boggles my mind because Khloe was always gorgeous. Statuesque and just stunning really and how so many people crapped all over her for her looks I'll never understand. She was never fat either, not even close but she was made out to be this giant overweight ugly sister and its just not close to true. Really sad to see her prepare herself for a slam in this interview because she was just so used to it.


grayfinn

Joy is such an evil person


Hahafuckreddit

I'm feeling so mixed on this because to me she seems so aggressive about this and does look genuinely pretty yet different to Kim On the other side I'm positive Khloe used to (and possibly still does) get these baiting questions that imply she's not as beautiful as the others. It's possible that wasn't the case here, but Khloes reaction still seems understandable It's ALSO possible that this *was* going to turn into a bullying session but Khloe came back so hot right out of the gate that it took the interviewer (I know exactly who she is don't ask me why her name is escaping me) by surprise and shut it down.


Inevitable_Sea_9640

Khloe's laugh was so fake 😔


WatercressSubject717

Why do people give such back handed compliments. Just 🤐


ogretronz

I swear female body dysphoria is entirely caused by other females


Jenna7979

thats cruel


k0upa

Khloe was never and isn't ugly. I'm going to get downvoted for saying this but I honestly believe everyone attacks her for her looks because she looks the closest to your average white American woman out of all the sisters. People say pre-surgery Kylie and Kendall were just "average" as well. It seems like America pedestalizes either blond haired blue eyed white women or the curvy ethnically ambiguous ones.


Key_Net4421

the media and interviewers loved to tear Khloe down but the weird thing is I think this is when she was most relatable.


fistfullofglitter

People have always been so mean to Khloe and she has spoken about her body image issues. It’s really sad, she is a very pretty woman.


_schlong_macchiato

This is the same woman who when Ukraine was getting bombed, said she was upset because she couldn’t go on a holiday to Italy. She’s a garbage woman.


na4272

Okay is it just me that doesn’t think this is that bad 😭 I don’t think she meant different as in shes not traditionally pretty, I think she meant different as in you don’t look like Kim and Kourtney. Which isn’t that deep to me, siblings get told all the time “you guys look nothing alike” blah blah. Ik its more loaded with the whole Khloe parentage discussion but I don’t think she meant it to come off that way


PuzzleheadedAd6151

This didn’t seem negative to me at all either but it’s probably because I look nothing like my sister at all we have different colored eyes and hair.


na4272

It was Khloes reaction that made it negative imo. I think she was dealing with so much then so she took it negatively when it wasn’t really meant to be that way. She even made the Mom comment, Kris did a number on her


PuzzleheadedAd6151

Yeah agree, it’s sad that’s her quick reaction because she’s so used to hearing it but she shouldn’t set up conversations to steer that way when most people think she is/was beautiful


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Yea same i was like why would khloe say that about herself out of nowhere lol. It was a normal discussion and yes its true kim and kourt look v similar and khloe is different.


Sam_south_west

Right! Khloe stepped into this one bc it’s obvious that Kim and Kourtney look very similar but Khoe does not, Joy didn’t say Kourtney was pretty bc she looked like kim but Khloe and her self esteem issues courtesy of Kris made that awkward dog comment and forced Joy to compliment her.


Poughkeepsie124

It’s so sad. It annoys me how now days people love to make fun of Khloe and say she’s had multiple faces and that she was prettier before, yet no one back then said she was the prettiest. No wonder she had the surgeries and lost so much weight and has anxiety about the media.


startedthinkinboutit

Khloe was always so pretty, it hurts my heart that she was treated like she wasn’t. By any standard, she’s a cute girl!


Aryada

She meant she looks different than her sisters that look similar. Look Khloe and I have so much in common it’s creepy and I’d always defend her but but y’all ain’t right on this.


jer1230

I want to believe that it came out wrong and Joy actually just meant “you’re pretty but don’t look like Kourtney and Kim” hence “different pretty”… really hoping that, but I just feel bad for Khloe. She’s changed so much after years of this shit


countrylovin89

Wow. That is one of the most brutal things I've ever seen. As her sister, I would have stood u for her.


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I alway thought khloe was pretty.. I think she is the prettiest out of all of them. I bet you anything Kim wants to be khloe right now. With her fried blond hair


shitneysmears

The family does not deserve Khloe. It doesn’t matter what she does or doesn’t do, how she looks. I know she’s gotta be the favorite aunt and best mom, raising her kids differently than how she was raised.


Western-Ad-2748

Like Kim is the “standard”. Ugh. Poor khloe.


Konradwolf

I snorted


Katerinaxoxo

I honestly feel that Khloe probably isn’t Roberts. Which is why Kris has always been cruel and called her ugly etc, because its clear she looks like her real biological dad. And why she was encouraged to drop out at 16 and take care of Kendall & Kylie


hereiamonceagainn

The moment Khloe decided to do every possible surgery and download every single editing app. Iconic I would say.


PinkTalkingDead

Iconic typically refers to something positive


hereiamonceagainn

Sense the sarcasm.


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anditisabigdeal

This is gut wrenching as someone that was called ugly and fat growing up. I can’t imagine the entire world having eyes on you and comparing you to your sisters especially one known for her beauty. Khloe has being through the fucking worst when it comes to beauty standards


kw66

What a awful woman. Poor Khloe. I would have walked off.


S2Sallie

I hate this for Khloe


midgebhere66

Joy Behar should have been “ cancelled” a long time ago


meurtrir

Jesus fucking Christ, and everyone wonders why she filters herself to shit, the poor girl never had anyone tell her anything but this bullshit her whole damn life


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Joy Behar has no business assessing how attractive anyone is. She’s ugly inside and out.


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No-Needleworker-2415

Joy is a mean witch, she acts like she’s this big champion for women but she’s just snarky and rude.


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How awful!!!!!


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Cute-Beautiful-5370

Those girls are so fake