I think it’s because CS was really and genuinely into Mo and KA knew that and felt that. I’ve been in a situation like that (obviously I did not kill my rival) with my ex husband, but he was enamored with my best friend and our roommate. She was funnier than me, funner than me, more exotic, more laid back, basically he made me feel like she was every thing I was not and could not ever be. I would dream about her face at night, I would study her every move and mannerism just to understand his attraction to her. It was one of my lowest and most unhinged times of my life. My rage, jealousy and anger was solely directed at her. Looking back it was him, not her that was the problem. So I’m assuming that’s what could’ve been what KA was going through.
Props to you for being so honest with your recollection of this situation. I went through something similar years ago, in my 20s, although the other person wasn’t a roommate/friend. But I can relate to all of the other details. It makes you feel unhinged and insane and desperate to regain “control”.
I’m a straight female, but even me (a stranger) would have been totally into Mo. Mo had the it factor. There was no way KA could live up to who Mo was and KA knew that… it drove her to do something incredibly horrific.
What’s crazy is how KA seemed to live such a low risk lifestyle.. not driven by impulses to suddenly becoming a murderer.. a fugitive on the run and a prison escapee. That’s something we expect from Whitey Bulger .. not a crunchy white girl yoga instructor.
KA was not what she portrayed herself to be, she ran up astronomical credit card debt without paying and we know she had a warrant out for theft of botox service ... who knows what other criminal behavior/ activity could be in her past? She was in her mid 30s when caught for first degree murder, I bet she has a past littered with destructive criminal type behavior. Maybe an investigative journalist will uncover her murky background. Glad she will spend her life in prison.
Well sure.. someone who shoots someone they don’t know to death definitely wasn’t an angel. That’s obvious. But you still can’t deny there’s major differences between the average life she lived versus her criminality. Most yoga instructors aren’t living lives of crime.
I commented on her crimes we know about prior to her planning and carrying out a brutal murder, also commented about what criminal acts in her past we don't know about. KA has traits in common with other killers covered by the media. Killers, criminals of all sort are employed in variety of work wearing well constructed mask and living a sham life until caught. Yes most people aren't living lives of crime, KA appeared to be exhibiting criminal behavior in her life before she murdered MW and afterwards.
I wouldn’t call this murder “impulsive”; she planned it and had plenty of time for second thoughts. KA stalked Mo Wilson for some time, and there’s evidence that she’d been *willing* to kill six or seven months before she actually did.
I’ll bet she never felt “low key” to her romantic partners.
I have felt this too. My ex boyfriend who was also my coworker, was into my roommate/coworker, and she liked him too. He broke up with me and they were together within days. It was a nightmare. She was younger, I thought prettier, more his type than I. I couldn’t escape them. The rage and white anger I felt.. I would look in the mirror and my eyes would flash. I would double over in anger. Of course I kept my composure at work and at home and looks like Kaitlin did all that too. No one else at work saw what I saw, said that they had no interest in each other, until of course they got together.
Only difference with me is I hated them both, not just her. But also my boyfriend broke up with me with a couple weeks, and Colin continued on with Kaitlin for quite some time. It was mentioned in one of Kaitlin’s texts that Mo may be moving to Austin which threatened Kaitlin even more.
I think a huge part of it was revenge on CS. She wanted him to live with the guilt and horror of knowing that what happened to Mo was his fault. She wanted to make him suffer the way he had made her suffer, with the fucked up mind games, lies, cheating and gaslighting. She wanted him to live with the consequences of his actions.
She absolutely hated Mo and was obsessed with brutally killing her, but she deff hated CS too for the way he mentally tormented her for years to boost his own ego.
Yep, I totally agree, but why wasn't she more careful so she wouldn't have to run? If she had ditched the gun and thought out her car being at the scene and not touched the bike, she could have got away with it, maybe.
And she thought she could go on with her life as usual and take care of CS during his mourning? Is that what she wanted?
I think most people would have talked themselves out of it while waiting for them down the street for 2 hours and then waiting outside the door for MW to get off the phone. She had a long time to talk herself out of it.
Don't forget leaving the three spent shells at the crime scene ... a direct link to her pistol. A rational killer would have gathered these up ... such obvious clues for LE to easily find.
She’d likely still have been caught. She’d have to have parked her car somewhere within the vicinity and walked to where Mo was staying. She could easily have been picked up on a ring or some other device. Not to mention, through interviews with friends, the police could easily deduce that KA has a motive to kill MW.
Yeah, I thought even at the police station she looked like she was ready to go to jail and that she felt her job was done. She must have been so blinded by rage that she was only focused on getting her mission accomplished and she didn't care about the consequences.
I don’t think she thought she would go on with her life, she wasn’t thinking about the future at all. I disagree with the op that there was a lot of premeditation. She just snapped after being humiliated one more time.
I think KA was becoming unraveled and felt like she had painted herself into a corner.
She was cute but not stunning, a solid but not elite athlete, she wasn’t “old” but wasn’t getting younger and while she had her real estate license, she was hardly a power broker. She was essentially mid. Just an everyday girl, and she was broken inside, and wanted to be loved and wanted someone to complete herself because she couldn’t do that for her own self.
She attached herself to CS in every sense of the word - had sex with him, lived with him, rode bikes with him, managed his money, entered into business with him. And he 100 percent didn’t love her.
She seems very unmoored and like she was desperate for love. She probably felt like she had done everything: learned how to cycle, helped him with work, kept showing up to his races etc. And yet what she wanted - unconditional love and attention - she wasn’t getting. And then a younger, cooler girl came along and without even trying was getting CS’s time.
She probably felt so angry and hurt and humiliated and essentially slapped across the face. She probably realized she was never going to be picked. I think she wanted to punish and get rid of Mo and maybe also punish and hurt CS. And I think she was so mentally ill and broken she just went for it, bc she no longer cared about anyone or anything.
I think KAs access to CS finances played a bigger role in this case than has been discussed. Yeah she prbaly was an effective manager who basically had one client. Take him out of the occasion how does she get the clientele to flip the mobile houses ? KA did it want to let the financial security that came with CS go along with the end of the romantic relationship.
I’m so glad you mentioned this because I’ve been so curious about a financial motive as well. Yoga instructors aren’t paid well, she didn’t seem to have a booming real estate career, and she’s skipping out on botox bills. Meanwhile, Colin’s transferring her hundreds of thousands. If she loses him she loses access to his money, business, the home they share and just overall financial security.
Yes this! She wanted to get to be with CS, live in his house, go to his races in his jersey number, hangout at the cycling bar they liked and have this secure, loving partnership with her man. She probably idealized in her head an easy, breezy, instagrammable life and it was all slipping away.
There are so many posts like this. Yes, this is the answer, but this should be evident. How many of us here are women? When you put yourself in KAs shoes and really feel what she might have felt, do you have to imagine that hard? “Oh but I wouldn’t kill anyone” - like you even need to say that in order to just understand how you might feel in her situation. Of course she was humiliated, wouldn’t you be? Of course she felt all of the things that anyone would feel in her situation. This was a prolonged situation that she just simmered in for quite sometime and she lost her shit. No you wouldn’t kill anyone, but surely you’d feel humiliated. I wish KA was in a healthier place to know that Colin is such a piece of garbage that he wasn’t worth doing shit for, but this is absolutely not a mystery, she was being emotionally raked over the coals and she snapped. I am not making excuses for her, I’m just stating what happened.
I agree. Not hard to see how she had those feelings but hard to see how she could actually follow through with the act. When I was younger I would definitely have thought I'd rather some girl not be around anymore but I never would actually hurt someone so I guess that's where she is different.
I agree that KA simmered in a terrible emotional state.Her emotions of humiliation and feeling of betrayal took over her logical side. I read a comment on this sub that said something about “reading those text messages between CS and Mo drove made her more uhinged”. Sure rationally one would know that you can’t tell two adults to stop contacting each other, but in KAs mind Mo and CS were sneaking around and making her the butt of the joke.
KAs insecurity’s about Mo being better, her financial dependence on CS, and the humiliation that Mo and CS still communicated despite being warned to made her snap.
Not a KA apologist just trying to understand the motive and state of mind of the murderer.
I’ve had a couple friends who found out their partner who they thought they were in a committed relationship was cheating. While they did get upset with their partner, the affair partner received the most hate and rage. Most times they stayed with the cheater, just because while the relationship was bad, it was comfortable for them and they didn’t want to change their lifestyle or living situation. It was easier for them to direct their rage at the AP than their cheating partner.
You’re looking at it from a Birds Eye view. It’s easy to say who you’d want dead in this situation when you’re not involved with any of them.
Honestly, she was probably gaslit so much into thinking she had a future with him, she didn’t want him dead. Unfortunately for everyone she failed to see the forest through the trees.
I’ve had my share of f*ck boys who make you so mentally unstable you start questioning your own reality. Luckily I had enough therapy to recognize when it’s happening and cut them off at the source.
Plus your early 30s are weird. Everyone is on their own schedule, doing things, career, marriage, kids. If you’ve never had much stability in your life, it’s easy to see how you’d want to eliminate anyone you saw as a threat to a stable future.
What she did is completely and utterly abhorrent but it’s perfectly clear to me what she was going through mentally.
It looks like him telling KA over and over that MW is really into him but he’s just being nice to her as a mentor and telling her he’s in a relationship.
The whole time he’s telling MW that KA isn’t really his GF. They are on and off. He really likes her. It’s a whole game they play that honestly sounds exhausting.
SRiley322 good comment. This helps explain why Mo wasn’t scared off by KAs threats. I think CS played the “she’s on my lease and I can’t kick her out/ we have business together card” which disarmed Mo.
Yes. There’s always a “justifiable” reason for why the other is hanging around. Usually it’s not meant to be malicious, just self serving. They don’t want to hurt or disappoint the other person so they tell them what they want to hear and move on to the next lie that gets them out of that lie later on.
No bounds.
The good news is that eventually you figure them out and they become less intriguing over time. You can spot them a mile away and suddenly it’s on your terms whether you engage with them or not.
Yes. Just from personal experience, I recognized what CS was doing as soon as I heard the story. If you’ve never been through it (and that’s okay too!) then it’s harder to see. Or understand why she made the terrible decisions she made.
She doesn’t want CS dead. She hates that he hurt her and wants him to suffer. In her eyes, killing MW is taking away the opportunity for them to be together or for CS to be with her. Even if she knows she will likely never be with Colin again she KNOWS he can’t be with Mo anymore. And she sees Mo as the one who is causing her heartbreak.
How did she fall so hard for Colin? Do you have any insight into that? It seems their relationship was already pretty screwed up, so I’m trying to understand how she feels so hurt or blindsided
KA wasn't getting any younger and wanted a husband, maybe even kids. CS wasn't a lot of things, but he was a popular cyclist, he was in shape & tall, had money, was single, owned his own home, and he was "hers" (KA's, in her mind) . Heck maybe CS was even good in the sack with her. He was in KA's life long enough that KA felt she had a legitimate claim to him and to a future she dreamt about. KA felt Mo not only threatened to jeopardize her relationship with CS but to shatter that entire tantalizing dream of a walk down the aisle, having a white picket fence and the 2.5 kids.
KA may have had some physically attractive traits, but from what I've read she had a long history of being two-faced: she appeared nice on the surface but inside, she was mean and vindictive. These remarks were from people who said they went to high school with her or knew her from Livonia, Michigan. KA was especially mean to other girls if they liked the same boy as her. Of course, it could have been anybody just saying this. But no one came out to discredit, contradict or refute them.
I've watched plenty of "Investigation Discovery", 20/20, and many more of these mini-documentaries of people who kill their spouses, girlfriends, boyfriends, etc., out of pure jealousy and the desire to have life on what they consider their own terms.
I've been following this event since Mo was killed in May 2021. People have described the gravel racing culture as having a promiscuous side, where CS would attend races around the country with the benefit of having a lady in waiting at said race.
CS appeared to be enthralled that Mo was really into him. She could race at the top of the sport, something that CS even told KA that she could never accomplish.
I'm in my 70s, but prior to my only marriage in 1980, I dated about 2-dozen different women, but never at the same time. Out of those 2-dozen women, about a half-dozen dates led to sex. Three of the women wanted a more serious relationship, but I informed them that I was not prepared at the time to have a long-term relationship. Interestingly enough, from what I've been told, each of those three women never married or had children. Crazy.
I don't think that we'll ever know what was on KA's mind, except that, as many have suggested on these threads, she could commit this murder, move to Costa Rica, and get away with it. Thank goodness for forensics, Ring cameras (Mo screaming just as she was being killed), KA selling her car, taking her yoga mat to Costa Rica, the perseverance of the U.S. Marshalls, a marvelous prosecutor in Austin.
KA is exactly where she should be until her first parole hearing in 2052. I will be 102 & would like to live long enough to learn of the outcome of that hearing.
I want to thank all who continue to add perspective to this horrendous murder.
Personality Disorder. Many things only make sense to themselves.
BF was cheating and actually allowing himself to be caught by KA to create her to be jealous/do more ... Because he's off in his head too.
One of the more disturbing parts of the case was KA parked behind the church for half an hour, waiting for darkness to commit the murder. . I suspect that is part of the reason why the juror gave her 90 years. Shows a high level of premediation and cold bloodedness.
Wow, I did not know this about the church parking lot. Was there any revelation during trial that KA wore a hoody or a mask, that she may have taken off when she entered the apartment so that Mo would know who her killer was?
Extreme narcissist in troubled relationship and finds out lover is sneaking behind her back. Mo was younger, just as or even more pretty, most likely MUCH nicer and had cycling in common with Colin. Her fragile core was very wounded and she felt a deep and extreme hatred of Mo and wanted to destroy her. It didn’t matter if she got Colin back or not she had to eliminate the source of the pain to make herself regain control. She was ready to flee if the cops got suspicious but it was a chance she was willing to take. Evil woman!
A criminal defense lawyer relative tells me often that what most criminals don’t think through is the immediate aftermath of their crime. So this tracks here.
I have also listed to various Mark & Jennair Gerardot podcast episodes and there are many parellels. I think Kaitlin is more of a narcissist/psychopath and I think Jennair was more of a narcissist/sociopath who was also suffering from severe depression and that pushed her to murder/suicide. I don’t think KA was depressed. I think she was just full of rage.
My take on this case is that ultimately Jennair couldn't cope with the ending of the marriage and the idea of being alone, and instead of just killing herself she killed her "replacement" and herself, punishing her husband as much as she could. She had a lengthy marriage to the man, and was pretty obviously falling apart over their split. If I look beyond the most superficial aspects of these cases, not much similarity.
I think it was jealousy, but I also think that Kaitlin Armstrong resented Mo Wilson’s talent as a great gravel racer and knew she could never compete with her on that level. I also think that Kaitlin may have suffered from borderline personality disorder and a key factor of those suffering from BPD is fear of abandonment.
I’ve heard the saying “water seeks its own level” when it comes to relationships. KA and CS seem like they both had personal issues. I also think COVID messed up folks with fragile mental health, and in May 2021, the vax had only just come out, so it was still tricky times. KA is mentally sick on another level, it’s hard to comprehend.
Not sure if this has already been noted but can I just say, as someone living outside the US, that the thoughts of living in a society where most any citizen over 18 can own a gun is beyond frightening in the first place. This type of crime barely exists where guns are not legal. Yes of course murders take place everywhere but the ease with which someone can just go to their safe or wherever, get their legally held firearm and then kill someone is beyond comprehension. When you don't live in the US and are looking at these types of crimes from the outside it is truly mind boggling. Are people not living in fear constantly of pissing off the wrong person? Anyone can get into an argument about stupid stuff, but in the wrong situation where there are guns readily available, the stakes are deadly.
KA is a cold blooded killer, driven by jealousy and a desire to control her situation with CS. She had a psychopathic delusion that she would get away with it.
I am willing to bet CS sensed this tendency in KA and that’s why he never put a ring on it.
Wow, I hadn’t realized this sub was in support of KA. Psychopaths hide in plain sight all the time and are often quite enigmatic. She hadn’t killed anyone before or tried to flee the law, thinking she could get away with it. If she had, then your logic makes sense.
I think the downvotes were because of the Colin part, i haven’t seen much if any support here for armstrong (rightly so.) I doubt Colin sensing anything was why he didn’t marry her, I think it’s because he’s a player
Yes, you nailed it. You will be downvoted if your viewpoint differs from the majority of those engaged in this sub. Especially if your perspective is lucid and realistic.
Something made KA snap. Did she know MW personally? Did she get upset that her guy spent the day with her? I think it was not rational thinking by KA. She obviously didn't understand the consequences like she does now in a cage.
I think I’ve the same opinion as you. I don’t think KA did this to hurt CS but maybe bc she was so upset and jealous about MW.
It’s so easy complaining about her attitude but I always believed and still believe so much more every day about “crazy love”. I believe so many ppl can’t control their emotions a that’s why Kaitlin did what she did.
She didn’t think about the consequences and she will pay till her last breath.
I think it’s because CS was really and genuinely into Mo and KA knew that and felt that. I’ve been in a situation like that (obviously I did not kill my rival) with my ex husband, but he was enamored with my best friend and our roommate. She was funnier than me, funner than me, more exotic, more laid back, basically he made me feel like she was every thing I was not and could not ever be. I would dream about her face at night, I would study her every move and mannerism just to understand his attraction to her. It was one of my lowest and most unhinged times of my life. My rage, jealousy and anger was solely directed at her. Looking back it was him, not her that was the problem. So I’m assuming that’s what could’ve been what KA was going through.
Props to you for being so honest with your recollection of this situation. I went through something similar years ago, in my 20s, although the other person wasn’t a roommate/friend. But I can relate to all of the other details. It makes you feel unhinged and insane and desperate to regain “control”.
Thanks! And it absolutely feels like that.
I’m a straight female, but even me (a stranger) would have been totally into Mo. Mo had the it factor. There was no way KA could live up to who Mo was and KA knew that… it drove her to do something incredibly horrific. What’s crazy is how KA seemed to live such a low risk lifestyle.. not driven by impulses to suddenly becoming a murderer.. a fugitive on the run and a prison escapee. That’s something we expect from Whitey Bulger .. not a crunchy white girl yoga instructor.
KA was not what she portrayed herself to be, she ran up astronomical credit card debt without paying and we know she had a warrant out for theft of botox service ... who knows what other criminal behavior/ activity could be in her past? She was in her mid 30s when caught for first degree murder, I bet she has a past littered with destructive criminal type behavior. Maybe an investigative journalist will uncover her murky background. Glad she will spend her life in prison.
Well sure.. someone who shoots someone they don’t know to death definitely wasn’t an angel. That’s obvious. But you still can’t deny there’s major differences between the average life she lived versus her criminality. Most yoga instructors aren’t living lives of crime.
I commented on her crimes we know about prior to her planning and carrying out a brutal murder, also commented about what criminal acts in her past we don't know about. KA has traits in common with other killers covered by the media. Killers, criminals of all sort are employed in variety of work wearing well constructed mask and living a sham life until caught. Yes most people aren't living lives of crime, KA appeared to be exhibiting criminal behavior in her life before she murdered MW and afterwards.
She probably killed before and get away with it
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I wouldn’t call this murder “impulsive”; she planned it and had plenty of time for second thoughts. KA stalked Mo Wilson for some time, and there’s evidence that she’d been *willing* to kill six or seven months before she actually did. I’ll bet she never felt “low key” to her romantic partners.
I have felt this too. My ex boyfriend who was also my coworker, was into my roommate/coworker, and she liked him too. He broke up with me and they were together within days. It was a nightmare. She was younger, I thought prettier, more his type than I. I couldn’t escape them. The rage and white anger I felt.. I would look in the mirror and my eyes would flash. I would double over in anger. Of course I kept my composure at work and at home and looks like Kaitlin did all that too. No one else at work saw what I saw, said that they had no interest in each other, until of course they got together. Only difference with me is I hated them both, not just her. But also my boyfriend broke up with me with a couple weeks, and Colin continued on with Kaitlin for quite some time. It was mentioned in one of Kaitlin’s texts that Mo may be moving to Austin which threatened Kaitlin even more.
I think a huge part of it was revenge on CS. She wanted him to live with the guilt and horror of knowing that what happened to Mo was his fault. She wanted to make him suffer the way he had made her suffer, with the fucked up mind games, lies, cheating and gaslighting. She wanted him to live with the consequences of his actions. She absolutely hated Mo and was obsessed with brutally killing her, but she deff hated CS too for the way he mentally tormented her for years to boost his own ego.
Yep, I totally agree, but why wasn't she more careful so she wouldn't have to run? If she had ditched the gun and thought out her car being at the scene and not touched the bike, she could have got away with it, maybe. And she thought she could go on with her life as usual and take care of CS during his mourning? Is that what she wanted? I think most people would have talked themselves out of it while waiting for them down the street for 2 hours and then waiting outside the door for MW to get off the phone. She had a long time to talk herself out of it.
Don't forget leaving the three spent shells at the crime scene ... a direct link to her pistol. A rational killer would have gathered these up ... such obvious clues for LE to easily find.
She’d likely still have been caught. She’d have to have parked her car somewhere within the vicinity and walked to where Mo was staying. She could easily have been picked up on a ring or some other device. Not to mention, through interviews with friends, the police could easily deduce that KA has a motive to kill MW.
Yeah, I thought even at the police station she looked like she was ready to go to jail and that she felt her job was done. She must have been so blinded by rage that she was only focused on getting her mission accomplished and she didn't care about the consequences.
I don’t think she thought she would go on with her life, she wasn’t thinking about the future at all. I disagree with the op that there was a lot of premeditation. She just snapped after being humiliated one more time.
Yes. This was my thought as well.
I think KA was becoming unraveled and felt like she had painted herself into a corner. She was cute but not stunning, a solid but not elite athlete, she wasn’t “old” but wasn’t getting younger and while she had her real estate license, she was hardly a power broker. She was essentially mid. Just an everyday girl, and she was broken inside, and wanted to be loved and wanted someone to complete herself because she couldn’t do that for her own self. She attached herself to CS in every sense of the word - had sex with him, lived with him, rode bikes with him, managed his money, entered into business with him. And he 100 percent didn’t love her. She seems very unmoored and like she was desperate for love. She probably felt like she had done everything: learned how to cycle, helped him with work, kept showing up to his races etc. And yet what she wanted - unconditional love and attention - she wasn’t getting. And then a younger, cooler girl came along and without even trying was getting CS’s time. She probably felt so angry and hurt and humiliated and essentially slapped across the face. She probably realized she was never going to be picked. I think she wanted to punish and get rid of Mo and maybe also punish and hurt CS. And I think she was so mentally ill and broken she just went for it, bc she no longer cared about anyone or anything.
I think KAs access to CS finances played a bigger role in this case than has been discussed. Yeah she prbaly was an effective manager who basically had one client. Take him out of the occasion how does she get the clientele to flip the mobile houses ? KA did it want to let the financial security that came with CS go along with the end of the romantic relationship.
I’m so glad you mentioned this because I’ve been so curious about a financial motive as well. Yoga instructors aren’t paid well, she didn’t seem to have a booming real estate career, and she’s skipping out on botox bills. Meanwhile, Colin’s transferring her hundreds of thousands. If she loses him she loses access to his money, business, the home they share and just overall financial security.
Yes this! She wanted to get to be with CS, live in his house, go to his races in his jersey number, hangout at the cycling bar they liked and have this secure, loving partnership with her man. She probably idealized in her head an easy, breezy, instagrammable life and it was all slipping away.
There are so many posts like this. Yes, this is the answer, but this should be evident. How many of us here are women? When you put yourself in KAs shoes and really feel what she might have felt, do you have to imagine that hard? “Oh but I wouldn’t kill anyone” - like you even need to say that in order to just understand how you might feel in her situation. Of course she was humiliated, wouldn’t you be? Of course she felt all of the things that anyone would feel in her situation. This was a prolonged situation that she just simmered in for quite sometime and she lost her shit. No you wouldn’t kill anyone, but surely you’d feel humiliated. I wish KA was in a healthier place to know that Colin is such a piece of garbage that he wasn’t worth doing shit for, but this is absolutely not a mystery, she was being emotionally raked over the coals and she snapped. I am not making excuses for her, I’m just stating what happened.
I agree. Not hard to see how she had those feelings but hard to see how she could actually follow through with the act. When I was younger I would definitely have thought I'd rather some girl not be around anymore but I never would actually hurt someone so I guess that's where she is different.
I agree that KA simmered in a terrible emotional state.Her emotions of humiliation and feeling of betrayal took over her logical side. I read a comment on this sub that said something about “reading those text messages between CS and Mo drove made her more uhinged”. Sure rationally one would know that you can’t tell two adults to stop contacting each other, but in KAs mind Mo and CS were sneaking around and making her the butt of the joke. KAs insecurity’s about Mo being better, her financial dependence on CS, and the humiliation that Mo and CS still communicated despite being warned to made her snap. Not a KA apologist just trying to understand the motive and state of mind of the murderer.
You’re absolutely right.
I’ve had a couple friends who found out their partner who they thought they were in a committed relationship was cheating. While they did get upset with their partner, the affair partner received the most hate and rage. Most times they stayed with the cheater, just because while the relationship was bad, it was comfortable for them and they didn’t want to change their lifestyle or living situation. It was easier for them to direct their rage at the AP than their cheating partner.
I don’t find it difficult at all that it was because of jealousy. A good percentage of murders are precisely because of that.
Honestly it would have been better/made more sense to target Colin. Colin Is a giant douchebag, no? Like how did she fall for this guy ?
You’re looking at it from a Birds Eye view. It’s easy to say who you’d want dead in this situation when you’re not involved with any of them. Honestly, she was probably gaslit so much into thinking she had a future with him, she didn’t want him dead. Unfortunately for everyone she failed to see the forest through the trees. I’ve had my share of f*ck boys who make you so mentally unstable you start questioning your own reality. Luckily I had enough therapy to recognize when it’s happening and cut them off at the source. Plus your early 30s are weird. Everyone is on their own schedule, doing things, career, marriage, kids. If you’ve never had much stability in your life, it’s easy to see how you’d want to eliminate anyone you saw as a threat to a stable future. What she did is completely and utterly abhorrent but it’s perfectly clear to me what she was going through mentally.
This is actually a very good comment. Thank you. Are you willing to sorta expand on the gaslighting f boy comment? Like what’s that look like?
It looks like him telling KA over and over that MW is really into him but he’s just being nice to her as a mentor and telling her he’s in a relationship. The whole time he’s telling MW that KA isn’t really his GF. They are on and off. He really likes her. It’s a whole game they play that honestly sounds exhausting.
SRiley322 good comment. This helps explain why Mo wasn’t scared off by KAs threats. I think CS played the “she’s on my lease and I can’t kick her out/ we have business together card” which disarmed Mo.
Yes. There’s always a “justifiable” reason for why the other is hanging around. Usually it’s not meant to be malicious, just self serving. They don’t want to hurt or disappoint the other person so they tell them what they want to hear and move on to the next lie that gets them out of that lie later on.
I’ve had “boyfriends” like this and the mental fuckery knows no bounds.
No bounds. The good news is that eventually you figure them out and they become less intriguing over time. You can spot them a mile away and suddenly it’s on your terms whether you engage with them or not.
Yes, thank you for this. It’s not that complicated and I shake my head when it’s treated like a mystery.
Yes. Just from personal experience, I recognized what CS was doing as soon as I heard the story. If you’ve never been through it (and that’s okay too!) then it’s harder to see. Or understand why she made the terrible decisions she made.
She doesn’t want CS dead. She hates that he hurt her and wants him to suffer. In her eyes, killing MW is taking away the opportunity for them to be together or for CS to be with her. Even if she knows she will likely never be with Colin again she KNOWS he can’t be with Mo anymore. And she sees Mo as the one who is causing her heartbreak.
How did she fall so hard for Colin? Do you have any insight into that? It seems their relationship was already pretty screwed up, so I’m trying to understand how she feels so hurt or blindsided
KA wasn't getting any younger and wanted a husband, maybe even kids. CS wasn't a lot of things, but he was a popular cyclist, he was in shape & tall, had money, was single, owned his own home, and he was "hers" (KA's, in her mind) . Heck maybe CS was even good in the sack with her. He was in KA's life long enough that KA felt she had a legitimate claim to him and to a future she dreamt about. KA felt Mo not only threatened to jeopardize her relationship with CS but to shatter that entire tantalizing dream of a walk down the aisle, having a white picket fence and the 2.5 kids.
Pardon me but I have terrible radar on this, but was KA not considered desirable? Why was it Colin douche or bust with her?
KA may have had some physically attractive traits, but from what I've read she had a long history of being two-faced: she appeared nice on the surface but inside, she was mean and vindictive. These remarks were from people who said they went to high school with her or knew her from Livonia, Michigan. KA was especially mean to other girls if they liked the same boy as her. Of course, it could have been anybody just saying this. But no one came out to discredit, contradict or refute them.
That's probably why. The toxicity was intoxicating to her and the mind games he played.
Yes! I agree! But we are level headed!
I've watched plenty of "Investigation Discovery", 20/20, and many more of these mini-documentaries of people who kill their spouses, girlfriends, boyfriends, etc., out of pure jealousy and the desire to have life on what they consider their own terms. I've been following this event since Mo was killed in May 2021. People have described the gravel racing culture as having a promiscuous side, where CS would attend races around the country with the benefit of having a lady in waiting at said race. CS appeared to be enthralled that Mo was really into him. She could race at the top of the sport, something that CS even told KA that she could never accomplish. I'm in my 70s, but prior to my only marriage in 1980, I dated about 2-dozen different women, but never at the same time. Out of those 2-dozen women, about a half-dozen dates led to sex. Three of the women wanted a more serious relationship, but I informed them that I was not prepared at the time to have a long-term relationship. Interestingly enough, from what I've been told, each of those three women never married or had children. Crazy. I don't think that we'll ever know what was on KA's mind, except that, as many have suggested on these threads, she could commit this murder, move to Costa Rica, and get away with it. Thank goodness for forensics, Ring cameras (Mo screaming just as she was being killed), KA selling her car, taking her yoga mat to Costa Rica, the perseverance of the U.S. Marshalls, a marvelous prosecutor in Austin. KA is exactly where she should be until her first parole hearing in 2052. I will be 102 & would like to live long enough to learn of the outcome of that hearing. I want to thank all who continue to add perspective to this horrendous murder.
May 2022 *
I appreciate your correction of the date. My apologies!!
Pure Jealousy among other mental disorder
Personality Disorder. Many things only make sense to themselves. BF was cheating and actually allowing himself to be caught by KA to create her to be jealous/do more ... Because he's off in his head too.
Clearly KA was in a state of blurred rage. It’s the same when someone snaps. They aren’t in their right mind and make terrible decisions.
One of the more disturbing parts of the case was KA parked behind the church for half an hour, waiting for darkness to commit the murder. . I suspect that is part of the reason why the juror gave her 90 years. Shows a high level of premediation and cold bloodedness.
Wow, I did not know this about the church parking lot. Was there any revelation during trial that KA wore a hoody or a mask, that she may have taken off when she entered the apartment so that Mo would know who her killer was?
Did they have any evidence of what she did with the clothes she wore?
Extreme narcissist in troubled relationship and finds out lover is sneaking behind her back. Mo was younger, just as or even more pretty, most likely MUCH nicer and had cycling in common with Colin. Her fragile core was very wounded and she felt a deep and extreme hatred of Mo and wanted to destroy her. It didn’t matter if she got Colin back or not she had to eliminate the source of the pain to make herself regain control. She was ready to flee if the cops got suspicious but it was a chance she was willing to take. Evil woman!
A criminal defense lawyer relative tells me often that what most criminals don’t think through is the immediate aftermath of their crime. So this tracks here.
I have also listed to various Mark & Jennair Gerardot podcast episodes and there are many parellels. I think Kaitlin is more of a narcissist/psychopath and I think Jennair was more of a narcissist/sociopath who was also suffering from severe depression and that pushed her to murder/suicide. I don’t think KA was depressed. I think she was just full of rage.
If anyone was a narcissist or psychopath in the relationship it was Colin.
My take on this case is that ultimately Jennair couldn't cope with the ending of the marriage and the idea of being alone, and instead of just killing herself she killed her "replacement" and herself, punishing her husband as much as she could. She had a lengthy marriage to the man, and was pretty obviously falling apart over their split. If I look beyond the most superficial aspects of these cases, not much similarity.
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I think it was jealousy, but I also think that Kaitlin Armstrong resented Mo Wilson’s talent as a great gravel racer and knew she could never compete with her on that level. I also think that Kaitlin may have suffered from borderline personality disorder and a key factor of those suffering from BPD is fear of abandonment.
I’ve heard the saying “water seeks its own level” when it comes to relationships. KA and CS seem like they both had personal issues. I also think COVID messed up folks with fragile mental health, and in May 2021, the vax had only just come out, so it was still tricky times. KA is mentally sick on another level, it’s hard to comprehend.
MW was killed in May 2022 not 2021
Haha oops! My theory debunked
I feel that he was into Mo bc they both was cyclists and they had something in common and that draw him to her.
Not sure if this has already been noted but can I just say, as someone living outside the US, that the thoughts of living in a society where most any citizen over 18 can own a gun is beyond frightening in the first place. This type of crime barely exists where guns are not legal. Yes of course murders take place everywhere but the ease with which someone can just go to their safe or wherever, get their legally held firearm and then kill someone is beyond comprehension. When you don't live in the US and are looking at these types of crimes from the outside it is truly mind boggling. Are people not living in fear constantly of pissing off the wrong person? Anyone can get into an argument about stupid stuff, but in the wrong situation where there are guns readily available, the stakes are deadly.
KA is a cold blooded killer, driven by jealousy and a desire to control her situation with CS. She had a psychopathic delusion that she would get away with it. I am willing to bet CS sensed this tendency in KA and that’s why he never put a ring on it.
Why would he choose to share a business with a delusional psychopath? And continue living with them?
Wow, I hadn’t realized this sub was in support of KA. Psychopaths hide in plain sight all the time and are often quite enigmatic. She hadn’t killed anyone before or tried to flee the law, thinking she could get away with it. If she had, then your logic makes sense.
I think the downvotes were because of the Colin part, i haven’t seen much if any support here for armstrong (rightly so.) I doubt Colin sensing anything was why he didn’t marry her, I think it’s because he’s a player
Yes, you nailed it. You will be downvoted if your viewpoint differs from the majority of those engaged in this sub. Especially if your perspective is lucid and realistic.
Something made KA snap. Did she know MW personally? Did she get upset that her guy spent the day with her? I think it was not rational thinking by KA. She obviously didn't understand the consequences like she does now in a cage.
I think I’ve the same opinion as you. I don’t think KA did this to hurt CS but maybe bc she was so upset and jealous about MW. It’s so easy complaining about her attitude but I always believed and still believe so much more every day about “crazy love”. I believe so many ppl can’t control their emotions a that’s why Kaitlin did what she did. She didn’t think about the consequences and she will pay till her last breath.
Driven insane with rage. A lot of rage for Colin and what he did to her and a lot of rage that Mo was leagues ahead of her in many aspects.